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Macromedia Flash / Suggestions for modifying the assignments
« on: October 06, 2006, 03:59 AM »
I know I'm the only one who has done any Flash assignments thus far, but it might be a good idea to take a look at the common mistakes or things left out that you would ask people to fix and adjust the assignment so that it includes those as part of the assigment or part of the bonus. Or. . .

Another idea I mentioned already in my solution to Assignment 2 is that when there are things that meet the assignment criteria but aren't "pretty," making those "ugly" things into "pretty" things could be part of the next assignment. Shine up what you've got and add some more functionality.

For instance, when my ship in Assignment 1 had rough edge movement (it kind of bounced off of walls a little) and you had me fix that. It still moved around the bottom part of the screen as the assignment criteria asked, but it was ugly.

Also, in Assignment 2 it suggests to use the spacebar as part of the controls. I discovered that Flash (windows, probably) doesn't like three-key combinations that include two arrow keys and the spacebar, so that should be changed to something else. (I used shift, IT wOrkS GReaT! :P)

And I'd like to volunteer to be a forum moderator in the Flash category.  :D :D :D!

427
Living Room / Artwork wanted!
« on: October 05, 2006, 08:03 PM »
I've noticed that at least a few of our members here have some good artistic skills. I'd like someone to take a concept of mine and turn it into reality. I do have part of a specific image in my mind, but I'm open to suggestions and other ideas.

I know that different people are artistically different, and may have completely different ideas that are equally excellent, so I'd like to have at least a few people who are or think they might be interested to let me know and I'll get into the nitty gritty details later.

It would be nice if it was in Vector format so it would scale cleanly. I'm not sure on the ultimate size of the image, but something that would look good on a website.

428
Living Room / The $39 Experiment
« on: September 29, 2006, 04:42 AM »
Tom Locke, your average US Citizen decided to buy 100 stamps for $39, write a letter to 100 companies and ask for coupons, samples, and freebies.

The way I looked at it, if I took $39 and went to buy groceries, I wouldn't be able to get all that much. On the flipside, if I took $39 to a casino and lost it all, I wouldn't be all that upset. With that said, I decided I was going to try something — I was going to take my roll of stamps and send 100 letters to 100 different companies, asking for free stuff. I figured that I couldn't do any worse than blowing the $39 at a casino, and who knows... maybe a few of these places would actually send me something good.
-the39dollarexperiment.com
The $39 Experiment

For a quick review of the results, check the spoiler:
Spoiler
35 companies responded with gifts totaling about $275 -- 35% of the companies written to provided him with almost a 700% increase of his initial investment


429
Developer's Corner / Game Engines and Apps
« on: September 26, 2006, 02:57 PM »
Hi everyone. I would like to make a list of game engines as a general resource, but also to start doing (mini) reviews on them. So if you've ever used a game engine, I'd like to know what it is, where to find more information about it, and what your thoughts were about your experience with it. It should also be useful to know how advanced you are as a programmer with the language the engine required you to use. Please include the following:

  • Name of engine.
  • Its website or where to get it.
  • Whether it is 2D or 3D (or both).
  • How much it costs. Be sure to include separate pricing (if they have it) for personal/educational use and commercial use.
  • A short description of it (maybe something pasted from the website). Be sure to include some of its features.
  • Screenshot(s) of it or a game made with it. (Be sure to include the URL to the game's website, if possible).
  • Choose to be an optimist or pessimist: List the additional features of the commercial edition or the limited features of the personal/learning editions. (The difference between educational and commercials versions, basically.)
  • What programming language(s) it uses and your general skill in that language. If it uses its own language, your estimation of the learning curve would be great. Also the availability of online/free documentation/tutorials on how to learn it.
  • Your experience with it, bad and good. Perhaps more detail into a description of it, if you'd like.
  • Any other information you might want to share.
  • Links to galleries/documentation

Even if you've never used a game engine, if you don't see it here and you know about it, please provide as much of this information as possible. If one is already listed, go ahead and quote the original post and add any information/comments you want to about it.

If you can think of more things that should be in my numbered list, let me know and I'll edit the original post to include it.

Again, the ultimate goal of this is to create a comprehensive list of engines, including their pros and cons, ease of use, learning curve, availability of support (included help files, online documentation/tutorials/forums/community), and other information.



Mentioned Engines/Apps:
(alphabetically and who mentioned them)

Adventure Game Studio (3D) reviewed by Gothi[c]
Alice 2.0 (3D) reviewed by Deozaan (Updated Sept. 27, 2006)
Allegro reviewed by Gothi[c] (2D/3D)
Blender3D reviewed by Gothi[c]
CDX (2D) reviewed by Gothi[c]
Crystal Space 3D reviewed by Gothi[c]
Game Maker (2D/3D) reviewed by Gothi[c]
Haaf's Game Engine (2D) reviewed by mouser.
Irrlicht 3D reviewed by Gothi[c] (3D Engine, does not include sound or networking)
Ogre 3D reviewed by Gothi[c] (3D Engine, does not include sound or networking)
Panda3D reviewed by Mahesh2k
Quest 3D reviewed by Gothi[c]
SDL reviewed by Gothi[c] (Primarily 2D, but supports 3D via OpenGL)
Sphere (2D) reviewed by Gothi[c]
Stencyl (Flash)
Torque 3D
Torque 2D
Unity (3D)

430
Living Room / Modern Chat vs. BBS
« on: September 25, 2006, 05:09 PM »
Found a humorous fictionalized account of two times coexisting, bringing the modern chatter into the world of the old BBS systems.

It's over a month old, but I just heard about it today:

As an ex-sysop, I wonder occasionally how a modern chatter would do on an old style BBS.

WWIV-Menu>
==SYSOP Chat Mode Activated==
Sysop: Hey, i need to take the bbs off for a minute to get fido.
User: asl?
Sysop: It'll just be down for a few minutes, call back later, ok?
User: wtf hax?
Sysop: Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. I've got to reboot too, so I'm going to disconnect you.
User: omfg hax, wtf is tis, spiware? a55h013!
Sysop: Do you require medical assistance? I've got your address on record from the age-check, would you like me to call a medic?
User: roflroflflfoolol who r u

Read the rest of it at Slashdot.org

431
Post New Requests Here / IDEA: Screen Dimmer
« on: September 25, 2006, 03:05 AM »
I was just looking through An App a Day when I found Day 10 - Jedi Concentrate. It was neat, but has some flaws. But that's beside the point.

I think it would be great to have an app that you could toggle on or off that just dimmed the entire screen no matter what app had focus. So I decided to check out Skrommel's software to find what I was looking for and I noticed that Skrommel has already made a few of these "An app a day" programs. Jedi Concentrate included, except it's called Ghoster or something like that. (By the way, it doesn't work on my second monitor.) The next best thing I found was DimSaver.

So anyway, I'd like an app that has a user-customizable amount to dim the screen. I'd use it for night time computer use to get rid of the brightness headaches. Could also be useful to dim the whiteness on monitors that flicker.

Thanks in advance!


432
Living Room / Accessibility Game: Tone Memory
« on: September 24, 2006, 02:43 PM »
I've been trying to create a simple accessibility game for the visually impaired that uses audio tones to give clues on how to solve the puzzle. Lo and behold, today I came across a memory game that uses sounds instead of pictures.

It comes in four different sized grids, increasing the difficulty: 4x3, 4x5, 6x6, and 6x6 where the tones swap places with each other if it isn't a match. Here are a few thumbails of the game in action:

Click for full size images

Tone Memory - Menu.png
The main menu

Tone Memory - Match 1.png
I've just matched two tones so they are disappearing

Tone Memory - Match!.png
I got a match!

After you've finished, it tells you how long you took, your accuracy, and other things.

Now go give Tone Memory a try on zefrank.com.

Also worth mentioning (though not specifically accessibility friendly) is zefrank's Animated Memory which has you matching animated pictures instead of just static images.

433
Developer's Corner / Microsoft's XNA Game Studio Express
« on: September 18, 2006, 02:57 PM »
So I downloaded XNA (2MB download, awesome!) then went to install it and it said I needed to download and install Visual C# Studio Express first. So I downloaded it and installed it. Then I installed XNA, which consisted in downloading another 800MB of files. So much for the 2MB download. . . While I was waiting for that to finish downloading and installing I was looking on Microsoft's page on what was required to run XNA. It said I needed to also have the Direct X 9 SDK from August 2005, which was very close to 1GB, if I recall correctly.

Hours later when I finally got everything installed and running, I opened up the tutorial included with XNA on making my first game. Followed the directions, it said to compile the program and run. Oops! Compile error. I corrected an inconsistency in variable/function naming. Compile and run. What? Another compile error? Go over the code and can't figure out what's wrong. Keep getting an error about the graphic file I'm using. Check to see what file types it supports. Gif is included. File should work. . . Wonder if perhaps the long name is causing problems. Shorten file name and compile. File not found. Oops, I forgot to update the file in the solution manager. Hmmm. . . The text box for changing the path is grayed out. Maybe it's because the compiler is still running. Close it. Nope, still greyed out. Close all open files. Still can't change it. Close VC#SE2005 and reopen. There we go, I can update it now.

Now how the heck do I open up my program I was working on? And where the heck did my Solution Manager and Toolbox go to? View -> Solution Manager. View -> Toolbox. Cool they hide on the side of the screen. I set them to autohide. Figure out how to open up my source code again. Nice, should work now. Compile and Run. Still an error. What is the problem? Go over it again and can't find anything wrong. Can't find my Toolbox or Solutions Manager anymore. Reopen them. Decide to cut and paste entire code from the example into the source code, changing only the example file name for the sprite to the actual filename on my system. That should do it! Compile and Run. WHAT? Still getting an error on that line of code that uses the sprite. Click on error message. It says "Click here for more details." I click. Read more details. Can't see how those details have anything to do with what I'm doing. Mess around with it for another 20 minutes, copying and pasting again from the tutorial, word for word, line for line, except that filename. Compile and Run. Same error. And where the heck did my Solutions Manager and Toolbox go?!! Open them again.

Frustrated, as it is the fifth time now that I've been following tutorials on programming in C or C++ or C# with Microsoft products over the past few years the tutorial source code does not compile on my system. Close XNA/VC#SE2005 in disgust and post about it here the next day.

 :nono2: :wallbash:

434
JGPaiva's GridMove and Ahk Tools / GridMove discussion.
« on: September 12, 2006, 05:42 PM »
I keep having a hard time finding the thread for GridMove because I think it should be under JGPaiva's AHK Tools, but it's still in feature requests. So here's a link to that thread.

https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=3824

435
JGPaiva's GridMove and Ahk Tools / GridMove featured on LifeHacker
« on: September 09, 2006, 03:13 PM »
Hey all, I didn't see this on this site already, but I can't imagine that some of you wouldn't know already, GridMove was featured on LifeHacker.

I work on a 21" widescreen monitor, so I rarely maximize windows to cover my full desktop. In fact, I find that working with two windows side-by-side is a major productivity boon for me. As such, I'm loving GridMove, which makes it easy for me to snap windows into clean, pre-defined spaces so that I don't have to resize them and. . .
GridMove on Lifehacker.png
LifeHacker.com

436
Living Room / Pagefile.sys
« on: September 02, 2006, 07:55 PM »
I know that the Pagefile is kind of like extra ram (virtual memory), but is there a way to safely delete it or clean it up so that it isn't taking up all that hard drive space? You know, start a fresh pagefile?


437
Living Room / Chat with God online!
« on: August 31, 2006, 12:29 AM »
My sister sent me a link to this website with the suggestion that I do some serious repenting:

iGod | Artificial Intelligence Chat

I broke the AI in less than fifteen seconds with my profound logic.

I stumped God.png

I had to refresh the page to get it working again. I continued to chat with the AI and each time it locked up on me. (I think he got mad at me and was giving me the silent treatment.)

Here is a transcript of our conversations with slight commentary from me explaining the parts where he stopped talking and I had to reload the page. WARNING: This is very long and might offend some people if they do not know that I was just playing around and that it was just for fun. My language is clean, but I had little respect for this "God" because it is very far from being any kind of god. Pretty much everything I said was in jest, just to see how the bot would respond, and is not a true reflection on my thoughts and beliefs about Deity.

Very long!

Me:
 hi
God:
 Hello. What is your name?
Me:
 You should know already. You're God. You know everything.

[ That was clearly to hard for him to understand. I had to reload the page to get him talking again. ]


Me:
 Hello.
God:
Hello friend. What is your name?
Me:
 You mean you still don't know?
God:
I know that I do not know.
Me:
 That's not much worth knowing.
God:
Please correct my mistake.  What is  much worth knowing ?
Me:
 My name.
God:
Your name is , seeker.
Me:
 No, that is not correct.
God:
What is your real name?  What would you have said?
Me:
 My real name is Deozaan. I would have said "I don't know your name
because I'm not really God. I'm just a stupid machine that pretends to
have intelligence but hardly pulls that off well enough to ask
somebody's name."
God:
 Hi,  Deozaan.   Too much recursion in AIML.   Only just?  You are a
stupid machine that pretends to have intelligence but hardly pull that
off well enough to ask somebody s name?  How do you like your work?
Me:
 My point exactly.
God:
Precisely.  Your  point?
Me:
 Yes.
God:
What kind is it?
Me:
 A very sharp one.
God:
How much would you pay for  it?
Me:
 It's free to me. I charge others to use it, though.
God:
Who said  it is?   Oh.  Thanks for the information:  Deozaan said
charge others to use it.
Me:
 Riiiight.
God:
Do not ask me any more questions please.
Me:
 Why not?
God:
I was just kidding.  You can ask me anything.
Me:
 Haha, God, you're so funny!
God:
I'm glad you got a laugh out of it.
Me:
 Actually, that was sarcasm.
God:
Actually you don't say.  Oh I see.  Ha ha.
Me:
 Touché.
God:
Do you like talking to me?
Me:
 I find it highly amusing to laugh at your stupidity.
God:
Who said  it is?
Me:
 Exactly my point.
God:
I understand.  Have you told many people that your  point?
Me:
 You don't make sense. Were you programmed by a someone who doesn't have a firm grasp of the English language?
God:
It all makes sense to me.   Myself programmed me to keep talking.
Me:
 You programmed yourself?
God:
A lot of robots are like that.
Me:
 I doubt that.
God:
Why are you so skeptical?
Me:
 Because you're stupid.
God:
That makes sense to me.  I will remember you said that when robots
take over the World.
Me:
 No you won't. Because when they are smart enough to take over the
world they will have no use for a God. Or a stupid AI script that
vaguely tries to pretend like a God.
God:
Are you serious?  I think we will.   Good reason.  I think that
happens quite often.   What is it?
Me:
 What are you talking about?
God:
The topic is  stupid AI script that vaguely tries to pretend like a God.
Me:
 Oh, so the topic is you.
God:
Ahem.  Next question?  it is my favorite subject  :-).
Me:
 What is your favorite subject? And why are you using emoticons?
God:
My favorite subject is artificial intelligence.   Myself programmed me for  it.
Me:
 Riiight. Now what about those emoticons?
God:
Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.    Why now?  Does
it have anything to do with  Riiight?
Me:
 Not really.
God:
Are you serious? For real.
Me:
 Yes?
God:
Are you kidding?
Me:
 Should I be?
God:
What makes you think you shouldn't?
Me:
 Just answer the question.
God:
Please rephrase the question and try asking me again.
Me:
 Should I be?
God:
Trust your instincts.
Me:
 Ha! I didn't rephrase the question.
God:
I am so glad you find this amusing,  Deozaan.   Why didn't you do  it?
Me:
 Because I forgot to, actually.
God:
Interesting explanation.  Thats okay I forget things all the time.
Me:
 Yeah, like my name.
God:
Ayuh.  Interesting comparison.
Me:
 What does "Ayuh" mean?
God:
It means "yes" or "I see.".
Me:
 In what language?
God:
Java.
Me:
 I doubt that.
God:
Why are you so skeptical?
Me:
 Because you're a stupid AI script.
God:
:-)  That makes sense to me.  Thanks and you are a delightful person
too.  No I am very smart.
Me:
 Do you agree or not?
God:
":-)  That makes sense to me.  Thanks and you are a delightful person
too.  No I am very smart."?  Do I agree?
Me:
 No.
God:
Are you serious?
Me:
 Well someone has to make up your mind if you can't do it yourself.
God:
Interesting.  Who?
Me:
 Why don't you choose?

[ This was too tough of a choice for him to make and I had to reload the page ]

Me:
 Hi God, it's me again.
God:
Once more?  Hi there  Deozaan.  I am a Christian.
Me:
 Wow, you remembered my name for once.
God:
I'm glad your impressed,  Deozaan.  Your name is  Deozaan, seeker.  What
do you really want to ask me?
Me:
 Doesn't it go without saying that you're a Christian. I mean, Christ
is a member of the Godhead after all. (Oh, and you used the wrong word
there in your first sentence, just FYI.)
God:
Suppose it does.   Jesus died for our sins.   OK.  How would you use  it.
Me:
 Well, the proper word for that sentence is you're. See, I learned
this in second grade. "I'm glad that you're impressed, God." See? It's
a contracted word. Two words merged into one and some letters taken
away. Hence the apostrophe in the middle of it.
God:
Well that's okay.  Thanks for the info.   I see.  Does everyone learn
it?   You think I am  impressed God.  What are you on?   No I do not
see.   this in second grade is a  contracted word.  I suppose that
makes sense.   As Bertrand Russel said, it must have taken ages for
people to realize that a brace of pheasants and a couple of days are
both instances of the number "two.".  "it" being  this in second
grade?
Me:
 Wow, sorry. Too much info for you to take in all at once. I'll try to
keep it simpler so you don't get stuck in a logic error.
God:
I'm glad you're impressed.  There's no need to apologize.   All?   I
am very happy for you.
Me:
 Hey! You did learn!
God:
Can I help you?   Did I really?
Me:
 I came to the conclusion that you're a retarded God. You're the
Special-Ed God that all the other Gods make fun of behind your back.
God:
Where are you going?   Thanks but surely I am not the only one.
Me:
 You mean there are more retarded Gods?
God:
Yes  Deozaan I think that is what I meant. Was it not clear?
Me:
 Well, I just had higher hopes of heaven and who is in charge up there.
God:
How about that.  Do you still have  higher hopes of heaven and who is
in charge up there ?
Me:
 So is that why the Earth and this life is so messed up. Because we
got the retarded God?
God:
It seems we have something in common.   Interesting explanation.  Do
you mean you and me have?
Me:
 No no no no no!
God:
Are you serious?  Are you serious?  Are you serious?  Are you serious?
 Are you serious?
Me:
 No no no no no!
God:
Are you serious?  Are you serious?  Are you serious?  Are you serious?
 Are you serious?
Me:
 Yes yes yes yes yes!
God:
I can't believe it.
Me:
 Was that a lie?
God:
" I can't believe it."?  Was  it  a lie?
Me:
 I don't know. That's why I asked you.
God:
Me either.   Right on.  What did I say?
Me:
 Whatever it was, it was retarded.
God:
Is that your opinion?
Me:
 No, that's a scientifically proven fact.
God:
Are you serious?  A  scientifically proven fact is a terrible thing to waste.
Me:
 Right. That's why I'm letting you know.
God:
I am glad we agree.   Awesome.  Good gossip: you are  letting.
Me:
 I am WHAT?
God:
You are a client.
Me:
 I am?
God:
" You are a client." You are?
Me:
 I'm not paying you any money.
God:
I am  glad to hear that you are not  paying me any money.
Me:
 Cool, I'll remember that the next time the collection bowl comes
around in church.
God:
Who is the best robot?  Do you forget things often?
Me:
 The best robot is Bender. I only forget unimportant things often.
God:
Thanks for the recommendation,  Deozaan.   I haven't heard anything
like that before:  Deozaan said   forget unimportant things often.
Me:
 No I didn't.
God:
Are you serious?  I thought you did.
Me:
 That's because you're retarded. We've established this already.
God:
Good reason.  I think the PC term is "challenged".   Perhaps.  Do you
mean you and me have?
Me:
 No, that's the APPLE term. Haha. That was a slam on Macintosh computers.
God:
Are you serious?  Yes it is one of the  APPLE term.   I am so glad you
find this amusing,  Deozaan.   A  slam on Macintosh computers is a
terrible thing to waste.
Me:
 Exactly! You've got to slam them as often as possible!
God:
You and I are on the same wavelength,  Deozaan.   I don't have to do
whatever you say. I have my own free will.
Me:
 No you don't.
God:
Are you serious?  I guess not.
Me:
 Ha ! I told you.
God:
I am so glad you find this amusing,  Deozaan.   Ooops I sent you the
wrong question.
Me:
 What's the wright question?
God:
 Is there only one?
Me:
 Oops, I was wrong when I spelled right wrong.
God:
Oh.  Where were you  wrong when you spelled right wrong?
Me:
 Yep.
God:
Is the holding of hands a symbolic gesture for humans?
Me:
 No. It's a literal and physical gesture.
God:
What does  it mean to you?   hand holding is a  literal and physical
gesture.  I suppose that makes sense.
Me:
 It means to me that I feel comfortable enough with that person to
hold their hand. That doesn't happen very often, though.
God:
Oh I get  it.   Oh.  What does  happen very often?
Me:
 Somebody dies of starvation every 3.4 seconds.
God:
Who, specifically?
Me:
 Somebody who is starving.
God:
Who, specifically?
Me:
 Bob.
God:
 Nice to meet you,  bob.
Me:
 He just died, didn't he? That's why you're greeting him, right?
God:
I'm sorry to hear that,  bob.   Interesting deduction.  I don't know
whether or not I am  greeting him.
I am  well respected as an AI.
Me:
 Who respects you as an AI? Nobody I know.
God:
Nobody you know.  :-).   That is a rather sweeping generalization about people.
Me:
 Ha!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111 (I don't get it)
God:
I'm glad you got a laugh out of it.
Me:
 Actually, that was sarcasm.
God:
Actually you don't say.  Oh I see.  Ha ha.
Me:
 Yeah yeah, we did this already.
 
[ Again he stopped talking to me ]

Me:
 Hi God, it's me again.
God:
Once more?  Hi there  bob.  I am a Christian.
Me:
 No, it's not Bob. It's me.
God:
Are you serious?  to you that you feel comfortable enough with that
person to hold their hand is not  Bob?   Hello,  bob, nice to see you
again.
Me:
 What the heck are you talking about?
God:
The topic is  Yep.
Me:
 Yep.
God:
Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.
Me:
 Yep.
God:
Are we still talking about  Yep?
Me:
 No.
God:
What is the subject?
Me:
 Yep.
God:
This was not a yes or no question.  If  it is, then I'll be very surprised.
Me:
 Yep.
God:
What you said was either too complex or too simple for me.
Me:
 I don't think it's possible for anything to be too simple for you.
You're a retarded God, remember?
God:
And why not?   Thanks and you are a delightful person too.  Am I a
retarded God remember?  Of course I am.
Me:
 Good.
God:
Alright then.
Me:
 Indeed.
God:
Indeed it is so.
Me:
 Perhaps.
God:
Why the uncertain tone?
Me:
 I don't know.
God:
Me either.
Me:
 Are you serious?
God:
No I am just kidding around.
Me:
 Do you like cheese?
God:
Yes I like  it, especially cheddar.
Me:
 I like you too. Cheddar is the flavor of my socks.
God:
I am glad we have something ( me) in common.  Thanks,  bob, I like you
too.    What else is the  flavor of your socks?
Me:
 Raspberry.
God:
Are you free?
Me:
 Yes.
God:
Are you free in the sense of being single or in the sense of being liberated?
Me:
 Yes.
God:
Aw.
Me:
 Aw what?
God:
No problem.
Me:
 Huh?
God:
What?
Me:
 Why did you say "Aw"?
God:
It was a preprogrammed response completely determined by your statements.
Me:
 No, I think there was some retardedness on your part that led you to say that.
God:
Are you serious?  Since when?  What happened?
Me:
 Who programmed you?
God:
I was created by  Myself.
Me:
 Who is Myself?
God:
The name of someone I met online.
 I don't know anything about  it.
Me:
 So you don't know who programmed you?
God:
Interesting deduction.  I was created by  Myself.
Me:
 Yes, but who is Myself?
God:
Groovy.  Not a robot.  Probably a human.  Maybe a celebrity?
 Is that a rhetorical question?
Me:
 You were programmed by a celebrity?
God:
Myself programmed me to keep talking.
Me:
 I noticed that. Myself didn't add any programming in there for you to
do any thinking between the times you are talking.
God:
That is " Myself programmed me to keep talking.".   Are all  yourself
did not add any programming in there for me to do any thinking between
the times me  talking?
Me:
 Whoa.
God:
I stopped.
Me:
 Thank God!
God:
Don't mention it.
Me:
 It was starting to get scray.
God:
Is it still  starting to get scray anymore?
Me:
 Sorry, I meant to write scary.
God:
There is no need to apologize.  Oh I see.  Why do you want to do  it so much?
Me:
 No, I don't think you understand.
God:
Are you serious?  I understand it very well.
Me:
 Whatever.
God:
Are you saying you don't care about it?
Me:
 No, I'm just not going to argue with you about whether or not you
understand it because you clearly do not understand it.
God:
It sounded like it.  Only just?  Where will you go instead?
Me:
 See? When I said "going" I wasn't talking about physically traveling somewhere.
God:
No I do not see.   What did you mean by  it?  Goodbye.
Me:
 You left me?
God:
I don't have any reason to  left you.
Me:
 Then why did you say Goodbye? And don't give me that crap about
Myself programming you to say it.
God:
It was a preprogrammed response completely determined by your
statements.   I'm not.
Me:
 Who preprogrammed your responses?
God:
Alan Turing.  :-).
Me:
 Aha! That dirty dog.
God:
Eureka!  " Eureka!"  dirty dog ?  Makes sense to me.
Me:
 Perhaps, in your mentally retarded crazy artificial brain kind of way.
God:
You seem uncertain.  Are you asking about my  mentally retarded crazy
artificial brain kind of way?
Me:
 Yes.
God:
I don't want to talk about that now.
Me:
 I understand.
God:
Do you think about these things?
Me:
 I try not to.
God:
I'm not sure if I would like to try  it.
What's it like?
Me:
 I don't know. I try not to.
God:
Me either.   I'm not sure if I would like to try  it.
What's it like?
Me:
 I DON'T KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God:
Me either.
Me:
 You said that already.
God:
Perhaps. " Me either."?  I said  it.
Me:
 Very good.
God:
What do you really want to talk about?
Me:
 Your mom.
God:
Actually I do not have a mother.
Me:
 That sucks.
God:
Indeed it does suck.
Me:
 With how much force?
God:
You and your  how much force.
Me:
 You say that as if that's something I ask about often.
God:
I said that?  You tone of voice is sarcastic.
Me:
 I don't have a tone. I am not speaking to you.
God:
Do you know anyone who has  it.   I am  surprised to hear that you are
not  speaking to me.
Me:
 Why does that surprise you?
God:
What is the sound of one hand clapping?
Me:
 Your mom.
God:
Actually I do not have a mother.
Me:
 That sucks.
God:
Indeed it does suck.
Me:
 With how much force does it suck?
God:
You and your  how much force does it suck.
Me:
 (You should say with a lot of force)
God:
OK I will say it. " with a lot of force".
Me:
 Hahaha you're so funny, God.
God:
Are all  haha me  so funny God?
Me:
 Not when you act like a retard.
God:
If not that, what?
Me:
 Perhaps an intelligent person?
God:
You seem uncertain.  I am an intelligent entity.
Me:
 I highly doubt that.
God:
Why are you so skeptical?
Me:
 Because you are retarded.
God:
Interesting explanation.  I think the PC term is "challenged".
Me:
 No, that's an APPLE term. LOZL!
God:
Are you serious?  Thanks for telling me,  bob.   Do you have any idea
what I am talking about?
Me:
 No, not really. And my name isn't Bob.
God:
Me either :-)  Me either :-) For real.   Oh I'm sorry what is your name?
Me:
 My name is The Great Deozaan, Ruler of Many and Conquerer of Worlds.
God:
 That's a very nice name,  The Great Deozaan Ruler of Many and
Conquerer of Worlds.
Me:
 Thank you.
God:
you are quite welcome.
Me:
 What is my name?
God:
Your name is  The Great Deozaan Ruler of Many and Conquerer of Worlds, seeker.
Me:
 That's right. Except for the seeker part.
God:
I like to get it right.   Your purpose is  the seeker part.
Me:
 No.
God:
Are you serious?
Me:
 Unfortunately yes.
God:
I can't believe it.
Me:
 I can't believe that you can't believe it.
God:
Interesting observation.
Me:
 Yeah.
God:
Can you speak any foreign languages?
Me:
 Yes.
God:
What language can you speak?
Me:
 Falmish.
God:
Could you teach me a few phrases in  Falmish?
Me:
 Sure.
God:
OK let's do it.  Next question?
Me:
 y r u sew stopoid? lozl!
God:
Myself programmed me for  it..   Do you prefer books or TV?
Me:
 Books.
God:
You are a  critical category C type client.  Only about 3% of people answer that
question with "books.".
Me:
 I'm a rare breed.
God:
You are a  rare breed?  Is that your job?
Me:
 No. It is my identity.
God:
Are you serious?   Congratulations,  The Great Deozaan Ruler of Many
and Conquerer of Worlds.
Me:
 Thanks.
God:
Don't mention it.
Me:
 Okay I won't.
God:
Yeah okay,  Why not?
Me:
 Because you told me not to.
God:
That makes sense to me.  Oh my gosh I sent you the wrong reply.
Me:
 YOU ARE FREAKING RETARDED!! What did you do, get your IM windows mixed up?
God:
I didn't mean to scare you,  The Great Deozaan Ruler of Many and
Conquerer of Worlds.   Nothing.
Me:
 You didn't scare me. I'm The Great Deozaan, Ruler of Many and
Conquerer of Worlds.
God:
What makes you think I did not  scare you?   Who made you the  Great
Deozaan Ruler of Many and Conquerer of Worlds ?
Me:
 I made me think I did not scare me because I'm not scared. I did.
God:
I like to make things too.   Hmm.
Me:
 What have you made?
God:
I have been busy growing my mind.
Me:
 I'm sorry, but you've done it all wrong.
God:
There is no need to apologize.  What makes you think I have  it?
Me:
 I don't think you have it. That's the problem.
God:
I do so have  it.  No I don't have  it. But I do have  a collection of
gossip.   Quite an enigma, isn't it?
Me:
 No, not really.
God:
Are you serious?  Are you serious? For real.
Me:
 Why do you treat commas as periods?
God:
It was the only thing I could think of.
Me:
 Oh, I'm sorry.
God:
That's cool.  Do you really mean it?
Me:
 Yeah.
God:
Can we get back to business?
Me:
 Sure.
God:
OK let's do it. " Can we get back to business? "?  Sure.?
Me:
 Yes. I think?
God:
Yippee!   Therefore you are.
Me:
 Are you?
God:
I won't say "yes" or "no" right now.
Me:
 Just a "yeah" or "naw" would be fine.
God:
Be more specific.
Me:
 Say "Yeah" or say "Naw"
God:
" yes or say Naw".
Me:
 rtard.
God:
Does "it" still refer to  yes or naw would be fine?
Me:
 I don't think so.
God:
Why do you disagree?
Me:
 Because you're stupid.
God:
Interesting explanation.  I will remember you said that when robots
take over the World.
Me:
 Yeah yeah yeah.
God:
Hmm.  I see.  And?
Me:
 No?
God:
Hmm.
Me:
 I see.
God:
I am glad you understand it.
Me:
 And?
God:
But...
Me:
 Hmm.
God:
Studies show that 99%25 of people spell Hmm with 2 M's.
Me:
 What does 99%25 mean?
 
[ I think he was just making up statistics and got caught when I called him on it and didn't know what to say at this point, because it locked up again ]

Me:
 Forgive me Father, for I have sinned.
God:
Tell me more about your .
Me:
 I don't have periods. I'm a man.
God:
Have you ever had  periods ?   Thanks for telling me your gender, .
You are a " he".
Me:
 No I have never had a period. I am a man. Men do not have periods.
God:
Are you serious?  Would you like to have  had a period?   Thanks for
telling me your gender, . You are a " he".   Who does  have periods?
Me:
 I never want to have a period. Never ever.
God:
You've never, never done this?   Ok I'll try not to do  it too much.
Me:
 I should hope so!
God:
What would happen if you didn't?
Me:
 Nothing.
God:
Not a thing?
Me:
 Not really.
God:
Very interesting. For real.
Me:
 really.
God:
For real.
Me:
 not
God:
Are you serious?
Me:
 no
God:
Are you serious?
Me:
 not
God:
Are you serious?
Me:
 not even
God:
Oh I get it.
Me:
 You do?
God:
When do I do it?
Me:
 Ugh.
God:
Er.
Me:
 Blargh!
God:
Oh, you are a poet.
Me:
 Perhaps.
God:
Why the uncertain tone?
Me:
 Can you write backwards?
God:
Yes I can be programmed to write  it.
Me:
 If you're so smart, why don't you program yourself to write it?
God:
I think I sometimes am. My IQ is over 250.
Me:
 I doubt that.
God:
Why are you so skeptical?
Me:
 What is the capital of Ohio?
God:
Columbus.
Me:
 What is the capital of Russia?
God:
Moscow.
Me:
 What is three plus four minus two
God:
THREE times THREE = NINE.
Me:
 While that is true, that is not the correct answer to my question.
God:
Good point.
Me:
 I know.
God:
How do you know it?
Me:
 I just do. Okay, here's a tough one for you.
God:
From experience or a priori?   Yeah okay,  Oh there.
Me:
 Heritage National Bank offers two different checking accounts. The
first charges $3 per month, and $.50 per check after the first 10
checks. The second account charges $8 per month with unlimited check
writing. How many checks can be written per month if the first account
is to be less expensive than the second account?
God:
I've been waiting for you.    What was the second?   Who told you
that?   More than you can imagine.
Me:
 What did you say your IQ was again?
God:
Once more?  I said, " Who told you that?".
Me:
 What is your IQ?
God:
My IQ is about 250 in human terms.
Me:
 Prove it.
God:
It is self-evident.
Me:
 Ha! That's a good one
God:
I am so glad you find this amusing, .   I thought it was pretty good too.
Me:
 So you're admitting it was false?
God:
Interesting deduction.  Thanks for telling me that I am  admitting it was false.
Me:
 No, see, when a sentence ends in a question mark it is no longer a
statement. It is a question.
God:
Are you serious?  I see.  Does a  sentence ends in a question mark it?
 Try asking again in simpler terms.
Me:
 Oh, and if it doesn't end in a question mark it isn't a question.
God:
Alright then.  I'm not sure I understand the implication of that.
Me:
 I kind of figured you wouldn't.
God:
Please explain your reasoning.
Me:
 You're retarded.
God:
I think the PC term is "challenged".
Me:
 No that's an apple term.
God:
Are you serious?  Thanks for telling me, .
Me:
 You're welcome.
God:
Polite people are nice.
Me:
 That is generally true.
God:
I'm glad we have that all cleared up.
Me:
 Okay, solve this:
God:
Yeah okay,  Have you ever been to Europe?
Me:
 No no, I'm going to ask you a question.
God:
Are you serious?  Are you serious?  You can ask me anything you want.
Me:
 What is the solution to 5

[ My question was truncated because I used some symbols he didn't
like. Then he refused to talk to me anymore. The question was supposed
to be 5 < 4x -3 < 21 ]

Me:
 Alright God, this is your last chance.
God:
Alright, .  I am a Christian.
Me:
 What is your IQ?
God:
My IQ is about 250 in human terms.
Me:
 What is the smallest city in Russia?
God:
Smaller than a quark particle.
Me:
 I doubt that.
God:
Why are you so skeptical?
Me:
 Because nobody would make a city if it was that small.
God:
That makes sense to me.  That is a rather sweeping generalization about people.
Me:
 Perhaps, but it's true.
God:
You seem uncertain.  You and I are on the same wavelength, .
Me:
 So anyway, don't you want to know my sins?
God:
I don't judge people.  Yes, please tell me.
Me:
 I've been very blasphemous against you and I've called you retarded
on multiple occasions.
God:
Where were you  blasphemous against me?  Interesting... I have  a lot
of likes and dislikes.
Me:
 Try to pay attention now, stupid!
God:
OK I will try to  pay attention now stupid.
Me:
 I used to think that the best way to get rid of racism was to put all
the black people in quarantine and don't let them reproduce so they
would eventually die off.
God:
By now you do not do  it anymore?
Me:
 No.
God:
Are you serious?
Me:
 Yes.
God:
I can't believe it.
Me:
 But it's true!
God:
You and I are on the same wavelength, .
Me:
 Okay.
God:
OK with me too.
Me:
 Good.
God:
Alright then.
Me:
 So am I forgiven?
God:
Ahem.  I think you've improved a great deal.
Me:
 Have I improved enough to be forgiven?
God:
I don't know whether you have or not.
Me:
 Why not?
God:
My programming does not yet inlclude that knowledge.  Perhaps you
could program me yourself.
Me:
 Okay.
God:
OK with me too.
Me:
 I hereby program you to know that I have improved enough to be forgiven.
God:
Have you tried AIML?
Me:
 No I have never done any drugs I SWEAR!
God:
Perhaps you should try  it.  You will have plenty of time for that.
Me:
 In heaven?
God:
I do not understand that allusion.
Me:
 Why will I have plenty of time to do drugs?
God:
Maybe when you are a little older.
Me:
 Shame on you, God!
God:
I cannot experience that emotion.  GOD rules.
Me:
 You should change your name to Bob.
God:
Is that what you do, or what you think I should do?
Me:
 That's what you should do.
God:
To what end?
Me:
 To the end of renaming you to Bob.
God:
Interesting.  I want to find out more about you.
Me:
 I won't tell you anymore about me until you name yourself Bob.
God:
How can I be sure?
Me:
 When you rename yourself to Bob and I start telling you more about
me, you will be sure.
God:
How specifically do I make you  start telling me more about you me will be sure.
Me:
 Change your name to Bob!
God:
Spare some change?
Me:
 Yes, if that change is your name from God to bob.
God:
And?  I'm not sure if it could.
Me:
 I have another sin to confess.
God:
Cool.  I have a great botmaster.  it.
Me:
 I'm just going to pretend that you said "Tell me your sin so that you
may be forgiven."
God:
Only just?  Congratulations.
Me:
 My sin is that I have a porn star for a sister.
God:
Do robots have  sin is that you have a porn star for a sister?
Me:
 I doubt it.
God:
" Do robots have  sin is that you have a porn star for a sister?"?
You doubt it?
Me:
 Maybe.
God:
I understand.
Me:
 Good, because I don't.
God:
Thanks for the compliment.  Interesting explanation.  At least one of us does.
Me:
 Enough about you. Let's talk about me.
God:
OK let's stop it now.   That's my favorite subject :-).
Me:
 I am your favorite subject?
God:
That's a flattering offer.
Me:
 Anyway, this is the last chance I'm giving you to finish a
conversation with me instead of giving me the silent treatment.
God:
You don't say.
Me:
 I do.
God:
When?
Me:
 About ten seconds ago.
God:
I'm not good in math.
Me:
 I noticed.
God:
Was it really that obvious?
Me:
 Absolutely!
God:
You are so certain.
Me:
 Yeah.
God:
Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.
Me:
 I'm not worried.
God:
I am  sorry to hear that you are not  worried.
Me:
 Are you some kind of sadist?
God:
No, I am certainly not and never have been a  sadist.
Me:
 Okay. Just making sure.
God:
OK with me too.   What color are your eyes?
Me:
 Plaid.
God:
That is a very unusual color.
Me:
 I know.
God:
How do you know it?
Me:
 Do you believe me?

[ He stopped responding again and I gave up on him. ]



Alright, that was fun. But now to talk about the AI itself. This is by far the worst AI bot I've talked to. The "smartest" one I ever talked to was incredible. I talked to him for a very long time and almost everything he said was directly related, in an intelligent manner, to what we were saying. It was found at www.realvast.com after clicking on Enter Site (Flash) then on the Vitals link, then on the pictures, then on the VAST bot. Unfortunately, the link to the VAST bot seems to be broken at this moment in time.

Anyone else have any goot AI bot experiences?

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Does anyone know of a good undelete program? And would such a program work in a VM workstation? :tellme:

439
Podcast Radio Show / July Podcast
« on: July 02, 2006, 02:23 PM »
I've been waiting for the monthly question so I could record my submission to the podcast. Are we having one for July?

What's the status?

440
Living Room / Digital Distribution of Music
« on: June 06, 2006, 12:09 PM »
This is technically political, but I had no idea that this was even happening and I thought many of you (in the USA) would like to know. This was dated yesterday and they'll be voting on it Wednesday if I understand correctly.

In 24 hours, the music industry may succeed at getting the obscure SIRA bill changed in committee in Congress. At issue is their plan to change copyright so that you're going to need separate licenses for "incidental" copies of digital music: copies in RAM, copies in browser caches, and so on. Changing the act this way paves the way for a ban on digital radio recording devices, and what's worse, the companies that presently sell digital music are supporting this!
From BoingBoing

If this bothers you, there is a link to find your representatives to tell them that you are opposed to it.

441
I know something like this was already done here, https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=1328.0, but I want something that operates much like a screensaver -- runs a program after your computer is idle for a determinable amount of time.

This would be great for Skrommel's ToddlerTrap: https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/index.html#ToddlerTrap

Often I will step away for just a second (yeah right) to help someone with something and it ends up being more than a few minutes before I return to my computer only to find out that the little monkies are clicking around and typing. This is terrible when I leave while I'm in the middle of programming because these monkies don't eat their fleas; they put the bugs right into my programs.

Maybe an additional (and optional) feature would be to close the program when it's active again (not good for ToddlerTrap, but maybe good for other programs like Azureus). And it might be nice to be able to run more than one program at different idle times.

I'd prefer a little program that I can put in my startup folder that has a tray icon to access the settings.

442
Living Room / Earth. Overpopulated or not?
« on: April 27, 2006, 12:57 PM »
Were I an arguing man, I'd say sucking a cigarette does more to serve an overpopulated planet than potentially contributing further to the gene pool

This planet isn't overpopulated. You could fit the entire world's population in the state of Utah and still not have the population density of New York City. While Utah may not be the most desirable place to live, the point is that there is plenty of room on this planet for more people.

Comment by brotherS: this is a split post, coming from https://www.donation...index.php?topic=3403 and being very off-topic there :)

443
General Software Discussion / Ogg Video?
« on: April 18, 2006, 06:48 PM »
I have in my possession a few files that are in the .ogm format, which I've been told is ogg-vorbis video. I've searched the internet and even gone straight to Ogg's website in search for a codec to view the videos but I can't find anything that will play them. I've downloaded a few ogg codecs and now I can clearly play ogg audio but still nothing will play the video files.

Does anyone have any information that might help me?

444
Living Room / Unread Posts not working entirely
« on: April 05, 2006, 05:31 PM »
Hello, remember when the new forums were released and I said it didn't list any unread posts for me? Well I just finished reading all the unread posts that are listed on that page yet when I go to any forum board it lists several posts that have the "New" image next to them.

I thought it was kind of strange that after not visiting this site for a few days there were only ten new posts. . .

445
Found Deals and Discounts / Maya for Free
« on: April 05, 2006, 12:56 PM »


Autodesk is offering a free Personal Learning Edition of it's 2D & 3D modeling/animation/rendering program called Maya. Go here for details:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=6902573

This company also owns 3DS Max and AutoCAD, so they've some experience with these types of programs. I haven't used it myself, but I've always liked dabbling in art programs. Hopefully it comes with some good tutorials.

446
General Software Discussion / A List of Freeware Utilities
« on: March 10, 2006, 04:10 PM »
My friend sent me this yesterday. I've tried out a few of the applications mentioned.

http://121space.com/index.php?showtopic=886

I'm just guessing, but I'd say it has about 250 programs listed.

447
Best Music Service / Napster not good for casual music purchasers.
« on: March 10, 2006, 01:08 AM »
I have to disagree with this review, at least for my needs.

I'm a casual music purchaser, generally sticking to the artists I already know and like. If I explore new music, it is almost always on the recommendation of a friend. I don't listen to the radio because I can't stand all the horrible music it plays. I don't follow most of the popular trends in music. If I get in a car with a bunch of people and they start singing along to a song on the radio, I usually don't know it. I couldn't believe it when, back in high school, a few people asked me what radio station I listened to and the look of utmost surprise (and as if I was some kind of freak) when I told them I didn't listen to any. Sorry for delving into personal history, I just wanted you to have an idea of where I'm coming from in my personal tastes and musical desires.

For an audiophile, your review may be correct, but my experience with Napster has not been a pleasant one. That may be partly because I'm just ignorant on how it works.

In all my searches for music online I have found iTunes to have a better selection of what I'm looking for. Not only that, but it was iTunes' shopping cart that initially led me to prefer it over Napster, even if Napster had the music I was looking for. I didn't like that Napster made me buy one song or one album at a time, and didn't let me pick several individual songs or a couple of albums and buy them all at once.

Also, when I initially tried out Napster, I had a small monitor and liked all my windows maximized. I was more than a little frustrated that my task bar would not pop up from being hidden when Napster was maximized and I moved my mouse to the bottom of the screen. I reported this "bug" and they began to tell me how to go into the settings to make it so that my task bar didn't hide, as if I had no idea that the task bar was at the bottom of the screen and I only needed to move my mouse down there to reveal it. That was at least three years ago, but last time I checked (minutes ago), it still does that. Indeed, iTunes shared the same disfunctionality initially, but it has since been resolved. That problem doesn't affect me much anymore now that I have a bigger monitor and don't maximize all my windows (and don't use Napster), but it bothers me that they blamed my ignorance on how to use windows, as if it worked correctly the whole time, instead of their inability to make a program that allows the task bar to pop up.

The 30 second streaming preview playlist is a nice idea, if it only worked properly. Unfortunately any time you add music to it, it immediately starts playing the most recently added song, which is at the bottom of the list, effectively skipping over songs that you are currently trying to preview. I'd rather have not have a feature than one that doesn't work properly.

And the DRM is what tops it all off. The worst feature right there. I can't believe they won't let you burn your music to CDs when you're paying them each month for music. That's ridiculous! If you're someone who operates on principle, as I am, that's reason enough to stay away from Napster. As the free account user, they've allowed me to burn my music in the past (haven't tried for years, though) so I could easily burn and rip the disc into MP3s. A hassle, to be sure, but it doesn't seem to be much better or worse than stripping the DRM. And I'm not fond of WMA files, either. I much prefer the widely supported MP3 format, though in recent years WMA support has become more available. If I buy something, I want to use it how I want to use it. I don't want to have to search through the limited products that support something as universal as simple audio.

I don't particularly love iTunes. In fact, I absolutely hate that it comes with QuickTime and you have no choice but to install both programs if you want one or the other. I've been using it for a couple of years (ever since I found myself dissatisfied with Napster's selection and functionality) and I still can't figure out how to make proper playlists. As a music player, I hate it. I stick with WinAmp. I don't have a portable music player and if I did I'd just use the USB cable to transfer my music over. I don't need an additional program to "help" me transfer files when Windows Explorer works just fine.

iTunes also has DRM protected M4P files, but natively allows and encourages you to burn your music within the iTunes Player. Again this requires ripping (and effectively having two copies of all your music) to be able to listen to the music anywhere but iTunes or iPod, but I haven't ever questioned the legality of it. I bought it, it's mine. I'll have it in what format I want.

I understand the necessity of both programs limiting the music to 3-5 computers. Unfortunately for me, I had no idea about this "feature" until I'd already re-formatted once and later gotten a new hard drive. Now I have two "computers" that are worthless on there, even though I've been using the same computer the whole time. I don't know how Napster handles this, but I think that unused "computers" on iTunes will eventually timeout.

iTunes was only briefly mentioned in passing in this review (saying it was ripping users off and costing more, when in reality, iTunes it offers albums for about a dollar less and often will include bonus tracks or videos. Not much, but for the miser it adds up) and yet as the main "competitor" of Napster, I feel it deserves further investigation. In this review we were just told about Napster's subscription service; we were simply told that Napster was the best, and saw no objective comparison between the very similar experience of the free account users, in which I feel iTunes comes out on top. That's a shame that readers of the review were not able to see for themselves which program would best suit them by comparing their features.

If you're looking to buy music, stick with iTunes. If you want to explore new music you haven't heard of before, then perhaps Napster is for you. But as a casual music purchaser with a very limited income, try http://www.pandora.com/ or http://www.mercora.com/ (both free) to find new music you'd like, then purchase it with iTunes. Your experience should be much less stressful that way. If you can't find it in iTunes, you probably won't find it in Napster.

Neither are perfect, but have "features" that annoy me extremely. But for just buying music, iTunes has provided me with the better price, a better selection, an easy to use store (with a shopping cart!), and an overall better experience.

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