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I think you can still get a free copy of Serif's DrawPlus X8. It's not supported anymore (they put all their efforts into the Affinity products and chose not to provide a straightforward upgrade path) but I still use it for odd stuff and it's OK.

Inkscape's quite well thought of too, although I never got far up the learning curve before giving up!

...after a little research, DrawPlus X8 looks like you can only really find it at various non-Serif sites, but archive.org have it.

There's a universal license at

https://support.serif.com/hc/en-us/articles/10259070288015-Do-you-still-support-the-Serif-Plus-range-software

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No problem, I'm happy with the latest beta for now :)
I guess it would be nice if the person who made the help file could update it with contents about the new features for the release version, too.
-ConstanceJill (June 01, 2024, 12:41 PM)
Sorry, I had a whole heap of stuff hit me at once and I haven't been paying attention recently.

I'll try to get caught up with the new stuff and update the help document that the help file was built from in the next few days.

Do you feel that my previous style (largely of worked examples) was a useful approach?

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An initial note. Quite a few of my CRAP buttons use "runas" so I can use an admin account to run things from a non-admin login.

If I use the new "skip command window" option, I have to set the application as runas.exe and pass everything else (the actual program as well as the user account details) to the command as a lengthy parameter.

It works -- of course! -- and is exactly as the command actually works but it means, for me at least, most of my buttons -- those that don't need a results window left open, anyway -- are going to be runas.exe with the actual program I'm running (along with its parameters) demoted to a parameter of runas.

Not sure if this matters or not! I haven't found an error with it, just a change of focus. :)

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The new CRAP is cheerfully working with my favorites / layouts etc in Windows 10. I definitely like the new favorites menu and dark mode. :) I will experiment with the CMD-related settings as I go.

The edit and delete favorites buttons -- will they return?

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Here’s my reasoning for the application launch mode. With the command line window the command is all arguments side. If I am going to skip it then I need a reliable way to tell what the executable is without dealing with the arguments side of things.
There were, I think, some commands that took a lot of tinkering to make work properly -- and there are definitely some where the command window should be left open as well as some that don't.

I think I made most things work by either using start /b or not -- the remote desktop example I documented in the help is one where it was needed, but -- and I think it's down to Microsoft rather than anything else! -- expecting consistency is possibly a step too far!

I thought I'd left a note on here a few days ago to help with updating the help, if it's needed, for the new version, but I don't see the message so I expect I abandoned it accidentally :)

Anyhoo -- I'm still using CRAP only on a Windows 10 machine, but that doesn't mean I don't have Win11 available to test on if it's useful!

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