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Free Dock
Because it floats "freely" on the desktop, rather than being stuck on the side of the screen like most other docks-ArchaicTimeFrog (August 06, 2010, 07:53 PM)
Rotisserie Dock-daddydave (August 06, 2010, 07:48 PM)
Damn
So that being said, our only recourse seems to be a release of a complete re-code away from Eric's original code.-sgtevmckay (August 05, 2010, 03:37 PM)
I thought that was what ye were planning (or thinking) of doing anyway ?-tomos (August 05, 2010, 03:49 PM)
That's why so many EULAs run to ten or more pages.-40hz (August 05, 2010, 03:43 PM)
if you are the author of code you release under GPL, can you in fact give "permission" to someone to release it as part of a closed source commercial application?-mouser (August 05, 2010, 01:11 PM)
As copyright holder, you can do anything you want with your own code. The only problem is with the code you've previously released under GPL. Anybody could take that and make a derivative (or even competing) product out of it, and you'd have no legal recourse as long as they honored the terms of the GPL by sharing their source code.
So while it would be possible to relicense such code, it creates a real problem for a commercial code shop's legal department. Because even though you've granted them a different license, what you've sold them at that point can't come with the right to exclusive use because of the prior GPL release.-40hz (August 05, 2010, 03:24 PM)
FWIW there is nothing in the GPL that requires that compiled binaries be provided free of charge. There are several GPL'd products (and some Linux distros) that charge for their binaries in order to offset expenses (or possibly even make some money) without violating the letter (or the spirit) of the GPL. So long as some provision has been made to supply source code to whoever requests it you're generally in compliance.
And while there will always be a certain few who will scream about charging for GPL-anything, nobody who actually understands what GPL is about would have any problem with that.-40hz (August 05, 2010, 02:31 PM)
Also, can't you do the app as a shareware/paid for/whatever and still release the source? Those who don't want to pay or want to modify it can compile the source, the rest can use the binaries [a la xchat]?-scancode (August 05, 2010, 02:06 PM)
this is off on a tangent about the GPL, but can someone clarify if this is allowed:If someone wants to use my code as the basis for their closed source for-profit product, they'll have to come to me and work out a different license acceptable to both of us and pay me what I want for the right to use my code in their product under that license.
if you are the author of code you release under GPL, can you in fact give "permission" to someone to release it as part of a closed source commercial application?-mouser (August 05, 2010, 01:11 PM)
not moving forward? is it just the touch screen project that is abandoned or everything?
(keep the donation by the way - or give to DC if it makes you feel better.)-nudone (August 05, 2010, 12:53 PM)
Just a comment,
I'm sure that it's unintended but, to me, the direction of this topic is starting to look a bit like ingratitude.
Perhaps we should ask Markham what we could do to further the project.
In fact:
@Markham & Sarge: In your opinion, what could we do to further the project?
We did raise some donations for you recently, which you then generously assigned to the NANY prize.-cranioscopical (August 04, 2010, 04:43 PM)
I haven't donated, but I would definitely pay for CD if it was priced reasonably.
At least if it has that launching feature I mentioned in suggestion thread.
I completely agree with being compensated for your work, and from what I've seen, CD is definitely worth something.
I'd donate now, but if you all are going to make it pay-for, I don't see much point. Especially since I'm not even using CD right now.-ArchaicTimeFrog (August 05, 2010, 11:08 AM)
Can I keep you ??? 
If I take a dead GPL'd project, and use that source and project as an inspiration to build the same project, but with my own source, is my project now GPL'd? I don't think so...-wraith808 (August 05, 2010, 08:59 AM)
You know, I thought I had read that the source had been completely rewritten, but I couldn't find it, so wondered if I had imagined it. If so, surely that makes a difference, does it not? But then again, I must have imagined it, otherwise it surely would have been mentioned in this thread before now.
Otherwise I have embargoed myself from talking about GPL because after all these years I am still confused about it.-daddydave (August 05, 2010, 10:04 AM)
Markham,
From what you have said, and taking a pragmatic view, it seems to me that you have only two choices.
Either charge a price for (your amended) CD that will cover your costs or close it down.
Personally, I'd favour the former, at least as an experiment. Would charging for CD really yield sufficient income to offset your costs? Can you be certain even of that?
It's irksome to find oneself embroiled in what seems a thankless task — I think many of us here have had that experience. Were it only that, the probable answer would be a change of attitude (and by that I intend no offence, simply the old 'if you can't change the circumstances, change your attitude' approach that helps keep many of us sane). Given that you are not covering your costs, however, it seems that you are faced with funding the project. In that case I'd say — speaking confidently from a base of complete ignorance — given your apparent desire to continue, go ahead and charge for it. Of course that depends on whether you're ready to withstand any license hassles that might surface; if so, full-ahead and damn the torpedoes.-cranioscopical (August 05, 2010, 09:41 AM)
while it does sadden me that this program will leave open source, I must say who am I to say that you don't deserve some sort of profit from this program.
after all these costs do need covering
so all I can say is I now stand by your decision....
thanks to all that have developed and improved CD,
Archon of Fate-Archon of Fate (August 05, 2010, 09:29 AM)
Just a comment,
I'm sure that it's unintended but, to me, the direction of this topic is starting to look a bit like ingratitude.-cranioscopical (August 04, 2010, 04:43 PM)
