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Circle Dock / Re: Big Thank you and some minor contribution
« on: September 27, 2008, 04:53 AM »
Yeah, a couple of others have reported that and it only seems to happen if you load up Circle Dock when your computer boots but goes away when you restart the application. I'll play around with it and see what Windows is doing to Circle Dock at boot up.

Living Room / Re: Drive by malware ... ouch
« on: September 26, 2008, 06:59 PM »
Drive by malware is the worst because it's so easy to be redirected to bad sites. What browser are you using on that computer?

It makes it seem sensible to run all web browsers in a virtual machine that gets wiped out every time you close the browser and prevents any file downloads.

Circle Dock / Re: thank you and request
« on: September 26, 2008, 06:48 PM »
Yes, those two fixes will come in Alpha 9 because I have to take time to understand the VB code Jorge sent and convert it to a form I can use in Circle Dock. It's some pretty deep stuff that I would never have thought of writing myself.

Circle Dock / Re: Big Thank you and some minor contribution
« on: September 26, 2008, 06:45 PM »
I think there is a difference in technique between what DexPot and VirtuaWin take to create their virtual desktops and is probably the reason why one of them works while the other has trouble. I'm suspecting that DexPot simply moves windows around whereas VirtuaWin actually creates a separate user space for the process/programs to run in. Either way, this is something that I want to fix but haven't completely figured out how the other major docks have done it.

Circle Dock is composed of parent (the background and centre orb) and child windows (the icon links). What DexPot appears to be doing is moving the parent window but not the child windows. Now for a normal program, the icon links would be child controls instead of child windows of the background and centre orbs. But, in order to render the alpha-blended graphics for a dock, you have to use the WS_EX_LAYERED window style. This style setting is both a blessing and a curse because it allows you to create alpha-blended graphics but totally breaks the normal programming practices and controls and a person would normally use. If the icon links were child controls, we would have no problem with DexPot but they do not render if done this way. There are many quirks with WS_EX_LAYERED (I don't know why Microsoft implemented alpha-blended graphics this way, many programmers ask why) and I have had to use some hacks to get Circle Dock to display properly. If I do find a way of making the icon links child controls, I will change the code over because it would make some aspects much simpler to program and make the Circle Dock more efficient.

I second the above suggestion! It doesn't make sense for Lifehacker to do it by themselves.

Circle Dock / Re: Big Thank you and some minor contribution
« on: September 26, 2008, 03:40 PM »
Thanks for the translation. I hear that using StrokeIt with Circle Dock on a tablet PC / UMPC is really useful.

Circle Dock / Re: thank you and request
« on: September 26, 2008, 03:39 PM »
Try setting the dock to topmost in the Settings Panel under General and restart the dock to see if that helps your CPU load.

As for finding the target files from shortcuts, Circle Dock will automatically find the target files from shortcuts when you drag and drop them onto the dock for files that have an explicit file path on your hard drive. For virtual folders such as "My Computer", "My Documents", and "Recycle Bin", those are not supported yet for a direct link.

However, there is good news! I have recently received code from Jorge Coelho, creator of - Winstep Software Technologies, that will complete the drag and drop capabilities of Circle Dock and you will be able to direct link explicit files in addition to the virtual ones. Jorge also sent me code to fix the shadow residue problem of the start menu when invoked from Circle Dock. Give his site a look through if you have a chance, He's a great guy and it is virtually impossible to find this kind of code on the web.

Circle Dock / Re: Elliptical Circle Dock Works!
« on: September 26, 2008, 03:32 PM »
Thank you very much for this great dock! And I have a small question: How could I autorun the dock when windows starts? I did not find the right way
in the setting options.

Still, a great thank to your work! ;D

The easiest way to start Circle Dock on bootup is to drag a shortcut of Circle Dock to your Windows Start Up folder.

Circle Dock / Re: Elliptical Circle Dock Works!
« on: September 25, 2008, 07:10 PM »
There is prefect!

Yes, that is very nicely spaced! I think the ellipse shape is more user friendly in a real world setting than the circle shape.

There is also a variable to vertically tilt the dock, which combined with varying icon sizes will make it look very high-tech! Will be implemented for Alpha 9 only since it will need the better animation performance.

Circle Dock / Re: Elliptical Circle Dock Works!
« on: September 25, 2008, 06:44 PM »
There is no graphical way of changing the min - height of the ellipse shape. To do this right now, you have to go into the Circle Dock folder -> System -> Settings -> Config.ini -> EllipseParams -> MinHeight and change that. Then restart the dock.

Eric Wong

Circle Dock / Re: compiled app doesn't work proplery
« on: September 25, 2008, 04:52 PM »
Thanks for the interest in the code. Some parts of it are pretty messy right now and lack comments so alter it slightly and make sure a section works before trying something major. Alpha 9 will see a major reorganization of the code to give it multi-threading capabilities and more legible code but the same ideas from Alpha 8 will still apply. This will probably mean changes you make to Alpha 8 will be hard to copy and carry over to Alpha 9. If you want to explore and play around with something more stable but is similar to Circle Dock, check out the source code for my It has the new alpha-blend function I will be incorporating in Alpha 9. The current alpha-blend function in Alpha 8 has a problem with moving an object and redrawing it simultaneously.

If you want to be really ambitious, you could try decoding the ObjectDock docklet SDK from their website and tell me how I can run their docklets in C# because I have no concrete idea so far.

You can send your German translation to my e-mail at [email protected] and I will include it in a minor update.

Eric Wong

Circle Dock / Re: Elliptical Circle Dock Works!
« on: September 25, 2008, 04:43 PM »
Attached is the exe file for Circle Dock with an Ellipse Shape as an option. Some of the settings for the ellipse are hard coded into the program, such as the angle of vertical tilt, so you can't change some of it right now. The settings for the regular circle shape will affect the ellipse shape. This will be separated in Alpha 9. To change the aspect ratio of the ellipse, you have to do that in the System -> Settings -> Config.ini -> EllipseParams -> AspectRatio and restart the program.

You must place the attached exe file in the same directory as your current Circle Dock directory or a new one. To enable the ellipse shape, go to the settings panel under Dock Shape and select the Ellipse option in the drop down menu. It is safe to replace your Alpha 8.1 exe with this Demo exe since it simply has the added function of an ellipse.

I found that I could fit more items into approximately the same space using the ellipse option so it is something for you guys to explore.

Note: This demo is not on the official Circle Dock website.  Now, back to getting better performance for Alpha 9.

Post New Requests Here / Re: IDEA: Desktop Bring to front
« on: September 24, 2008, 10:53 PM »
I can confirm that DeskTop works! I have the hotkey set to F9, and I'm on Vista 32-bit running IE/Chrome/Firefox.

Very cool! :Thmbsup: I couldn't get the program at to work properly on Vista so DeskTop is a keeper. I'm going to play around with the AHK code. I think one thing that could be added is to close the AHK window when the user opens up another program or tries to bring another window to the top of the z-order.

Circle Dock / Re: Easy Unicode Paster 2.0 is Released (Major Update)
« on: September 24, 2008, 10:18 PM »
I wonder if they got hacked. I could always fire up a virtual machine and check it out.

Circle Dock / Re: Easy Unicode Paster 2.0 is Released (Major Update)
« on: September 24, 2008, 03:06 PM »
 (see attachment in previous post) (see attachment in previous post)

Program: Easy Unicode Paster
Done by: jl

We mail to inform you that the program you suggested has been added to the freeware index of Freeware World Team. We thank you for your help and contribution. Please feel free to suggest other programs as well - we welcome your support!
-email from FreewareWorld

Google is telling me that the site has malware:

Any thoughts?

Circle Dock / Re: [Translate File] Simplified Chinese
« on: September 24, 2008, 02:26 PM »
sourceforge could be a good choice.

There is an alternative link for downloading Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 8.1 at

Circle Dock / Re: Elliptical Circle Dock Works!
« on: September 23, 2008, 09:08 PM »
Yes, there is nothing that stops each icon from having an individual size. Circle Dock is coded so that each element is independent of everything else but is controlled by a central program so it is pretty flexible in that respect. One limitation that should be kept in mind is that the icons have to appear in front of the centre orb because the centre orb owns the icons.

Right now, you can also specify the angle of tilt for the ellipse and combined with different sized icons, I think it will look pretty snazzy. I will play around with it a bit more.

Post New Requests Here / Re: IDEA: Transparent window container
« on: September 23, 2008, 06:56 PM »
the other way is to create an invisible window that "docks" the programs on its surface - when it is brought to the front, the other windows naturally follow.  this method might be more difficult but it seems like it may *possibly* be more responsive in the real world (but i don't know for sure).

You could modify the source code for Window Extractor: to do this and I do believe this would be the most responsive solution since all the windows would be owned in one. However, some programs don't like to be owned by another program, especially those widget types. I would recommend you try an autohotkey solution before you think about pursuing this method.

If you want to test the possibility of modding Window Extractor to do it, download the program from the website and try extracting your programs by hovering over the title bars and press F10. F11 un-extracts them.

Circle Dock / Re: Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 8.1 (Minor Update) is Released
« on: September 23, 2008, 04:34 PM »
If the Alpha 9 is out, can I just copy n paste the inside "Setting" folder "Config.ini" & "DockItemData.ini" files and not effect the new version?

Yes you can. The recommended method of upgrading now is to simply copy over the System -> Settings folder into the newer Circle Dock versions and you will retain all your settings.

Circle Dock / Re: Elliptical Circle Dock Works!
« on: September 23, 2008, 04:32 PM »
COOL Elliptical Shape MAN...! I Will Very Expect Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 9 to be Release on Mid of Oct 08.

I think that's actually one of your circular backgrounds in the screenshot!

Circle Dock / Re: Elliptical Circle Dock Works!
« on: September 23, 2008, 04:30 PM »
Awesome! Any chance that it will be included in another pre-Alpha9 "minor update"? (pretty please! )

I'll post the updated CircleDock.exe file here later today/tomorrow so you can play around with it. I don't want to release it as another version because it would require more updates to the language files for the new options. Therefore, the elliptical options will only be in English for this modification.

Circle Dock / Re: Elliptical Circle Dock Works!
« on: September 23, 2008, 04:27 PM »
I've one Circle Dock issue to let you know and must be improve, it is rotation mouse wheel scrolls up n down, every times I must click on the Circle Dock background once time to use mouse wheel to scroll up n down to rotate the icons, when click to show up or start up the Circle Dock. My suggest is when mouse over on Circle Dock and scrolls to rotate the icons, no need to click every times.


Now I using (minor Alpha8.1) and not have this problem yet, I don't know why...? But I still remember Alpha 8.0 has this problem...
Never mind, I keep on to attention this issue

That is a bug that I know about. It comes up intermittently and is caused by the Orbit.Hook.dll component used to capture the event when you click your middle mouse button. I took it from another open source project but it appears that I will have to rewrite it to work properly. I will aim to do that for the Alpha 9 release.

If you use a keyboard hotkey to toggle Circle Dock, then there is no problem with it getting focus. As a work around, I recommend you install http://www.highrez.c...useButtonControl.htm and use that to map Circle Dock keyboard shortcut to your middle mouse button and disable the mouse toggling in Circle Dock. Then, there should be no more issues. I expect to be able to find a suitable replacement for the Orbit.Hook.dll file that would be of similar quality as XMouseButtonControl.

Living Room / Re: What Sports Do You Participate In?
« on: September 23, 2008, 01:29 AM »
Playing sports is like taking drugs.

Circle Dock / Elliptical Circle Dock Works!
« on: September 23, 2008, 01:08 AM »

I've modded the code for Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 8 to do an elliptical shape and I have to say, I think it looks much better as an ellipse shape!

(I was taking a diversion from thinking about Alpha 9.)

Circle Dock / Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 8.1 (Minor Update) is Released
« on: September 22, 2008, 09:01 PM »
Circle Dock 0.9.2 Alpha 8.1 is released with some updated language files: Serbian, Croatian, Simplified Chinese 1, and French. There are also a few new backgrounds included that were posted on this site. The executable portion of Circle Dock is the same so you do not need to upgrade everything if you already have Alpha 8.

Thanks to Lingku, Igor Stanisic, [email protected], and Boba-Fett for providing updates and to anyone that I may have missed. I have updated the credit list on the Circle Dock website and noted it on the download page, but I have not changed the CircleDock.exe file with any updates yet because I don't want to change it just yet. I will update it in a future release:

For people who are having trouble accessing Wikidot, you can grab an alternative copy of CircleDock at

I've been doing a bit of development on Alpha 9 by through coding a new program, Custom Desktop Logo: (Translations for this program are welcome. It is multi-language compatible like Circle Dock is.) I've been experimenting with multi-threading and I have solved one of the location issues with the alpha blending function by rewriting so that I can now move a dock icon and resize it at the same time without jerky movements. Every alpha blending function I've seen on the web has this glaring bug in it and I'm will be posting an article somewhere about how to do proper alpha-blended graphics. I just can't believe how many people have this bug in their program and why they don't fix it.

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