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Title: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: 40hz on January 11, 2015, 07:59 AM
Saw this in an article by Alan Buckingham on BetaNews. Apparently Anonymous is expanding it's range of target baddies to include non-government and non-corporate SOBs. Most interesting if so. Especially since it drastically ups the stakes (and physical risks) for Anonymous if it becomes their new charter. More here (http://betanews.com/2015/01/10/anonymous-breaks-hacker-stereotype-stands-up-for-what-is-right/).

From BetaNews:

...Things began just over a week ago when the group [Anonymous] declared war on Lizard Squad, a rival gang, if you will. That loosely run outfit had claimed responsibility for the takedown of Christmas for many people. In other words, it attacked the networks of both Sony Playstation and Microsoft Xbox on the day everyone was getting a new console. A cowardly act that they claimed was done just for fun.

The fun is over, as the group did a poor job of disguising members' identities and several are now in the hands of authorities. Worse for them, Anonymous declared war, which is the last thing anyone wishes to have happen to them.

Now Anonymous is setting its eyes, and considerable technological firepower, on Jihadist groups, looking to retaliate for the recent tragedy that took place in Paris, France...

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Yeah. This could get interesting. Real interesting... 8)

Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: wraith808 on January 11, 2015, 10:29 AM
Sounds more like the Guns from Black Summer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Summer) by Ellis.  Which is a little more frightening.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Blacksummer.jpg)

Very good comic, BTW...
Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: 40hz on January 11, 2015, 12:52 PM
Very good comic, BTW...

Never heard of it. Have now. Will have to check it out. Thx! :) :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: superboyac on January 11, 2015, 03:49 PM
Sounds more like the Guns from Black Summer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Summer) by Ellis.  Which is a little more frightening.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Blacksummer.jpg)

Very good comic, BTW...
Thanks!  Will be added to my list.
Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on January 11, 2015, 04:01 PM
Saw this in an article by Alan Buckingham on BetaNews. Apparently Anonymous is expanding it's range of target baddies to include non-government and non-corporate SOBs. Most interesting if so. Especially since it drastically ups the stakes (and physical risks) for Anonymous if it becomes their new charter. More here (http://betanews.com/2015/01/10/anonymous-breaks-hacker-stereotype-stands-up-for-what-is-right/).

From BetaNews:

...Things began just over a week ago when the group [Anonymous] declared war on Lizard Squad, a rival gang, if you will. That loosely run outfit had claimed responsibility for the takedown of Christmas for many people. In other words, it attacked the networks of both Sony Playstation and Microsoft Xbox on the day everyone was getting a new console. A cowardly act that they claimed was done just for fun.

The fun is over, as the group did a poor job of disguising members' identities and several are now in the hands of authorities. Worse for them, Anonymous declared war, which is the last thing anyone wishes to have happen to them.

Now Anonymous is setting its eyes, and considerable technological firepower, on Jihadist groups, looking to retaliate for the recent tragedy that took place in Paris, France...
(see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=39993.msg373164#msg373164))
Yeah. This could get interesting. Real interesting... 8)

If I didn't know better, I'd say this is a guerrilla TV show like a next generation Truman Show, with a little Flannery O'Connor sprinkled on top. "Everything that rises must converge".

So the Agencies (from X countries!) are not going to let "them" just randomly decide to do whatever they want. "We as cowed citizens" have to assume a "basic innocence" for Anonymous, that it isn't itself all a fake front to keep stirring up the martial state culture.

It's just tension building like a 24 episode TV show with 8 scripts written and the writers discovered they backed themselves into a continuity disaster and don't know how to get the season successfully over without a "cheapo" near the end. (Super rough timeline - about two months realtime "per episode"?)

(That's what I'm learning about tv writing as I've watched a lot this year, they carefully drip little "reveals" and can't just dump the whole thing, which has to wait for a season/series finale.)

 So we have Anonymous "just doing things", but it's like a Filler episode setting out a new story arc. I just don't know (and I'm a bit nervous of!) the leadup to the season finale!

:o
Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: Renegade on January 11, 2015, 05:47 PM
Got my popcorn. :)
Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on January 11, 2015, 05:51 PM
Got my popcorn. :)

You know that popcorn is GMO, and contains secret messages! You're a courier for anonymous!
:D   ;D

Damn. Conspiracy parody humor is even more fun than the things themselves! It's like Nathan Poe made his law while time traveling to talk to Edgar Allen Poe!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Allan_Poe

Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: Renegade on January 11, 2015, 06:29 PM
Got my popcorn. :)

You know that popcorn is GMO, and contains secret messages! You're a courier for anonymous!
:D   ;D

Damn. Conspiracy parody humor is even more fun than the things themselves! It's like Nathan Poe made his law while time traveling to talk to Edgar Allen Poe!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Allan_Poe

Heh! Absolutely!

Sometimes it's hard to really go over the top so as not to trigger Poe's law. There are a truckload of people that really are serious about some really wonky things. Hollow Earth? It makes for good fun. There are a lot of very real things in history that are wonky beyond belief though, and trying to drag up some simple facts on some topics will freak people out -- invariably they think you're just a nutcase because they're unfamiliar with much history. e.g. USS Maine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(ACR-1)#False_flag_conspiracy_theories) (and here (http://history.navy.mil/photos/events/spanam/events/maineskg.htm)), Tuskegee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment), Operation Northwoods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods), Gladio B (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds#Gladio_B), Gary Webb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb), etc. Just a few years ago if you said that governments were spying on people, you'd be called a nutcase.

Just wait until people find out about GMO Epicyte corn (http://www.theguardian.com/science/2001/sep/09/gm.food). ;)
Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: Deozaan on January 11, 2015, 08:37 PM
But who watches the watchmen? :o
Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: Vurbal on January 11, 2015, 09:31 PM
But who watches the watchmen? :o

I've watched it several times. The director's cut, in particular, is quite good. Not on the same level as the comics, but good nonetheless.  :P
Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: 40hz on January 12, 2015, 07:20 AM
But who watches the watchmen? :o

I've watched it several times. The director's cut, in particular, is quite good. Not on the same level as the comics, but good nonetheless.  :P

Agree! Especially about the director's cut. :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Expanded role for Anonymous - Now more like The Watchman than V?
Post by: wraith808 on January 12, 2015, 08:46 AM
And for those that might be on the fence about Black Summer- a (minor) spoiler.

Spoiler
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And that's how it starts.