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Title: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: Josh on March 19, 2009, 03:18 PM
It appears Microsoft has released IE8 into the wild. Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? Universal idiosyncratic quandries?

Source (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/default.aspx)
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: fenixproductions on March 19, 2009, 03:34 PM
I've tested it for 2h (browsing only) and must say that I am impressed with speed. It is quicker on my PC than Firefox!

Unfortunately: standard mode has problems with some JS effects (like lightbox or lytebox). This part is the only slow one (for now). I had to switch to "compatibility mode" but even despite that: there is visible difference between IE8 and 7 for sure.

And I really like Wiki suggestions while typing :)
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: nite_monkey on March 19, 2009, 08:02 PM
so is it worth downloading, or should I just stick with chrome and IE7
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: fenixproductions on March 19, 2009, 09:35 PM
2nite_monkey
I can give you two reasons why it's worth:
1. quicker than IE7 (does not matter is it compability or standard mode),
2. it's always good to have components used by other software updated.

P.S. Even if I stick with Opera, some of the applications I use will be less buggy (I hope).
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: nite_monkey on March 19, 2009, 09:48 PM
I went ahead and downloaded after I made that post, I guess I will go ahead and install it. Chances are, no more than I use IE, I probably wont have any problems with it.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: a_lunatic on March 19, 2009, 11:10 PM
I removed it as doesn't seem to play nice with feed demon.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: nite_monkey on March 19, 2009, 11:59 PM
So far the only thing I have found of use to it compared to IE7 is it seems to be slightly faster (though I haven't used IE7 or 8 that much anyways) So overall I think it is a pretty good improvement, but I can't say much until I use IE8 more.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: wreckedcarzz on March 20, 2009, 12:26 AM
Any idea when it will be released through Windows Update? Patch Tuesday maybe?

I don't wanna have to go around and update all these machines manually (I'm lazy lately :P)
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: nosh on March 20, 2009, 07:09 AM
I removed it as doesn't seem to play nice with feed demon.

What's broken? I haven't faced any issues with FeedDemon.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: fenixproductions on March 20, 2009, 08:42 AM
Any idea when it will be released through Windows Update? Patch Tuesday maybe?
-wreckedcarzz (March 20, 2009, 12:26 AM)
End of April:
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/03/19/ie-8expected-windows-update-and-automatic-updates-schedule
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: a_lunatic on March 20, 2009, 08:44 AM
What's broken? I haven't faced any issues with FeedDemon.
I am using vista x64 & feed demon at first becomes non responsive & then crashes & I even had troubles with the RC1 as well.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: Darwin on March 20, 2009, 11:50 AM
No problems here with FeeDemon and IE8 under Vista x64. I installed IE8 yesterday and have rebooted twice since then and all is well. Only possible "difference" between my install and yours is that I am still on FeeDemon 2.7.0.0 (last version without Ads).
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: nosh on March 20, 2009, 12:33 PM
I am running the latest FeedDemon beta, but on XP-32 so I can't really compare.

It did break EmEditor's shell integration though, I confirmed this by installing IE8 on a virtual machine where I faced the same problem. Probably because I've used some dirty hacks to replace notepad.exe and the text editor is installed in c:\windows. :-[
Uninstalling IE8 got me back to IE6 but that didn't fix anything, so I've upgraded again and got the text editor integrated manually using the registry.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: nosh on March 20, 2009, 01:21 PM
Digital Inspiration has some informative posts about how to use IE8's new 'Web Slices' on your site.

Tutorial: How to Write an IE8 Web Slice for WordPress Blogs
 (http://www.labnol.org/internet/write-ie8-web-slice-for-blogs/8013/)
Turn your RSS Feed into a Web Slice for Internet Explorer 8
 (http://www.labnol.org/internet/turn-rss-feed-into-web-slice-for-internet-explorer/8019/)
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: nite_monkey on March 21, 2009, 04:59 PM
which web browsers use the temporary internet files folder? Everytime I run IE8 and then close it, I will get a virus warning from avast in the temp internet files folder, and another one in the sysWOW64 folder. (I don't remember what the one in the temp folder is, but the virus in the syswow64 folder is something like 168659.exe or something like that) I dropped back to IE7 in hopes that this problem is resolved. If it helps any, when I used IE8, I never when to any sites that I didn't go to in IE7 or in chrome for that matter
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: f0dder on March 21, 2009, 06:10 PM
Hm, one thing is stuff in temporary internet files (afaik only IE and IE-based browsers use that) - but a strangely named exe file in your syswow64 folder? That sounds bad!
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: nite_monkey on March 21, 2009, 06:37 PM
I don't know, it seems to put a virus in the temp folder and in the syswow64 folder. I've downgraded back to IE7, I'm going to stop using chrome for a while and use IE7 and see if the virus reappear. I may see if I can install xp x64 in a virtual machine and then put IE8 on that and see if I can get the same results.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: foxnolds on March 21, 2009, 06:39 PM
I installed IE8 on XP SP3, after install reboot, it just flashed a full white screen then dies.
Manually removed IE8 back to IE6 and rebooted. Tried to install IE8 again but after install reboot, the same happened.
IE Tab in Firefox still works so that is my only choice for accessing ActiveX sites now....

I have not seen a solution. I was running the IE8 Beta just fine on this PC before upgrading tot he official release.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: J-Mac on March 24, 2009, 05:53 PM
....I am still on FeeDemon 2.7.0.0 (last version without Ads).

Me too - and there I'll stay!!

After paying for another year and then having it go free, I am not also gonna get their damn ads!!   8)

Jim
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: Darwin on March 24, 2009, 06:27 PM
....I am still on FeeDemon 2.7.0.0 (last version without Ads).

Me too - and there I'll stay!!

After paying for another year and then having it go free, I am not also gonna get their damn ads!!   8)

Jim

 ;D
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: Dirhael on March 24, 2009, 09:51 PM
....I am still on FeeDemon 2.7.0.0 (last version without Ads).

Me too - and there I'll stay!!

After paying for another year and then having it go free, I am not also gonna get their damn ads!!   8)

Jim

 ;D

Block northmay.com and the ads will go the way of the Dodo bird. Well, you will be left with a dark empty space where they used to be so it may not be the best solution for everyone, but it works for me*



* I really want to be able to use the upcoming 2.8 release which likely will have the ability to sync with Google Reader.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: Darwin on March 24, 2009, 10:26 PM
Dirhael - would you be willing to post a screen shot of how bad FeedDemon looks with northmay.com blocked? I’m quite happy where I am but if, in future, I decide to update it would be nice to have some control over what the GUI looks like...
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: J-Mac on March 24, 2009, 10:47 PM
Right now I am OK with 2.7. Google Reader doesn't do anything at all for me, so I won't miss that integration in 2.8.

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: rgdot on March 25, 2009, 12:35 AM
Hope I can install it without problems when forced, had some still inexplicable trouble when upgrading to 7 a while back. Better solution for me would be not getting it until next PC, if my next computer is going to be Windows that is ;)
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: Dirhael on March 25, 2009, 07:11 AM
Dirhael - would you be willing to post a screen shot of how bad FeedDemon looks with northmay.com blocked? I’m quite happy where I am but if, in future, I decide to update it would be nice to have some control over what the GUI looks like...

Absolutely, here's a screenshot for you :)

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Right now I am OK with 2.7. Google Reader doesn't do anything at all for me, so I won't miss that integration in 2.8.

Thanks!

Jim

I don't use Google Reader all that much either, but it's fantastic for reading feeds on mobile browsers seeing as it can also adapt linked pages for viewing on such devices.
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: nosh on March 25, 2009, 08:18 AM
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This just popped up in FeedDemon as I read this thread...

The upcoming FeedDemon 3.0 release will even have Google Reader synchronization meaning that you can don’t have to switch but can use both the services simultaneously. Any changes (like subscribing to new feeds, marking items as read, etc.) that you make in FeedDemon will be made available in Google Reader and vice-versa.

And it’s not just about synching feeds. Some of the native Google Reader features like sharing with notes and keyboard shortcuts are also expected in FeedDemon 3, the first beta of which is expected next week according to this tweet from Nick.
[DI (http://www.labnol.org/software/feeddemon-3-coming/8046/)]




Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: Darwin on March 25, 2009, 08:30 AM
Thanks for the screenshot, Dirhael  :Thmbsup: If I recall correctly, there was a bit of a brouhaha when 2.8 was announced and the response was that a future release would allow users (possibly users who had purchased FeedDemon in the past?) to disable the ads. I wonder if FeedDemon 3 will be such a beast...?

At any rate, the ad pane is very small, so if I AM forced (or motivated) to update in the future it shouldn't be too bad!
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: J-Mac on March 25, 2009, 06:05 PM
Dirhael - would you be willing to post a screen shot of how bad FeedDemon looks with northmay.com blocked? I’m quite happy where I am but if, in future, I decide to update it would be nice to have some control over what the GUI looks like...

Absolutely, here's a screenshot for you :)
 (see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=17522.msg156729#msg156729))
Right now I am OK with 2.7. Google Reader doesn't do anything at all for me, so I won't miss that integration in 2.8.

Thanks!

Jim

I don't use Google Reader all that much either, but it's fantastic for reading feeds on mobile browsers seeing as it can also adapt linked pages for viewing on such devices.

Actually I use Feedemon for Blackberry. I was a beta tester for Feedemon for Windows Mobile and was given both mobile versions free when they were released. I don't even know if they are offering those anymore. All of my Newsgator feeds are synched to my BB and if I want I can open the web page for any article.

Jim
Title: Re: IE8 on the loose!
Post by: Dirhael on March 25, 2009, 08:30 PM
Dirhael - would you be willing to post a screen shot of how bad FeedDemon looks with northmay.com blocked? I’m quite happy where I am but if, in future, I decide to update it would be nice to have some control over what the GUI looks like...

Absolutely, here's a screenshot for you :)
 (see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=17522.msg156729#msg156729))
Right now I am OK with 2.7. Google Reader doesn't do anything at all for me, so I won't miss that integration in 2.8.

Thanks!

Jim

I don't use Google Reader all that much either, but it's fantastic for reading feeds on mobile browsers seeing as it can also adapt linked pages for viewing on such devices.

Actually I use Feedemon for Blackberry. I was a beta tester for Feedemon for Windows Mobile and was given both mobile versions free when they were released. I don't even know if they are offering those anymore. All of my Newsgator feeds are synched to my BB and if I want I can open the web page for any article.

Jim

Well, one could always use the mobile web reader for Newsgator ( http://m.newsgator.com ) but that doesn't really give me what I'm using Google Reader for on my mobiles & PSP. The thing is, both services will offer the content of the feeds well formatted for the smaller screens, but the only reason I prefer GR for this is that if a RSS article links to a site, let's say a topic here on DonationCoder, that page will also be adapted for the mobile device. It's not always perfect, but it usually works quite well.