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British law has the magnificent-sounding charge of "Going equipping to steal."

From http://cps.gov.uk/legal/section8/chapter_a.html


Is it true that in britain a guy coming into your house is not doing anything illegal unless he broke something to get in? And even if he is holding things that are yours, nothing is illegal until he tries to leave with them?


I am not a lawyer, but it seems from the source I cited that so long as there is evidence of intent (say, he's unplugged your computer) he could be charged with burglary even  though nothing has left the property, since burglary is entry with intent to steal. It doesn't have to be forced entry -even trying to hooksomething through an open window could be burglary.

If he's actually in your house without your consent, but he's just 'admiring.'

Being found on enclosed premises - section 4 Vagrancy Act 1824 (Archbold 31-123) is a summary only offence and carries a maximum sentence of 3 months imprisonment and/or a level 3 fine. This charge will be appropriate for an accused against whom there is insufficient evidence of burglary or attempt burglary, but who is found within an enclosed area for an unlawful purpose.

I hope that helps.

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On the other hand there is something to be said for not-quite-legitimate use of tools to reverse engineer device communications (to create drivers for linux, make fixes or improvements the manufacturer should have done, test the security) - but i think in all those cases the difference would be you use the tools against systems you own or have legitimate use (contracted by work to do it etc)

It's a tricky act to balance

British law has the magnificent-sounding charge of "Going equipping to steal."

From http://cps.gov.uk/legal/section8/chapter_a.html

Attempts

The appropriation may be complete even if the criminal's purpose is not fulfilled e.g. thief puts shopping into his bag dishonestly intending not to pay, but is caught before leaving the shop. Charge theft, not attempt theft.

The Prosecution does not have to prove that there is in existence property capable of being stolen. For example:
The would-be pickpocket who put a hand into someone else's empty pocket searching for something to steal will be guilty of attempted an attempt theft. In this example, the charge should be drafted as an attempt to steal property belonging to the victim.

If you cannot charge attempt because there is no act which is more than merely preparatory, consider section 25 Theft Act - going equipped to steal, cheat or burgle (Archbold, 21-324)

Thanks, Google!

It seems this law has similar intent: evidence is needed of preparation to commit an offence.


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hierarchical organization for aliases is an interesting idea jenny.. i was thinking of writing a kind of hierarchical notetaking and clip management plugin, it might be usable for the kind of thing you are suggesting..

Yes, even a simple circular queue from which an alias could take its arguments (my programming background is mainly Forth).

A general point for all plugin writers - if you are making something that searches for a window, process, printer or whatever, please leave a way of allowing someone else to write a command-line +alias that can do something you didn't anticipate with whatever is chosen.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Trouble saving aliases
« on: June 27, 2007, 01:59 PM »
I think my problem was that I installed it from the admin account. This shuuld work all right for programs that are designed for multiple users, but it causes some surprising errors. Safari crashes every time I try to save a bookmark, fex, and UltraExplorer throws up error messages but remains stable.

The workaround seems to be to uninstall completely, delete all the folders, set the limited account temporarily to admin, reinstall it there, and then set the account back to limited.  :-[


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