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Find And Run Robot / Re: Pydoc and getting results in Farr

« on: May 16, 2009, 12:35 AM »

ahhh, that looks more interesting than what I was trying here. Let me try yours

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Latest FARR Release v2.107.04 beta - Sep 23, 2012

« on: May 16, 2009, 12:34 AM »

mouser, it looks like console output is never cleared out. My console memo keeps getting longer and longer everytime I invoke an alias via appcapappendmemo

edit: I was using  the alias the wrong way. It works fine now after your example in other post.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Pydoc and getting results in Farr

« on: May 16, 2009, 12:32 AM »

mouser

How do you use "tempmemofont fixed " in the alias though?

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Find And Run Robot / Farr could read Environment variables PATH?

« on: May 16, 2009, 12:11 AM »

mouser,

how hard it would be read paths from EV so that we can run globally defined commands via Farr? For example I am using Gnu Grep(and it is defined in Env V)  now it would be very tight if I could run Grep via Farr without creating aliases and it would be in sync with Env V all the time when we have it that way.


Basically Env V would be one of the search paths for Farr.

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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?

« on: May 15, 2009, 11:32 PM »

superboyac, very good points.

Since I am one of the loudest regarding these matters here I would like to point out that I am not against OC per se. What I am against is those who exploit people`s harmless trust on such services and our very short computer history is full of these kinds of massive exploitation. As long as OC behaves like a good entity and does take the dark side(although some of the founders ahs done it multiple times in the past) I would not raise my voice much. But I am suspicious of their justifications and means that is why I am questioning OC`s integrity here.

I personally would not use any software OC is embedded even if they are the good guys. I also would try to inform those people who see no harm in this.

I hope that drapps does not take my verbal negativity personal because it has nothing to do with him, with his skills or with his words. His integrity would not change my mind at all. My intuition tells me that something is little fishy with OC, that is all


You know if they have money and man power they can find many other ways to make money. Either they ran out of ideas or there is big money in this.

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General Software Discussion / Re: What is the currently best Desktop Search software?

« on: May 15, 2009, 10:03 PM »

(Meanwhile, I'll check for *.py on my own system.)

-tranglos (May 12, 2009, 03:38 PM)

Seems to work fine for me. I created an index of a library of *.py files from ActiveState Komodo Edit distribution. Archivarious appears to have indexed them and finds text in them correctly.

Do email the author, or possibly check other settings of your index (double-click an existing index). Perhaps you have an option set  (size, compression, language, etc.) that unintentionally excluded those files.

-tranglos (May 12, 2009, 03:57 PM)

I think I like this application. It even has a server which is cool. I have one main question actually. Is it developed actively? I mean do you get couple updates a year at least?

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General Software Discussion / Gnu grep how can I get colored output in ms concole?

« on: May 15, 2009, 08:13 PM »

I cannot seem to get colored output from Gnu Grep. I tried the color option maybe standard ms console does not support such thing. Does anyone know a solution?

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Farr strecthed idea, send key strokes

« on: May 15, 2009, 12:00 AM »

I knew about copying and pasting and that is how I got the idea actually.

If the shortcut format could be close to ahk that would even be greater. I am also hoping that Farr could accept sequence of keys and key combinations.

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Find And Run Robot / Farr strecthed idea, send key strokes

« on: May 14, 2009, 11:53 PM »

I have been thinking about this for a while. It might be interesting if Farr could send key strokes-combinations to focused application. We could use it as a like shorthand macro tool, for small tasks for apps that support wide range of shortcuts.

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Living Room / Re: Looking for a newsgroup news reader

« on: May 14, 2009, 10:43 PM »

40hz, sorry I did not see the search button right in the middle. I am little flaky regarding checking out sources nowadasy because of the tasks I need to finish. But thanks for upfront information I will definetely check it out. It might fit my needs.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Pydoc and getting results in Farr

« on: May 14, 2009, 10:19 PM »

thanks man

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Living Room / Re: Looking for a newsgroup news reader

« on: May 14, 2009, 10:17 PM »

The thing is that it is hard to tell what kind of groups they run and the level of activity. I am sure there are all kinds but is this a private or connected to other usenet groups as well?

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Pydoc and getting results in Farr

« on: May 14, 2009, 10:06 PM »

Sure here we go
In the original one all these words are aligned but not in Farr

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Living Room / Re: Looking for a newsgroup news reader

« on: May 14, 2009, 10:05 PM »

40hz, sorry for typo in my message! I was trying to say that I do not do binary-download stuff I am sorry about it.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Pydoc and getting results in Farr

« on: May 14, 2009, 09:58 PM »

mouser thanks, this turned out to be easier than I thought. This will be instant help access for me.

I have 2 questions or suggestions.

-Spacing(of words) of console output is not same inside Farr. The content looks little scrabled due to that.  Is there a way to force formatting?

-Any way to change memo background color?

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Find And Run Robot / Pydoc and getting results in Farr

« on: May 14, 2009, 09:39 PM »

Hi

I want to use Farr to query python document. There is a module for it and it would print out to console. I know there were some works regarding getting console output. Is it something doable at the moment with latest release?

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Living Room / Re: Looking for a newsgroup news reader

« on: May 14, 2009, 09:34 PM »

thanks fenixproductions

Which news server is good nowadays for checking back archieves or new posts? I do not do binaries or other stuff, I just want to be able check out some culture, computer, news ,language related stuff maybe.

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Living Room / Re: Looking for a newsgroup news reader

« on: May 14, 2009, 07:12 PM »

I would like to hear from Google lovers about this particular issue

- big history - few years ago Google removed pretty big part of their nntp archives and it is impossible now to get some messages back (other servers don't have them either).

-fenixproductions (May 14, 2009, 07:01 PM)

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Living Room / Re: Looking for a newsgroup news reader

« on: May 14, 2009, 07:10 PM »

Thanks for suggestions guys I will try the paid ones.
fenixproductions, I 40tude  actually started using  couple hours ago, and it looks pretty good indeed.

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Living Room / Re: Looking for a newsgroup news reader

« on: May 14, 2009, 02:18 PM »

thanks mouser. I did search the forum but they look rather couple years old. I guess want the latest and the best I will check them out though, some stuff is timeless sometimes

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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?

« on: May 14, 2009, 01:15 PM »

I would like to make one thing clear on my side. The ads are not a big deal. I would turn off the internet install it run virus software block it with firewall etc etc. My position on ads are in general very close to mouser`s position. The main troubling thing to me is the privacy aspect. Gathering information about people`s behaviour in any way is invasion of privacy unless someone willingly knowingly giving it away. In that sense, the whole web turned into place for phishing pretty much. And this was not the web we were dreaming back in  early 90s.  How did we get to this place? Because of AD SUPPORTED SERVIVE MENTALITY. Now everyone wants statistics about you to sell to another. It is a scheme that will create bigger burden for us later.

Back to OC, showing recommandations is not a problem if it was done by charity that has no intention abotu collecting any kind of information about you. But these people are in this business to just to do opposite of that. These little baby steps and sneaking into your private computer environments are all about gathering mor and more data about you so that they can target you with more ads.

I would like to mention that I have nothing to hide, it is not like I am hiding anything here, if anyone is living my area would like to check, they can come and check to see if I have some fishy stuff going on my computers. The reason I am worried about privacy aspects more than many other people is that I just find it wrong that many companies-entities do not care about everyone`s right to be stay invisible and be no one.

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Living Room / Looking for a newsgroup news reader

« on: May 14, 2009, 12:45 PM »

Hi

I am looking for a standalone newsreader that can download, search etc. I use thunderbird for basic needs but I was wondering what the other solutions are out there.

I am interested in hearing from people who actually use these softwares (google is not my friend)

thanks

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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?

« on: May 14, 2009, 12:41 PM »

mahesh2k,

If you cannot sell your software you just stop developing it. I have mentioned this in some another topic, if you start a business and if it looks like you are not making any money you just close the business. It is very simple. There is  no need to nudge and fudge by using things like ad supported service. I know this is not the common practice but I believe it is right thing to do.

Developing software is hard  and selling it harder. I totally understand the positions of the developers. I do not have a solution for them but if it is not working out for them they should pursue something else. Ad supported solutions of anything is not a solution to anything. Ad supported services never get better they  just get more and more obscene and obnoxious. I am sure you all have seen this happening around. Do you think that google would advertise less and less by the time goes? They will just make it less visible but more advertising. It is dead simple.

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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?

« on: May 14, 2009, 12:26 PM »

Eóin, I believe I understand everyone` position and ideas here and I do respect them. My original point is that OC wont be a solution to developers. I know that developers`s works are greatly unappreciated, they do not get back what they were hoping. So in that sense OC might offer little bandage to couple developers but it is not a solution and I believe it will turn into obnoxious insane ad medium.

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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?

« on: May 14, 2009, 10:51 AM »

Well I gotta say this is all rather above board to me. Ads are everywhere, I see no real difference between an ad in the installer and one on the download page.

-Eóin (May 14, 2009, 03:24 AM)

Well if they like to promote free software, they can start a web page that promotes free applications and they can show whatever ads recommendation they want on the web sites instead of installers. They seem to have manpower, money and ideas to start such thing. But why are they choosing this particular method? Have you thought about it? Do  you think they just like public service?

 
Showing banners, suggestions, installing toolbars via installers is no different than my postman wearing clothes with banners(like those race car drivers) and trying to break into my house to stick some advertisement inside my house everytime he brings my mail. And yes I do have a problem with that.  Because an installer can be cryptic and be dangerous there is no way for a simple user to know all the nitty gritties of what is going on behind an installing session.

I also don't quite see Kartals position on installers, if the developer chooses to use OpenCandy even when an archive would have sufficed for distribution then that is the developers choice. I don't see where the issue with OpenCandy. Kartal you seem to be suggesting that that there is something inherently wrong in advertising in general. You also seem to be using the words spam and ads interchangeably which they certainly are not.

-Eóin (May 14, 2009, 03:24 AM)

Do not get me wrong please but you do not seem to think ahead much here. Right, it is ok for now but I was predicting future. More and more developers might choose these bogus methods to make couple bucks.

Eóin, I try to live an ad free life, to me %98 of ads on the planet  are obnoxious and waste of resources in my personal view, And spam is a way of delivering those obnoxious ads. Because ads are everywhere does not make "ads everywhere" a justified issue. Ads are everywhere because many people figured out "bogus" ways to make money, like putting banners on highway, buildings, times square, and noone questioned their acts. You know why economy is in peril? Some people figured out even more bogus ways to make money and no one scrutinized them. And that is I am doing here. If everyone was like you, anyone could get away with anything in year 2009. There is nothing wrong with being critical and asking serious questions about integrity of those who might make benefits from other people`s hard work.  I personally  do not see OC`s way of benefiting developers is being any more real than those ninja loans that benefitted those who taken those ninja loans(banking failures). In the long run developers will loose their dedicated users.


drapps has given Startup Manager as an example. I uninstalled otherday because it came with OC. I thought that tool was working without an installer. One day I tried to open it and it did not so that forced me to check the website for a new version. That is when I saw the new version with OC.