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Living Room / The End of the Internet?

« on: February 03, 2006, 07:14 AM »

Little fuel for discussion...looks like they want to take our toys away. 

The End of the Internet?

"Why should they be allowed to use my pipes? The Internet can't be free in that sense, because we and the cable companies have made an investment, and for a Google or Yahoo! or Vonage or anybody to expect to use these pipes [for] free is nuts!"

-Ed Whitacre, chairman and CEO of AT&T

Of course AT&T have forgoten (or won't acknowledge) that they had a monopoly until the 80's and built those pipes on our, the American consumers, dime.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Internet Explorer 7 BETA 2 - Publically Available

« on: February 01, 2006, 02:15 PM »

I've been using it for about 2 hours now and I haven't noticed any problems so far.
It seems to run pretty fast, tabs are a nice feature. It accomodates my plug-ins fine.
I haven't found any web pages yet that seem to have a problem with it.

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Living Room / Re: who here is in the WYHI club?

« on: February 01, 2006, 12:50 AM »

Someone once told my dad that he asked the barber one day why he had to pay full price when he had less hair. The reply was because it takes longer to find it.

-hamradio

Good old "finders fee". 

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Living Room / Re: who here is in the WYHI club?

« on: February 01, 2006, 12:29 AM »

I hardly ever were a hat.
Where I live most guy's that do are going bald ....and my dad always told me that if you want anything to grow it needs air and sunshine. 

I'm over 50 and still have a full head of hair, and still have to pay full price for a haircut. 

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General Software Discussion / Re: Living without AutoHotkey - possible?

« on: January 27, 2006, 09:21 AM »

if there's one thing we should all know by now it's that different people have different needs, and different styles demand different tools as well.

it's always good to hear about new tools, so keep em coming!

( just don't let brotherS hear you say anything bad about autohotkey or he'll go off like a firecracker   )

Thanks mouser,
I have no desire to evangelize or convert anyone. If someone is happy with their tools (despite their limitations  , and they all have those in one degree or another), then by all means stay with what you know.

But for those ready to use something with a little more......there are other tools available.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Living without AutoHotkey - possible?

« on: January 27, 2006, 08:54 AM »

No war here... lets see if Cpilot and I can agree on the quality of other programs

I have no desire to go to war over anything. Some points were raised with a certain amount of attitude and I responded in kind.

The purpose of my original post was to point out , what I feel is a great, powerful alternative scripting language.


As I pointed out I like access to the Windows API. Being used to the power of assembly, I found Autoit to be anemic in accessing structures (types for VB users) and too dependent on wrappers to allow full access to common controls and various other tasks available on the windows operating system.
Autoit also lags behind in COM implimentation, and COM is too difficult with assembly to allow quickly creating a simple script for quick tasks.
Autohotkey IMO is basically the same as autoit, no more and no less. And I was looking for a more powerful alternative.
FBSL fills these gaps quite nicely.

I have yet to see anyone using either above to be able to access openGL, FBSL is fast enough to render openGL smoothly and seamlessly. And easy enough to use for various simple scripting tasks.

As I stated it is not for everyone, but those who would like something more robust , I would encourage giving it a look.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Living without AutoHotkey - possible?

« on: January 27, 2006, 07:28 AM »

Really? You misspelled both program names

Both being eminently forgettable I'm sure you'll understand.

Hmm...

Took a good look did ya?

So after 2 years they

don't even have a site with tutorials and a great documentation like you'll find on http://www.autohotkey.com/ ?
aren't listed in the wikipedia - check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoHotkey to compare
don't have much Google coverage
still have a typo in their headline (the program name itself!) on http://www.fbsl.net/phpbb2/ ?

Item 1

Documentation and Tuts come with the download, and lots of great examples exist on the forum. Not just BS about "what I did today".
If you can't use it based on the help file it's probably not for you anyway.

Item 2

I'm sorry the only place you can get information is from wikpedia, in case you were unaware there is a whole web out there.

Item 3

Thanks for the tip I'll get it corrected.

I'll stick with AutoHotkey..

See item 1, second sentence.

For any one else out there, your welcome to take a look, give it a try and ask questions. 

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General Software Discussion / Re: Living without AutoHotkey - possible?

« on: January 27, 2006, 01:47 AM »

nice find cpilot.  is there a web page for this project where one might read more or is it all just in the forum?

-mouser

Actually the project is freeware and is still in the "building" phase. So everything is basically contained in the forum...including download instructions. Which you can find here.
API access and COM are important to me and this scripting language allows you to follow the MSDN doc's pretty close making API access especially easy.
I have used this scripting language for almost 2 years and have watched it evolve into a very powerful tool.

For those who don't wish to commit and yet would like to try it out there is an online version of the compiler available to experiment with:
FBSL Studio

You can write scripts online and then compile for use on your machine.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Living without AutoHotkey - possible?

« on: January 27, 2006, 01:23 AM »

I've looked at Autohot Key and Autoit and found them both somewhat useful but limited.
FBSL blows em both out of the water. GUI, COM, CGI,easy API access, speed and general utility makes it a hands down superior scripting language.