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General Software Discussion / Re: Reliable web page capture...
« on: July 12, 2008, 12:35 PM »
Credit where it's due...

Kinook has just announced v3.5a of Ultra Recall. Fixes include "improved capturing of styles and formatting when storing web pages".  And they're as good as their word (repeat of test in first post):

UR-500x475.png  (Ultra Recall v3.5)   UR 3p5a-500x475.png  (Ultra Recall v3.5a)

This is why it's great to support the smaller software developers. They're far more likely to respond to requests for improvements. I mentioned this thread in the Kinook forums. The Kinook team obviously looked at the thread because they mentioned that v3.5a would solve the problems encountered on the page used in the test.

Ultra Recall version history: http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3696

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General Software Discussion / Re: Reliable web page capture...
« on: July 12, 2008, 12:08 PM »
I would imagine that it's no small task to go out and grab all the related bits and pieces that determine how a page is rendered.

Perhaps. Yet Scrapbook does it perfectly, time after time. As I said above, WebResearch Pro (a commercial program) chooses to use the Scrapbook engine to save web pages, because it's so reliable. Presumably there's nothing to stop Ultra Recall doing the same thing.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Reliable web page capture...
« on: July 12, 2008, 10:33 AM »
I keep finding more! Love the hunt when something is found.
cmpm -- glad you're enjoying the thread. However programs such as Webshot, Fireshot and Screenshot Capture are very different from the ones I discussed in the first thread.

Webshot, Fireshot etc just take images of the pages -- screen grabs. They don't actually copy the page contents (i.e. they don't make a copy of the text, images, css files etc from the web server).

Programs such as Local Website Archive and WebResearch Pro actually make full copies of the page content -- the page content is copied on to your hard drive. This is much more useful. You can cut and paste the content, print it properly, edit it and index it (although one or two programs now use OCR to index screen grabs).

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General Software Discussion / Re: Reliable web page capture...
« on: July 11, 2008, 07:03 PM »
Zotero is certainly interesting. However, although I am a dedicated Firefox user, I am trying to make sure that my long-term home for web page clippings is independent of any browser.

Also with Zotero/Scrapbook etc, it's difficult to mix and match other types of data if you're putting together a research project. That's where programs such as Ultra Recall show their strength.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Reliable web page capture...
« on: July 11, 2008, 01:22 PM »
Thanks for your response, cmpm, but that's not quite what I'm after. Fireshot is a screen capture add-on.

I'm perfectly happy with Scrapbook (or Local Website Archive) as a reliable web page capture program. What I want is for one of the heavyweight information managers (named in my first post) to improve their programs and start providing bullet-proof web page capture (which they should be doing already).

What sparked this post was a thread in the Kinook forums where I and others raised this issue about Ultra Recall:
http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=13653.

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