hi  tranglos   i had it set this way  Tools -> Preferences -> Startup behavior -> StartMinimized, and set it to True. 
but didnt    help   but   by  checking    Minimized  in the properties  box  fixed  it   in the installed version  but no option to do so in the portable version   but echo places  2  icons  in the customize notifaction area  only shows  1  in tray but not in customize   heres  a pic
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6583/echob.png    thats   just  using  the installed version but to double check i ran a batch script  to clean the  notification  icon cache to be sure  i got  from  here   http://www.7tutorials.com/how-clean-notification-area-icon-cache  but 2 icons will still show up  1 set to always show and the other not to show   maybe this will help you ive  been battling for it to  always show 

hi tranglos  your idea worked great  because   i renamed the default to clips    

hi tranglos  i have  4 quick veiws set-up  clips, sticky,urls, and all clips

 so it worked perfectly  ;D   thanks

@  ath    its the only icon doing that     my windows  image is pretty prestine   i use clonezilla  to roll  back  and software changes  keeps the registry  clean that way   especially   testing software  :Thmbsup: