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Since the last fundraiser 2 years ago, there:

1. Has not been any major changes/additions to the functionality of the site

2. Has not been any major changes/additions to the looks of the site

3. Has not seen any noticeable additions to the number of active members of the site

4. Is no addition of any major software application

5. Is a few event hosted here which earned virtually no public attention (this year's NANY, in particular, which is by now literally forgotten
)


Now if you look at the fundraiser before the last, which was 4 years ago:

All these bullet points that I said above stilled applied if they were posted at that time!!


The point cannot be more evident, come on!! This is a stagnant site, no growth no innovation!

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Look guys since the last fundraiser 2 years ago, there:

1. Has not been any major changes/additions to the functionality of the site

2. Has not been any major changes/additions to the looks of the site

3. Has not seen any noticeable additions to the number of active members of the site

4. Is no addition of any major software application

5. Is a few event hosted here which earned virtually no public attention (this year's NANY, in particular, which is by now literally forgotten
)


Now if you look at the fundraiser before the last:

All these bullet points that I said above stilled applied if they were posted at that time!!


As someone who donated in the last two fundraising events ($20 and $15 under a different username) my point is:

If there's no major progress in the last 4 years, then what's the point of raising funds! Where did all the money go to?

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30% of the users come here for the forum and the community

Are you kidding me? I'd say probably only 50-60 users are here for the community. I see lots of lots people who used to frequent this forum simply disappeared. As you said, it's a ghost town and some people here just don't realize this fact.

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And it's not being released anymore... so why the continued harping on that?
Team Circle Dock will take the program forward, as a fully non-GPL semi-commercial product, and likely to be under Microsoft's BizNet umbrella.
Follow the thread first.

That's right. More than often you'll find OSS is just a zero-sum game. The only way we can move forward, in this case, is to dismiss the pettiness and political dramas, remove GPL code from the product, and release it under commercial license.

A dedicated team committed to supporting its users and coding successful software is obviously above and beyond what some have been advocating here in this thread. Let's call an end to this drama, cease the antagonism, leave these folks alone and you might be surprised what they'll come up with.

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App, I generally agree with your opinion on GPL and the potential right to the source code. But please keep in mind copyright law is not the holy grail of IP protection and GPL can be just as evil as it is virtuous. In the eyes of many, GPL is just a bible distributed from a Church.

What is your plan with the source code if secured? Distribute it?

May I ask what is the point of this insistence on forcing a generous coder, who has already given so much for free to so many people at large, to give up the source code of his IP, to potentially give up this project to the many out there who are ever-ready to abuse it, to kiss good-bye to a personal pride, to relinquish a retirement hobby, to leave out a source of income, so that FSF can be satisfied with the "compliance"?

I wonder how gratitude is defined towards a person who revived a dead project and has been revitalizing tirelessly it for the continual benefit of so so many.

As opposed to big corp GPL-related scandals, this is a case which, I'd argue, is for the utilitarian convenience of most and should be whole-heartedly supported as it is regardless of licensing technicalities.

Just don't go too technical because you have a reference book at hand:
  • You don't file a suit against yourself for your past/current copyright violations because people around you commit these offenses every now and then, nobody cares. Technically, who knows any one of us probably should be serving terms already.
  • Police don't charge everyone with offense by the book, there's always a human factor
  • Lisay Lohan didn't stay 90 days in jail... she was supposed to.

Give them a break. Move on.

@40hz:
Thanks for the enlightenment. :)

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