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Title: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on February 20, 2008, 07:11 PM
I just had this idea for this thread so let's see where it goes. Basically, just post what annoys you more than anything in the world.

For me, since I was just organizing my movie collection (http://s231842918.onlinehome.us/movies/), and I realized how annoying DVD cases and media cases in general have become when you purchase them from a retail outlet of any kind. You have to go through 4 different protection mechanisms before you can access the dvd itself. You first have to peel off the plastic wrap. Then you have to peel off the sticker(s) on the outside of the case. This can be on up to 3 edges of the case. Then you have to go through the latches which are designed to make it harder to steal a disc from the case (the companies claim they are to prevent the case from being opened by kids, although my kid figured it out in 20 seconds. THEN, you can finally enjoy your movie. This is a travesty and one which has annoyed me greatly for years now.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on February 20, 2008, 08:04 PM
The expression "for free" when used instead of "free."
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cmpm on February 20, 2008, 08:21 PM
coffee brewers-

that shut off in 2 hours
and yes I know it's best within the first 15 min.
but I can't drink a whole pot in 15 min.

the ones that keep the coffee too hot or too cold
adjustable temp settings that don't work

so far -kitchen aid- has worked best
but the pause and serve screwed up-ha
I took the pause and serve off.
So I pause it if I need to by turning it off, then turning it back on.
I need my coffee asap sometimes.....
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wreckedcarzz on February 20, 2008, 08:53 PM
Cabling. Power cords, eithernet cords, monitor cords, TV cables, phone lines, USB cords...anything cord-based that can be tripped over, made into a knot, cut (or otherwise destroyed), or just get in the way. That "world without wires" has yet to come.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Renegade on February 20, 2008, 09:41 PM
"There is five posts in this thread."

AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!

Learn how to count! It's, "There ARE five posts in this thread."

Now, someone follow up and make it six! :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on February 20, 2008, 09:45 PM
This kind of thing are making me six.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nite_monkey on February 20, 2008, 11:33 PM
My ISP! SuddenLink... no, it should be SuddenSLOWink Most of the time, I don't get cable internet speed, but I get a speed similar to my old dial up connection
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nosh on February 21, 2008, 01:03 AM
Clutter & a lack of organization - on and off the PC.

The "on PC" stuff has mostly been taken care of but there are some cupboards/shelves that really need to be taken care of and I've been in some serious denial and have chosen to look the other way for well... years! I know I'd be better off if I just put my mind to it one weekend and got it sorted out but that hasn't happened yet.  :(

Also, I've got into this horrible habit of holding onto my old PC hardware, just can't digest the fact that I'll be getting like .05% of the value back if I sell it and don't have a completely functional PC that I can donate.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: jgpaiva on February 21, 2008, 04:15 AM
LINKSYS!!!

I've already bought 3 of their routers, and all of them gave me problems!
The less expensive one (40€), i had to return it because my laptop would get "weak" signal when it was 2 feet away from the router.
The intermidiate one (100€), can't keep configured for more than one week, which means i have to reset it and reconfigure it every week.
The more expensive one (140€), which was supposed to be a perfect router, really is very good, gets me great speed WHEN it works, because a few times a day, it starts going nuts and gives me internet on and off (one minute i have wireless, the next there's no wireless, then there's wireless for one minute again, etc etc).Oh, and the best part is that there's a 6 page forum thread about this on the linksys forum without ANY response from linksys.

Unfortunatelly, i'm the one who'd stupid, after the previous experience, i should never have bought that last router. :(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: TucknDar on February 21, 2008, 04:16 AM
People who start getting onto the tube, bus, train, whatever public transportation BEFORE I or anyone else can get off it! What's so difficult to understand? You let us get out, and THEN you can get in. It's a very easy concept. Container is full, to add something to the container, something must necessarily be removed first. :wallbash:

I usually just elbow my way through the morons

Oh, and thread can be closed now, there is nothing more annoying than what I just described ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: housetier on February 21, 2008, 04:41 AM
People who willingly and knowingly break rules and then excuse themselfes saying "but so-and-so is doing it also!". They ought to obey or change the rules, not break them!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Renegade on February 21, 2008, 05:06 AM
People who start getting onto the tube, bus, train, whatever public transportation BEFORE I or anyone else can get off it! What's so difficult to understand? You let us get out, and THEN you can get in. It's a very easy concept. Container is full, to add something to the container, something must necessarily be removed first. :wallbash:

AMEN!

Solids are NOT compressible!

Those people shouldn't have children...

And it's one of the reasons that I really enjoy driving to work now. I really don't need to as it's cheap and easy to use public transportation in Seoul, but geez... You NAILED that one!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: app103 on February 21, 2008, 05:58 AM
Telephones...and almost everything about them.

Especially getting up to answer it and finding out that some automated system called me and put me on hold and they want me to wait till a human is available to find out what they want.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: allen on February 21, 2008, 07:50 AM
The anti-theft precautions in children's toys piss me off like nothing else.  I buy my son something small -- a little 4 dollar toy -- and I'm doomed to spend five to ten minutes trying to untangle and remove all the wires holding the thing in place.  Or, worse yet, the toys that have *screws* anchoring them into the package, in addition to the wires.  Or my favorite -- screws, wire's AND plastic casing that requires a sharp knife to penetrate. Of course, in the car, my son wants it open . . . but, of course, you need a damned toolbox just to get the toy out.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Beth UK on February 21, 2008, 07:58 AM
The anti-theft precautions in children's toys piss me off like nothing else.  I buy my son something small -- a little 4 dollar toy -- and I'm doomed to spend five to ten minutes trying to untangle and remove all the wires holding the thing in place.  Or, worse yet, the toys that have *screws* anchoring them into the package, in addition to the wires.  Or my favorite -- screws, wire's AND plastic casing that requires a sharp knife to penetrate. Of course, in the car, my son wants it open . . . but, of course, you need a damned toolbox just to get the toy out.

Totally agree - but it isn't just children's toys; it's just about anything these days. The level of ingenuity  required to open some packaging makes me wonder whether manufacturers are in league with the goverment to design devious 'in-the-home' intelligence testing - we are then all secretly rated on how long it takes us to open the refill for the air freshener!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on February 21, 2008, 08:11 AM
+1 (or should that be -1  >:() on the toy packaging in particular and product packaging in general  :down:

The impact on the environment of all this must be profound and it seems to me that it is completely unnecessary and almost universally unwanted!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: allen on February 21, 2008, 08:24 AM
And I can assure you the product manufacturers aren't the ones eating the costs involved in this asinine packaging.  I'd be curious (or perhaps loathe...) to see, statistically, how much an individual pays in their life time for all this.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on February 21, 2008, 09:32 AM
People, copy protection, DRM.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on February 21, 2008, 10:24 AM
I can't say DRM because it has never caused me any headaches.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CWuestefeld on February 21, 2008, 12:33 PM
I'm annoyed by

Boy, I'm really becoming a curmudgeon.

(sheepishly edited to fix a punctuation error  :-[)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: allen on February 21, 2008, 12:47 PM
im bugged by peeps who wast my bandwidth with unecessary punctuationmarks an whitespace  :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Cpilot on February 21, 2008, 12:54 PM
Anyone who says, "this is the way it's always been done".
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: TucknDar on February 21, 2008, 01:16 PM
People who seem unaware of those around them. The subway example is a good one; also people who block the aisle in the supermarket, and "left lane dicks" on the highway.
Oh, and add the people (often couples) blocking the escalators. "I know the stairs move, but I'd like to walk too. It's possible, you see. Well, it would be possible if you two weren't blocking the escalator! You stand on ONE side of the escalator. The other side is for walking." Again: Pretty easy concept.

Not as annoying as the tube-people, though :-\

So in short, I guess people annoy me quite a bit :-[
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on February 21, 2008, 01:39 PM
I've got this circular problem sometimes

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Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Target on February 21, 2008, 06:22 PM
you might be sorry you got me started...

rudeness, and/or a total lack of consideration of others

people who insist on carrying on very loud <i>speaker phone</i> conversations in public places...

people who can't match the posted speed limit, until you get to a passing zone...

posters who drag a thread off topic (and those who go with them, and with them, and with them...)

flamewars, and/or name calling in a forum (what are you, 5?)

reality TV (seems like this has to be an oxymoron...)

and and and and...

Target (who is turning into his father, apparently...)

EDIT: the fact that I couldn't bite my lip and not post my list of pet hates...

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on February 21, 2008, 06:28 PM
posters who drag a thread off topic (and those who go with them, and with them, and with them...)

OK - guilty on both counts (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/WHISTLE.GIF)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nite_monkey on February 21, 2008, 10:02 PM
posters who drag a thread off topic (and those who go with them, and with them, and with them...)

OK - guilty on both counts (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/WHISTLE.GIF)
guilty also...kind of like what I am doing now...sorry
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: AndyM on February 21, 2008, 11:37 PM
People who seem unaware of those around them.
rudeness, and/or a total lack of consideration of others

A particular case of the above:  People who don't clean the snow off their cars and then drive while peering through a tiny cleared area on their windshield, trailing clouds of snow and dangerous flying chunks behind them. >:(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: ljbirns on February 22, 2008, 07:56 AM
Incompetence.

Lew
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on February 22, 2008, 08:06 AM
I've remembered a few others (this list relates to driving):


The new (in the last 30 years) packaging on boxes of Smarties. They're impossible to open without ripping the box and no longer provide hours of fun from blowing into the open end to make a wonderful kazoo noise from the other  :down:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: justice on February 22, 2008, 08:34 AM
ICT / computing in general:

* printers that cant clean themselves smudging your printouts
* BBcode cubersome list implementation
* the maze that is windows permission / security system
* second life unreliability
* people that use nice peopl to get things done.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: housetier on February 22, 2008, 09:18 AM
Drivers that think they are the best in the world, and everyone should just drive like themselves.
Drivers who are inconvenienced by other drivers abiding to actual traffic laws.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on February 22, 2008, 09:25 AM
Drivers that think they are the best in the world, and everyone should just drive like themselves.
Drivers who are inconvenienced by other drivers abiding to actual traffic laws.

Yes (I think) - second line much more succinctly stated than my rant above - but that is what I was trying to say... Is the first line directed at me?

EDIT: re-written.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: app103 on February 22, 2008, 09:28 AM
I once had a young woman pass me on the right (on the soft shoulder) in a park zone while flipping me the bird. I was actually going faster than the posted 30 km/h and there were people using the park! I still get riled over that one and it happened at least 10 months ago... OK rant over  :-[

Sounds like you were visiting New Jersey.  :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: brotherS on February 22, 2008, 10:00 AM
Basically, just post what annoys you more than anything in the world.
Nothing anymore. Yes, life IS good.  :)

PS: I had a car crash, my PC died and I lost a substancial amount of money in 2008 so far.

PPS: US private banks surveyed clients with a net worth of $38,000,000 and more - and 65% said they felt "financially insecure"... so to me, working on enjoying life more is the key, learning how not to be annoyed by 'stuff' around you. To not annoy others 8) let's keep the discussion on topic, but feel free to PM me if you like.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Jammo the OrganizedFellow on February 22, 2008, 10:54 AM
This annoys me to no end:

1. going shopping and witnessing lazy-shoppers leaving their shopping cart by their car, instead of taking them to the designated cart-corral in the parking lot.
2. software sites that dont offer screenshots of their products.
3. aggressive product fan-boiz (Apple, Ford, etc.)
4. messy people.
5. people who treat ADHD as an excuse for their/someones behavior, and state they/someone has the condition based on their ill-educated perspective.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mouser on February 22, 2008, 10:59 AM
losing things that i know i just put down somewhere.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Tony Dodd on February 22, 2008, 11:13 AM
Cords that tangle up and knot. Idiot ISP's that cannot get anything right....(Telus wants me to "rejoin them for Internet and phone...I just signed on to a 3 year deal you idiots!!!!) Call center people who cannot speak English and argue with you. Messy people. My noisy neighbors.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on February 22, 2008, 02:07 PM
5. people who treat ADHD as an excuse for their/someones behavior, and state they/someone has the condition based on their ill-educated perspective.

Please tell me you are not one of those people who thinks this is not a real disorder?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on February 22, 2008, 05:13 PM
Customers who want to stand next to you and watch what you're doing
(if you stand closer, does the job get done faster? NO!!)

Being forced to use NT4.0 at work

Dial-up internet
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on February 22, 2008, 11:29 PM
What annoys me is people like that stupid woman driver who almost caused an accident this morning due to her blatant disregard for others - because she was trying to apply her eye make-up while driving down the highway.

She drifted way too close to my lane.  That caused me to have to swerve a bit and I squeezed my jelly donut too hard, causing the insides to squirt out onto my pants!!  And when I looked down to see how much of a mess the jelly caused my cell phone slipped out of its comfortable position - nestled between my shoulder and ear - and fall....right into my coffee mug FULL of coffee, which was sitting on the driver's seat between my legs.  And the coffee just erupted and went all over the keyboard of my notebook PC, which was balanced sooo nicely on my knee, kind of.  Then because the hot coffee was really HOT, I wriggled around a lot and that caused the notebook, already smoking from the coffee that spilled on the keyboard, to fall completely off my knee!!  As I leaned over to try and pick up the notebook my cigarette slipped right out of my lips and down the front of my shirt, making these weird looking burn marks all over my chest!

I mean, this woman could have killed me!!  The FOOL!!

Worst part was -- I really wanted that darned jelly donut!!  That was really annoying.

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: app103 on February 23, 2008, 12:52 AM
losing things that i know i just put down somewhere.

<mouser> you know.. something is just plain wrong about spending 30 minutes searching for my book on how to get organized
-Mouser in IRC channel
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: brotherS on February 23, 2008, 03:57 AM
She drifted way too close to my lane.  That caused me to have to swerve a bit and I squeezed my jelly donut too hard, causing the insides to squirt out onto my pants!!  And when I looked down to see how much of a mess the jelly caused my cell phone slipped out of its comfortable position [...]
;D ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on February 23, 2008, 12:31 PM
5. people who treat ADHD as an excuse for their/someones behavior, and state they/someone has the condition based on their ill-educated perspective.

Please tell me you are not one of those people who thinks this is not a real disorder?
There's a difference between suffering from a disorder, and hiding behind a disorder and excusing everything and yourself because of it.. and behaving like a total jerk. Using an illness/disorder as a bad excuse for being ill-mannered is pretty unfair to the people that really suffer and try to cope with it.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: AndyM on February 23, 2008, 02:39 PM
She drifted way too close to my lane.  That caused me to have to swerve a bit and I squeezed my jelly donut too hard, causing the insides to squirt out onto my pants!!  And when I looked down to see how much of a mess the jelly caused my cell phone slipped out of its comfortable position - nestled between my shoulder and ear - and fall....right into my coffee mug FULL of coffee, which was sitting on the driver's seat between my legs.  And the coffee just erupted and went all over the keyboard of my notebook PC, which was balanced sooo nicely on my knee, kind of.  Then because the hot coffee was really HOT, I wriggled around a lot and that caused the notebook, already smoking from the coffee that spilled on the keyboard, to fall completely off my knee!!  As I leaned over to try and pick up the notebook my cigarette slipped right out of my lips and down the front of my shirt, making these weird looking burn marks all over my chest!

I mean, this woman could have killed me!!  The FOOL!!
People who make me spit coffee all over my screen cause I'm laughing too hard to swallow right  :D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on February 23, 2008, 05:06 PM
This really annoys me. Its people who force themselves into your lane by riding up as far as they can in the ending lane. You know, the lane that had a sign 2 miles ago stating that it was ending in 2 miles. These people choose to push as far as they can past the end of the lane only to cut in front of everyone else. You mainly see this when there is a lot of traffic and people just have to get that extra 10 seconds saved by not merging where they should have.

#@$(*&#(%*&@#(*%&@#%(*&@#(%*&@#%(*&@#%(*!!!!!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on February 23, 2008, 06:12 PM
This IS annoying Josh. What annoys me is the presumption of it... and the futility. Really, all that is accomplished is a lot of seething resentment on the part of the people who were forced to let the jerk in...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on February 23, 2008, 09:15 PM
This IS annoying Josh. What annoys me is the presumption of it... and the futility. Really, all that is accomplished is a lot of seething resentment on the part of the people who were forced to let the jerk in...

I don't see why you're being so crabby... I had my turn signal on!

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tinjaw on February 23, 2008, 10:18 PM
Not winning $115 Million in the Kansas PowerBall.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on February 23, 2008, 11:47 PM
When you Google for FREE software and get everything but free... :mad:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: zridling on February 24, 2008, 10:46 AM
Slow people, and jackasses who walk through stores talking to themselves on phones. I start cursing, hoping we'll both be offended. Or how about the guy who talks on the phone in the public restroom?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on February 24, 2008, 02:54 PM
Slow people, and jackasses who walk through stores talking to themselves on phones. I start cursing, hoping we'll both be offended. Or how about the guy who talks on the phone in the public restroom?

Or coworkers who come into the restroom and start asking you questions while you are in a stall?   >:( >:(

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: a_lunatic on February 24, 2008, 07:25 PM
Program that manages to remove a heap of startup items once installed & doesn't work at all & takes like half an hour to fix.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on February 24, 2008, 07:53 PM
a_lunatic,

Sounds a lot like PC Mag's Startup Cop 3!

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Renegade on February 24, 2008, 09:37 PM
This really annoys me. Its people who force themselves into your lane by riding up as far as they can in the ending lane. You know, the lane that had a sign 2 miles ago stating that it was ending in 2 miles. These people choose to push as far as they can past the end of the lane only to cut in front of everyone else. You mainly see this when there is a lot of traffic and people just have to get that extra 10 seconds saved by not merging where they should have.

#@$(*&#(%*&@#(*%&@#%(*&@#(%*&@#%(*&@#%(*!!!!!

Hehehe! NEVER come to Asia... Just trust me on this! (It's not just cars...) ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Dell[a] on February 27, 2008, 06:10 PM
I agree with all of the rants about drivers. I am on the road a lot due to my work, and I can tell you so many horror stories.... those of which probably could have been preventable if people were patient and obeyed traffic laws.

Other things that annoy me is when someone puts an empty container back into the fridge. Or when my pager/cell phone goes off at a time when it is really most inappropriate.  :mad:
and who is it that  takes a shower and puts  the wet towel on the bed???? Grrrrrrrrrr

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on February 27, 2008, 08:02 PM
and who is it that takes a shower and puts the wet towel on the bed???? Grrrrrrrrrr

Ha ha! I'm guessing it's either you or Gothi[c]. It's funny because my wife did the same thing until I suggested that it isn't really a good idea. Maybe it's a European thing?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on February 27, 2008, 08:14 PM
Okay I've got one. It's not the most annoying thing in the world to me. In fact, I have no idea why this annoys me so much.

Someone living in my apartment complex owns a Dodge Dakota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Dakota). That's not what annoys me. What annoys me is that he has some text on his front windshield, at the top that says "MY Dakota" in big bold letters across nearly the entire width of the windshield.

Anytime I see that it just starts a chain of thoughts much like: "Well DUH! Of course it's your Dakota! Why on earth do you feel the need to point out to everyone that this Dakota belongs to you? You could at least write your name on it so people know who YOU are. I mean, if I stole it and was driving it around, everyone would think it was MY Dakota and not yours! What kind of idiot puts 'MY Dakota' on their windshield?" And the thoughts continue with many more negative assumptions about the intelligence and inferiority of the owner.

What's really sad, though, is that I don't even know the owner. He could be the greatest person on the planet, but that stupid text on his truck leads me to think all sorts of bad things about him.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Dell[a] on February 27, 2008, 08:39 PM
or when the cat pukes on your important papers :sick:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on February 27, 2008, 09:24 PM
or when the cat pukes on your important papers :sick:

Or when the dog pukes. On/in your shoes. While you're wearing them. In the car. On the way to go hiking in the mountains. A good hour away from any place or any thing to clean them up with.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on February 27, 2008, 09:27 PM
Or Bad Customer Service! (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=12503.msg104051#msg104051)  :wallbash:(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/shootmyself.gif)(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/BASH.GIF)  (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/doh.gif)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on February 28, 2008, 10:50 AM
OK - here's another (Deozaan's post reminded me of it): big trucks with confederate flags (http://www.infoplease.com/spot/confederate1.html) plastered all over them. Actually, scratch that - the confederate flag being displayed at all... Why? Well, for a start, there's what it stands for (or perhaps that should read what it's come to stand for) and then there's the fact that I live in a small town in Canada. CANADA. I wonder how many people in Georgia drive around with the Red Ensign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Red_Ensign) displayed on their car or truck or have it hanging in their bedroom window? Actually, in four trips to Georgia (Atlanta and Savannah) I don't remember every seeing a Canadan flag, Red Ensign or a confederate flag. Yet there are a lot of confederate flags here...

DISCLAIMER: I'm not picking on Georgia. I have family there. Blame the Dukes of Hazzard and the General Lee. Actually, that's probably why people here display the Confederate flag - they have no idea of what it stands for...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: jgpaiva on February 28, 2008, 12:17 PM
Forums whose search has the default operator OR instead of AND and that always get me 1million results and the result i'm looking for ISN'T one of those!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on February 28, 2008, 12:55 PM
Okay something that really annoys me that may get me in trouble because it involves some controversial topics.

When I disagree with what may be widely accepted as fact and instead of people trying logic and reason to convert me over, they just revert to name calling and totally shut me out or try to defame me simply because I have a different opinion. They make no attempt to hear my side.

I have to admit it hasn't happened to me personally, but it happens all the time to people who share my beliefs on topics such as:

Global Warming: I don't believe man has caused it and I don't believe it's really such a catastrophe that everyone is worried about. Yet people who share these beliefs are often ridiculed as hating the planet, being wasteful, harming the environment, and some Kennedy dude recently even said to someone with these beliefs that they should be tried for treason.

Gay marriage: People like me who don't believe gay marriage should be legally allowed are often called homophobic, and hateful. I have my reasons for thinking this is a bad idea, but these sorts of topics are kind of off limits to the forum. I just want to say that I'm not homophobic or hateful toward homosexuals. I have friends who are gay, have met gay people in the workplace and school, and I enjoy their friendship.

Illegal Immigration: People like me who want to stop (or at least minimize) illegal immigration are often called racist and hateful. I don't hate immigrants. I welcome them to come through the proper methods and channels. But I've had a Mexican room mate who was here illegally, who had about 5 fake ideas showing him at the ages of 19-30 years old. He was getting assistance to pay for school and living, and everything was taken care of for him. Meanwhile I married a Romanian who came to this country legally as a student and has struggled just to survive because she couldn't work except for a few hours a week for the school, which certainly wouldn't pay tuition and rent. She was fortunate enough to have a sponsor family here in the US who paid for her first year of school and then she established a 4.0 GPA and got scholarships to pay for the rest of her schooling. But anyway, my point is that it's terribly wrong to penalize the people who come here legally while completely ignoring and even helping the people who don't have respect for the laws.

So to summarize: I'm really annoyed when people can't seem to argue their point and instead just aim to discredit or defame those with opposing beliefs.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Renegade on February 28, 2008, 05:07 PM
Forums whose search has the default operator OR instead of AND and that always get me 1million results and the result i'm looking for ISN'T one of those!

+1 for that!

I can't imagine who thought OR would be a good idea...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on February 28, 2008, 06:39 PM
Deozaan: I'm not going to claim I know a truckload about global warming, but fact is that it's happening and very noticable - the winters in Denmark are very different now than 5 years ago. School vacations have been moved because of climate changes. Ice is melting at greenland, and at a faster/accelerating rate that's pretty unnerving. Whether you believe it's caused by man or not (I personally believe we've at least influenced the trend negatively), we definitely should try to do something about it, because things aren't going to be nice when the water levels rise and the deserts spread.

Gay marriage is probably not something that should be discussed here at DC :) - I can't see a problem with gay people getting most of the civil rights as "normal" people, but since the religious nutjobs don't tend to approve, gay marriages could be moved to the city hall...

Illegal immigration is a problem, but I wonder what would happen to the US economy if all the slave underpaid workers were thrown out of the country; face it, how many jobs are filled that no sane person would take? Construction business, repetitive packing jobs, dish cleaning, ...

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on February 28, 2008, 07:44 PM
Deozaan: I'm not going to claim I know a truckload about global warming, but fact is that it's happening and very noticable - the winters in Denmark are very different now than 5 years ago. School vacations have been moved because of climate changes. Ice is melting at greenland, and at a faster/accelerating rate that's pretty unnerving. Whether you believe it's caused by man or not (I personally believe we've at least influenced the trend negatively), we definitely should try to do something about it, because things aren't going to be nice when the water levels rise and the deserts spread.

Sure, the temperature may have risen on average over the last however many years, but I'm under the impression that that's just natural, periodic heating and cooling of the earth. Just 30 years ago scientists were saying that the earth was entering another ice age, and panicking about how to heat the earth up. Some groups even suggested dumping something like ash or sulfur on the ice caps to get them to melt. The idea of doing that now, with Global Warming on the brain, seems so ludicrous. Yet science and celebrities were so sure that the world was freezing. Personally I think scientists and people are overreacting in the same way, but focusing on the opposite extreme of temperature. I'd like people to just take a step back, relax, and really research and study and find out if it's really happening.

The document everybody refers to as proof of global warming happening was not a consensus among all the scientists who contributed to the document. Each scientist contributed a little part that may or may not have been meant to support the idea of Global Warming. Those who asked to have their names removed from the document when they found out what the agenda was for it have since been defamed. And anybody in a prominent position who disagrees about the validity of Global Warming is ostracized, criticized, and defamed.

Personally, I have questions, and they're not being answered because everyone is too busy telling me that to question is scientific heresy and I ought to be strangled for even doubting. It's so strange to me because the people who tell me that religion was invented to control people and looks down upon those who ask questions and don't blindly believe are the same people who tell me I should blindly believe in global warming and that asking questions about it's truth is wrong. And they also try to control me by telling me stay away from airplanes, automobiles, and technology in general and go green, all the while riding private jets across the world to preach global warming, owning 3 mansions, several SUVs and recreational vehicles, etc. In my opinion, the hypocrisy isn't helping their credibility. If they really believed what they were spouting off, they would be living differently.

I liked it better when science was a search for truth. Not when it was a method of twisting facts to "prove" our own opinions.

Gay marriage is probably not something that should be discussed here at DC :)

Exactly. That's why I didn't go into any reasons.

Illegal immigration is a problem, but I wonder what would happen to the US economy if all the slave underpaid workers were thrown out of the country; face it, how many jobs are filled that no sane person would take?

That's one of the reasons I'm all for cracking down on illegal immigration. The only reason a "sane" person would not take these jobs is because they really are modern day slavery/sweatshops right here in the USA. The people who employ illegal immigrants in these situations are also breaking the law by not paying minimum wage, having unsafe work conditions, and depriving illegal immigrants of other benefits that all people are entitled to according to US law. The problem is that they can't complain about it to the government because their employers threaten to fire them or get them deported. If we take away the incentive to hire what is essentially slave labor by severely penalizing companies that knowingly employ illegal immigrants, those jobs which people argue are "undesirable" will become desirable because they will be meeting governmental regulations when it comes to pay and work conditions. Not only that, since no one would want to hire illegal immigrants for fear of the penalties closing them down, the illegal immigrants will have very little incentive to come here illegally because they would not be able to find work.

Personally I think the economy might stutter a little in the transition period, but it would quickly boom back and perhaps be better than ever.

But, see, the point of this thread was to talk about what annoyed me, which was people who immediately call me names or defame me instead of speaking logically and civilly like you and I have here. It wasn't my intent to explain my position. My intent was just to say that it really annoys me that I'm labeled as a hate-monger because I have questions about the validity of the concept of man-caused global warming and how bad it really is; I have problems with illegal immigration; and I have other opinions on other controversial subjects that people won't take the time to hear the reasons behind my opinions.

People usually hear that I don't like illegal immigration and they call me racist against latinos. People hear that I doubt that global warming is a big catastrophe or that it's even man made and people call me stupid, wasteful, that I don't care about the environment, etc. People hear that I'm against gay marriage and start telling me I'm homophobic. Instead of listening to my reasons, they just defame me.

I also have to admit that I don't know every bit of detail on every topic, but an important difference between me and the people I'm complaining about is that I'm willing to change my mind if enough logical information is presented to me where I can say "Oh yeah, that makes sense. Okay I support that." I don't mind that other people disagree with me. That's just a fact of life. But the people I'm complaining about are the ones who immediately, upon hearing your differing opinion, will seek only to discredit you and your opinion instead of encouraging communication so the issue can be discussed and a resolution made, even if that resolution is just to agree to disagree.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Renegade on February 28, 2008, 08:01 PM
Gay marriage is probably not something that should be discussed here at DC :)

Exactly. That's why I didn't go into any reasons.

As long as everyone agrees that what other people do is none of their business it seems like an ok topic. ;)

Another thing that ticks me off --- policital correctness and (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif)ers that can't keep their personal opinions out of other people's business.

I was chatting with a few people down at the British Embassy pub here, and mother-of-god... The insane laws that are being passed in North America and the UK are just off-the-hook crazy infringements on personal liberties! Makes me sick.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Dell[a] on February 28, 2008, 09:25 PM
yeah deozan, Gothic went through the lengthy and expensive procedures to get his permanent residence card....   did I mention expensive???? It took us about 2 years just to get enough money to file all that paperwork. It was nuts.

Anyways, I don't agree with the "illegal" immigrants, but I do think that immigration should be a little less expensive. I mean, give people a chance right? Do all the paperwork, back ground checks whatever, but why does it have to cost this outrageous price to do it?

Ok, I will shut up now...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on February 29, 2008, 12:42 AM
yeah deozan, Gothic went through the lengthy and expensive procedures to get his permanent residence card....   did I mention expensive???? It took us about 2 years just to get enough money to file all that paperwork. It was nuts.

Anyways, I don't agree with the "illegal" immigrants, but I do think that immigration should be a little less expensive. I mean, give people a chance right? Do all the paperwork, back ground checks whatever, but why does it have to cost this outrageous price to do it?

Ok, I will shut up now...

Yeah and they increased the fees last July! I think part of the solution for illegal immigration, besides what I already said, would be to make it easier to immigrate legally. If you're from a country where your wage is $100 a month, and half of that is taken up by rent, it will be really hard to save up for those fees.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Jammo the OrganizedFellow on May 22, 2008, 09:51 PM
5. people who treat ADHD as an excuse for their/someones behavior, and state they/someone has the condition based on their ill-educated perspective.

Please tell me you are not one of those people who thinks this is not a real disorder?
OH NO!
Quite the contrary!

I've been properly diagnosed! After seeing 3 Psychologists, they finally got it right! I am currently on 60mg daily Straterra and a high regime of note taking, Zen-like GTD and following my ADD Coach/Wife.

I mean I don't like hearing people just throw the word around, like it's just easier to say OH I HAVE ADHD -or- <THIS PERSON> MUST BE ADHD, just because the person is forgetful, or inattentive, or lazy, etc.
It's a word that nowadays gets thrown around alot, very easily so too!
Just like OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), which a close friend of mine has. She is taking her meds, and copes with her 'disorder' with the help of her spouse.

Society has become quick to slap a label on something or someone. It sucks.

5. people who treat ADHD as an excuse for their/someones behavior, and state they/someone has the condition based on their ill-educated perspective.

Please tell me you are not one of those people who thinks this is not a real disorder?
There's a difference between suffering from a disorder, and hiding behind a disorder and excusing everything and yourself because of it.. and behaving like a total jerk. Using an illness/disorder as a bad excuse for being ill-mannered is pretty unfair to the people that really suffer and try to cope with it.
In all fairness, some of us don't suffer! We cope with it just as you or anyone else copes with a bad hair day (lame example perhaps!).
Of course I speak for myself and a few others whom I know with ADHD, and anyone who KNOWS someone with a severe disorder knows how terrible it can makes ones life.
I try my best to not let this ruin my life or make things difficult for me. I takes notes when asking directions, I write things on the back of my hand, I carry a pocket notebook and pen, I leave myself voice notes, I have daily SMS reminders to take my meds, take our the trash wash the dishes. I even have a daily SMS reminder to change the babys diaper.
I cope as best I can.
So when someone takes light of this disorder, it really bothers me.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on May 23, 2008, 03:53 AM
People who abuse the authority and power given to them.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on May 23, 2008, 04:25 AM
I know this off-topic but I couldnt stop myself (yes, I'm procrastinating (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/WHISTLE.GIF))

Sure, the temperature may have risen on average over the last however many years, but I'm under the impression that that's just natural, periodic heating and cooling of the earth.

@Deozaan,
the problem is: if it continues & we continue contributing to it (which is obviously the case), well, put it this way, if you live near the sea you could be losing your house pretty soon and that might even be the least of your worries.
It could be natural, but we'll still be screwed :)

I've always being pretty sparing (following my parents example I guess) but I got a bit of a shock lately when I got an offer: - if I pay my electricity for the year in one go (an estimated amount which they kept pretty low) I get it at a reduced price per KW
The fact it's estimated & a low estimate at that, has me afraid that I'll get a huge bill at the end of the year for the balance & has made me much more conscious of how wasteful I can be.

What with the cost of these things moneywise & the possible cost of these things environmentwise I think it simply makes sense not to be wasteful or overly extravagant

Also, it's very easy to say they do that why shouldnt I (drive a car that guzzles gas, whatever) - ???? imagine if everyone went for the lowest common demoninater with beliefs & or actions - that would be, eh, interesting!! (I'm not saying you are in general -but- "telling me stay away from airplanes, automobiles, and technology in general and go green, all the while riding private jets across the world to preach global warming" smacks a bit of it)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Grorgy on May 23, 2008, 04:36 AM
I have to say either way the things that reduce these green house gases seem to be all good things anyway, reduce pollution, be more sustainable, and if there is no global warming we've just left a better cleaner more pleasant environment for the next generations, if it is real then we may have saved the planet, personally I have trouble seeing a downside.  (I'm procrastinating too  ;) )
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on May 23, 2008, 08:32 AM
Crumb! There is an excellent YouTube video series on this by a science teacher in the states... just can't remember his name or any of the links  :o Anyway, his bottom line on global warming is in line with what Grorgy says above.

Grorgy and Tom - couldn't have said it better myself  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Perry Mowbray on May 23, 2008, 08:36 AM
Global Warming/Climate Change: First off, I've got to say I'm not a true believer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_believer_syndrome). Which is not meant to cast aspersions on the Climate Change arguments, it is a complex area and both sides have valid data.

Although, I am very concerned with our resource use (which I think is almost immoral in the 1st World).

Earth Hour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour) is when we're all meant to turn our lights off for an hour? That may save the individual establishments off their electrical bill, but it doesn't save any electricity. Here in Australia 97% of our electricity is generated by burning coal (we have heaps of it). All that electricity is pumped down the electricity infrastructure, but if it isn't used it goes to waste. There's no battery to store it for later use. I'm not sure where it goes, maybe it just doesn't get into the infrastructure in the first place  :-\ But all coal has been burnt to generate the desired level of power that is estimated to be required. That's why we get brown-outs: usage outstrips supply. But when supply outstrips usage it's just wastage.

Apparently there is archaeological evidence of agriculture in Greenland, so the Greenlanders can look forward to fluctuating back to a climate they had previously. I heard recently that the climate scientists that predicting a mini-ice age because of the lack of solar flares: so I was left wondering how much we're contributing to the process. I imagine it's almost impossible to say. Just makes it confusing having one side say all and the other saying none.


Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Renegade on May 23, 2008, 08:46 AM
On my way home from Hong Kong a little while ago, I picked up a National Geographic special edition on climate change. It had lots of numbers and hard facts, which I found refreshing. I HATE namby-pamby feel-good drivel that isn't backed up with anything. This was not that. Lots of good meaty stuff in there presenting a serious case.

That being said, it looks bleak for planet Earth. The rate of change is astonishing, and will seriously affect all of us in our lifetimes.

But I'm still not going to care in the least about recycling plastic or paper when the energy consumption from that is greater than producing it from raw materials and is hastening climate change. I'll still conscientiously recycle tin and metal as the energy consumption there is well worth it. But I won't stop complaining about the plastic & paper...

Sigh... Hell in a handbasket... :(

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 23, 2008, 09:39 AM
People who post reviews which are nothing more than summaries of what they read on another site rather than independent thoughts of their own. You see this running rampant on betanews.com and any anti-microsoft site where people take the word of someone else rather than checking into the issue at hand for themselves.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Renegade on May 23, 2008, 12:17 PM
People who post reviews which are nothing more than summaries of what they read on another site rather than independent thoughts of their own. You see this running rampant on betanews.com and any anti-microsoft site where people take the word of someone else rather than checking into the issue at hand for themselves.

Amen to that one!

What really p!$$3s me off is the security crap I hear... Grrr...

Another few topics:

-- Internet Explorer
-- Windows Media Player
-- QuickTime
-- RealPlayer

They are NOT what they are touted to be. They are all PLATFORMS! Very very very few people get that.

IE is NOT a browser.

WMP is NOT a media player.

QuickTime is NOT a media player.

RealPlayer is NOT a media player.

They function as those, but are so much more than just that.

FF? Opera? iTunes? WinAmp? etc. etc. etc.

They don't compare at all. The comparisons between them are just silly.

Ok -- Rant is at it's end now.

Anyone else want to tweak me off and get me started? :)

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on May 23, 2008, 02:06 PM
Anyone else want to tweak me off and get me started?

Yes  ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: kartal on May 23, 2008, 02:46 PM
People who do not reply to emails and the people who do not return calls annoys me most.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on May 23, 2008, 06:11 PM
- People who say that rules are for breaking.
- People who will never agree that they made mistake / bug / error. Incompetent fools. >:(

Global Warming
Scientists talking that melting the Polar Ice Cap will make whole world in flood. They don't even know that an ice has less density than liquid water. If you put ice cubes into glass and fill the rest of it by water, even if the ice will melt, it will never go outside container.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on May 23, 2008, 06:16 PM
Global Warming
Scientists talking that melting the Polar Ice Cap will make whole world in flood. They don't even know that an ice has less density than liquid water. If you put ice cubes into glass and fill the rest of it by water, even if the ice will melt, it will never go outside container.
-fenixproductions (May 23, 2008, 06:11 PM)
I think you're oversimplifying the matter. One thing is that (minor) floods are already reality, another is that it's not just about floods... things like changing the saline balance of the gulf stream has nasty repercussions as well.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: kartal on May 23, 2008, 06:27 PM
fenixproductions,
That is quite a stretch. Claiming that you understand global warming problem better than hundreds of scientiest outhere is naive. In life every structure affects eachother. If any kind of damage done to biggest structures of earth there would be another reaction to those drastic changes. It is called equilibrium.


I just do not understand people who keep repeating that it is not man made. So because it is not man made we should not do anything about it? Some people just keep repeating what media tells them and then they claim that those are their personal ideas.


Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on May 23, 2008, 06:34 PM
Some people just keep repeating what media tells them and then they claim that those are their personal ideas.

Personally I'm of the opinion that people who think Global Warming is caused by humans are doing exactly that. Because that's the only thing the media reports. They only discredit and defame those who try to say otherwise.

EDIT: To clarify what I meant and remove a great generalization, I should say that I think most people who think Global Warming is caused by man are doing exactly that. Obviously there are smart people who have considered the issue and come to their own conclusions, and I don't mean to call those people "sheep of the media" just because they came to a conclusion I disagree with.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on May 23, 2008, 06:40 PM
Some people just keep repeating what media tells them and then they claim that those are their personal ideas.

Personally I'm of the opinion that people who think Global Warming is caused by humans are doing exactly that. Because that's the only thing the media reports. They only discredit and defame those who try to say otherwise.
Around here, the (serious) media report both sides of the story. Sure, weight is given to the "humans have an influence" camp, but they do generally come off as a bit more credible than the other camp (I recently heard of a .no report claiming that there was really nothing to worry about, since the climate is about the same as in 1998... forgetting to say that 1998 was one of the hottest years in a long time period).

Whatever causes the warming, denying it is stupid - because it is happening, and it will have nasty consequences. How big a part mankind has in the warming is debatable, but it's my personal belief that we should at least try to do something about it. Even if that doesn't help against the warming, at least it would reduce pollution and excess consumption.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on May 23, 2008, 07:10 PM
2f0dder
I know that even butterfly can make a tornado. I know it is not just about floods but... some prophecies for GW are too ridiculous to me (i.e. why should I worry about temperature going up).

2kartal
I do not claim that I understand GW better than "hundreds of scientists". But why it is so "trendy" to talk about it? I now that it might be true but why it is so hard to find out arguments for other side? The only thing that comes to my mind is that it is very simple to get refund for searching for deadly topics. If you ever wonder can giraffe kill a man you will never gain a grant BUT if you will yell "Every giraffe is so mad that can kill a man" then you will get $$ and few people may believe so. Well, you can even prove them that they didn't spend a cash for nothing.

Personally: I do not believe GW is man made. Whole humanity exist too short period of time to have such big influence. I know that there are many dangerous things but I am looking through history:
Some time ago whole earth was covered by ocean.
Some time ago there was one land only.
Some time ago whole earth was covered by jungle and pretty big lizards.
Some time ago whole earth was covered by ice.
Some time ago it was well known that next Ice Age is coming.

During all of it there were periodically weather changes around the globe. It is not something new.

After all whole GW case seems so ridiculous for me as being vegetarian not because of health problems.
Unfortunately too many people just repeating what media told them without any doubts. We can discuss in this flame topic after all because being a dog is always better than a sheep;)

PS. Opera spellcheck (http://my.opera.com/Sombria/blog/userjs-orangoo-spell-check) rules.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on May 23, 2008, 07:17 PM
Whatever causes the warming, denying it is stupid - because it is happening, and it will have nasty consequences. How big a part mankind has in the warming is debatable, but it's my personal belief that we should at least try to do something about it.

I'm certainly not suggesting we trash the environment. I'm all for energy efficiency, and reducing toxic chemicals, etc.

The problem with Global Warming is that if mankind didn't cause it, there's nothing we can do to "stop causing" it. If mankind did nothing to bring it on, then it wouldn't matter if we shut down all carbon emissions in the entire world because it would have happened regardless of there being any human on the planet or not.

I'd rather focus on more important things we can do something about. Food shortages, disease research, alternative fuels for vehicles, nuclear power, etc.

Do you think that the recent food shortages might have anything to do with farmers growing millions of acres of corn to be used for ethanol instead of actually growing food? Do you realize that the amount of corn it takes to produce enough ethanol to fill a standard SUV's gas tank once could feed a man for a year? Talk about a massive waste of resources and harm to the environment!

Plus just the idea of making countries pay for Carbon Credits is ludicrous. Who's generating the carbons and saying "alright guys, we have this much this year, buy 'em up?" It's just a scam to punish wealthy countries, making them buy invisible goods that don't exist by placing a false limit on them. Next thing you know we're going to have to buy "oxygen credits" so we can breathe with approval from the UN or whatever stupid organization is setting up these silly regulations.

I personally believe that while the temperature of the earth has gone up 1 degree or whatever, the idea of it being man-made is false, and that the earth naturally goes through warm and cold cycles and this is one of them. However, in saying that, I also believe that we should do things to keep the earth clean, and we should focus our millions of billions of dollars on things that we can actually affect: Food, medical, and power. I honestly can't see any reason, given current technology and resources, why there are parts of the world without these three basic things. Well, okay, the only reason I can see is "Dollar Signs in the Eyes" of certain organizations or people.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on May 23, 2008, 07:28 PM
Why should you worry about temperature rising? Even if you don't live in an area that is directly affected, or if you live in an area that would be mostly positively affected (like .dk), I'm sure you'd change your mind when the floods of immigrants from the now-desert countries start overrunning your borders... or when the flora and fauna changes, and you can no longer plant the crops you're used to, and nasty damaging insects appear that couldn't live in your climate before. Everything is connected.

As for not being man-caused, ho humm. The climate has been repeating in cycles, with an ice age roughly every 10k years. Temperature has been rising steadily for the last however-many years, but the temperature increase has been accelerating the last however-less-many years. It's not just the north pole that's melting at an increase rate, btw, some skiing resorts are in trouble too.

I'm not claiming to be a scientist who understands all the puzzle pieces, nor even to have followed the whole deal closely enough to have all that much insight. But I wouldn't be the least surprised if mankind hasn't helped accelerate the natural[/b] global warming.

Do you think that the recent food shortages might have anything to do with farmers growing millions of acres of corn to be used for ethanol instead of actually growing food? Do you realize that the amount of corn it takes to produce enough ethanol to fill a standard SUV's gas tank once could feed a man for a year? Talk about a massive waste of resources and harm to the environment!
-Deozaan
The bioethanol crop deal has a lot to do with the current food shortages and rising prices, and imho it's a pretty stupid thing. Also, while I'm not a fan of overuse of pesticides, insisting on organic farming in 3rd world countries is madness, because it's a lot more inefficient there than in developed countries.

Focus on moving to alternate fuel for cars is a good idea, but bio-ethanol isn't necessarily the best solution. Convincing people that they don't need big hummers and SUVs, and that a family could perhaps do with one car instead of two, would be a much better start. Then, focus on things like Hydrogen cars (using clean persistant energy sources like windmills or water power to produce the Hydrogen). Electricity-powered cars would also be a benefit for the smaller everyday <200km trips.

Carbon credits is lame. I do believe that you should pay for polluting, but letting countries trade carbon credits voids the whole idea.

Oh, and people need to be more realistic and accept nuclear power. It's really a lot cleaner than a lot of other choices.

Btw., we haven't had a real winter in Denmark for the last many years. When I was a kid, we used to have pretty long winters with -10C or colder temperatures. Now all we get is a few weeks of snow.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Grorgy on May 23, 2008, 07:29 PM
When 90% or more of reputable scientists agree, and many of the apologists for the no global warming side I've discovered are funded and/or employed directly by the major producers of pollutants generally and green house gases in particular I tend to go with the majority of reputable scientists.  Of course they have been wrong before, the world was flat at one stage of our history, bleeding people was considered a valuable treatment in many illnesses.

I guess its trendy to talk about it these days because if it happens and the predictions of catastrophic change in 50 to 200 yrs are correct then we are among the last who can do anything about it.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on May 23, 2008, 07:34 PM
Well f0dder, it sounds like though we disagree on the "root topic," we're on the same page of what are some of the beneficial steps to take. :Thmbsup:

I think this is why I brought up Global Warming in the first place in this thread. Because just about anywhere else, if I were to say I didn't think it was caused by man, I'd immediately be defamed, ridiculed, and shut down instead of being able to have an intelligent conversation and be able to reach the point of finding out that we both have very similar "solutions" even if we don't agree on what the problem is.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: kartal on May 23, 2008, 07:47 PM
It is beyond lame. It is avoding the problem and sure it is done for profit, no merit in it.

Carbon credits is lame. I do believe that you should pay for polluting, but letting countries trade carbon credits voids the whole idea.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: urlwolf on May 23, 2008, 08:16 PM
Opera. So close to perfection, and so delicately screwed up by a tremendous design error or badly implemented feature.

Almost anything in opera is innovative and better than most other browsers. But then, they seem to have taken pains to make _every single user on earth_ to find a showstopper.

In my case, it's no html copy/paste, and more recently, huge bugs with M2 (it just won't retrieve mail anymore; but wait, it doesn't let me export mail either -so much for changing applications!). I'm stuck with gmail... till a dev fixes the bug I carefully reported... which could easily be never.

I'm an user since v 5. I paid for it when it was not free. The advantage: I got support. Now, you cannot get support even paying. An important difference.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wreckedcarzz on May 23, 2008, 08:56 PM
Btw., we haven't had a real winter in Denmark for the last many years. When I was a kid, we used to have pretty long winters with -10C or colder temperatures. Now all we get is a few weeks of snow.

IMO Global Warming is half man, half nature. Morons are driving cars spewing out god knows what, people pollute the air and... <insert page-long rant here>.

I have never seen snow. Granted I am in the desert, but cmon. In the "mountains" we get light snow for a week or two, but I personally have never seen snow (my sister hasn't either).

Winter cold here is like 40 degrees (I wear a T-Shirt and shorts, people call me insane but its fine for me) and the summers hit 125+. People should not cook themselves.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on May 23, 2008, 09:00 PM
wreckedcarzz: remember to include temperature indicator - it's pretty obvious you're not talking Celcius, but still ;). Oh, and your talk of never seeing snow... makes me think that some of the "oh, shaddap about GW already" people probably live in areas of the world where they aren't currently seeing any effects of it - which makes it easy to deny that there even is a problem?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 24, 2008, 01:00 AM
Mouser: Can we split off the global warming discussion into another thread? It seems to have hijacked this one
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on June 12, 2008, 06:19 AM
Opera. So close to perfection, and so delicately screwed up by a tremendous design error or badly implemented feature.

Opera, Opera, "Oh I used to love [it], but I'm all right now"
I miss it though :(
lack of plugin support I could live with, just about, but I've gotten so used to FlashBlock/Adblock - I know Opera is supposed to have alternatives but they either dont work as good or are too confusing to make the effort of figuring them out - I did make an attempt last year but gave up
Also little things that are just so much easier to do in FF & I think, why bother...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 12, 2008, 06:28 AM
Opera, YES! I wish for 3rd party support. Not even extension support, but a way for programs to tie into the browser. I would kill for the day to see roboform working with opera. It would make my web browsing days complete if I could see such a feat!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Jimdoria on June 16, 2008, 02:37 PM
Ooops - late to the party, and don't really have anything to say about global warming, but stuff that annoys me  :Thmbsup:

* Lawyers without ethics
* Modern-day Pharisees
* The sad, sad state of education in the U.S.
* Wire coat hangers (Quote: "Wire hangers are the world's grouchiest items." - Oscar The Grouch)

...and the special prize for being the most consistently and enduringly annoying:

* Microsoft
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 16, 2008, 03:12 PM
There are two kinds of people in the world: Those who divide everybody into two kinds of people, and those who don't.

My favourite variant of this is:

There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can add and those who can't.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on June 16, 2008, 05:39 PM
People who send emails that are just spam virus warnings:

****ZOOMG!! KIILLER VIRUS WARNIGN****
THIS ONE IS REAL!!1!1!!11 IT WAS REPORTED ON SNOPES

Then you look it up on the snopes link conveniently placed in the email, and the article says it's a hoax  :-\ :-\ :-\

I love my mother very much... but dang Mom, stop with the emails already!!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on December 09, 2008, 03:59 AM
Here is one for you all, websites with forms which auto-advance you once you fill the field completely (like telephone numbers, area codes and zip codes). THIS PISSES ME OFF! If i want to change it I have to be very quick to hit DELETE so I can make the change. STOP IT!!!!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: city_zen on December 09, 2008, 09:34 AM
Nextels' "beep-beep"  (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/klnie.gif)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on December 09, 2008, 11:00 AM
Myself.

I always end up feeling I should  - and could be - more than I am.

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 ;D

----------------------

Also that "Woo-hoo,  woo-hoo-hoo" thing that runs all the way through those Vonage commercials.

I will never subscribe to Vonage because I hate their commercials so much.

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on December 11, 2008, 11:25 PM
Being interrupted & losing my work, by updates for software I didn't even know I had (such as that on my mobile phone).
AVG keeping me informed of what it's doing while preventing me from going online, with messages I don't even understand.
Conflicting definitions of file types when looked up online:
".XYZ is a known Trojan Horse."
"Contrary to popular belief, .XYZ files are not Trojan Horse files. They are needed by your system in order for it to run properly.

GRRR!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 24, 2009, 08:12 AM
People who use big words, or words that are very uncommon, to attempt to show their intelligence, education level, or just sound smart. This annoys me because 9 times out of 10 the words are not necessary. Yes, you may be a very educated person, but you do not need to attempt to prove it every time you talk, post, or express yourself.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on May 24, 2009, 08:57 AM
People who use big words, or words that are very uncommon, to attempt to show their intelligence, education level, or just sound smart. This annoys me because 9 times out of 10 the words are not necessary. Yes, you may be a very educated person, but you do not need to attempt to prove it every time you talk, post, or express yourself.

I sympathize with this to a degree. However, once a word enters your vocabulary, it becomes PART of your vocabulary (and therefore come naturally in conversation/writing) and 1. it'd be a shame not to use it! and 2. sometimes high falutin' words just get the idea across more efficiently and accurately. Thus, I don't think that ALL big words are used because posters are attempting to show off - maybe using the big word just feels natural to them and conveys their thoughts most accurately?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on May 24, 2009, 10:45 AM
People who use big words, or words that are very uncommon, to attempt to show their intelligence, education level, or just sound smart. This annoys me because 9 times out of 10 the words are not necessary. Yes, you may be a very educated person, but you do not need to attempt to prove it every time you talk, post, or express yourself.

I sympathize with this to a degree. However, once a word enters your vocabulary, it becomes PART of your vocabulary (and therefore come naturally in conversation/writing) and 1. it'd be a shame not to use it! and 2. sometimes high falutin' words just get the idea across more efficiently and accurately. Thus, I don't think that ALL big words are used because posters are attempting to show off - maybe using the big word just feels natural to them and conveys their thoughts most accurately?

+1. I love unusual, archaic, oddball words. I sort of collect them although I usually scale my vocabulary to whomever I talking to. For those friends of mine who love words, anything goes. We collect and trade them back and forth. No harm intended.

Besides, what's the point of speaking English (which contains the world's largest number of words) unless you can also play with it?

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on May 24, 2009, 11:02 AM
Agreed, totally +1.  And I don't use them to attempt to show my education, as I am more often than not disappointed when I have to explain what I said.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nudone on May 24, 2009, 11:39 AM
i love big words, unless i don't know them - then i just feel like a dork. but that's part of the fun.

two things that i do find annoying:

1. repeatedly forgetting what a particular big word meant - therefore feeling like a dork again.

2. people that don't really use big words trying to use a trendy big word that is currently doing the rounds.

perhaps it's just me, but i've noticed people saying "plethora" recently - one minor internet radio celebrity has to say it, at least, once during every single show they do. "zeitgeist" seemed a bit trendy a few years back with media folk - now, none of them say it.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Shook on May 24, 2009, 01:56 PM
Well, there are a number of things that tick me off, considering my bad temper, but there are some that stand above everything else:
- When people intentionally take and/or mess with my stuff, without my permission. Even more so if the intention is to annoy me.
- When people frame me, as in, they say that i did something that i didn't do in reality. Even if people were kidding, i would take it as a grave offense.
- Being interrupted repeatedly while speaking. Luckily not an issue over the internet. ;)
- When people prevent me from doing whatever I'm doing or what I'm about to do (scratching my head, laying my arm across my stomach or whatever).
- Constantly losing at the same point in a video game.
- Video games that crash repeatedly and without any reason. (I'm looking at you, Fallout 3!)

... Can't be good for my mental health. :huh:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mouser on May 24, 2009, 03:38 PM
Few things upset me as much as when i misplace something and can't find it..  Even more so when i do it repeatedly and know that i should have taken more care to keep track of it.  I really get mad at myself.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on May 24, 2009, 06:03 PM
Few things upset me as much as when i misplace something and can't find it..  Even more so when i do it repeatedly and know that i should have taken more care to keep track of it.  I really get mad at myself.

How about buying a replacement for a misplaced item, only to find it the next day...that's really annoying.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mrainey on May 24, 2009, 07:46 PM
The fact that about a quarter of the Internet population spells "lose" with two o's when referring to misplacing something.

I just might loose my mind!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on May 24, 2009, 08:54 PM
- Video games that crash repeatedly and without any reason. (I'm looking at you, Fallout 3!)

Wow... I haven't had that problem; neither have any of my friends that are playing it.  Are you patched to the latest version and are your video drivers up to date?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 24, 2009, 09:07 PM
This happens to me ALL THE TIME! It hasnt happened so much with Vista as it did with XP, but lately the issues have been when the SERVEr I am playing on has an issue and restarts suddenly causing my game to crash rather than an actual game bug.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 25, 2009, 09:40 AM
Smart phone menu systems which route calls to a call center based on the area code the received call is from! THIS IS HORRIBLE. With the advent of VOIP, you can have an area code anywhere in the country. I have a 910 area code on my phone number but I live in the 301/443 area code district. As such, whenever I call verizon I am routed to Florida which handles North Carolina (910) and they have to transfer me to the Virginia service center. STOP THIS MADNESS. You would think verizon, an internet services company, would realize that some people take phone numbers with them and move around the country, ESPECIALLY THE MILITARY.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on May 25, 2009, 07:44 PM
The fact that about a quarter of the Internet population spells "lose" with two o's when referring to misplacing something.

I just might loose my mind!

Only a quarter?  I think your estimation is a bit loose - more like 90%......and yes, it annoys the crap out of me too!

Josh, Darwin, 40Hz and nudone were talking about big words a few posts up which reminded me of a card I have here that I never got around to sending to someone.

What Darwin, 40Hz and nudone would say:
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What Josh would say:
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Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 25, 2009, 08:25 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! :beerchug:

Like I said, I have no objection to being eloquent with my vocabulary, but only if the situation dictates it. One place I hate to see it is on a forum where one cannot know the sheer level of education behind the users.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on May 25, 2009, 09:08 PM
W.S. Gibert put it very nicely in his classic poem If You're Anxious for to Shine in the High Aesthetic Line


...

If you're anxious for to shine in the high aesthetic line as a man of culture rare,
You must get up all the germs of the transcendental terms, and plant them
     everywhere.

You must lie upon the daisies and discourse in novel phrases of your complicated
     state of mind.

The meaning doesn't matter if it's only idle chatter of a transcendental kind.
                      
                      And everyone will say,
                      As you walk your mystic way,

"If this young man expresses himself in terms too deep for me,

Why, what a very singularly deep young man this deep young man must be!"

...


Now I could try to do it better
Using words with many letters,
To construct a clever verse or two.

But it seems a bloody waste
When I can do a 'cut and paste,'
And share a better poet's poem with you!

 ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on May 26, 2009, 07:34 AM
Now I could try to do it better
-hz
Not bad, I think you're almost ready for the oily cart!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on May 26, 2009, 09:49 AM
This happens to me ALL THE TIME! It hasnt happened so much with Vista as it did with XP, but lately the issues have been when the SERVEr I am playing on has an issue and restarts suddenly causing my game to crash rather than an actual game bug.

Server?  Are we still talking about Fallout 3?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 26, 2009, 10:24 AM
Battlefield 2.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on May 26, 2009, 04:05 PM
Here is a partial list of things that you get from all too many tech companies that piss me off. (Taken from my giant list of "Things that piss me off").

   1. Pre-installed junk software that comes on new computers. (Known semi-officially as "crapware").
      a. Pre-installed junk software that is only a "free trial" and wants to upsell you at a price that is more than if you bought it otherwise.
      b. Pre-installed junk software that is difficult or impossible to uninstall.
      c. Pre-installed junk software that is a minimal or crippled version that keeps trying to upsell you an upgraded version.

   2. Full, retail-priced software that has junk included in the installer that you don't want. (Yahoo Toolbar, anyone?)

   3. Software that, upon installation, "breaks" other software on your computer.

   4. "Sundown dates" where a software company announces that your version will not be supported after that date, forcing you to upgrade to their newer version.  Which all too often is the same as the old version but with a new look.

   5. Not telling me the real full price upfront, or selling software that doesn't really work unless you purchase additional add-ons.

   6. Software that phones home with more information about me than I want them to have.

   7. Software that embeds itself so deeply that it cannot easily be fully uninstalled.

   8. Outsourced tech support, especially to overseas companies with non-English-speaking techs reading from scripts. Especially when they give their names as Steve or Linda! (This is not a hit on the ones that are well-trained and do really help, but the ones that have no training other than reading from a very basic script, or that cannot speak nor understand my language well enough to converse).

   9. Companies with confusing or misleading EULA's. (Early on says they will never give your data to another company, then later says they WILL give it to "trusted companies" only to offer you great products.)

   10. Companies that sell my personal info to telemarketing firms.

   11. Confusing privacy policies that appear to have been written by monkeys - and I apologize if that offends any monkeys out there.

   12. Software licenses that limit installation to one computer only. (IMO all should be usable on one stationary and one mobile computer).

   13. "Razor and Blades" scams wherein you are sold an inexpensive primary product that requires endless additional purchases of outrageously priced consumables.  (Inkjet printers and ink cartridges).

That's enough for here - I don't want to get too bitchy.

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 26, 2009, 04:30 PM
People who take there time switching into the interstate/highway lanes after entering from an exit. MERGE ALREADY! YOU ARE SLOWING UP PROGRESS!!!


And all of the *#%( DAMNED ICONS that quicken places on my desktop on a clean install!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on May 26, 2009, 04:42 PM

And all of the *#%( DAMNED ICONS that quicken places on my desktop on a clean install!

Grrrrr.. I feel your pain with Quicken!

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mouser on May 26, 2009, 05:09 PM
J-Mac, that's a very nice list of software annoyances.. maybe worth making into a list on a website somewhere.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on May 26, 2009, 05:20 PM
J-Mac, that's a very nice list of software annoyances.. maybe worth making into a list on a website somewhere.

Ha! You should see my entire list!!

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Shook on May 27, 2009, 08:29 AM
Computer-related hate train departing now, toot-toot!

- Pop-ups. Seriously, they're just obstructions, and something tells me that the amount of clicks is about 1 per 10000 pop-ups.
- Excessively animated banner ads (HELLO ADVENTUREQUEST). They use a lot of bandwidth, which slows down both browsing and flash games.
- Anti-virus/spyware programs that say "Oh hay you have like one million problems on your PC, buy this product to get rid of them!".
- Programs that crash and freeze up for no reason. (I think i stated this one previously, but that was about video games. =P)
- Programs that get all "Our program is THE BEST PROGRAM EVAR!", after which you find out that it's a bunch of... Poo.
- Time limited trial versions of any kind. Seriously, just give me a cut-down demo without timer, and i'll be happy, and i might even buy the product.
- Computers that start so slowly that a european forest slug could crawl all the way across the monitor before the computer was ready. (School computers, grr! *Shakes fist*)
- Blue screen of death. I don't think this needs any explanation.
- Unintuitive interfaces. Sure, i can live with them, but i'd rather not have to.
- The Match 3 genre of games. The first few were pretty good, but the next million? Not as much. Even the few twists the developers sometimes apply can't save it from the demon that is known as "hopeless cloning".

... Off the top of my head. ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Fred Nerd on May 28, 2009, 07:04 AM
Back to big words
(never use a long word when a diminutive one will suffice)..........

I worked out a routine for a female friend of mine to try out next time some bloke was hitting on her at a bar..
'Despite the impression you may derive from my presence in this locality, it behoves me not to acquience to your request'
(him): 'I don't get it'
(her): *smug* 'Exactly'
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: drum6789 on May 28, 2009, 07:48 PM
When people eat/chew incredibly loud, ads, conspiracy theories, pointless e-mail forwards.  Stuff like that.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on May 29, 2009, 02:53 AM
I'm with you on the e mail -

"If you don't forward this, something bad will happen" :mad:

Rubbish!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on May 29, 2009, 04:27 AM
Software that looks great (such as, but in no way limited to, CLCL) but doesn't install, or doesn't install all the way, leaving me wondering what happened...really annoying!  :down:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on May 29, 2009, 09:31 AM
Companies that do underhanded things to try to sabotage another company's efforts because they can't compete.

No, I'm not talking about Microsoft, but EA right now.  I ordered Mirror's Edge off of Steam, and then ordered the DLC through EA's store since they didn't put it on Steam, and it won't work!  They could at least (its been months apparently since this first surfaced) put a disclaimer on the DLC page, but nothing...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 29, 2009, 10:16 AM
People who use the word INFER when they obviously mean IMPLY!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on May 29, 2009, 11:17 AM
"If you don't forward this, something bad will happen"

Rubbish!
Will you please stop forwarding to me all your rubbish?!

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mwb1100 on May 29, 2009, 12:39 PM
   11. Confusing privacy policies that appear to have been written by monkeys - and I apologize if that offends any monkeys out there.

In the interest of reducing confusion, there are really only 2 types of privacy policy:

1. simple to read policies that pretty much clearly state that your privacy will be repected to the extent permitted by law

2. all others - no privacy protection is afforded.  See http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2009/05/26/9640963.aspx for some details.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on May 29, 2009, 10:11 PM
   11. Confusing privacy policies that appear to have been written by monkeys - and I apologize if that offends any monkeys out there.

In the interest of reducing confusion, there are really only 2 types of privacy policy:

1. simple to read policies that pretty much clearly state that your privacy will be repected to the extent permitted by law

2. all others - no privacy protection is afforded.  See http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2009/05/26/9640963.aspx for some details.


You missed #3) Privacy Policies that state in one paragraph:

The information we collect is used to improve the content of our Web page, used by us to contact consumers for marketing purposes, not shared with other organizations for commercial purposes, disclosed when legally required to do so, at the request of governmental authorities conducting an investigation, to verify or enforce compliance with the policies governing our Web site and applicable laws or to protect against misuse or unauthorized use of our Web site.
(Emphasis mine)

So you think you are safe. But then farther down the page in a different paragraph it states:

From time to time, we make the e-mail addresses of those who access our site available to other reputable organizations whose products or services we think you might find interesting.

And farther down the page yet another paragraph states:

If you supply us with your postal address on-line you may receive periodic mailings from us with information on new products and services or upcoming events.

Sounds like just them, doesn't it? Ha! This is a couple more paragraphs down the page:

Please provide us with your exact name and address. We will be sure your name is removed from the list we share with other organizations

... and ....

Please provide us with your name and phone number. We will be sure your name is removed from the list we share with other organizations From time to time, we may use customer information for new, unanticipated uses not previously disclosed in our privacy notice.

Don't you love it?!  BTW, this privacy is from the web site of Granite City Tools (http://www.granitecitytool.com/privacy.cfm), from whom I purchased a few bottles of granite countertop cleaner/polish after having a new kitchen installed. Their policy now has opt-out instructions but did not when I made my purchase. Nor was their policy this "clear" then; it was much denser then. After receiving the cleaner I started receiving monstrous catalogs from tool companies selling granite cutting tools, mining tools (Yes, excavators larger than the entire block where my house is!), at the rate of about two to three a day. And these catalogs were of the major city phonebook size variety. Though I contacted them by phone, email, and postal mail they never responded, so I had to get off the lists my own way.

They should all die of something painful....   :mad: 8)

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mrainey on May 30, 2009, 08:50 AM
Grownups saying "Woo Hoo!!!!"
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 30, 2009, 09:10 AM
Forums which have to give you the "Thanks for posting" or various other confirmation pages after certain activities occur. I don't need to be thanked for posting, just redirect me to my post and don't show me the unneeded middle-man page!!!!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on May 30, 2009, 10:13 AM
2Josh
I agree with you but there is one more annoying thing: crippled search with no links to posts with desired phrase. Instead of that, you receive list with URLs either to the beginning or to the end of monstrous thread. They give you some highlight, obviously, but I just f*ng hate to browse 20-pagers to discover that looked word was mentioned once with different context.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mwb1100 on May 30, 2009, 12:52 PM
Here are a couple common forum behaviors that drive me nuts:

1. most forum software searches completely and silently ignore search terms that are 3 characters or less. Quite often this means I can't search for what I need (there are a lot of terms that are 3 characters, but are not necessarily 'cut words' like "the" or "are").  But for chrissake, tell me if you're ignoring something in my search terms - especially if it's the only thing in the search!

2. support forums that don't let you search unless you've registered.  If I'm evaluating a product or just want to see if there's a solution to a particular problem, I don't want to have to jump through the hoops of registering for a forum I'll probably never want to make a post in.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on May 30, 2009, 01:02 PM
Software programs that unexpectedly open your browser and take you to a web page that you had no real need nor desire to visit.

And similarly, programs with their Help pages online that don't say that they are online. You are working offline - trying to get something done without getting hopelessly distracted so you are purposely not opening your web browser, and you click on Help on the program's menu bar, then Help Contents. And it opens your default browser (or worse, your non-default browser!) and takes you to their online help. There are times I would rather eschew Help altogether.

Let us not omit the programs that insist on opening your browser after you uninstall them to ask you why you would ever want to uninstall their amazing and wonderful program.

And a special salute to software developers who do not offer any Help file at all but instead have a PDF user manual hidden away somewhere on their web site. The manual is very complete and comprehensive - 340 pages long - but doesn't have any bookmarks, and has a Table of Contents that is not "clickable", meaning there are no working links in the manual. Manuals put together so carefully and thoughtfully usually have another great feature: The first 15 or 30 pages are "pre-numbered"; they are numbered with lower case Roman numerals: i, ii, iii, iv, etc. This serves to make any reference in the manual to page numbers completely bogus, since all PDF readers/viewers automatically number the page thumbnails starting on the first page or cover without any correlation to the author's fanciful pre-numbering scheme.

There are many more, but I grow weary....  :-[

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on May 30, 2009, 01:03 PM
1. most forum software searches completely and silently ignore search terms that are 3 characters or less. Quite often this means I can't search for what I need (there are a lot of terms that are 3 characters, but are not necessarily 'cut words' like "the" or "are").  But for chrissake, tell me if you're ignoring something in my search terms - especially if it's the only thing in the search!

2. support forums that don't let you search unless you've registered.  If I'm evaluating a product or just want to see if there's a solution to a particular problem, I don't want to have to jump through the hoops of registering for a forum I'll probably never want to make a post in.
Amen!

#1 is something that doco is guilty of too - it's annoyed me a few times here and there.

#2 is really annoying. I've signed up for enough sites already >_<
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 30, 2009, 04:20 PM
Drive thru's which block you in so you can't get out when you find out "Our ice cream machine isn't working". ARGH!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on May 30, 2009, 05:21 PM
I always try to buy what I can in person. But some things, like really hard to find items have to be ordered online, and what really gets me hot under the collar is:
Online stores that take your orders after you've
*finally found what you wanted
*shopped around for a good price
*given them your email address (I know, disposable email addresses - it looks like a PITA. Maybe I'll learn how to do that, someday.)
*given out your mailing address (can't do this without worrying about junk mail)
*given them your credit card number (yeah, yeah, it's "secure", like the massive hacks that have involved tens of thousands of customers at once)
*accepted their crappy shipping terms (will ship 1n 3-5 working days? (Well, fine, I've gone this far...let's just finish this transaction)
and worst of all,
*given them your money

only to find out, days later, that the items you ordered were out of stock - oops - but they'll order it for you (um, didn't I just do that??), then tell you to wait another 10 days to receive your products. No wonder nothing was marked "out of stock" on their web site - there is no stock!

People making money acting as middlemen - without disclosing who they are and the real wait time - IMO -are thieves. Sometimes it's too little, too late.
Yes, I could cancel the transaction & start over, but that's pretty disappointing, and really annoying, too.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on May 30, 2009, 05:46 PM
Drive thru's which block you in so you can't get out when you find out "Our ice cream machine isn't working". ARGH!!!!!!!!

Similarly, dying of thirst, driving around for 40 minutes obsessively trying to hunt down an Icee (must have!), soooooo happy you've finally found a place that sells them, then being told the machine is off because it's "sort of cloudy today".

And

A drive thru where you literally cannot understand a word they say over the loudspeaker!
Cashiers, please: You can talk too fast, string all your muffled words together into one long incoherent sound, or have a really thick accent. But all three and I'm lost. Add to that the usual crappy sound from the speaker, it gets annoying.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mwb1100 on May 30, 2009, 05:57 PM
Drive thru's which block you in so you can't get out when you find out "Our ice cream machine isn't working". ARGH!!!!!!!!

Never happened to me, but that sure does sound annoying!  The schadenfreude in me is making me chuckle as I think about it...  It might have made a nice little sub-plot on the old Seinfeld show - I can envision George Costanza doing something pretty funny in that situation.   They had one about a standoff over a parking spot, so why not this?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nudone on June 02, 2009, 04:28 AM
i've just remembered something that really does annoy me:

bloggers (well, any online writers) that don't put the publishing date on their articles and posts.

they may believe their content to be so important that it's going to be valid until the end of time - personally, i'd like to know when it was created so i can put it into context with any other articles i may look at.

my blood is starting to boil just thinking about how inconsiderate it is to not bother including the date.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nudone on June 02, 2009, 06:10 AM
i'm still having an annoying day...

i find this very annoying - and dumb:

online videos that only have two zoom/view settings, i.e. small, on the page that contains them or full screen.

how about having them resizable or, at least, being able to select something other than full screen.

how long has video been around on the web, and it's still only got two viewing sizes - this planet is retarded!

edit:
right, i've found you can insert "_popup" after the word "watch" in youtube urls so they'll fit to the insides or your browser window.

another edit:
i've realised there's a universal way of doing this for all onilne vids that have embed tags see here: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=18575.new#new
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on June 02, 2009, 06:29 AM
bloggers (well, any online writers) that don't put the publishing date on their articles and posts.

software revision pages that dont give dates for the updates
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 02, 2009, 07:43 AM
bloggers (well, any online writers) that don't put the publishing date on their articles and posts.

software revision pages that dont give dates for the updates

Good one - I can't stand this either  :Thmbsup: er,  :down:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 02, 2009, 10:45 AM
Twitter. :P

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 02, 2009, 12:12 PM
Telephone based services where, upon connection, an automated system collects ALL details -- account #s, name, address, phone etc. -- and then connects you (after a  little phone-pad fandango) to a human who proceeds to ask you for account #s, name, address, phone etc.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 02, 2009, 12:18 PM
People who break their air conditioner while working on book cases for the plethora of books they save....oh wait....that's mousey
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 02, 2009, 12:21 PM
Don't know how I forgot about this:    Facebook!   :o

I signed up on Facebook last year when a small number of DC members thought it would be a good idea to join and create our own software group. But no one ever actually went any further with, AFAICT.

Then late last year my dear, lovely, non-techie wife - for whom I purchased her own PC with high expectation, only to see her use it exclusively for PC games - decided to join Facebook at the behest of a friend. And now she lives Facebook. From the moment she arrives home she is logged into Facebook, pounding away on her keyboard. When she arises in the morning she immediately signs in to check her "wall". If she wakes up through the night to visit the bathroom, she stops in the office and, well, you guessed it.  :-\

Actually it's better than just using the machine for nothing but games, I guess. Except now I receive a constant barrage of notification emails from Facebook, which by now has my entire extended family on it. The messages are requests from family members to join any or all of the rancid, junk ad-generated clubs/groups/IQ Tests, etc., etc., etc. This has more than doubled my daily ration of regular spam; Facebook is really a giant spam generator, nothing more. I actually am pleased now when I receive a good old Viagra or "get a bigger body part" solicitation - it's not from Facebook!  :P

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 02, 2009, 12:24 PM
Telephone based services where, upon connection, an automated system collects ALL details -- account #s, name, address, phone etc. -- and then connects you (after a  little phone-pad fandango) to a human who proceeds to ask you for account #s, name, address, phone etc.
-cranioscopical (June 02, 2009, 12:12 PM)

This reminded me...

I did a little research and a lot of esoteric calculations last year and found that approximately 2.6 million employees of large corporations now know my mother's maiden name, the high school I attended along with its location, and my first pet's name. Any can easily be me with a couple of clicks.   :tellme: :o

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 02, 2009, 12:32 PM
i've just remembered something that really does annoy me:

bloggers (well, any online writers) that don't put the publishing date on their articles and posts.

they may believe their content to be so important that it's going to be valid until the end of time - personally, i'd like to know when it was created so i can put it into context with any other articles i may look at.

my blood is starting to boil just thinking about how inconsiderate it is to not bother including the date.

This one kills me, too!

Although I often see the month and the day, or worse, only the time, the year is always missing! I think it's the blogging software that's partially to blame, but you'd think the bloggers would fill us in on the rest. Now, I always check the date first. If it's missing, at least I know that in advance.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 02, 2009, 01:08 PM
Here's a fun one:
Bank fraud protection services, and the way they work.

If you try to make a large purchase with your card, & the bank denies you, at the register, because they suspect your credit card has been stolen. Not only do they decline that purchase, they freeze your card until you've called them and jumped through all their hoops, verifying your attempted purchase amount, the amount of your last deposit, etc. and even though they say you're clear after that, it can go on for days where you'll find yourself getting declined, calling the bank, verifying yourself, etc., etc.

All this with a so-called $3,000 per day spending limit, and $1,000 overdraft protection!

This is embarrassing, frustrating, & depending on what you're trying to buy, infuriating.

Last time this happened to me, I was at the pharmacy. My insurance has me pay 100% due upfront for prescriptions, so my transactions can be large. With more than enough money in the bank to cover the purchase, and no pending transactions, I got declined because of this stupidity.

I'm not really going to suffer if I have to wait until the bank opens to get my prescriptions, but OMFG someone else might! What if I were diabetic or something, or very elderly, and it was Saturday afternoon? One month the transaction goes through, the next month it doesn't...that's crazy!

Annoying to me, but for others, it could be life-threatening. Sadly, I think someone's going to have to die & banks are going to have to get sued before this changes.



Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on June 02, 2009, 05:53 PM
J-Mac: sounds like you need to start blocking applications (and for some of the worst offenders, all application requests from those persons), edit your privacy settings, etc :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 02, 2009, 06:36 PM
OK - totally, TOTALLY, agree with this:

Telephone based services where, upon connection, an automated system collects ALL details -- account #s, name, address, phone etc. -- and then connects you (after a  little phone-pad fandango) to a human who proceeds to ask you for account #s, name, address, phone etc.
-cranioscopical (June 02, 2009, 12:12 PM)

and this:

Don't know how I forgot about this:    Facebook!   :o

I signed up on Facebook last year when a small number of DC members thought it would be a good idea to join and create our own software group. But no one ever actually went any further with, AFAICT.

Hear, hear (or is it "here, here". Crap. Trying to figure that out bugs me as well. And don't even get me started on my shoes - only had 'em three weeks and the heels are worn right through...).
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Grorgy on June 02, 2009, 06:50 PM
Even worse than being asked again all the questions you've just answered by typing them in on a phone (old klutz fingers here hates using phones for that) is getting a recorded message saying they are not there anyway!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 07:13 PM
As a professional businessman, I would have to say regulations that make no sense and only burden us with unnecessary forms and filing dates.

Specifically, as a Trucker, it would have to be the Federal Motor Carriers Safety Administration and their inane lack of understanding concerning HOS (Hours of Service) they foist on us.  >:(

Since most of you do not know what I am talking about, the HOS state that a driver in the USA may...
I actually do not mind the last bullet.  After 11 hours behind the wheel dodging speed bumps, er, cars I am ready to shut down. :)

The thing the HOS does not take into account is...
Sound confusing and nonsensical?  Well, welcome to the life of a Professional Truck Driver. ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 02, 2009, 07:52 PM
Even worse than being asked again all the questions you've just answered by typing them in on a phone (old klutz fingers here hates using phones for that) is getting a recorded message saying they are not there anyway!

You get a message? Lucky devil!

I get 25 minutes of the worst canned 'music' known to man, periodically interrupted by a recorded voice telling me that my call is really important to them, the proof of which comes with the dial tone that follows.  Go to step A.

the heels are worn right through
-Darwin
Leaving you with but a sole source of support?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 02, 2009, 10:33 PM
-cranioscopical (June 02, 2009, 07:52 PM)
Leaving you with but a sole source of support?
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Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CodeTRUCKER on June 03, 2009, 01:29 AM
the heels are worn right through
-Darwin
Leaving you with but a sole source of support?
-cranioscopical (June 02, 2009, 07:52 PM)

The ambiguity is delicious!  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 03, 2009, 10:39 AM
MS Flight Simulator X and other software like it that assume that you are pirates so much their software is incompatible with you having CD Imaging Software on your system.

For a long time, my son's DVD drive didn't work, so I was taking his games and using VirtualDrive to image them so that he could mount them and play them.  He plays mostly older games, so it didn't really matter.  Enter Flight Simulator.  I couldn't copy it, so broke down and took a DVD drive out of a non-working case and installed it in his system.  He installs- the first DVD installs perfectly, but the second one won't mount (I guess it's the play disc).  No matter what, or how many installs, we get errors- even a blue screen!  I look it up online, and on several sites, including the MS site, there is an indication that if you have *any* imaging software (Nero, etc) installed, it won't install!  :tellme:

How far will DRM go to inconvenience their paying customers!  :mad:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on June 03, 2009, 11:13 AM
wraith808: cases like that suck. The pirates get a much smoother ride than normal paying customers.

Took me 2 hours getting Battlefield 2142 working... and unfortunately, that's one of the cases where you can't apply a crack for that nice customer satisfaction, since most servers require the crappy PunkBuster über-validating service in order to let you play. Why bother with copy protection on a game that requires a valid cd-key in order to play online, anyway? It's so D-U-M-B! >_<
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: bob99 on June 03, 2009, 02:27 PM
wraith808: cases like that suck. The pirates get a much smoother ride than normal paying customers.
The pirates play with the innocent until proven guilty card.

How far will DRM go to inconvenience their paying customers!
DRM uses the guilty no matter what card, even if you can prove you are innocent!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 03, 2009, 06:15 PM
Vista annoyances:

When I download files & Windows asks me where I want to save the files, then other times it doesn't ask me at all. Were it not for FF download manager, I don't know what I'd do, because sometimes they end up in Downloads, & other times they don't. I save downloads to specific places on my drive so I can find them when I need them. Grrr...

When it does ask me where I want to save it, and I have to type the path in myself...but other times I don't: Autofill takes care of it with just a couple of keystrokes. Inconsistency annoys me.

Downloading, installing, & keep track of a thousand little utilities just to make your computer manageable. Well, this ones a combo - I guess I'm lucky these utilities are made in the first place. It's just that I usually roll my eyes when I find that I can't work this magic somewhere in Windows options.

I think those are all the gripes I have for today, thank you for listening... :D



Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 03, 2009, 06:22 PM
Restaurants which offer discounts, 5$ off, for filling out a survey and then say you have to visit in XX number of days. If I take the time to fill out your survey, give me the coupon and let me decide when I want to go!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 03, 2009, 06:24 PM
Grownups saying "Woo Hoo!!!!"


 ;D ;D ;D
I missed this one...this never annoys me, though. I just get really embarrassed for them.  :-[
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 03, 2009, 06:48 PM
(Sorry. Apparently, I'm not done yet, today)

Speaking of surveys, I get so annoyed with corporations that hire online survey companies.
I'm not a public beta tester, and unless I know you really well, I'm probably not going to work for you for free.
Do like your predecessors did back in the day, and implement an R & D department.

As for the lame survey companies tyring to recruit the hapless consumer:
Do not insult me. The 1 in 10,000 chance that I might earn 5 points to go towards the 50,000 needed to buy anything from you just doesn't cut it for me, and it shouldn't for anyone else. 20 minutes of my time is worth much more to me than a few meaningless points.

20 minutes. That's like, 2 "What annoys you to no end?" posts!  :D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on June 04, 2009, 01:06 AM
When I download files & Windows asks me where I want to save the files, then other times it doesn't ask me at all. Were it not for FF download manager, I don't know what I'd do, because sometimes they end up in Downloads, & other times they don't. I save downloads to specific places on my drive so I can find them when I need them. Grrr...
Your problems sounds a lot more like FireFox than Vista issues to me?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 04, 2009, 09:16 AM
I think this was mentioned already but....Review sites which post review articles in multiple pages without a central navigation system requiring you to click next on every page. I HATE THIS! I will boycott any site that uses this method!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on June 04, 2009, 09:28 AM
Grownups saying "Woo Hoo!!!!"


 ;D ;D ;D
I missed this one...this never annoys me, though. I just get really embarrassed for them.  :-[

hey!!
I say that occasionally - okay, I do it a bit tongue in cheek but it's fun too.
I'll remember to let ye know when to be emabarrased and annoyed :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: merkin on June 04, 2009, 09:45 AM
Parents who let their kids stand in shopping trolleys.
I have to put my FOOD in there!


Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on June 05, 2009, 02:10 AM
Grownups saying "Woo Hoo!!!!"


 ;D ;D ;D
I missed this one...this never annoys me, though. I just get really embarrassed for them.  :-[

hey!!
I say that occasionally - okay, I do it a bit tongue in cheek but it's fun too.
I'll remember to let ye know when to be emabarrased and annoyed :P

Me too - and I make no apologies! ;) I picked it up from watching Sabrina...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 05, 2009, 11:31 AM
Grownups saying "Woo Hoo!!!!"


 ;D ;D ;D
I missed this one...this never annoys me, though. I just get really embarrassed for them.  :-[

hey!!
I say that occasionally - okay, I do it a bit tongue in cheek but it's fun too.
I'll remember to let ye know when to be emabarrased and annoyed :P

Me too - and I make no apologies! ;) I picked it up from watching Sabrina...

My GF has done that since she was a kid. Back then, it was traditional around where I live to yell Woo-Hoo!! when a fellow barn-mate won a ribbon at a horse show. That's how she got started. (And yes, I still cringe every time she does it.)

Question: Does it still count as annoying if she didn't start doing it as an adult? ;D

---

P.S. She has since informed me that if I promise to stop saying w00t! she'll stop saying Woo-Hoo!!! - unless, of course, she feels like saying: Woo-Hoo!!! - in which case, I'll just have to deal with it.


Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mwb1100 on June 05, 2009, 11:47 AM
My GF has done that since she was a kid. Back then, it was traditional around where I live to yell Woo-Hoo!! when a fellow barn-mate won a ribbon at a horse show. That's how she got started. (And yes, I still cringe every time she does it.)

Question: Does it still count as annoying if she didn't start doing it as an adult? ;D

I think cowboys and cowgirls get a pass.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 05, 2009, 12:00 PM
My GF has done that since she was a kid. Back then, it was traditional around where I live to yell Woo-Hoo!! when a fellow barn-mate won a ribbon at a horse show. That's how she got started. (And yes, I still cringe every time she does it.)

Question: Does it still count as annoying if she didn't start doing it as an adult? ;D

Actually, it's probably not annoying if it rolls off her tongue, naturally.
For me, it's mostly the facial expression that makes me cringe.
She can probably say it without looking insane, and like her eyes are about to pop out of her head.

P.S. She has since informed me that if I promise to stop saying w00t! she'll stop saying Woo-Hoo!!! (unless of course she feels like saying Woo-Hoo!!! - in which case I'll just have to deal with it.)

Yep, sounds fair to me :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 06, 2009, 02:07 PM
Mandatory gratuity in ANY FORM. If you want me to come to your restaurant, do not charge me a fee that goes to the waiter/waitress. If I want to tip them, read "If they deserve it", they will get one from me. I should not have to tell the waiter/waitress/manager that I want the fee removed. Gratuity is just that, GRATUITY. It is not mandatory and I hate places which add this at certain given occasions.

I never did understand the idea anyway, paying someone to do their job they are being paid to do anyways. I do tip, but mandatory tips disgust me!

This is a poorly written post, I realize that, I just had to run inside and add it before I forgot. Now, back to cutting down the ugly trees in our back yard.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 06, 2009, 11:19 PM
I should not have to tell the waiter/waitress/manager that I want the fee removed.

I agree with you, that mandatory tipping in intrusive and offensive. However, disputing this with a food server is usually ineffective. It's like complaining to a McDonald's employee that you don't like their corporate policies. Going to management to resolve your issues is usually your best bet.

For many food servers (especially the most skilled ones), mandatory tip policies are an embarrassment. Any waiter or waitress that takes any pride in their work understands what a gratuity is, and does not want it forced out of you. It takes from you the pleasure of showing your appreciation by leaving a tip, and it takes from them any idea of how satisfied you were with the service they've given you.

Along with the initial embarrassment of receiving a mandatory tip, complaints made to the server, especially if made in the presence of your guests, only add insult to injury.

Additionally, for food servers, timing is everything. Servers have a plan, a rhythm, which allows them to gracefully juggle many different tasks at once. This is their skill. Imagine if you couldn't serve the hungry, impatient customers that were staring you down, because you were dealing with a complaint you weren't even in the position to address. In my experience, this event usually has the same effect on most servers: one pissed off customer (oh, sinking stomach) and 5 minutes being held up unexpectedly keeps them off kilter all night.

I never did understand the idea anyway, paying someone to do their job they are being paid to do anyways...

Well, I and many other servers have wished that we could make the same money from our employers, and that tipping be done away with, altogether. But, that's the food service industry, at least in the US.
Food servers are getting paid to do their job, yes. Minimum wage. No pity: customers know this, and contribute to a service person's income tenfold, to make up for the wages their employers pay them.  They appreciate good service and (regulars) understand that they themselves contribute to that service by contributing to their servers' livelyhood. That said, anyone who objects to this practice should never leave tips. Waiting tables in general is decent, respectable hard work for good money, & you'll often find a great deal of pride in the the hearts of the best waiters and waitress that exist. But most servers, skilled or not, have their pride and would sooner miss a meal than accept a tip left in disdain, and no one customer who chooses not to tip is going to bring any great harm to anyone. BTW, let's not forget the others who are making minimum wage + tips: The people that shine our shoes on demand, deliver our pizzas, clean our homes, detail our cars, cut our hair, give us manicures & pedicures, walk our dogs, etc., etc.
Do you have the same belief for these people, or is it just food servers?

As a side note, it's an honor for me to have been able to serve others, and as long as my customers were OK with tipping, I was, too, most of the time. The few times that I've felt like a beggar (thanks, Mom!(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/1st.GIF)) have only pushed me to refine my skills, so I could give even better service, and therefore feel completely worth their gratuity.  :D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 07, 2009, 08:25 AM
SKesselman

I fully understand that most food servers are not paid a decent wage. That is a problem which all food servers should address. It is the same a teacher or law enforcement officer or paramedic. All do a job which is worth far more than they are paid. The three latter I mentioned deserve 3 fold their current pay (Most police officers anyways, the ones who care about their job). Please understand that I do not totally object to the idea of tipping, but when it is used to make a food service employees wage livable, I do disagree with that. It should not be the customers responsibility to ensure that someone who visits me four times during a meal gets paid decently. Tipping should be in addition to not required for someone to live comfortably. I understand the difficulty that comes with the job. My brother was a waiter for about a year and explained to me the eccentricities that were involved. It is there that I feel the employee should request more. If more of these employees asked for more, they would surely not have to rely on tips to "Make ends meet".

My belief is for tipping in general. Tipping should not be an excuse for an employer to pay their employees poorly. Do you know how many times I have tipped my car detailer (Fort Meade Auto Spa) for doing a great job? Yes, the service cost me 100 dollars, but I gladly pay them a bit more for a job well done.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 07, 2009, 09:45 AM
What annoys me is subscription-ware. Programs that can only be registered in time-measured ways like anti-virus software. Other types of programs use the payment model, but AV is the most prevalent.

I absolutely hate to see the days of my subscription tick down till there's nothing left. And if I go out of town on vacation for a week? OMG! That's 7-9 days down the drain where I didn't get to reap the benefits of said program and it feels like money wasted.

This annoyance is why I registered Newsbin Pro rather than Newsleecher. It's also why I made sure I registered AnyDVD before they raised the prices and went to a more subscription-oriented pricing scheme. You can still get a lifetime update scheme from Slysoft, but oh man, you pay royally through the nose now for the privilege.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 07, 2009, 10:17 AM
Subscription-ware is different than pay per version, I hope anyways. Subscriptions do annoy me. Paying for upgrades does not so much because you are alerted to this on most websites.

Trillian offers the subscription method which, in my opinion, is STUPID for an instant messenger program. antiviruses make sense and I think ESET got it right in that they provide a/v definitions AND program updates through their subscription.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 07, 2009, 11:32 AM
NPR & PBS Fundraisers. :down:

Look, I know they depend on contributions. (And I do contribute BTW.) But these constant "mini-drives" and program "hostage-taking" tactics are just flat-out infuriating. Especially when a segment isn't getting the numbers they're looking for and the announcers start getting a little confrontational with their tone and their comments.

And it's especially annoying to listen to yet another fundraiser (in February, March, and June!!!) when you already contributed during what was called the "annual drive" back in January.

I know a bunch of people who have since stopped supporting NPR and PBS because they got sick and tired of the constant begging and program disruptions.

I long for the good old days when they did a single (month-long) annual fundraiser. :Thmbsup:

Just my 2¢



Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 07, 2009, 01:45 PM
Josh, I have no problem paying per version, but having my time ticked off on a calendar before a program shuts down chaps my cheeks. :)

PBS is in trouble. Back in the days before cable they filled a niche, but their niche has been over-run by the Discovery & History Channels and others like them. NPR stopped being relevant when all of their broadcasting was overcast with a "We're going to teach you the right things to think in order to be a 'properly' enlightened person."

I haven't listened to NPR in years...and haven't watched PBS in *decades*.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 07, 2009, 02:23 PM
But does your program really stop working after that time? Most of what I have seen is that the program stops receiving whatever the subscription gets you but it works still.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 07, 2009, 02:24 PM
PBS is in trouble. Back in the days before cable they filled a niche, but their niche has been over-run by the Discovery & History Channels and others like them. NPR stopped being relevant when all of their broadcasting was overcast with a "We're going to teach you the right things to think in order to be a 'properly' enlightened person."

I haven't listened to NPR in years...and haven't watched PBS in *decades*.

Actually, I think they're in trouble more beause they abandoned their high quality and standards in order to become what they believed would be "more appealing to a younger audience." Not only did that attitude alienate their old viewers, it also insulted their so-called younger audience by implying they were either too stupid or immature to appreciate and understand the original goals of public broadcasting.

As far as History and all the other edu-channels stealing PBS's thunder is concerned, I think that's just an excuse. The cable "smart channels" might have been a threat when they first came out. But not any more. There's as much (or more) pseudo-science (ghost hunting, crypto-zoology, UFO conspiracy theories, "ancient" prophesies, etc.) programs as there are real history and scientific shows. And while Top Gear may be a pretty cool show, I still wonder why my cable provider is running it on the Discovery Channel.

PBS's problem is that their shows are simply not as good as they used to be. Even such perennial favorites as Nova have become spotty at best. And with the exception of a few specials, most of the news "reporting" is about as in-depth as a CNN "Special Report." And the same goes for NPR.

BTW: I never got the impression NPR was ever  in the habit of telling you what to think. The only time I ever heard that advanced was as a "talking point" by the emerging neo-conservative movement back in the Regan Era, who succeeded in getting virtually all government support pulled from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for such "controversial and inflammatory" programs as Death of a Princess. But to each their own, I suppose. Some people see other people who ask difficult questions as a threat rather than an opportunity.
 :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 07, 2009, 06:02 PM
Josh, I know it will still work once the subscription runs out, but it still annoys me whether it's a rational annoyance or not.

40hz, I'll take your word for what you are saying, especially regarding PBS, but it seems like every time I am channel surfing (or more accurately surfing the program guide) any time I notice what's on PBS, it's almost always Lawrence Welk.  ;D   And on the off-chance they do have something on that I might be interested in watching I've already watched it months/years ago on a cable channel.

And as for NPR, they may have changed, but the last time I really tried listening to them they were going through some kind of Earth Day/Hippie phase. And that's what I meant by telling people what to think. Hopefully, they are over that by now. They are going to have a hard time surviving as things shift more towards satellite & internet radio. Heck, even regular broadcast radio is feeling the pinch of those and MP3s in general. Who wants to spend an hour listing to 35 minutes of music and 25 minutes of commercials? (Yay! Another annoyance for the thread!) More and more people are heading out to the car with their MP3 player full of songs and podcasts for their drive to work or around town.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tranglos on June 07, 2009, 06:05 PM
Okay now, let's see... Airlines, banks, the whole advertising industry, and


(Fair warning: Do not click the button lest you be annoyed yourself!)


Spoiler
right-wingers (all of them), centrists (a.k.a right-wingers in sheep's clothing), authoritarian leaders, authoritarian followers, multinational corporations, media conglomerates, middlemen, murderers, women-haters, wife-beaters, rapists, child molesters, bullies, homophobes, xenophobes, wars, warmongers, chickenhawks, anyone who owns a functioning firearm or whose job description involves handling one (unless responding to a direct physical threat also involving a firearm), the stock market, the apostles of the stock market (frauds all), workplace mobbing, fencing off land, pharma corps, fast food joints, privatization of water (what's next?), sweatshops, institutional churches, any and all secret and special services, the so-called "national security" and "national interest" (always the security and the interest of those in power only), state secrets (there should be none), predominantly but not exclusively, not necessarily in that order.


Nothing that shows up on my computer could ever begin to approach any of those.

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 07, 2009, 06:17 PM
Females, typically, who talk in a manner which results in the majority of their vocabulary being "Like, whatever, yeah". I HATE THAT! It just makes you sound stupider when you have to keep saying LIKE!!!!!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Grorgy on June 07, 2009, 06:45 PM
Ahh tranglos, good list, but misogynists could be added i think
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tranglos on June 07, 2009, 07:02 PM
Ahh tranglos, good list, but misogynists could be added i think

Oh, the list is totally open-ended :) You are right, of course.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on June 07, 2009, 07:52 PM
Females, typically, who talk in a manner which results in the majority of their vocabulary being "Like, whatever, yeah". I HATE THAT! It just makes you sound stupider when you have to keep saying LIKE!!!!!

Don't forget anyone who really thinks it's normal to say, "you know", at least 3 times in the one sentence, (or actually anywhere in the sentence if it's not required, you know).

People who keep trying to ram their side of things down your throat - state your case and then STFU so I can go back to ignoring you please  :P

@tranglos: A lot of your list could be summed up with the word "fanatic".

Post #444: A mighty fine calibre :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 07, 2009, 08:01 PM
4wd, betanews.com is popular for people like that. The ones who have to state the same thing in every review for every version knowing full well the product in review will not change.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 07, 2009, 08:58 PM
It just makes you sound stupider when you have to keep saying LIKE!!!!!

 :Thmbsup: too funnny...

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 07, 2009, 09:22 PM
4wd, betanews.com is popular for people like that. The ones who have to state the same thing in every review for every version knowing full well the product in review will not change.
-Josh

:: cough :: D.u.k.e.b.o.y.z :: cough ::
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 08, 2009, 05:48 AM
He is one of the many. There used to be a guy named httpd.confused on BN, however, he was driven off by the admins which remove posts based on a user complaint and not based on any actual merit. He was one of the more level headed posters and received flames for posting the truth about applications and not the "This application rocks" or "This application sucks" like everyone else. Betanews is definitely one of those sites which greatly annoys me. Fix your review system to include a moderation system before any review is posted. Half of the reviews there are flames against someone else and the rest are people doing just what DudeBoyz does. The site is quickly losing credibility.

There are two types of flames against people on BN, if you praise an app that others criticize you work for the company being praised. If you post negativity about an application, you get flamed for being a troll and you will get people trolling you and posting to other software in which you post to just to counter your review.

To prove my point:

http://www.betanews.com/profile/DudeBoyz

http://www.betanews.com/profile/catchpole

http://www.betanews.com/profile/PC_Tool

http://www.betanews.com/profile/diam0nd
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 08, 2009, 01:42 PM
I remember httpd.confused well. I had wondered what happened to him. While I didn't agree with everything he had to say I valued his opinions more than I did most on that site.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 08, 2009, 02:21 PM
http://www.betanews.com/profile/httpd.confused

Read his last review :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 11, 2009, 09:30 AM
That's a shame about his last review...but I still agree with what he said in it both regarding Firefox and regarding BetaNews.

BetaNews was a good idea that was allowed to spiral out of control.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 14, 2009, 06:41 PM
People who take their time doing something knowing full well that people are waiting to do whatever it is they are doing directly after. Be it using a pay phone, get food ordered, OR BUY A SLURPEE AND USE THE BOB FORSAKEN SLURPEE MACHINE!!!!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Ehtyar on June 14, 2009, 06:57 PM
When you DON'T GET NO FRIGGIN' ERROR MESSAGE (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927676)!!!

Ehtyar.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 14, 2009, 09:05 PM
People who think they know it all annoy those of us who do.  :D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on June 15, 2009, 01:01 AM
People who think they know it all annoy those of us who do.  :D

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 18, 2009, 06:56 AM
This guy! >:(

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(SCO's Darl McBride in case you're wondering.)

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 18, 2009, 12:01 PM
Chip + PIN
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on June 18, 2009, 12:06 PM
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People using SSL when browsing doco, giving https:// links in notify emails, giving the above :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 19, 2009, 08:52 AM
iPhone Evangelists. Especially since they've announced the 3GS!

(Yes it's cool, OK? Now will you shut up about it already!) ;D

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"Darling, could we please not talk about your iPhone tonight?"
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: sazzen on June 19, 2009, 05:19 PM
1.  That little ant (bug? tick? insect?) that Josh calls an avatar. I've tried to kill it three times.

2.  Those who correct, or just complain about, others' incorrect grammar. I have issues with commas, I know. Makes it scary to post anything. 

3. Taxes. 

4.  When I make a phone call that is answered by a recording that begins with a long list of #s to choose from, that correspond to the alternatives they offer, none of which ever meet my needs. Afraid they will hang up on me, because they have so many times before, I pick one only to be greeted by another long list of #s I can press, etc., etc., etc.  Of course, my very favorites are the ones that say, "Tell me . . . Say something like . . . "  I have never, not even once, been understood. It must be my California coast accent. These calls always end with a happy, pleasant voice saying, "Good-bye."  The voice is NOT mine.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mouser on June 19, 2009, 06:26 PM
40hz:  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D that t-shirt is great
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 19, 2009, 06:32 PM
2.  Those who correct, or just complain about, others' incorrect grammar. I have issues with commas, I know. Makes it scary to post anything. 
Who cares?????? If people aren't crying about one thing, then they're crying about another. Just post!

4.  When I make a phone call that is answered by a recording that begins with a long list of #s to choose from, that correspond to the alternatives they offer, none of which ever meet my needs. Afraid they will hang up on me, because they have so many times before, I pick one only to be greeted by another long list of #s I can press, etc., etc., etc.  Of course, my very favorites are the ones that say, "Tell me . . . Say something like . . . "  I have never, not even once, been understood. It must be my California coast accent. These calls always end with a happy, pleasant voice saying, "Good-bye."  The voice is NOT mine.

Try saying AGENT or OPERATOR or HELP at any time during these phone calls.
"Tell me . . . Say something like . . . " you don't happen to be talking about AT&T, do you? This is just too familiar.
In this case, you must speak loud, slow and with good enunciation in order for them to 'hear' you correctly.

Good luck :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: app103 on June 19, 2009, 06:52 PM
Companies that call you up just to put you on hold and then tell you that there are no available agents and to please call them back later.  :huh:

and people wonder why I hate phones?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 19, 2009, 09:08 PM
4.  When I make a phone call that is answered by a recording that begins with a long list of #s to choose from, that correspond to the alternatives they offer, none of which ever meet my needs.
-sazzen

Two more suggestions:

1. Hit 0 (zero) for an operator. That almost always works.

2. Don't make any selection. After repeating the voice menu a couple times some systems will assume you have a rotary phone and kick you to an operator.

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 19, 2009, 11:37 PM
40hz:  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D that t-shirt is great

Ain't it? Friend e-mailed the jpeg. Wish it were my design.  ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 19, 2009, 11:59 PM
1. Hit 0 (zero) for an operator. That almost always works.
If not, try to hit an operator for six.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 19, 2009, 11:59 PM
That little ant (bug? tick? insect?) that Josh calls an avatar. I've tried to kill it three times.

You're not alone.

I don't know if it would be fair to say it annoys everybody. (Josh does have his admirers. ;D) But quite a few of us have tried to kill that wretched little thing!

I'd like to introduce that bug to this turtle: ;D

<Edit: Image removed by 40hz. See Mouser's post and my reply below.>

<Edit2: At the suggestion of two people who e-mailed me: I've put back the original text line above the image since the brief discussion that followed won't make complete sense without it.>


Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on June 20, 2009, 01:35 AM
 :o They must be snapping turtles...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mouser on June 20, 2009, 06:49 AM
:( i know this is probably going to seem over sensitive, and it is a remarkable video in terms of animal behavior, but it's also pretty cruel to watch and something i'd rather not see embedded as an animation playing inside a post.. linking to it would be fine.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mahesh2k on June 20, 2009, 07:09 AM
 :D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on June 20, 2009, 09:50 AM
:( i know this is probably going to seem over sensitive, and it is a remarkable video in terms of animal behavior, but it's also pretty cruel to watch and something i'd rather not see embedded as an animation playing inside a post.. linking to it would be fine.

I tend to agree mouser!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 20, 2009, 11:44 AM
:( i know this is probably going to seem over sensitive, and it is a remarkable video in terms of animal behavior, but it's also pretty cruel to watch and something i'd rather not see embedded as an animation playing inside a post.. linking to it would be fine.

I tend to agree mouser!

I think it's more a difference in individual perception rather than excessive sensitivity on your part.

My GF and I are quite active in various wildlife and animal rescue organizations. Both of us saw the video as interesting, from an educational viewpoint, since it demonstrates an aspect of turtle behavior that many people would not expect. (Snapping turtles claim a fair number of waterfowl each year where we live.) Most people think of turtles as lumbering dull-witted creatures. Nothing could be further from the truth. In their native environment, most turtle species are fast, intelligent and fierce predators.

Despite the fact that hunting behaviors may see "cruel" (a term which isn't ever appropriate when commenting on animal behaviors since the practice of cruelty is an exclusively human phenomenon) they are also part of the the natural order found in our ecosystem. And much as I personally hate to see ducklings occasionally 'disappear' while they out swimming on the river not too far from our house, I must also acknowledge that hunting turtles help balance the duck population. And despite the fact that turtles are neither cuddly nor cute, I must also acknowledge they have an equal claim to survival and the right to exist.

Either way, the clip has apparently upset some people at DoCo. And although it was not my intent to offend anyone, apparently I have. For that, I apologize.

Clip and link have both been removed. My feeling was that if the subject matter was inappropriate because it could upset someone, it didn't really matter whether it was immediately visible or not. Including the link wouldn't have removed that possibility - so I thought it best to make both go away.

---

(Note: the clip in question showed a medium-sized turtle unexpectedly grab a pidgeon-sized bird and haul it into the water. There was no blood or gore such as you'll find on NatGeo or Animal Planet. The bird disappears with the turtle underwater, and that's the end of it.)

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mouser on June 20, 2009, 11:57 AM
i agree with everything you say about it being interesting from an educational perspective, and i think linking to it would be cool -- it really was amazing to watch.

something just rubbed me the wrong way about seeing it looping over and over again here as if it was a comedy blooper to laugh about.  i mean hey it's nature, and nature can be cruel and fascinating.  i just don't get an "LOL" feeling about watching a bird get dragged under water to die.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 20, 2009, 03:03 PM
I was not offended by the clip, but I'm glad it was removed as it might be a catalyst for unwanted situations/conversations if one were to have that up on their screen and a small child wandered by and was wondering what the grown-up was reading.

Anyway, carry on...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 20, 2009, 03:26 PM
i just don't get an "LOL" feeling about watching a bird get dragged under water to die.
It's a matter of perspective. I felt sorry for that poor turtle, kidnapped by a bird and forced to act as its personal submarine. Time to call the ASPCT!   ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 20, 2009, 03:31 PM
Now that mouser has successfully derailed and hijacked this thread....How about a new entry:

People who fail to merge when the come off an exit and wait until just before the exit lane forces them to merge. MERGE ALREADY!!!! I am not flashing my hi-beams at you to tell you to go slower!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 20, 2009, 05:49 PM
Aagghh!
I get so annoyed when:

People people get sloppy with mail subject lines, and type things in that don't reflect the actual conversation.
It's so nice to see the rare email conversation which is actually about the subject line.
When you look in your folders, everything's all neat and orderly.
That's how it was when I worked at IBM:
Subject: "Thinkpad S/N 12345ABCDE still in repair?" Now, that's an email that makes sense!

It makes it so hard to find anything!

And, I really don't care for having to depend on a global search to find something for me.
I know, I know...people rave about the ease and speed of global searches, but I want to be able to find things by myself, thank you,
in case something is making Outlook really slow unable to open (like, for instance, now).
And I know I'm asking the wrong crowd, but please, don't say it (well, maybe it's this, maybe it's that...) I need to be able to find my stuff without playing amateur techie all day!
And yes, I can find it on gmail in a global search (and did, a few days ago, while Outlook lagged), I'm not totally against it when it's practical - it's incredibly fast - but what if I have no connection?

I used to use only a certain email program that I knew would allow the user to change the actual email received, subject and body, until I found out Outlook did, too.  I was always editing subjects and content as well to make them consice and orderly  :D.
I guess I could still do that now in Outlook, perhaps I will.

Thanks Josh, this thread is fun... ;)

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 20, 2009, 05:55 PM
I can't believe I didn't post this before, but I get seriously annoyed when I'm trying to type, and I"m making the same mistakes over and over and over...
It makes me feel like I cant learn or something.  :-\

I hate that. I know there are spell checkers, but I like to know that I can type fluently by myself.

And, I hate to see the words on the screen wrong in the same places so many times.  >:(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 20, 2009, 11:10 PM
Warning:   Gross-osity ahead - - - -

Remember when someone got sick on TV? I don't mean for real, but as part of a show? They usually got a sick, "Uh-oh" look, turned and ran either off-camera or at least further away from the camera, and then bent over a trash can or similar container. That was it. You got the message, right?

Then they got a little more aggressive, and started including sound effects - loud, raucous sound effects. Soon they added off-angle viewing of the actual vomiting. Nothing too close... Just a view from the side/rear, letting you see just a bit of something spewing.

And finally, here we are today, and it seems like every damn TV show insists on showing us full frontal-view, up close, personal, and totally gross vomiting. Today you won't see a vomit scene without yellowish liquid shooting out of their oral cavity. Loud, tortuous retching usually accompanies the up-close vomiting. Even shows that are not known at all for shock value or cheap tricks seem to be showing a lot of vomiting nowadays. Why? Where is the data collected by advertisers/marketing geniuses that says the more frequently you display close-up, real-looking vomit - happening-as-you-watch!! - along with the most gut-wrenching retching sounds somehow increases the shows' ratings? I need to see that data! (They must be keeping it filed away with the data that indicates viewers will definitely purchase more of their products if they crank the volume up to an ear-splitting level! But that's fodder for another post.)

Anyway, that's my chief annoyance for today, having just seen three - count 'em - three TV shows where much vomiting was had!   :o

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 21, 2009, 12:57 AM
J-mac, this post is just great. I hope someone who does the data collecting you mentioned sees this.

Thankfully, my TV's broken, because I'm a certified, straight up emetophobe. Last time I witnessed it, I blacked out.
And, if I ever hit one of those self starting videos online with something like that, I don't know what I'll do.

THREE shows in one day? What shows were they? That is RUDE!

This world is becoming desensitized, & I think this horrific vomiting scene trend proves it. People are needing scenes like this to satisfy their perverse hunger for more and more super-stimulating and bizarre entertainment. Perhaps these people need to take up racecar driving or skydiving or some adrenalin-inducing hobby like that.

The sad truth is: They wouldn't be showing it if people weren't watching it. Gross.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nosh on June 21, 2009, 02:10 AM
I remember watching a video at a friend's place years back - some dumb comedy. In one scene these kids take a roller coaster ride and start 'projectile vomiting'. The friend's mother (IRL) walked in just then. There was the two of them laughing so hard they were nearly on the floor and then there was me with a sheepish WTF grin. I just didn't get it.

I watched Monty Python's The Meaning of Life years later and saw the seminal 'masterpiece' with the obese man at the restaurant (which probably inspired a whole bunch of 'projectile vomiting' scenes in years to come). It still is the grossest, most disgusting scene I've seen in mainstream cinema. But it was SO over the top, it actually made me laugh. Go figure!

"The Meaning Of Life - The Autumn Years" on YouTube (I'm not linking!  :P)
 
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on June 21, 2009, 02:21 AM
J-Mac - I agree 100% and so does my Mum! It's not necessary...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on June 21, 2009, 04:05 AM
J-Mac - I agree 100% and so does my Mum! It's not necessary...

Surely it depends on the context?

eg. The Exorcist - Yes, it was split pea soup but was an integral part of the movie.
     Team America: World Police - So over the top that no one could actually think it was gross, (although I'm not sure whether to class this film as an actual documentary or not (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/hiding.gif) ).
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 21, 2009, 09:48 AM
Team America: World Police - So over the top that no one could actually think it was gross, (although I'm not sure whether to class this film as an actual documentary or not (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/hiding.gif) ).

Don't get too rone-ree under that chair, 4wd... you might break into song!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on June 21, 2009, 10:12 AM
Awww, couldn't you at least have kept the link to the snapping-turtle-duck-eating video? I found it pretty amazing - didn't know turtles could do this. In the "wow, wtf" not "LULZ!" way, though.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 21, 2009, 11:18 AM
Awww, couldn't you at least have kept the link to the snapping-turtle-duck-eating video? I found it pretty amazing - didn't know turtles could do this. In the "wow, wtf" not "LULZ!" way, though.

Nope. Mouser didn't like it. For me, that was sufficient reason to just 86 the whole thing.

It's easy enough to find on YouTube if anyone's that interested.

(BTW: I also didn't think of it as LoL. More like ZOMG! I probably shouldn't have included the smiley. I meant it to imply "just kidding" rather than "ha-ha". I probably should have said icbiwoop!!! instead. Oh well.  "So it goes..." )



Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 21, 2009, 11:32 AM
Trying to load a site, and the advertising server makes the site take forever to respond.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on June 21, 2009, 06:45 PM
Trying to load a site, and the advertising server makes the site take forever to respond.

Plus those sites that use Google Analytics but in such a way that you can't use any button unless you allow it because you've blocked it in, eg. NoScript.

Not to mention idiots who think it's OK to have a website that's nothing but one big Flash animation or uses nothing but Flash because the designer was too stupid to realise there are people who don't want to, (or can't), use Flash crap.

Especially when it's a commercial site.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 21, 2009, 07:16 PM
People who own Joe dirt on DVD, or in any medium for that matter.

People who tell me that a bridge/switch is layer 3. ITS NOT PEOPLE!!!! COME ONE!!! ROUTERS ARE LAYER 3, NOT SWITCHES

unless they are layer 3 switches....but those don't count.....
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Target on June 22, 2009, 12:59 AM
web pages that don't print, ie you get nothing at all, or maybe the top most frame - GAAAAAGH!!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on June 22, 2009, 01:23 AM
Surely it depends on the context?

eg. The Exorcist - Yes, it was split pea soup but was an integral part of the movie.

Wouldn't watch that sort of movie if u paid me!  :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 22, 2009, 02:28 AM
Surely it depends on the context?

eg. The Exorcist - Yes, it was split pea soup but was an integral part of the movie.

Wouldn't watch that sort of movie if u paid me!  :)

I wish I'd have had that much sense when the opportunity arose; but I was only 12.
I have never, ever been so scared in all my life, not by something that couldn't look me right in the eye. It scared me every night for a few good years afterwards, too.
It was so bad that the split pea soup scene didn't even faze me; it was an unbelievably horrifying movie, yet today kids clearly aren't bothered by it at all.
Very strange.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on June 22, 2009, 09:08 AM
No conscience! ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 22, 2009, 09:32 AM
You know, people might be desensitized to movie violence and gore however, after attending a training course, I have learned that seeing it on screen and handling it in real life are two totally different things. I thought I was pretty well de-sensitized to the gore of blood, but seeing and working with it in real life are two things which do not even compare.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 22, 2009, 11:05 AM
U.S. doctors!!!
*Doctors who won't explain anything to you.
*Doctors who insist on blowing through a list of routine questions, but who don't give the patient time to ask any questions.
*Doctors who make patients live for weeks, or months with conditions that they wouldn't tolerate for a week.
*Doctors who are about to retire. Just do it, already. Go play a round of golf. Let someone young, with perhaps some interest in their job take over!!!
*Dermatologists (one after the other) who act like beauticians, not scientists - whose only interest is to sell expensive beauty treatments, while they send patients with real problems out the door with the same tired old prescriptions, day after day, year after year. (If you're not going to take any interest in actual skin conditions, take it off your list of services!!!!)
*Doctors who won't  prescribe a patient anything to make flying easier, because, "it's just too addictive". Come on!!!! Besides the fact that I don't have a history with this "substance", a person taking one Klonapin for a 5 hour flight and one on the way home maketh NOT a candidate for rehab!!
*Doctors who won't write prescriptions that could take patients out of pain, making them pay for the misdeeds of others.
*Doctors who say, "See you in 2 weeks/one month/two months. Bye, now!" but who won't talk to you sooner if your treatment makes something worse or doesn't work at all.



Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 22, 2009, 12:50 PM
Maybe it's time to change doctors?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 22, 2009, 12:54 PM
People named wraith....oh wait, nevermind....I was thinking of the horrible movie starring Charlie Sheen
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 22, 2009, 02:55 PM
Maybe it's time to change doctors?

You know, I didn't even think of that!
Thanks! :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 22, 2009, 02:59 PM
J-Mac - I agree 100% and so does my Mum! It's not necessary...

Surely it depends on the context?

eg. The Exorcist - Yes, it was split pea soup but was an integral part of the movie.
     Team America: World Police - So over the top that no one could actually think it was gross, (although I'm not sure whether to class this film as an actual documentary or not (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/hiding.gif) ).

Of course it does - but I was referring specifically to TV shows. Regular, prime-time, standard broadcast network shows. You know, NCIS (which I love!), Criminal Minds, The Unit, etc., etc.  Not movies.

Of course we'll probably see this added to that confusing logo at the start of most shows, telling us the show has adult content, coarse language, mild violence (always wondered what the hell that was!), and so on...   :tellme:

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Whereismyangel on June 23, 2009, 05:10 AM
U.S. doctors!!!

...move to France !  ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on June 23, 2009, 06:51 AM
Of course it does - but I was referring specifically to TV shows. Regular, prime-time, standard broadcast network shows. You know, NCIS (which I love!), Criminal Minds, The Unit, etc., etc.  Not movies.

Ah well, if it's not Dr Who, Torchwood or the WRC I don't watch TV since it's full of nothing else except police shows, cooking shows, talk-back TV (ie. Oprah and her ilk), canned sitcoms or sh!tty "reality" programs.

I guess I can put down TV in general as a major annoyance, especially since the TV programmers in this country are incapable of reading a clock to know when their freakin' programs should stop and start.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 23, 2009, 10:20 AM
Maybe it's time to change doctors?

You know, I didn't even think of that!
Thanks! :Thmbsup:

Just in case- I wasn't trying to be snarky.  I just wouldn't take the stuff you said from any doctor.  I find your attitude is very important in maintaining your health, or recovering from illness.  My doctor doesn't need to treat me like I have an MD- that's why I go to him.  But I do expect him not to talk down to me, and not give me any BS answers.  And he does just that.  If he doesn't know, he tells me.  If he does, he tells me so that I can understand what he's saying.  So when I go to him, I get the feeling that we're working together to maintain my health.  And it seems to make a difference, at least from my perspective.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 24, 2009, 09:10 AM
Speaking of TV, two issues:

1) If you are going to name your channel something descriptive of the type of programming you show then by George, stick to the description of your charter! Example number one, the American Movie Classics channel. What used to be a wonderful glimpse into the best of movie-making over the years has turned into a programming schedule that's at 50% crap. If I'm browsing your show line-up, AMC, and my on-screen programming guide is showing me that all of the evening's movies are rated at one (!!!) or two stars, you need to fire your programming director!

My second example is an easy pot shot....a channel specializing in science-fiction has no gosh-darned business airing programming consisting of reality shows and professional wrestling!

2) Annoyance number two is something that cropped up in the last 6-12 months. Apparently Sony made a deal to buy 'something' that gave them ownership of a lot of syndicated TV shows. Now every episode of every one of those shows has a trailing Sony logo at the very end of them implying a, "Hey! We made this!" even though the show quit production months/years/decades before Sony ever bought the intellectual property.

Sub-annoyance of the one above....sometimes you'll watch a syndicated show and you'll have up to 8 (!!!) of those little trailing logos after the show ends!

Oh, and while I'm here: Annoyance Bonus Round! Movies and TV shows sometimes have little clever things that are shown during or after the ending credits. Sometimes I just want to see who played what part. Good luck being able to enjoy any ending credits on TV anymore! The ending show is squished down to an out-of-proportion sliver of the screen while the next bit of programming is given the majority of the screen also out-of-proportion!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 24, 2009, 01:01 PM
On the subject of TV:  all those little pop-up characters that appear on the bottom of the screen, hyping some upcoming show. I always 'love it' when I'm watching something - and a tiny (but very distracting!) character walks across the screen doing something. SciFi, Animal Planet, and some of the Discovery variants are the chief offenders when it comes to this.

(BTW: thank you SciFi Channel for coming up with the idea of superimposing a station logo on the lower-right corner of everything you broadcast! Guess you deserve the credit for starting that practice.)

Also when movie credits get scrunched onto half a screen so an advert can run on the other half - or - when credits get fast-rolled so quickly that they can't be read. I'm "one of those people" who happens to like reading the film credits.

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Stoic Joker on June 24, 2009, 01:23 PM
My second example is an easy pot shot....a channel specializing in science-fiction has no gosh-darned business airing programming consisting of reality shows and professional wrestling!
Damn Straight! ...That ones been bugging the hell outa me since it started.

Another TV habit of late is the Channel logos overlaid on the screen during the show are not only getting bigger but are displaying advertising for all sorts of nonsense. It's bad enough that the 1hr time slot contains 20min of commercials...now they gota run the damn ads during the show too (good luck reading any captions, they're covered).

Cripes! ...We pay good money for entertainment ... not to be bombarded with advertising! <...or so I thought...)


lol ...Looks like 40Hz beat me to the punch!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 24, 2009, 01:29 PM
My second example is an easy pot shot....a channel specializing in science-fiction has no gosh-darned business airing programming consisting of reality shows and professional wrestling!
Damn Straight! ...That ones been bugging the hell outa me since it started.

Another TV habit of late is the Channel logos overlaid on the screen during the show are not only getting bigger but are displaying advertising for all sorts of nonsense. It's bad enough that the 1hr time slot contains 20min of commercials...now they gota run the damn ads during the show too (good luck reading any captions, they're covered).

Cripes! ...We pay good money for entertainment ... not to be bombarded with advertising! <...or so I thought...)


lol ...Looks like 40Hz beat me to the punch!

You know why, don't you? Can't fast forward through the on-screen ads if you record the shows. The bastards!

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 24, 2009, 01:37 PM
My second example is an easy pot shot....a channel specializing in science-fiction has no gosh-darned business airing programming consisting of reality shows and professional wrestling!
Damn Straight! ...That ones been bugging the hell outa me since it started.

That's exactly what it is ... business.  They have to get enough funding to keep it going to air the sci-fi stuff that we do like.  ECW brings in a lot of money.  Would you rather they took the high road, then went out of business, and we have no outlet for that stuff?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 24, 2009, 01:49 PM
Would you rather they took the high road, then went out of business, and we have no outlet for that stuff?

Maybe not. But I can't begin to tell you how much I'd like to say 'yes' to that question.  ;D

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Stoic Joker on June 24, 2009, 02:09 PM
My second example is an easy pot shot....a channel specializing in science-fiction has no gosh-darned business airing programming consisting of reality shows and professional wrestling!
Damn Straight! ...That ones been bugging the hell outa me since it started.

That's exactly what it is ... business.  They have to get enough funding to keep it going to air the sci-fi stuff that we do like.  ECW brings in a lot of money.  Would you rather they took the high road, then went out of business, and we have no outlet for that stuff?
*Shrug* …If it’s got to be…it’s got to be… So, yes I would. Either way I end up with a useless channel. Seriously, how many SciFi fans really watch that crap? Not me. I go look for other programming that doesn’t either suck or insult my intelligence (which is a bitch these days). Instead of wasting our collective time tossing tons of long ago dead programming in the hopes it will stick (people to their seats…which it never did, hence why it was originally canceled), they should turn lose of the kind of quality programming they (used to have) are holding in reserve for “next season” (what the hell ever that is these days.; what are they up to 7 seasons a year now?).

I haven’t watched SciFi in months … Si it’s already dead as far as I’m conscerned.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 24, 2009, 02:31 PM
I haven’t watched SciFi in months … Si it’s already dead as far as I’m conscerned.

Pretty much. But I'll keep hoping they'll rerun Space: Above and Beyond anyway.

Looks like that's another show I'll need to get on DVD. (Not that I'd mind owning my own copy. :))
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 24, 2009, 02:58 PM
Well, I know BSG just ended, but that was a bright spot.  And Doctor Who for a while- it has redeemable qualities.  I also loved the Dune series.  It might not be as much as I want, but I still like to have it.  But then again, maybe I'm just not rarefied in my tastes.  :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on June 25, 2009, 05:13 AM
..... they should turn lose of the kind of quality programming they (used to have).....

Uh oh, you've just made mrainey's hit list (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=12397.msg165354#msg165354) by doing the opposite :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Stoic Joker on June 25, 2009, 07:05 AM
..... they should turn lose of the kind of quality programming they (used to have).....

Uh oh, you've just made mrainey's hit list (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=12397.msg165354#msg165354) by doing the opposite :P
I'm using the "the spell checker did it" defense
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 25, 2009, 09:04 AM
Well, I know BSG just ended, but that was a bright spot.  And Doctor Who for a while- it has redeemable qualities.  I also loved the Dune series.  It might not be as much as I want, but I still like to have it.  But then again, maybe I'm just not rarefied in my tastes.  :P

Oh yeah... and Dresden Files.  That show wouldn't have gotten made on any other channel.  And I loved the little they had- just wish it hadn't been canceled. :(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on June 25, 2009, 04:24 PM
..... they should turn lose of the kind of quality programming they (used to have).....

Uh oh, you've just made mrainey's hit list (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=12397.msg165354#msg165354) by doing the opposite :P

Uh-oh, closet Grammar Nazi confession time... :nono2:

These things make me facepalm repeatedly:

Lose vs. Loose
Should've (should have) vs. Should of
One and the same vs. One in the same
Case in point vs. Case and point
Tremolo vs. Vibrato (40Hz, please tell me you know what I'm talking about...)

The list goes on, I'll expand as I collect more...
:wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:


Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 25, 2009, 07:42 PM
Uh-oh, closet Grammar Nazi confession time... :nono2:

These things make me facepalm repeatedly:

Lose vs. Loose
Should've (should have) vs. Should of
One and the same vs. One in the same
Case in point vs. Case and point
Tremolo vs. Vibrato (40Hz, please tell me you know what I'm talking about...)

The list goes on, I'll expand as I collect more...
:wallbash

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop! Those are like finger-nails on a chalkboard to me...

How about adding:

"Couldn't care less" vs. of "Could care less"

Oddly, I can't think of any others, but there are more. Many more. No doubt I'll remember more as soon as this is posted (which always annoys the snot out of me as well).

EDIT: Corrected crappy editing. Doh! ANOTHER thing that annoys me no end...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on June 25, 2009, 09:32 PM
All time annoyance: people not using BCC in their emails.

Last week I took a look into my emails database and realized that I have more than 500 addresses of people I will never know (i.e. friends of the clients)!

What is worse: about 50 of them came from general DC notifications :down:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 25, 2009, 10:47 PM
Oddly, I can't think of any others, but there are more.
For free  >:(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 25, 2009, 11:55 PM
Oddly, I can't think of any others, but there are more.
For free  >:(
-cranioscopical (June 25, 2009, 10:47 PM)

I pass this hand painted sign on my morning bike-ride and it never fails to make me laugh:

"Slow kids playing on road"

This one doesn't annoy me so much because it's very entertaining  ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on June 26, 2009, 01:58 AM
When people say "The proof is in the pudding"

It's not in the pudding! :mad:

"The proof of of the pudding is in the eating"  :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on June 26, 2009, 08:01 AM
For free  >:(
-cranioscopical (June 25, 2009, 10:47 PM)

I say some of those things in spoken language (well, actually only 'should of' and 'for free')
I understand the objections to all of them except 'for free' - I have a sense something's 'wrong' there, but would have trouble defining exactly what. Guess it's a paradox or something? Is it even 'correct' to say: I got it for ten dollars (?)
Actually I think it should be accepted into the official language :P

goes well with  -
he got it for nothin' !! :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 26, 2009, 08:16 AM
goes well with  -
he got it for nothin' !! :)

Shouldn't that be "fer nothin' "?  :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 26, 2009, 08:27 AM
goes well with  -
he got it for nothin' !! :)

Shouldn't that be "fer nothin' "?  :P
Would that be good?  ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 26, 2009, 11:14 AM
Ah! I thought of two more (that could possibly start a mini-flame war - so be it):

1. Pronouncing the "i" in Multi, Demi, Semi, etc. as "eye" instead of "ee" (heh, heh - I used a good illustration of why this is wrong in my paranthetic comment above: it's min-ee, not min-eye, no?)
2. Statements that go something like: "she's real pretty" instead of "she's really pretty"
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 26, 2009, 11:15 AM
goes well with  -
he got it for nothin' !! :)

Shouldn't that be "fer nothin' "?  :P
Would that be good?  ;)
-cranioscopical (June 26, 2009, 08:27 AM)

Shure nuff would 'lest ya conjure it be otherwise. ;D

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 26, 2009, 11:54 AM
Ah! I thought of two more (that could possibly start a mini-flame war - so be it):

1. Pronouncing the "i" in Multi, Demi, Semi, etc. as "eye" instead of "ee" (heh, heh - I used a good illustration of why this is wrong in my paranthetic comment above: it's min-ee, not min-eye, no?)
2. Statements that go something like: "she's real pretty" instead of "she's really pretty"

Nothing wrong with a mini-flame. It's been much (way?) too quite around here (anyway?)(anyhow?) lately. :P

Re #1: I'll have to agree with you on that niggle. Except when there are exceptions. Should that happen, I'm afraid you'll only find me in quasi-agreement with you. I'm sure Quasimodo would approve.

Re#2: Ahhh...the infamous missing ly issue. Does that make you feel bad  (or badly?) for the sorry state of grammatic (or grammatical?) use (or should that be usage?) in this day and age?

Note: I think the current trend in schools to actively discourage the use of adverbs, and limit the use of adjectives, (all in the name of "clearer prose") has a lot to do with the vanishing 'ly'.

---

My current pet word peeve: People who don't seem to understand that an apostrophe 's' indicates possession - not the plural. I can't tell you the number of times I've see somebody referring to many of something with an 's.

I find that error really (real?) annoying.

 ;D

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 26, 2009, 11:58 AM
And , (40hz mentioned this elsewhere, which reminded me) !!PowerPoint!!
or, more specifically, clients who want me to use it.

If you feel that you must
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Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on June 26, 2009, 12:00 PM
Ugh, using 's for plural... take them to town square and have them flogged!

It annoys me almost as much as Danish people who use 's for possession, since we don't use that in Danish (except for a few corner cases). I guess it will eventually be adopted and made official practice, though.

/me sighs
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 26, 2009, 12:22 PM
take them to town square and have them flogged!

Kinky! We sometimes do that to people. But we make it a point to not do it within our geographic borders since there's a prohibition in our Constitution against us doing things like that.

 :(

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 26, 2009, 12:31 PM
Nothing wrong with a mini-flame. It's been much (way?) too quite around here (anyway?)(anyhow?) lately. :P

That reminds me!  When people use quite instead of quiet and quiet instead of quite!  :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 26, 2009, 12:40 PM
When people use quite instead of quiet and quiet instead of quite!
Oh quit that!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 26, 2009, 01:12 PM
Awwww... but it's fun!

(Which reminds me... the overuse of ellipses - my own included!)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 26, 2009, 01:55 PM

My current pet word peeve: People who don't seem to understand that an apostrophe 's' indicates possession - not the plural. I can't tell you the number of times I've see somebody referring to many of something with an 's.

I find that error really (real?) annoying.

 ;D



Well then you must really go crazy over possessives and plural form for words ending in "s".....  I had English teachers who could not get it right!  (Remember to consider that ending in "s" doesn't always mean it is a plural form!)

I will mention that certain uses of the apostrophe+s to indicate plural form seem to feel very comfortable, while writing it correctly feels awkward. Some even postulate that using 's with certain acronyms and abbreviations that would otherwise look confusing is indeed proper!

Some examples:

Plural of the letter x.  xs? Doesn't x's just feel better? Plus in most cases no one would think that it indicates the possessive case of the letter "x".

Another is, "I was using Morse code to send SOSs". Doesn't it feel better to write, "I was using Morse code to send SOS's".

I used to go out of my way to rewrite sentences when trying to make an awkward plural form less confusing. Just like I once went nuts attempting to ensure that I NEVER ended sentences with prepositions. However I finally gave up and I now write it in a way that "feels" right to me - even when I know it is not grammatically correct.

 :)

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: katykaty on June 26, 2009, 01:57 PM
People pronouncing Bruschetta as 'brush-etter'.  :mad:

Especially when they work in Italian restaurants.   :mad: :mad:

Especially when I pronounce it right and they 'correct' me.  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 26, 2009, 02:12 PM

I find that error really (real?) annoying.

 ;D


(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/5Large/TFR1E0.gif)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 26, 2009, 02:13 PM
(Which reminds me... the overuse of ellipses - my own included!)

OK... I'm definitely guilty of that one  :-[
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 26, 2009, 02:39 PM
When people use quite instead of quiet and quiet instead of quite!
Oh quit that!
-cranioscopical (June 26, 2009, 12:40 PM)

Sorry. My spell cheque tolled me everything was spelled rite bee four eye cent it inn. :-[

Awwww... but it's fun!

(Which reminds me... the overuse of ellipses - my own included!)

Mine too...along with the incessant use of parentheses. (Mine included!). ;)

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 26, 2009, 03:51 PM

My current pet word peeve: People who don't seem to understand that an apostrophe 's' indicates possession - not the plural. I can't tell you the number of times I've see somebody referring to many of something with an 's.

I find that error really (real?) annoying.

 ;D



Well then you must really go crazy over possessives and plural form for words ending in "s".....  I had English teachers who could not get it right!  (Remember to consider that ending in "s" doesn't always mean it is a plural form!)

I don't know if they still teach it this way, but back when I was in school, possessives that ended in an s were written as an s+apostrophe. As in: Hans' hands were holding Hoss' horses' saddles. (Hmmm...not bad!)

I will mention that certain uses of the apostrophe+s to indicate plural form seem to feel very comfortable, while writing it correctly feels awkward. Some even postulate that using 's with certain acronyms and abbreviations that would otherwise look confusing is indeed proper!

Agree with you 100% on that. :Thmbsup:

Some examples:

Plural of the letter x.  xs? Doesn't x's just feel better? Plus in most cases no one would think that it indicates the possessive case of the letter "x".

That's a tougher one. We used to get taught that if a word ended in in an H, S, or X, then the plural was made by adding an 'es' to the end of the word rather than just a plain 's':

Example: Boss (singular); bosses (plural); boss' (singular possessive); bosses' (plural possessive). I don't know if this is still the standard taught today.

Possessives can still be tricky in other ways. Consider:

Be sure to check the box's contents. (singular possessive)
Be sure to check the boxes' contents. (plural possessive)

We would be expected to add additional "clarifying" words when constructing sentences like those in order to avoid the dreaded "awkward grammar" correction. That's when you got marked down for a lack of style even though you were technically correct. (There's a valuable life lesson lurking somewhere in there. >:D)

So the first sentence would probably have been written: Be sure to check (this/that) box's contents. And the second would have been written something like: Be sure to check (all/every/those) boxes' contents.

Another is, "I was using Morse code to send SOSs". Doesn't it feel better to write, "I was using Morse code to send SOS's".

Actually, if I were  doing something like "walking on the moon..." all the while hoping "my leg won't break" ... and I suddenly found I was in a situation where I'd need to be "sending out an S.O.S." (maybe to to Roxanne ?) I wouldn't be giving a flying apostrophe as to how well it looked or sounded. Just so long as somebody understood it sent me some help.

But you're quite right. It's impossible to cover all instances with a blanket rule. Take SOS. Is it more correctly written S.O.S. (as I was taught) or do we go with the newer SOS sans periods? If we go with the cleaner looking SOS, then your SOS's are more effective in conveying what you mean than something like SOSes or SOSs. Assuming, of course, you simply meant to convey the notion of a number of SOS signals, as opposed to something like the SOS's signal quality or point of origin.

As you can see, there's sometimes no good way to do it.

I used to go out of my way to rewrite sentences when trying to make an awkward plural form less confusing. Just like I once went nuts attempting to ensure that I NEVER ended sentences with prepositions. However I finally gave up and I now write it in a way that "feels" right to me - even when I know it is not grammatically correct.

 :)

Jim

I'm with you. Anybody who has ever had to deal with the way I speak and write will tell you I'm the first to wing it, either for effect, to make a joke, or just to be sure I'm getting my point across. Once, when criticized for his way he constantly misspelled words, President Andrew Jackson retorted, “It's a damn small mind that can think of only one way to spell a word.” I'd be inclined to go a step further and say the same goes for blind adherence to arbitrary rules when they get in the way of what we're trying to convey.

 8)

BTW: Did any of that make sense?



Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Stoic Joker on June 26, 2009, 04:23 PM
I'm with you. Anybody who has ever had to deal with the way I speak and write will tell you I'm the first to wing it, either for effect, to make a joke, or just to be sure I'm getting my point across. Once, when criticized for his way he constantly misspelled words, President Andrew Jackson retorted, “It's a damn small mind that can think of only one way to spell a word.” I'd be inclined to go a step further and say the same goes for blind adherence to arbitrary rules when they get in the way of what we're trying to convey.

 8)

BTW: Did any of that make sense?




To me yes ... but that's probably a bad thing.

On a side note...I had to google preposition *Shrug* and found this site which seems to fit the current debate. http://www.uottawa.ca/academic/arts/writcent/hypergrammar/

...Apearently Canada is how far north you have to go to find folks what speak English proper.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on June 26, 2009, 04:29 PM
@40Hz
You might be right person to ask :)

I've heard once that "the possessive case is not allowed for objects as owners" so using i.e. "router's IP address" instead of "IP address of the router" is mistake. Now, looking at your "Be sure to check the box's contents" makes me feel confused.

Could you enlighten me (or post a link to better sources)?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 26, 2009, 05:05 PM
I don't know if they still teach it this way, but back when I was in school, possessives that ended in an s were written as an s+apostrophe. As in: Hans' hands were holding Hoss' horses' saddles. (Hmmm...not bad!)

Definitely the way I learned it in school!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Grorgy on June 26, 2009, 05:43 PM
I'm getting annoyed with people who can actually remember back to school  :huh:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 26, 2009, 06:07 PM
The one with rodney dangerfield?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 26, 2009, 06:15 PM
I don't know if they still teach it this way, but back when I was in school, possessives that ended in an s were written as an s+apostrophe. As in: Hans' hands were holding Hoss' horses' saddles. (Hmmm...not bad!)

Definitely the way I learned it in school!

True if it ends in "s" because it is plural and is not a surname. Not true if it ends in "s" but is is a surname, which would make it not a plural.

E.g., That is Tom Jones's song. Not a plural so it still gets the 's instead of the s'   Thoroughly confused now?

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 26, 2009, 06:16 PM
Oh - of course if the song belonged to his family it then would be the Joneses' song.   ;)

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 26, 2009, 11:18 PM
@40Hz
You might be right person to ask :)

I've heard once that "the possessive case is not allowed for objects as owners" so using i.e. "router's IP address" instead of "IP address of the router" is mistake. Now, looking at your "Be sure to check the box's contents" makes me feel confused.

Could you enlighten me (or post a link to better sources)?
-fenixproductions (June 26, 2009, 04:29 PM)

Being an American speaker of English (an oxymoron if there ever was one BTW), I'm probably not the best person to ask.

However, I do remember being taught both ways. In grammar school (uniforms, Dominican nuns, eyaaaaahhhh!!)...sorry...we were, in fact, taught that objects could not use the possessive case...

In High School (Jesuits, jeans, yay Joplin!, yay Hendrix!)...sorry...we were told just the opposite. The rule seemed to be that objects could use the possessive if doing so allowed you to avoid an awkward construct. Basically, you used whichever form sounded better.

-----

I would have thought that, by now, all those grammarians would have reached consensus on how to handle the plural/possessive question. But after doing some research, it seems the jury is still out on this one.

I'd take a look at these two links for clarification:

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm

Many writers consider it bad form to use apostrophe -s possessives with pieces of furniture and buildings or inanimate objects in general. Instead of "the desk's edge" (according to many authorities), we should write "the edge of the desk" and instead of "the hotel's windows" we should write "the windows of the hotel." In fact, we would probably avoid the possessive altogether and use the noun as an attributive: "the hotel windows." This rule (if, in fact, it is one) is no longer universally endorsed. We would not say "the radio of that car" instead of "that car's radio" (or the "car radio") and we would not write "the desire of my heart" instead of "my heart's desire." Writing "the edge of the ski" would probably be an improvement over "the ski's edge," however.

http://www.meredith.edu/grammar/plural.htm

Possessive forms (Bedford 36a/Hodges' 15a)
A possessive form of a noun signifies that the noun owns something:

A musician's talent
A woman's ambition

Possessive forms call for a properly placed apostrophe. The placement is different for singular and plural nouns. For this reason, you must know the correct singular and possessive nouns before you can make them possessive.

Singular possessive
The possessive form of a singular noun is an apostrophe followed by the letter "s."

Kramer's hair
Daphne's patience
the car's engine

Words ending with s, z or x generally omit the "s."

Dr. Seuss' sense of humor

Plural possessive
In order to place the apostrophe correctly in plural nouns, you must first be certain of the plural form. If you have questions about these forms, you may want to browse the section on plural nouns above.

For plural nouns ending in "s," add only an apostrophe:

Singers' voices
The cousins' favorite uncle

For plural nouns not ending in "s," add an apostrophe and "s."

Men's clothing
Children's books


So if you're confused about what's most correct - don't be. I am too!  ;D


Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 26, 2009, 11:35 PM
I'm getting annoyed with people who can actually remember back to school  :huh:

I was hoping you'd feel sorry for us.

It's not our fault we didn't have liberal parents...(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/rulez.gif)

(or enough pocket money to buy beer!) 


  :beerchug: :beerchug::beerchug: :beerchug:
:beerchug:             (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/20.gif)              :beerchug:
  :beerchug: :beerchug::beerchug: :beerchug:


:P



Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on June 27, 2009, 03:13 AM
Oh - of course if the song belonged to his family it then would be the Joneses' song.   ;)

*sigh*
it's hard to keep up with them  :p
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on June 27, 2009, 03:19 AM
Being an American speaker of English (an oxymoron if there ever was one BTW)

I sometimes see German translations of novels that say:
'Aus dem Amerikanischen von Tom Jones' (continuing a theme)
which is
[Translated] from 'American' by Tom Jones
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 27, 2009, 07:40 AM
Oh - of course if the song belonged to his family it then would be the Joneses' song.   ;)

*sigh*
it's hard to keep up with them  :p

  ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 27, 2009, 11:27 AM
hat's exactly what it is ... business.  They have to get enough funding to keep it going to air the sci-fi stuff that we do like.  ECW brings in a lot of money.  Would you rather they took the high road, then went out of business, and we have no outlet for that stuff?
-wraith808

While I might agree with you if SciFi Channel were its own free-standing entity, but they are a wholly-owned subsidiary of NBC. For some reason I really don't think SciFi airing ECW is what is keeping them afloat.

But this is all a moot point anyway. Soon SciFi is going to be ScyFy (sic). Then we are going to see all the great science-fiction programming slowly erode away.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on June 27, 2009, 10:10 PM
Just as a note for recent "grammar" talks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suxn3gbcF6A

If this link is not working, treat as another annoyance: "this video is not available in your country" messages ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 28, 2009, 07:44 AM
Just as a note for recent "grammar" talks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suxn3gbcF6A

If this link is not working, treat as another annoyance: "this video is not available in your country" messages ;)
-fenixproductions (June 27, 2009, 10:10 PM)

You should be able to get around the country restriction. All you need to do is look at the YouTube URL in the address bar and replace the string: /watch?v= with this one: /v/

Example:

Original link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHbSMZKvqUk&feature=featured


Hacked link - http://www.youtube.com/v/WHbSMZKvqUk&feature=featured

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 28, 2009, 08:50 AM
Stores which print off receipts that are the length of two 8.5x11 pieces of paper when all you purchased was a single item. The receipt I received from rite aide yesterday was that size and all I purchased was Visine eye drops. Half of that was asking me to complete a survey which is "random", yet every receipt I get from them has that survey on it, and the other half was a special explaining an upcoming promotion.

WHAT A WASTE OF PAPER!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 28, 2009, 01:44 PM
Minor but at times extremely annoying:

Web forms that, after you have filled in all fields - some via a form-filling utility, like LastPass or RoboForm, but some that you must enter manually like your chosen username and password and other one-time entries - they return the form page as "invalid" because they don't like your email address or they want the 9 digit ZIP instead of 5 or vice versa, or the captcha was incorrect - and it wipes out ALL the custom fields, requiring you to enter the stuff all over again. Sometimes they do not specify clearly enough exactly what they didn't like and force you to refill the form several times before you finally realize what they want.

I rarely ever get to the end anymore, 'cause I usually just mutter a few choice unkind words as I close that tab after the second return!  Grrrrr....

Jim

BTW - I posted this because it just happened w/Share*It trying to purchase Archivarius. I was using the PayPal option - which though Share*It offers they do all they can to discourage you from using it - and I used the email address that is associated with my PayPal account. Share*It returns it as invalid saying I used a free email address and they don't accept them. First, it is NOT a free email address! Five year subscription cost me a couple of hundred bucks! Plus they want me to use my PayPal address and that is it. Share*It was already on my sh-tlist for other reasons, like how they screw people with undisclosed exchange rate fees and other added little annoyances. This one was the last straw though.

I won't be purchasing Archivarius.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on June 29, 2009, 10:50 AM
Web forms that, after you have filled in all fields - some via a form-filling utility, like LastPass or RoboForm, but some that you must enter manually like your chosen username and password and other one-time entries - they return the form page as "invalid" because they don't like your email address or they want the 9 digit ZIP instead of 5 or vice versa, or the captcha was incorrect - and it wipes out ALL the custom fields, requiring you to enter the stuff all over again. Sometimes they do not specify clearly enough exactly what they didn't like and force you to refill the form several times before you finally realize what they want.
-J-Mac

Solution to this annoying problem if you are a Firefox user:

http://lazarus.interclue.com/
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on June 29, 2009, 12:09 PM
Web forms that, after you have filled in all fields - some via a form-filling utility, like LastPass or RoboForm, but some that you must enter manually like your chosen username and password and other one-time entries - they return the form page as "invalid" because they don't like your email address or they want the 9 digit ZIP instead of 5 or vice versa, or the captcha was incorrect - and it wipes out ALL the custom fields, requiring you to enter the stuff all over again. Sometimes they do not specify clearly enough exactly what they didn't like and force you to refill the form several times before you finally realize what they want.
-J-Mac

Solution to this annoying problem if you are a Firefox user:

http://lazarus.interclue.com/

Looks good - I'm checking it out now.

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on June 29, 2009, 10:21 PM
People who - after (or during!) eating - lick and suck their fingers (especially if it's noisy).
What do they think napkins were invented for, anyway??
And no, even if they suck the tips of their fingers from pinkie to thumb really, really fast, it makes it no more innocent or any less annoying.
It's even worse if they're cooking. People always seem to do this when they're cooking at home.
I just watched someone do this over the weekend...then she unconsciously(?) wiped her just-licked fingers on the sofa as she was talking!!!!
I'm not even concerned about germs much here, just, everything about it is annoying.

And people wonder why I can't deal with roommates...gross.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 29, 2009, 11:40 PM
she unconsciously(?) wiped her just-licked fingers on the sofa as she was talking!!!!

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Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 29, 2009, 11:41 PM
And people wonder why I can't deal with roommates...gross.
See, it's attitudes like this that made me learn to eat with my toes!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on June 30, 2009, 12:00 AM
And people wonder why I can't deal with roommates...gross.
I see no connection.

Having roommates does not automatically mean having bad behaved ones. And even if, there is nothing wrong in telling what makes you annoyed. None of us are perfect, so it is normal to take critics.

I've used to live with other people for a long time. I have, sometimes, bad habit of not cleaning my dishes right away after use but I really appreciate that someone yells at me because of it. That helps me to get straight and leave bad behaviour behind. You can also teach someone few nice things.

That is how it goes with friends, partnership and many, many other things. You can get a rid off nasty things and / or learn to accept people the way they really are. IMHO it's just a part of being mature :p

P.S. On the other hand, after few years spent in dorm there are not so many things to be annoyed about ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: katykaty on July 06, 2009, 01:46 PM
Another hotel with one of those signs in the bathroom saying, to paraphrase 'Please leave the towels you want us to launder in the bath, and we'll leave the rest, because we are lovely caring people and want to do all we can to reduce damage to the environment'.

Grrr  >:(

I'm not stupid you know  :mad:

At least have the honesty to say

It costs us a fortune to wash all your towels, you awful smelly people!

Do us a favour by keeping some of them clean. It'll add to our profits or cut our losses, and you never know, we may pass the saving on to you. Or maybe not.

Oh, and as an added bonus, it's good for the environment if we're not doing so much laundry, though we know that you know that we know that that wasn't really a consideration.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2009, 02:20 PM
though we know that you know that we know that that wasn't really a consideration.

 ;D so true
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on July 06, 2009, 03:59 PM
Another hotel with one of those signs in the bathroom saying, to paraphrase 'Please leave the towels you want us to launder in the bath, and we'll leave the rest, because we are lovely caring people and want to do all we can to reduce damage to the environment'.
It's just a load of old flannel!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on July 06, 2009, 04:31 PM
People who seem to think that by turning on my blinker I am telling them to "Speed up"


ARGH!!!!!!!!!    :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on July 06, 2009, 05:11 PM
People who seem to think that by turning on my blinker I am telling them to "Speed up"


ARGH!!!!!!!!!    :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

If you're turning, just take your foot off the gas pedal, so you can make a nice, calm, perfect turn.
 ;D   ;D   ;D
If you're trying to get over to another lane, well, that's a tough one.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on July 06, 2009, 10:19 PM
People who seem to think that by turning on my blinker I am telling them to "Speed up"


ARGH!!!!!!!!!    :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

Ha!  Just move to NYC. Turn signals are apparently big-ticket options there, and most must not order them....

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mwb1100 on July 07, 2009, 11:06 AM
People who seem to think that by turning on my blinker I am telling them to "Speed up"

There's a corrolary to this one (which hit me this morning on my way to work): 

When moving smoothly down the left hand lane, someone in the right hand lane will jump in front of you then proceed to slow down (invariably going slower than the vehicles in the right hand lane).
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on July 07, 2009, 12:40 PM
Microsoft's "shell game" pricing for Windows and Office.

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It's always fun when Microsoft makes it a challenge to get the feature mix you need without springing for the "Ultimate" editions.

It would be bad enough if they merely added features to each 'higher' level. But no! Microsoft feels the need to arbitrarily remove one or two as well...

I don't know of anything so deliberately designed to confuse the buyer - with the possible exception of AT&T's all-in-one phone plans.

 >:(

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on July 07, 2009, 04:19 PM
Microsoft's "shell game" pricing for Windows and Office
Must be nuts!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Sundog29 on July 07, 2009, 05:13 PM
1. people who are intolerant of others
2. the Dutch
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on July 07, 2009, 05:39 PM
Sundog: I believe the quote is "People who are intolerant of other people's cultures"
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Shades on July 07, 2009, 07:28 PM
Why the Dutch, Sundog? They are quite open minded. At least they are (mostly) contradicting with your first point of annoyance.

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: lanux128 on July 07, 2009, 09:20 PM
1. people who are intolerant of others
2. the Dutch

i believe he is quoting from the movie, "Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002)".

the full quote is like this, as spoken by Dr. Evil (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0026630/quotes):
There are two types of people I hate in this world
1) People who are intolerant of others' cultures, and
2) The Dutch!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0295178/
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on July 07, 2009, 10:25 PM
This one will probably get objections and numerous reasons why it is necessary, but I really, really hate it anyway:

Developers - particularly those with a catalog of exactly ONE application - who insist on having their program listed under a company name in Program Files. So as not to get personal, a "pretend" application named "Percolator" is in a Program Files folder named "JehosephatABCSoftware". Or something equally inane. Just so that when you need to find their app's folder either in Program Files or in the Docs and Settings User folder's Application Data and can't remember their stupid company's name, you can spin around like an idiot looking for it - alternating between AnyUser and your own User folder, plus the Local Settings folder. That's when you realize it is NOT in a folder named "Percolator" and you start all over again.

Grrr...

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Shades on July 07, 2009, 10:33 PM
Ooops, I can blame my lack of knowledge about movie quotes. Sorry about that.

Normally I steer away from any movie where I have to look at Mike Meyers. Jim Carrey is in that same corner...so a movie with those two would annoy me to no end!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on July 07, 2009, 10:57 PM
This one will probably get objections and numerous reasons why it is necessary, but I really, really hate it anyway:

Developers - particularly those with a catalog of exactly ONE application - who insist on having their program listed under a company name in Program Files.

Jim

This really bothers me, too. It is mostly for this reason I forget I even have the program (unless I use it all the time).
Equally annoying is that when I install a program, setup asks which folder in Program Files I wish to install it in : I remove the company name so that it reads:

Program files\software name

and it creates its 'company name' folder and installs it there, anyway.
Why is there even an option, if it's just going to go wherever it's going to go, anyway?

Is Program Files not really the kind of folder they're talking about or something?
Windows does have some peculiar inconsistencies, so this wouldn't surprise me if this were the case.

And what is this: no file version, no date, no nothing in the details of the installation file. I keep all of my downloaded installation files (sometimes other users want versions of software no longer available & no one has a copy). It's a pain to have to make folders with dates or versions for each setup file.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: lanux128 on July 08, 2009, 12:59 AM
Normally I steer away from any movie where I have to look at Mike Meyers. Jim Carrey is in that same corner...so a movie with those two would annoy me to no end!

yes Jim Carrey gets a bit of a stick for his roles but i really liked The Truman Show.. :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on July 08, 2009, 02:25 AM

And what is this: no file version, no date, no nothing in the details of the installation file. I keep all of my downloaded installation files (sometimes other users want versions of software no longer available & no one has a copy). It's a pain to have to make folders with dates or versions for each setup file.

Oh, I agree strongly with this. Basically it is simply laziness - they want to just use the same installer package with as little change as possible. I always add the version number. Unless I forgot what it is - then I add the date instead.

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on July 08, 2009, 06:06 AM
Shades...It is a quote from Austin Powers Goldmember
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on July 09, 2009, 11:29 AM
My latest peeve - EXE-type installers that are hard coded to require a specific version of .NET Framework.

I have V2.0-SP2; V3.0-SP2; and V3.5-SP1 currently installed.

Now, something I need to install is insisting that V1.1-SP1 also be present.



Drives me nuts! >:(

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on July 09, 2009, 12:43 PM
My latest peeve - EXE-type installers that are hard coded to require a specific version of .NET Framework.

I have V2.0-SP2; V3.0-SP2; and V3.5-SP1 currently installed.

Now, something I need to install is insisting that V1.1-SP1 also be present.

Doesn't really have anything to do with the installer- it depends on the framework the exe was compiled under.  A .NET 1.1 app cannot run under .net 2.0 and vice versa- it really depends on what the application needs.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on July 09, 2009, 03:02 PM
A .NET 1.1 app cannot run under .net 2.0 and vice versa

And all this time I thought they were at least backwardly compatible. Live and learn. Thx! :)

Oh well... if I can't slag the installer, I can still slag the authors of the app since they're responsible for both.

.NET V1.1 goes back to 2003.
V3.0 has been around since 2006.
V3.5 came out in late 2007.

It's now 2009. C'mon guys!

 ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on July 09, 2009, 08:10 PM
I was reminded of a pet annoyance of mine yesterday when I had to journey out in the car.

Automatic transmissions - the surest way to turn drivers into inconsiderate morons.

Why?  You can bet that the person trundling along at 40kph in a 60kph+ zone with a line of cars behind has an automatic transmission.
They simply have no idea that a high percentage, (here in Australia anyway), of people use manual transmissions and so are behind these idiots stuck in 4th, 3rd or even 2nd gear, (assuming a 5 speed box).

They should ban automatics in anything smaller than a bus, (excepting those people who require one for real disability reasons - not including the lack of eye-hand-foot coordination required for a manual).
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on July 09, 2009, 11:10 PM
I was reminded of a pet annoyance of mine yesterday when I had to journey out in the car.

Automatic transmissions - the surest way to turn drivers into inconsiderate morons.

Why?  You can bet that the person trundling along at 40kph in a 60kph+ zone with a line of cars behind has an automatic transmission.
They simply have no idea that a high percentage, (here in Australia anyway), of people use manual transmissions and so are behind these idiots stuck in 4th, 3rd or even 2nd gear, (assuming a 5 speed box).

They should ban automatics in anything smaller than a bus, (excepting those people who require one for real disability reasons - not including the lack of eye-hand-foot coordination required for a manual).

OK, I can see being annoyed at people driving too slow, but to make a generalization that all slow drivers must be using automatic transmissions? A little presumptuous, methinks!  :huh:

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on July 09, 2009, 11:49 PM
OK, I can see being annoyed at people driving too slow, but to make a generalization that all slow drivers must be using automatic transmissions? A little presumptuous, methinks!  :huh:

Not really, I can't see anyone willingly driving along in 2nd or 3rd at 40kph - the engine would either be revving rather loudly or the whole car kangarooing because the engine is not in it's optimum load range.

We are talking about a main road here, clearly signposted speed limits 20-30kph above what they are doing - not some back street where they might conceivably be looking for an address.
I'm not referring to those high speed sections of road either, just the normal 60/70 kph zones we get here in Australia.  If they're doing 70/80 in a 100 kph zone, no problem because then I'm not constantly changing gears.

If you want to try, jump in a car with a manual transmission and then drive along at 40kph in 2nd/3rd and see how long you last before you get annoyed - it's even worse when I'm driving behind them in my Landcruiser because it's a diesel and at 40kph I'm right on the 2nd/3rd gear change point.

I won't even get into the people who go, "Oh no! There's a bend in the road hit the brakes!"   (A bend, not a corner, a bend where you can see the road continuing clearly for the next 300 metres....sheesh!)

Oh.....I think I just did  :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on July 10, 2009, 12:18 AM
Here in the U.S., when manual transmissions were more prevalent, it was mostly old people who drove automatics.
And, it is often old people who drive too slow.
So...maybe they're just old?

In any case, automatics could be spotted way in advance.
Maybe you could make it a point move as soon as you see one?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on July 10, 2009, 12:31 AM
So...maybe they're just old?

That's generally the case but it still doesn't stop them from actually pulling over to the side of the road to let the 6+ cars crawling along behind them pass.

That's what automatics have exacerbated, it's seems they no longer bother to pull over because their car isn't telling them to, ie. they no longer have to change gear to account for road conditions - the brain no longer needs to be in gear.

BTW, I really liked the "Slow Driver must pull over" Federal Law in the USA - I just wish they had the same here.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on July 10, 2009, 01:32 AM
Oh, I have had a few cars in the past that drove at similar speeds while in the highest gear. Two in particular were early Volkswagons: one a 1963 from Germany, and the other, believe it or not, was much older!! Not sure how much older. The '63 had an engine held in place with only 4 bolts, and thick rubber washers were all that served as "motor mounts"! Neither had fuel gauges but the '63 had a reserve tank for when the engine started sputtering from lack of fuel. It was controlled by a valve handle under the front seat.

They could both get well over 40 km/hr but would have strained terribly at 40 in any lower gear. I would think that any seriously underpowered engine would do similarly. Again, I am not excusing overly cautious drivers. Just not ready to assume what type of transmission their cars must have.   :)

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on August 12, 2009, 12:54 PM
I live in Denmark, so I really don't have anything to annoy me (unless I travel on the Internet... - as CleverCat said (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=12397.msg103453#msg103453): >google for "FREE software" and get anything but free!<), but when I read Deozaan's post I nevertheless felt a need to respond:

Gay marriage: People like me who don't believe gay marriage should be legally allowed are often called homophobic, and hateful. I have my reasons for thinking this is a bad idea, but these sorts of topics are kind of off limits to the forum. I just want to say that I'm not homophobic or hateful toward homosexuals. I have friends who are gay, have met gay people in the workplace and school, and I enjoy their friendship.

It really annoys me (though not "to no end") when a pleasant and joyous feeling like being gay is interpreted as, being a homosexual!

To explain a little better I have uploaded an innocent but yet NSFW image
(remember to also read the pic's integrated two texts):

gay rainbow stockings
click thumbnail for large view, so you can read the two texts:
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]


Some Americans may not get it, but I am gay because I am not not a gay.

---

What can annoy me "to no end" is when I see someone being bullied to do what is wrong,
- then "to no end" really means T R O U B L E S !
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on August 12, 2009, 01:28 PM
It really annoys me (though not "to no end") when a pleasant and joyous feeling like being gay is interpreted as, being a homosexual!

Unfortunately Curt, that is all 'gay' means, anymore, in the US, at least in modern usage. There is no more, 'he was happy and gay today'!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on August 12, 2009, 01:48 PM
It really annoys me (though not "to no end") when a pleasant and joyous feeling like being gay is interpreted as, being a homosexual!

Unfortunately Curt, that is all 'gay' means, anymore, in the US, at least in modern usage. There is no more, 'he was happy and gay today'!

How true! There's an annoyance right there: Losing common words to specific appropriated meanings. I can understand people not preferring the word "homosexual" as it has picked up bad connotations to the point of being a slur in some cases. In that respect I can certainly understand the desire to avoid that word, and I guess that the only apparent solution is to appropriate another, less offensive sounding word to replace it with. However it then becomes just as uncomfortable for most folks to use such words in their original meaning and context. E.g., most people don't use the word "gay" anymore in any other sense than as it refers to sexual preference.

Unfortunately you will have a very difficult time finding high school students who will take the part of Maria in "West Side Story" if they have to sing "I'm So Pretty"! Actually I just discovered that the original words for the stage version, "I'm so pretty and witty and gay" were changed to "I'm so pretty and witty and bright" in the movie version, and most modern presentations of the musical play now use the "bright" version in an attempt to be "PC"... Yikes!

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on August 12, 2009, 02:36 PM
Actually I just discovered that the original words for the stage version, "I'm so pretty and witty and gay" were changed to "I'm so pretty and witty and bright" in the movie version, and most modern presentations of the musical play now use the "bright" version in an attempt to be "PC"... Yikes!

Nice. Who's next, Shakespeare?
Tiptoeing around a word commonly used in the period of time a screenplay is depicting isn't PC.
The whole point of being 'PC' is to not offend the party being considered. Who on earth could that have possibly offended?
If they weren't gay, it's vain and cowardly move that compromises a significant contribution to the arts.
If they were, they're certainly the minority of their community.

Grrrr...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mwb1100 on August 12, 2009, 09:32 PM
BTW, I really liked the "Slow Driver must pull over" Federal Law in the USA

Hey - what law us that?  I might have to start writin' some tickets!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on August 12, 2009, 10:22 PM
BTW, I really liked the "Slow Driver must pull over" Federal Law in the USA

Hey - what law us that?  I might have to start writin' some tickets!

The last time I was in the US of A, (2003), traveling up the west coast and down through the inner-western states, there were road signs on any section of road that had a reasonable incline stating:

"It is a Federal Law that slow traffic allow other traffic to pass."

Or, along those lines.

They weren't old signs, (having been left from a bygone era, etc), and there were enough of them not to assume an isolated incidence.

This might be what I'm thinking of: Slow Vehicles Use Turnouts (http://www.johncletheroe.org/usa_can/driving/signbrf.htm#slow_vehicles_use_turnouts)

I'm positive that the ones I saw stated "Federal Law" in them.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on August 12, 2009, 10:28 PM
BTW, I really liked the "Slow Driver must pull over" Federal Law in the USA

Hey - what law us that?  I might have to start writin' some tickets!

Probably referring to the Uniform Vehicle Code and/or "Keep Right" laws of most states. Here's a link showing all states' Keep Right laws:  http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html (http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html)

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on August 12, 2009, 11:04 PM
People who seem to think that by turning on my blinker I am telling them to "Speed up"


ARGH!!!!!!!!!    :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

Oops, I forgot to mention to Josh - if anyone's trying to switch lanes, it's a violation to keep them from doing so.
At least in California.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on August 13, 2009, 12:21 AM
People who seem to think that by turning on my blinker I am telling them to "Speed up"


ARGH!!!!!!!!!    :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

Oops, I forgot to mention to Josh - if anyone's trying to switch lanes, it's a violation to keep them from doing so.
At least in California.

SO many people do this that I believe it is actually unintentional with some folks. It's as if when some people realize that someone else is passing them, they think, "Oh, I must have slowed down too much... let me pick up the pace." It just happens with far too many people to be spiteful. Or maybe I am giving too much credit where it ain't due?

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nosh on August 14, 2009, 03:00 AM
The uber-retarded T9 predictive text thingie - atleast the version on my Nokia. I have to keep teaching it the same words over and over because of its limited memory for storing custom words, it has the most bizarre words inbuilt, no editing functionality - all in all a total CITAG (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Citag)!  :wallbash:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on August 14, 2009, 03:32 AM
The uber-retarded T9 predictive text thingie - atleast the version on my Nokia. I have to keep teaching it the same words over and over because of its limited memory for storing custom words, it has the most bizarre words inbuilt, no editing functionality - all in all a total CITAG (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Citag)!  :wallbash:

I gave up on it myself (also a nokia :-\)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on August 14, 2009, 06:57 AM
What also annoys me, but again not to no end, is yet another American thing: "uber". Any child, outside of America, that is, will know it is "über", with an umlaut.  :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nosh on August 14, 2009, 09:56 AM
But not all of those kiddies have the patience to memorize ASCII or fire up charmap! [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on August 14, 2009, 10:07 AM
Any child, outside of America, that is, will know it is "über"
I find that hard to ünderstand.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on August 14, 2009, 10:24 AM
Any child, outside of America, that is, will know it is "über"
I find that hard to ünderstand.
-cranioscopical (August 14, 2009, 10:07 AM)

üüüüü . .  ääääää . . lets see,
ö forget it . .
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on August 14, 2009, 12:57 PM
But not all of those kiddies have the patience to memorize ASCII or fire up charmap! 

You are right; I forgot that an American keyboard is different from mine. On my Danish keyboard the "¨" is the last bütton before "Enter"!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: myarmor on August 14, 2009, 04:49 PM
Windows Vista and 7 start menu annoys me to no end.. oh, and the "Library" garbage.

The reason is simple, it takes ages to get to the right item compared to xp (a 3 level menu in xp equals 3-4 mouseclicks,
compared to 1 in xp).
The search thingy works, but it requires using of the keyboard, then the mouse.

I've tried using both vista and 7, and most of the reasons why I'm not about to upgrade is that
annoying start menu.
I really should be using 64bit of one of those, but currently programs for them are rather useless..
7-Zip (64bit version) and WinRar shell extensions cant extract anything into "Program files" or similar because no access
rights (and they don't ask).
7-Zip can't register its file extensions.
and so on.

Btw, why create lots of entries ABOVE the diskdrives in explorer etc??
Oh, and the annoying $RECYCLE.BIN folder on every drive (on a dual boot with xp you end up with $RECYCLE.BIN and RECYCLER).
In my mind they have no purpose and is always empty.

How would one hide them and "System Volume Information" everywhere,and still see all hidden files/folders.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on August 14, 2009, 04:58 PM
MyArmor, it takes me simply hitting 1 keystroke (Windows key), typing in my search and arrowing to the result. I can usually type and find my result far quicker than scrolling through menus in any OS (XP, 2K, etc). I absolutely love the start menu as it almost duplicates functionality similar to FARR (7 does even more so since I can add custom indexed locations for the start menu search).

As for winrar, I can get winrar to extract fine to program files or system32. Doing so often results in a UAC prompt which alerts me I am writing to a protected area. I used to have problems with vanilla Vista, but havent since SP1.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: myarmor on August 14, 2009, 06:32 PM
@Josh, I have items which results in upto 8 hits after 6 keystrokes, the result is a total of 7 keystrokes + a mouseclick (or 1-7 additional keystrokes to get to the item in question). The search thingy doesn't seem to search only the menu. for XP the same takes a total of 2 mouseclicks and minimal movement (I use 100ms delay for the menus in xp)
So while it is more flexible (as you mentioned), it seems to require extra "work" to end with the same result.

In XP you could organize the start menu very efficiently (removing unneeded shortcuts, group them in different folders etc), but this is mostly pointless in
W7 as its behaviour doesn't allow for it to be of any real use.. i.e "submenus" takes ages to open, going up a level in the menu is another issue, etc.
I guess someone ends up recreating the XP startmenu for W7.

So far my issues with W7 is the startmenu and explorer, otherwise it seems rather good, although W64 has a long way to go to provide the same as W32.

About winrar/7-zip, I guess this might be different between 32 and 64bit as the security in W64 tends to be harsher in many ways. None of those asks (UAC) in W7 64.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on August 14, 2009, 07:04 PM
I used to organize my folders in the start menu religiously. I would have the same layout on every PC just for organization resulting in 6 root folders. In vista, this has been pointless for me as the search facility saves me so much time that I don't have to spend searching through my menus to find an entry. I type it in as thoroughly as I can and usually hit enter. Very rarely do I have to scroll through my result list, although it has happened a couple of times, and those few times are due to my just being in a hurry and not being as specific as I could have been. That and the fact that I can type upwards of 100+ wpm makes the keyboard usage that much more efficient for me.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on August 14, 2009, 10:34 PM
But not all of those kiddies have the patience to memorize ASCII or fire up charmap! 

You are right; I forgot that an American keyboard is different from mine. On my Danish keyboard the "¨" is the last bütton before "Enter"!


Unfortunately I am guilty of the same. Unless I have the ASCII code for the character memorized it just gets the letter typed without anything added to modify it. Very much a PITA to type those characters regularly on a standard US keyboard.

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on August 15, 2009, 01:52 PM
But not all of those kiddies have the patience to memorize ASCII or fire up charmap! 

You are right; I forgot that an American keyboard is different from mine. On my Danish keyboard the "¨" is the last bütton before "Enter"!

Unfortunately I am guilty of the same. Unless I have the ASCII code for the character memorized it just gets the letter typed without anything added to modify it. Very much a PITA to type those characters regularly on a standard US keyboard.

hey! I thought all dc members loved finding obscure little programmes to make this kind of thing easier!

I have to say I love having a german keyboard - I have three extra characters (üöä) on the right-hand side that I can combine with the Control key for shortcuts - especially handy for a left-handed-mouser-mouse-user (only one mouser around here I guess)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on August 15, 2009, 03:44 PM
hey! I thought all dc members loved finding obscure little programmes to make this kind of thing easier!

- we have plenty of the kind, buried inside the Snack thread (which needs a cleaning!).
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on August 15, 2009, 04:06 PM
- two 3:
https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=14604.0
https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=11926.0
http://easyunicodepaster.wikidot.com/
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on August 15, 2009, 08:10 PM
People who seem to think that by turning on my blinker I am telling them to "Speed up"


ARGH!!!!!!!!!    :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

Oops, I forgot to mention to Josh - if anyone's trying to switch lanes, it's a violation to keep them from doing so.
At least in California.

SO many people do this that I believe it is actually unintentional with some folks. It's as if when some people realize that someone else is passing them, they think, "Oh, I must have slowed down too much... let me pick up the pace." It just happens with far too many people to be spiteful. Or maybe I am giving too much credit where it ain't due?

Jim

I only see this when I change lanes to get away from them. If they speed up while you're clearly trying to go in front of them, then they're not only rude, but they're creating a major safety hazard.

I seem to encounter this when most often when I'm trying to get out of an 'exit only' lane on the freeway.
After having been forced off my path a couple of times, I refuse to be bullied on the freeway. If there are too many cars behind the offending driver for me to wait & get in behind him/her, I'll signal, give them a few seconds, then slowly start to get over. They can move it or lose it. I know this is dangerous, but golly, go figure - they always manage to find it in their hearts to let me in.  ;)

I run as many errands as possible at night. It's just too frustrating here in the daytime; there's an idiot in every lane. It's virtually impossible to escape them. At least at night, you can go around them. The Silicon Valley has, without a doubt, the most unaware, rude, reckless and in general, unskilled drivers in the country. Period.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on August 15, 2009, 11:46 PM
People who seem to think that by turning on my blinker I am telling them to "Speed up"


ARGH!!!!!!!!!    :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

Oops, I forgot to mention to Josh - if anyone's trying to switch lanes, it's a violation to keep them from doing so.
At least in California.

SO many people do this that I believe it is actually unintentional with some folks. It's as if when some people realize that someone else is passing them, they think, "Oh, I must have slowed down too much... let me pick up the pace." It just happens with far too many people to be spiteful. Or maybe I am giving too much credit where it ain't due?

Jim

I only see this when I change lanes to get away from them. If they speed up while you're clearly trying to go in front of them, then they're not only rude, but they're creating a major safety hazard.

I seem to encounter this when most often when I'm trying to get out of an 'exit only' lane on the freeway.
After having been forced off my path a couple of times, I refuse to be bullied on the freeway. If there are too many cars behind the offending driver for me to wait & get in behind him/her, I'll signal, give them a few seconds, then slowly start to get over. They can move it or lose it. I know this is dangerous, but golly, go figure - they always manage to find it in their hearts to let me in.  ;)

I run as many errands as possible at night. It's just too frustrating here in the daytime; there's an idiot in every lane. It's virtually impossible to escape them. At least at night, you can go around them. The Silicon Valley has, without a doubt, the most unaware, rude, reckless and in general, unskilled drivers in the country. Period.

Sarah, I think - well, I am almost certain - that I was a much more aggressive driver when I was younger. Now? Not so aggressive anymore. Lost my nerve? I don't think so. It is just that nowadays when I try to remember what I was in such a hurry about years ago, I realize that most of the time I wasn't really in a hurry at all. But when I was younger any other driver's inconsiderate or rude action toward me was taken as a challenge; a gauntlet thrown toward me, so to speak.

What an ass I was! I'm sure that I acted quite recklessly and just plain stupid, putting myself and others at risk by driving "competitively" for no other reason than pure pseudo-macho bulls***.

Hopefully we all get away from that kind of goofiness in time.  :)

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on August 15, 2009, 11:48 PM
But not all of those kiddies have the patience to memorize ASCII or fire up charmap! 

You are right; I forgot that an American keyboard is different from mine. On my Danish keyboard the "¨" is the last bütton before "Enter"!

Unfortunately I am guilty of the same. Unless I have the ASCII code for the character memorized it just gets the letter typed without anything added to modify it. Very much a PITA to type those characters regularly on a standard US keyboard.

hey! I thought all dc members loved finding obscure little programmes to make this kind of thing easier!

I have to say I love having a german keyboard - I have three extra characters (üöä) on the right-hand side that I can combine with the Control key for shortcuts - especially handy for a left-handed-mouser-mouse-user (only one mouser around here I guess)

You know, I never even looked for such a utility - mainly because I rarely correspond with people who speak languages that use such characters. No excuse, I guess. It would be good to have such an app. I'll go check out the links I see posted now.   8)

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on August 16, 2009, 04:18 AM
You know, I never even looked for such a utility - mainly because I rarely correspond with people who speak languages that use such characters. No excuse, I guess. It would be good to have such an app. I'll go check out the links I see posted now.   8)

hey, I was only kidding Jim :) mind you there is a FARR plugin (Character table - in FARR type cc) that gets you lots of exotic characters, but funny enough doesnt show any vowels with umlauts here (maybe cause I already have them on my keyboard)

Anyways we're going well off the annoyed topic here ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on August 19, 2009, 05:33 PM
Operating Systems  >:(

The more I come to love and subsequently depend on Linux, the more warts I see.
Then again, I (ab)use Windows every day at work and it's got warts a-plenty.
I haven't had a chance to check out Mac OSX, but I do read the reviews and opinions when I have the time and apparently it's got warts too.
Shiny, plastic ones.

For all the smart guys cranking out the silicon oatmeal worldwide you'd think we'd have this one licked by now...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on August 19, 2009, 10:14 PM
Operating Systems  >:(

+1 on that. Almost as annoying as applications. ;D

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Whereismyangel on August 20, 2009, 05:15 AM
Search fields in forums that doesn't allow me to make a search on a specific term because "it's too common" or "not specific enough" !!!!! >:( >:( >:(

And so what ?!! If I want make a search in google with the word "test", i can !!! Why not in a forum ? it's my problem what I'm looking for !!

Grrrrrr....; ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: app103 on August 20, 2009, 05:21 AM
And so what ?!! If I want make a search in google with the word "test", i can !!! Why not in a forum ? it's my problem what I'm looking for !!
-Whereismyangel (August 20, 2009, 05:15 AM)

That isn't an issue on this forum. You can search for "test" (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?action=search2&search=test) and get results.

The main reason why you can't search for very common words is because there would be so many results that it would overwork the server and probably bring the forum to its knees. If you want the forum to stay online, there has to be some limits in place to ensure that a simple search doesn't kill the site.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on August 20, 2009, 07:28 AM
Maybe I've complained about these already:

1. search on forum boards with results not linking to posts where the phrase occurs but to main thread instead.

There is nothing better like browsing through 100-pager ;)

2. software support boards with no possibilities to search for files extensions (three letters are not long enough).

How, the hell, can I find anything ANI or CUR related on XnView forum without that? No one uses full format name.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: tomos on August 20, 2009, 04:17 PM
well I was searching for a particular windows 7 thread here lately

Each word must be at least two characters long.


should really report it /make a request elsewhere . . it's on my todo list FWIW . .  :-\

of course it works if you put it so "Windows 7"  :-[ lol
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on August 25, 2009, 12:40 PM
"Rename" and "Delete" right next to each other in the context menu.
 :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on December 04, 2009, 06:33 AM
Companies who claim a product is "free" when they mean "Free with severe limitations...aka crippleware".
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on December 04, 2009, 07:56 AM
Companies who claim a product is "free" when they mean "Free with severe limitations...aka crippleware".

Or plaster "free download" all over their website and on shareware sites when what they mean is that you can download a time-limitied trial version  >:(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on December 04, 2009, 08:08 AM
Overly obvious Customer Greeters at major retail and 'big box' electronic stores.

Pleased to meet you Ms. Fang! I'm not here to shoplift today. And I already know what I'm looking for. So could you possibly step aside and let me get on with it? Pretty-please? (BTW. That's some collection of tats you got there Miss. What? Ohreally? You have more?)

 ;D

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on December 04, 2009, 08:10 AM
I never did understand why at places like Sams Club or BJs wholesale they check your receipt on the way out when you have 45 items in the cart. It is not like they are checking each item against the receipt. COME ON, Really? You have to waste my time?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on December 04, 2009, 08:16 AM
I never did understand why at places like Sams Club or BJs wholesale they check your receipt on the way out when you have 45 items in the cart. It is not like they are checking each item against the receipt. COME ON, Really? You have to waste my time?

Heh, heh - good one! I've ofen wondered about this myself  ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on December 04, 2009, 09:31 AM
at places like Sams Club or BJs wholesale they check your receipt on the way out when you have 45 items in the cart. It is not like they are checking each item against the receipt. COME ON, Really?
I fooled 'em. Bought 2 items, showed the receipt, ran off with the shopping buggy.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on December 04, 2009, 10:00 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: rgdot on December 04, 2009, 10:52 AM
I fooled 'em. Bought 2 items, showed the receipt, ran off with the shopping buggy.
-cranioscopical (December 04, 2009, 09:31 AM)

 ;D ;D

 :up:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nosh on December 04, 2009, 12:46 PM
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Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: mouser on December 04, 2009, 04:10 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on December 05, 2009, 08:57 AM
Television and movie studios that feel they have to start advertising their new movie or TV series *FOUR* months in advance.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on December 05, 2009, 09:04 AM
Christmas... when it starts in October!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on December 05, 2009, 02:31 PM
Christmas... when it starts in October!
-cranioscopical (December 05, 2009, 09:04 AM)

Soon it will be starting the day after Easter. (he said only half-serious)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on December 05, 2009, 03:37 PM
Christmas... when it starts in October!
-cranioscopical (December 05, 2009, 09:04 AM)

Soon it will be starting the day after Easter. (he said only half-serious)
Any sooner would have lent no credence to that comment  ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on December 06, 2009, 02:14 AM
When the whole country revolves around the 2010 Soccer!

If you're coming here, be warned - The Gautrain (High speed train from Pretoria to Jo'burg won't be ready. The planned fancy Bus Service in Cape Town has fallen through as some bright spark made a 2 Billion Rand miscalculation and the 'workers' building the Stadia are always striking!!

Not to mention our Electricity crisis...... :o

And here's why...

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Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on December 06, 2009, 04:42 PM
- your electricity seems to be steady..., or is it Crisis, jumping?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on December 06, 2009, 07:37 PM
Office thieves.

I've lost my DC mug not so long ago and I wonder what is the main cause of people behaving such way.

In many cases, stolen things are not expensive at all but it still wonders me: is it some kind of very strange cleptomania to take office equipment (like paper clips, notebooks, …, mugs) or food from refrigerators, or what?

I think I will never understand that not so many people seem to care about. My colleagues just accepted scenario that their goods may disappear someday.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on December 06, 2009, 09:15 PM
I think I will never understand that not so many people seem to care about. My colleges just accepted scenario that their goods may disappear someday.
-fenixproductions (December 06, 2009, 07:37 PM)

fenix, while your English is normally outstanding, I think the word you were looking for was colleagues. :)

But to address your post, I cannot imagine anybody stealing a 'used' mug from someone they hardly know. Yuck!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on December 06, 2009, 09:49 PM
I cannot imagine anybody stealing a 'used' mug from someone they hardly know. Yuck!

Ditto  :tellme:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on December 07, 2009, 12:11 AM
fenix, while your English is normally outstanding, I think the word you were looking for was colleagues. :)
Fixed. Thanks.

But to address your post, I cannot imagine anybody stealing a 'used' mug from someone they hardly know. Yuck!
Not really "used".

I have another mug which I like and DC one was a gift, so I didn't want to use it too often: 2-3 times filled with something but staying on shelf for the most of the rest of the time. The only way to change it - I was thinking - is to bring it to work. And that was a failure.

P.S. "for the most of the rest of the time" <- is it still English or articles overdose?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on December 07, 2009, 12:33 AM
For most of the time.... ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on December 07, 2009, 12:34 AM
- your electricity seems to be steady..., or is it Crisis, jumping?


It's taking time out! And we are going to be charged 35% more each year for the next 3 years....  >:(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on December 08, 2009, 04:24 PM
And we are going to be charged 35% more each year for the next 3 years
It's shocking that they would socket to you in that way!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: superboyac on December 08, 2009, 04:32 PM
What doesn't annoy me?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on December 08, 2009, 07:10 PM
What doesn't annoy me?

How about the picture of that 'girl with the basket' I posted in response to your leather messenger bag question? :P

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: superboyac on December 08, 2009, 08:49 PM
What doesn't annoy me?

How about the picture of that 'girl with the basket' I posted in response to your leather messenger bag question? :P
He he...yeah, you got me there.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on December 09, 2009, 10:14 AM
Stupid hacks when decent coding would do far better.
Imagemagick, for example.
I was trying to resize some things and I needed them resized proportionately.
I couldn't find out anywhere in the documentation where I might find out how to give the 'convert' or 'mogrify' command only one dimension in either direction and have it keep the aspect ratio.
Google gave me the answer, but not one I was expecting... (http://www.grotto11.com/blog/archive/1060372029.shtml)
Some years ago, I upgraded ImageMagick, only to find that all my server-side code-- which automatically generated thumbnails from uploaded images-- had started spewing all over itself, chewing up CPU, and creating some of the most hideously deformed thumbnail images ever. See, I was used to using the following command:

# mogrify -geometry 60x999 blah.s.jpg

...to scale the thumbnail proportionally to 60 pixels wide, with the height being whatever is consistent with the same aspect ratio and 60 pixels wide. A 600x400 picture would become a 60x40 thumbnail. The "999" was a special key number, you see-- it told ImageMagick to scale proportionally. Apparently they'd never bothered to code a proper option for only specifying one dimension, so this hack was the best they could do.

So I upgraded, and found that my thumnails were now... 60 pixels wide, and 999 pixels tall. They'd removed the special handling.

Now I use "9999" for that command. It's still an awful hack, but at least it isn't chewing up my CPU as it tries to blow everything up to a thousand vertical pixels every time someone uploads something. At least, until they change something else and I have to make it "99999".
:-\
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on December 09, 2009, 11:10 AM
AT&T's ongoing refusal to support Thunderbird as a mail client.

About once or twice a month, T-Bird's outbound mail starts throwing all kinds of connection or authentication errors when attempting to use AT&T's SMTP servers. This has been going on ever since AT&T teamed up with Yahoo and forced its customers to switch over to the servers at att.yahoo.com. Their old servers (smtp.snet.net, smtp.sbcglobal.net, etc.) used to work just fine. How's that for progress?

Calls to tech support result in nothing other than a suggestion to use Outlook or Outlook Express since "we're sorry, but AT&T does not support Mozilla Thunderbird at this time..." yadda-yadda-yadda.

Oddly enough, AT&T's SMTP usually starts working again without without the need to change anything in Thunderbird after a day or two of refusals to connect.

Drives me absolutely nuts. >:(

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on December 09, 2009, 02:50 PM
Christmas... when it starts in October!
-cranioscopical (December 05, 2009, 09:04 AM)

And along with that, Valentine's Day (always) but especially when it starts January 2nd.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on December 09, 2009, 04:08 PM
Valentine's Day
You heartless devil!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on December 09, 2009, 04:17 PM
People in a cube farm that insist on using the speakerphone on calls.  >:(

(posted as I sit here distracted from my coding by someone that shares my cube on the speakerphone with one(!) person... not even a conference call!)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: JavaJones on December 09, 2009, 04:30 PM
Employees who make things harder than they have to be.

No, I didn't ask you to do overtime and I'm not going to feel bad that you took it upon yourself to work extra hours because you "thought it was necessary and "had too much work to do".

No you can't choose which duties you'll handle and which are "not IT" - do they job we ask you to do and pay you for, or don't and we'll find someone else.

Sheesh!

- Oshyan
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on December 09, 2009, 05:41 PM
It's taking time out! And we are going to be charged 35% more each year for the next 3 years....  >:(

Oh? Are they telling you it is only going to be three years? I bet as they get close to the end of year 3 something will happen and the deadline will either be extended or they'll just make that the permanent price. :(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on December 09, 2009, 05:49 PM
People on forums who feel they need to reply to every single post in every single thread. Or in a similar instance, people who reply to every post in a post they initiate even when their input is not required.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on December 09, 2009, 06:04 PM
People on forums who feel they need to reply to every single post in every single thread. Or in a similar instance, people who reply to every post in a post they initiate even when their input is not required.

+1 with Josh!!! :P

(Sorry. I couldn't resist.  ;D )

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on December 09, 2009, 09:23 PM
People on forums who feel they need to reply to every single post in every single thread. Or in a similar instance, people who reply to every post in a post they initiate even when their input is not required.

I don't feel the need to post in every thread, but most of the time I will reply to posts if I initiated the thread. I usually ask for advice or assistance, and if someone gives it, I feel I should thank them - whether Josh is annoyed by that or not!!   :P   :P   :P

Jim   ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on December 10, 2009, 01:20 AM
It's taking time out! And we are going to be charged 35% more each year for the next 3 years....  >:(

Oh? Are they telling you it is only going to be three years? I bet as they get close to the end of year 3 something will happen and the deadline will either be extended or they'll just make that the permanent price. :(

Actually they told us we have cheap electricity! So it's a way of pushing up the cost and there will still be tariff increases after that.. >:(

We are always be told the conserve energy - then they light up all the major cities with Xmas lights! Cheek... :down:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on December 10, 2009, 04:28 PM
People on forums who feel they need to reply to every single post in every single thread. Or in a similar instance, people who reply to every post in a post they initiate even when their input is not required.

I don't feel the need to post in every thread, but most of the time I will reply to posts if I initiated the thread. I usually ask for advice or assistance, and if someone gives it, I feel I should thank them - whether Josh is annoyed by that or not!!   :P   :P   :P

Jim   ;D

Nope, I am annoyed at the people who feel they must reply to each and every post made in a thread they start, even if other people are having a conversation about something unrelated to the original topic.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on December 10, 2009, 05:12 PM
OK, you sound much too somber in that last post, Josh. I tried to include enough smileys to make it clear I was just..... joshin' with you!

(Pun intended!)  :)

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on December 10, 2009, 05:50 PM
And I did that to inspire you to post again to ANNOY ME! ;-)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on January 04, 2010, 02:07 PM
Install programs that DO NOT put an uninstall link in the start menu!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on January 04, 2010, 02:09 PM
Install programs that DO NOT put an uninstall link in the start menu!
Amen to that - or, well, I can live without uninstall links in the start menu as long as the program appears under add/remove programs. Samarost is an example of something that did neither... of course you only have to delete it's files to uninstall since it's flash based, but when it comes with an installer and not just a zip... this feels wrong.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on January 04, 2010, 03:31 PM
I thought since the addition of Add/Remove Programs (now called Programs and Features) to Windows Microsoft has discouraged the placement of an uninstall link in the Start Menu stating that it would be better placed in Add/Remove Programs.

Regardless, I'd much rather deal with programs that added links to Add/Remove Programs and not to the Start Menu than the other way around. Daemon Tools is like this. It adds an uninstall link to the Start Menu, but nothing is to be found in Add/Remove Programs.

Sometimes I uninstall a bunch of programs en masse & having everything in one menu is handy rather than having to dig through the Start Menu for each program.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on January 04, 2010, 04:21 PM
The version of daemon tools I just installed adds an entry in programs and features in Win7 x64 and x86.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 4wd on January 05, 2010, 04:32 AM
The version of daemon tools I just installed adds an entry in programs and features in Win7 x64 and x86.

I think Daemon Tools try to avoid putting to easily recognisable files/links on the computer to try and avoid the continual blacklisting efforts of SecuROM and SafeDisc.

The latest version of Pro Advanced didn't put anything into Programs and Features on W7HP here.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on January 17, 2010, 12:20 AM
people who type without any sense of grammar, punctuation, proper capitalization, etc. I realize the internet has made people lazy, as has auto-correcting word processors, but that is no excuse for not adhereing to certain basic standards such as capitalizing the letter of a sentence or using apostrophes correctly, etc. I dont consider myself a grammar nazi but I do expect that people show some sort of intelligence when writing papers, posting to a forum, etc.

I realize i omitted most of that in my post, it was done ironically.
-Side Note
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Innuendo on January 17, 2010, 11:12 AM
How about 17 page long threads filled with nothing but people griping? :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on January 17, 2010, 11:50 AM
How about 17 page long threads filled with nothing but people griping? :)

(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/5Large/TFR1E0.gif)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on January 17, 2010, 05:44 PM
...but I do expect that people show some sort of intelligence...

Well, you may as well lower your expectations. Most people are lazy.
Standards for writing seemed to have dropped considerably over the past few years.
Even CNN & MSNBC are guilty of this, but no one seems to care.

As long as it's not being pointed out to writers, it will just become more and more accepted.
I think Carol has described this before as, 'entropy'.

Personally, grammar & punctuation errors only bother me if I sense that a post is inconsiderate to the reader, in general.
Infrequent errors are inevitable, but lack of structure, rambling, etc., are signs of thoughtlessness IMO.
It's the writer's job - not the reader's - to make a post or article understandable.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on January 17, 2010, 05:56 PM
- always a pleasure to read your posts, Sarah :-)

--

I can add that it annoys me to no end when a program offers to 'import' my audio files, but without any warning then starts re-writing the tags! (J. River Media Center 14).

Also, I was annoyed, (but hardly to no end), when I politely requested a feature for my R-Drive backup program and was told that  I have had a trial period; end of story!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Target on January 17, 2010, 06:23 PM
As long as it's not being pointed out to writers, it will just become more and more accepted.
I think Carol has described this before as, 'entropy'.

Personally I think atrophy might be closer than entropy :P

Personally, grammar & punctuation errors only bother me if I sense that a post is inconsiderate to the reader, in general.
Infrequent errors are inevitable, but lack of structure, rambling, etc., are signs of thoughtlessness IMO.
It's the writer's job - not the reader's - to make a post or article understandable.

agreed, but lets put it in context - poor grammar and/or spelling may be inevitable and accepted in a personal blog or web page, but they are unforgivable in text produced by professional writers.   

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on January 17, 2010, 08:43 PM
I think atrophy might be closer than entropy.
I would award you a trophy but it might be wasted were you to decline.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Target on January 17, 2010, 08:46 PM
I think atrophy might be closer than entropy.
I would award you a trophy but it might be wasted were you to decline.
-cranioscopical (January 17, 2010, 08:43 PM)

it can only go downhill from here...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on January 17, 2010, 08:48 PM
I think atrophy might be closer than entropy.
I would award you a trophy but it might be wasted were you to decline.
-cranioscopical (January 17, 2010, 08:43 PM)

it can only go downhill from here...

Another universal truth!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Target on January 17, 2010, 10:10 PM
I think atrophy might be closer than entropy.
I would award you a trophy but it might be wasted were you to decline.
-cranioscopical (January 17, 2010, 08:43 PM)

it can only go downhill from here...

Another universal truth!
-cranioscopical (January 17, 2010, 08:48 PM)

unfortunately I have no response to this (I'm paralysed!!)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: SKesselman on January 18, 2010, 01:08 AM
- always a pleasure to read your posts, Sarah :-)

 :) :) :) Thanks, Curt!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on January 18, 2010, 06:59 AM
I think atrophy might be closer than entropy.
I would award you a trophy but it might be wasted were you to decline.
-cranioscopical (January 17, 2010, 08:43 PM)

it can only go downhill from here...
Another universal truth!
-cranioscopical (January 17, 2010, 08:48 PM)
unfortunately I have no response to this (I'm paralysed!!)

- ehh... where in the universe is that point from where it can only go downhill?


a universal north-pole?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on January 18, 2010, 05:21 PM
I'm paralysed!!
Not another disorder!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on January 18, 2010, 05:24 PM
a universal north-pole?
Yet another of Target's theories goes south!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Target on January 18, 2010, 05:50 PM
a universal north-pole?
Yet another of Target's theories goes south!
-cranioscopical (January 18, 2010, 05:24 PM)

sadly, there's a pattern emerging here...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on January 18, 2010, 05:59 PM
a universal north-pole?
Yet another of Target's theories goes south!
-cranioscopical (January 18, 2010, 05:24 PM)
sadly, there's a pattern emerging here...

- do you mean, south is becoming north, or the poles are e.. merging?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Target on January 18, 2010, 06:04 PM
- do you mean, south is becoming north, or the poles are e.. merging?

i can't be positive
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on January 18, 2010, 10:52 PM
- do you mean, south is becoming north, or the poles are e.. merging?

i can't be positive
Another wise Krakow yours?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Target on January 18, 2010, 11:08 PM
Another wise Krakow yours?
-cranioscopical (January 18, 2010, 10:52 PM)

wise?

unlikely...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on March 02, 2010, 08:23 AM
People who call me "Buddy" or some other "Friendly" term when I am none of the above to them!

Quote South Park
"I am not your buddy, Guy"
"I am not your Guy, Friend"
"I am not your friend, Pal"
"I am not your Pal, Buddy"
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: superboyac on March 02, 2010, 08:26 AM

Quote South Park
"I am not your buddy, Guy"
"I am not your Guy, Friend"
"I am not your friend, Pal"
"I am not your Pal, Buddy"
I love that episode.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on March 02, 2010, 10:58 PM
iPhones!  >:(


Especially now that I own one!

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: f0dder on March 03, 2010, 01:40 AM
iPhones!  >:(
:up:

Especially now that I own one!
:down:

...:)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on March 03, 2010, 02:51 AM
iPhones!  >:(
:up:

Especially now that I own one!
:down:

...:)

I couldn't agree more. ;D

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: app103 on March 03, 2010, 05:19 AM
People that forward crap to everyone in their addressbook and have no clue what BCC is or why they should use it.  >:(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on March 03, 2010, 05:45 AM
People who promise they will send something that belongs to a larger group of people only to keep giving excuses

*cough* BABY CODY *cough*

;-) We all love you app103!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on March 03, 2010, 11:53 PM
People that forward crap to everyone in their addressbook and have no clue what BCC is or why they should use it.  >:(

I wholeheartedly second that and have given my friends numerous hints to no avail!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: app103 on March 04, 2010, 10:28 AM
People who promise they will send something that belongs to a larger group of people only to keep giving excuses

*cough* BABY CODY *cough*

;-) We all love you app103!

Baby Cody said one of the first things he learned as a tiny hatchling was that you are supposed to fly south for the winter, and if you don't and find yourself stuck in the north with all the snow and cold weather, seek shelter till March, which is when spring begins.

Now that March is here, Baby Cody has continued his travels around the world, although he regrets not being able to stick around to see the cherry trees all in bloom here, next month.

So, Josh, he's on his way and he has a big chunk of metal to smack you in the head with. (better hide your wallet before he gets there  :P)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: app103 on March 04, 2010, 10:34 AM
People that forward crap to everyone in their addressbook and have no clue what BCC is or why they should use it.  >:(

I wholeheartedly second that and have given my friends numerous hints to no avail!

I must be much more effective at explaining it, since once I do, I don't get that type of forwards with a millon email addresses on it any more...and in some cases, they even stop forwarding me crap, out of fear I will mark their mail as spam, revoking their privilege to send me anything, even important stuff.

I just can't stand having to send out that canned response + threat to people I know and generally like.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on March 04, 2010, 12:17 PM
I just can't stand having to send out that canned response + threat to people I know and generally like.

Oooh... maybe you should post it if it's so effective so that we can use it?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on March 04, 2010, 03:41 PM
The use of the term "pie hole" or "piehole" when referring to someone's mouth as in: "Shut yer pie hole!" or "Shove it down their pie holes."

Don't know where it originated (maybe a movie or TV series?) but I'm running into it more and more frequently in blogs and web forums.

I don't know what it is about that expression, but it absolutely sets my teeth on edge.

Then again, maybe that's the whole idea behind using a phrase like that in the first place isn't it?

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on March 04, 2010, 04:50 PM
"Shut yer pie hole!"
Alright, then why don't you seal your cucumber-sandwich orifice, vicar?  :)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on March 04, 2010, 05:16 PM
cucumber-sandwich orifice
-cranioscopical (March 04, 2010, 04:50 PM)

I actually like that one!

Thanks Mr. C. You always make me laugh. :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on March 04, 2010, 05:24 PM
Parents that abuse the fact that their children, or child, knows quite a bit about computers, technology, and most things electronic. I was supposed to be asleep 3 hours ago but I just finished helping my dad troubleshoot XP mode because his office loaded Win7 x64 on his laptop not thinking that their VPN client doesn't support 64 bit systems!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on March 04, 2010, 07:08 PM
@Josh:

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With thanks to www.toothpastefordinner.com
8)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on March 04, 2010, 07:29 PM
40hz - that cartoon is AWESOME! I love the look on the guy's face...

 :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Curt on March 05, 2010, 08:11 AM
having severe problems right now, I am more thinking, "are you going to be a victim, or can you fix my computer?"!!!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: nosh on March 11, 2010, 10:52 PM
Crap movies starting off with glowing reviews and ridiculously high ratings on IMDB, thanks to the tossers who formed the cast/crew.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: RedPillow on March 15, 2010, 12:59 PM
When I was on-the-job learning, every single time one old man came and asked me "Where are the pervert parts of the chickens?"
And every time I was like what the f is he talking about and said that I don`t know.
On the last day, he explained that he wanted chicken-eggs, couldn`t he just say so?
This was an actual happening of mine :]

On the other hand - It`s great to see other peoples faces now, when I walk into a shop and ask for pervert parts of a chicken!  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on March 15, 2010, 04:39 PM
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Stale tea.

Why can you get a great cup of coffee 'to go' in so many places, but not a decent cup of tea. Your average gas station or convenience store can even manage to set you up with perfectly drinkable coffee these days.

I sometimes think these people buy their tea in bulk and then dole it out a cup at a time over the next ten years to be able to sell you a "cuppa" as bad as most do.



Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: zridling on March 15, 2010, 08:58 PM
Kids who say "like" in every sentence. I want to stab my ears with pencils.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on March 15, 2010, 10:09 PM
People with pencils sticking out of their ears!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on March 15, 2010, 11:19 PM
Kids who say "like" in every sentence. I want to stab my ears with pencils.
People with pencils sticking out of their ears!
-cranioscopical (March 15, 2010, 10:09 PM)

 ;D

Have to agree with Zaine, though. I can't stand hearing "like' in every sentence, either.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Deozaan on March 17, 2010, 10:52 PM
Kids who say "like" in every sentence. I want to stab my ears with pencils.
Have to agree with Zaine, though. I can't stand hearing "like' in every sentence, either.

I remember looking at a note one of my classmates was writing and what bothered me was that her writing was just like her speech. In pencil: "So, like, I was wondering, like, what was up with, like, that?" I may say things frequently that I don't consciously realize, but when I'm writing I know to leave those things out.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 17, 2010, 08:33 PM
Developers which decide that:

A. think their application MUST launch at system startup, regardless of the option I choose during installation
B. choose to create a start menu folder which contains the VERSION number without deleting or detecting previous versions thus resulting in APP V1.0, APP V1.1, APP V1.110, APP V1.2, etc in the start menu.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on May 17, 2010, 09:24 PM
Developers which decide that:

A. think their application MUST launch at system startup, regardless of the option I choose during installation
B. choose to create a start menu folder which contains the VERSION number without deleting or detecting previous versions thus resulting in APP V1.0, APP V1.1, APP V1.110, APP V1.2, etc in the start menu.

No to mention developers who insist on naming their company something entirely unrelated to their - or any - software and then using that name in the installer pkg. Which ultimately results in you looking for APP V1.0 and finally finding it in C:\Program Files\Pepito's Pizza Factory and Software Inc\.

C'mon! Get off the high stinking horse and just use the software app's name!

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on May 18, 2010, 08:28 AM
Developers which decide that:

A. think their application MUST launch at system startup, regardless of the option I choose during installation
B. choose to create a start menu folder which contains the VERSION number without deleting or detecting previous versions thus resulting in APP V1.0, APP V1.1, APP V1.110, APP V1.2, etc in the start menu.

No to mention developers who insist on naming their company something entirely unrelated to their - or any - software and then using that name in the installer pkg. Which ultimately results in you looking for APP V1.0 and finally finding it in C:\Program Files\Pepito's Pizza Factory and Software Inc\.

C'mon! Get off the high stinking horse and just use the software app's name!

Jim

Not really the developer's fault.  Unless they're very intimate with installshield, it will automagically make the path C:\Program Files\Company Name\Software Name.  Put blame where it's due- InstallShield.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 18, 2010, 09:48 AM
Blame installshield because a developer doesn't learn to use a tool they are choosing to use? What sense does that make? When I played with installshield some 3 years ago, as a very novice developer, I found that option in a matter of 15 minutes.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on May 18, 2010, 11:13 AM
Blame installshield because a developer doesn't learn to use a tool they are choosing to use? What sense does that make? When I played with installshield some 3 years ago, as a very novice developer, I found that option in a matter of 15 minutes.

The thing is, it's a default option, so in general it stays that way.  Why does installshield make that the default?  If you're a developer trying to get something out, you'll use the default options.  It makes sense to me, as I've never understood why it defaults to company name\product name.  Other installers don't do it, so why does installshield feel the need to?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on May 18, 2010, 12:46 PM
On a related note - software products that provide the option to download the installer as either an EXE or a ZIP file - but where the ZIP file contains nothing but the same EXE file.

Umm...there's a thing called broadband, guys! Shaving 48K off a 3MB EXE file by zipping it is hardly worth the effort anymore.

 :P

Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: superboyac on May 18, 2010, 12:54 PM
On a related note - software products that provide the option to download the installer as either an EXE or a ZIP file - but where the ZIP file contains nothing but the same EXE file.

Umm...there's a thing called broadband, guys! Shaving 48K off a 3MB EXE file by zipping it is hardly worth the effort anymore.

 :P
Ha!  Seriously...goes back to what I once said about installers for the tiny, little 500k software saying "Please wait, this may take a few minutes."  I don't it has ever taken even a minute...even back on my 486 machine.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on May 18, 2010, 01:12 PM
Soo... a software developer can create a program that we trust to run on our computers but he/she cannot figure out how to make the installer work? Hmm... Makes one wonder...   :-\

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on May 18, 2010, 01:23 PM
Soo... a software developer can create a program that we trust to run on our computers but he/she cannot figure out how to make the installer work? Hmm... Makes one wonder...   :-\

Jim

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on May 18, 2010, 02:06 PM
Soo... a software developer can create a program that we trust to run on our computers but he/she cannot figure out how to make the installer work? Hmm... Makes one wonder...   :-\

Jim

My thoughts exactly.

I'm not talking about cannot figure out.  I'm talking about default settings.  If you are just cranking out an installer (especially with installshield), you simply take the default settings and put in the information you need to, and add the files.  But I suppose it's an area where we'll have to agree to disagree.  It used to be the new Microsoft standard to put company name/software name.  Over the years since Windows 95 first premiered, installations have gotten away from that standard- partially because customers didn't like it, especially for one product companies.  If one installer company still sticks to an outdated standard, it seems like they should be the one to take the brunt of the blame.  If you use the IS wizard, this setting will never come up.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on May 18, 2010, 02:11 PM
wraith, I posted this as MY annoyance; why are you soo annoyed by my annoyance that you find it necessary to post your own annoyance with my annoyance here in the Annoyance thread?  (Let's see someone diagram THAT sentence!)

I don’t see other folks counter-posting against other members' annoyances! This is my own personal, petty, seething annoyance! Let it be already!!   :P :P

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: JavaJones on May 18, 2010, 02:53 PM
I'm going to trump you both, I'm annoyed by InstallSheild *and* by company-name-in-start-menu/app-install-location-folder. Simultaneously! Even though I (now) know that this is due to a default option in Installshield (which only increases my annoyance with it, but I assure you I was annoyed with it prior :D).

So there! ;)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on May 18, 2010, 03:22 PM
wraith, I posted this as MY annoyance; why are you soo annoyed by my annoyance that you find it necessary to post your own annoyance with my annoyance here in the Annoyance thread?  (Let's see someone diagram THAT sentence!)

I don’t see other folks counter-posting against other members' annoyances! This is my own personal, petty, seething annoyance! Let it be already!!   :P :P

Jim

Ok... my annoyance is with annoyances that are others annoyances that are not aimed at the root of the annoyance but actually another source that gets away with creating annoyances that no one really knows are they annoyance creator.

There! :P :P

(Really, I have the same annoyance, which causes me to re-arrange my program files to get around it or choose to change the default install directory.  And on that note- I'm also annoyed with people installing to the start menu in the same way!  And *both* are the root of installshield being the default windows installer!)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Eóin on May 18, 2010, 04:09 PM
My pet annoyance: People who jump to a conclusion about why someone or something is the way they/it are, and then they proceed to go and judge or get annoyed over that reasoning even though it never existed outside of their own minds.

[edit] And my pet annoyance 2: Everyone suffering from Morton’s Demon (http://home.entouch.net/dmd/mortonsdemon.htm).
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on May 18, 2010, 05:27 PM
My pet annoyance: People who jump to a conclusion about why someone or something is the way they/it are, and then they proceed to go and judge or get annoyed over that reasoning even though it never existed outside of their own minds.

[edit] And my pet annoyance 2: Everyone suffering from Morton’s Demon (http://home.entouch.net/dmd/mortonsdemon.htm).



Just give them a copy of this article and call them in the morning:

Cognitive Biases - A Visual Study Guide by the Royal Society of Account Planning

Link: http://www.scribd.com/documents/30548590/Cognitive-Biases-A-Visual-Study-Guide-by-the-Royal-Society-of-Account-Planning#


With thanks to Lifehacker.com for the find.

Link: http://lifehacker.com/5541533/illustrated-guide-explains-your-minds-decision-biases?skyline=true&s=i

You make decisions every day based on false assumptions about other people, immediate pay-offs, your memory versus imagination, and familiarity versus fondness, just to name a few. Want to learn more about your mind's crazy decision engine? This illustrated guide can help.

This multi-page illustrated treatise on cognitive biases, hosted at Scribd and embedded below, does a fantastic job of translating the stuff of college textbooks and all-too-brief Wikipedia explanations into lunch break reading. Digging through it might make you afraid of how your mind works, or send you on a journey to think a bit more about how you arrive at what you decide.

 :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Eóin on May 19, 2010, 07:09 AM
Thanks 40hz, excellent reading. And of course it kinda makes me realize how guilty I am of those things myself. Though I'm sure I don't really consider myself half as guilty of them as I actually am :D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: IainB on May 19, 2010, 09:51 AM
@40hz: Yes, thanks for the reading/links.      :up:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on May 21, 2010, 05:43 AM
When potentially interesting articles get pulled because somebody "expresses concern".
re: the above-referenced article.
Hello Everyone,
A big thank you for all the interest in this study guide. It was
originally created as a fun introduction that took the Cognitive
Bias wiki and tried to make it easier to memorize.
However, the authors of the wiki article have expressed some
concern over the accuracy of certain entries. The document is
being taken down for the time being until that can be
corrected. Thank you for your interest.
Sincere apologies for any troubles this caused!
Eric

:huh: :(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Renegade on May 21, 2010, 06:33 AM
Not sure if it's been said in this thread, but I'm sure it warrants repeating anyways...  ;)

Programs that steal focus! Pure evil!  >:(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: J-Mac on May 21, 2010, 11:23 AM
When potentially interesting articles get pulled because somebody "expresses concern".
re: the above-referenced article.
Hello Everyone,
A big thank you for all the interest in this study guide. It was
originally created as a fun introduction that took the Cognitive
Bias wiki and tried to make it easier to memorize.
However, the authors of the wiki article have expressed some
concern over the accuracy of certain entries. The document is
being taken down for the time being until that can be
corrected. Thank you for your interest.
Sincere apologies for any troubles this caused!
Eric

:huh: :(

I "bolded" the line in your quote that says the authors of the wiki article themselves are the ones responsible for it being pulled. That's a little different than someone else having it pulled. Unless I misunderstood that paragraph.

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on May 21, 2010, 01:41 PM
Not sure if it's been said in this thread, but I'm sure it warrants repeating anyways...  ;)

Programs that steal focus! Pure evil!  >:(

I think that this has been mentioned already, but heck, it BEARS REPEATING! Probably my biggest computer based pet-peeve...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on May 23, 2010, 01:19 AM
@J-Mac:
The guy who put the publication up on scribd was attempting to distill the important parts of an entire wiki, I say he gets an 'A' for effort at least.
Apparently he got some stuff wrong (or possibly, slightly incorrect) and the wiki community got after him.

My beef is, I would really like to read the article, discrepancies or no.
I would have been content with a bold header in the document warning of potential bugaboos, but to have the document taken down entirely?
:nono2:

Really, this is a minor annoyance and it IS his right to publish or not publish as his conscience and reason dictate, but put together with all the similar annoyances (nonsensical 404 errors, AOL Hometown and Geocities pages cited in links, etc.) it just grates on the nerves.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: fenixproductions on July 04, 2011, 03:09 AM
"The Witcher 2" with fabulous graphics and no possibility to take a screenshot*.

*) Except buying FRAPS or taking the risk with with ATI TrayTools.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 03:16 AM
Late to the party again...

Programs that steal focus! Pure evil!  >:(
I agree that this is a terrible thing.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Renegade on July 04, 2011, 03:53 AM
Late to the party again...

Another thing to be annoyed at! People late to the party! Then they just see me all sloppy drunk... It's embarrassing! They should arrive earlier and get sloppy drunk with me~! :P :D

(Just kidding :D )
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: kyrathaba on July 04, 2011, 06:15 PM
One of my chief annoyances is when a family member "borrows" something of mine (without asking first) and then doesn't return it!  Grr...
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: kyrathaba on July 04, 2011, 06:17 PM
Programs that HAVE an installer, but don't include an uninstaller.  And, by extension, programs whose uninstallers don't completely uninstall all of the app's files.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on July 04, 2011, 08:34 PM
Traffic lights in the United States.

With all the technology we have, why are these things still being manufactured with such an antiquated electrical design? Most of them can't even automatically reset themselves following a power failure. Talk about a joke. >:(
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 08:45 PM
Programs that HAVE an installer, but don't include an uninstaller.  And, by extension, programs whose uninstallers don't completely uninstall all of the app's files.
Yes, not happy with either of these.  If practical, much prefer apps which require no installation steps apart from extraction, and correspondingly can be uninstalled with a simple folder deletion.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on July 05, 2011, 01:11 PM
This is in case you "accidentally" uninstall their software.
In such cases, you would certainly immediately re-install and find to your relief that all your settings, appearances, files, etc. are still available to the "new" install...

Rather like "We cut the chain, so you're free to move about freely now. If, however you should ever wish to be enslaved again, we've left the fetters on."
 ;)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on July 05, 2011, 05:54 PM
"The Witcher 2" with fabulous graphics and no possibility to take a screenshot*.

*) Except buying FRAPS or taking the risk with with ATI TrayTools.
-fenixproductions (July 04, 2011, 03:09 AM)

Could you not use Steam or Raptr or Xfire?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on June 14, 2013, 04:56 AM
Why start a new thread about an old topic?   :tellme:
........

What annoys me over and over and...

Non-answers!

Question: Is it raining hard where you are?

Answer:  I have a state of the art umbrella!

:p
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: allen on June 14, 2013, 07:29 AM
"Should I install the developer preview of that OS?"
 or
"How do I install the developer preview of that OS?"

If you to ask, the answer is a resounding f*** no. If your hands can reach the keyboard, you're sitting too close.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on June 14, 2013, 09:51 AM
Traffic lights in the United States.

With all the technology we have, why are these things still being manufactured with such an antiquated electrical design? Most of them can't even automatically reset themselves following a power failure. Talk about a joke. >:(

Update:

In my small portion of the US... we now have LED red and green.  Yellow is still incandescent and not cost-effective to switch.
All are computer controlled as well.  Following a power outage, the yellow or red blink until reset, mostly by computer.
This blinking isn't great and sometimes it goes on for a spell.  But it's way safer than having nothing.
Also... it somewhat keeps the stop or go decision away from the motorists.   :P
And... I'm seeing more and more crosswalk timers.  I think the concept is to let pedestrians know how long they have before being run over.  ;D
These can be seen from your vehicle and it's nice to know when to speed up or slow down.  Saves time or brakes.  IMO great idea.

--------------------

My beef-
Time of day sequencing.
Say you have three traffic lights close enough together to see all 3 any time of day.
At 5:00 a.m. all are green... zoom right through.  :)
At 5:01 a.m. #1 turns red and you stop to let zero (0) traffic go through.  Lights 2 and 3 are still green.  As your #1 light turns green, #2 light turns yellow then red to let more nothing through.  Same with #3.  >:(

Even if these lights were only 200 feet (61 meters) apart and you accelerated like Mario Andretti... you'd still catch one of 'em.

BTW  Fort Lauderdale PD has a ticket called *Improper Start* and they gave me my very own copy a while back.  ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 14, 2013, 11:06 AM
Kit-Kat commercials on TV.

I don't know why they think the sound of somebody loudly chewing their product makes you want to buy it. Or that biting into a candy bar can induce an orgasm - as the expressions on the ad actor's faces (especially the women's) seem to imply.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Stoic Joker on June 14, 2013, 11:36 AM
BTW  Fort Lauderdale PD has a ticket called *Improper Start* and they gave me my very own copy a while back.

Having a rather (shall we say) colorful driving history (street racing), I positively must know what constitutes a "Proper Start"? Even now that I'm pushing 50 I seldom get more than half the rated mileage off a set of tires.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 14, 2013, 11:43 AM
what constitutes a "Proper Start"

In my state it means: NO rubber/NO squeal. 8)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on June 14, 2013, 11:54 AM
BTW  Fort Lauderdale PD has a ticket called *Improper Start* and they gave me my very own copy a while back.

Having a rather (shall we say) colorful driving history (street racing), I positively must know what constitutes a "Proper Start"? Even now that I'm pushing 50 I seldom get more than half the rated mileage off a set of tires.

I just past *early retirement* age (USA) and a Proper Start is anything except what I did in the early '70's.

It involved a newly earned DL, a small-block '63 Vette, 10" wide rear tires, some rocks in the road under them and a 360.

Cop wasn't impressed... nor my father.   ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Stoic Joker on June 14, 2013, 12:06 PM
what constitutes a "Proper Start"

In my state it means: NO rubber/NO squeal. 8)

Yeah mine to (Florida - same as crabby), but god...that's just so boring. I like to enjoy driving as an activity.. So any time I can get someone to drop their phone to give me the finger I look at as a win. My antics would not have surprised them had they too been paying attention all along.

@crabby - 360 is a damn fine engine. I've got one in my 02 Dodge Dakota.

In my distant youth I frequently left the cop standing there scratching their head trying to figure out how the hell to describe what I was doing on the ticket. I managed to negotiate that confusion down to careless driving about 35 times.

...But officer how can you say I was doing 95mph on the street...(caught on radar after launching the bike over a set of tracks 6-8 feet in the air)...if I wasn't even touching it??
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on June 14, 2013, 12:11 PM
Kit-Kat commercials on TV.

I don't know why they think the sound of somebody loudly chewing their product makes you want to buy it. Or that biting into a candy bar can induce an orgasm - as the expressions on the ad actor's faces (especially the women's) seem to imply.

Maybe this is conjoined commercials?

Kit-Kat = crunch   York Peppermint Pattie = orgasm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzcxM6u7ey0)

 Both Hershey's
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on June 14, 2013, 12:28 PM
what constitutes a "Proper Start"

In my state it means: NO rubber/NO squeal. 8)

Yeah mine to (Florida - same as crabby), but god...that's just so boring. I like to enjoy driving as an activity.. So any time I can get someone to drop their phone to give me the finger I look at as a win. My antics would not have surprised them had they too been paying attention all along.

@crabby - 360 is a damn fine engine. I've got one in my 02 Dodge Dakota.

In my distant youth I frequently left the cop standing there scratching their head trying to figure out how the hell to describe what I was doing on the ticket. I managed to negotiate that confusion down to careless driving about 35 times.

...But officer how can you say I was doing 95mph on the street...(caught on radar after launching the bike over a set of tracks 6-8 feet in the air)...if I wasn't even touching it??

Actually the 360 was vehicle rotation around in a circle.  The engine was a stock 327.  But the car was cool and fun to drive.

Burgundy with OE side pipes, convertable, chick-magnet.   8)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Stoic Joker on June 14, 2013, 12:43 PM
Ah! Yes, a 327 would make much more sense in a Chevy. I was trying to post in a hurry and not thinking.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on June 14, 2013, 01:16 PM
Ah! Yes, a 327 would make much more sense in a Chevy. I was trying to post in a hurry and not thinking.

I think I may have been able to put a larger block, non Chevy, engine in it.  Even back then JCW had all kinds of conversion kits.

But it would have been way easier to stick with the brand.

Back around '72 a friend of mine dropped a Kubota diesel into a '65 Mustang.  When kerosene was dirt cheap.
He gave me a ride and it worked drove fine... just noisy as hell.   ;D
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on June 14, 2013, 01:54 PM
Riddle:  What is really annoying and never stops.  No... not Pawn Stars... junk mail.

After over 3 years of emails and phone calls... the crap has slowed from a deluge to a drizzle.   :(   ...not stopped.

... death, taxes and junk mail.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Tinman57 on June 16, 2013, 08:08 PM
Riddle:  What is really annoying and never stops.  No... not Pawn Stars... junk mail.

After over 3 years of emails and phone calls... the crap has slowed from a deluge to a drizzle.   :(   ...not stopped.

... death, taxes and junk mail.

  I solved my spam problems with good software that deletes them before I even download them on my pop3 server.  The phone call problem I solved with a call-blocker.  Now if I can only solve the taxes and death.....  :P
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on June 17, 2013, 12:58 AM
Riddle:  What is really annoying and never stops.  No... not Pawn Stars... junk mail.

After over 3 years of emails and phone calls... the crap has slowed from a deluge to a drizzle.   :(   ...not stopped.

... death, taxes and junk mail.

  I solved my spam problems with good software that deletes them before I even download them on my pop3 server.  The phone call problem I solved with a call-blocker.  Now if I can only solve the taxes and death.....  :P

After reading your reply, Tinman57, I understand how misleading my reply was.
So please... let me rephrase some things ..

====================

Riddle:  What is really annoying and never stops?  No... not Worlds Deadliest Catch... junk-mail.

After over 3 years of sending emails (31) and making phone calls (17) ...the USPS crap has slowed from a deluge to a drizzle.   :(  ...not stopped.
This ongoing effort included entering my name/address on The National Do Not Mail List and Epsilon Opt-Out.

 ... death, taxes, Pawn Stars and junk-mail.   ;D

p.s.1  The few bits of spam I was getting were from my ISP, but after threatening to switch ...they abruptly stopped.  ;D
p.s.2  The National Do Not Call Registry ended most of the telemarketing garbage and my answering machine dissuades the rest.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: CleverCat on June 17, 2013, 05:11 AM
Friends who do not reply or just ignore my 'read receipt' for email!

Friends who have Voice Mail or answering machines and NEVER check for messages... Grrrrr I've paid for the call so respect that!

:mad:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Josh on June 17, 2013, 07:25 AM
People who go to the gym and smell like they've bathed in cologne or perfume. You do not go to the gym to smell good, you go there to SWEAT. Leave the perfume/cologne at home!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: joiwind on June 17, 2013, 07:34 AM
Software that doesn't ask you where to install ...

(Probably already mentioned !)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 17, 2013, 12:01 PM
People who go to the gym and smell like they've bathed in cologne or perfume.
People who don't use cologne or perfume and smell like they've been to the gym.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: wraith808 on June 17, 2013, 12:25 PM
People who go to the gym and smell like they've bathed in cologne or perfume.
People who don't use cologne or perfume and smell like they've been to the gym.
-cranioscopical (June 17, 2013, 12:01 PM)

People who use cologne or perfume and still smell like they've been to the gym.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: cranioscopical on June 17, 2013, 03:36 PM
People who go to the gym and smell like they've bathed in cologne or perfume.
People who don't use cologne or perfume and smell like they've been to the gym.
-cranioscopical (June 17, 2013, 12:01 PM)

People who use cologne or perfume and still smell like they've been to the gym.
Jim — Phew!
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Darwin on June 17, 2013, 06:50 PM
what constitutes a "Proper Start"

In my state it means: NO rubber/NO squeal. 8)

No glove, no love?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Rover on June 17, 2013, 09:03 PM
Open ended questions?   >:(

Probably been said before.  :tellme:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on June 17, 2013, 10:38 PM
My pet annoyance: People who jump to a conclusion about why someone or something is the way they/it are, and then they proceed to go and judge or get annoyed over that reasoning even though it never existed outside of their own minds.

Someone I love very, very much has a bad habit of interrupting me in conversation to make a point that I supposedly lent credence to, except that I didn't; said person merely heard enough of my sentence to come to their own (entirely different) conclusion and interrupted accordingly. :nono2:

What annoys me over and over and...

Non-answers!

Question: Is it raining hard where you are?

Answer:  I have a state of the art umbrella!

That sounds EXACTLY like when politicians "answer" questions.  Which is a HUGE annoyance of mine.  Just ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!! (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/2Signs/signs146.gif)
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: 40hz on June 17, 2013, 10:43 PM
Today it's videos demoing guitars where there's so much distortion/overdrive added - or so many effects plugged in between the instrument and the amp - that you have absolutely no idea what the instrument itself sounds like. :-\

That and "Emo" anything. :down:
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Edvard on June 17, 2013, 11:08 PM
^^ +1.
I'm a big distortion/overdrive freak, but the hell if I'm going to judge quality by a fnikcug YOUTUBE VIDEO.
If I have the time and money to actually go and buy a new instrument, the music store is the first place I go, not the internet.  Too bad most of those are going the way of most brick-and-mortars.   :-\

Oh, and screw emo too.  It's just 12-year olds thinking they got the blues, but... well... you know.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: Stoic Joker on June 18, 2013, 06:38 AM
what constitutes a "Proper Start"

In my state it means: NO rubber/NO squeal. 8)

No glove, no love?

Hay now, if that one starts to smoke you're doing it wrong..
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on June 18, 2013, 08:44 AM
Acronyms.  WTF ?
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: superboyac on July 17, 2013, 07:23 PM
Acronyms.  WTF ?
You're username is perfect for this thread.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: superboyac on July 17, 2013, 07:24 PM
That and "Emo" anything. :down:
Don't watch the latest Muppet movie...emo Kermit.
Title: Re: What annoys you to no end?
Post by: crabby3 on July 17, 2013, 09:15 PM
Acronyms.  WTF ?
You're username is perfect for this thread.

Finally .. . I fit in.   ;D