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General Software Discussion / Re: post your 5 most used applications in 2007 here!
« on: January 01, 2008, 02:57 AM »
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: XYplorer File Manager
« on: November 20, 2007, 01:13 AM »
I did write: "There are many other file managers available which are more suitable for visually and mouse oriented users".
-luc (November 19, 2007, 07:03 PM)

I think I am a very visually and mouse oriented user and I really have no problems with XYplorer. I do nearly all my file operations with the mouse and only use Keyboard Shortcuts when they are really useful.

But you are absolutely right, the first time with XYplorer is not an easy one. Before I installed XY I worked with other file managers like SpeedCommander, DirectoryOpus and TotalCommander for years. All of them are dual pane file managers and all of them are so much better than WindowsExplorer. So it was just natural that I developed a antipathy for single pane file managers.

The first time I started XY I automatically associated that it has to be a product of poor quality which would not excel WindowsExplorer. I didn't use XY for two weeks but then - I don't know why - I gave it another chance, read the Wiki, read the Tutorial and discovered so many interesting things. The support is the best one I ever saw and Don adds new features at a pace which is really impressive.

Personally I don't miss dual pane and I don't need it in my everyday work. If I really need to visually compare two folders I open a second instance of XY or use a specialized tool. But I can understand that a lot of users would prefer to work the same way they are used to.

Some people are happy with apples only and some with oranges only - and some would prefer to have both.
-luc (November 19, 2007, 07:03 PM)

Yes, that's why I don't know if it is really a good idea to make the apple (XYplorer) look more like an orange. If I prefer DP there are so many great file managers out there but if I want a good single pane file manager there is only XYplorer. If Don can find a way to implement "both worlds" without sacrificing the things which make XY so special then all users (SP and DP fans) would be happy. But I think that's not an easy task...

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: XYplorer File Manager
« on: November 20, 2007, 12:29 AM »
Sometimes the small details can be so nice - and there's so many really nice features here in the first couple of minutes..

looking forward to getting to know better :-*
-tomos (November 19, 2007, 05:36 PM)

Yes, the small details and the big advantages like: great usability, active development, fantastic user forum, no extra payment for dual install, portability, no changes in the registry, and and and...

A good place for new users to start is the Support Site (http://xyplorer.com/support.htm) with a lot of great sources of knowledge:the XY Tutorial, the wonderful XYwiki, the Cheat Sheets and - of course - the user forum.

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: XYplorer File Manager
« on: November 19, 2007, 03:07 AM »
>>I think 3 out of 5 stars isn't really a hate review
[...]I just felt that this particular case was mainly motivated by the frustration about the lack of a particular "feature". [...] So what Luc is saying is: "This apple has a severe problem: it does not taste like an orange."
-DonL (November 19, 2007, 02:33 AM)

Yes, I see your point there.

I put feature in quotes because DP is a whole different approach to file management, not just a feature. It's not just about adding a 2nd pane.
-DonL (November 19, 2007, 02:33 AM)

You are absolutely right, DP is far more than a feature, it's a different concept. The question is: Can it be implemented without destroying the present XYperience? Will XYplorer with DP (even if it is optional there have to be so many changes throughout the program) just be another clone as all the other file managers? It's a difficult design question...there could be much more destroyed than achieved.

I have many paying customers and many contributing users in the forum, and they all are pretty happy with XY for a long time. Hey, this app is not just good, it is successful! :)
-DonL (November 19, 2007, 02:33 AM)
Pretty happy? That's more than an understatement, I love this application!  :-*

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: XYplorer File Manager
« on: November 18, 2007, 03:25 PM »
Thanks for the hate review at snapfiles. It won't increase the chance for DP in XY, but you probably feel better now. ;)
(If you are not luc0815: ignore this post.)
-DonL (November 18, 2007, 11:00 AM)
I think 3 out of 5 stars isn't really a hate review. You know, tastes differ...and some guys just prefer Dual Pane. :huh:

Some time ago I couldn't imagine to use a single pane file manager. I was very happy with SpeedCommander and DirectoryOpus.

But now I can't imagine to use anything apart from XYplorer to manage my files. Yes, it must be this Zen thing.  :D

I also think you shouldn't implement a feature you don't like yourself, Don. The special thing about XYplorer is, that everyone who reads your forum can see at once, that you want to create a masterpiece. You only add features when you are convinced that they really improve XYplorer without bloating it.

Earning money is important (and DP would very likely bring more registrations), yes, but in the end it's mostly better to remain true to one's principles. To try to make all people happy is very rarely a good thing. If you keep on improving XYplorer more and more users will realize that DP may be a nice additional feature but it isn't something you can't life without.

But if you - some day - think that DP really would improve the XYperience (there may be these rare occasions when it is handy to compare folders visually) and you find a way to integrate it, it would mean that DP isn't implemented because it is requested but because it really is a feature to make XYplorer even better. :Thmbsup:

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