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Living Room / New SSd in an aging PC
« on: November 23, 2018, 05:44 AM »
Built my PC approximately 4 years ago and I'm just now getting around to adding an SSD to boot it.

I thought about installing a 500 GB SSD and cloning my C: drive, which is over 3.8 gigs full. But then I started thinking that I should be able to save money, buy a smaller SSD and download Windows 10 to the new drive because Microsoft uses the motherboard's model number and serial number as a reference for the product ID (I originally upgraded from Windows 7 Pro to 10 Pro).

Am I correct in thinking that?

So, my plan is to buy a 250 GB SATA SSD, dedicated to nothing but booting the OS and a few programs. Currently, I have 3 internal mechanical HDD's that store over 100 Steam games and years worth of pictures, videos and documents.

I'm thinking of buying this drive. Thoughts? Suggestions? Care to berate me for waiting so long to modernize my PC? (I have thick skin, so fire away).

Specs:

• Motherboard: Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3

• CPU: Intel i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz

• OS: Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

• GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series

• RAM: 8 GB

• PSU: 650W

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Living Room / Re: Building Another Budget Gaming PC...
« on: June 17, 2014, 06:37 PM »
Well then, you can stop calling this a "budget" build -- it's a proper gaming rig.

You see?  I knew I'd end up embarrassing myself.

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Living Room / Re: Building Another Budget Gaming PC...
« on: June 17, 2014, 06:16 PM »
There's nothing really "budget" about your build, except to the extent that it doesn't include an SSD -- that's the only thing that many non-budget pcs are shipping with these days.  It's definitely not needed, but the speed improvement would be noticed.  If you got one, you'd want to get one in ADDITION to your 2tb hard drive, not instead of.  Might be something worth considering.

As for keyboard and mouse, I'm a bit fan of wireless mice and I wouldn't let any of the corded mouse lovers on this forum convince you to buy a corded mouse  ;)

Corded keyboard and cordless mouse (with a long-living and easy to change battery) is the way i would go.  Just make sure they have good reviews and you'll be fine.

Yeah, I didn't mention that he had already bought a SSD a while back, in anticipation for the build, so it'll be the boot drive and the HDD will be there for general storage.

A corded keyboard and cordless mouse setup makes sense.  Thanks, mouser!

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Living Room / Re: Building Another Budget Gaming PC...
« on: June 17, 2014, 05:59 PM »
I think your CPU spec is especially spot on. The i5 3570 is a great chip for the money. In fact, it's a great chip period:Thmbsup:

That's great to hear.  Thanks!

I'm always curious about cases - was there a reason you chose this one (used before, or was it just the reviews/price)?
-tomos

When I built my PC, Carol suggested I use the Antec 300, which has turned out to be my all-time favorite case for the price.  I was able to find the One on sale for $50 so I opted for it.

Looks pretty darn nice to me.  As for the crossfire, i wouldn't give it a second thought.
Does he need keyboard, mouse, printer, speakers?
-mouser

Hey mouser!  Yes, he will still need a keyboard and mouse and speakers.  I'm thinking of one of those wireless keyboard/mice combo's if anybody can let me know if they're worth it or not.  We don't want to spend hundreds on a fancy gaming keyboard and mouse.

If you're really concerned about crossfire:
http://www.tigerdirect.co...str=ClickCP&rrindex=1

But I wouldn't worry about it.  At one time, I was concerned... but I never ended up getting the second video card... and by the time I upgraded, the cards were always old and better served by just getting a better card.  And there are problems with crossfire support being in games, and concerns over the increased load of the additional card.  There are upsides, but I haven't missed it.

Not sure on the size of that Antec One case, but with my video card, there was barely clearance in my Antec 900 case, and I had to remove the HDD cage fan to get mine to fit.  Another thing to keep in mind.
-wraith808

You know, after reading your post, I started considering just buying 2 of the same GPU as yours and Crossfire them.  However, I'd have to then spend more on a 1000+ watt PSU and I don't really want to have any overheating problems or trouble with software not wanting to work right with Crossfire, so I think I'll just stick with what I've got.  I'm by brother's tech-support and I sure don't want to make my job any harder.   8)  And I can understand what you mean about upgrading later.  I'm in the same position with the PC I built for myself--my single GPU is doing just fine for me and the system just turned 2-years-old in April.

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Living Room / Building Another Budget Gaming PC...
« on: June 17, 2014, 12:47 AM »
...and I hope I don't embarrass myself as much as I did last time.   :-[

A few years ago, with the great help of a bunch of people here, I built a quality i5 Sandy Bridge based PC that still rocks today.

Now, my brother wants me to build him a budget gaming PC and here's what I've got, so far:

AOC 27" monitor

Antec One case

Gigabyte H77 motherboard

i5 3570 CPU

Corsair Vengeance 8GB RAM

Radeon R7 260X GPU

Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD

LG 24X DVD burner

Corsair 600W PSU

My brother has about a $1200 budget and this is what I've thrown together, so far.  One thing I am aware of is that the motherboard supports Crossfire but the video card doesn't appear to be Crossfire ready.  Is that a problem? 

Everyone feel free to critique, streamline or tell me to completely toss everything out and start completely over.

Thanks for the help.

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: April 22, 2012, 12:51 AM »
That's what I usually get...wait, I think I got that the wrong way round.

Click the Activate now link, select Activate online now and then enter the key.
 (see attachment in previous post)
Sorry, the Change Product link if for you buy an Upgrade to Professional or Ultimate - you just enter the key and the requisite features are enabled.

It will go into trial mode which lasts for 30 days, after that time you have to activate it, remove it or rearm.

As you can see from the pic above, there's 22 days left to activate, (WHS 2011), when it gets close to 0 days I can enter the following at a CLI prompt, (assuming I haven't bought it by then):

slmgr.vbs –rearm

After reboot, I'll have another 30 days grace period - I can do this 3 times for a total of 120 days activation grace period.

Oh, haha...well, somehow I read "change product key" and it completely left my brain, so I did do the activate now.

Thanks for the help and I'll try it again.  If I'm unsuccessful, I'll call Microsoft tomorrow morning.

I just found this.  I wonder if it really works.

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: April 21, 2012, 11:50 PM »
Do I have to install the 32 bit first?
-MilesOhToole (April 21, 2012, 07:15 AM)

No.

Install went fine, but when I tried to type in the registration key, it was denied...twice.

Right-click Computer->Properties->Change Product Key

Enter your key there and it should register just fine - I have to do the same thing because I'm using an "upgrade" DVD to do a scratch install.

As a side note to your build, I picked up the February issue of Australian PC User from the local library the other day and they had a feature on upgrades:
Intel Core i5-2500K (PCUser Best Buy) - Comparing it to an i7-2700K:- Only until they overclocked the i7 to 4.4GHz was it able to get ahead of the i5 @ 4.4GHz in their benchmarks - that's got to say something about the sheer grunt the i5 has.
As they put it:
Ask yourself which do you want: 5% more speed or AU$140 in your pocket?

Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (PCUser Best Buy)
Radeon HD6850 or HD6870 - Best cards under AU$200

Well, I did what you said and now it's coming up with "The Software Licensing Service determined this key is...for upgrading, not clean installation."

I just double-checked and, yep, I only have that one key.  And microsoft store is closed right now, of course.  I have 2 more days left.

Edited above.  Actually, it says 2 more days before automatic activation.  So, will it automatically activate without me having to do anything?  I don't really understand that.

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: April 21, 2012, 07:15 AM »
OK, guys...I'm now 8 hours into my PC build and officially exhausted.  I've got to sleep right after this post.

And sorry I haven't been active here, lately.  I've worked 6 days, straight with a 12-hour shift thrown in to make sure I have no life, whatsoever.

So, after hours of pouring over various manuals and research on the internet, I was finally finished with the PC, all except for the video card.  I left that for last, just so I could see if the system would POST and all that.

I really had my doubts.  I expected a complete failure, as I'm so exhausted from such a long day and stayed up WAY past my bedtime.  (Luckily, I'm off tomorrow).

So, my PC works, as far as I know, since it did POST and I was able to install Windows 7 Pro 64.  I don't know about the front-side USB and audio yet...no time to test it.

I have a question, though.  Like I said earlier, I bought Windows 7 at a discounted price since my wife is in college.  They mailed me 2 discs, one labeled Windows 7 Professional 32 Bit and another, Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit Upgrade.

Do I have to install the 32 bit first?  Because I skipped that one and went straight for the 64 Bit one, instead.  Install went fine, but when I tried to type in the registration key, it was denied...twice. The registration key was emailed to my wife's college address from Microsoft.  Of course, I was able to finish install, but why isn't the key working?  And, I only have one key, not like I have one for both versions.  Oh, and they failed to give me Office 2010.  I only have a download available for Windows and they sent a backup copy on disc, free of charge.  I'm not even going to bother with that.  I'll download OpenOffice, instead.

I took various pictures of the build that I'll upload later.  I really thought I would be able to do some clever cable management, but that thing is a mess.  Cables just don't seem to be long enough to reroute and it's eSpaghetti, in there.  Probably my fault, as it's my first build and not understanding what should go where, first, and what will get in the way of the other thing.

Hey, at least (so far) I plugged the right cables into the right hardware and it's actually working!!!

Thanks to all of you for helping!

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Living Room / Re: More YouTube Censorship
« on: April 11, 2012, 10:30 PM »
At first I thought this was someone's idea of a cruel joke and threw a wig on Stephen Hawking.

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: April 11, 2012, 09:53 PM »
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Intel Z68 Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA 1155), Intel Z68 Chipset, 2133MHz DDR3, SATA 6.0 Gb/s, RAID, 7.1-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, SuperSpeed USB 3.0, CrossFireX/SLI Ready

Pretty much the same specs for $149.99, (less with rebate) - has onboard gfx which won't be used, only two USB3 ports, (but eight USB2 ports), no PCIe x4/x8 slots but unless you're going to plug in a RAID, USB3 or SATA6 card, (which can also fit in the extra PCIe x16 slot), it's unlikely you'll need them.

Thanks!  I've put the order in, along with a 1.5 TB HDD that I'll end up using for secondary storage after I RMA my failed 500 GB Seagate drive.  I'm now wondering if that 5900 RPM will simply annoy me at the end of the day, though.

Also, a few years ago (maybe 3) I had my heatsink separate from the CPU and bought some Arctic Silver 5 to fix it.  Is is still good to use or should I buy more thermal paste?

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Living Room / Help With a Graphics Problem for Charity
« on: April 10, 2012, 04:41 AM »
I have a co-worker, who's 6-year-old nephew was diagnosed with Histocytosis, a rare disease that doctors can only try to treat as a type of cancer.

He's on chemo and limited radiation and the doctors and scientist know little about his ailment.

She wants to make wrist bands or necklaces on a 1X1 inch of wood, with a dark blue ribbon and sell them, with all proceeds going to the awareness of this rare childhood disease.  You might have seen her, as the Today Show promoted the cause, a few months back in New York.

She asked me to help, even though I know very little about graphic design, so I thought I'd pass this to you.

She needs a dark blue ribbon (as she compares it, Cookie Monster Blue) on a white background.

I thought I was pretty smart and downloaded a blue ribbon and loaded it up on Paint.Net.  For some reason, it's printing a black ribbon.  Otherwise, under every other basic program, it has a black background.  I dunno.

Can somebody just make the ribbon print out as "Cookie Monster" blue and the background white?

I've attached a Paint.net source.

Thanks, in advance.



Thank you and I appreciate your help in the awareness of a rare disease that's affecting these small children.

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: April 10, 2012, 03:57 AM »
Well, I placed my order but the guy at Global said the Gigabyte motherboard was discontinued.  Sure enough, I can't find it at Newegg or Tigerdirect, either, but at this time, I'm seeing it provided as a refurbished unit at http://www.globalcom...55964&CatId=6975

Should I buy that refurbished Mobo (at the same price as the new original mobo, I might add) or is there something else that's equivalent that I should get?   

As a side-note, I got Windows 7 64-bit Professional for $68 and Office 2010 for free, no shipping cost.  I won't bore you with the details but it was quite stressful and it involved my wife (the college student) accusing me of being reckless with our credit card, online, and thinking we got scammed.   My wife was extremely upset and called the toll-free number and the supervisor at Microsoft Store showed some real sympathy for her and ultimately we were the fortunate party.  I'll elaborate if anyone's interested.  In the end, I'll have to congratulate Microsoft for their customer support.  It was an adventure for a few hours, that's for sure.

I also received my Antec case, through Amazon.  That thing is amazing!  I might set up my tent and sleep in it tonight.

Thanks, everyone!

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: April 03, 2012, 01:48 PM »
For good up to date information about processors, go to http://www.cpubenchm...t/high_end_cpus.html

For the money, the Intel Core i7-2700K @ 3.50GHz is a very good performer.

I just built a system using AMD FX-8120 Eight-Core on an ASUS M5A786-M/USB3 motherboard with 2 x 4GB DDR3 SDRAM. With the included software, it can be easily overclocked. It is not as good as the Intel I mentioned above, but I shall be passing it on in about 6 months.

Word of warning about the case - Don't get a really cheap one as everything will be more difficult to fit. Especially look for the front connectors that you will want to have.

If my budget allowed it, I'd go with an i7.  And, WOW!  $1650 for some of those processors?

So, how much did that PC cost you, if you don't mind me asking.

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: April 02, 2012, 03:26 AM »
Hey, Carol, I just ordered that case from Amazon, where I saved $27 on shipping from the link you provided.

http://www.amazon.co..._o00_s00_i00_details 

Um...that is the same case, right?  I'm looking at both pictures and it looks like the same one but the Amazon listing isn't as informative as the one you linked.

I'm pretty sure it's the same one but I'm getting a little paranoid, as my budget is shrinking fast.

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: April 01, 2012, 12:15 PM »
A 28" monitor sounds really nice.. BUT if it were me, personal preference, I'd rather have two 21" monitors.

Hey, mouser.  Yeah, I use multiple monitors (4, in fact) at work and it's really neat.  I don't think I'd really like to play games on multiple monitors, though, due to the slight separation between them.

By the way, do you think you'll be able to get donations through Amazon shortly?  If not, I'll just mail you a check.

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: April 01, 2012, 11:48 AM »
OK, I hear you guys.

How about this monitor?  Oh, and a link in case that one doesn't open for our friends across the pond here.

I have never heard of I-Inc but most of the online reviews I've seen are positive and, as mentioned by Innuendo, it has a 16:10 aspect ratio.

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: March 30, 2012, 09:21 PM »
OK, thanks to the both of you.

One thing I went differently with was to stick to 8GB RAM.  I figure I can always add RAM later and 8GB should be plenty, into the near future. 

I'll have to wait until Monday to place my order through my employer.  Any other suggestions, until then?

I'm also thinking about this monitor, mainly due to it's 2ms response, size, price and the reviews are pretty good.  Thoughts?

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: March 29, 2012, 12:56 AM »
Thanks to both of you.  OK, check out the attachment.

Of course, I don't have a case in my shopping cart because Global doesn't have Antec cases, so I'll buy the one Carol provided the link for.  Thank you!

A few questions, though.  I want 8GB RAM.  I picked the bundled PSU with the Corsair 4GB RAM--this RAM.  Then, I have Corsair 4GB RAM--this one.  So, I'll have 3 sticks of RAM, one 4GB and 2 2GB.  I can't find the exact RAM that comes bundled with the PSU, to buy separately at the site.  I might be completely wrong, but isn't it better to have RAM that matches exactly?  Seems like I read somewhere that I should have 2 sticks of 4GB RAM, but I might be mistaken.  Maybe it's all in looking forward, to upgrading to 16GB and beyond and the available slots or something or maybe it's consistency and the PC's efficiency to manage the memory.  I honestly don't remember now.

Another thing to talk about is a sound card.  I had Global build a PC for my brother a couple of years ago, like mine, and the IT guy at work told me he didn't think sound cards were as crucial as they were a few years ago.  Keep in mind, though, that he's not a gamer.  So, I ordered my brother's computer without a sound card.  Sure enough, his computer is able to run some pretty new games.  He's not that big of a gamer either but he has Flight Sim X and Silent Hunter IV and some other fairly dated games and they run with no problem.  Is that the case, now?  Do I need to bother with a sound card or is integrated sound good enough now?

(Also, as a side-note, the price is not calculating correctly.  The PSU/RAM bundle is actually $54.99, if you look at the link, which is why I chose it (yeah, with a rebate).  If push comes to shove, I'll just order the PSU and 2 4GB sticks all separately at whatever website will give me the best price.)

Or basically whatever you guys tell me to do because I'm willing to practically give you my bank account information and let you paint the town red unless a previously unknown uncle from some obscure village in Africa dies and leaves me his diamond mine in his will or something.

Too, I'm going to need a big fat monitor and an OS and keyboard and mouse and probably a card reader and some other minor stuff, so the price will go up an estimated $250-300.  Of course, that's all not calculating the discount I'll get at Global, which won't be known until I place the order.  I think I saved about an additional $116 or so on the PC I have now.

And, remember, I don't have a HDD listed because I'll RMA my failed 500GB Seagate back for a replacement to use on this new one, plus I have a 1TB and 2TB external drive and an additional 500GB drive in the PC I'm still using, so I have plenty of storage space.

Wow.  Thanks again.  You people have made me ponder and compare/contrast and brought my IQ up more than any college education can buy.  On that thought, you should all be eligible for federal funding, IMHO.  :D

If anyone might be interested, I'll leave you with the excitement my brother and I experienced, in the pristine forest of West Virginia, making fire by rubbing two sticks together.  That's the only worthy contribution I can think of.  There's no better feeling than being able to make fire like our ancestors did (though I cheated a little, it really makes you appreciate the hardship that civilization had to endure).

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Living Room / Re: I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: March 27, 2012, 05:25 PM »
Horses for courses with graphics cards.

AMD cards support more than two screens and some games are written specifically for AMD.

For what its worth I have an AMD card and Arkham City is just fine.
-Carol Haynes (March 25, 2012, 09:59 PM)

Well, good.  I like AMD cards better, anyway.

http://www.tomshardware.c...ck,3159.html#xtor=RSS-182  ... here, just popped up NOW, so should be current.
-db90h

Thanks for the link.  I'm working on something based on that, with some changes that 4wd and Carol posted.

I had a buddy build me my custom project machine, so here are some thoughts.

1. Consider skipping 3 meals a week/haircuts/etc to boost your budget to about $1500. There's a bit of a "quality slider" effect where useful upgrades across the board are always $67 away.

Supposing you "copied" my setup from my project machine, with the passage of time my $1800 price at the time might be down a bit/ a lot.

1. I thought ahead and got the first generation Quad Core all the way back in 2006. You're right, Dual is for Dogs now. (Though not all programs can find the spare resources properly.)

2. Check with your buddies/the net about the types of little components that tend to fail when Dell / etc skimps on quality. My message is all about the $67 upgrade effect to get more/better years out of the comp beast. (You said you wanted to game, right? That says you'll be pushing the limits for hours, so you don't want an "office-spec'ed" comp where the maker cheats and banks on worker bees only typing text all day long. Get a better fan, better internals, etc.)

3. It's the Media Age, and Media is Big. I got 1.75 Terabytes of storage. It works pretty well for me to put all the apps on C: and use the spare drive for media sorting.

4. Misc upgrades. For your gaming, does it make sense to get a Graphics booster of some kind? As an example, I realized I like to do a lot of sound file encoding, so I had a special extra data encoding mini-chip added to my setup that almost doubles stock encoding speeds.
-TaoPhoenix

Good advice!  Thanks.

OK, here's basically what I have, so far.  Critique away and any comments are very welcome.

Click Here

I couldn't find anything in the barebones section that matched what I wanted, so I started from scratch.

And, am I correct in thinking that I'll need USB with that case?  I assume a case comes with nothing other than fans.  I also have a feeling someone is going to tell me I'm doing this all wrong...  :D


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Living Room / I'm Going to Build a PC. Suggestions?
« on: March 25, 2012, 09:42 PM »
Hey everyone!  It's been a while since my last post but I've occasionally lurked around.  Matter of fact, last time I posted, you guys helped me buy my dream PC.  Here's that thread.

I had that PC built for me but I've learned quite a bit since then and want to build my own this time.

As last time, I'm going to be buying (nearly) all my parts from Global Computer, since I'll get a discount from ordering through my employer.

First thoughts and opinions/suggestions are quite welcome:

*I think I'm going to go with a quad core processor, thinking dual-core will soon be as obsolete as single-core.

*I have a crashed 500 GB Seagate HDD that I will send back for a replacement, under warranty, saving money.  I laugh at the HDD shortage of 2012!

*My wife is in college and I'm going to try to buy a student discounted version of Windows 7 Professional 64bit.  I don't know how that works, as of yet.

*I want a fairly competent gaming PC.  If my PC can run games reasonably well, I figure it can do darn near anything else with ease.  Plus, I like games!

*I have an approximate budget of $1000.00.

I know all that is still pretty vague.  Basically, I'm wanting a gaming PC for $1000 and I want to build it, not only to save money but for the learning experience.

One other thing I learned from my subscription to MaximumPC is that the AMD GPU's doesn't support PhysX that's included in cool games like Batman:  Arkham City.  So, I guess I'll go with nVidia.

Any preliminary suggestions?

Thanks to the wonderful folks who helped me buy my current PC.  I can't believe it's been six whole years ago!  Other than a few HDD failures (and a replaced PSU, which I suspected as the culprit) it continues to be a wonderful machine.

Thanks to Mouser for a wonderful site.  By the way, I still have that PM you sent me to donate to your site.  I apologize for never getting around to it.  It will be done shortly, I promise.

Thanks, everyone.

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Screenshot Captor / Re: Problem with IL2 (Flight Sim) Screenshots
« on: October 28, 2007, 03:44 PM »
Ah.  Thanks, mouser.  I really love Screenshot Captor, nonetheless. 

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Screenshot Captor / Problem with IL2 (Flight Sim) Screenshots
« on: October 28, 2007, 03:03 PM »
Hello everyone.  I fly online with a group of gentlemen (and a lady) with IL2:  1946.  We fly our missions and, once the mission is over, have to provide screenshots.  If this is confusing to you, check out our mission reports page and you'll see what I'm talking about. 

The game has a built-in recorder that I use to replay the mission and take shots at different angles.  Also, the game, itself, has a built-in screenshot taker that keeps all the screenshots in the root directory.  I prefer to use screenshot captor, though, because I can have it put all my shots in a folder of my choice.

The problem is that lately, a number of screenshots have been corrupted (possibly).  I'll take a screenshot of myself blowing the wing off an enemy plane, but when I exit the game and look at the shots, some of them show an empty sky and the ground...no planes at all in the air.

I'm not sure if this is a problem with screenshot captor or a problem with the game, itself.  One question, though.  Do you think I should pause the mission track, take the screenshot, and wait a few seconds before un-pausing the game?

Any suggestions?

EDIT:  I have v2.32.02 of Screenshot Captor.

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Living Room / Re: Windows XP Pro and SP2
« on: October 27, 2006, 03:41 PM »
Downloading now.  Appreciate all your help, Josh.  I'll let you know how it goes.

 :Thmbsup:

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Living Room / Re: Windows XP Pro and SP2
« on: October 27, 2006, 03:16 PM »
Click Start  and then right click on My Computer > Properties (or Control Panel > System > Properties) and the General Tab tells you which services pack is installed.

Oh, OK.  Here it is...

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3716/xpsd1.png


Josh, IIRC it was around 75MB.  I'm going through Microsoft's Windows update.  When I try to continue the installation, it's showing the file has been downloaded and just awaiting install.  

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Living Room / Re: Windows XP Pro and SP2
« on: October 27, 2006, 02:42 PM »
Sure.  Here ya go:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1220/xpnz1.jpg

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