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General Software Discussion / Re: Visual Basic or Visual C++
« on: July 07, 2012, 04:50 PM »
http://www.doublecloud.org/2010/04/top-20-most-popular-programming-languages/
Source: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

20 most popular languages

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original post -- sorry it was a couple years out of date

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General Software Discussion / Re: Visual Basic or Visual C++
« on: July 07, 2012, 04:48 PM »
As for 'code completion' (Intellisense in VS), yes that has improved for ALL LANGUAGES, including C/C++, and is WONDERFUL. It makes VS the most superior IDE I've ever tried, by far. I would disagree that VS2008 is superior to VS2010 because of its dynamic help. I haven't missed it much, but that's just me. I did use it, and it was helpful though, so can understand that.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Visual Basic or Visual C++
« on: July 07, 2012, 04:43 PM »
Something like this ohloh graph ?
It shows that Java is quite dominant in what they measured, but MS/VS doesn't have a Java-language any longer (though C# is close in some areas). It also shows that C# is quite a bit more used than VB or C++.

That is the number of commits for certain projects, likely many web 2.0 projects since JAVA is the #1 language. It is a SMALL SUBSET of projects. A better source would be SourceForge.

Come on... C++ is still the most dominant language for real coding there is.

All UNMANAGED C/C++ here -- no MANAGED C++

FireFox - C++
Opera - C++
IE - C++
Windows Kernel - C/C++
Linux Kernel - C
Linux Base Packages - Mostly C or C++
Android Kernel - C/C++
iOS Kernel - C
OS/X Kernel - C
SysInternals Tools - C (mostly, some C++)
LZMA / 7z - C/C++
RAR / WinRAR - C/C++
Apache - C
IIS - C/C++
MySQL - C/C++


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Therein lies the problem with the FOSS philosophy once a popular project reaches a certain level of maturity. Some key players suddenly decide to take the codebase - along with all the freely submitted contributions from unpaid volunteers - and sell it for large sums of money. MySQL is one example of that.

Yep. Seen it happen over and over again, and is why I don't do that much F/OSS these days. Some ahole always comes along, exploits the work for profit, and all the contributors who made it possible aren't compensated, nor could they be really... would be hard to figure out how to fairly compensate people. Meanwhile, F/OSS users demand more from F/OSS developers than most other developers - perhaps because they are more accessible, I dunno. I still do release open source work, but only with the full realization that its pure charity work. Even then, it's often stolen or abused.

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Whatever happened to the "release when it's ready" philosophy that was the trademark of FOSS development?

When commercial software of the same genre is also free, they find that they suddenly have *real* competition. This has forced them to be much more aggressive in their development cycles, at least IMHO.

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