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General Software Discussion / Re: Opera 15 Preview
« on: May 29, 2013, 08:29 AM »
But if along with the render engine they stripped out a big swath of actual features, then it totally becomes a "what's the point" item.

So I have a bit of a mental memo to "check back in a year" and see what all or little became of their big new "we want to focus on the user" speech from back then. Apparently the first step to focusing on the user is ... removing features?!

It's no longer a question of what they'll remove... but what will they bring back. They didn't "replace" the rendering engine under the hood, they completely scrapped opera. Every feature, every bit of familiarity is gone. All they kept was the logo.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Opera 15 Preview
« on: May 28, 2013, 10:03 AM »
So far, the new version of Opera is REALLY stripped down... it's basically reskinned Chrome with half the functionality and a new icon. Can't change the default search engine, bookmarks don't sync, it's... pretty much pointless. I'll be curious to see how they differentiate themselves moving forward. It's always been a niche browser for enthusiastic power tweakers... they've thrown all that out. Thus far, the only reason I can think of for using it in the future is sync with Opera mobile, if you use that. Of course, that's purely speculative because even that doesn't work right now.

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Opera 15 preview released, Mail becomes separate product

One of the things that you may notice right away is that Opera decided to separate the Mail client M2 from the browser. If you have been using Opera Mail before, you need to download the separate product from the same website to continue using it.
(see attachment in previous post)

Dream come true... whatever happens to Opera, I've always wanted a standalone M2. I'm guessing html email uses presto?

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General Software Discussion / Opera 15 Preview
« on: May 28, 2013, 08:39 AM »

First preview of the Webkit based Opera 15 is out.

So how different is Opera 15 from Opera 12.15, the latest stable desktop version? You may not notice that many changes on first glance but there are many if you look deeper.

  • The icons in the bottom bar including the zoom slider are not there anymore.
  • You cannot open a small sidebar panel with often used icons anymore.
  • The appearance menu is not available anymore. It seems that you cannot customize the look and feel of the browser anymore. This includes toolbars, icons and their position and visibility in the browser. No tabs on side.
  • The browser settings are limited.  Examples of removed preferences include selecting helper applications for selected programs, font selection, all tabs options and file type actions.
  • The opera:config page is no longer available.
  • Chromium developer tools are now used. Bye bye Dragonfly.
  • Opera Notes is not available.
  • Custom shortcuts and many mouse gestures missing.
  • Bookmarks not available yet.
  • No RSS.
  • Opera Extensions are not supported.

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I'm going to be playing with it today... we'll see how it goes. The one thing I'm excited about is M2 becoming a standalone mail client -- that's something I've really always hoped for.

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You natural moderation folks puzzle me so... :huh:

Natural moderation is a calculated effort to avoid having to ever say I'm a former drinker  :P

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