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Thanks Renegade!  :D I'll try this compression utility.

Also, if you read this I'm curious to know why you were asking if there are any language learners here...do you have any interesting advice to those trying to learn another language? I need to learn Italian myself...

Thanks again!

I hope you like ALZip & ALTools  :)  The Eggheads are just so cute. I've got an Illustrator file of tons of characters. JaeBeom is the designer that did them.

Regarding language learning, I've been wanting to make a  language learning version of GDT as it is perfect for slowing down audio to better understand speech that is a bit too fast. Not very useful if you're fluent, but great for listening exercises for language learners.

I finally started Korean classes (well... they start next week) and I'll be ripping the CDs from the text book to MP3 so that I can use GDT to help me through the rough spots when listening.

I do a lot of translation at work sometimes for our software, and I really need to improve my vocabulary. But that's a slow process, and I've been really bad about not actually studying -- hence, I had to join a class to finally motivate me. Maybe I can sell GDT to some of the other students there :)

The only bad thing about taking Korean language classes is that most of the students are Japanese, and since Korean and Japanese grammar is so similar, and so many words are shared, they learn really fast. They really leave us poor white-boys in the dust scratching our heads  :huh:  Chinese students are the same - they know all the vocabulary already, or 70% anyways.




10927
Hi Renegade,

Thanks! I just took advantage of your offer. Strangely, I kept getting error messages about visiting from an unauthorized site but have since received confirmation that my registration code will be issued. Don't know if this is an issue at your end or mine.

Hmm... Strange... It was well tested. What browser are you using? There shouldn't be any problems, but if I can reproduce it, I can fix it. Are you using some kind of a proxy or firewall?

How's life in Seoul? I spent four years there ('96 through 2000) and have fond memories of it. I quite often think about returning. My boys are half Korean and their hal-monie lives in Seoul, so my wife and I might just do it!

Mike

Well, I've been here since early 1996, so being as that's about 10 years now, I must like it ;)

Things are pretty good here. Every once in a while I get someone asking about North Korea, but that's all just a sham. NK is nothing more than a bunch of professional brinksmen trying to get attention like a 5-year old child throwing a temper tantrum.

Were you in Seoul? There are only 2 places in Korea:

  • Seoul
  • Shigol (the country-side) ;)

I used to live in Chinju in Kyoungsang Namdo and in Taejon. Both were complete hicks-villes. Well, Taejon is a big city, but that doesn't stop people from being super conservative.

Seoul is really changing. Well, Korea changes so fast it isn't funny, and you must have seen that when you lived here. But right now Seoul is actually slowly turning into a livable place. The mayor of Seoul now is doing a great job of making Seoul a nicer place to be. He's got a huge task, but he's doing well. There's chatter about him running for president here.

If you do visit, make sure to look me up for a beer or three :)

Cheers,

Ryan





10928
Renegade when you get some time maybe you could make a post about the Guitar and Drum Trainer to the "Software in the Wild" section of the forum, just telling people a little bit about it.

Love to~! :) I'm not shy about blatant self-promotion  ;)

Any musicians in here? Or language learners?

10929
Grrr!  I posted the above with my daughter looking over my shoulder demanding to get on the computer.  I said I wanted to go to Renegade's site first.  Well what is there but Renegade's Guitar and Drum trainer.  She is learning the guitar ATM.  "Buy it for me Dad!!! Buy it for me Dad!!!".

 :huh:  :-\

Jeff

I think that's a :) WONDERFUL :) idea that you daughter has~! 

There's a 20% decreasing (over time) discount inside the program  ;)

That's quite funny though!

Cheers!

10930
Well, I've got the first batch of licences sent!

And it's completely my pleasure to do so :) 

If anyone ever doesn't get it within 1 business day, it may have gotten trapped by a spam filter. Just email me to let me know that you didn't get it and I'll resend it. You can reach me through the ALTools web site or through my own site, Renegade Minds. Since we're behind a firewall, I can't check my work email at home.

Carol asked about removing the "New Folder" egg icon in the Windows Explorer context menu, and although it is in the help, it isn't perfectly obvious at first glance how to remove it as it's buried in the section on preferences, so I'll update that in the help and on the web site once I have time. For now, here's how in case anyone else is wondering:

1) Open ALZip
2) Press F4 to display the preferences dialog
3) Click the "Context Menu" tab
4) Under "Power Extras" uncheck the "Create new folder" option

I actually really like it as I'm constantly creating new folders and it's a lot faster for me, but whatever works for you is best.

Cheers~!


10931
Google Boomerang / Hilarious!
« on: September 19, 2005, 08:42 AM »
I do a fair bit of translation and editing, and you just can't substitute a machine for a human. It just doesn't work. Especially between languages that are farther apart like many Asian languages and English.

For some fun, have a look at the Soju Dreams :)

You'll see what I mean :) hehehe


10932
General Software Discussion / Re: Would you pay for WinZip?
« on: September 19, 2005, 07:34 AM »
Oh... Jeez... Figure what I'm going to say... NO!

Well, I've been happy with what I'm using for years (ALZip), and now I even work for the company! So, I'm not planning on ever paying for WinZip. I can issue myself a million licenses of ALZip if I want! Heck, the only limit on the number of license I can issue myself is how much the data type will hold, which is a lot!

Hell... I'll issue everyone at DonationCoder an ALZip license for free! I'll talk to mouser about this and how I can give people free commercial licenses.

Cheers,

Ryan




10933
General Software Discussion / Re: HMonitor ... a warning ...
« on: September 19, 2005, 07:24 AM »
This is precisely my gripe with copy protection - the only people actually inconvenienced are the genuine users. ANyone who wants a cracked version, illegal serial numbers or a key generator can find them easy enough in any of the major search engines!!

Man... I really don't get it sometimes...

For my own licensing, I'm pretty cool about the whole thing. I prefer "user" licenses myself, and that's what I issue. So, if you want to install my software on 2 computers - that's not a problem. There are a lot of developers that are pretty paranoid about it though. I can't really blame them too much because I've seen their software cracked and given out for free. And when you've got to put food on the table and support a family, it's tough if you're selling 5 licenses a day and all of a sudden it drops to 3 because of piracy. But if someone won't upgrade a point release, bugger it - I'm outta there. 

10934
General Software Discussion / Re: Clipboard manager
« on: September 19, 2005, 07:07 AM »
Wow - Interesting thread... Glad I popped in.

I've tried ClipMate, but it really does too much for what I want. I know the underlying technology for clipboard managers, and I really doubt that I'll ever find anything that does EXACTLY what I want. However, I haven't bought ClipMate because it's just a lot of extras for me. Chris Thornton is a nice guy that I respect, but I already spend too much on software... :(

I'm glad to see the freeware managers that have been posted here. It's been a very low priority for me, and so far I haven't done anything about it, but I really need one. I'm going to give 2 of them a spin for a while - thanks to the posts above.

Man, I'm glad I found this site :)

Cheers,

Ryan

10935
General Software Discussion / Real, QuickTime, WMP
« on: September 19, 2005, 06:54 AM »
Man... Some harsh words here...

I'm going to have to disagree about QuickTime and RealPlayer being that bad.

Years ago, I would have agreed that RealPlayer was total crap. However, Real One has a much better interface than QuickTime, but both applications are a bit misunderstood by 99.9% or more of everyone out there.

Windows Media Player also falls into the same category as those 2 players, but it has an infinitely better user interface.

All three of those players are more than just simple "media players" - they are development platforms. There is a lot that you can do with them. I've worked with all of them, and RealPlayer and Windows Media Player in a great deal of depth. There are lacking things in there, but they are far superior to most other players.

Let me pick on myself for a bit... Take a jaunt over to view my MP3 player GDT and look at the screen shot. It's pretty damn ugly, but it's actually very easy to use for what it is designed for. It's a special purpose player, and not meant for a broad audience like Real One, QuickTime, or WMP. (Hereafter RO, QT, WMP)

My application does what it is meant to do, and does it very well - I won the Shareware Industry Awards Foundation award for Best Application Using .Net - It has to have some merit... But, as a general purpose media player it sucks. Completely horrid.

Now, take a look at something like Foobar2000 - great for audio, but it has a wickedly miserable interface - worse than my own! But it is highly functional and a great player.

Now, try to do with Foobar2000 what you can do with WMP, RO, or QT - you can't. Those are development platforms with a very very deep level of thought put into them.

So far, I think MS has done the best job with creating something useful, but without a doubt, Apple has created the best stuff for professional applications (of the 3). Nobody uses WMP for post-production work - everyone uses QT stuff - usually with an SGI box or Final Cut or something like those. (There are a few more.)

If you're going to do any development with a media player, those 3 rock. The interfaces are very good and you can do a lot with them. That's a very important part of their interface that is not well known. If I were to choose one... hard choice. I like Real a lot for development, but WMP is ok for some things. I don't really like the interface for QT that much, but it is very good. (I'm not a fan of C based or C reliant things... Too retro for me.)

Well, I suppose you'll have to look at the SDKs for those players to know what I mean. Anyways, they aren't all that bad.

Cheers,

Ryan



10936
General Software Discussion / Re: Rebirth now free
« on: September 19, 2005, 06:20 AM »
Excellent! Thanks for sharing that!

10937
I'm from Canada, but I live in Seoul, Korea now.

The pictures above are NOTHING like where I live, and I'm a bit jealous.

To see a bit about where I live, you can have a gander at the Soju Dreams - Pictorial humor of life in Korea :) hehe - Enjoy~!

Ryan

10938
Living Room / Re: Download site in a box
« on: September 18, 2005, 10:43 PM »
There's the PAD Kit from the ASP that you can get for free.

But, there are no free ones out there. There's an austrialian download site (http://www.downloadpipe.com/) that sells it's script and DB, but it's around $4,000 or so. http://www.FileCart.com also sells it's script for abot $2,500 or so. I've seen 1 or 2 others, but can't remember much about them... maybe I'm confusing them with the two I just mentioned.

The PAD stuff is a bit of a mess. If you check out any of the numerous PAD Kit sites, you'll see how amateur they are. The PAD Kit isn't a professional solution - it's a starter kit to kick-start your development.

I've been wanting to start a site for a while, but haven't gotten around to it as I'm working on other things at the moment. When I do get it done, I'm going to proabably offer it for around $2,500 or so or a co-branded version for much less. I haven't even started, so I have no idea what I'll do yet. I won't go the LAMP route as I personally have very little respect for a lot of the kinds of sites that use it (Linux Apache MySQL PHP). I'll go the ASP.NET route - more power, easier management, better technology. (Yes - I can be a bit of a techno bigot at times - though I do use MySQL and am not totally averse to LAMP.) I've already finished most of the data model, but it's a LOT more complex and robust than the PAD Kit model - good and bad things there of course in both cases. If you want I can send you the SQL to have a peek at. You'll need MS SQL Server or the MSDE and Enterprise manager to use it. It's about 70% complete - all the PAD stuff is there, but not the other site stuff, and it's missing stored procedures at the moment.

If you want a fast start, you can do the PAD Kit thing, but you'll need to create your own application to fill the database. This is proabably the most important thing. Also, you'll need to decide if you want to manually verify things. There are a few slimeballs out there that submit fake PADs and it's getting worse. There have been a few discussions in the ASP newsgroups about this.

I'd be interested in further discussion on this topic - I love datamodelling and building web sites when I have time.

Cheers,

Ryan



10939
General Review Discussion / Re: Vote for what Review to do Next
« on: September 17, 2005, 07:47 PM »
heheh - i love your avatar veign :)

:) Thanks! Halloween is coming up soon, so I figured it would be appropriate :)

it's hard not to really want to support those in the second category, even when their program isn't (yet) as good as the best program from a company in the first category.

 :D LOL! I know what you mean. It's hard to like someone that won't talk to you and to not like someone who's nice.

I'm a member of the ASP, AISIP, and ESC, so if you want some help getting licenses from members of those software organizations, I can probably help talk to some of them. But honestly, I think most of them would give you a license anyways. Another thing though, before you actually email anyone, let me know and I can post in the private newsgroups which will make your job a lot easier.

Cheers,

Ryan

10940
General Review Discussion / Re: Vote for what Review to do Next
« on: September 16, 2005, 10:26 PM »
Just a question, but here goes...

Do you generally approach software vendors for licenses to do your reviews?

I never got an email or support ticket from you when you did archivers and I would have given you a license for your review. I know that a lot of other software vendors will give you licenses to do reviews with. e.g. If you did FTP clients, I'm guessing that Mark from Rhino Software would give you one for FTP Voyager, and I'd bet that Chris would give you one for ClipMate for a clipboard extender review, etc., etc., etc.

I know that if I were doing reviews, I wouldn't bother with a program if I had to work with a non-registered version - the program just wouldn't make it into the review unless it's pretty much an industry standard program. The only thing that they'll expect is that you don't distribute the license.

It would be very difficult or impossible to do a competent review of Web Log Analyzers without licenses. You'd have to have licenses to do it, especially for analyzers like ClickTracks. The demo is exactly that - a demo and isn't useful for a review of its functionality. Other programs are similar. Then again, there's the time it takes to do a review. If you need to go back and check something, it would be hard if the trial expired.

If you haven't already started asking for review licenses, you should consider it. Most software vendors will be more than willing to give them to you for free.

There are some that won't though. I really doubt that if you did a Sound Editor review that you'd get anything from Avid / DigiDesign for ProTools, and unlikely that you'd get an Access license from MS for a personal database review. However, it would still be worth asking. You might luck out and get someone that's in a good / generous mood.

When asking for a review license, it would also help to tell the software vendor which market segment you're writing the review for. e.g. For Sound Editors, there' no way that you'd ever get a ProTools, Sequoia, or Pyramix license, but you might get a Samplitude V8 master or an Adobe Audition license, and I wouldn't rule out a Sound Forge review license. There are a lot of other ones out there of course, and I'd bet that you'd get a Blaze Audio review license and a lot of others as well.

I know how the licensing works and I've even talked to some of the technology licensors like the guys at Dolby, and they're not opposed to software vendors giving out licenses for product for reviews. (FYI - Vendors have to pay royalites on a lot of things like Dolby Digital, MP3 encoders, etc.)   

It would also help if at the end of each review you posted something like, "Our thanks go out to Mike at SuperSoftware Co. for donating a review license for SuperSoftware HTML Editor." People like that kind of thing.

Anyways, just my 2 cents....

Cheers

10941
Best Text Editor / Interesting - I'll have to try a couple
« on: September 16, 2005, 09:19 PM »
I use EditPlus and have for years. My primary reason is the syntax highlighting - it's just far superior to UltraEdit in that regard. The reason for syntax highlighting being so important to me is that I often have to work with a lot of stuff, and being able to clearly and easily see things is invaluable - it saves me a lot of time and effort. I can scan a page/file very quickly and see what I want in a tenth the time it would take me with UltraEdit or some other editors that don't have such strong syntax highlighting.

Also, it has good regular expressions in it. I would like better regex in it, but it's still better than some, and still nicer to use than UltraEdit there because UltraEdit uses it's own regex language.

One real limitation to EditPlus is that it can only handle up to 255 MB (or is it 127?) files, but UltraEdit can handle much larger. This is not common, but when you need it - you need it.

I think I'll try that PSPad though. Mostly for the HEX functionality that EditPlus is missing. That was a good nugget to find.

Cool review. I'll have to revisit a few things in there.

10942
Best Archive Tool / Re: Review comments from the ALTools Evangelist :)
« on: September 15, 2005, 04:50 PM »
I'm very careful when I install new software, and generally virus scan it before I run the installer. But I don't go to the same lengths that you do Carol. Then again, I'm very selective about what I even bother trying.

Quite often I know who the developer is, so I'm less worried. e.g. I wouldn't bother scanning Sword Searcher or FileBoss - but I also know Brandon and Dexter (the developers) and I know that they wouldn't try anything underhanded. Same goes for the CoffeeCup Zip utility - I know Nick and I know that he wouldn't go that route.

Another filter for me is personal referrals. I've bought software simply from hearing about it from people without even trying it. I just bought a VistaDB license and never bothered downloading it or trying it beforehand because I Mitchell Vincent (a developer that I trust) recommended it. Word-of-mouth is a very powerful thing.

For adware, I'm ok with stuff like Opera. That doesn't bother me as I know what's going on. They are a reputable company and they try to gain trust from users. But they also need to pay bills. It's the popup junk and the like that I don't go for.

I've read license agreements that let the company install anything they wanted, at anytime, for any purpose, and allowed them to change the EULA at anytime. That never got installed :)

However, in the future you'll find that more and more software will use network connectivity to provide services for the software. Web Services is just starting to become important. FeedForDev is just one example of what kind of thing is in store for the next generation of software.


10943
Best Archive Tool / Re: Review comments from the ALTools Evangelist :)
« on: September 14, 2005, 06:28 PM »

Thanks - I wasn't actually suggesting that there is anything going on, but you can understand that with a program like ALFTP where internet access is inherently required it can be difficult to judge what is going on for the average user.

I note that phone home ads have been dispensed with (thatnks that's good) - I was waiting for the firewall to pop up ;) - but can I reiterate that I find the animated banner very distracting. As suggested above could you either relegate this to the help menu or incorporate a static image instead. I am not against a company promoting its own products in free to use software at (enough vendors do it in commercial software after all) but whilst any promption has to be visible to satisfy your needs it must be non-distracting to the end user if it isn't going to drive them potty!

I don't know about other people's views on this but I find desktops get overly distracting at times with pop-ups appearing here and there (email / automatic virus updates / IM clients). They can all be helpful, but too often they just distract from the task in hand. It is a bit like a telephone - very hard to ignore.

Can I ask a simple question - what purpose does the animated ad serve? You say commercial customers don't see it - so it won't generate sales, home users have found you and if they like your software they will return to your site for updates etc. anyway.


Well, that's a bit of a complicated question to answer, but here goes.

ALZip is free for home users - commercial users pay. When they pay, they need to get something for their money, and not just warm fuzzies from doing the right thing and supporting the products they use. They do get personalized license keys, but so what? At some point there needs to be some kind of differentiation for commercial users. All the functionality is the same - there's no difference between paying and not paying - except that registering removes the animated GIF at the top. It's really just about trying to deliver the best product possible and at the same time trying to deliver a good feeling about purchasing the product. We want our commerical users to feel good about their purchases, and this is just one way that we can help do that.

Silly? Perhaps. It's just how people work though.

I think that question kind of leads into another area though - how people feel about a product.

I personally spend a lot of money on software - too much at times probably. One of the major decision factors is support for the product. If a vendor treats me like a person, and gives me real answers to my questions, hey - I'm there and they've got my money. On the otherhand, if I'm having a hard time with the software, and I'm not getting good support - hey, I'm gone in a heartbeat. I think that too often a lot of vendors forget this. Treat people well, and they'll treat you well. And yes - I am a support FANATIC. (I'll skip my rants on support :) )

Now, I'm not always the fastest, but I get people answers as quickly as possible, and always make sure that and problems get addressed. That goes for ALTools and my own software as well. The only real frustration is when users have something misconfigured on their system and there's no way to solve their problem without examining the computer itself. I've had 2 incidents like that for my own software and wasn't able to fix the problem for the users.

But, back to the other half of your question - the home user side... The animated GIF is just a gentle reminder that there are more ALTools available for free. That's all it's supposed to do - gently remind people that they can get more ALTools for free.

I'm going to revisit this issue though and try to come up with something a bit better. I've got a few ideas at the moment, but we'll see... 

I hope that I've answered your question satisfactorily.

Cheers,

Ryan



10944
Best Archive Tool / Re: Review comments from the ALTools Evangelist :)
« on: September 13, 2005, 09:23 PM »

< -snip- >

13. I thought ALZip wasn't spyware, but my firewall alerted me that ALZip is accessing the Internet! What's going on?

Don't worry. That just means that your copy of ALZip is unregistered.

If you look in the upper-right hand corner of ALZip, you'll see a little info banner. ALZip is just getting the latest information. All information is completely blind. i.e. No information is collected about you or anything like that. The small info banner blindly grabs whatever information (info banner) we send it and displays those info banners to whoever is looking. ALZip isn't sending any information; it's just getting some information. You need to register if you want to get rid of the little info banner.
-ALZip Help FAQ

Whoops! GLARING OVERSIGHT... And completely my fault. That is not correct. That FAQ entry was written quite a few years ago (2001 I think...) and was almost correct when it was written. I've updated the online FAQ to be more accurate.

That entry in the FAQ was for ALZip 4.8 or 4.9 or something like that. It's quite outdated and the function was taken out of the English/International version years ago. There is no network connectivity in the English/International version. The Korean version has an auto-updater which lets you upgrade automatically from inside the program. Currently you need to visit the web site to upgrade for the English/International version.

The Korean versions do update the info banner, but is not considered adware in Korea. That's a cultural issue where some things are just different.

Thanks for pointing that out FAQ problem! And sorry for the confusion there. 


In my book, displaying (and especially downloading, which I find appalling) banner adds in the app if it's unregistered, constitutes adware -- even if the banners advertise for your own products :huh:.

Other than that, it seemed like a nice enough tool :up:.

I've fixed the FAQ - it was incorrect.

Now, personally I'm not against adware at all. I don't have a problem with it as long as I know what's going on. (Yes - I read license agreements before I install anything new.) I'm also an ISV, so I understand the need to generate revenue. None of my own software includes any, but I can understand why there's a need for it - food on the plate and all that stuff :)

The disappointing thing is the popular attitude towards adware. It is too often confused with spyware, and that's a real problem for legitimate developers.

So for ALTools, I really want to distance them from the seedy side of the Internet - spyware - and also distance it from legitimate software that is advertising supported. ALTools are not advertising supported.

I would like to briefly point out a couple things from Wikipedia about adware:

Adware or advertising-supported software...

...Adware helps some developers recover programming development costs...

...What differentiates adware from other shareware is that it is primarily advertising supported...
-/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adware

Though it is blatant self-promotion, it's pretty hard to call it "advertising-supported software" as it's all free.

I'm affraid I agree with jibZ, the ad banner is extremely irritating (irrespective of internet connections) - it makes you think there is something that needs attention all the time. Can you not just include a link in the Help menu to other products?

WRT internet connections home, this is quite disconcerting - as users we only have your word that nothing nefarious is going on ...

Hi Carol. You've just illustrated why I'm so eager to distance ALTools from adware: "nothing nefarious is going on...". There's a legitimate problem with users not being able to trust software vendors. There are far too many dishonest ones out there. Hiding things deep inside an EULA is hardly being honest.

To try to put people's minds at rest, let me briefly outline a couple things about ALTools and ESTsoft.

ESTsoft is a profitable company. We do not need to resort to underhanded tactics to make money. Just for 1 example, ALZip is used in government, fortune 500 companies, defence (military), by IT consultants, SMEs, etc. They pay for ongoing development, and home users get to reap the benefits. We also have other product lines that are profitable. We really don't need to resort to ads to pay for things.

That's about all that I can do to reassure you that there's nothing sinister happening. Of course you can get Ethereal and a debugger like SoftIce to look into it and verify what I've said, but that's a lot of work.

Ryan, I truly appreciate you taking to the time to respond to the review. That's a strong statement of ALZip's assets for all to read. I'd love to sit down with you at a computer and show you how I used ALZip for several weeks.


Hopefully that would be on a laptop down at the local pub over a beer or two :) But I think you've pointed out probably the most important thing in software design - how people use software. That's really important and very often overlooked.

My sparse comments do not do it justice, that's for sure. We will change the ALS to ALZ as soon as mouser returns. My apologies there.

No problem. Hey - I even mucked up the FAQ by not updating it :)

In the review, I wrote: "It includes unobtrusive ad screens that rotate ads for their other products, all of which are free," and in the feature grid, I listed it as adware. The free version of the Eudora email client works on the same mechanism, and it is considered by everyone to be adware. Whether you're advertising (or marketing) your own or another's products, such devices are seen as adware by users. So I think that's fair.

Perfectly fair. It's your review. I just wanted to point out our position on adware/advertising-supported software. For a good article on the topic, please refer to Spyware, Adware, Malware, Thief by Jerry Stern. Just for reference, the Association of Shareware Professionals has adopted Jerry's position on what constitutes spyware.

However, some of the features you list here are not listed on your own feature comparison page with WinZip, WinRAR, and WinAce. And the version of WinRAR you are comparing is from May 2002. No big deal, as 7-Zip does the same thing.

Yeah - it's really out of date. I think that's from 2002 or so. It was current when it was originally written. I should either update it or just delete it. Just another task on my massive TODO list... (I literally have enough work lined up to last easily 6 months...)

And after a month of use, I found no pause button/feature during archiving. It must have gone right over my head! That's not a negative feature, but is a nice one to have. And I am at fault for not knowing how to do batch archive extraction in the manner you describe. I was looking for a specific option inside the program itself, found often in the menu structure. This too will be corrected.

When I looked at the screenshots you had in the review, I saw ALZip v6.1. ALZip 5.52 did not have that feature. It was introduced in v6.x. That could be it.

ALZip has an SDI interface, and not an MDI interface, which is why there's no menu option inside the program, and why it's in the Windows Explorer context menu.

I'm going to include FilZip later this week to the review, and if you ever have the time, I urge you to study your competition. Check out the interface of ZipZag and take a look at the keyboard shortcuts or either WinRAR or FilZip.

This is on my TODO list, but not for a few months yet. I've got a few things that need to get done before I start pushing for interface/functionality changes with the lead developer and the project manager. I've got a long list of things piling up for other ALTools as well. e.g. A random password generator for ALPass. I'll see if I can push this up in my schedule.

Consider moving the rotating ad to the status bar if possible, and making it smaller. You may like it, but it's a device users plainly don't care for.

I've been wanting to revisit this for a while, but I've still got some brainstorming to do before I come up with a solution to the problem that will keep everyone happy. Ideally, I'd like it to be something that users like and enjoy.

While ALZip is free for individual use, you still have competition for users' desktops. 

That's a massive understatement~! :) I know a few other developers who make compression/archiving software and everyone agrees that it's an over-saturated market with far too many products in the category. Conversion rates for some of the guys selling it commercially are extremely low.

I won't disagree that my review perhaps does read like an ad for WinRAR, but that's only because of the features it has, it implemented them in a thoughtful, straightforward, and easy-to-use manner.

You've done a great job with the reviews. It's not easy to do a review like that, and especially for such a crowded market space. There are a lot of excellent products in the area.

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You are not the only one who is not impressed by either 7-Zip the program or 7z the format. I've been emailed extensively by compression experts who are wary of 7z. I outlined these in several places throughout. But it is where users are going, and that's where the review led me. And I don't understand the reluctance of developers (especially the recently released WinZip 10) to include 7z creation in there archivers. It's free. 

Free isn't the point for many developers. Take Dolby Digital AC-3 audio compression for example - it's VERY expensive to implement. But it's a good standard and if you've got the money for it, it's a solid choice. Other examples would include AAC, MP3, and GIF (before the patent expired). For a lot of uses, licensing something isn't the main cost - it's the development costs or marketing costs. Though there are better audio compression schemes than AC-3 or DTS, trying to create the wide-spread use and branding that they have is beyond the means of even large companies like Microsoft. Compare those to WMA for example. Microsoft has tried to enter the audio compression and DRM markets with limited success. Granted, more than small companies would ever be able to achieve, but never-the-less, they haven't made WMA the ubiquitous things that AC-3 or MP3 are.

At the end of the day, it's not always the best technology that wins out. Just ask some of the guys at Apple :)

The longer WinRAR takes on implementing 7z creation, the more they will fall behind, and when archive tools are revisited next year, will likely not win if they don't shore up its few weaknesses. I agree that there's not much to love about 7-Zip's interface, but it shares several qualities with ALZip: it's simple, easy to use, and never confuses the user. 

:)

But ALZip's ALZ format is not widely supported and can only effectively be considered for personal compression needs, not shared ones.

Internationally, true. The ALZ format is actually quite popular in Korea. However, we're looking into this and perhaps in 6 months or so we may come up with a solution for this problem.

Again, I thank you for sharing your thoughtful response with us. You have a good product. Maybe next year, our results are different, and ALZip wins? It's one review away.

I really like to win. No, let me rephrase that... I really, Really, REALLY LOVE TO WIN~! :) So you can count on me going over your reviews for all the products with a fine toothed comb to dig for little nuggets that I can take back to the product manager and lead developer. :)

User feedback is so important, and reviews like yours are a fantastic way for developers to find out how to improve their products.

Cheers,

Ryan



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Best Archive Tool / Re: Review comments from the ALTools Evangelist :)
« on: September 13, 2005, 06:04 AM »
The little creatures are eggs. "al" in Korean means egg. It's a clever twist on the Korean to get the cartoon characters, and the English for "all". There are a few different ALTools, but only 4 publicly available in English at the moment. Zaine's comments about ALZip being simple would also apply to the others as well. e.g. Compare ALSee to ACDsee, and you'll see a real difference.

Some of my favorite characters are Baby Santa and the Lunar New Year characters :) They're just fantastic! I wish that I had some artistic ability to do that kind of thing. My personal web site is dismally boring - the anti-design thing there...

I found this site through a comment at Fileforum.BetaNews.com. It would have been better to find it before though. With all the great reviews you have here, I could have used some before and saved some time :)

Cheers,

Ryan




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Best Archive Tool / Review comments from the ALTools Evangelist :)
« on: September 13, 2005, 12:45 AM »
Hello Zaine (and all),

First, just to be clear, my name is Ryan Smyth and I'm the ALTools Evangelist at ESTsoft. But maybe ALVangelist sounds better~!  :o   I also maintain the ALTools English web site at http://www.altools.net (and a lot of other things too).

I've actually been using ALZip since long before I joined the company, and never looked back. I'm beyond the power-user stage and actually do a lot of programming on my own. I've released several programs but I only maintain those at my current personal site (http://renegademinds.com) and a few other programs that aren't publicly available (and probably would only be of use to only a handful of people on the planet besides myself...). I do not do any coding for ALZip or any other ALTools.

That's all just so that you know who I am to put this in context. The following is just my personal take.

That was a very in-depth review and you've done an outstanding job. I enjoyed some of the analysis and commentary on the general state of affairs inside of the compression/archiver area. It was nice that you included some history as well. You've clearly done more than just your homework, and it shows. The analysis of the archivers was really good and you've chosen a good cross-section of different programs, even though none of my friends made it in there ;)

That being said, I humbly offer up some of my own observations and comments.

It's obvious that you're very much in favor of the RAR and 7z formats, which is fair enough. RAR is an excellent compression format and you've nailed it on the head there. I met one of the guys from RarSoft at the Shareware Industry Conference in Denver this past July (BTW - WinZip didn't win this year where it has dominated in the past), and said the same thing to him - the RAR format is excellent. He was quite happy to hear that from a competitor  :) , but to say anything else would be lying. The facts clearly speak for themselves.

The 7z format is also very good, though I'm not a fan of the 7z program (not because it's a competitor - I just don't like the interface). If I were to pick out which of the two I think is a better format, I'd have to side with 7z because it is open source LGPL and can be integrated into other things. RAR is proprietary and just won't work with anything else because only decompression is available outside of WinRAR, as mouser pointed out when he mentioned licensing in another thread. But that's the "compatibility freak" in me.

However, personally as a developer, I'd still side with ZIP over those two as it has far more support at the moment. Part of what is going to keep ZIP popular for a very long time is vendor support from server manufacturers like Microsoft (IIS) and the Apache Foundation. Until 7z is a default MIME type, it's going to be very hard for it to become as ubiquitous as ZIP is. To illustrate that point please see this file: http://www.altools.n...rtals/0/A-7z-File.7z. I can assure you that the file is there and that I've done nothing to prevent it from being downloaded. IIS is just lacking the MIME definition for the file. This effectively renders the 7z format dead for distribution on the Internet (except for email and a few other cases of course). Once MS and Apache do include the proper MIME type, things may change. I also don't really see compression ratio being that important anymore with the massive sizes of hard drives now. For larger archives (hundreds of MB or into the GB range), yes, it becomes more important, but this isn't representative of the needs of most applications. At that point, it sounds like we're not talking about compression anymore, but backup solutions, at which point things digress into an entirely different market segment.

However, the different formats each have various strengths and weaknesses that were never addressed or made clear. The ability to create CAB files isn't something that everyone needs, but you can't substitute RAR, 7z, ZIP or other formats in place of it. Same goes for JAR files. For end users they aren't that useful though. A bit of commentary on why you chose RAR and 7z would over other common formats may have been useful for users. 

I would have enjoyed reading a bit more commentary on PPMd. Personally, I just think it's a bad idea to muck around with a format and break compatibility. I expect that from Microsoft.

Regarding TUGZip being able to create RAR files, I think you've been misleading there. "TUGZip" cannot create RAR files - it can detect if WinRAR is installed and use WinRAR. There is a difference. If I had to install another program, and pay for it, I really doubt that I'd use some other program to access it, especially when accessing a proprietary feature of the program I had to pay for. (Well, I'm not counting situations where I use a program like MySQL Front as a front end for MySQL - that's a client/server issue.) I can see there being the point of users wanting to keep a consistent interface though.

Matteo pointed out about making sure to compare the same format in speed and compression ratio benchmarking. I'll second that.

In any event, I would like to point out a couple errors/omissions (my misunderstanding?) in the ALZip comparison/review.

Customizable - ALZip allows a fair bit of customization in it's preferences, but I might be misunderstanding what you mean bu customization...

Command Line Support - ALZip does have command line support, but it is not as robust as you would find in WinRAR or some others. For more information, in ALZip > F1 > Miscellaneous > Command-Line Functionality or you can see this:

http://www.altools.n...ript_exe_zip_wsh.htm

That's for v5.5, but is still valid.

The command line functionality in ALZip is currently well suited to light duty stuff in scripting like WSH or the like.

Keyboard Shortcuts - They are there for the most common things, but missing for archive testing and password retrieval. (I'll chat with HyoTak about this to see that we get more shortcuts in.) In the meantime what is "most" :)

Pause/Continue archiving - It's in there. You can even choose between Background/Foreground processing which is useful for really large archives that take a long time.

Archive Comments - ALZip supports archive level and file level comments for formats that support comments. e.g. Not TAR.

Batch Archive Extraction - Supported. For this, you need to right-click on a selection of several archives and select the option you want.

Anti-Virus Integration - This is in the preferences - F4 > Programs (tab). You can browse for your virus scanner and set parameters.

Robust Help File - I'm not sure what robust means, but the documentation is ALZip is certainly better than most software that I've ever purchased. The help file is meant to be graphically intensive as opposed to lots of text. People don't actually read them anyways, but they will "look" at them, so pictures help :)

FAQs - This is in the help file. There's no real need for an FAQ at the web site. FAQs generally degrade over time and become unmanageable messes. Instead, I've got an Online Support Desk (very good) and the ALTools Support Desk InfoBase that similarly will degrade like an FAQ :)  However, with the help files and the ease-of-use for ALZip, we have very few questions from people that needs answering in an "FAQ".

Tutorial - I think this would be the "Quick Start" in the help file or the "Getting Started" page on the web site: http://www.altools.n...efault.aspx?tabid=42  They aren't massive tutorials on every aspect of the program - that's what the help file is for. But they are more than enough to kick start things for a beginner.

License Type - It's freeware for home users while commercial users have an unlimited trial period, but are asked to purchase a license. It's most certainly NOT adware. None of the ALTools have any adware, no spyware, no junkware, no third party bundled wierdness - nada, zilch, zip :) I really don't want people to think that ALTools are adware. The info banner in the upper right only mentions ALTools and does not serve ads for any third parties. PLEASE - Would you kindly fix this. I really don't want anyone to get the impression that we're associated with that seedy underside of the Internet...

Under the WinRAR part - "Pause during archive operation. WinRAR allows the user to pause an archive operation (creation or extraction) for whatever reason. Only 7-Zip and WinACE offer the same feature." This is in ALZip as well.

In the ALZip review before PROS - "But its lack of broader format support and dearth of options leaves it wanting." ALZip supports 36 formats (not extensions) for extraction and creates 8 formats. That's pretty good compared to anything else. It supports more extensions than that (any compatible format - extensions don't matter), but there's no real point in listing them all except as a marketing gimmick (Hey... I think I'll try that ;) ). But Seriously, ALZip is one of the best out there in this area. To be a bit more explicit, you can rename "file.zip" to "file.anything" and ALZip will still open it correctly. That goes for all but 10 formats. As an aside, the fellow who does our Swedish translation (Leif Larsson - fantastic guy) always sends "ALZipSwe.piz" files by email, reversing the zip extention to piz. For some reason zip files get filtered for him when sending emails. The extension isn't important.

You're quite correct about a lot of things being "missing" in ALZip. Some of that is just done automatically for users. Another thing is auto-correction - there's no real reason to tell a user that a file is corrupt but fixable - it's easier and faster to just fix the error, making for a seamless experience for the end user. For other things, there's no real need to confuse most people with dictionary sizes and other techno-babble that make sense to you and me, but will only elicit dumb stares when trying to explain it to dear-old-dad or mom. ALZip is designed to do 99.9% of everything that 99.9% of people will ever need in an archiver without becoming confusing. And you've hit the nail on the head about ALZip - it's meant to be really easy to use - even for beginners.

One last thing, the ALZip format is actually ALZ, not ALS. It serves a different purpose than ZIP or other formats. The ALZ format is literally unlimited as to how large it can be. There is no theoretical limit on the size of an ALZ archive. Most people won't need it, but it is useful for people that want to archive massive amounts of data like raw video.

Well, that's about it. I hope I haven't come off as being too biased :)

Cheers!




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