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Title: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: mrHappy on September 01, 2008, 09:32 AM: I've been wanting to get COD4 (and preferably on steam) for some time, but I am not really to fond of the part where I have to pay $69.99 + tax, which in my case is 25% making the game almost $90. Especially if I can get the game for the US price which is only $49.99.

I'm hoping that some of the american DC users are using steam and would help me getting the game by them buying it and sending it to me as a gift.
I would prefer to send the money through paypal or donationcredits* to whomever decides to help me. Then again I don't really think there are other possibilites.

*hopefully someone can refresh my memory here, I can't remember if paypal takes an amount of the donated money, IE you donate $10 but paypal takes some of it and you end up with only ... $9 for donationcredits.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: y0himba on September 01, 2008, 11:51 AM: I can help you out. My wife says the money needs to go in Paypal first though, and since I am poor, that's a necessity. Contact me by Email, y0himba(at)gmail(dot)com. I already have COD4, so I will purchase it and then gift it to you over Steam.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: mouser on September 01, 2008, 11:57 AM: paypal fee calculator: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=11809.0

(paypal takes their fee from any donation before we even see it)
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: mediaguycouk on September 01, 2008, 12:27 PM: I thought donationcoder absorbed the paypal fee meaning you should give a little more
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: Deozaan on September 01, 2008, 12:47 PM: I don't like the idea of installing a program that downloads and manages and installs games for me.

Is Steam really all it's cracked up to be? Does it phone home or run when it's not supposed to? Does it hide itself as a service that runs automatically when my PC starts up?
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: y0himba on September 01, 2008, 01:08 PM: A: Phoning home is useful unless you are running a stolen or "warez" version of a software, not a concern for valid, non-malicious software. (not including malware etc.) Don't believe the hype.

B: Services don't "hide" unless they are malicious. If it is a valid service it is easily viewable through the services snap-in or console commands.

C: Yes it runs when Windows starts up if you choose to let it. It only installs a service under Windows Vista.

To me, Steam is a Godsend. I can format this computer, or any other one, install Steam, and all my Steam purchased games are there. The download takes a while of course, but in the end it's just like offsite storage. I can also back up all my game files to a DVD, reinstall Steam, and restore, only needing updates to reduce the download time.

You can only log into your account one time, meaning no multiple logins to the same user account.

The communication system in Steam has evolved to include IN GAME chat to anyone on your friends list, either voice or text. You can chat with multiple people and hold voice conferences with many folks talking at once, all over Steam.

It's a plus in my opinion.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: mrHappy on September 01, 2008, 01:11 PM: Thanks for offering your help y0himba , a mail has been sent.

To me, Steam is a Godsend. I can format this computer, or any other one, install Steam, and all my Steam purchased games are there. The download takes a while of course, but in the end it's just like offsite storage.

You can also choose to backup your games or, if you have them on a different partion just reinstall steam in that directory.

And as a small sidenote, you can't play TF2 (on the pc) without steam :)
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: y0himba on September 01, 2008, 01:30 PM: I bought it, but I have never really gotten into TF2. It's unbelievable how much I love COD4 though, but my true addiction is Counterstrike:Source.

I replied to your email BTW. You can add me on Steam as a friend, I included all the information. Be sure to email me with any questions or concerns.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: f0dder on September 02, 2008, 12:08 PM: STEAM rocks - and it generally means you don't get nasty & crappy driver-abusing software protections on the games.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: p3lb0x on September 02, 2008, 12:29 PM: Also, apparently steam is portable. I didn't have to reinstall it after I reinstalled windows
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: Deozaan on September 02, 2008, 04:50 PM: Another topic here was about Audiosurf, but I didn't download it because it required Steam. Maybe I'll reconsider...
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: f0dder on September 02, 2008, 05:02 PM: I was pretty skeptical about STEAM when it first appeared, and I had this whole "ah christ, now I need a silly launcher app just to play games" - but I quickly grew to like it. You don't need to have it auto-start with windows, you have a convenient game-list of all your STEAM games, it's easy to purchase online (although with big game releases, the servers tended to be a bit overburdened. That should be fixed with multi-server download which was introduced a while ago, though), auto-updates, et cetera.

But one of the biggest benefits, to me anyway, is still that the games tend not to have über-intrusive copy protection, instead relying on STEAMs much gentler mechanism.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: jgpaiva on September 02, 2008, 05:34 PM: I think Steam was the best thing that happened in the gaming world.
I had never bought genuine games prior to using steam, and since I use it, I've already bought 3! (which, coincidentally, were the only games I played in that time, except for the free trackmania nations).
It's easy to buy, it's usually way cheaper than in stores (at least around here), and it's MUCH more confortable than having to carry and save the CDs and cases.
As a person who tends to loose "real world" stuff, I think this is the perfect solution to keep everything at hand ;)
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: Lashiec on September 02, 2008, 05:51 PM: Is Steam really all it's cracked up to be? Does it phone home or run when it's not supposed to? Does it hide itself as a service that runs automatically when my PC starts up?
-Deozaan (September 01, 2008, 12:47 PM)

It's not perfect, but it's much better than similar services, either devised for gaming (Direct2Drive and the like), or for music and video (yeah, that big sack of crap called iTunes). The unique problem I see in its future it's the reliance on DRM, which poses the question of what will happen with your games if Valve goes out of business (or another company buys them). You could say that something like that will never happen with Valve, but bigger companies fell despite it seemed they could do nothing wrong. Gabe Newell said unofficially that they will provide something if that happens, so I guess it's not a problem (we can always use other methods anyway *cough*).

Something that also worries me is that everyone seems to be in a "me too" stance, and they're releasing their own services, complete with frontends: Microsoft, Stardock... prolly others like EA or Activision could join the fest, as well as more "niche" companies.

Other than that, it's pretty nice. Not intrusive, takes care of your games, you can use as a frontend for other games you have in the computer, and the terms of service are reasonable. The option of letting you download the games as many times as you want it's what convinced me. That, and getting some free games thanks to my copy of Half-Life, and the nice offers they have for older games.

Personally, I'm more interested in things like Good Old Games (http://www.gog.com/en/intro), which don't tie you in any way, and have excellent prices. Of course, we're talking about games not available in physical shops, so I guess companies will not embrace it as an alternative method (with all the crazy talk about piracy, low prices and no DRM for PC games scare 99% of the game companies), but I think it will find its place in the net. In my case, I'm drooling over the perspective of almost stealing Operation Flashpoint and Fallout so...
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: Deozaan on September 02, 2008, 06:08 PM: So I just clicked the button in Steam to download the Audiosurf demo. Apparently it downloaded and preloaded Audiosurf (Full game) first, then started on downloading the demo... Not cool.

Anyway, I'll give it a try for a while more, though I haven't bought (or played, I guess) a new retail PC game for a couple years because I'd rather spend the money on console games.

Spore will be the first new PC game I've played/purchased since Oblivion, I think.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: Shades on September 02, 2008, 07:20 PM: My Problem with STEAM is the software itself. The concept behind it I wholeheartedly agree upon.

Trying to download the Trackmania Nations game through STEAM was impossible over here. It would continue the download when the connection broke. It wouldn't even let me start a new download from the same game (only after a re-install from STEAM it would).

I was finally able to do so by using plain simple HTTP connection through a SOCKS proxy. Steam gave me too much troubles but the concept behind it is a great one.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: ThalSwe on September 04, 2008, 10:16 AM: In the spirit of this thread i'll borrow it due to Steams reginal restrictions. Been wanting to get "Beyond Good and Evil" for a while now and as I really enjoy Steam and use it a lot I would love to get a hold of this game as well.
Can donate the money over PayPal or in the spirit of giving games gift back a game to the person who helps me (a slightly more expensive one that is so the person benefits from the trade).

Thanks in advance :)

If nothing else I can be found as Chris Fifty-Two (or ThalSwe) on Steam and always up for a friendly game or two.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: wreckedcarzz on September 04, 2008, 11:21 PM: Something that also worries me is that everyone seems to be in a "me too" stance, and they're releasing their own services, complete with frontends: Microsoft, Stardock... prolly others like EA or Activision could join the fest, as well as more "niche" companies.
-Lashiec (September 02, 2008, 05:51 PM)

Personally, I don't use Steam - I find it idiotic to buy a game online, and in order to do so, download a client to "manage" my games. And it has to stay installed, taking precious MB (my laptop had 555MB free of a 30GB XP partion this morning, now at 1.2GB due to cleaning it up as much as possible).

Anyways, EA jumped on the bandwagon long ago - EA Download Manager, a program I used to purchase and download Need for Speed Carbon Collectors Edition, has gone through lots of stages over several years. Same issue. I no longer have Carbon, or EADM, installed.

In a way, it's convenient - no disks, but then you have the 2 hour waiting period for the 4-6GB to download, whereas you have a disk and it is just install and play.

:two:
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: f0dder on September 05, 2008, 12:57 AM: Personally, I don't use Steam - I find it idiotic to buy a game online, and in order to do so, download a client to "manage" my games.
-wreckedcarzz (September 04, 2008, 11:21 PM)
What exactly makes this idiotic? You get reliable and multi-server (ie, FAST even on phat pipes like 20mbit ADSL) downloads using the steam client - more reliable than using a typical browser HTTP or FTP download.

And it has to stay installed, taking precious MB (my laptop had 555MB free of a 30GB XP partion this morning, now at 1.2GB due to cleaning it up as much as possible).
-wreckedcarzz (September 04, 2008, 11:21 PM)
Less than 50 megabytes for the STEAM platform on my system, and that seems to include some cache files etc. Keep in mind that this platform is used and shared by the installed games... if you take a typical StarForce protected game, you probably have executables of at least 16 megs per game, because that protection system bloats up the executables bigtime. With STEAM games, you don't (or at least shouldn't :)) get that.

Anyways, EA jumped on the bandwagon long ago - EA Download Manager, a program I used to purchase and download Need for Speed Carbon Collectors Edition, has gone through lots of stages over several years. Same issue. I no longer have Carbon, or EADM, installed.
-wreckedcarzz (September 04, 2008, 11:21 PM)
It's a real shame that several companies feel they need their own system. It's obvious why, though: cash. Might be solvable by doing some peering contract though, where other companies could use the STEAM system, and Valve would only get a small cut of the price.

In a way, it's convenient - no disks, but then you have the 2 hour waiting period for the 4-6GB to download, whereas you have a disk and it is just install and play.
-wreckedcarzz (September 04, 2008, 11:21 PM)
It's extremely convenient when you have fast broadband. Also, STEAM often lets you pre-download game content before the game is released, meaning that on release day you might not have to download any content at all, or perhaps a few hundred megabytes - meaning almost instant play as soon as the game is released.

Furthermore, you don't need to download the larger games, at least Valve's own titles when purchased on DVD still use the STEAM system. This means you get the same auto-update ease, the same non-messy game protection system etc., and without requiring a massive broadband line for the download.

The only real problem I can see with STEAM is that you need to have an internet connection to use it. Feels a bit silly for single-player games. But you can always choose "go offline" from the STEAM menu, which allows you to play your single-player (and LAN?) games without being connected to the net.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: jgpaiva on September 05, 2008, 04:52 AM: The only real problem I can see with STEAM is that you need to have an internet connection to use it. Feels a bit silly for single-player games. But you can always choose "go offline" from the STEAM menu, which allows you to play your single-player (and LAN?) games without being connected to the net.
-f0dder (September 05, 2008, 12:57 AM)
Also, that same method allows you to play something with your friends in LAN, without everyone actually owning the game ;)
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: wreckedcarzz on September 06, 2008, 01:43 AM: <rant & complaining>

I just don't like the fact that I need yet another program to do yet another task. I go through my list of programs every couple days looking for anything I can get rid of. It sounds weird, but when your strapped for hard drive space (C:\ has 12.2GB free as of right now) and you have to go to extremes to get to where your at now (free space wise), you really don't want something else that will have to have it's download caches cleaned and the friend's list files and whatnot. :-\

I have Xfire; Xfire launches the games I have, and lets me chat while I pwn (or be pwned, but the latter is much less in comparison to the former). To me, all I want is a friends list and a game launcher and Xfire handles that exactly as I want. Personal preference, but it just works with me.

And then you have those STEAM-ONLY games... whats up with that? I can't get a copy for my offline computers? What if you don't have internet or something, but you want this game, but only STEAM has it (no stores). It is like a monopoly on games. I had to *get* a copy of a game from a non-steam *source* just the other day for this reason- my laptop is offline 1/2 the time (school, on the go, etc).

The TB drive is here. I own a 111GB drive. 70GB is games already, Vista takes ~15GB equaling about 85GB. Add on Visual Studio, a slew of Adobe apps, all my hardware drivers, my 6 GB of family photos, all the usual programs, and you run short way before you think you will. I have to turn off System Restore, Hibernation, and even my SWAP FILE in order to keep enough space (I have hit below a GB free on C: before). It's like cramming 5 20 pound computers into 1 50 pound capacity box. You do the math. :wallbash:

</rant & complaining>
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: f0dder on September 06, 2008, 07:49 AM: I just don't like the fact that I need yet another program to do yet another task. I go through my list of programs every couple days looking for anything I can get rid of. It sounds weird, but when your strapped for hard drive space (C:\ has 12.2GB free as of right now) and you have to go to extremes to get to where your at now (free space wise), you really don't want something else that will have to have it's download caches cleaned and the friend's list files and whatnot. :-\
-wreckedcarzz (September 06, 2008, 01:43 AM)
AFAIK steam doesn't have "download caches", it has game content files (.gcf?). Those can be backed up & deleted, if you need space. Or just deleted, if you don't mind re-downloading. Just how much space does friend lists occupy? I can't imagine it'd be even a megabyte...

And then you have those STEAM-ONLY games... whats up with that? I can't get a copy for my offline computers? What if you don't have internet or something, but you want this game, but only STEAM has it (no stores). It is like a monopoly on games. I had to *get* a copy of a game from a non-steam *source* just the other day for this reason- my laptop is offline 1/2 the time (school, on the go, etc).
-wreckedcarzz (September 06, 2008, 01:43 AM)
There's lots of games that are only available for download on the internet and aren't present in physical stores - how's this any different from STEAM? Remember, you can "go offline" in STEAM, and play the games without being connected to the internet.

The TB drive is here. I own a 111GB drive. 70GB is games already, Vista takes ~15GB equaling about 85GB. Add on Visual Studio, a slew of Adobe apps, all my hardware drivers, my 6 GB of family photos, all the usual programs, and you run short way before you think you will.
-wreckedcarzz (September 06, 2008, 01:43 AM)
Sure, you can run out of space quickly. I only have 2x74gig in my workstation. The ~50megs the STEAM platform itself occupies is still pretty inconsequential, though, imho - especially if it means individual game executables will land at ~2meg instead of ~16meg. Try solving the equation "50 + 2n < 16n" :)

Also, how often do you use your family photos etc? Those should probably be moved to an external USB drive, and be backed up to DVD media or a raid-mirror file server (DVD media would be the cheapest, though :)).

I really don't see what STEAM has to do with free disk space, anyway.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: Deozaan on September 07, 2008, 02:00 AM: In the spirit of this thread i'll borrow it due to Steams reginal restrictions. Been wanting to get "Beyond Good and Evil" for a while now and as I really enjoy Steam and use it a lot I would love to get a hold of this game as well.
Can donate the money over PayPal or in the spirit of giving games gift back a game to the person who helps me (a slightly more expensive one that is so the person benefits from the trade).
-ThalSwe (September 04, 2008, 10:16 AM)

If Steam has Regional restrictions, how is it possible for someone to gift a game to you that is out of your region? I'm willing to help you if can explain a bit more what I'm supposed to do and how it works. :)
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: ThalSwe on September 08, 2008, 01:04 PM: You can only buy the games in Canada and USA and not in Europe where I live (or any of the many many other countries in our world). Its a choice from the publisher to simply not sell the games outside of North America. But its perfectly possible to buy the game as a gift if you live in any of those two countries and gift it to one of us...not so fortunate (gaming wise).

So if someone across the pond buys the game as a gift and sends it to my account I would be able to get and play it without a problem :)
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: f0dder on September 08, 2008, 01:09 PM: You can only buy the games in Canada and USA and not in Europe where I live (or any of the many many other countries in our world). Its a choice from the publisher to simply not sell the games outside of North America. But its perfectly possible to buy the game as a gift if you live in any of those two countries and gift it to one of us...not so fortunate (gaming wise).
-ThalSwe (September 08, 2008, 01:04 PM)
What, they permanently don't sell outside Canada/USA? Considering Beyond Good & Evil is oldish, it can't be just a release date issue :tellme:
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: Deozaan on September 08, 2008, 01:51 PM: ThalSwe: Check your Private Messages for info about gifting Beyond Good & Evil to you. :)
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: ThalSwe on September 08, 2008, 01:51 PM: Not sure if its permanently (as they might change their mind eventually) but currently UbiSoft and...think Atari dont sell any of their games on Steam outside Canada/USA. Might even be another one or two publishers doing the same but simply not to the same exstent.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: Lashiec on September 08, 2008, 05:16 PM: Weird, both are French publishers :huh:

Not to mention Beyond Good & Evil is practically being given away here.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: wreckedcarzz on September 08, 2008, 10:50 PM: Just the fact that it is something else to be installed, rather than the individual game. Personal opinion is what it comes down to, but I would much rather have the "full game" than rely on something else to hold it. What if Steam had some type of error, and I couldn't play anything? Madness ensues...

It's like lots of little boxes vs one big box. Big box falls over, everything breaks. Little box falls over, the rest are fine.

Just my opinion on how I do things. :two:
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: wraith808 on October 03, 2008, 08:44 PM: There's lots of games that are only available for download on the internet and aren't present in physical stores - how's this any different from STEAM? Remember, you can "go offline" in STEAM, and play the games without being connected to the internet.
-f0dder (September 06, 2008, 07:49 AM)

This isn't a dig on steam... I have it installed and love it. Especially better than D2D since you have one client to manage everything rather than having to download each game individually and not have anything to manage them. But I did want to chime in on this caveat- I *hate* that you have to go offline when you're online to be able to use offline mode.

So if I come home, and my internet connection is down, and I haven't "gone offline", I can't play any of my games that I purchased through steam. And that really sucks. Impulse (stardock's system) isn't like this... but then again, many impulse games don't have DRM anyway...
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: wreckedcarzz on October 07, 2008, 01:48 AM: I used D2D to purchase GTA: San Andreas (AO version, say what you want :P) and I loved how it was so simple to just run and enter the code. And I used a no-CD crack keep it from doing anything else unexpected afterwards (phoning home or something).

Cheap, fast, easy.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: ThalSwe on November 30, 2008, 07:39 AM: Decided to jump into this old thread again (instead of creating a new one) since I need some help with getting some "restricted" games from Steam due to Ubisoft and Atari having their odd ways of publishing. Was helped once before by our friendly member Deozaan to get Beyond: Good and Evil and that I am very VERY greatful for. This time around the games are a more expensive so guess its a smaller chance that someone will help me.

The first one of them is "The Witcher: Enhanced Edition" that I have been wanting to play for a longer time and hoped that Atari would eventually change their publishing policy as they company who made the game is European but they only changed it to be avalible for Eastern European countries.

The other game is the new "Prince of Persia" which I am really intersted in. As Ubisoft put it up on Steam they decided to have a complete pack of all the Prince of Persia games and since I am a bit of a game collector (110+ games on Steam) and since I never got a chance to play Warrior Within and Two Thrones I'd like to get my hands on the Prince of Persia Pack.

Details:
Prince of Persia Pack $64.99
The Witcher: Enhanced Edition $39.99

I'll gladly sent the money by Paypal to the person(s) that can help me get the games and if you are uncertain you can trust me I can send the money to you before you gift me the game. Also have extra gift copies of Half-Life 2 and GTA: Vice City that I can gift away to the person who helps me out :)

If nobody can help me out I guess I have to stick it out and wait for them to change. Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: y0himba on November 30, 2008, 08:03 AM: If you can place the money in Paypal before the transaction, I can help you out. I have done it before on this forum. I will take your gift copies, HL2 for my boys and GTA for me...

PM or Email me
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: p3lb0x on November 30, 2008, 08:07 AM: This thread is one of the great things about DC.
I probably wouldn't trust people on some of the other forums I frequent to do stuff like this for me :D
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: ThalSwe on November 30, 2008, 09:00 AM: Yeah, I feel the same way about this community. Really friendly and nice people here so can really say that I am proud to be a member here. y0himba got me the games and I couldnt be happier. Yay for DC.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: y0himba on November 30, 2008, 09:04 AM: Transaction completed, and we are happily downloading our games. Anyone else needs help, let me know, this is twice I have done this, and I am getting comfortable with it.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: f0dder on November 30, 2008, 09:51 AM: :-*
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: SvenP78 on August 18, 2009, 06:35 AM: Hello together,

I just found the thread via google, because I have exactly the same problem with buying "The Witcher" from Steam. So I looked around this forum and found out that the people here have a polite way to interact with each other. That's something, that makes this forum a place to come by more often.

Since I also don't like opening new threads for every little thing, I just append to this older thread. Could perhaps anyone from US or Russia gift me the game? I use paypal and could do instant payments.

And to the discussion about Steam. Well, at first (back when it was introduced) I was very angry that CS1.6 was released via Steam. I always loved to have a DVD/CD in my shelf. But now a few years later, I think a little bit different about it. Now my opinion is that it is just the way the internet and with it the distribution channels change. I is a convinient way to buy games without much copy-protection/drm stuff which hurts my system. So I see no problem in installing Steam. For me it is only a launcher. A positive side-effect is when I lose my harddrive or my install disc (happened to me when I moved and didn't find the game case in the boxes) because of a hardware failure it doesn't matter. I can redownload the games.
The only thing that sometimes drives me nuts is the way regional sales are being enforced by the IP and CreditCard/Paypal Account origin. Something which was really annoying for me when I first got the Valve Complete Pack as DE Version. (the games where cut, even the old Half-Life). It cost me a few letters to the support, and a way to buy the Valve Complete Pack again in UK until the support exchanged the game and refunded the original price.

So in the UK Store it is no problem, but the US or Russian Store have much stricter Checks for buying. :)

So, if anybody could help me with this I would be very thankful.

Bye,

Sven
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: Deozaan on August 18, 2009, 11:56 AM: Hi Sven,

I'd be glad to help you out.

Just send the money to:

Contact Info
paypal (@t) deozaan (dawt) com

And include a reminder to me for which game you want and what e-mail address to gift it to and I'll get it over to you.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: SvenP78 on August 22, 2009, 01:45 AM: Hi,

I just transferred the money. Should be there in 2-3 days. I had to open a new PP-Account, because PP "mistakenly" froze my main account. Very funny, just because I used it with a VPN and never before bought in UK. Thank god, I had no money on it and always paid via bank transfer.
Who the hell are they? They just think another person logged into my account, even though I used the pin type login with my mobile phone and reverified my Credit Card (which was deactivated by paypal also). I used paypal for many years now, without even having a problem. Till now.

Well, sorry but I was a bit angry. I wished I could have send the money earlier, but with this measures, PP "forced" me to open a new account.

Anyone else had problem with Paypal?

Bye,

Sven
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: scancode on August 22, 2009, 02:03 AM: Anyone else had problem with Paypal?
-SvenP78 (August 22, 2009, 01:45 AM)
This deserves a separate thread, but check out
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/paypal-fiasco-summary.php
http://knaddison.com/opinions/why-i-hate-paypal-why-paypal-sucks
http://www.paypalsucks.com/forums/showforum.php?fid=3
and the countless other sites :)
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: SvenP78 on August 22, 2009, 03:09 AM: Thanks. Nice reading. I know it was a bit off-topic, so sorry. I was just a bit angry at that moment, and didn't think of opening a new thread. Well... hope the money from the second account will be transferred and after that I will use PP only if there isn't any other way.
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: mouser on August 22, 2009, 10:36 AM: just for the record, i love paypal :up:
Title: Re: Steam, and the gift of game...
Post by: scancode on August 22, 2009, 11:32 AM: just for the record, i love paypal :up:
-mouser (August 22, 2009, 10:36 AM)

just for the record, who cares? paypal hates me and countless other people :P/me gives mouser a poke
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Post by: SvenP78 on August 25, 2009, 01:00 PM: Just to inform that Paypal "seems not to be always" bad. My limited Paypal account is unlocked again, after I wrote a diplomatic, but not very nice letter to the support. I've been letting them know that I won't send them X-pages of whatever, after I already made the steps to verify my CreditCard and with this my location.
Also I told them to shut down the account if they don't want to unlock it (didn't care anymore). Well, guess what. A friendly paypal employeer called me on my handy (I didn't have to call the hotline - which would have been costs again) and I told him that I am really me and that I made the transactions that perhaps fired the security system. A day later the account was unlocked again.

So at the end... Everything is working again (let's see how long).

So thanks all for the comments and especially Deozaan for helping me out with the gift. :)
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Post by: Schlangers on August 27, 2009, 02:31 PM: Hi is anybody willing to make gift me Mass Effect ? I would pay half upfront and half after or something like that :D

I will use paypal of course, why don't EA allow its games to sold via Steam UK?
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Post by: mkay87 on June 26, 2010, 04:32 PM: Hi guys :)
Can anyone gift me Jericho on Steam? I'm from germany and the game is not listed in our store -.-
Because i cannot send the money via paypal i would buy an other game as a gift on steam for you (price equal or a bit higher).

If you want a positive feedback about me ask deozaan he knows me. He gifted me games before.

So please help me :)
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Post by: Deozaan on June 26, 2010, 04:35 PM: Check your PM. I'll be writing.
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Post by: y0himba on June 26, 2010, 06:29 PM: If no one else has already, I will gift it to you. It is $1.69(US) right now. http://store.steampowered.com/app/11420/
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Post by: Deozaan on June 26, 2010, 06:55 PM: I took care of it. Thanks y0himba. :Thmbsup:
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Post by: y0himba on June 26, 2010, 07:09 PM: I bought 3 copies, one for me, two for friends. Looks fun! :Thmbsup:
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Post by: mkay87 on June 27, 2010, 01:55 PM: @deozaan: I wrote you another Mail. Please just look at the last one (with Max Payne bundle and Gothic bundle)

Thank you :)
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Post by: Deozaan on June 27, 2010, 02:00 PM: Done. :)
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Post by: Tezel on June 28, 2010, 05:04 AM: @deozann

I wrote you a mail. Please help me :)
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Post by: Deozaan on June 28, 2010, 01:28 PM: I've responded. I await your reply. :)
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Post by: Tezel on June 28, 2010, 05:23 PM: I've responded. I await your reply. :)
-Deozaan (June 28, 2010, 01:28 PM)
Thanks! I will respond, if there are any games I wanna buy :)
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Post by: Deozaan on June 30, 2010, 09:27 PM: I have an extra copy of Grand Theft Auto 4 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/12210/) that I don't want, but would appreciate reimbursement/trade for.

Normally it's $20, but is on sale now for $15. But I'm willing to trade on Steam for anything on my wishlist (http://steamcommunity.com/id/Deozaan/wishlist) that is $5 ($4.99) or more. Especially if it's one of the daily specials for something that is greatly discounted. (Such as Red Faction: Guerrilla (http://store.steampowered.com/app/20500/) for $5 today)

It's been claimed.
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Post by: lanux128 on June 30, 2010, 10:52 PM: ^^

thanks Deozaan. :D
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Post by: talrasha on July 04, 2010, 05:17 PM: Hi Guys,
Greetings from Germany.

I need the Left 4 Dead 2 Pack (4 Games) Can someone gift it to me? I will pay with paypal. You can keep one Game for your self.

Thanks.
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Post by: Deozaan on July 04, 2010, 05:20 PM: I'd be glad to help but since I already own the game I can't even gift the 4-pack. It's strange that in order to buy the 4-pack you must buy it for yourself.
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Post by: wreckedcarzz on July 04, 2010, 05:47 PM: talrasha, check your PM inbox (top of the forum) :Thmbsup:
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Post by: wraith808 on December 23, 2012, 10:13 PM: considering that markjacn has spam links in his sig, I'd be careful about trusting him...