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News and Reviews => Mini-Reviews by Members => Topic started by: brotherS on April 12, 2006, 06:06 AM
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I recently read about MLB/Mouseless Browsing on https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=2842.0
MLB (http://www.rudolf-noe.de/MouselessBrowsing.htm) is a Firefox extension, I chose to install version 0.4.1 Beta.
Basic Principle
Mouseless browsing bases on appending small boxes with unique ids for all links, form elements and frames to the page. You can trigger an action (e.g. following the link) by simply entering the id and depending on the configuration confirming it by pressing Enter.
As DC user vamp07 said in the other thread, I quickly noticed it makes sense to change the delay from 500 to 750 ms and to set the Numpad0 key to toggle visibility of the IDs.
A picture says more than 1000 words, so have a look:
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7048/dcpostmouselessbrowsing16ri.png)
On that screenshot I marked three places, which have so-called IDs:
A = 176 (quote)
B = 180 (shoutcast.com, external link)
C = 188 (reply)
All I now have to do is to quote Carol is to hit Ctrl and type 176, if I would type 180 the new page would open in another tab (depends on how you set up Firefox) and if I would type 188 while holding Ctrl down I'd just reply, without quoting.
This is an extremely helpful extension! Being a true keyboard user I was always annoyed when having to grab the mouse.
These settings are working fine for me (I didn't change the "Styles" tab values):
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4823/dcpostmouselessbrowsing29vp.png)
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8862/dcpostmouselessbrowsing30hm.png)
Google Mail users might want to pay special attention to the setting I highlighted in the last screenshot. By default MLB uses the "/" key of the Numpad here - which allows you to easily jump to Google Mail's search field!
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Can you assign specific numbers or are they generated page by page? If they change all the time it looks like hard work to me!
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Can you assign specific numbers or are they generated page by page? If they change all the time it looks like hard work to me!
-Carol Haynes
Well... as long as pages have the same layout the same IDs will appear. But even if the IDs change for every page, how is that hard work for a true keyboard user (who doesn't have to look at the keys when typing)?
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What ever lights your candle :-* :-* :-* :-*
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That looks very nice, a good way of browsing. I do something similar myself, with opera, but i have to cycle through all the links.
I'm only sad for one thing:
MLB (http://www.rudolf-noe.de/MouselessBrowsing.htm) is a Firefox extension, I chose to install version 0.4.1 Beta.
-brotherS
:( :(
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That looks very nice, a good way of browsing. I do something similar myself, with opera, but i have to cycle through all the links.
-jgpaiva
That was the way I was doing it before... and it *sucked* a lot! :o
@Carol: Huh? :) Just try it (if you are using Firefox) - it might look complicated, but it's great fun to use!
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@BrotherS: actually, in opera, i also use a similar thing to that. When i press comma ',' i can write the name of the link, and it gets selected. :D
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@BrotherS: actually, in opera, i also use a similar thing to that. When i press comma ',' i can write the name of the link, and it gets selected. :D
-jgpaiva
But isn't typing a 2- or 3-digit number ~218% faster? At least? 8)
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But isn't typing a 2- or 3-digit number ~218% faster? At least? 8)
-brotherS
Point taken, you win. ;)
But still, that can't make me leave my beloved opera :tellme:
Still, great mini-review!!! :D
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looks like a brilliant idea, only one problem, i use maxthon. the hunt now begins for a similar plugin...
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looks like a brilliant idea, only one problem, i use maxthon. the hunt now begins for a similar plugin...
-nudone
I used to use Avant Browser for a long time - like Maxthon based on IE. Maybe you'd like Firefox too? :)
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i'm holding out for as long as i can. oh, go on then, i'll try it over the weekend.
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@Carol: Huh? :) Just try it (if you are using Firefox) - it might look complicated, but it's great fun to use!
-brotherS
OK since you're keen :-[
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Being dense here - how do you get the options windows for this? I can't see anythingin the menus or toolbars ??
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@Carol: Huh? :) Just try it (if you are using Firefox) - it might look complicated, but it's great fun to use!
-brotherS
OK since you're keen :-[
-Carol Haynes
Try it now, you WILL be satisfied!
If not, money back! Full refund, no questions asked ;)
PS: Just kidding, it's free (you, Carol, know that of course)
PPS: I opened this thread and replied by using the keyboard only, thanks to MLB :)
PPPS: Just when I was about to send it, the forum told me about your additional post. Just go to Tools/Extensions, right-click the new extension there. Many extensions don't add their own menu or stuff to the existing ones.
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Ah, I see - I have to use the mouse LOL !!!
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Ah, I see - I have to use the mouse LOL !!!
-Carol Haynes
classic!
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Hehe :D
(of course you could also use the context menu key instead, but I thought you might want to use the mouse one last time ;) )
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that addin is really quite ingenius
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I like the fact you can toggle it on and off too with the numerical keypad . so I only need to see it when I want to.
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that addin is really quite ingenius
-mouser
You are using it too now?
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:) Great tool! So great, in fact, that I felt compelled to write a Windows version!
It's just a preview, I'll finish it tomorrow. And if someone knows how to extract the buttons from toolbars, the contents of Internet Explorer windows, and more, please let me know!
LabelControl - labels the controls of the active window with Numbers, for direct access via Ctrl+Number.
Skrommel
(https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/LabelControl/LabelControlScreen.gif)
AHK: https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/LabelControl/LabelControls.ahk (https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/LabelControl/LabelControl.ahk)
EXE: https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/LabelControl/LabelControl.exe (https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/LabelControl/LabelControl.exe)
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:) Great tool! So great, in fact, that I felt compelled to write a Windows version!
LabelControls - labels the controls of the active window with Numbers, for direct access via Ctrl+Number.
-skrommel
Awesome idea! :up:
And if someone knows how to extract the buttons from toolbars, the contents of Internet Explorer windows, and more, please let me know!
I hope someone here knows the answer to that.
It's just a preview, I'll finish it tomorrow.
Great, I'll try the next version, not enough time right now.
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amazing.
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Anyone heard of a Virtual keyboard? This is where an Infro-red light shines a Virtual keyboard on any surface...If anyone has used one how effective is it? :tellme:
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Anyone heard of a Virtual keyboard? This is where an Infro-red light shines a Virtual keyboard on any surface...
-Baseman
What about asking that question in the "what kind of keyboard you use?" thread? :-[ https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?action=search2;search=keyboard
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So... mouser, nudone, Carol, (anyone else?) - how do you like using MLB on a daily basis? :)
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i'm too much of a mouse addict to use it but it looks damn cool.
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ditto - I have checked the option to only make the links appear on request.
I do find I use it a bit but most of the time I am still mousing around ;)
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er, i'm still using maxthon at the moment.
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Hi brotherS ...
Looks like you found a "must have" extension that you like.
Mind if I use it in a couple of weeks?
http://freewarewiki.com/MouselessBrowsing
Later ...
Clif
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Simply awesome, now i can sell my mouse.
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Looks like you found a "must have" extension that you like.
Mind if I use it in a couple of weeks?
http://freewarewiki.com/MouselessBrowsing
-clif_notes
No problem, go ahead and spread the word! It's a very helpful extension that needs to be known by WAY more people :)
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brotherS: Good extension. This is copied fron HitAHint though and of course made better. Can you confirm that this doesn't work properly and as expected in Google image search pages (try going to next page or the id of say, 3rd or 4th page of the results)?
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brotherS: Good extension. This is copied fron HitAHint though and of course made better. Can you confirm that this doesn't work properly and as expected in Google image search pages (try going to next page or the id of say, 3rd or 4th page of the results)?
-sri
Strange, you are right... you can report that bug and hope for a fix.
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this sounds wonderful, and the screenshots look interesting...but here i am, i DL the program...and then: nothing? (i conclude from the remarks in this thread that i does not work in Opera...but where *does* it work?). and how does one set the settings, by what rules/instructions?
much obliged for any help,
chrisk
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this sounds wonderful, and the screenshots look interesting...but here i am, i DL the program...and then: nothing? (i conclude from the remarks in this thread that i does not work in Opera...but where *does* it work?). and how does one set the settings, by what rules/instructions?
much obliged for any help,
chrisk
-chrisk
Sorry, chrisk. Although MLB does look good, it's only for the firefox browser. You can get it at www.getfirefox.com
(still, don't worry, you already use a fantastic browser ;) )
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no no, i meant LabelControl by Skrommel!!!
my questions pertain to LabelControl!!!
should i be posting this somewhere else?
chrisk
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Well... You should post at skrommel's area, https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?board=57.0 .
I'm sorry i didn't understand your post.
After running the program, you press ctrl and the numbers come up. Then, just press the number of the control you'd like to activate.
Try first for the run dialog, which is certain to work.
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thanks!
chrisk