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General Software Discussion / Re: Outsourcing web design
« on: April 28, 2007, 05:40 PM »
I haven't tried it, but I look upon it like I do with food. Yes, you can get your food dirt cheap and fast in your local supermarket or fast-food chain. While this is enough most of the time, sometimes you'd love nothing more than a exquisite meal perpared by a really good chef. A meal where everything just fits together perfectly, leaving a lasting impression :)

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General Software Discussion / Re: Ubuntu Linux vs. Windows Vista
« on: April 28, 2007, 12:14 PM »
As long as your application doesn't use any GPL'd code, there is absolutely nothing illegal releasing it as commercial software on whatever platform you choose (and I would think that Zend, the guys that actually made the core for PHP, would know a whole lot more about potential licensing issues than you or I do). You argue that by being ready for prime time, the OS has to be ready for absolutely everyone. Well guess what, neither Windows nor OSX is ready for absolutely everyone so by your standards there is no OS in existense today that is [ready for prime time].
If you instead argued that Windows is the best fit for more people that Linux currently is then yes, I would agree. If it was the perfect fit for everyone however, there would be no such thing as Linux, BSD, Mac OS etc.

EDIT: Just to add a few more examples on non-GPL software on Linux:

 - Adobe Flash Player/Plugin
 - PHP (Open Source yes, but not released under a GPL license)
 - Sun Java (they recently GPL'd it, but for years in was commercial software)
 - Apache (again, open source but not GPL)

You will have absolutely no luck trying to convince me that those are illegal just because they aren't released under a GPL license.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Ubuntu Linux vs. Windows Vista
« on: April 28, 2007, 11:06 AM »
Claiming that Linux is not ready for prime time in general is insanity, because it is all a matter of how you use your computer. It's not ready for everyone sure, but for many others it really is and have been for some time. Oh and regarding your claims that the GPL somehow prevents developers from creating commercial software for the platform, well my Linux version of Zend Studio would seem to indicate otherwise.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Ubuntu Linux vs. Windows Vista
« on: April 27, 2007, 07:26 AM »
Finally, a 64-bit version - umm, there's been 64-bit XP and Win2003 for quite a while? (and previous windows as well, although not x86 64bit :))

True, but the problem is that you have not been able to actually purchase it in stores. At least with XP, you had to contact Microsoft to get hold of a copy if it wasn't bundled as a OEM copy with your PC.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Ubuntu Linux vs. Windows Vista
« on: April 27, 2007, 06:14 AM »
The package management in any Debian-based distro is far superior to both Windows and other operating systems

How can it be superior if it doesn't even exist in windows? ;)
I'm not sure if apt is that much better than Gentoo's portage or fedora's yum or freeBSD's pkg_add, etc,.. but it sure is better than nothing at all! :)



Hehe, fair enough ;) Portage is very good as well as you said, but I just don't think it's reasonable to expect your average user to have the patience to compile all his/her programs. I was just about ready to throw out the PC last time I tried compiling the Mozilla package as it just went on and on...and on. Other than that, it's excellent. In fact, everyone should probably install Gentoo at least once from scratch if they want to get to know more about how GNU Linux really works.

I wouldn't say that Yum is on the same level as apt though, as in my experience is just doesn't handle dependencies as well as apt. Unfortunately, that have been my experience with all other RPM based distros as well, which is why I now mainly stick with Debian-based ones.

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