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ProcessTamer / Re: support windows 2003 or not?

« on: October 11, 2006, 06:30 PM »

I run PT on Windows 2003 and it works fine.
Thanks
Ben

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ProcessTamer / Have different Force levels if different users are running a process

« on: October 11, 2006, 06:30 PM »

I run Process Tamer on my web and mail server as I have a lot going on on my 450mhz server!

I run it as a service so that it has control over all apps even those which are services them selves and running as SYSTEM.
One of the things I want is for PT to keep certain parts of the server available where as others can be pushed right down to the bottom of priority and can just wait. I have perl.exe which runs on three different occasions. One it runs as SYSTEM and I want it to go to below normal priority. One it runs as Administrator and I want it to run on Low priority, and one it runs as the Internet User and I want that to have Above normal Priority.

Is this something you might be able to create functionality for? As it is I can only set one rule, which means I just have to decide which one is best over all.

Thanks
Ben

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ProcessTamer / Processes running as IUSR_SERVER

« on: May 01, 2005, 03:58 PM »

Has anyone discovered how to get Process Tamer to be able to control processes which are run by the IUSR_SERVER user which is the anonymous internet user. I have processtamer running as a system service, so under the SYSTEM user, which i would have thought would be able to change the priority of those processes, as it is able to change the priority of processes running as Administrator.

PT is running as SYSTEM, and works well with other processes running as SYSTEM. If a process is running as ADMINISTRATOR its process priority is modified initially, but if it gets changed for whatever reason, it is not automatically reset to the priority PT is meant to force it to. Is there a reason for this? With processes running as SYSTEM, if their priority is manually changed, PT will automatically force it back to the set priority.

I am also unclear as to whether it is meant to be able to alter the priority of processes running as NETWORK SERVICE.

Any thoughts on any of these?

Cheers,
Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 17, 2005, 09:17 AM »

At what stage is the "Force xxx" meant to kick in? If i run it, it will force everything to be as set, but if it is already running and a program is launced, it doesn't seem to force it to be any particular priority as far as i can tell.

Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 17, 2005, 08:12 AM »

I think this might be what is happening, when a php page is viewed it seems to open up a lot of php processes which could cause this. The high cpu of PT is not sustained.

The php.exe doesn't show up in PT as it is being run by IUSR_SERVER which i don't think PT seems able to control.

Cheers,
Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 16, 2005, 09:03 PM »

Here you go - you can see php.exe set to ignore, and CPU usage by PT up to 6%

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 16, 2005, 07:59 PM »

The setup i am running is basically an awful lot for the hardware i have and perhaps this might be causing the high cpu usage. This is only a 450 MHz machine running many processes. I don't know how PT works, but if it is running a lot of processes presumably it will use a lot of cpu and as the total cpu available is small, the total amount it will use is likely to be larger in proportion.

Normally it is pretty stable at 0 or 1%, sometimes going to 2%. The times when i have seen it go higher are when someone is viewing a php page and there is a lot of work for it to do. PT cpu usage goes high, even if i have set a specific rule to ignore php.exe as far as i can see.

Running PT as a service does solve the perl.exe problem, as it can now change the priority of processes running as SYSTEM or Administrator. It still fails to change php.exe running under IUSR_SERVER, but i wouldn't know where to begin to find out how i might overcome this, except by changing the user which is used for people viewing web pages, which for security reasons i wouldn't do.

Thanks again for your help,

Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 16, 2005, 11:49 AM »

Perhaps it is an issue of what user it is running as.

php.exe seems to be running as INET_USR because ... it's a website, perl is running as SYSTEM because it is being triggered by my mailserver running as system. I'm logged on as administrator. Does the Administrator not get to change the priority of those applications being run by another user? Perhaps that will help you work out why it's not working for these things.

Thanks
Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 16, 2005, 10:42 AM »

I've taken screen shots of TaskManager and ProcessTamer in the same window. I've also got a second image showing the error message i get when trying to reduce the priority manually.

It's not actually using 40% at the time, in fact the second image shows four different processes using a fairly low cpu, but either way, ProcessTamer doesn't seem to access it.

Thanks,
Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 16, 2005, 10:09 AM »

Yes i realise that - php is running on at least 40% so it should be in there anyway. Both with the 1% box ticked and not, php.exe is in Task Manager, but not in the Process Tamer GUI...

Who knows what's going on ;-)    ?

Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 16, 2005, 10:01 AM »

I haven't been able to test perl.exe, but php.exe when in the Task Manager and i try to change the priority it says i can't as i described at the beginning of this post. In the Process Tamer GUI it doesn't appear at all.

I don't really know anything about how this works so don't know what this could mean...

Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 16, 2005, 08:18 AM »

Cheers. As it is a nice piece of software and it make my personal server more stable, i've made a donation. My paypal email isn't the same as my donation coder one, but hopefully you'll be able to match up the domain name. When my account has been memberised i'll download and try PT2.

Cheers,
Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 16, 2005, 06:44 AM »

I've done a bit of testing, and it doen't do it all the time, and it can change the priority of perl.exe sometimes. I run a mail, web, and lots of other things on a low end server (stupid, i know!) and i'm using process tamer to stabilise it a bit, and it's doing a good job - thanks!

The mailserver is using spamassassin to filter out spam and at midnight every day, it learns the days spam and genuine emails to its bayes database. This is done using perl, and i am unable the change the priority of this process and this is what Process Tamer also seems unable to do.

I only have the free version at the moment, so no gui, but i guess that it will also fail.

There must be something in the perl script which causes it to happen, but as i didn't write the script, i don't know!

Oh well, thanks for a nice program.

Ben

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ProcessTamer / Re: perl.exe

« on: April 11, 2005, 06:14 AM »

I can change the priority of most processes, but with some it gives me this error when i try:
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Unable to Change Priority
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The operation could not be completed.

Access is denied.

I am using win 2k3 and logged on as administrator.

I get the same error when trying to change php.exe


Thanks
Ben

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ProcessTamer / perl.exe

« on: April 11, 2005, 05:50 AM »

Process tamer doesn't appear to change the priority of perl.exe when it runs. However, i can't do it manually either. Does anyone know why i can't do it at the moment, and whether there is some way to enable processtamer to successfully change the priority of perl.exe.

Thanks
Ben