to:lotusrootstarch - i see a subtext in many of your comments. it says you have a problem with the number of non-programming things that get talked about here. also the number of members who have little interest in writing programs. because somehow it *dilutes* the site. is that what you're hinting lies at the root of this problem as you call it? :-)

Anything else done to reduce the complexity or length in order to make it more suitable for human use will reduce the level of security.

Not necessarily.

-Paul Keith (February 24, 2011, 09:36 AM)

i'm not a mathematician or a cryptography expert. but i think the experts disagree with you on that point based on what i've read and do understand ;-)

40hz neglected to mention that the forum i lord it over is for the employee association of the company i work for. being 'work related' changes the whole social contract. as such, it allows me to enforce a stricter set of rules than someone who is running a public space could likely get away with. it also permits me to fannysmack miscreants without coming off as being too much of a martinet.

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@40hz- re: bunch of lungs

don't even *think* of trying it.  :-))