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General Software Discussion / Re: General brainstorming for Note-taking software
« on: June 13, 2006, 11:46 PM »
    > If you don't have the time to really document the app, perhaps you could just be a little more judicious in your default settings. Turn off as much of the "gee-whiz" as possible by default. Let your users get used to the basic features. Then, IF THEY WANT TO, they can track down and enable the more "out-there" kind of stuff.

       I already release new update 3.18....So, I've added options to disable what you do not like..... see Tools->Options->Notifications->... and see Tools->Options->General->Use Mouse Gesture On Item Saving....
       Now I have some spare time and I will use it to write the proper manual.... ;)

    > BTW - I still can't quite figure out how or why you'd "execute" an item. :-[

       May be it's not obvious but you can store your URL bookmarks here and effectively use them....  Set Link type for those items and they are ready to be used as bookmarks for quick launching.....    Just select the items you want to browse in outline or in the Navigator (they are grouped by context there).... and press F9 to launch them....

    >And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add an option to disable those balloon tips!  :D

       Already done! :O)

       Vadim



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    -Jimdoria (June 13, 2006, 04:10 PM)

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    General Software Discussion / Re: General brainstorming for Note-taking software
    « on: June 13, 2006, 09:52 PM »
    Vadim, I can see you have a lot of creativity and good ideas. Tao Notes shows a lot of promise. But I fear you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater in your app's UI design. We're all used to certain conventions in the UI of an application. It's OK to break those expectations once in a while, if there's a definite benefit. But Tao Notes breaks so many of them, and in such unexpected ways, that it becomes inscrutable. Yes, it's faster to mouse over a part of the screen to close a window rather than clicking a small X box or a button, but it's also easier to do this accidentally and interrupt your workflow. And the first few times it happens, the user gets hit with a "what just happened?" experience where it looks like the data they were working on just vanished.

    Haha!  I know exactly what you're talking about.  That one little strip on the side of the dialog where if the mouse hovers over, the dialog automatically closes.  That's exactly the reaction I had the first couple of times.  I'm like "what the heck did I just do?!"  Too funny.
    -superboyac (June 13, 2006, 04:33 PM)

    Actually there is option to turn this mouse gesture off.... but because it is not documented... it's really hard to figure out how to use it :O)   Tools->Options->General->Use Mouse Gesture On Item Saving

    Vadim

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    General Software Discussion / Re: General brainstorming for Note-taking software
    « on: June 13, 2006, 09:49 PM »
    > 1. You can't get rid of the standard databases "todos" and "clips" or even rename them. The program keeps rebuilding them. There are just some weird gaps in file handling in general - creating & managing tabs is a bit difficult and inconsistent.

    Keeping todos and clips notebooks is a plot, indeed.... Todos is used to be opened as first notebook always... may be it was bad idea... do not know..... clips are used as "internal clipboard" for items copy-from-one-notebook and paste-into-another notebook.... it is not conventient way I know... I will redone this....

    > 2. The balloon tips! Please make them stop! "I have saved my file again!" "An hour has gone by!" It's like having a 3-year-old hyped up on cola and candy bars living in my system tray. Looked and looked for an option to configure or just disable these, but no such luck.

     I will add option for that :O)

    > 3. In the list view, you can change some attributes directly by clicking on them (priority, flag, progress, label) but others just bring you to the editing form. For example, click on "context" and you're suddenly in the editing form - but you're not on the right tab to set the context! So just by looking at what comes up, you can't really see where the information you requested/wanted to enter is supposed to go.

    That's my development incompleteness in implementing proper attributes editors for those attributes.... thank you that you pointed on them.... I will improve this soon...

    > If you don't have the time to really document the app, perhaps you could just be a little more judicious in your default settings. Turn off as much of the "gee-whiz" as possible by default. Let your users get used to the basic features. Then, IF THEY WANT TO, they can track down and enable the more "out-there" kind of stuff.

        OK. Right now I am writing manual + I will add more options + will disable advanced features by default...

    > BTW - I still can't quite figure out how or why you'd "execute" an item. embarassed

       If item has type LINK and URL attribute is real URL of file path then you can "EXECUTE" it... i.e. LAUNCH browser....

       If item has type EMAIL and URL attribute is real email address then you can "EXECUTE" it... i.e. LAUNCH email client....

    > And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add an option to disable those balloon tips!  cheesy

       no problem with this  :O) Today I will do that :O)

       Vadim

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    General Software Discussion / Re: General brainstorming for Note-taking software
    « on: June 03, 2006, 02:57 AM »
    >Vadim - I absolutely disagree about the web capture stuff. 

    Here I do not understand completely with what you absolutely disagree?
    If you wish to capture the whole page…. It’s your decision….. you know the minuses, you know the pluses….

    I said only that in MOST of cases it enough to save only text (NOT ALL THE CASES)…..

    The text is UNIVERSAL and MORE COMPACT way to translate information….. even without pictures it’s describes perfectly the KNOWLEDGE….  Moreover HTML page is polluted with advertisement and Flash video now more and more…. Plus non-proper formatting could be applied sometimes……

    I can compare this to recording TV show with all advertisement it has….. it’s your right to record all the show without the pauses…. But actually it’s information noise….

    >I am very visual and mentally "key" off of the look and information. 

    It’s normal…. It’s your vision…. You can save the formatted text all the time, I do not argue with you…. But it’s will be your own choice….

    >If I write a note on a piece of paper, I remember the size and color of the paper. I usually remember the orientation and position of the text. 

    Absolutely right!!!

    Perfect illustration what I what to escape offering to save in plain text….. if YOU write!!!!

    That one who wrote this web page or web site….. has DIFFERENT vision how to do that…. How to style it… You DO NOT HAVE TO COPY HIS STYLE of writing…. There is your way!!! After saving filtered text YOU can apply formatting emphasizing main things and highlighting something….. you can choose color and size THEN after saving!!! You can set label and flag also…..

    It’s known fact that YOU BETTER learn (the ability to remember) new note…. Not just rewriting it…. But paraphrasing it or arranging it in YOUR OWN WAY…. Simple copying is the worst way to remember it actually….. there are test results over there….

    >In the same way, when I capture a web page, I want to capture the way it looks, not just the text.  Heck sometimes the graphics are part of the information.

    Yes, sometimes. In most cases there are not relevant….

    Vadim


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    General Software Discussion / Re: General brainstorming for Note-taking software
    « on: June 02, 2006, 10:40 PM »
    About web-capturing…


    I think that in MOST cases the HTML formatting and images should be removed…. They give no additional information… just waste of space on your hard disk….. The preferable method for web-clipping is taking plain text…. It works like filtering…. Gives standard text presentation (no Zoo of different styles)…. Gives better information comprehension….. it’s stated by tests….
     
    That’s why TaoNotes uses plain text for Web-Clipping…. Though it’s able to store HTML also…… (w/o embedded images)…..

    Clipping in one-fashioned way lets easily reuse info-clips in your own “notes-stream”….. as I mentioned above TaoNotes generates HTML output on the base of provided outline structure….

    Vadim

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