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I vote this as one of the best threads ever.  If all of the software alliances, the RIAA, MPAA and so forth would sit down over a long time and discuss like this, so much could be accomplished.

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I agree with you 100% and was adding my own point.

Another point is, even though I am not Christian, the Bible is a very good read and a great set of guidelines to govern ourselves by.  I am NOT turning this into a religious discussion, but if you look at your point, it could be do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

I wish we could be trusted to govern ourselves.  There was a time when we could trust those governing us, now we cannot even trust those we employ, we elect to govern.

428
VERY well put.  Instead of coming up with ways to justify what is being done, think about the actual right or wrong of it.  Over and above legalities, is it right or wrong?

Problem:  Who decides right or wrong?  Majority?

429
That was a good read.  The base problem is this:  YOU know what you did, YOU know it was wrong, so it is still wrong, very simple.  A crime needs to have malicious intent.  Therefore, you picking up an unidentifiable $20 bill is not a crime. If you right over and spend it without at least allowing for someone to claim it, that may not be a "legal" crime, but it is a moral one, still a crime, and wrong.  If someone posts an ad saying they lost it, yet you leep it or do not repay it, that is a crime.  If you give your friend a copywrited work, it is a crime, period.  Encryption doesn't matter.  If I give you my WindowsXP CD, but no key, it is still a crime.  The point isn't the law here, it is how we govern ourselves, our morality.  It is not a crime to have a website boasting "hot teens" as long as the "teens" in question are of legal age, but is it a moral crime to insinuate youth?  Yes.  It should not be allowed.  

One thing though, my arguments are all wrong.  Why?  Reality itself is interpreted.  These things we call laws, morals, governing guidlines, they are all created by the way we interpret reality.  If someone interprets reality different, does the law apply?  Majority rules.  ;D

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For all I know, I may have it wrong :)

431
You are right, all of the above are protected.  It is apathy that allows this to happen.  Music is copyrighted and intellectual property.  CD/Mp3 we all know how the RIAA feels about that.  Patents are protected, thats why they are "patents", clothes desgns are protected, but copied or "knocked off" all the time, a building design is not suppoed to be duplicated, books, plagerism, Ferrari is a tradmark as is thier techical design and so forth, but they are all rampantly copied all the time.  Apathy is almost worse than the crime.

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Once again, a justification.  Over and above the laws of man or God, theft is wrong, plain and simple.  There is no justification.  Even if it is done out of desperation, it is still wrong.  Would I steal to save my family's life? Yes, but that does NOT make it right.

Stealing intellectual property is theft.  This is an original idea, owned solely by the creator, if you copy of use it without permission, you are robbing that person of that original idea, and that is theft.  The problem is too many people quibble about interpretations and circumstances.  We need to deal in absolutes here, right and wrong.  Software piracy can be explained, but not justified, and is in no way right.

As I said, if I sit in front of your home, and use your wireless that you pay for, I am stealing, whether it is out of desperation or not.

Back to the topic though, hacking is not a malicious act, it is curiosity, not meant to harm or steal, not mischevious.  Those who distribute what has been defeated are the problem.  Back in the day we hacked and phreaked out of the pure challenge and discovery of it, now kiddies are finding it cool to hack and then distibute software, movies, and so forth.  It is the attitude of the net that this is "l33t" and other ridiculous, immature garbage like that.  Software was once hacked for the challenge, not for the distributon.  Authors and companies were notified of the method and software became better for it, unless or course the company or author did nothing.  People who knew us, our "friends" not in our circles, were the ones releasing our work onto the Internet for others not in our circles, and without our authorisation.  That is how this all got started, the "warez" scene and so forth, and it snowballed into the poor, wannabe cool attitude on the Internet today, the attitude that finds it "l33t" to distibute other's hard work.

When people finally start standing up and saying "this is wrong and not cool" is when piracy will end.  The hacking will continue though.  All the efforts by the RIAA and MPAA and shareware authors, and companies are just drops into an ever increasing black hole.  They will always be defeated and piracy will continue until we ourselves stand up and say it is wrong insted of finding ways to justify it or make it appear that we have reasons.  There is no reason whatsoever that makes piracy right.

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All that is moot.  You are at the least stealing, a common petty low thief.  There is no honor in that.  Nothing justifies it at all.  Not only that, but you are not defeating the software, you are relying on other's work.  It is shameful to even think of a justification.  If I were to walk into your home, take your things and use them because I am poor, or it is too hard to go to the store, there is no justfying that.  If I were to use your bank card, there is not justifying that.  It is the same type of wrong, no matter what the excuse.

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It's not about whether the company or author deserves to have his/her/thier software cracked.  They DO NOT.  They deserve money for thier creation no matter how crappy it is, unless it doesn't work.  Even then, they deserve payment for that software, and you deserve the refund.

Software is not cracked, hacked, or keygenned by folks wanting to steal.  It is done by folks wanting the challenge of defeating the protection, or reverse engineering.  The problem is they post it to hidden FTPs or sites, or email it, with the intention of showing it off to peers who feel the same way, not wanting to steal anything, but others who know them and have access set it up and package it for distribution on the Internet. It's not about stealing, it's about the challenge, and the respect for breaking something.

Then of course there are the less than savory characters, desperate to make money or just to be a thug, who sell counterfit software, or distribute these works for money.

The hacking culture is just like the rest of society.  We originals didn't want to cause mischief or steal, we wanted to hack.  To stand up to a challenge, to work something out as a curiosity.  Not a thrill, although a good and successful hack is like that, and once again, NOT FOR MALICIOUS PURPOSES, or to steal, disrupt, harm, or other.  Just the challenge.  Many of us report our findings to the indvidual or company who we successfully hacked, or whose software protection we defeated.  Anonymously of course, but still we report our proof of concept and the software or company is hopefully better for it.

Herein lies another problem, the person or company whom we have given the information to fails to do anything about it, leaving themselves open due to lack of action.  While this is not a reason for people to do malicious acts or steal, it is a contibution to the problem.

No one should use software that has been stolen or hacked.  We should BUY our software, and contribute to those who make what we use.  The distros you find on Usenet (grrrr) torrent sites (GRRRR) and other are just immature and pathetic.  They should not end up there. It has gotten so that kids think it is cool to use, post, and distribute hacked, cracked or keygenned software.  IT ISN'T.

435
Oh wow!  Nice program, thanks for posting it's link here!  AMAZING! (Visual Tooltip)  :Thmbsup:

436
Nah, this just stops the shutdown completely.  I was thinking of one the presents a dialog, and offers a user defined countdown timer.  Set it for say 30 secs, and of there is no user input then it shuts down, or the user can cancel, sleep(wait) x amount of seconds in order to save work, or just click shutdown now for an immediate shutdown.  I would love to see this as a system service with a configurable .ini or .conf or a GUI to configure the service.

437
Crossposted:  How about combining Minimother with Transother?  Here is Minimother:
https://www.donation...dex.php?topic=1113.0

Okay, I gotta say it:  "miniMother"  heh heh, uh heh heh, he hehehehehe....

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Crossposted:  How about combining Minimother with this application?  Here is Minimother:
https://www.donation...dex.php?topic=1113.0

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Finished Programs / IDEA: Combine with "Transother"
« on: January 13, 2006, 08:45 AM »
How about combining this with The new application "Transother"?

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:mad: Origin Of The Idea:  I have these power off and sleep buttons on my keyboard, and today I accidentally hit the power button while moving a stack of CDs around, losing a lot of things I was working on, had been working on for hours.  There is no specific software that needs to be installed for these buttons to work, I guess they just use Windows' own shut down calls or something.

How about a small program that sits in the tray or even runs as a system service that will watch for these calls to shut down or sleep, or even maybe log off, hibernate and restart calls, then pops up a dialog with a user defined countdown and the options to shut down immediately, wait "X" amount so that work can be saved, cancel the shutdown/log off/restart/sleep/hibernate, or with no interaction will countdown a user defined amount of minutes or seconds and then just let the computer shutdown/log off/restart/sleep/hibernate normally.

441
Odd, doesn't seem to do that here.  This machine has an AthlonXP 2600+, 1GB RAM, ATI Raedon All-In-Wonder 9200 128 MB VRAM

442
You know, you are right :)  I love the Interweb :P

443
It's funny how that application (FocusAlpha) was released right after TransOther....  I did some serious web searching fr that exact type of application.  I visit over 40 freeware archives nightly, blah blah.  Kind makes me wonder.  (/me breaks out the tinfoil hat)

444
just a reminder to everyone that you can show your appreciation to skrommel by making a direct donation to him from his "1-hour software page."

Ad you know I will as soon as Xmas is over and I recover from my 3 kids.  11 year old that wants a cell phone ad a new video card and a larger HDD and an MP3 player...and...and...then there is the 7 year old and 5 year old and the wife.  Question is, when does the 40 year old kid gets some toys?   I will donate again.  Probably again after that.  After that, I might just donate.

445
It was similar, but the effect was achieved differently.  This is much faster and easier on resources actually.  I did like the "restart" option on ghoster, as well as the option to ignore the taskbar (always on top windows).

Here is the start of my Windows Vista mockup on WinXP if anyone is interested:


http://www.y0himba.net/desk.jpg-Large version:  1280x1024 | 698 KB

446
It works perfectly!  I don't even mind editing the ini file, 1-255 was a bit confusing, I was thinking 0%-100% transparent.  I could care less though!  This is perfect!  I now have a functional mockup of Windows Vista Running on WinXP! :D :Thmbsup:

447
Just a little app that sits in the tray, and automatically set unfocused windows to a user specified transparency.  I ahve tried quite a few apps and none of them auto set a specified transparency to windows in the background.

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