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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: April 09, 2018, 02:50 PM »

Hey Jody, glad to see you still active.
One useful thing would be the ability to choose the output audio device for current session. I have a built-in sound card connected to external speakers as well as Bluetooth headphones; I'd like to be able to select between the two when needed, regardless of the default device as set in the system. Do you think you could do that?
I can perform tests (under XP x86) if needed. My old Yahoo accounts are all deleted so we can't communicate over messenger anymore but I can be reached at same username @ mail.com or @ aol.com (mail.com preferred).

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 24, 2013, 09:44 AM »

Thank you, I'll see if I can get to the bottom of this.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 23, 2013, 03:50 AM »

Oh, that's unfortunate. 

I don't have any FLAC tracks either currently - except for the demo downloaded from the link above - but I'd like to know I have a player that supports such tracks, if I ever come to own any.

GOM Player wouldn't play that FLAC - neither on 98SE nor in XP-SP3. And there's no other players on my machines.

Thank you for replying!

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 22, 2013, 11:54 AM »

Is anyone else having the problem of unplayable FLAC tracks under Win9x (app103, anyone)?
Intrigued by this comment at the MSFN forums, I downloaded the 2L-050-SABD track in FLAC stereo 24BIT/192kHz format from here , added it to Trout's playlist and tried to play it on my Win98SE - tags are not recognized, play time is wrong (00:59:59 instead of 00:03:01), bitrate is also wrong (-892197 instead of 4928) and it won't play at all. Album art, however, is displayed fine. Under XP-SP3 everything works correctly. I tried XP-SP2 compatibility in KernelEx, to no avail. Trout version used is 1.0.6 build 71 on both machines.

I don't have an AHK wrapper for the BASSFLAC library to test it separately. At this point I'm not sure if the library doesn't support Win9x (although dependencies seem to be fully satisfied) or there's a problem with the internal wrapper in Trout.

Jody, what would you suggest?

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: January 01, 2012, 12:42 AM »

I see. Well then, if it's not too much of a trouble, those columns should be removed from the Columns submenu when in 9x mode.
Personally I wouldn't care much about ModDate, so unless other 9x users do, there's no rush.
Thank you for the explanation. 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: January 01, 2012, 12:25 AM »

I'm afraid the Channels and ModDate columns don't work under 9x - nothing is displayed. And the sample rate is still broken.
Yes, I did reload the playlist, restarted Trout, looked through Options...  
(Only tried the portable version)

As for the album art issue we discussed (related to EPPM's files), there are two problems:
1. Unicode fields in the APIC tags are not properly parsed (for ID3 v2.3+)
2. PIC tags are not recognized (for ID3 v2.0-2.2)

I had build an empirical parser in my player and managed to display the picture tags correctly, but then got carried away by my old Unicode/RichEdit pet peeve and broke it all.  

Anyway, all this aside... Happy New Year to us all!  

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 05, 2011, 06:45 AM »

Did you copy this config.ini from an XP/7 box?

-skwire (November 04, 2011, 09:04 PM)

Come to think about it, I may have moved the entire folder around, between machines with different operating systems, for testing purposes, some time ago. Used to be serious about testing but in the mean time, life happened. *sigh*

Nevertheless, a bug could turn into a feature - if this "theme" option would be available under both 9x and NT+, one could safely copy config files between setups and still have a place to tweak things down to personal preferences and OS capabilities.

Still, there must be some nasty code in there, because the seekbar's properties should normally not interfere with VU-meter's; it was probably a shortcut to avoid adding VU-meter specific settings in the Options dialog. But you won't get away with it that easy, while I'm around.

Seriously now, I'm very grateful to you for having been so kind as to keep up with 9x when everybody else even forgot this OS family ever existed. And - as you can see and already knew - there are others who have a place for you in their own "Kind and dedicated people" hall of fame.

Thank you very much!  

P.S. Forgot to mention: please check the portable folder where you pack the archive; there's another archive inside the main one, with an executable dated October 30. I guess it started to happen around build 40. No biggie, just that it doubles the size of the archive, which may unnecessarily impact on your bandwidth.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 04, 2011, 06:47 PM »

Unfortunately, I've only tested the CTRL+C issue after reading the post above mine from dave1, so can't offer a useful answer (I'm more of a mouse user).

As for the VU-meter, the last version I've had running before upgrading to 1.0.6 was one of the 1.0.5 series without VU-meter, so there's no comparison. First 1.0.6 version I ran was build 24 which exhibited the segmentation straight away (since the config file was already present).

Hopefully dave1 could offer some really useful information.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 04, 2011, 06:30 PM »

I can confirm CTRL+C not working in 98SE while Trout is running (regardless of whether it's playing or stopped).
For what it's worth, here's my configuration file:

[Select]

[Columns]
View_Col_#=1
View_Col_Artist=1
View_Col_Album=1
View_Col_Title=1
View_Col_Year=1
View_Col_Genre=1
View_Col_Time=1
View_Col_Bitrate=1
View_Col_Size=0
View_Col_Ext=0
View_Col_Path=0
View_Col_Filename=1
Width_Col_#=39
Width_Col_Artist=193
Width_Col_Album=147
Width_Col_Title=222
Width_Col_Year=38
Width_Col_Genre=89
Width_Col_Time=54
Width_Col_Bitrate=38
Width_Col_Size=0
Width_Col_Ext=0
Width_Col_Path=0
Width_Col_Filename=380
Column_Order=1,2,3,4,6,9,10,5,7,8,11,12,13,14,15,16,17
View_Col_Composer=1
View_Col_Comment=1
View_Col_Sample=1
Width_Col_Composer=0
Width_Col_Comment=0
Width_Col_Sample=0

[Settings]
Play_Mode=1
Always_Show_In_Tray=1
Minimize_To_Tray=1
Minimize_To_Tray_On_Close=0
Seekbar_Themed=1
Volume_Themed=1
LastFM_Username=
LastFM_Password=
LastFM_Enable=0
Tags_Missing_String=-
Minimize_On_Start=0
Toaster_Popup=1
Prev_Selected_Folder=<irrelevant>
Show_MiniBar_V_Mode=0
Show_MiniBar_H_Mode=1
Vol_Level=4
Remember_Playback_Data=0|246|0
MiniBar_AOT=1
Allow_Internet=0
GTalk_Support=0
Invert_Volume=0
Remember_Playback_Pos=0
Auto_Justify_Columns=0
Title_Text_Font=Arial Unicode MS
Title_Text_Color=0x800080
Title_Text_Style=bold s9
Title_Text_BG_Color=0xffffff
Listview_Font=Arial Unicode MS
Listview_Style=s8
Listview_Color=0x800080
Listview_BG_Color=0xfff2ff
File_Manager=
Seek_Interval=1
Playlist_Clear=1
Tags_Preserve_Mod_Times=0
Track_Between_Tracks_Type=1
Track_Between_Tracks_File=
Enable_Media_Keys=0
LastFM_Love_Track=0
Tray_Click_Num=1
Rewind_On_Resume=0
Pause_On_Idle=0
Track_Between_Tracks_TTS=Now playing track $index_c of $index_t
Prev_Selected_File=<irrelevant>
Last_Played_Row=37
LibreFM_Enable=0
LibreFM_Username=
LibreFM_Password=
Path_Music=
Path_Playlists=
Balloon_Tip_Timeout=4
Playlist_Clear_2=
Remember_Playlist_Pos=0
Remove_Dead_Entries=0
Album_Art_Disable=0
Level_Meter_Disable=0

[Hotkeys]
Hotkeys=+Up?Volume_up?Volume up?Shift-Up?Local|+Down?Volume_down?Volume down?Shift-Down?Local

[Formatting]
Seekbar=$artist§©-§©$title
Titlebar=$artist - $title
Tray_Icon=$artist - $title
Clipboard=$artist - $title, $album ($year), $time_t, $bitrate kB/s
Balloon=$artist - $title
Seekbar_Format_Style=1
Style=1

[Toaster]
L1_Format=$artist
L2_Format=$title
L3_Format=$year, $album
L4_Format=$time_t ($ext $bitrate kB/s), $genre
Stay_Time=7000
In_Speed=8
Out_Speed=8
In_Effect=Slide up
Out_Effect=Collapse to center
Border=Simple
BG_Color=0xffd2ff
L3_Color=0x0080c0
L3_Style=s1
L3_Font=MS Sans Serif
L1_Color=0x800080
L1_Style=s8
L1_Font=MS Sans Serif
No_Active_Show=0
Show_On_Resume=1
On_Click=1

[Position]
MiniBar_H_X=513
MiniBar_H_Y=20
pos_x=7
pos_y=15
pos_w=1257
pos_h=999

One other oddity - unless I'm missing the obvious - is that upon a clean install of Trout, the VU-meter will display solid bars following the audio level; using the above configuration file, the bars are segmented as if the theme were enabled under XP (but we're still talking about Win98SE). One thing I know for sure is that the current version of the Uberskin engine installed by Revolutions Pack does not skin the vertical progressbars, so they should display as MS originally intended them to.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 01, 2011, 02:22 PM »

Heh... vanilla seems to be an obsolete flavor. Try KernelEx and Revolutions Pack (with all extra requirements) and you'll see a whole lotta apps working that officially shouldn't.

Besides, I don't think there's many Win9x users that have plain, vanilla systems nowadays; I'd assume most of them would improve/update with the unofficial packs at MSFN. But yeah, that's on the unofficial side so few developers would go there. 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 01, 2011, 02:12 PM »

# Will not work on Win9x/ME.  =[

-skwire (November 01, 2011, 01:06 PM)

You'd be amazed. With the help of KernelEx, it does work; I assume you're using ther AudioGenie capabilities for this task. However, I don't have many tracks with embedded pictures and of all, only one gets displayed. Looking through the ID3 tags with a hex editor, I can see the fields are messed up, so it's probably correct.
Congratulations for a quick and well done job! 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 01, 2011, 03:52 AM »

Theoretically, that can be done; practically, it may not be easy, unless BASS_ChannelGetTags() is able to retrieve the picture from PIC/APIC tags (according to ID3v2.x version).

Whether to implement this feature or not - this is entirely Skwire's prerogative.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: November 01, 2011, 12:44 AM »

1. Album Art image must be named "folder.jpg" and must be present in the same folder as the audio tracks.
2. Toaster is a small popup window that displays information about the current track at the start (and resume) of playback.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: October 27, 2011, 05:03 AM »

Everything is OK now. Thank you very much, Jody! 

Apologies for late reply - my Internet gateway machine decided to act up (some hardware failure - SM Bus crapped out or something) so it took me some time to crop up a replacement. Thanks goes NOT to the chinese ZTE company that does not deliver Win9x drivers for their UMTS/HSPA modems. 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: October 22, 2011, 02:30 AM »

Everybody gives in to the new, sooner or later. Well, almost everybody...

Clearing and readding to the list fixed the first issue. Out of curiosity: could you elaborate on the cause, in case I stumble into it somewhere else (like an AHK script, I mean)?

I've marked the faulty controls in the screenshots below, together with the missing info icons on buttons.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: October 21, 2011, 07:52 PM »

Looks like I'll finally have to finish building my own player and share it with the 9x community that refuses to "die". Oh well...

But before that, could you please check the display of Filenames in the playlist? I'm seeing an unprintable character (empty square )at the end of each filename string. The Sample column also consists of one such character for each row. All other strings are correct.

In the Options dialog, many controls are either truncated (Statics) or wrapped (Checkboxes, Radios). My system's default font is Tahoma 8 and may be wider than yours; please check when possible.

Info buttons do not display the icon in 9x, most likely due to an unsupported function (BCM_SETIMAGELIST ?). BS_ICON or BS_BITMAP and BM_SETIMAGE should work fine in 9x and 7 but may lose button theme in XP; BS_FLAT style could make for a compromise.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: October 21, 2011, 07:12 AM »

For what it's worth, I can confirm the above first two issues on a Win98SE system:
1. VU-meter freezes for a second or so before displaying the minibar tooltip again
2. Minibar tooltip is being displayed for a second time when cursor is moved from the minibar icon
This means the codebase is common.

On another note, I've posted in the AHK forums a script that can do progressbar clicking and works in all Windows versions; you may wanna try to use it, to avoid separate code for volume/seekbar.

I wonder why I stopped getting reply notifications from this board... 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: March 18, 2010, 04:53 AM »

Thank you for the 9x fix and apologies for late reply - still no Internet connection where I moved to .

Oh and ... Happy belated Birthday! 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: February 20, 2010, 07:44 AM »

An old issue here - apologies if I repeat myself: since I disabled second monitor in Display Properties (doesn't exist physically anymore), Trout's main window remained at coordinates outside the now only monitor. The Options window also opens at old coordinates, far from reach.
Would it possible to add code that checks if saved window position matches the virtual screen boundaries and if not, move it somewhere inside? I know it's easy to edit the config file, but for the sake of professionalism...

Also, after I made the corrections, I noticed the recent changes do not apply correctly on my Win98SE machine: the seekbar overlaps the info window and the volume gets overlapped by the latter; most likely you forgot to apply the changes to the Win9x part of the respective controls. 

Have you thought again about making the info area a RichEdit control? I've tested the cRichEdit wrapper some time ago and it works fine in 9x - I've even posted a test script at the AHK forums, in the BASS thread [link]; should work without problems in XP+ too, I guess...

Thanks for keeping it up! 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: June 25, 2009, 08:35 AM »

Few months ago I posted at the AHK forums a small test script to prove Unicode tags reading capability under all Windows versions. In the mean time I updated it locally to allow its usage on systems that lack unicows.dll (which is only required for Win9x systems).

As I found it fit as an example in a recent reply to some poster there, I remembered Trout might take advantage of it too, since it's already using BASS and tags reading.

I've tested the script in both Windows98SE and XP-SP2 with positive results but only one test mp3 file with Japanese tags was available; anyone willing, please test and provide feedback whether it works for other Unicode languages as well.

Please note that in order to display Unicode text, the OS must have at least one Unicode font installed. The script uses the cRichEdit wrapper by corrupt, the BASS and BASStags wrappers by k3ph.

Link to the AHK forum post here.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: June 10, 2009, 05:28 PM »

Thanks app103, very kind of you. I personally have no problem with those fonts but I remember having read (or been told) about people that missed them; hopefully they find the links above and solve the issue. 

Jody, get off your arse! 
(obviously joking)

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: June 09, 2009, 06:33 PM »

Too bad, could've solved issues with missing Wingding (Webding?) fonts on certain machines. Oh well... *sigh*

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: June 09, 2009, 02:55 PM »

While compiling some of my own AHK toys I noticed the icon group 228 must be replaced for the main icon to show in Win9x.

Another find is a full set of black/white media icons in %system%\mci32.ocx; dunno how to extract them though - I have a hard time retrieving icons in 16bit resources through standard methods (LoadImage / SHGetFileInfo).  
However I'm not sure if that ocx is 16bit or 32bit and if it's present in all Win versions. 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: May 27, 2009, 12:23 PM »

A couple requests if I may:

• Since there's no progressbar in minimized mode, I wonder if we could have a counter attached to the horizontal minibar with cycling display on click: elapsed time -> remaining time -> total remaining time (when more files selected for playback).

• And that brings us to second request: ability to select a number of tracks from the current playlist and only play those and nothing else, without any change to the playlist. Total remaining time above would refer to the current multiple selection in this case as opposed to whole playlist.

Unfortunately I'm not into streaming so can't help with testing the new functions.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player)

« on: May 11, 2009, 06:54 AM »

Ah, completely forgot about this place. Was really wondering wassup with Trout.

One minor thing that I just stumbled into: changing playlist background color doesn't start up with the currently set color (possibly a custom one). If we just want to slightly alter the current shade, it would be quite hard to. Could we have it so that the color picker dialog starts up with the current color already selected?

Thank you and all the best!