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Title: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 16, 2011, 09:06 AM
OS - XP SP3.

I am trying to find a way of opening images without showing anything around them, i.e. a program window.
The intention is to trigger them using a batch file.

All my attempts so far have resulted in opening the default image viewer and although I have tried several they all have a window.
The nearest I have got is a program called First Impression which just shows the file name and the image size (in % of original) as well as the image, this does disappear after a time but I would prefer not to get it, in fact I would prefer something separate from the default viewer.

One option I would like is to be able to open different images in different locations on the screen and they would need to open in their original size.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: PhilB66 on May 16, 2011, 09:47 AM
http://www.noping.net/kent/osiva/

Also, see https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=9399.msg70010#msg70010
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 16, 2011, 10:30 AM
http://www.noping.net/kent/osiva/

Also, see https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=9399.msg70010#msg70010

Thank you very much.

I have downloaded Osiva and when I get the time will see what I can do with it, from the link it seems to be mainly for opening a number of images at the same time while my need is to open individual images separately as visual warnings.
Another thing I need to work out are the instructions for the batch files as my knowledge of programming is non-existent.
I am not sure that there is anything in the second link that will help.

When I have checked things out I will get back to you.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 17, 2011, 07:16 AM
Checked out both links more thoroughly but not found what I am looking for, I need something very simple.

To try to make it clearer the batch files I am using generally look like this:
(Simplified version.)

run
"C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\1.JPG"

I have different images that give notification of different events that trigger independently some by time, some by an action.
Most of them contain text and I tend to make them just large enough to contain it so they are different sizes.
The problems are that I have not found a way of viewing them without seeing the viewing program as well as the image and if two or more images open at once they open on top of each other.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: Target on May 17, 2011, 06:16 PM
you could try ArtSage (http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?p=1&sc=24).  It's an image viewer, but it presents the image full frame and without any visible toolbars etc.  Downside here is that it doesn't appear to display multiple images concurrently

another alternative may be Osiva (http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?q=osiva).  This one seems to display images as separate instances (at their 'original' size).  It does display a floating toolbar, though you may be able to hide it (I didn't try)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 18, 2011, 07:20 AM
you could try ArtSage (http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?p=1&sc=24).  It's an image viewer, but it presents the image full frame and without any visible toolbars etc.  Downside here is that it doesn't appear to display multiple images concurrently

another alternative may be Osiva (http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?q=osiva).  This one seems to display images as separate instances (at their 'original' size).  It does display a floating toolbar, though you may be able to hide it (I didn't try)

Thanks.

ArtSage turned out to be a newer version of ArtSee which I already have.
Osiva I looked at yesterday but it never fitted the bill.

Part of the problem is that the only way I have managed to get this to work at all is by using a single program, till now First Impression, set as the default image viewer, but that opens all images in the same place, i.e. on top of each other if there is more than one at a time.
Osiva on the other hand opens images in different places but it opens them all at once, not one at a time which is what I need.

I have a small portable audible alarm program that will only activate once and then has to be reset, I can however create multiple instances of the EXE file (1.exe, 2.exe, etc) and set them all to different times.
I wondered if there was a small portable image viewer that could be used in the same way to set different positions.
Small being the operative word as the main use for this is on a netbook with limited resources.

The problem with that is I am using the batch files to trigger a specific image which in turn is picking up the default viewer.
If my idea was possible I would need a way to trigger a specific version of both the viewer and the image which is beyond my understanding of batch files.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on May 18, 2011, 09:14 AM
I have a working proof-of-concept app, called Frameless, written for you.  Some notes/questions:

1) This will be a commandline app that you can call from your batch file.  The syntax will be:
   
c:\path\to\Frameless.exe "<image path>" <x coord> <y coord>

2) Did you want taskbar buttons shown for each image?
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 18, 2011, 09:45 AM
2) Did you want taskbar buttons shown for each image?

Hi,

The only option I need is to be able to turn images off, one at a time if several show at once.
For my purposes this could be either from a taskbar button or the image itself.
The only use I could think of for taskbar buttons would be to minimize/maximize images which would be handy but not essential.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on May 18, 2011, 10:10 AM
The only option I need is to be able to turn images off, one at a time if several show at once.
For my purposes this could be either from a taskbar button or the image itself.
The only use I could think of for taskbar buttons would be to minimize/maximize images which would be handy but not essential.
-pilgrim-online (May 18, 2011, 09:45 AM)

There are currently two ways to close a displayed image: 1) Pressing escape with the image focused or 2) Using the right-click context menu.  Also, since there is no border or titlebar, I've made it so that you can simply left-click and hold to drag the image around.

Give it a shot:  Frameless download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/snacks/Frameless.zip)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 18, 2011, 11:47 AM
Frameless works well if I set it as the default viewer, if not it opens the default viewer along with the image.

I will give it another go tomorrow, my usual default viewer First Impression gives a preview if you hold the curser over a file, which I make quite a lot of use of.

Being able to put the images in different positions is great.

Is there any way of separating the default viewer from the one I use in the batch files?
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on May 18, 2011, 11:50 AM
In your batch file, call it explicitly.  Something like this:

c:\path\to\Frameless.exe c:\path\to\image.ext 100 100
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 19, 2011, 05:43 AM
I have spent an hour trying a variety of settings with the following results:

Actual batch file in use:

C:\Documents and Settings\Pilgrim\My Documents\Received Files\Frameless\Frameless.exe
"C:\Documents and Settings\Pilgrim\My Documents\Received Files\001_screenshot_1.jpg" 100 100

This will open the image in whatever viewer is set as the default (tried several), it also opens the image in the default position of whatever viewer it opens, i.e. First Impression opens in the centre of the screen regardless of the coordinates in the file.

If I set Frameless as the default viewer the image always opens top left.
When I tested this yesterday I left out the position settings as I was short of time so it defaulted to that position anyway but I have since tried adding them and no matter what they are it makes no difference to the image.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: Ath on May 19, 2011, 05:57 AM
Actual batch file in use:

"C:\Documents and Settings\Pilgrim\My Documents\Received Files\Frameless\Frameless.exe"
"C:\Documents and Settings\Pilgrim\My Documents\Received Files\001_screenshot_1.jpg" 100 100

The exe path has spaces, so should be quoted as well. (corrected above)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 19, 2011, 06:11 AM
Tried that, still doing the same thing?
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on May 19, 2011, 07:32 AM
The command needs to be all on the same line:

"C:\Documents and Settings\Pilgrim\My Documents\Received Files\Frameless\Frameless.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\Pilgrim\My Documents\Received Files\001_screenshot_1.jpg" 100 100
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 19, 2011, 08:21 AM
The way it is shown in my previous post there is just a single space after the first line as it would be if it was all on one line.


When I opened Notepad full screen it put 'Files\001_screenshot_1.jpg" 100 100' on the second line.

If I open Notepad to the size I normally use it at I finish up with this:

"C:\Documents and
Settings\Pilgrim\My
Documents\Received
Files\Frameless\Frameless.exe"
"C:\Documents and
Settings\Pilgrim\My
Documents\Received
Files\001_screenshot_1.jpg" 100
100


If I save the file using either of these options it will not run at all.
I even copied and pasted the command from your last post and that would not run.

I have experienced this with other batch files I have created and the only way out that I have found if they do not run is to check the spaces at the end of each line.


Forgive my lack of knowledge but I have a question:

If I double click on Frameless.exe it opens an information window.
If I remove the second part of the command from the batch file should that not do the same?
Because if I run the batch file without the image path the command window flashes on and off and nothing else happens.

I have just tried this with two other image viewers and they both opened the program window?
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on May 19, 2011, 09:08 AM
I recreated your folder path and files on my computer and it seems to work just fine.   :huh:

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Can anybody else test this with a batch file and paths that have spaces in them?
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 19, 2011, 09:42 AM
Problem Solved!

After reading your last post I went right back to the beginning and started again.
I moved the program file and the image to a different folder and put them together.
I deleted the batch file and it's shortcut, rewrote the first and recreated the second.

Everything works!

I have no idea which part of that changed things and I can only apologise for what must have been my mistake although I am not aware of having done anything different from the first time.

Frameless does exactly what I wanted in a simple straightforward manner, thank you.

This is the second time you have helped me and it is much appreciated.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on May 19, 2011, 01:20 PM
Frameless[/b] does exactly what I wanted in a simple straightforward manner, thank you.
This is the second time you have helped me and it is much appreciated.
-pilgrim-online (May 19, 2011, 09:42 AM)

No need to apologise and you're very welcome.  I'm happy to be able to help out.  I've decided to pretty this up a bit and release it on my main (http://skwire.dcmembers.com) site.  Bear in mind that I did change up the commandline syntax a little bit so I hope you haven't gotten too far into your batch files.  I also made the taskbar button an option as well.  Please check the readme.txt for details.

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Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.1 - 2011-05-19
    + Website release.
    * Changed the parameter syntax.

v1.0.0 - 2011-05-18
    + Initial forum builds.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: joiwind on May 19, 2011, 01:22 PM
pilgrim-online - another suggestion, though a bit late (especially after skwire's hard work...) : ImageOpen (http://patrice-zwenger.co.cc/my_programs.html#P3)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on May 19, 2011, 01:25 PM
pilgrim-online - another suggestion, though a bit late (especially after skwire's hard work...) : ImageOpen (http://patrice-zwenger.co.cc/my_programs.html#P3)

Nice find!  As for my app, you'd be surprised how little code there is in it so no worries.   :D
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on May 20, 2011, 05:27 AM
Bear in mind that I did change up the commandline syntax a little bit so I hope you haven't gotten too far into your batch files.

I want this for my Netbook but all the trials have been carried out on my PC so nothing is set.

I also made the taskbar button an option as well.  Please check the readme.txt for details.

I may stick to the original as having got it working I am not sure that I need the additions but I shall try both before I decide.


pilgrim-online - another suggestion, though a bit late (especially after skwire's hard work...) : ImageOpen (http://patrice-zwenger.co.cc/my_programs.html#P3)

Just like waiting for a bus, nothing for ages and then three come along at once.

How did he make that program so small?

I have downloaded a copy to have a look at but the first problem that I can see is how to create a batch file that will open it with 'No Border' set, as every time you start the program it resets to the default.
I have also downloaded a copy of CaptureScreen to compare it with what I already have.

Thank you again skwire for the program and your time, thank you joiwind for a very useful link, and thank you to the others for their input.

One question in conclusion; does anyone know of an elementary tutorial on writing batch files?
Some of what I found is extremely comprehensive but most of it is way over my head.
What I need is something that offers working examples that I can then try to modify myself.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: vixay on June 16, 2011, 03:08 AM
how about maxview (http://www.faststone.org/FSMaxViewDetail.htm) by faststone? You'll have to see the documentation for the commandline parameters

Also for scripts, if you are using win7 and up, I'd recommend use powershell. If this is only for your computer you could also use other scripting languages by installing their runtime, python, ruby ...etc, they would be overkill but would work well and expand even better. This is if you know programming languages already.

skwire would recommend ahk as well as that is what he used to create the app. 

as for examples, first link on google is this (http://www.dostips.com/DtCodeBatchFiles.php) which looks good.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on June 16, 2011, 04:24 AM
vixay,

Thank you for your reply.

maxview is way too big, not to mention the cost.

As I put at the top of my original post my OS is XP-SP3 and any sort of programming beyond very basic batch files is beyond me although I have had a look at AHK since skwire suggested it.

Frameless does everything I wanted in my original post and from my point of view I doubt it could be improved on, it's small, it allows me to position images exactly where I want them, the only addition that I can think of would be to set the images to close after a given period which I might look into when I have the time, for now I settle for closing them manually.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: vixay on June 16, 2011, 07:35 AM
oh see this https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=18081.msg162996#msg162996
I forgot that it had gone payware later. Anyway I am glad it worked out for you.

skwire, what did you use to write frameless? I don't see any source in the bundle or link on the website, I'd thought you'd done it in AHK and was curious to look at the code.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on June 16, 2011, 08:01 AM
the only addition that I can think of would be to set the images to close after a given period
-pilgrim-online (June 16, 2011, 04:24 AM)

This functionality would be very easy to add.

skwire, what did you use to write frameless?

It's written in AHK and it's really not much more than simply reading in the command-line parameters and creating a very simple GUI using a standard picture control.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on June 16, 2011, 08:37 AM
the only addition that I can think of would be to set the images to close after a given period
-pilgrim-online (June 16, 2011, 04:24 AM)

This functionality would be very easy to add.

If it is not too much trouble it would be useful, I would need to be able to set the period manually or disable it, just as I can the position.
I have stayed with the original version so far on my Netbook and it works perfectly.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: joiwind on June 17, 2011, 05:17 PM
Another viewer with only command line options ! Mycview (http://myc01.free.fr/mycview/) ... could be useful ...
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on June 17, 2011, 07:13 PM
Here you go; apologies for the delay.  To specify a timeout, simply add a "duration=hh:mm:ss" parameter to your calls.  So, for a ten-second timeout, you would use duration=00:00:10.  IMO, using the timestamp format should provide for decent flexibility.  Let me know how it works out for you.  Thanks.

Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.2 - 2011-06-17
    + Added "duration" parameter.  Use standard timestamp format e.g. hh:mm:ss.
      (Thanks, pilgrim-online)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on June 18, 2011, 05:22 AM
Another viewer with only command line options ! Mycview (http://myc01.free.fr/mycview/) ... could be useful ...

Thanks for that, the slideshow reminds me of ArtSage (http://www.xworks.ca/artsage/) but the program is much smaller.
Just downloaded and tried it, not what I had in mind when I started this thread but very interesting all the same.
Have now added it to my growing collection.

skwire,

That's brilliant and thank you for both downloads, I will do some experimenting when I get the time.

I do have one question relating to batch files in general:
When I started playing about with them I kept getting the Command Prompt flash up on the screen, I overcame that by creating a shortcut to the batch file, opening the shortcut properties and setting Run to 'minimized', then using the shortcut as the trigger.
This works in most cases but a couple of times it has failed.
One particular instance was on my Netbook where I wanted to trigger a visual battery warning, although I entered the path to the shortcut and not the batch file the CMD window still flashed up, any ideas of how to prevent this?
I did wonder if this happened because it was being triggered by the OS (Power Options), as it does not happen when I run off of third party programs.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: Ath on June 18, 2011, 05:59 AM
You should in general not need to create a batchfile to start a tool with command-line parameters. Just create a shortcut to the exe, and in the properties of that shortcut, add any command-line parameters at the end of the 'Target' field. Do include a space after the phrase that's already there (the full path/exe name, usually).
You can use environment variables if you need, by using % around the name, like %PATH%.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on June 18, 2011, 07:04 AM
You should in general not need to create a batchfile to start a tool with command-line parameters. Just create a shortcut to the exe, and in the properties of that shortcut, add any command-line parameters at the end of the 'Target' field. Do include a space after the phrase that's already there (the full path/exe name, usually).
You can use environment variables if you need, by using % around the name, like %PATH%.

Ath,

I cannot check this out until I get back on my Netbook but in that case the exe is Frameless and the rest of the batch file is the path to the particular image that I was using.
I have just tried this with a test file I have set-up on my PC and it worked.

That is a very useful piece of information, thank you.

In a previous thread I started on this forum it was pointed out to me that what I was trying to do at that time was already available in the OS but if it had not been pointed out to me, like now, I would probably never have found it. :-[
Always did prefer mechanical things, at least you can take them apart and see how they work. :)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: vixay on June 20, 2011, 02:01 AM
the only addition that I can think of would be to set the images to close after a given period
-pilgrim-online (June 16, 2011, 04:24 AM)

This functionality would be very easy to add.

skwire, what did you use to write frameless?

It's written in AHK and it's really not much more than simply reading in the command-line parameters and creating a very simple GUI using a standard picture control.

I see, that's what I'd guessed. btw, are you not sharing your source code on the website? Somehow I thought that handling pictures was a lot more complicated than that, because of various formats and types ...etc. you make it look easy though! So why do all they image viewers cost a bunch and stuff?
I guess that would be because or writing native decoding algorithms versus using libraries.
Still good job on this.

In a previous thread I started on this forum it was pointed out to me that what I was trying to do at that time was already available in the OS but if it had not been pointed out to me, like now, I would probably never have found it. :-[
Always did prefer mechanical things, at least you can take them apart and see how they work.
-pilgrim-online (June 18, 2011, 07:04 AM)

It's the same with computers it's just it follows a different set of rules, and the basics are the code, which can be hidden. I guess you need training with it just like you need some basic understand of physics (which can be intuitive) to deal with mechanical things.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on June 20, 2011, 03:57 AM
Ath,

I tried your idea on my Netbook yesterday and it would not work, in fact I could not get the batch file to run either.
These are the windows I got when I tried:

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The OS is trying to set it up as a Scheduled Task that requires a time which obviously there is no way of adding?
If I entered it without a time it just showed up as 'Disabled'.

The boxes in the third image are empty but I entered the full path and parameters when I tried it.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: Ath on June 20, 2011, 04:21 AM
I tried your idea on my Netbook yesterday and it would not work, in fact I could not get the batch file to run either.
These are the windows I got when I tried:
-pilgrim-online (June 20, 2011, 03:57 AM)

IMHO, the full path to the Frameless.exe (with quotes if it has spaces) and the full path to the image (again with quotes if the path contains spaces), the screenposition and the timeout value should go in the Run field in your last screenshot, just like you had them in the batchfile. You could optionally set the Start in field, but that should not be needed for it to work.

If the batchfile won't even work, I'd first check if your paths are correct. Oh, and you should probably not run the exe form a network (UNC) path, it's not forbidden or impossible, but it could cause (security) issues or even prevent frameless to be started.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: Ath on June 20, 2011, 04:25 AM
Hm, could it be that it's running on a different desktop? So not on the foreground user's desktop, but on a background Administrator desktop? You could try to run it as the foreground user (Run as field) and see if that helps.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on June 20, 2011, 05:19 AM
I tried your idea on my Netbook yesterday and it would not work, in fact I could not get the batch file to run either.
These are the windows I got when I tried:
-pilgrim-online (June 20, 2011, 03:57 AM)

IMHO, the full path to the Frameless.exe (with quotes if it has spaces) and the full path to the image (again with quotes if the path contains spaces), the screen position and the timeout value should go in the Run field in your last screenshot, just like you had them in the batchfile. You could optionally set the Start in field, but that should not be needed for it to work.

If the batchfile won't even work, I'd first check if your paths are correct. Oh, and you should probably not run the exe from a network (UNC) path, it's not forbidden or impossible, but it could cause (security) issues or even prevent frameless to be started.

All the details were in the Run field and when I clicked on apply the folder which contains both the exe and the image appeared in the Start in field.
I copied and pasted what was in the Run field into a batch file and triggered it manually, it worked, so that part was right.
All the files are on the same partition of the hard drive so it cannot be a network issue.

Hm, could it be that it's running on a different desktop? So not on the foreground user's desktop, but on a background Administrator desktop? You could try to run it as the foreground user (Run as field) and see if that helps.

I only have one account on each of my computers, to begin with the default account name appeared in the 'Run as' box, when that did not work I tried changing it to 'Administrator', that did not work either.
What did happen both times was a 'you do not have permission' notice appeared but it still showed up under Scheduled Tasks when I clicked apply.
I even checked the permissions for the files with NTFS Permissions Tool (http://www.ghacks.net/2011/05/24/ntfs-permissions-tools/) and everything was showing as allowed.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on June 20, 2011, 07:04 AM
Somehow I thought that handling pictures was a lot more complicated than that, because of various formats and types ...etc. you make it look easy though!

It's really just about letting whichever language you use do the work for you.  Basically, Frameless does this:


So why do all they image viewers cost a bunch and stuff?

IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com/) is free.  XNView (http://www.xnview.com/) is free.  FastStone Image Viewer (http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm) is free.  IMO, those are three of the most feature-complete image viewers out there.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on June 23, 2011, 05:07 PM
Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.3 - 2011-06-23
    + Handles transparency in PNG files now.  (Thanks, pilgrim-online)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on June 24, 2011, 04:31 AM
Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.3 - 2011-06-23
    + Handles transparency in PNG files now.  (Thanks, pilgrim-online)

The only problem I have is working out how to set it?
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on June 24, 2011, 09:25 AM
The only problem I have is working out how to set it?
-pilgrim-online (June 24, 2011, 04:31 AM)

No need to set anything; it should just work as before.  If it's not working for you, send me the image file, please.   :)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: Ath on June 24, 2011, 09:30 AM
The only problem I have is working out how to set it?
-pilgrim-online (June 24, 2011, 04:31 AM)
The transparency is part/attribute of the image, if it's not there (yet), use an image editor to put it in. Paint.NET, Gimp or any decent image editor could be used to do that.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on June 24, 2011, 09:49 AM
Ath's comment made me think of something.  There are two types of transparency in this case:

Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: Ath on June 24, 2011, 09:59 AM
I think this is what you meant, right?
@skwire
I never saw that requested, was that a PM to you? I was a bit surprised you added it without 'us' seeing a request, but that doesn't mean it wasn't asked ;D
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on June 24, 2011, 10:01 AM
I never saw that requested, was that a PM to you?

Yes, it was.   :)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on June 24, 2011, 10:21 AM
skwire,

Sorry I never realised there are two types of transparency.

I was talking about making the actual image transparent (your item 2) in terms of adding another item at the end of the parameters to set a percentage so that each time that particular image opened from a given trigger (shortcut/batch file) it had the same transparency but that the image itself could be opened by a different trigger or program without any transparency.

Ath,

Apologies if my use of PM caused confusion but it was mainly about issues not directly relevant to this thread.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on June 24, 2011, 07:29 PM
Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.4 - 2011-06-24
    + Added "trans" parameter.  Valid values are 0-255.  (Thanks, pilgrim)
    + Added "caption" parameter.  (Thanks, R. Christy)
    + Added hotkeys to move the window around.  (Thanks, R. Christy)
        # Up/down/left/right arrow keys will move it one pixel at a time.
        # Shift + up/down/left/right arrow keys will move it ten pixels at a time.
    + Added new context menu item: Show size & position data
    - Regressed PNG transparency support added in v1.0.3 for now.  Sorry.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: grymmjack on June 24, 2011, 08:48 PM
Just wanted to say thanks to skwire for adding the captions and hotkeys! Very awesome. Donation is on it's way :)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on June 25, 2011, 05:42 AM
skwire,

Just tried that out and it is brilliant.

The hotkeys and the extra context menu item are not things that I would have thought of but they have made a good program even better.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on June 25, 2011, 07:38 AM
Thanks for the feedback, folks.   :D

Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.5 - 2011-06-25
    + Added "aot" parameter to set window as Always On Top e.g. aot=yes
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: frankell on August 26, 2011, 08:42 AM
Yep maybe I am a little late ...
I used EasyEye Picture Viewer and I didn't like the taskbar entry

I really would like Frameless version 1.0.3 the one "+ Handles transparency in PNG files"
but all the old versions  links are pointing to the last 1.0.5 version
any chance ? 


Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on August 26, 2011, 08:58 AM
There we go.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: frankell on August 26, 2011, 10:15 AM
many thanks pilgrim !!  :D
ops ... actually I also needed the "no taskbar" and the "on top" features  :-[

I just don't need the second kind of transparency (the window one)

btw I made the shot running EasyEye  and this is my new idea: the avatar near the clock like the upcoming Windows 8 !  ;)
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv101/frankelll/Screenshot-10_07_2011215725.jpg)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on August 26, 2011, 11:45 AM
I'm swamped at work at the moment so give me a few days and I'll add those features to that trans-PNG build for you.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: frankell on August 26, 2011, 12:26 PM
You are the man !
thanks skwire ! btw the (Trans)Lucidity icon was a very good success (more than 2000 downloads in 50 days on Wincustomize (http://www.wincustomize.com/explore/objectdock/17134/)  :D
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on August 26, 2011, 12:31 PM
(Trans)Lucidity icon was a very good success

Awesome.  I'm happy that I was able to help.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on September 01, 2011, 12:43 AM
@frankell: FramelessAlphaTrans (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/FramelessAlphaTrans.zip)

This custom version drops the "trans=#" switch since it didn't work anyway (but you said you didn't need it).  All other options should work.  Let me know.  Thanks.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: frankell on September 04, 2011, 05:03 PM
sorry for the delay skwire but I had to reformat and now I'm very busy rebuilding my "new" XP  
 I'm sure it's OK !!  Many Thanks :)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: WillieCee on September 08, 2011, 11:53 PM

First off thank you you frameless its a nice building block for many things.... :Thmbsup:
Here is my 2cents worth of input:
I see in the idea request the ability to place img by X and Y which work flawlessly; would it be possiable to expand that option to include a option to center an image? idea here is to always place next img in center of screen no matter what the res is set to or the native img size. I could write it in batch to capture res. and quary the img for size then do the math which would require some time to think though it all (which might be considerablly simpler from within the exe) ie.. something like:
x=L,C,R  left, center, right respectively and y=T,C,B  top,center,bottom ish.. you get the point ...
~
willie
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: WillieCee on September 09, 2011, 12:34 AM
I'm swamped at work at the moment so give me a few days and I'll add those features to that trans-PNG build for you.

on to my second cents worth:
idea exploit the trans option into a fade type load
@echo off
:: Test.bat auto load and run file
echo Loading...
c:\Frameless.exe "c:\test.jpg" x=600 y=140 taskbar=no trans=25 duration=00:00:01
c:\Frameless.exe "c:\test.jpg" x=600 y=140 taskbar=no trans=50 duration=00:00:01
c:\Frameless.exe "c:\test.jpg" x=600 y=140 taskbar=no trans=75 duration=00:00:01
ect... this method is not smooth; it needs to be as it loads img at 255 for a few ms and then the setting called here again you get the idea .....(this option my only seem cool to me so toss it out for a vote and see where it goes) thanks again as you can see I was already having fun with trans option  :D
~willie
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on September 09, 2011, 08:16 PM
Welcome to the site, WillieCee, and thanks for the feedback.  Your L/C/R and T/C/B idea is a really good one so I've implemented it in the latest build (along with the ability to specify which monitor to use when using these new parameters).  I'll pass for now on the fade-in request.   :D

Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.6 - 2011-09-09
    + Added ability to use L, C, or R for the "x" coordinate and T, C, or B for
      the "y" coordinate.  This corresponds to Left, Center and Right for "x"
      and Top, Center and Bottom for "y."  For instance, you can now use these
      options to automtically position an image in the bottom right corner or
      to center an image on your screen.  (Thanks, WillieCee)
    + Added "mon" parameter for use with the above L/C/R and T/C/B options.
      This will allow you to specify which monitor to position the image on e.g.,
      c:\path\to\Frameless.exe "c:\path\to\image.jpg" x=C y=C mon=2
      It has no effect if you manually specify the "x" or "y" coordinates.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: pilgrim on September 10, 2011, 04:53 AM
That last idea was great from my point of view as well as I open the majority of images I use in the centre of the screen, till now I have been calculating the image size against the screen resolution and setting the coordinates accordingly.
Thanks WillieCee for the idea and thanks skwire for implementing it.

When I started this thread I never expected it to develop to the point it has but it is one very useful program.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: WillieCee on September 15, 2011, 01:35 AM
I'm finding that trans has a mind of its own :D 
x=c y=c is not fool proof randomly loads 1 or 2 pics as half offset right from C and bottom.
Has a crash load of 175 imgs prog puked without crashing win with it. (I was torturing it(best was 189) my be hardware dependant.
Sometimes puts <path> to img in upper left corner of img seems random as well (only seen in trans mode)
~willie/fool  ;D
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: anandcoral on September 15, 2011, 02:06 AM
WOW @skwire !

I just checked your website, it has lots of jewels  :D, Congratulation.

I have bookmarked it and will check and use them, as I constantly keep looking for better Apps.

Regards,

Anand
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on September 15, 2011, 08:44 AM
I'm finding that trans has a mind of its own :D 
x=c y=c is not fool proof randomly loads 1 or 2 pics as half offset right from C and bottom.

Hmmm, I worked really hard to make that work properly with any monitor resolution and any multi-monitor layout.  If you can reproduce the error reliably, let me know.

Has a crash load of 175 imgs prog puked without crashing win with it. (I was torturing it(best was 189) my be hardware dependant.

Are you saying you simultaneously loaded 175 separate instances of Frameless?  :o  If so, I'll take that as a win, thanks. :D
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on September 15, 2011, 09:00 AM
WOW @skwire !
I just checked your website, it has lots of jewels  :D, Congratulation.

Thanks for the kind words, anandcoral.  I appreciate them.   :)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on February 03, 2012, 08:55 AM
Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.7 - 2012-02-03
    + Space/Backspace will now show the next/previous image in the folder.  The
      PageUp and PageDown keys will also work.  (Thanks, Sean)
    + Support for animated gifs provided by the AniGIF control from Antonis
      Kyprianou of http://www.winasm.net.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: cmpm on April 30, 2012, 07:12 PM
Open the images with a program that will let you open more then one at a time.
Crop, resize or whatever, line them up and take a Screenshot of it.

Or my original thought was to use Frameless,
which opens as many images as you want to, on your desktop.
Put them where you want them and take a Screenshot.
You may have to resize or crop before opening with Frameless.

http://skwire.dcmembers.com/fp/?page=frameless


oops wrong thread

see-

https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=30861.new#new
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: TaoPhoenix on April 30, 2012, 08:37 PM
Heh I just stumbled on this today and I like it! When I look at a picture lately it's for 7 seconds just recalling "what was THAT in my notes labled "Mouser-Cat"?!!

But different image extensions kept going to different and heavy programs like Paint.Net and Pale Moon Firefox.

So this is a cute little app!

Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on November 14, 2012, 10:34 PM
Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.8 - 2012-11-14
    + Added noexit=yes parameter.  Setting this will remove the "Exit" entry from
      the context menu and prevent the Alt+F4 and Escape hotkeys from exiting the
      application.  However, you can still kill Frameless via the Task Manager.
      (Thanks, Jon)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: kilele on November 15, 2012, 11:01 AM
it might be useful an "open with.." entry for the context menu
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on November 15, 2012, 11:10 AM
it might be useful an "open with.." entry for the context menu

You make a good point.  However, a context menu item is fairly static and Frameless really isn't meant to be (with its various params and whatnot).  Now, that being said, you could create several shortcuts in your SendTo folder with different parameters set up.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: cmpm on November 15, 2012, 12:25 PM
I've found Frameless to work well pinned to the Start menu.
If that helps.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: kilele on November 15, 2012, 04:40 PM
I was thinking more of opening the pic with Paint, it could work just pressing enter,
this tool is really handy  :up:
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on November 19, 2012, 03:42 PM
I was thinking more of opening the pic with Paint, it could work just pressing enter,
this tool is really handy  :up:

Ohhhhh...you meant the context menu of Frameless, right?  If so, apologies, I misunderstood you.  I though you meant the system context menu (like what you'd see if you right-clicked a file in Windows Exporer).
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: kilele on November 22, 2012, 07:59 AM
yep, I meant the program's context menu, the enterer key might suffice if you consider interesting this feature.
My apologies for not understanding your misunderstanding  ;)
One more suggestion: scale images when their size  is too big to fit in the screen dimensions, something like what Vista's  "Windows Photo Gallery" does to keep images within the screen limits.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: therube on December 21, 2012, 06:38 PM
Frameless does not display CMYK, YCCK JPEGs correctly.

One is attached to this bug report, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44781.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on December 22, 2012, 12:25 AM
Frameless does not display CMYK, YCCK JPEGs correctly.
One is attached to this bug report, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44781.

From my tests, this appears to be a limitation of the standard Windows picture control that AHK implements.  In other words, I don't think there is anything I can do about it.  Apologies.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: joeyT on February 03, 2013, 03:17 PM
Hi!  The Frameless program is exactly what I needed! Thank you very much! This is not the only time you have helped me out with your fantastic programs!

However, I have one question.  Would there be any way to display the image 'always on bottom' so as to be behind other windows that will run while Frameless runs, in my batch file as opposed to allowing the program to run 'always on top' (aot = yes). And would it be a considerably all right question to ask you to implement such feature?

I have been trying to figure out a way to keep my command prompt window to always remain ontop of the Frameless picture window but I am having a lot of trouble trying to find a way to do this.
The command window always runs before any other file is loaded in the batch file, so as Framless runs only after the command window shows, the image appears on top of the command window.

I know I can just switch to the command window after it has loaded but my desired effect is that the command window will start on top of the Frameless picture - or that the Frameless picture will always stay under other windows.

I should explain that I want the command promt to be able to be used quickly as I am creating a Java built game and wish for a 'background' behind the command window to get rid of other desktop distractions.

Much appreciated,
Joey.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on February 03, 2013, 07:29 PM
Hi, Joey, and welcome to the DonationCoder site.  Please give this version a try and see if it's what you had in mind:

Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.0.9 - 2013-02-03
    + Added aob=yes parameter to display an image at the bottom of the z-order.
      (Thanks, joeyT)
    + Added update check to the image context menu.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: joeyT on February 04, 2013, 01:50 AM
That is exactly what I had in mind! Thank you for the quick reply and especially for updating your program. Seriously, you have saved my skin and it is much appreciated!

I think I'l stick around :)

joey
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on February 04, 2013, 07:55 AM
Great to hear.   :)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: Bziur on March 11, 2013, 04:17 AM
Is it possible to delete a file with this viewer? I'm missing that in First Impression :(
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on December 20, 2013, 05:42 PM
Is it possible to delete a file with this viewer? I'm missing that in First Impression :(

Doh!  Sorry, Bziur, I must have missed your post.  No, you cannot delete a file with Frameless.

Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/frameless.php) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.1.2 - 2013-12-20
    ! Frameless errored out if x/y values were not specified.  Default x/y values
      are now zero (0).  (Thanks, Attila)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: struggler on February 13, 2014, 12:44 PM
Hello skwire,

I have tried Frameless and it appears an excellent program when opening JPG images.  However I only want to use it for animated GIFs. These work but the GIF is not completely frameless. It seems to open a box about 40% larger than the GIF with the moving image positioned in the top left corner. So I get an animated GIF with thick bands of white on the bottom and right hand sides only. I have tried setting the parameters w and h to the size that displays in the right click context box but this just reduces the overall size so that the image is cropped and the white bands remain, albeit slightly smaller. The whole block is positioned correctly as required using x & y parameters and the duration function is also working fine.

As no-one else on the forum has this problem, maybe it is my PC or some mysterious setting. I am using 64bit windows 7 OS. The Gifs run normally with IE 9, WMP & 7GIF so it is not the images that are bad. Have you any clever weezes that might sort this out. I have tried removing the program a number of times and reinstalling but the same problem occurs.

As my username suggests, I am a virtual illiterate when it comes to computing. Any suggestions will be gratefully received.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on February 13, 2014, 02:13 PM
Hi, struggler, and welcome to the DonationCoder site.   :Thmbsup:

Unfortunately, the GIF support that Frameless has is handled by an old third-party DLL so there isn't a whole lot I can do about how it displays your GIF files.   :(  
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on August 12, 2014, 03:54 PM
Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/fp/?page=frameless) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.1.3 - 2014-08-12
    + Added option to use PNG alpha transparency.  Use trans="alpha" to take
      advantage of this feature.  (Thanks, Adam B.)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on August 24, 2014, 08:30 PM
Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/fp/?page=frameless) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.1.4 - 2014-08-24
    ! Images sizes weren't reset when using the hotkeys to navigate a folder of images.
      (Thanks, Ed)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on October 10, 2014, 09:04 PM
You can now resize images as you would a normal window.  Hold down the shift key while resizing to keep the images's original aspect ratio.  Resizing is not supported for GIF files nor when the trans=alpha option is in use.

Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/fp/?page=frameless) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.1.5 - 2014-10-10
    + Images are now resizable.  This excludes GIF files and files where the
      "trans=alpha" parameter are in effect.  Holding down the shift key while
      resizing keeps the image's aspect ratio.  (Thanks, B. Johnson)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on October 11, 2014, 01:41 AM
Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/fp/?page=frameless) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.1.6 - 2014-10-11
    + Added "noactivate=yes" option to show an image without activating the
      window and taking focus.  (Thanks, lanux128)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on November 10, 2014, 01:34 AM
Website (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/fp/?page=frameless) | Download (http://skwire.dcmembers.com/apps/frameless/Frameless.zip)
v1.1.7 - 2014-11-09
    ! With some Windows themes, a border would appear along the bottom and right
      edges of the image.  (Thanks, lanux128 & Alex N.)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: bandit012345 on November 08, 2015, 03:03 AM
I recently used a program called "Image Overlay Utility" and it had 2 features that were really cool.
- Click Thru (keeps the open image always on top and cannot be moved, but objects can be moved under it)
- Region transparency (if an image contains areas of transparency, you can see the desktop in those areas - but the rest of the image remains solid)
If Frameless is still being developed, I would like to add these options as a suggestion.

P.S. "Image Overlay Utility" requires a license to work with command-line. That's why I still use Frameless.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: hxr404 on November 13, 2020, 10:12 AM
Hello @skwire,
thanks for this useful tool.
I have a feature Request:
- A click-through Option (suggested by bandit012345)
- Transparent Gif's should display transparent instead of white
- An Option to do Animations with png Files e.g. a fps option, and a option to specify a folder full of png's (the frames)
I hope this is still being developed, because its one of my favourite tool for batch file coding.

Thank You!
hxr404

PS: I hope that someone is still reading this in 2020  :D The Feature Request-Button on the Website didn't work

PPS: sry for my bad English, I'm German xD

@bandit012345 Region Transparency is already implemented, only missing for gif's
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: hxr404 on November 15, 2020, 06:55 AM
Hello @skwire
If you add these Features, I'd pay for it, maybe that helps ;)
Or if you aren't intrested in continuing this programm, could you open source it, so someone else can add those features (I'd also donate something to you)?

Thanks
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on November 15, 2020, 12:10 PM
- A click-through Option (suggested by bandit012345)

This could be done.

- Transparent Gif's should display transparent instead of white

AutoHotkey doesn't handle animated GIFs natively, so I'm not certain if this would be possible.

- An Option to do Animations with png Files e.g. a fps option, and a option to specify a folder full of png's (the frames)

This is out of scope for this application.  However, with the current options available within Frameless, you should be able to accomplish what you want with your own batch or AHK script.

PS: I hope that someone is still reading this in 2020  :D The Feature Request-Button on the Website didn't work

Which button and which website?

Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on November 20, 2020, 11:24 AM
- A click-through Option (suggested by bandit012345)

This could be done.  Added in the beta build below.  Please test.

- Transparent Gif's should display transparent instead of white

AutoHotkey doesn't handle animated GIFs natively, so I'm not certain if this would be possible.  After several hours, and 47 builds later, I think I have this working properly now in the beta below. Transparency should work for animated GIFs as well.  Please test.

- An Option to do Animations with png Files e.g. a fps option, and a option to specify a folder full of png's (the frames)

This is out of scope for this application.  However, with the current options available within Frameless, you should be able to accomplish what you want with your own batch or AHK script.

PS: I hope that someone is still reading this in 2020  :D The Feature Request-Button on the Website didn't work

Which button and which website?

Frameless v1.1.8.47 Beta
https://www.dcmembers.com/skwire/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/apps/frameless/Frameless_v1.1.8.47.zip
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on November 20, 2020, 11:25 AM
Hello @skwire
If you add these Features, I'd pay for it, maybe that helps ;)

See post above.   :)
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: hxr404 on November 25, 2020, 10:37 AM
Hi,
thank you really much. I'm really happy about the new features.
The new features work perfectly. I tested differnt Gif's and png's and all worked as expected.
But I noticed, that the R,C,L and T,C,B doesn't work anymore for the x and y parameter (For me it's not that important as I fill in the number using my batch-file). I get this error message:
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

I'm curious; how are you using it in your batch files?

I'm using it for all kind of animations (e.g. Among Us figures venting on my desktop) and for Gui's in bigger Batch-Projects

Which button and which website?
The website I meant is: https://www.dcmembers.com/skwire/contact/

If you have got any questions or just something to say you can email me anytime

Thanks
hxr404

For the donation: Do you mind paysafecards? I don't have PayPal and don't konw where to buy Bitcoins without PayPal xD
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: Lintalist on November 29, 2020, 11:36 AM
Re GIF support: why not use Activex control e.g. a browser, to display it, takes care of GIF animations and transparency.
Title: Re: DONE: Open images without program window showing.
Post by: skwire on November 29, 2020, 12:53 PM
but I noticed, that the R,C,L and T,C,B doesn't work anymore for the x and y parameter

Thanks for testing.  I will fix that.   :)

Re GIF support: why not use Activex control e.g. a browser, to display it, takes care of GIF animations and transparency.

That's what I ended up doing.   :Thmbsup: