But, let's let that slide.  As mouser said, this has degenerated to the point that there's no productivity or value from the conversation (or lack thereof).

-wraith808 (March 07, 2011, 09:16 PM)

There had not been much productivity at all for years anyways, what makes you think we are doing anything different? ;)

Next fundraiser in 2 years we'll probably have the same arguments, in that case we just copy/paste from comments on this thread.

because I am concerned about the site.

I don't want to see this site brought down as so many have been by sock puppets who are unwilling to have reasoned, rational, respectful conversations and be held accountable for their words and actions

-wraith808 (March 07, 2011, 08:46 PM)

Good thing that you brought all these words to my screen, I'm also concerned about the site same as you do, however I interpret these words in a different context:

There was barely any reasoned approach to hosting this fundraiser. Look how hastily everything (if any) was scrambled before March - there was no highlight, there was no pledge (till half a day before March 1), there wasn't even a polished fundraiser page till last minute. Even now I can see that the majority of the pledge slots have not yet been filled.

If there's anything rational about this "announce it first, do it later one way or another" event, I just can't see it. "Makeshift" is the word I'll use to describe it, rather than "economical".

Tell me how uploading an maintenance release of an app that has been here since 2005 as "major new release" show we are being any respectful to our donors? Are we not now already taking the donations for granted?

wraith808: move on.

I know some members here are saying "why should we change for the sake of change?", now I say if we are to host an event only to strain our resources/enthusiasm to the point that we need to post this as something new -- why did we do such an event in the first place, just for the sake of hosting an event?