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Title: cd burning
Post by: kurtzern on May 09, 2007, 08:33 AM

I wish to install Linux Ubuntu on my backup machine, which does not have a burn drive.  My main machine does have a write drive, but Roxio Easy CD Creator does not seem to wish to burn the downloaded file/program.  Is there some other tool that is more appropriate for this task? 
Dell 8250, Win XP Pro, Pentium 4 2.8 GBh, 1 Gig RAM.
Thank you.
kurtzern

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: justice on May 09, 2007, 08:41 AM

There's dozens,
I use imgburn (http://www.imgburn.com/) It's free and makes it really easy to make discs, especially from image files.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: tomos on May 09, 2007, 08:59 AM

anyone tried CDBurnerXP Pro (http://www.cdburnerxp.se/download.php)
I used it for a while a couple of years ago
but gave up for some reason i cant remember now (something to do with multisession burns i think)

I believe they've rewritten it but new beta is not yet available
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/index.php


Another possibility is Deepburner - user reviews here:
http://www.snapfiles.com/opinions/DeepBurner/DeepBurner.html

Comparision DeepBurner Pro vs. DeepBurner Free here
http://www.deepburner.com/index.php?r=products&pr=deepburner&prr=provsfree

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Ampa on May 09, 2007, 10:27 AM

I am currently using ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/) - I like it because it is so small and discreet, but the Build mode, for compiling CDs from many files could use some refinement.

However, for your current task (burning an ISO image), I can't recommend it strongly enough.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: kurtzern on May 09, 2007, 02:23 PM

Thanks for three good suggestions.  I will try each and report back if I come up with anything possibly useful to others.
ek

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: lanux128 on May 09, 2007, 08:24 PM

try InfraRecorder. i wrote a mini-review about the program here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=8140.0).. (shameless plug aside, it is a worthy burner) ;)

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http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: tomos on May 10, 2007, 02:06 AM

try InfraRecorder. i wrote a mini-review about the program here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=8140.0).. (shameless plug aside, it is a worthy burner) ;)

-lanux128 (May 09, 2007, 08:24 PM)

wow,
thanks lanux,
I had missed that review completely ...

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: lanux128 on May 10, 2007, 02:58 AM

... I had missed that review completely ...

-tomos (May 10, 2007, 02:06 AM)

no problem, tomos.. :) i think that it's better to have a cd burner thread in the "What's the Best?" section with links to various programs.. :up:

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 10, 2007, 05:54 AM

ImgBurn for all image file burning (easy, quick and efficient - and free).

Ashampoo Burning Studio 6 for everything else. (Search the form and there is a freebie version 5 too). Cheap (cost me $9.99) and does everything I need - and crucially allows conformant DVDs to be written from a VIDEO_TS folder (which ImgBurn doesn't - at least not easily) and also CD copying.

I used to use Nero but as far as I am concerned it's bloat is now consigned to the trash.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 10, 2007, 10:16 AM

Note that Ashampoo Burning Studio 7 is out now... and allows for DVD copy and the creation of bootable disks. Wait two to three months and you should be able to pick it up for about $8 or $9. I love ABS 6... I'm about ready to ditch Sonic RecordNow! 8 as I NEVER use it anymore.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 10, 2007, 01:58 PM

Ha Ha, I just looked at Burning Studio 7 and for me there is nothing compelling - plus I asked for the upgrade price and it is £19.99 (that's UK pounds) whereas it is advertised as a firt time purchase at $39.99 (USD)  ....

Given that v. 6 was $9.99 I ain't paying nearly 4 times as much for the upgrade.

By the way you can't backup DVDs - you can build DVDs with any media video file but I can't see the recoding being brilliant (may be wrong but I don't need more software to do that). You can burn VIDEO_TS files to DVDs, but you can do that in version 6.

Another big plus is ripping CDs to MP3 files - whoopee - can't you do that for free in WMP and numerous other apps that are available for free.

Strikes me as though they are heading in the Nero direction - in which case I will stick with version 6 which is lean and mean and gets the job done.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 10, 2007, 03:23 PM

Dang! Thanks for the overview, Carol. I should learn to read more carefully. Absolutely SCANDALOUS that I am offered the upgrade for $19.99 and you lot in the UK are offered it at £19.99 - that's more than TWICE the price.

Charming.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 10, 2007, 03:25 PM

Oh, BTW, meant to mention to kurtzen WRT Ashampoo Burning Studio 6 - you should STILL be able to get version 6 cheap (as in the $9 price range. Someone here, forget who, got it for $7.99 a while ago...

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: kurtzern on May 10, 2007, 05:14 PM

Hello again, new friends.  Of the three programs suggested, ImgBurn achieved the task best, successfully burning the Ubuntu .iso file for installation.
Now, with Ubuntu installed and successfully humming on that old machine, I need anti-virus protection.  I use Kaspersky on my main machine.  I had used the U. of Michigan's free McAfee on the old machine, but they no longer support or make available that program for what used to be a Win98 machine.  Are there any freeware or shareware programs available and suggested for use with Linux?
Again, Thanks!
kurtzern

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 11, 2007, 04:53 AM

Kurtzern - can I suggest you start a new thread for information about linux AV solutions - makes things easier to find if others are looking for similar answers.

Cheers.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: lanux128 on May 11, 2007, 01:05 PM

yes, i agree that a new thread would be appropriate but on a general note, is AV necessary for linux? :)

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 11, 2007, 01:35 PM

You mean like Mac doesn't get viruses either ...

Seriously I'd guess there is a growing problem under Linux these days but like Mac the user base is so small it has not got to epidemic proportions yet.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Ampa on May 11, 2007, 07:09 PM

Re: Linux viruses... There are a few proof of concept viruses out there, but nothing like the plague that assualts Windows.

However in my opinion, the main concern should be for Windows users.  Now that applications such as Open Office can read Microsoft Word documents and the like, a Linux system will pass on Windows-based viruses in these files, just as happily as a Windows system will.  Therefore Linux users need some system to recognize whether their files are infected with Windows viruses.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: kurtzern on May 11, 2007, 07:41 PM

New thread has been begun under "Malware Protection (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=8491.0)" if any of you helpful people would care to switch with me.
ek


[Edit: Included link to new thread. Carol]

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: elpresi on May 13, 2007, 05:14 PM

Hi,
I use Imgbrn for image files and PrassiONEs for everything else. It is lightweight and works very well.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Prassi_ONES

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 15, 2007, 10:12 AM

Just to note that Ashampoo (http://www.ashampoo.com) just offered me Ashampoo Burning Studio 7 (http://www.ashampoo.com/frontend/products/php/product.php?session_langid=2&idstring=1110) for $9.99...

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 15, 2007, 10:21 AM

Wow! Ashampoo/SoftMaker Office 2006 (http://www.ashampoo.com/frontend/products/php/product.php?session_langid=2&idstring=0138) for $4.99 (reg. $69.99) is well worth the money (if you don't already have MS Office). It's light on resources and runs from a thumbdrive. SoftMaker (http://www.softmaker.com/english) are beta testing a Presentation (http://www.softmaker.com/english/pr_en.htm) app (a la Powerpoint - I'm running the beta and it's slick) for Office 2007 right now, so I assume that this cheap price indicates that Office 2007 must be close to release...

EDIT: Just to clarify, Ashampoo/SoftMaker 2006 includes two apps: TextMaker (word processor - like Word) and PlanMaker (spreadsheets - like Excel). See Zaine's review of TextMaker here (http://www.anova.org/software/index01.htm#word).

Also, I've cross-posted (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=8551.0) the gist of this and the preceding post to the Discounts found forum.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 15, 2007, 10:56 AM

Just to note that Ashampoo (http://www.ashampoo.com) just offered me Ashampoo Burning Studio 7 (http://www.ashampoo.com/frontend/products/php/product.php?session_langid=2&idstring=1110) for $9.99 (https://ashampoo.cleverbridge.com/10/?scope=checkout&cart=14091&coupon=NLV-WYM-Y8H&currency=USD&language=en&enablecoupon=false&cookie=false&usepricescale=false&x-source=mail)...

-Darwin (May 15, 2007, 10:12 AM)

And to me for £6.99 + VAT (still about 50% mark up on US prices but I am not going to whinge at £6.99). I wasn't sure whether to post the coupon code here or not (not sure if it is personal).

Darwin you show me yours (by PM) and I'll show you mine (so to speak ;)). If we have the same code I see no reason not to post it here. Just look in the URL on the order page when it opens.

Edit: Just checked your link and it is unique to you. I have edited on the discount page to the generic (non specific link ...)

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 15, 2007, 11:03 AM

Thanks for doing that, Carol. I checked that before I posted but I guess not carefully enough!

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: kurtzern on May 15, 2007, 11:05 AM

Thanks Darwin, Carol.  ImgBurn proved sufficient for my present purpose.  I am saving this added info for possible future use.  This is a very helpful site:  Thank you all very much!
ek

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 15, 2007, 11:27 AM

BTW I'm sticking with Burning Studio 6 for now as I'm very happy with it and have no need of the the added features in 7 (not as a paid upgrade, anyway)... I'm pretty unlikely to use it to rip CD's to mp3 and I'm completely uninterested in the ability to build DVD's from media!

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 15, 2007, 11:48 AM

Thanks Darwin, Carol.  ImgBurn proved sufficient for my present purpose.  I am saving this added info for possible future use.  This is a very helpful site:  Thank you all very much!
ek

-kurtzern (May 15, 2007, 11:05 AM)

The main thing is that it is difficult to build DVDs properly with ImgBurn (even if you have already created the VIDEO_TS folder full of VOB files). The AShampoo software allows you to burn compliant DVDs straight from the VIDEO_TS folder and you can even build ISO versions of DVD Video discs. AShampoo also allows CD and DVD copying on the fly whereas ImgBurn makes you 'read' a disc to an ISO file and then burn the image out again. I still use both but find AShampoo quick and easy to use for most things too - whilst not free it is worth considering at $9.99!

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 16, 2007, 04:17 PM

Strange email from AShampoo today:

Dear Ashampoo customer,

you recently received an offer to buy Ashampoo Burning
Studio 7 at a price of GBP 6.99.

Unfortunately, the fault devil has crept in with us and
indicated a wrong price. The offer should have been GBP 14.99.

We hope you excuse our mistake and we would like to give you a
full version of Ashampoo Photo Optimizer as a small compensation!

WTF ????

Anyway having got it for £6.99 I now have a free copy of Photo Optimizer (fwiw) ....

The links on the deals page still work correctly so if you want it grab it quick before they change the prices!

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 16, 2007, 04:32 PM

That is absolutely INSANE! :lol: But I'm glad you got the earlier price AND the freebie (as you note, fwiw...) :eusa_dance:

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: tomos on May 16, 2007, 04:42 PM

I now have a free copy of Photo Optimizer (fwiw) ....

-Carol Haynes (May 16, 2007, 04:17 PM)

if you get a chance sometime, maybe you'd let us know what it is worth !

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Grorgy on May 16, 2007, 05:19 PM

it has to be worth that price lol, they give it away on magazine disks to, thats how i got my copy, and i was looking for something like that, something to sort them and keep track of them and it seemed to be ok, havent used it much, got busy with other stuff.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 20, 2007, 10:38 AM

they give it away on magazine disks to, thats how i got my copy

This is what I miss about living in the UK (and the good old days in Canada) - cover disks are damned near extinct in Canada. In fact, in the smallish town that I live in, computer magazines are pretty sparse too - PC Mag, PC World, CPU, Smart Computing. There are a heck of a lot more gaming magazines now.

EDIT: fixed quote

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Ampa on May 25, 2007, 08:57 AM

Just discovered that ImgBurn (current version 2.3.2.0) doesn't copy or image audio CDs! Was quite surprised, but apparently this feature is still on the to-do list.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 25, 2007, 09:09 AM

That's the main reason I have Ashampoo too.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: CleverCat on May 26, 2007, 02:31 AM

I got Ashampoo Burning Studio off a magazine disk. No mess. no fuss, never gives me any trouble...Just got 6 (I have 5) offered for $4.99! :D

Ashampoo Photo Commander is great too - it's got an amazingly easy renaming facility for any files and it plays audio, video etc and is the only programme I know that can open Photoshop psd files! :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 26, 2007, 09:48 AM

I was reasonably impressed with the Ashampoo PhotoCommander trial that I ran a couple of months ago. It was pretty slick. However, as I already have PhotoCollector and exifPro (not to mentino SnapFire Plus) I passed on it. Seemed really nice, though.

I *think* you can still get Ashampoo Burning Studio 7 via the links that Carol and I posted on the previous page. If you're in NA it's $9.99. However, version 6 is excellent, too!

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on May 26, 2007, 10:28 AM

The links are still working for the discounts but they have changed the price to $19.99 (USD) / £14.99 (UKP)

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Ampa on May 26, 2007, 11:57 AM

Just for completeness...

The free version of Ashampoo Burning Studio 5 (http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/downloads/2143157/ashampoo-burning-studio)

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 26, 2007, 12:35 PM

The links are still working for the discounts but they have changed the price to $19.99 (USD) / £14.99 (UKP)

-Carol Haynes (May 26, 2007, 10:28 AM)

Drat! Still, if I were (a  :D) Clevercat, I'd try the "make us an offer" site at Ashampoo (can't find it right now; often I can get to it via the special offers link from the Help menu, although at the moment it's offering me ClipFind instead) - start at $4.99 and work your way up. I'd bet they'll take something in the $7.99 range, but it would be worth starting low... Just a thought...

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: lanux128 on May 26, 2007, 03:12 PM

BTW I'm sticking with Burning Studio 6 for now as I'm very happy with it and have no need of the the added features in 7 (not as a paid upgrade, anyway)...

-Darwin (May 15, 2007, 11:27 AM)

looks like everyone is happy to go the Nero way, adding features that nobody wants.. :)

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Grorgy on May 26, 2007, 03:30 PM

after all this discussion on adhampoo burning studio 6, what should appear on the cover disk of not 1 but 2 of the local pc magazines, yep you guessed it, ashampoo 6 (for free, but i wont comment on free software, seems to be another theread for that)  :)

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: lanux128 on May 26, 2007, 03:36 PM

i am thinking of getting version 6 of Ashampoo as well before it disappears.. :)

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: mikiem on May 27, 2007, 08:57 AM

Not saying anything against any of the software mentioned, a couple of deals some might be interested in...

1) there were apparently loads of discs available as you can still find the Nero 6 OEM Suite 3 [surpluscomputers.com sells it for $5 shipped]. While you are limited to the Express version of the burning software, you do get most of the goodies like DVD viewing/authoring, recode etc.

2) If you downloaded & registered the Roxio Easy Media Creator Suite 9, it apparently put you on the mailing list for an email deal Roxio's been hyping the last few weeks... I got about 10 emails from them so far. The deal: the latest Deluxe Suite 9 (which includes the Dazzle DVC90) for $50 + shipping on the DVC90. There's also a relatively liberal upgrade rebate for $30 on top of that -- I haven't received a rebate check yet of course, but at $50 it's a great deal -- at $20 almost unbelievable.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on May 27, 2007, 12:55 PM

Unfortunately, Deluxe Suite 9 is a 650MB download... I *just* uninstalled Roxio/Sonic Deluxe Suite 8 because I realised that I don't use ANY of it, and had never used more than the CD burning feature in the past, prior to picking up Ashampoo Burning Studio.

Roxio is a FINE suite, it's just overkill for me and I got annoyed when I upgraded to 9 and discovered the size of the download after checkout. I RMA'd it without even downloading it and after a few weeks consideration, got rid of the previous version as noted above.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: CleverCat on June 01, 2007, 07:07 AM

after all this discussion on adhampoo burning studio 6, what should appear on the cover disk of not 1 but 2 of the local pc magazines, yep you guessed it, ashampoo 6 (for free, but i wont comment on free software, seems to be another theread for that)  :)

-Grorgy (May 26, 2007, 03:30 PM)

Just got it also........ :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on June 01, 2007, 08:21 AM

after all this discussion on adhampoo burning studio 6, what should appear on the cover disk of not 1 but 2 of the local pc magazines, yep you guessed it, ashampoo 6 (for free, but i wont comment on free software, seems to be another theread for that)  :)

-Grorgy (May 26, 2007, 03:30 PM)

Just got it also........ :Thmbsup:

-CleverCat (June 01, 2007, 07:07 AM)

Guess I'm not such a clever cat after all  ;D

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: roady on June 01, 2007, 02:18 PM

1 of the best cd/dvd burning apps,and only about 10 MB size,is Padus DiscJuggler.....not bloated,unlike Roxio's EasyCD-DVD cremator,but masters pretty much everything you throw at it.
Ashampoo Burning Studio is a decent app,but if you want to rip or burn audio,it has simply not enough to offer to create a decent audiocd .....

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on June 01, 2007, 08:00 PM

Interesting Roady - I'll take a look! Thanks  :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Darwin on June 01, 2007, 08:01 PM

BTW Welcome to Donationcoder, roady! :)

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: lanux128 on June 02, 2007, 12:39 AM

aye, DiscJuggler (http://www.padus.com/products/discjuggler.php) looks promising.. among others, it allows writing drives to be shared across networks. however, it seem to offer licenses by the number of optical drives on the system - e.g. licensing starts from 2 drives which amounts to $49.99. there's a demo version available for download, though..

Demo Edition This time-unlimited, fully-functional demo is availabe for you to download, at no cost or commitment. You are only capable of writing to one CD or DVD writing drive at the lowest speed possible at a capacity no higher than 700 MB. Technical Support is only available by e-mail for demo users.

http://www.padus.com/downloads/demo.php

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: roady on June 02, 2007, 03:51 AM

THX for the friendly welcome,Darwin  :)
@ lanux128,the tutorials section and the DiscJuggler version history page at Padus' website aren't still updated about the new version 6,but if you browse around,you'll get a pretty good idea about DJ's capabilities.
It's a professional mastering program,and 1 of the 1st burning programs capable to backup Playstation games and karaoke discs,which both store the extra info in the subchannels.That's something that Nero or Roxio never achieved,backing up copy-protected discs
Now we have CloneCd,Alcohol 120% and BlindWrite as better 1:1 cdcopiers,but these are no mastering programs..... ;)


/rant over/

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: elpresi on June 18, 2007, 12:33 AM

free Ashampoo 6.5:
http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ashampoo65/index

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: Carol Haynes on June 18, 2007, 03:35 AM

Now we have ... BlindWrite as better 1:1 cdcopiers,but these are no mastering programs..... ;)

-roady (June 02, 2007, 03:51 AM)

I have a lifetime VSO product license, but the trouble with BlindWrite is there is no way to verify a disc after writing. I have complained about this to VSO a number of times and they have promised it in a future version but until they sort it out I have given up on it.

If you want a bit perfect copy it is important that you can verify that writing has completed correctly.

Title: Re: cd burning
Post by: tomos on June 21, 2007, 03:57 AM

If you want a bit perfect copy it is important that you can verify that writing has completed correctly.

-Carol Haynes (June 18, 2007, 03:35 AM)

I was using Nero Express last week to burn a (photo) DVD
The verification took an absolute age (I dont think it's the drive - Plextor 716A - it burns at full speed anyway)

Had the idea then to test the next one with DOpus's synchronisation tool which also does a bit-by-bit comparison & it seemed to be a lot faster -
no scientific measurements but will keep track of how long it takes next time I do it.

I'm sure there's other free synchronisation tools out there if people wanted to go that route.

I havent been using Ashampoo Burn (6.5) cause it wouldnt update a multisession disk for me. I would have tried a bit harder - tested on a different disc or something, but I had Nero Express to fall back on so ...