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Other Software => Found Deals and Discounts => Topic started by: Curt on March 24, 2010, 06:15 PM
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Think of it as a joke -- I mean, me posting this in the thread "deals and discounts" -- but the brand new CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X5 is supposedly on campaign offer in Europe!
Why is this a joke, you may ask. It is a joke because the Europeen price I was offered is TWICE the American price!
Have a look, and wonder>
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Corel Comic Book!!!
(One pdf in two halves; 5+4 pages)
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Don't you appreciate it when some body tries to rip you off ?
Seems like a good pricing policy to drive potential Corel customers away though.
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Maybe the euro is at a 1:2 parity with the dollar and we don't know it. Not even the European Central Bank does not know it, only Corel knows it.
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this is just a typical rip-off of European customers.
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hm, yeah, wherez the crooks
who's getting richer
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Americans and Brits my be speaking the same language, more or less, but England is part of Europe, and therefore must pay the price; more rather than less...
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They are still funny, those guys at Corel's. Today I have been offered to purchase a license for this CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X5 for € 718.80 including a "free" Powerstick worth € 40. When I went to the program's homepage, I was offered to have X5 without the Powerstick for € 634.80 !!!
You do the math. I can't.
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809 in my dollars :o
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I think Corel work on the principle that if it is really expensive it must be good.
Personally I refuse to buy anything from Corel anymore - they used to be good but now everything they produce is full of bugs which never get fixed.
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They are still funny, those guys at Corel's. Today I have been offered to purchase a license for this CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X5 for € 718.80 including a "free" Powerstick worth € 40. When I went to the program's homepage, I was offered to have X5 without the Powerstick for € 634.80 !!!
You do the math. I can't.
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-Curt
Tell them you'll take a copy without 15 power sticks!
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The joke goes on, but now Americans must pay a little extra ($10) not to get PC Tune-Up. I think that is okay, because I tried it, and it sucks. I might just pay not to have it, because I have had it! (ehh?)
euroland with extra extras (normal price):
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dollarland without any extras (normal price plus $10):
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Corel draw doesnt get good press (see Carol's post above)
I did read somewhere lately (c't magazine) that Corel is still used professionally (only) by designers of cutouts (? "schnittvorlagen") for signs, t-shirts & car-signage.
At that price anyway it seems like Xara would be a better option for most users...
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I have Xara, and I will not recommend it.
Besides, Xara was Corel was Xara; they are siblings / cousins.
Next stop: Adobe!
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I have Xara, and I will not recommend it.
Besides, Xara was Corel was Xara; they are siblings / cousins.
Next stop: Adobe!
-Curt
have fun... ;)
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I have Xara, and I will not recommend it.
-Curt
I dont have it but I'm curious - why do you not recommend it (maybe you've said elsewhere?)
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I have Xara, and I will not recommend it.
Besides, Xara was Corel was Xara; they are siblings / cousins.
Next stop: Adobe!
-Curt
Xara was never Corel - they briefly marketed it but development has always been with the same UK company.
Boring history lesson:
Computer Concepts (UK company) developed brilliant software for the Acorn Archimedes/RiscOS computers back in the 80s.
One flagship product was ArtWorks which was later redeveloped for the PC as Xara (I bought the original and have been upgrading ever since).
Xara products have been produced by the same UK company ever since (from the same premises).
They briefly allowed Corel to sell the product (big mistake - but it was brief and Corel never got the opportunity to screw it up).
Now Xara is owned by Magix in Genrmany - but Xara still exists and you can buy Xara or Magix versions of the products - they are all still produced by the same developers in the UK.
I know some people have had problems getting off their mailing list but that doesn't detract from the fact that the sofwtare is brilliant - comparable in terms of functionality - with Adobe Illustrator but much faster in use and has features beyond what illustrator can do - you can even construct whole websites and flash animations in minutes.
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Man, Carol has been raving about Xara for years. I'm going to have to check it out. So it really gives Adobe products a run for their money?
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It sounds like what CorelDraw was meant to do... have you used CD?
I'm presuming that you'd recommend Xara over CD?
I have PhotoImpact, which is not dissimilar, but was bought by Corel some time ago and then discontinued with nothing really to replace it (except their expensive flagship product or the budget (but still very good I hear) product)... and I've been wondering about a replacement at times when I think I want something newer ;)
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I'd recommend Xara over Corel anything (even if it is unrelated to drawing).
I no longer buy any Corel products although I do own Corel Draw 8 (probably the last good version) and Corel Painter 9.5 (not the best version but at least it works unlike the newer versions if you believe all the bad comments).
I also had Corel Linux (never did get it to install at all - and Corel hadn't got a clue)
Intervideo WinDVD (now bought out by Corel - so I won't be upgrading that ever again)
KPT photoshop plugins (from the days when they were actually supported)
Paintshop Pro (but can't see any point in any of the versions since JASC sold out).
Is there a pattern emerging here? Corel seems to be to graphics what Symantec is to security - the place where good software goes to die!
For drawing applications I have Corel Draw 8, Adobe Illustrator CS3 and Xara Designer Pro 6.
If I want to draw something I naturally gravitate towards Xara because it is quicker to use (onscreen rendering is instant unlike AI) , there are excellent video tutorials and a good manual plus a very active community with tutorials. The whole thing is more intuitive than AI (at least to me). You can even do some bitmap editing (including photoshop plugin compatibility) and generate quick Flash animations. I don't use it but there is a very comprehensive WYSIWYG web designer buit in with loads of templates to get you going. It also comes with loads of fonts, clipart etc.
My only negative comment is that I really don't like the new colour scheme in version 6 - which seems to have been changed (too late) to make it fit in with Vista colour schemes - personally I thing the old colour scheme is clearer and more pleasant (perhaps they can be persuaded to include a skinning or theme function in version 7).
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Carol, I have a wacom tablet. I know most artists who use the wacom do their work on photoshop. but if I want to do mostly pencil-type sketches, would it be better from a workflow standpoint to do it on Xara or photoshop? When I first got into it, I wanted to use Illustrator for sketching because of the vectors being lossless and all. However, the big problem with Illustrator vs. Photoshop is the selection features. In PS, the fundamental powerful feature is being able to select all different kinds of things (funky shaped areas, colors, etc.). In Illustrator, it's not really meant for that. I find Illustrator is more meant for crisp kind of graphics, with well defined borders and sections. Photoshop is more "messy" and more drawing-like.
Anyway, I guess I'm wondering about Xara's capabilties as a artist's sketching tool vs. the Adobe products. All we ever hear about is Adobe and sometimes Painter. Not many people talk about Xara's capabilties.
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thanks, Carol, you've made me realize that I really NEED to watch those Xara tutorials...
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Anyway, I guess I'm wondering about Xara's capabilties as a artist's sketching tool vs. the Adobe products. All we ever hear about is Adobe and sometimes Painter. Not many people talk about Xara's capabilties.
-superboyac
Best I can suggest is download the trial version and give it a go. If you like it and want to buy a copy let me know and I will send you my affiliate link (which I only have because I added it to my website so I thought I may as well benefit from sales).
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Anyway, I guess I'm wondering about Xara's capabilties as a artist's sketching tool vs. the Adobe products. All we ever hear about is Adobe and sometimes Painter. Not many people talk about Xara's capabilties.
-superboyac
Best I can suggest is download the trial version and give it a go. If you like it and want to buy a copy let me know and I will send you my affiliate link (which I only have because I added it to my website so I thought I may as well benefit from sales).
-Carol Haynes
Thanks, I'll do that.
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My only negative comment is that I really don't like the new colour scheme in version 6 - which seems to have been changed (too late) to make it fit in with Vista colour schemes - personally I thing the old colour scheme is clearer and more pleasant (perhaps they can be persuaded to include a skinning or theme function in version 7).
-Carol Haynes
Carol - there's a hack that enables the old colour scheme... Now, if only I could remember it! I'll dig around and post it (found it in the Xara forums when 6 came out, so should be able to find it again).
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Here you go Carol: just hit "Alt + Shift +Control + S" and you can toggle between the dark interface and the light interface from Xara 5 and earlier...
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Americans and Brits my be speaking the same language, more or less, but England is part of Europe, and therefore must pay the price; more rather than less...
(see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=22214.msg200129#msg200129))
-Curt
Just for the record, Corel Corp. is headquartered in Ottawa Canada.
So while it may technically be an "American" company, it's not a US american company. :P
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Here you go Carol: just hit "Alt + Shift +Control + S" and you can toggle between the dark interface and the light interface from Xara 5 and earlier...
-Darwin
Thanks - I'll try that when I get home.