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Title: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 06, 2008, 12:33 PM
I got the update to Softmaker/Ashampoo Office cheaply thanks to Curt (pre-Christmas special)

To be honest I use it very little so cant really comment much on improvements over the 2006
(now has PowerPoint equivalent though),
but it's still very fast!

One thing I was looking forward to was PDF creation
Unfortunately it's terrible (- polite version :-\)

A simple one page table/text with two three* fonts came to 2MB :huh: with fonts embedded
and wouldnt even show properly on the same computer without the fonts embedded (fonts were Times New Roman and Courier* - shouldnt be rocket science). Final PDF was total gobbledegook actually

Dont want to put anyone off this programme just a little pipped (- polite version again..) and needed to let off some steam

un-PC, ever so slightly...
in the lite of recent topic/s I'm experimenting with "polite"
just doesnt make the grade for letting off steam though...
Feck it :P


* edit/ three fonts - third is arial, still no rocket science, OOo makes a PDF of 100KB or so of same file

EDIT/  an update corrected the PDF problem and it's quite good now - read post#9 in particular
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on January 10, 2008, 07:51 AM
Have you posted this in the SoftMaker forum? Just wondering because they are generally pretty quick to respond there and this issue would, I think, be fixed quickly if they can replicate it. Right, off to check the forum to see if it has been discussed...
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on January 10, 2008, 07:59 AM
Hmm... no one's mentioned it there. If you want to post in that forum, point your browser here: http://www.softmaker.com/forum/index.php. You might need to register to use the forum first...
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 10, 2008, 09:50 AM
tail between legs...suppose you right (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/WHISTLE.GIF)

when I use PDF export so seldom for word docs (once a month for an invoice!)
I'm lazy to follow up on it ...

well you made it very easy for me finding the link and all :) thanks Mike :up:
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 14, 2008, 03:14 PM
Hmm... no one's mentioned it there. If you want to post in that forum, point your browser here: http://www.softmaker.com/forum/index.php. You might need to register to use the forum first...

done, posted at their forums, will update here - [it's still a problem for me...or for me and Textmaker!]
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on January 14, 2008, 04:17 PM
Funny - I actually have SoftMaker Office 2008 installed (academic licencing is a wonderful thing) and had meant to test this out myself. Of course, I've forgotten. I'll try and do so today or tomorrow and post back here with my own "experiences".
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 15, 2008, 05:22 AM
Funny - I actually have SoftMaker Office 2008 installed (academic licencing is a wonderful thing) and had meant to test this out myself. Of course, I've forgotten. I'll try and do so today or tomorrow and post back here with my own "experiences".

please do :up:
there's relatively few posts at the Softmaker2008 forums yet so it would be great to know if this just me

Problems:
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 15, 2008, 05:32 AM
Mike!
check first are you using "revision 482" I'm not and Ashampoo version says I'm uptodate..so awaiting reply from Softmaker, will post again
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 15, 2008, 05:48 AM
Support/ServicePack/etc =
http://www.softmaker.com/english/servofw8_en.htm
for Version 482
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 15, 2008, 06:33 AM
well now much better :)
File with fonts embedded comes to 167KB

File without fonts embedded is readable except for the following

# it can handle é but not ´
# it cant handle ' a single apostrophe like would normally be used in Tom's or in some surnames e.g. O'Connor
# it cant handle euro symbol €
thread is here (http://www.softmaker.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=5802&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a) if anyone has PDF problems!
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: CWuestefeld on January 15, 2008, 08:14 AM
Just got a marketing email from them, touting their new 2008 release. It notes one significant difference between the Softmaker and Ashampoo versions of the product:

Please note that only genuine SoftMaker Office 2008 contains the BasicMaker macro language, not the licensed Ashampoo Office.

For the vast majority of users this probably doesn't matter, but the folks on DC are probably more likely to be power users that might want scripting capability.

Here are the major bullet points on the new version:
SoftMaker Office offers four new and improved applications:

  • TextMaker 2008 with many enhancements such as PDF export, OLE server capabilities, a style manager, print preview, envelope printing and, and, and...
  • PlanMaker 2008, the latest version of our spreadsheet application.
    Now with OLE server capability, PDF export, new calculation functions and many other improvements.
  • SoftMaker Presentations 2008, SoftMaker's brand new alternative to PowerPoint. Just as capable, but much easier to use!
  • BasicMaker 2008, our new VBA-compatible macro language that lets you automate TextMaker and PlanMaker like in Microsoft Office.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on January 15, 2008, 09:30 AM
One thing I'd like to know is if DataMaker (http://www.softmaker.com/english/dm_en.htm) - which is supposed to be released to beta January 2008 and as a full release February 2008 is going to be part of a service pack or available as an upgrade? I had really hoped that it was going to make it into the final release of 2008...
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: CWuestefeld on January 15, 2008, 12:53 PM
One thing I'd like to know is if DataMaker (http://www.softmaker.com/english/dm_en.htm)

After looking at their web site, I'm not enthused:
DataMaker 2008 works with any ODBC or ADO database. It will ship with a very fast database driver for the dBASE database format, but you are not limited to that: You can use DataMaker to access databases from MySQL, SQL Server, IBM DB/2, PostgreSQL, Oracle, Microsoft Access etc. – all databases for which ODBC or ADO drivers exist. (emphasis mine)

dBase is a nonstarter for me, since there's no provision for protecting it from multiprocess accesses. Your average Joe won't be able to set up mySQL, and if you've got Access, Oracle, SQL Server, etc., then I don't see much that this product will offer.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on January 15, 2008, 02:31 PM
Hmm... I'm on revision 482 already, but thanks for directing me to check for updates, Tom! I'm checking out pdf creation now (well, next, actually) and will report back.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on January 15, 2008, 02:44 PM
Well... SoftMaker TextMaker (rev. 482) exported a 63kb, 4 page, Word Document to a pdf that is 134kb in size. This is with the "embed only embedable font"s setting applied and at Low (96dpi) quality with auto table of contents generated. I printed the same file from within SoftMaker to Scansoft PDF Creator at medium quality with embed fonts enabled and it produced a pdf of just 16kb in size (complete with TOC). So... the current SoftMaker revision is better than it was, but far from optimized.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 15, 2008, 02:53 PM
well, with version 482 it works okay as long as you embed fonts and select "Embed only used characters"
as said in post #9 I had some problems with obscure characters when fonts arent embedded

üüps, missed your last post
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 15, 2008, 03:06 PM
Well... SoftMaker TextMaker (rev. 482) exported a 63kb, 4 page, Word Document to a pdf that is 134kb in size. This is with the "embed only embedable font"s setting applied and at Low (96dpi) quality with auto table of contents generated. I printed the same file from within SoftMaker to Scansoft PDF Creator at medium quality with embed fonts enabled and it produced a pdf of just 16kb in size (complete with TOC). So... the current SoftMaker revision is better than it was, but far from optimized.
you sure Scansoft is embedding those fonts :tellme: thats incredibly small, mind you I usually make PDFs with more than one font. The quality usually only effects graphics (I think)

[edit] I think the 134kb file size would be similar to OpenOffice/Nova PDF going by my test files here
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 15, 2008, 03:45 PM
I also got an email from Softmaker
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BasicMaker manual as a PDF file
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You requested it, we complied... Now you can download the full
documentation for the BasicMaker macro language as a PDF file from
our web site - perfect for reading and printing.

Download:
http://www.softmaker.net/down/bm2008manual_en.pdf
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on January 15, 2008, 05:59 PM
Busted! You're right - the Scansoft option was to embed non-standard fonts. My document only contains Times New Roman. Switching to "embed all fonts" in Scansoft results in a 123kb file. I owe SoftMaker an apology  :o :-[
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on January 16, 2008, 04:18 AM
Busted! You're right - the Scansoft option was to embed non-standard fonts. My document only contains Times New Roman. Switching to "embed all fonts" in Scansoft results in a 123kb file. I owe SoftMaker an apology  :o :-[
so Texttmaker make one almost half the size of Scansofts! - that's probably due to the "Embed only used characters" option

...
File without fonts embedded is readable except for the following

# it can handle é but not ´ *
# it cant handle ' a single apostrophe like would normally be used in Tom's or in some surnames e.g. O'Connor
# it cant handle euro symbol €
-
they dont seem too interested in resolving the above issues -
(they blamed Adobe - who probably dont help but werent the problem here)
it probably is safer to embed fonts but it's always nice to have options... :-\

* for some reason they normally use ´ (as in é without the e) instead of apostrophe here in Germany - I think because the apostrophe isnt natively used

[edit] added some emphasis!
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on January 16, 2008, 08:47 AM
so Texttmaker make one almost half the size of Scansofts! - that's probably due to the "Embed only used characters" option

No - it was the original word doc that was 63kb - TextMaker produced a pdf from it that is 134kb in size versus Scansoft's 123kb pdf. They're close, though (and it's almost impossible to exactly line up the ticked options in each, so this probably isn't a fair comparison anyway).

I'll have to try this little experiment again with a more complex document - I literally went for the first that I found! I'll try to remember to do so later today. If I can replicate this and start prodding SoftMaker for a fix as well, maybe something will happen.


edit by jgpaiva: fixed quote tag
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: TucknDar on March 20, 2008, 09:04 AM
*BUMP*

I'm curious as to how well it writes (and reads) MS Office docs. I mostly use OpenOffice, but seeing as this company claims they have full compatibility with ms office I might be interested. Did any of you try to save documents with several pictures, frame boxes and formatting and then look at it in word?
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on March 20, 2008, 09:13 AM
*BUMP*

I'm curious as to how well it writes (and reads) MS Office docs. I mostly use OpenOffice, but seeing as this company claims they have full compatibility with ms office I might be interested. Did any of you try to save documents with several pictures, frame boxes and formatting and then look at it in word?

that's why I got it TucknDar -
I was having trouble with formatting and tables getting messed up going from OOo to Word

I'm very happy with it but I dont put it to much use to be honest -
with tables seems fine, pics I dont know...

I know Darwin had a few reservations about formatting I'm sure he'll post about them..
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: TucknDar on March 20, 2008, 09:20 AM
thanks, tomos! Now let's see what Darwin has to say :)
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Armando on March 20, 2008, 09:40 PM
When I tested textmaker a while ago (2006) it was able to convert very well -- albeit not perfectly -- my immensely complex documents full of tables, frames, drawings, etc. Sometimes, some aspects of the layout were not preserved perfectly : frames were not positioned exactly at the same place (it could be that the new version converts better though), or something like that. At that time, I actually found that Open Office was usually much better at preserving the layout... Oh well.

Must add that I didn't try the reverse process you describe: saving a doc in textmaker and opening it in MS Word. (Stupid, I know.)

Some of the reasons I can quickly remember concerning why I didn't buy Textmaker -- apart form the layout problems I was not ready to deal with : 1- I couldn't find how to "hide" comments the way MS Word can (and have them appear in a separate pane so that it does not mess the with pagination), 2- scrolling was not as smooth and full featured (I scroll a lot, I need multiple speeds), 3- contrarily to Zaine, I didn't find that it started as fast as MS Word, 4- I'm addicted to MS Words outlining capabilities, 5- French proofing was definitely not as sophisticated. That's all I can remember for now, but there were probably better reasons, of course ;).

It's still an outstanding product.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: TucknDar on March 21, 2008, 12:54 AM
Yes, I'm trying it and it seems to be very good Office suite. Still need some time to see whether it's worth buying though. It starts very fast, btw!
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on March 21, 2008, 04:34 AM
Yeah,
I should point out I was mainly concerned with "saving a doc in textmaker and opening it in MS Word"
But as said already I havent really tested/pushed it much
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: TucknDar on March 21, 2008, 04:50 AM
I tried a few simple things with boxes and images placed above each other and some wrapping here and there, and everything seemed fine txtmaker->word

But a full document with extensive formatting would make for a proper test. I think I've got some laying around...
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: TomColvin on May 09, 2008, 04:52 PM
I'm glad my search of the forum turned up this thread.  I got a notice about the special discount of Ashampoo Office 3 [$29.95] and am now evaluating it.  So far, I like it a lot.  Will likely do a post about it on my writer's blog.

I'm also investigating word processors that run off a USB stick, as does this software.  I've identified about 10 of them so far.  As I travel a lot, the USB stick may be a useful option for me.  Especially since the US court decision that allows US customs to examine and seize anyone's computer for no announced reason whatsoever!
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on May 09, 2008, 04:59 PM
Especially since the US court decision that allows US customs to examine and seize anyone's computer for no announced reason whatsoever!

Er... wouldn't that mandate likely extend to media as well?
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on June 02, 2008, 05:00 AM
this may be of interest to some

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now available: SoftMaker Office 2008 for Pocket PCs
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

After extensive beta testing, we are proud to announce that SoftMaker
Office 2008 for Pocket PCs is shipping and ready for purchase.

This new version of our mobile office suite has significant advantages:

NEW: SoftMaker Presentations, the mobile alternative to PowerPoint
NEW: PDF export in all Office applications
NEW: Printing from all applications (JETCET PRINT is bundled)
NEW: Many new features in TextMaker 2008 and PlanMaker 2008

If you wish to edit Word, Excel, and PowerPoint files on the Pocket PC
without losing formatting or content, SoftMaker Office is your only
choice. There is no other mobile office suite that reads and writes
your Office documents as faithfully as SoftMaker Office 2008.

Find out more:
http://www.softmaker.com/
-
any further comments from those of you testing Word><Textmaker formatting -ah,
I just found Toms Colvin's review

  TextMaker: Why It Excites Me

Published by Tom Colvin on May 14, 2008 11:25 pm under 6-Alternative Office Suites, 4-Alternatives to Word
http://becoming-a-writer-seriously.com/2008/05/14/textmaker-why-it-excites-me/
&
an update/some follow-up comments from Softmaker
http://becoming-a-writer-seriously.com/2008/05/22/update-on-softmaker-office/
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on June 05, 2008, 05:12 AM
and a service pack for Softmaker/Ashampoo Office

Service Pack 490 for SoftMaker Office 2008 for Windows (http://www.softmaker.com/english/servofw8_en.htm)
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on June 05, 2008, 08:27 AM
Thanks for the heads up, Tom  :Thmbsup: What I LOVE about SoftMaker/Ashampoo Office is how quickly it opens up and how comparably fully featured it is. I'm waiting impatiently for DataMaker to be released - hope (with a sense of futility) that it will be included as part of a Service Pack for SM Office 2008. Suspect it will be sold as a standalone product initially and included in the next full Office release.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on June 05, 2008, 08:48 AM
I'm waiting impatiently for DataMaker to be released

looks interesting - I havent a clue about databases though, guess I'm learning a bit using SQLNotes
Of course, you'll get academic pricing - Softmaker Office is dirt cheap with that
(- just realised that's how come you can afford to indulge your software habit without going bankrupt :P )
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on June 05, 2008, 09:04 AM
Nah... still morally bankrupt!
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: aquaplaning on June 05, 2008, 11:20 AM
Seems SoftMaker is handing out free copies of SoftMaker Office 2008 at the moment...

www.softmakeroffice.com

They claim that they will switch to an abridged office version soon, but right now it seems to be the full thing. So, hurry while it lasts...
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: CWuestefeld on June 05, 2008, 11:36 AM
Seems SoftMaker is handing out free copies of SoftMaker Office 2008 at the moment...
Wow! This looks legit. The referenced site is owned by the same people that own softmaker.com.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on June 05, 2008, 12:55 PM
Can't find any mention of it at PCWorld though...
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on June 05, 2008, 01:08 PM
Can't find any mention of it at PCWorld though...

looks like an offer with the current mag :-\
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on June 05, 2008, 01:09 PM
Can't find any mention of it at PCWorld though...

looks like an offer with the current mag :-\

mind you the softmaker site is simply
softmaker.com
not
softmakeroffice.com

AND the softmaker link in the corner gets a 404
So,
who's willing to try it out ;D

Edit/ Kapersky says it's okay
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: CWuestefeld on June 05, 2008, 01:15 PM
I checked WHOIS. The softmakeroffice.com domain really is registered by the exact same people that own the softmaker.com domain.

I suppose they could be hacked, and this is an elaborate trojan horse...
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on June 05, 2008, 01:26 PM
AND the softmaker link in the corner gets a 404
So,
who's willing to try it out ;D

Edit/ Kapersky says it's okay

Softmaker Office
Download Now User Reviews Rate This Product
Softmaker Office
License Type: Trial
Price: $80
Date Added: Jan 2008
Operating Systems: Windows XP, Windows Vista
File Size: 38125KB
Downloads Count: 307
Author: SoftMaker
Replace Office 2003 with this fast, free, compatible suite.
-http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,69287-order,1-page,1/description.html
that's the only ref to it I could find - they give the price, call it free, & at the end of the article call it a trial :tellme: (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/2Signs/score001.gif) :mad:
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on June 05, 2008, 01:41 PM
Ha, ha... thanks guys! I'd already downloaded it anyway, mind you. I have a licence for the suitie already, but thought I'd install the freebie on another computer. Haven't done so, yet, but will report back with the result after doing so  :)
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: PPLandry on June 05, 2008, 01:53 PM
Strange...

I downloaded it from the softmakeroffice site and saved it to disk.
I then found the PCWorld page where it is referenced and evidently, it is a 30 day trial. I downloaded the PCWorld version and my virus checker clains it is Win32: Trojan-gen Virus/Worm...
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Dormouse on June 05, 2008, 01:56 PM
I have a licence for the suitie already,
Of course  ;)
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: CWuestefeld on June 05, 2008, 02:30 PM
I then found the PCWorld page where it is referenced and evidently, it is a 30 day trial. I downloaded the PCWorld version and my virus checker clains it is Win32: Trojan-gen Virus/Worm...
Of course that's a trial. The link from PCWorld is clearly to a trial. The question is whether the D/L from SoftMakerOffice.com is a trial (or a trojan, for that matter)
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: PPLandry on June 05, 2008, 06:26 PM
I inquired to them and got this answer back:

-----------------
yes, it is a legitimate offer. We were caught off-guard by PC World releasing
their magazine a bit early (the free offer is an ad in PC World), so we put up
the readily available Office 2008.

It will be replaced by SoftMaker Office 2006 in about one hour.

Best,

------------
And checking again, the page was indeed updated

Now since I downloaded it a couple hours ago, I have Office 2008 .exe. It scans clean.  :)
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on June 06, 2008, 12:32 PM
I installed the installation files for Office 2008 as downloaded from www.softmakeroffice.com yesterday and it installed on my other machine fine. It doesn't say it's a trial but it's not registered, either... I wonder if this is going to "die" 30 days from now, though it *is* the full installer and not the trial installer (when you purchase the software, you are given a link to download the non-trial version)?
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on June 07, 2008, 11:54 AM
UPDATE: I hit "Register Now" in the pop-up dialogue that appeared when I started one of the suite's applications and was re-directed to a webpage promising that upon registration a serial number would be sent to me. This, indeed, is exactly what happened. So... if you downloaded the installer for SO 2008 from www.softmakeroffice.com the other day and have held off installing it - go ahead! This is the real deal...  :Thmbsup:

Note: if you download now you'll get SO 2006, which lacks the BasicMaker and the Presentations modules but PlanMaker and TextMaker are excellent!
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Curt on August 28, 2008, 03:12 PM
Service Pack 494 for SoftMaker Office 2008 for Windows (http://www.softmaker.com/english/servofw8_en.htm)
Can also be used to update Ashampoo Office 2008. Cannot be used to update trial versions.

 List of changes in this Service Pack:

All applications:
The Swiss German spell-checker now suggests words with "ss" when a "ß" was entered.

TextMaker 2008:
Improved RTF import

Improved Word-Export
Word 6.0 files created by TextMaker can now be opened by itself again (this bug was introduced in revision 493).

 
PlanMaker 2008:
PlanMaker now correctly releases memory that was allocated during editing and scrolling through worksheets (this bug was introduced in revision 493). This led to very slow response times after some working with a worksheet.

Improved display of 3D charts
The OLE Automation property Sheet.Name now allows renaming a sheet to its already used name.

SoftMaker Presentations 2008:
Pictures can now be pasted with Edit/Paste (previously, you had to use Edit/Paste Special)
-SoftMaker
http://www.softmaker.com/english/servofw8_en.htm
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on August 28, 2008, 03:14 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Curt  :Thmbsup: Downloading it now...
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: TucknDar on August 28, 2008, 04:49 PM
This really is a great office suite!
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: fenixproductions on October 03, 2008, 09:36 AM
Just a little note...
Softmaker 2006 went free:
http://www.softmakeroffice.com/
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: SoftMaker on October 26, 2008, 10:40 AM
In preparation for Halloween, we have just posted some Halloween document templates for TextMaker 2006, TextMaker 2008, and SoftMaker Presentations 2008 here:

http://www.softmaker.com/english/halloween_en.htm

This is a free download.

Martin Kotulla
SoftMaker Software GmbH
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on March 20, 2009, 05:34 AM
There's a special upgrade price of $12.99 for "owners of older versions of TextMaker, PlanMaker, SoftMaker Office, or Ashampoo Office"
for upgrade to Softmaker Office 2008

If you have any of these products registered check for recent email from Softmaker  [Make the switch: SoftMaker Office 2008 now even more affordable]
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: mwb1100 on March 20, 2009, 12:59 PM
There's a special upgrade price of $12.99...

The email I got said €12.99 or $14.99.  USD price is good for "United States and Canada only", but I'm not sure how well that is enforced.

Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on March 20, 2009, 01:25 PM
I wonder if something like UltraSurf (http://www.ultrareach.com/) would help if the "US and Canada" only thing is enforced by checking your IP address... ?! Of course, my experience is that the stumbling block is usually more simply billing address fields that are fillable only by selecting a state or a province from a pulldown menu... Example: I'm in Canada and I cannot buy a copy of Microsoft Research's AutoCollage because there is no Canadian MS store. B$!
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: mwb1100 on March 21, 2009, 03:52 PM
Just got an email from Ashampoo with a coupon for Ashampoo Office 2008 for $7.99:  DCT-MTN-LW6

I have no idea when the coupon might expire.

My understanding is that Ashampoo Office 2008 is the same as Softmaker Office 2008 with the exception that Ashampoo's offering doesn't support scripting which Softmaker's does (someone correct me please if I'm wrong).

Just remember to uncheck the various add-on costs for support and download 'protection' (unless you really want them).

http://www.ashampoo.com
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: mwb1100 on June 03, 2009, 01:49 AM
New deal for Ashampoo Office 2008.

Click this link for a $4.99 price (not sure when it will expire):

http://r.ashampoo.com/r.php?id=24212&ri=tad8&lk=8e6icaPL (http://r.ashampoo.com/r.php?id=24212&ri=tad8&lk=8e6icaPL)

As always with Ashampoo, make sure you uncheck the unnecessary download protection and other junk add-ons.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on June 03, 2009, 08:26 AM
Wow! Great find, mwb1100  :Thmbsup: I have a licence already and recommend this deal to anyone looking for a lightweight, comprehensive and powerful Office suite. I'm curious to see what's in the next version... I wonder if the long promised DB application will appear?
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: CWuestefeld on June 03, 2009, 08:41 AM
I, too, recommend this. In fact, I just recently bought a Linux license of it for my netbook. IMHO, it's a *much* better product than OpenOffice, even factoring in that OO is free.

On the other hand, after looking at their description of the upcoming DB application, I'm not impressed with that. It looks like a clone of Access. That is ... OK. But Access has evolved into a monster, with all kinds of oddities as the product grew over time, and tried to remain compatible. I wish they'd started from a clean slate. (Or maybe I'm reading too much into their screen shots)
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Darwin on June 03, 2009, 12:19 PM
On the other hand, after looking at their description of the upcoming DB application, I'm not impressed with that. It looks like a clone of Access. That is ... OK. But Access has evolved into a monster, with all kinds of oddities as the product grew over time, and tried to remain compatible. I wish they'd started from a clean slate. (Or maybe I'm reading too much into their screen shots)

Heh, heh, I gave up following progress about 18 months ago as nothing seems to be being done with it... However, I *thought* that one of their goals WAS to start with a clean slate?
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: elpresi on July 09, 2009, 03:45 PM
Softmaker Office 2008 vs OO3.1:
http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/better-office-alternative-softmaker-office-bests-openofficeorg-445?page=0,0
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Crush on July 09, 2009, 03:54 PM
I had a lot of problems with bigger texts intense using tabulators. OpenOffice destroyed the original word-files (3.1 also). Softmaker Office was absolutely compatible and I had no problems with it till now. It has some things I don´t like in using it, but its more important to get along with M$ Office.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on July 10, 2009, 06:12 AM
this is still valid today (the 'for free' one) - I just tried it.

For those interested in Softmaker office 2008, there is a killer Ashampoo deal (same as Softmaker):

http://r.ashampoo.com/mailings/1/090410_en.htm   for $4.99

Or for free (http://for-free-on-internet.com/2009/07/ashampoo-office-2008-for-windows-4-free-again/) if you're quick.

maybe they're bringing out a new version soon
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Curt on December 17, 2009, 02:06 PM
... I'm waiting impatiently for DataMaker to be released ...

I remember reading about DataMaker some years ago, but it seems SoftMaker has given up on writing it. Maybe BasicMaker has substituted? SoftMaker will of course say NO! because they are still "developing" DataMaker:


SoftMaker is currently working on these applications:

DataMaker for Windows
DataMaker is the ideal end-user database: Open any database and create queries, forms, reports, labels, even small applications with ease. Just use it, no need to write code.
Please note: DataMaker is not shipping yet. The non-public alpha test is already running; the public beta test will start later.

We are blessed to know that it will be a fantastic program - I mean, several years in development?! Meanwhile, I now have this BasicMaker. Perhaps, one day in the future I may even find a job for it.

BasicMaker 2010 automates SoftMaker Office: it lets you write BASIC macros that complete recurring tasks in TextMaker and PlanMaker.

BasicMaker is compatible with Visual Basic for Applications (VBA). It allows you to write small scripts or programs that execute commands in TextMaker and PlanMaker. If you have repetitive tasks in SoftMaker Office that you wish to automate, BasicMaker is the tool for you.

Syntaxwise, BasicMaker is modeled after Visual Basic for Applications (VBA), and its OLE Automation object model is a subset of Microsoft Office's. If you already have experience in macro writing with Microsoft Office, you'll be up to speed with SoftMaker Office macros in no time at all.

Care for a small sample?

Print "Name of current document:"
Print tm.ActiveDocument.FullName

If this looks familiar to you, you are on your way to becoming a proficient macro developer for SoftMaker Office.

On the other hand, if this looks a bit baffling, that's not a problem either: A detailed electronic manual will introduce you to macro programming with BasicMaker.

Note: If you wish to create scripts for SoftMaker Office in other languages than BASIC, you can! TextMaker and PlanMaker can be scripted from nearly all programming languages, such as Python, Perl, Ruby, C++, and Delphi.


I am pleased with Office 2010, but if you don't need to have the newest I would say Office 2008 may be a better deal; it is for certain worth every penny...:

Download SoftMaker Office 2008 for free, and SoftMaker donates money!

Talk about donationware...

Softmaker Office 2008 is available for free, with the added bonus of the Softmaker company donating 10 Euro cents for each completed download! Great office suite and great deal!

http://www.loadandhelp.de/home-en.html
 
   
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: rjbull on December 17, 2009, 02:53 PM
I am pleased with Office 2010, but if you don't need to have the newest I would say Office 2008 may be a better deal; it is for certain worth every penny...:

Curt, please, what advantages does 2010 have over 2008 for you?
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on December 17, 2009, 03:15 PM
Curt, please, what advantages does 2010 have over 2008 for you?

I was curious too - site only says
The Top Five new features in SoftMaker Office 2010:

Support for the DOCX and XLSX file formats from Microsoft Office 2007   

Comes with 3 licenses for home and business use

Presentation-quality charts in PlanMaker

Breathtaking DirectX-based animations and slide transitions in SoftMaker Presentations   

Document tabs for easy switching between open documents
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: TucknDar on December 17, 2009, 04:00 PM
for me tabs and docx support are major additions. There are also several small things that improves the product. I'll upgrade when they've got the educational pricing for 2010 going.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Curt on December 17, 2009, 07:59 PM
Curt, please, what advantages does 2010 have over 2008 for you?
I was curious too -

- none, yet, for the very simple reason that I am trial-testing Microsoft Office 2010 at the moment. I only upgraded SoftMaker  to have it! I have only tried TextMaker.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: tomos on December 18, 2009, 04:26 AM
Curt, please, what advantages does 2010 have over 2008 for you?
I was curious too -

- none, yet, for the very simple reason that I am trial-testing Microsoft Office 2010 at the moment. I only upgraded SoftMaker  to have it! I have only tried TextMaker.

which has to lead to the question:-
are you trialling MS Office because somethings missing in Softmaker Office ?
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Curt on December 18, 2009, 06:34 AM
Curt, please, what advantages does 2010 have over 2008 for you?
I was curious too -

- none, yet, for the very simple reason that I am trial-testing Microsoft Office 2010 at the moment. I only upgraded SoftMaker  to have it! I have only tried TextMaker.

which has to lead to the question:-
are you trialling MS Office because somethings missing in Softmaker Office ?

- no, I am trialling because I could! I have MS Office 2003 Standard, but cannot afford "at the moment" to upgrade to version 2010, so the beta trial of Ultimate 2010 was a fine chance to see what I am missing...plus, the beta stage may make the trial period a little longer than normal.

What I like the best about SoftMaker 2010 is the speed and smoothness. In SoftMaker I can have my document all done before MS is ready to even begin! I am not really in a position to talk about specific features.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: Crush on December 18, 2009, 08:43 AM
@CWuestefeld: Now you can also download all 3 different Linux-Installers of Softmaker Office 2008  :Thmbsup:
Don´t forget to download all Manuals (not included in the installer) and their monthly Free Fonts from the linked sites!
Perhaps you want to try Softmaker Office 2010beta free? It´s worth it.
You can update from this free 2008 version to the full 2010 like a normal customer - that´s much cheaper than the regular price.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: CWuestefeld on December 18, 2009, 10:02 AM
Now you can also download all 3 different Linux-Installers of Softmaker Office 2008  :Thmbsup:
I own the 2008 version of the app in all three flavors: Windows, Linux, and PocketPC.

The Linux version was the easiest install of any 3rd party app I've encountered. It took me 2 minutes, compared to, say, XBMC, which took me at least an hour.
Title: Re: Textmaker (Softmaker/Ashampoo Office) 2008
Post by: TucknDar on December 18, 2009, 10:17 AM
Now you can also download all 3 different Linux-Installers of Softmaker Office 2008  :Thmbsup:
I own the 2008 version of the app in all three flavors: Windows, Linux, and PocketPC.
I own the Windows and Linux version. As you may know, owners of 2008 for linux will get 2010 (for linux obviously) for free!  :up: