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General Software Discussion / Re: Stop Windows from calling home
« on: January 04, 2010, 06:25 PM »
ever considered what can happen on a LAN or WLAN if one computer gets infected and there isn't a software firewall running on the individual hosts?
A LAN or a WLAN don't actually send data between the clients without requesting them. Infected clients in my network don't make my Windows more insecure. Still talking about nonsense?

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General Software Discussion / Re: Stop Windows from calling home
« on: January 04, 2010, 05:59 PM »
The Windows Firewall is a firewall
Wrong, because:

A firewall's main purpose is preventing access to the computer, not preventing the computer from reaching out
You can not protect a machine from unauthorized access when running a prevention system on it!

+------------------+
| teh internetz    |
+---------+--------+
          |
   +------+--------+
   | PROTECTION    |
   +----+----------+
        |
  +-----+------------+
  | The machine that |
  | shall be protec- |
  | ted from OUTSIDE |
  +------------------+

Now do this with a "software firewall". Good luck.

but iirc a limited user account on XP can't modify firewall rules, and on Vista/Win7 you get an UAC prompt?
People who use limited accounts and/or the UAC prompt will, like, never have serious system failures caused by malware. They just don't need any extra protection anyway.

Oh, I almost forgot: you've already spouted this nonsen.
I was right.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Stop Windows from calling home
« on: January 04, 2010, 05:36 PM »
Whether or not it can be bypassed, as can ANY firewall or software is not a valid point when determining its usefulness.
Of course it is. Security software that can be bypassed simply doesn't protect you. Period.

If you need at least one reason why, it HELPS prevent problems.
How?

and have found that the Windows firewall, even though it started simple, added an easy to use, unobtrusive layer of protection and sense of security.
Placebo effect?

From what I have seen above, you have given us nothing but the usual "I hate Windows/Microsoft" diatribe, which always comes with no hard evidence, just empty statements on how useless or horrible MS and it's software is.
I am a proud Windows user. You won't get me this way.

(BTW: Every firewall software has, as all other software products, potential holes itself, so it may even make you even more insecure.)

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General Software Discussion / Re: Stop Windows from calling home
« on: January 04, 2010, 05:32 PM »
Windows firewall routinely prompts me when a new program attempts to establish a connection.
If this prompt is not clicked away automatically (or the malware even installs a rule there), you'll still have to consider that explorer.exe is not explorer.exe, right?
Still, the problem is the user here. You can't compensate that with a software.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Stop Windows from calling home
« on: January 04, 2010, 05:19 PM »
2. It is not that hard to write a script which automatically clicks "Allow".

And this can be done with just about ANY firewall application...
You see?

if you install something bad, then chances are your firewall is the last thing you need to worry about.
Indeed. So again: What is your reason to call the Windows Firewall "useful"? For what purpose?

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