| Application Name | Ethervane Echo |
| Version | 1.1.3 (new version May 9) |
| Short Description | Lightweight clipboard extender for text |
| Supported OSes | Windows XP, Vista, 7 and later |
| Home page | tranglos.com (http://www.tranglos.com/echo/) |
| Download | standard version (installer) (http://www.tranglos.com/dl/echosetup.exe) portable version (zip file) (http://www.tranglos.com/dl/echoportable.zip) |
| Download spelling dictionaries | standard version (installer) (http://www.tranglos.com/dl/ethervanespellsetup.exe) portable version (zip file) (http://www.tranglos.com/dl/ethervanespellportable.zip) See here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=27849.msg263886#msg263886) for info on downloading and installing the spelling dictionaries. |
| System Requirements | No special requirements. Win XP and later only! |
| Description | Clipboard extender (manager) designed to speed up typing repetitive text. For writers, translators and coders. Fast and lightweight, with instant search. Captures text in all formats, but does not capture clips that do not contain text (e.g,. bitmaps). |
| Features | Clean, streamlined interface Super-fast instant search with filtering Search using wildcards and advanced logical expressions Can be used in portable mode (download separate package or modify the master.config file as described in Help) Virtual views with user-defined sort order and filters (e.g. show only clips captured within the last hour, show only sticky clips, show only clips that were copied from Firefox, etc.) Automatic positioning of the program window next to text caret or mouse cursor Clear, configurable display with text wrapping and variable item height Fully Unicode-enabled Privacy features, including ability to store clips in memory only Ability to ignore clips from certain applications Automatic database maintenance Importing and exporting clips Editing clips directly ("in-place") or in separate editor window (now includes spell checker for over 20 languages) Written in Delphi XE, the best edition of Delphi ever! |
| Screenshots | [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] |
| Installation | Standard version: Download and run the installer package. Portable version: Download the portable package and extract all files from the zip archive into any directory to which you have write permission. (That means NOT under "Program Files!) Run "ethervaneecho.exe" to start the app. Tip: Database performance depends on the speed of your hard disk. If using the portable version, install it on the fastest disk you have. |
| Using the application | Start Echo and it will begin capturing clips. Press Win+Insert (configurable) to bring up the main window. Scroll or find a clip, then press Enter to paste it into the active application window. See the Help file for details. |
| Uninstalling | Desktop version: Use the Control Panel to uninstall. (Uninstaller will not delete the data and configuration files, because it does not create them when installing. At the moment they must be deleted manually. Find them in application data folder for the logged-in user, under "Ethervane\EthervaneEcho") Portable version: Delete the application folder. Configuration and database files are stored under this folder as well. |
| Known Issues | See topics "Bugs and Known Issues" and "Limitations" in the Help file. |
| New in this release (1.1.3) | Fixed a bug that would cause use count to be unnecessarily incremented in some situations,. e.g. when capturing duplicate clips. |
Great work, tranglos. Those screenshots are awesome!-kyrathaba (September 06, 2011, 07:59 AM)
What flavor of database does your program use, just out of curiosity?-kyrathaba (September 06, 2011, 07:59 AM)
1. The clip list context menu: too small? Too large? Any important commands missing? Or could the order of commands be improved? (For example, I tried to keep the Delete command away from other most commonly used commands such as Sticky and Edit, to avoid situations where you might accidentally delete a clip by a slip of the mouse. Any comments are welcome.)I strongly feel that the navigation commands should be buttons on the toolbar. However, I feel these navigation commands are largely trivial. Between using the mouse and keyboard and the simplicity of this app, anything more is pretty small in importance.
2. The "Navigate" section in the main menu doesn't seem to be pulling its weight. Perhaps the menu could be done away with entirely, and the commands distributed under other sections of the menu?Sure, the simpler the better, especially when you lose nothing in the process.
3. The editor (Shift+F2): apart from spell-check, which is coming, is there anything else that could be useful? This isn't meant to be a fully-featured editor, but I can do a few things there. Is the context menu enough, or would anyone prefer a toolbar?I would prefer a toolbar where I can customize it. This is a very simple application, and having access to a few buttons is better and easier than right-click stuff. one-click vs two-clicks. A very cool feature to add to the editor is the ability to highlight search terms. It's already awesome how the non-matches disappear (like evernote), but to make it perfect, the search terms would be highlighted individually. And if there are multiple search terms, they would have different colors (just like evernote). This, by the way, would turn this into one of my favorite applications ever.
4. Do you think it's a good idea to suspend capturing clips while the editor is active? Any scenario under which you would want to capture text copied from the Shift+F2 editor?I can see of one use: trying to copy a portion of a clip already in the program. In the regular view, you can't highlight a portion of the note without opening the external editor. In fact, if you made the stuff in the regular view selectable, you wouldn't even need an external editor. But then how would you edit a clip? Well, two ways: either have a small button next to each clip which, when clicked, would allow you to edit it (like Surfulator) or you can add an option about what to do with mouse clicks. I might set it up so that double-clicking allows me to edit a note. So you can have customizable options for mouse clicks (like KMPlayer). But I'd really like to be able to select and copy a portion of a clip without having to double-click on it first, or open up an editor, or any extra steps. And when I copy that subclip, I'd like the option in the preferences to record or ignore copied subclips. i would set it to record everything including subclips.
I've made a couple of clips sticky, but how do I get to the sticky tab? (Without the mouse I mean). Tabkey toggles just list & search.-tomos (September 08, 2011, 08:02 AM)
It says in the help file
"bring up Echo ... notice that the clip you have just pasted is now the first one on top."
This often takes a good while to actually happen. I noticed it not happening, then checked a few times after pasting - once it happened promptly, then it didnt seem to be happening at all, but did happen eventually i.e. it didnt happen within the first 10 to 15 seconds after pasting.-tomos (September 08, 2011, 08:02 AM)
I think it would be helpful if the close button minimised it to the tray. Or maybe it's just what I'm used to with apps that stay in the tray?-tomos (September 08, 2011, 06:10 AM)
I think it would be helpful if the close button minimised it to the tray. Or maybe it's just what I'm used to with apps that stay in the tray?-tomos (September 08, 2011, 06:10 AM)
I never use that myself (I use the minimize button for that :-) but I can add this as an option, no problem.-tranglos (September 08, 2011, 11:23 AM)
Great, you've found the first bug! :)
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Just to be sure I'm on the right track: select a clip but instead of pressing Enter, press Ctrl+C. This will only copy the clip (without pasting) and Echo will stay open. The clip you have copied should move to the top immediately.-tranglos (September 08, 2011, 11:21 AM)
This often takes a good while to actually happen. I noticed it not happening, then checked a few times after pasting - once it happened promptly, then it didnt seem to be happening at all-tomos (September 08, 2011, 08:02 AM)
Great, you've found the first bug! :)
I have no idea where or why I removed the screen refresh after pasting - will have to fix that.-tranglos (September 08, 2011, 11:21 AM)
if it's not too much hassle that would be great :Thmbsup:-tomos link=topic=27849.msg261177#msg261177
if it's not too much hassle that would be great :Thmbsup:-tomos link=topic=27849.msg261177#msg261177
One other thing: by default Echo minimizes when it loses focus. So instead of clicking the small button - whether minimize or close - you can just click anywhere on screen to get the same end result.-tranglos (September 08, 2011, 12:06 PM)
- have you thought about drag-and-drop or Move to ... ? The possibility of moving a clip from one Quick view to another (and in particular to a custom view, e.g. Archives) either by drag-and-drop or an option in the context menu to Move to ... As things are the Quick views can only contain filtered clips.
-joiwind (September 08, 2011, 12:38 PM)
- and what about clickable urls ?
-joiwind (September 08, 2011, 12:38 PM)
BTW the way, unless I missed it somewhere, could you comment on the name : is it Ethervane like weathervane ?-joiwind (September 08, 2011, 12:38 PM)
I strongly feel that the navigation commands should be buttons on the toolbar.-superboyac (September 07, 2011, 06:02 PM)
A very cool feature to add to the editor is the ability to highlight search terms. It's already awesome how the non-matches disappear (like evernote), but to make it perfect, the search terms would be highlighted individually.
I can see of one use: trying to copy a portion of a clip already in the program.
In the regular view, you can't highlight a portion of the note without opening the external editor. In fact, if you made the stuff in the regular view selectable, you wouldn't even need an external editor.
But I'd really like to be able to select and copy a portion of a clip without having to double-click on it first, or open up an editor, or any extra steps.
And when I copy that subclip, I'd like the option in the preferences to record or ignore copied subclips. i would set it to record everything including subclips.
Another feature I'd love to have (as in CHS and Arsclip) is a quickpaste menu for pasting stuff. So with CHS and ARSclip, with a hotkey, you can have a quickpaste menu appear right under your mouse pointer which is awesome.
Also, how about an option to show the entire note in the normal view, regardless of the length. I know we can set it to a big value, but how about just a "always show entire note" setting?
@tranglos, first congratulation on "Ethervane Echo" pledge.
Second I pledged "Paste Text Like", which works with clipboard too, so we are both in same boat now :)-anandcoral (September 12, 2011, 06:26 AM)
Without making "Ethervane Echo" any lesser than "ArsClip", I will like to say that you can open the ArsClip menu at cursor position (set hotkey in Configure) and can increase the number of item (Configure / Show Options). It does has search feature (N - Search, in menu). Permanent clip with script, edit clipboard, exclude program, paste method, form mode etc. are few others which I use occasionally.
Yeah, I only remember testing a version of ArsClip a long time ago. [...] if there is a special menu command to initiate search, it's probably not the kind of "instant search" that I am after.You have to hit a key on the popup to invoke Search. After that, it is what I think people mean by an "instant search" feature. That is, press "d","o","n" and you get everything that includes those, add an "a", and you start to see only those entries with "donation coder" in them. The more letters you add, the more you close in on your target, and removing letters widens it in real time, the list of possibles widens to match.-tranglos (September 12, 2011, 09:01 AM)
First of all I must say that this has quickly become my favorite clipboard manager.
Since I was using Ditto before and read your intro I downloaded the program, and replaced Ditto with it the same day.-kurtyer (September 20, 2011, 01:46 PM)
There seems to be some kind of problem with the search though.
Using this clip (http://pastebin.com/NqHYJt5d) for example.
The clip was copied in its entirety, but searching for hello gave no results...-kurtyer (September 20, 2011, 01:46 PM)
I want to edit clips within the app but keep the original version - sort of like save as is this possible? (I couldnt find a way)
It's easy for me to do this in a text editor, so, just wondering if possible here-tomos (September 21, 2011, 07:36 AM)
thanks tranglos :up:
I ran into a problem with FileHamster (FHm) comment window - I have FHm set to show comment window when making a revision (when I save a file). This comment window is always on top.
If I then call Echo, it is below the comment window, so is not very usable - do you think could it be made more assertively (!) "on top" ?-tomos (September 21, 2011, 08:50 AM)
[1] Is there a pattern to where the window shows on the screen - it always seems to come up directly behind the Filehamster comment window (just right of centre-bottom of screen), but if I escape and call it again, it shows mid left of screen.-tomos (September 22, 2011, 05:13 AM)
[2] How do I change the shortcut - I tried Shift & F12 - typing in F12 but that didnt work (or does it need a restart? - no that no help)
Ctrl+Alt+v doesnt work either.
Win+v works - I'll stick with that**
(BTW what does the MK mean on the qualifier keys in options?)-tomos (September 22, 2011, 05:13 AM)
[2] How do I change the shortcut - I tried Shift & F12 - typing in F12 but that didnt work (or does it need a restart? - no that no help)
Ctrl+Alt+v doesnt work either.
Win+v works - I'll stick with that**
(BTW what does the MK mean on the qualifier keys in options?)-tomos (September 22, 2011, 05:13 AM)
Restart is not needed. The modifier is indeed optional, although it's usually not a good idea to use e.g. F12 by itself. The reason it's confusing is the same as why the whole Preferences dialog is confusing :) The hotkey is controlled by two settings:
In "ActivationHotkeyKey" type the name of the key itself, without modifiers, e.g. 'Ins', 'a' or 'F12'.
In "ActivationHotkeyModifier" click the + symbol at left to expand the list, and there'll be four separate modifier keys listed. Set to True for the modifiers you want, keep the rest False.
As soon as you click OK or Apply, the new hotkey should be active.-tranglos (September 22, 2011, 06:50 AM)
I could try your app to show all shortcuts taken to see if something else is using them (what's it called again?!)-tomos (September 22, 2011, 07:12 AM)
It does look as if some other process could be swallowing some combinations.-tranglos (September 22, 2011, 07:31 AM)
I can make give it the regular "on top" flag-tranglos (September 21, 2011, 09:18 AM)
One thing I'm unclear about -- no matter how much I increase MaxDispTextSize, the display of each item is limited to 5 lines, even if FixedItemHeight is false. To view more of the item I need to adjust the width of the window. Even then I never seem to see the full item, unless I use the editor. Is there another setting I need to adjust?-johnk (September 27, 2011, 10:51 AM)
Thanks, MaxLinesPerItem was what I was looking for. But I can't set it higher than 10?-johnk (September 27, 2011, 05:23 PM)
I'll remove this restriction in the next release.-tranglos (September 27, 2011, 05:38 PM)
CHANGED: Restriction on MaxLinesPerItem now raised to 1000 (requested by Johnk)-tranglos (October 03, 2011, 08:32 PM)
maybe consider recording a screencast video explanation?-mouser (October 16, 2011, 02:14 PM)
I just can't bring myself to record my voice in English.**Try a Wink (http://www.debugmode.com/wink/) slideshow instead?-tranglos (October 16, 2011, 02:31 PM)
I just can't bring myself to record my voice in English.-tranglos (October 16, 2011, 02:31 PM)
1. How do I start the portable edition autominimized to tray?
I have set StartMinimized (Startup behavior) to true (and ofc quit and restarted Echo afterwards) but the main window will always appear on screen when I start it.-highend01 (November 16, 2011, 04:45 PM)
2. Is there a way to use the InMemoryDatabase option without populating the first clipboard entry with www.ethervane.com after each start?
3. Could you please add an option that allows us to enter a number between 0 and 9 to paste entry id 1, two, ..., 10 to the current application instead of selecting e.g. the fifth entry by going down with the cursor down key 4 times? Optionally with the shift modifier to paste them as plain text?
Ofc there should be some kind of override option so that any of these numbers doesn't trigger the search function.
I just tried this, and I think you've done a great job. But, because I can never keep my mouth shut, I'd like to offer a couple of comments.-CWuestefeld (November 17, 2011, 02:16 PM)
First, the default filter for the URLs view really ought to have a second pattern added so that it also matches on secure sites. So there should be two filters: "http://" and "https://".
Second, I wish there was an option for a single keystroke to paste as text. I see that I can bring up the window, and then Shift-Enter to paste text only. But it would save me a fraction of a second ;) if I had a direct hotkey for "paste as text" so I don't need to open the window first.
This is just to say thank you. This is so elegant indeed; such a handsome UI and a perfectly flowing experience. Instant favorite, using it everywhere.-paulobrabo (November 17, 2011, 10:20 AM)
Let me check this. Do you use the (default) option to automatically minimize Echo when it loses focus? (This option is at Preferences -> Display -> MinimizeOnDecativate). If you do, Echo should minimize on startup regardless of StartMinimized, due to the fact that when Windows starts applications, Echo is very likely to lose focus soon after Windows has launched it.
Yes, that is a separate setting: Preferences -> Capturing Clips -> CatchUpOnConnect.Ah, sorry, that's something I've missed. Turned it off and now it works fine :)
As a long-time Ditto user I was a bit hesitating, but now I definitely switched to Echo. It's just great! You managed to add many features I was always missing from Ditto, like minimal clip length, etc. (And I don't miss storing bitmaps at all.)-yksyks (November 20, 2011, 04:56 AM)
Pressing the activation hotkey when Echo already has focus should (optionally) dismiss its window
Assignable hotkeys to first 10 clips (I know it was discussed here already), I was always using Win key and a number
Thanks for the new version tranglos. May I add a suggestion (this may exist but I haven't found it) :
- a hot key to connect/disconnect to clipboard
-joiwind (November 28, 2011, 09:33 AM)
Thanks for the new version tranglos. May I add a suggestion (this may exist but I haven't found it) :
- a hot key to connect/disconnect to clipboard
-joiwind (November 28, 2011, 09:33 AM)
It doesn't exist, but it's on my to-do list with a big question mark icon next to it:
(see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=27849.msg269463#msg269463))
The reason for the question mark is that, knowing my own fat fingers, I could press the hotkey unintentionally. When that happens, Echo will disconnect and I'll only find out about it when I need to paste something in. For that reason not only is there no hotkey, but not even a keyboard shortcut inside Echo.
I guess I should add the hotkey along with an option to disable it.-tranglos (November 28, 2011, 10:01 AM)
PS : what do you use as a to-do lister ? (Curious)-joiwind (November 28, 2011, 11:55 AM)
PS : what do you use as a to-do lister ? (Curious)-joiwind (November 28, 2011, 11:55 AM)
My Life Organized Pro (http://www.mylifeorganized.net/products/my-life-organized/how-it-works.htm). Not optimal for this task (e.g. can't include screenshots of bugs or link a particular idea under multiple headings), but quick and easy, and I already have it. I can't stand the internet-based bug-trackers, and for a single home developer they don't really make sense. MLO does a good thing with prioritizing tasks - one click and I see all the most urgent tasks on top.-tranglos (November 28, 2011, 04:03 PM)
I disabled the automatic minimizing on focus losing. The topmost clip is displayed correctly, until I start MS Excel 2003. Then the clip's icon is immediately changed to Excel regardless of what it has been before. So far I didn't discover any similarly behaving application.-yksyks (November 30, 2011, 02:53 AM)
That's what Excel (sometimes) does. Perhaps version 2003 does that more than 2007. Basically, Echo sits there waiting until Windows tells it that clipboard contents have changed. You start Excel, and Excel rewrites the clipboard all by itself - that's a bad thing to do.Is there a possibility that this is caused by some Excel add-in installed on the users' system? Some VBA scripters take rogue steps 'to get it working', and never look back after that. :o-tranglos (November 30, 2011, 05:28 AM)
And maybe an idea for futur versions:
programs from Ethervane Echo does not capture text
p.e. password managers-robbero (December 06, 2011, 02:17 PM)
Beautiful software :)
I left Ditto and changed to Ethervane Echo.
But... I searched for the always on top feature.
I often put the clipboard manager beside my text-editor and use keep it there.
(it would be nice just to have an icon at the top of ethervane echo (in the header) just to put the software on top (of/off click).-robbero (December 06, 2011, 12:50 PM)
Can you make a "Real portable Application"?
"PortableApps.com"-limelect (December 22, 2011, 08:43 AM)
Must be a joke, the installation instructions explicitly explain how to install the portable version :Thmbsup:Can you make a "Real portable Application"?
"PortableApps.com"-limelect (December 22, 2011, 08:43 AM)
That's a joke, right?-PhilB66 (December 22, 2011, 08:54 AM)
Can you make a "Real portable Application"?
"PortableApps.com"-limelect (December 22, 2011, 08:43 AM)
http://www.ghacks.net/2011/12/28/ethervane-echo-a-portable-windows-clipboard-extender/-panzer (December 28, 2011, 01:45 PM)
FIXED: Broken in previous release: Delete key could no longer be used in the in-place editor. It can be now.-tranglos (December 29, 2011, 08:02 PM)
Thanks for the new version tranglos and especially for :FIXED: Broken in previous release: Delete key could no longer be used in the in-place editor. It can be now.which really bothered me !-tranglos (December 29, 2011, 08:02 PM)-joiwind (December 30, 2011, 07:37 AM)
I wrote about it
http://www.rgdot.com/bl/2011/12/31/ethervane-echo-multi-featured-clipboard-manager/-rgdot (December 31, 2011, 10:42 AM)
If you change the default installation folder, Echo will not be able to find the dictionaries, and the spell checkoing feature will be disabled.
May I recommend a spellchecker... :D :PMagic! ;)-PhilB66 (January 02, 2012, 06:33 AM)
(BTW, whatever happened to spelling?)Aaron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Spelling) died a few years ago... :-\-cranioscopical (January 02, 2012, 08:52 AM)
From the Ethervane Spellchecker dictionaries readme.txt:-PhilB66 (January 02, 2012, 06:33 AM)
Aaron died a few years ago...You just had to produce her :o-Ath (January 02, 2012, 09:25 AM)
http://www.instantfundas.com/2012/01/ethervane-echo-portable-clipboard.html-panzer (January 02, 2012, 01:00 PM)
hi this is a great clipboard manager ived tried plenty of them before this-hangdawg (January 05, 2012, 11:21 PM)
but is there a setting i need to change because if you right click tray icon and click clear history you can no longer click on icon to bring it back up only way is to click restore or exit the program and restart it
i do the later as its nice to be able to just click the icon and is there a option to make the close button to minimize it kinda like kee pass does thanks
hi this is a great clipboard manager ived tried plenty of them before this but is there a setting i need to change because if you right click tray icon and click clear history you can no longer click on icon to bring it back up only way is to click restore or exit the program and restart it i do the later as its nice to be able to just click the icon and is there a option to make the close button to minimize it kinda like kee pass does thanks
yes its clear clipboard after clicking it the icon no longer brings it up ive got to close the program and restart it again thanks-hangdawg (January 06, 2012, 07:30 AM)
hi tranglos everything works perfectly now the only thing i changed is i was coping and pasting from firefox 10 beta 32 bit i switched to firefox nightly 12 32 bit and everything is working perfectly now on nightly 12 could that somehow be responsible for Echo acting like it was-hangdawg (January 06, 2012, 11:03 PM)
but it reverts to hidden after reboot or logging off or inThat's probably something with your Windows setup, I suspect. :-\-hangdawg (January 07, 2012, 10:31 AM)
I think I've found a problem under 64-bit: the "Short" tab doesn't display any clips, no matter how short. As an experiment, I changed the filter to use "nrGreaterThanOrEqual" instead of "nrLessThanOrEqual", and then all clips were shown, even the very short ones!-rashford (January 10, 2012, 08:33 AM)
I would like to second Tomos' request for an option to minimize to the tray when I hit the Close box - I know I can just click outside the window or hit the Minimize button, but I just can't get out of the habit of hitting Close when I've finished looking at the clips!
bugs
when trying to add cf_dib or other formats to the store-in-echo-list, the application crashes when clicking the ok-button (Error [EEchoInternalError]: TClpFormatRegistry: Clipboard format "cf_dib" (type: System) already exists in the registry)-Sascha (January 11, 2012, 09:37 AM)
feature requests
close to tray on pressing the X
possibility to configure the directory for saving the database
possibility to configure the directory for saving the application-settings (ini)
possibility to change shortcuts like F2
do not autopaste items on pressing enter - only copy them to the clipboard (like ctrl+shift+c)
always show date and time for last saved items instead of e.g. "8 minutes ago"
do not block capturing when editing an item internally or externally. sometimes it is useful to capture a part of an existing clip and save it to a new clip
Ethervane Echo works great! I really like it and have a comment and a question.
1. As requested earlier in this forum, I too would like an "always-on-top" feature. I like to keep the clipboard open on top of other applications while I work. Setting the MinimizeOnDeactivate to "False" works to some degree, but requires me to lose some screen real estate.-jash (January 11, 2012, 10:46 AM)
2. Is there a way to change the settings so that clips are pasted in plain text by default when I single-click on a clip?
when trying to add cf_dib or other formats to the store-in-echo-list, the application crashes when clicking the ok-button (Error [EEchoInternalError]: TClpFormatRegistry: Clipboard format "cf_dib" (type: System) already exists in the registry)[/li][/list]-Sascha (January 11, 2012, 09:37 AM)
2. Is there a way to change the settings so that clips are pasted in plain text by default when I single-click on a clip?-jash (January 11, 2012, 10:46 AM)
Single-click? Then you could not navigate the tree (at least not with the mouse). You **can** have Echo paste as plain text by default (on Enter or double-click):
Preferences -> Pasting clips -> Priority formats -> select sfPlainText-tranglos (January 11, 2012, 12:39 PM)
Found and fixed. I'll upload a new release by the end of the week, but for now you can just replace your ethervaneecho.exe with the one attached to this message.Great support - thanks a lot!
I use some automatic mechanisms for my backups. Therefore I store all my application-configurartions in special folders.possibility to configure the directory for saving the databaseCould you explain why this would be useful? It'd help me design the best way to implement this. Echo already uses a fairly involved logic to figure out where to store the database and config (are we portable? Are we running from a removable drive? Is the removable drive read-only? etc.), and I have to be careful making any changes to these parts of the code.
possibility to configure the directory for saving the application-settings (ini)
Would it be sufficient if I added a command-line argument to specify the config and database directories? You could add it to the shortcut used to start Echo.Yeah, that would be really nice :)
I don't think it would be practicable to use more than one shortcut for one function. Let's leave it as that ;)possibility to change shortcuts like F2What would you use instead? I can easily add more than one shortcut for some functions. A complete keyboard customization would take more time. And there would be certain limitations, e.g. you cannot assign certain keys which are used when editing clips in-place or are necessary to navigate the tree, etc. It could be more trouble than it's worth.
I do not need that (I like what Ditto does). From my point of view you may disable it entirely ;) But I think i'll be better to make it customizable.do not autopaste items on pressing enter - only copy them to the clipboard (like ctrl+shift+c)Disable pasting entirely, or just swap the function of (Shift+)Enter and (Shift+)Ctrl+C?
Oops - I have overseen that - sorry.always show date and time for last saved items instead of e.g. "8 minutes ago"Preferences -> Display -> Friendly dates -> set to False
I added cf_dib, cf_dibv5 and cf_bitmap. Those formats where listed on the 'Formats currently on clipboard'-List after copying a bitmap from my screenshot-tool.
But I am not able to change the text-only-property for those entries. It will always be reset to 'Yes'. Maybe that will be the reason.-Sascha (January 12, 2012, 01:53 AM)
I had meant "double-click" in my original post. In any event, your recommendation to select "sfPlainText" does not seem to work for me: clips are still being pasted with original formatting rather than in plain text. Unless you are aware of a bug with "sfPlainText", I suppose the problem may well be on my end. I'm running Ethervane Echo in portable mode on a Win7 64bit machine.-jash (January 11, 2012, 08:54 PM)
:(Help! The help file headings show but none contain information. My system is a dual-core PowerSpec running Win 7 Professional 64bit, 4GB RAM, etc, etc. Any help gladly and deeply appreciated. Thank you very much in advance for your time and trouble in the timely resolution of this issue. [email protected]-Hermano (January 12, 2012, 08:27 PM)
Right-click on ethervaneecho.chm (to open the file properties) and click on "Unblock" button.-PhilB66 (January 12, 2012, 09:13 PM)
Ditto had a setting in the General tab called "Update Clip Time On Paste". I would always uncheck that myself when installing Ditto.
This is helpful for me when I do a lot of clipping in one app, then switch to another app and want to paste these various clips. When using Ethervane Echo, I will paste one of the clips, it then automatically goes up to the top and I then have to go searching back down the list to see where the next one was.-easye (January 13, 2012, 11:16 AM)
Is there a setting anywhere to have the clip time NOT be updated on pasting? I've searched through the settings and couldn't find one that did this (but I may have missed it).-easye (January 13, 2012, 11:16 AM)
feature requests
close to tray on pressing the X-Sascha (January 11, 2012, 09:37 AM)
feature requestsDone. Will be available in the next release.
close to tray on pressing the X-Sascha (January 11, 2012, 09:37 AM)-tranglos (January 14, 2012, 09:38 AM)
Hi Tranglos. Regarding the "Short" view on my 64-bit computer: I tried your suggestions but still got the same result (short clips aren't displayed on the Short tab). Relevant screenshots are shown below.-rashford (January 15, 2012, 07:42 AM)
The "All Clips" view show that there are short clips-rashford (January 15, 2012, 07:45 AM)
it would be nice, to have a preview-pane for the selected clip (first one for multiselect).
Most of my clips are code-snippets with more than 2 lines (MaxLinesPerItem := 2) and it is not very useful to load them to the editor for a preview :)-Sascha (January 16, 2012, 01:45 AM)
I fully understand your reason!
Maybe a Tooltip will do the job (like Dittos F3) - it should be a preview - no more, no less :)-Sascha (January 19, 2012, 07:18 AM)
And though I hate to admit it, I'm starting to feel a need for some additional metadata on clips. Not necessarily categories or tags, and not a tree hierarchy at all - just some way of "naming" or describing clips to find them easier. For example, every month I pay my bills online and need to find and paste a bunch of bank account numbers. But I can't find them by their digits :) So it would help to name a clip "electricity bill account", "tax account" etc.Clipmate has such a feature ;)-tranglos (January 19, 2012, 07:53 AM)
That's a possibility, although you cannot scroll a tooltip :) and it requires the mouse. Also, a tooltip would only show the "display text" part of a clip, which for larger clips may not be the complete text (depending on your settings).You'll make the right decision ;) (the need of using a mouse is :down: )
I've been thinking about a read-only side panel that can be hidden if not used. Maybe even with an optional binary / hex view so that you can inspect all formats of a clip besides just the plain text.-tranglos (January 19, 2012, 07:53 AM)
Clipmate has such a feature ;)-Sascha (January 19, 2012, 08:28 AM)
...Echo is not a very good note-takerI do not need one - I need Echo as it is (with some small improvements) ;)-tranglos (January 19, 2012, 09:01 AM)
New version released January 20: 1.0.5.108-tranglos (January 19, 2012, 09:14 PM)
ADDED (by popular request): Option to minimize Echo when the Close button on the title bar is clicked. This option is disabled by default. To enable it, click Tools -> Preferences -> Display -> MinimizeOnCloseButton and set the option to True. When enabled, you must use the File -> Exit command (or press Alt+F4) to really quit Echo.Thanks a lot!-tranglos (January 19, 2012, 09:14 PM)
ADDED: When you copy or paste a clip, Echo would always update the clip's timestamp, so that the clip would move to the top of the list when sorted by date. This is now optional: Preferences -> Pasting clips -> UpdateClipTimeStamp. This setting is still True by default, so that Echo's behavior does not change unless you modify this setting. (Thanks, Easye!)-tranglos (January 19, 2012, 09:14 PM)
possibility to configure the directory for saving the database
possibility to configure the directory for saving the application-settings (ini)-Sascha (January 12, 2012, 01:27 AM)
Hooray - thanks in advance :)possibility to configure the directory for saving the database
possibility to configure the directory for saving the application-settings (ini)-Sascha (January 12, 2012, 01:27 AM)
Done, the next release will have it. The custom folder can be specified in the master.config file or on command-line; the Help file will have all the details.-tranglos (January 22, 2012, 05:07 PM)
Adding to the application filter list some way to add modifiers to the program name, which must exist on the title of the window copying from, would probably be good enough.-yarond (January 22, 2012, 05:24 PM)
I agree with you all the way and have added your idea to the wishlist.
A better alternative is to be able to say "this application *and* any of these (partial) window titles". It would provide for better fine-tuning of the filters.
yarond, welcome to the site! :D-kyrathaba (January 24, 2012, 08:14 AM)
1. As requested earlier in this forum, I too would like an "always-on-top" feature.-jash (January 11, 2012, 10:46 AM)
New version released January 27: 1.0.6.110Thanks a lot, Marek! :Thmbsup:
ADDED: Echo can now store its database and configuration files in any user-specified folder. This works the same way for both the desktop and portable editions. Custom folder can be specified on the command line or in the master.config file. This is useful for example if you want Echo to keep its data and configuration in a folder that you can easily include in your backup.-tranglos (January 26, 2012, 08:19 PM)
hi tranglos i have 4 quick veiws set-up clips, sticky,urls, and all clips is there a way to fix it to have the stickys only show up in the stickys and the all clips quick veiw ive tried filters but the best i could come up with is using a time filter Ethervane Echo is working great thanks-hangdawg (January 26, 2012, 11:08 PM)
hi tranglos i have 4 quick veiws set-up clips, sticky,urls, and all clips
1. As requested earlier in this forum, I too would like an "always-on-top" feature.-jash (January 11, 2012, 10:46 AM)
Done in the latest release (out now). Please let mew know if there are any problems.-tranglos (January 26, 2012, 08:24 PM)
It's working fine for me on my Win7 (64bit) machine -- only the "Help" submenu windows appear behind the main window when the feature is on.-jash (January 28, 2012, 09:11 AM)
is there also a setting to keep the main window open/maximized after pasting clips? A similar setting already exists for copying clips, but I couldn't find one for pasting clips.
I'm using the latest Version 1.0.6.110 and have a question about deleting a clip. If I have a clip highlighted and delete using the keyboard or the context menu with the mouse it's gone. There is no confirmation whether I would like to delete the clip. I checked the preferences and Prompting > BeforeDeletingClips is set to True.-bob99 (January 28, 2012, 01:54 PM)
Also, is there any type of listing that tells what all of the individual preferences settings do? I've figured out some of them or read in earlier posts what others do. Chances are I won't use many of them, more of a learning experience for me.
One of my favorite features in Ditto is naming clips with quick paste text and searching them using /q. I am unsure if this feature is already available in Echo but please consider adding it.-nsathishk (January 28, 2012, 03:46 PM)
By default, Echo only prompts if you are deleting 10 clips or more. You can reduce that number to 1, so that Echo will always prompt:
Preferences -> Prompting -> ClipDeleteTrigger-tranglos (January 28, 2012, 03:40 PM)
By chance is there a pdf of the help?-bob99 (January 29, 2012, 11:54 AM)
Wow, I wasn't expecting it to be so professional looking on such short notice.
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]So you're an outlaw who's mental?-kyrathaba (January 29, 2012, 04:02 PM)
Agreed. His programs have always been very "kind" for the users. One of my favorite programmers for many years now.Wow, I wasn't expecting it to be so professional looking on such short notice.
In my experience, everything related to one of tranglos' apps looks slick/professional.-kyrathaba (January 29, 2012, 04:02 PM)
So you're an outlaw who's mental?
Wow, I wasn't expecting it to be so professional looking on such short notice.
In my experience, everything related to one of tranglos' apps looks slick/professional.-kyrathaba (January 29, 2012, 04:02 PM)
I totally agree! I just wasn't expecting it to be so "slick/professional" in the short amount of time after I asked if it was available.-bob99 (January 31, 2012, 07:36 AM)
shhh!! Don't give away your secrets! It's all voodoo and wizardry to us.I totally agree! I just wasn't expecting it to be so "slick/professional" in the short amount of time after I asked if it was available.-bob99 (January 31, 2012, 07:36 AM)
Okay, now is my face is red! The PDF is just a click of a button in Help and Manual (http://www.ec-software.com/), really :)
Meanwhile, a new release is coming with some more requests implemented around the clip editor. Among other things, Echo can now keep capturing clips when the editor dialog is open. And the editor now has a "Save as a new clip" button, which does just that.-tranglos (February 02, 2012, 09:39 AM)
I'd like to know if it's possible to introduce regular expression in Quick View Filters?Yeah - that would be nice!-migounanounet (February 10, 2012, 10:11 PM)
I'd like to know if it's possible to introduce regular expression in Quick View Filters?
In my case, I'd like to remind IPs for example...-migounanounet (February 10, 2012, 10:11 PM)
Just came here to thank you. I've been using Ditto for years, and finally I found the perfect replacement... There are too many features I love, so thanks a lot.-Pnikosis (February 07, 2012, 10:25 AM)
New release February 23! (Version 1.1.0 build 117)Is it a "back to the future" version?
Nice, clean, web site
New release February 23! (Version 1.1.0 build 117)Is it a "back to the future" version?-PhilB66 (February 12, 2012, 06:58 PM)
Nice, clean, web siteAgreed. Well done, tranglos.
New release February 23! (Version 1.1.0 build 117)Is it a "back to the future" version?-PhilB66 (February 12, 2012, 06:58 PM)
You'll catch up eventually :-)-tranglos (February 12, 2012, 08:58 PM)
hi tranglos ive got echo to start with windows but when restarting echo main window shows for a second or 2 as the desktop loads is there a setting to prevent the main window from showing it does this with the portable and the installed version thanks-hangdawg (February 13, 2012, 04:31 PM)
checking Minimized in the properties box fixed it in the installed version but no option to do so in the portable version-hangdawg (February 13, 2012, 09:23 PM)
but echo places 2 icons in the customize notifaction area only shows 1 in tray but not in customize heres a pic
- double click on icon Enables/Disables the clipping-robbero (February 17, 2012, 03:50 AM)
- Pin function (with automatic refresh when copying a text to clipboard)
- Pin function (with automatic refresh when copying a text to clipboard)-robbero (February 17, 2012, 03:50 AM)
If you mean the "stay ion top of other windows" feature, it was implemented in 1.0.6, the version before last. Grab the latest version here (http://www.tranglos.com/echo/echo-download/).-tranglos (February 17, 2012, 07:35 AM)
I checked it (1.1.0. 117)
Keep on top of other windows.
But it doesn't stay on top.-robbero (February 17, 2012, 11:19 AM)
ps: isn't it possible to put a little pin icon on the toolbar?
Tools -> Preferences -> Display -> MinimizeOnDeactivate and set this option to False.
If you already use that setting and stay on top still doesn't work as expected, please give more details.-tranglos (February 17, 2012, 11:32 AM)
First Echo would have to have a toolbar :-) I'm still in two minds about whether or not it needs one. If the toolbar appears, then this setting will be included.
I will add a keyboard shortcut though, and maybe an indication in the status bar.
no still something doesn't work as I want:
When I paste a clip ethervane echo hides again even when the "keep on top" feature is active.
I would like to keep it unhided (on top).
(MinimizeOnDeactivate is set to false)-robbero (February 17, 2012, 11:58 AM)
I would like to have it a bit different but it is already ok as it is.
I would like to hide the window when it is not active and
I would like to keep the window always when "keep on top" feature is active.-robbero (February 17, 2012, 11:40 AM)
I have read that Echo Eth. can restore itself without focus.
I haven't understand how to do this.-robbero (February 17, 2012, 04:32 PM)
Btw.. I once used ClipCube. In Clipcube it is possible to click on a clip item which copies the item and then paste it in another application. The program doesn't minimize and stay on top.
I'm not sure if it isn't self-defeating though, because you'll want to work in the application into which the text was pasted, rather than be returned to Echo. I'll release a new version and see what happens.-tranglos (February 17, 2012, 06:00 PM)
I noted that eth. echo does not minimize anymore at windows startup.
Is that because I changed MinimizeOnDeactivate to False?-robbero (February 19, 2012, 01:32 AM)
I noted that eth. echo does not minimize anymore at windows startup.
Is that because I changed MinimizeOnDeactivate to False?-robbero (February 19, 2012, 01:32 AM)
Yes. Minimizing at startup was only a side-effect of that setting. If you want Echo to always minimize at startup, there are two ways:
(a) Tools -> Preferences -> Startup behavior -> StartMinimized, set it to True.
(b) You can also make the equivalent setting in the shortcut used to start Echo. Right-click the shortcut, select Properties, and in the "Run" (or "Run as", not sure what the English version of Windows says) select "Minimized".-tranglos (February 19, 2012, 06:50 AM)
I did (a) + (b) but eth.echo doesn't minimize anymore at startup.-robbero (February 20, 2012, 02:32 AM)
From the description seems exactly what i was looking for !
A suggestion not much for add more but to simplify all that privacy options:
" encrypt " :" encrypt " is to send the text as input to a associate encrypt program, and retrieve back the output from it
If was this i would not need any of the others privacy options
PS several encrypt program may run from a USB pen-drive ....-PhotoComiX (February 20, 2012, 01:40 PM)
Not sure if this has been requested yet but I would like to be able to configure a sound file to play when a new clip was successfully added. I know this might be a little silly for some I need that reassurance without having to open the window to see my clip is there. I would really appreciate it :)-mentallo (February 21, 2012, 01:09 AM)
you can't click direct on an item when ethervane echo has not the focus:
The first click gives the focus back and selects the first item then the 2nd click is the item I need.
Maybe you can give the focus back immediately on the item I click (the item I want to copy or paste).
It gives also a problem pasting clips. p.e. when an external application has the focus and I want to clip an item from Ethervane Echo and I double click p.e. the 4th item, the 1st item will be pasted.-robbero (February 21, 2012, 01:51 AM)
I noted something strange.
When FinalWindowAction is set to waRestore
When "Stay on top" is disabled and
When minimizeondeactivate is set to true,
Ethervane Echo restores itself after clipping and immediately hide again.
When FinalWindowAction is set to waRestore
When "Stay on top" is enabled and
When minimizeondeactivate is set to true,
after pasting a clip (double click on item) and then copying a text in an external application ethervane echo doesn't clip the item.
I can't confirm this. Does this happen with the same configuration settings as you describe below?-tranglos (February 21, 2012, 07:17 AM)
That's because minimizeondeactivate is set to true. I'm sorry, it cannot work both ways at the same time. With that configuration, you are telling Echo to restore itself after pasting but also to minimize when it is not active. And, after pasting it is not active, as it shouldn't be, because you are working in some other application (the one into which you pasted a clip). The settings to stay on top and to restore after pasting only make sense when minimizeondeactivate is false.
Actually, the clip is captured, it just doesn't appear in the list. (Check it by switching to another view and back.) Echo just doesn't refresh the view, because it thinks it does not have to, because minimizeondeactivate is set to true :-)
Is there a way to remove the Taskbar icon?-mentallo (February 21, 2012, 10:30 PM)
The taskbar icon does NOT disappear for me even when the app is minimized. I have the setting set to True for "HideToTray".-mentallo (February 22, 2012, 01:14 PM)
I did (a) + (b) but eth.echo doesn't minimize anymore at startup.-robbero (February 20, 2012, 02:32 AM)
Dang, I'm drawing a blank here. Which version of Windows? Could you try using only (a), not (b) - or not both at the same time, anyway?
On my system Echo's internal option to minimize on startup works regardless of all the other settings, like stay on top or minimize on deactivate. I'll re-check the code, but right now I've no idea what could be going wrong.-tranglos (February 20, 2012, 09:10 AM)
I find this SW just now. Nice utility! ;D
I have a question... the "quick views" tab bar, can i put it to upper side, down to menu?-sakiskom (March 01, 2012, 03:53 AM)
Sorry, I think I posted in the wrong place before so this is a double post but hopefully now where it should be...?
I run an application called 'Stickies' which is a very well known , very popular desktop sticky / notes application. However whereas Ditto will paste directly into a desktop 'sticky' note, EE will not - other than using a 'manual' Ctrl-V. Any thoughts on that?-JeremyWW (March 01, 2012, 03:58 PM)
The ability to close the main window to the system tray using the X. Seems that isn't possible with EE and I've closed it completely by accident a few times this evening.
And ummm...images. I understand why they're not covered by EE but, for example, my daughter uses this extensively in her college work copying multiple image 'snippets' from the web to put into her assignment documents. Would it not be possible / acceptable to include the functionality in EE even if it's turned off by default?
Oh....and I can't get the English UK spell checking to work. EE can't find the dictionary...
Hi, go to Preferences (F5) then Display then right down at the bottom of the list look for ViewTabsPosition and on the right on that line change to "epTop" then Apply andOK, i find it! :)-joiwind (March 01, 2012, 06:24 AM)
And a second question... can i make the "quick views" tabs, bigger? I find many settings and change it, but i don't find that :tellme:-sakiskom (March 01, 2012, 08:45 PM)
(a) Can you give me the link for this application? I'd have to run it to see what happens. There are several reasons pasting might not work.-tranglos (March 01, 2012, 06:17 PM)
(b) When you paste in Stickies, does it work with Ctrl+V and Shift+Insert? Or only one of these key combinations?
(c) Try: Tools -> Preferences -> Pasting clips -> PasteMethod. By default this is set to Ctrl+V. Try changing it to Shift+Insert and see if it helps. (Although this might affect other applications).
This was added in one of the recent versions: Tools -> Preferences -> Display -> MinimizeOnCloseButton -> set it to True. However, remember that Echo will minimize whenever you click outside of it (or switch to another application). In practice, there is almost never any need to minimize Echo manually, it will minimize itself if you allow it.
(a) Are you using the standard or portable version? (Or have you changed from one to the other?)
(b) Does Echo display any other dictionaries (US English, for example)? Or are no dictionaries available at all?
(c) Click Tools -> Database information, and scroll down to the bottom. Near the end of the list you'll see "Spelling dictionary folders". There should be one or two directories listed there. Check if these directories exist and if they contain the dictionaries. If not, you can download and install the dictionaries separately on the Echo download page (http://www.tranglos.com/echo/echo-download/).
http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/stickies/-JeremyWW (March 02, 2012, 05:14 AM)
Spell checking while editing simply produces an error pop-up that tells me 'No Spelling dictionaries are available...' On installing EE initially I chose English (UK) and un-ticked the other 2 languages. In the Spellchecker section in Preferences it showed 'Last Language' as being English (US). After using the separate spell-checker installer the Spellchecker section appears as in my screen-shot here - no 'LastLanguage' and no 'DictionaryPath'. Changing the 'DictionaryPath' to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Ethervane\Common\Spell" (which is where the English (UK).adm file is) makes no difference. It still doesn't work, with the same error as above.
The tabs size automatically to fit the labels. I could set them to a fixed width, but then they may be too short if a view has a longer name.If you have the option to change manualy the font type and size from the labels, and then the tabs automatically fit to the fonts? :-[-tranglos (March 01, 2012, 08:57 PM)
I can confirm it doesn't work. Stickes seems to be doing something special with its windows - unlike normal application windows, they do not acquire focus when they become "uncovered", and without focus they cannot receive input.-tranglos (March 02, 2012, 11:30 AM)
The tabs size automatically to fit the labels. I could set them to a fixed width, but then they may be too short if a view has a longer name.If you have the option to change manualy the font type and size from the labels, and then the tabs automatically fit to the fonts? :-[-tranglos (March 01, 2012, 08:57 PM)-sakiskom (March 02, 2012, 08:20 PM)
Is this a question or a suggestion? (I'm not sure what you mean). Yes, if you changed the font of the labels, the tabs would become smaller or larger accordingly.We have this option now? Because i don't know how to do it.-tranglos (March 02, 2012, 08:35 PM)
Is this a question or a suggestion? (I'm not sure what you mean). Yes, if you changed the font of the labels, the tabs would become smaller or larger accordingly.We have this option now? Because i don't know how to do it.-tranglos (March 02, 2012, 08:35 PM)
If don't, then i hope to see this option on a newer version.-sakiskom (March 06, 2012, 01:39 PM)
I may have a bug in my Ethervane Echo program. When I click certain clips, the clip does not move to the clipboard. Instead, I get a message in the bottom right hand part of the window chrome saying "Can not load clip from database".-DanWilson (March 19, 2012, 02:30 PM)
I even deleted the clip, then recopied it into the clipboard but I got the same error. I'll email you the same database.-DanWilson (March 19, 2012, 09:33 PM)
I even deleted the clip, then recopied it into the clipboard but I got the same error. I'll email you the same database.
I run an application called 'Stickies' which is a very well known , very popular desktop sticky / notes application. However whereas Ditto will paste directly into a desktop 'sticky' note, EE will not - other than using a 'manual' Ctrl-V. Any thoughts on that?-JeremyWW (March 01, 2012, 03:58 PM)
Win 7 64
Ethervane will not show in systray at restart.
I have set it to show "icon and notification".
If I manually do that then it shows.
But at system restart it is hidden again.-silat (April 06, 2012, 03:40 PM)
Please help me.
I copy a few words from the webpage, then select them in the Echo and insert in a web form, but the word order is wrong. How do I get when inserting the words they have been allocated in the order in which I copied them?-Adm (April 18, 2012, 12:56 PM)
I notice that your program, has the ability to paste directly into the Active application.
That takes a bit of doing, as the clicking of the systray, steals the focus (Active'ness), and Windows does not place the focus (Active'ness) back to the previously Active Window, when the clicked systray program hides itself.
No doubt some API's are involved, to accomplish that feat.
Could you list those for me.-RobC (May 16, 2012, 05:01 AM)
Doing that, your program is quite happily doing the following -
- Pasting into FF URL textbox
- Pasting into Notepad, EditPadLite
- Pasting into Wordpad, Jarte
So it appears to me that you have solved, what I have not solved.
Could you list the steps that you are taking, between a user leaving their active application, to double clicking a clip.-RobC (May 16, 2012, 09:14 AM)
PS Any chance of the single click option ?
Using the hotkey to open the echo window always opens it in the same position regardless of where it was when I minimized/closed it.
This does NOT occur if I open the window by clicking the tray icon. I use a dual monitor setup so I want echo on my 2nd mon while I work on my main one.
I like to close windows that aren't used at the moment, but I always have to drag the window over if I use the hotkey.-strife (May 20, 2012, 11:33 AM)
Like the previous poster, I joined this site primarily to express my admiration for Echo. It's a fabulous piece of software, head and shoulders above the other clipboard extenders out there. The level of thought that went into the design is really impressive.-Lazy Moon (June 22, 2012, 01:05 PM)
I do however want to note that I have the same problem posted by Hangdog on January 7th and Silat on April 6th: in Windows 7 x64, for some reason, the status of the tray icon is not saved between sessions. In other words, when the tray icon is set to "Show icon and notifications", it appears, but it will not persist once the user has logged off. On the next login, the icon is hidden again and needs to be reset to "Show". The settings for the tray icons of every other application I'm using persist between sessions; Echo is the only exception. From earlier comments by Tranglos and others I gather this is not a problem in 32-bit versions of Windows, but there does seem to be something about Echo that makes it problematic for the 64-bit version to retain this particular setting, although I can't imagine what it is.
People are using the VB6 IDE in Win 7 64 bit.
VB6 only comes in a 32 bit version.-RobC (July 09, 2012, 11:39 AM)
What I meant was, what works for the Goose (VB6), should work for the Gander (Delphi)-RobC (July 09, 2012, 12:37 PM)
unless I can continue using the 32-bit version of Delphi.32 bit software, as most IDE's are, runs just nicely on 64 bit Windows, I've been doing it ever since the release of Vista x64, ~6 years ago 8)-tranglos (July 09, 2012, 11:29 AM)
The same thing was happening to me with Win7. Try starting it with 'Run as Administrator'. That worked for me.-bob99 (December 25, 2012, 10:56 PM)
Windows 7 is a PIA
Try right clicking the EXE, and choose Properties.
Then click the Compatibility Tab
First tick the checkbox that says something like 'do this for all users'.
That shows another identical dialog.
Up the top choose 'Run this program in compatibility mode' picking XP
Now go to the 5 checkboxes in the middle of the screen. Experiment with ticking some of those.
Possibly the top 3
What they do is tell Windows 7 to shove it's fancy aero, etc for this program.
You may have to do this for the EXE, and the shortcut that you use to launch the program.
The above is from memory, as I avoid using my Win 7 PC as much as possible.-RobC (December 26, 2012, 12:25 AM)
One of the things that Win 7 annoys me with is the smoke and mirrors it does with folders, not to mention the severe limitations as to where you have access(es) to.
Have you tried using the Echo portable version ?
Ensuring that you place the folder in spot where you have write access.-RobC (December 26, 2012, 06:31 AM)
Any update on a clip naming feature? I would find this massively useful - I have a load of sticky clips, some of them numeric and / or meaningless / easily forgotten. A name / tag would solve this for me.One of my favorite features in Ditto is naming clips with quick paste text and searching them using /q. I am unsure if this feature is already available in Echo but please consider adding it.-nsathishk (January 28, 2012, 03:46 PM)
Not available yet. I am considering something like it - an ability to assign names or tags to clips - but I need to find a way of implementing it without disturbing the basic design of the app. I've posted some thoughts on it earlier on in this thread, for example here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=27849.msg275191#msg275191) and here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=27849.msg275213#msg275213).
It's not likely to happen very soon, but it *is* on the wish list.-tranglos (January 28, 2012, 03:54 PM)
http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/stickies/-JeremyWW (March 02, 2012, 05:14 AM)
I can confirm it doesn't work. Stickes seems to be doing something special with its windows - unlike normal application windows, they do not acquire focus when they become "uncovered", and without focus they cannot receive input.
Here's a simple experiment:
- Start Word. It will have focus.
- Start Notepad. Word will now lose focus, and you can type in Notepad.
- Minimize Notepad.
- Word will now have focus again, you don't have to click it before you can start typing in Word again.
Now if you try the same with Stickes instead of Word, you'll see that in step 4 after you minimize Notepad, you still cannot type in Stickies. You have to click one of the notes first. This is why when Echo tries to paste the clip, Stickies does not "get the message" (figuratively and literally both).Spell checking while editing simply produces an error pop-up that tells me 'No Spelling dictionaries are available...' On installing EE initially I chose English (UK) and un-ticked the other 2 languages. In the Spellchecker section in Preferences it showed 'Last Language' as being English (US). After using the separate spell-checker installer the Spellchecker section appears as in my screen-shot here - no 'LastLanguage' and no 'DictionaryPath'. Changing the 'DictionaryPath' to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Ethervane\Common\Spell" (which is where the English (UK).adm file is) makes no difference. It still doesn't work, with the same error as above.
The "DictionaryPath" option is only used to add a custom dictionary folder to other folders Echo already checks for dictionaries. It's OK to use it as you did, but it should not be necessary.
Please check if the UK dictionary (English (UK).adm) exists in any of the folders listed in "Database information". I have attached the UK dictionary to this message. You can unzip it and copy it into that folder, then restart Echo.
One more thing: did you select the UK dictionary in the list, in the editor dialog box? Since originally there were no dictionaries, the "last language" option is empty, and no dictionary is selected by default. If you click the list at the top of the dialog box, the UK dictionary should be listed there. Perhaps all you need to do is to select the dictionary in the list.
In the next release I'll make sure to pick a dictionary automatically if only one is available.-tranglos (March 02, 2012, 11:30 AM)
I joined this site primarily to express my admiration for Echo.-Lazy Moon (June 22, 2012, 01:05 PM)
This (what shows up in the system tray) is entirely controlled by Windows, not by applications. All Echo does is instruct Windows to show its icon in the system tray, but it has no control over how it is displayed (icon, notifications only etc).
I'm not seeing the problem you describe on Windows 7 32-bit. Perhaps the 64-bit Windows treats 32-b it apps in this way, I'm afraid I have no idea.
The icon of Ethervane Echo all the time disappears from the tray.- this is Win 7 - it's right. I'm use Startup Delayer - no thouse problem.
I have two queries:
# can I save sort in a tab - in particular, I'd like saved clips in the "Sticky" tab to show Alphabetically and Ascending (it defaults to by date and descending on restart)-tomos (February 17, 2015, 07:39 AM)
# can I modify the copy key? e.g. Ctrl+Shift+C? (background: I'm only using EthervaneEcho for one project) - I did look in Settings but might have missed something...-tomos (February 17, 2015, 07:39 AM)
It would be cool if you could attach notes to clipboard items :)-Grimbly (April 30, 2015, 12:39 PM)
Should be available at https://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Clipboard/Ethervane-Echo.shtml#downloadThanks!-rgdot (February 06, 2022, 01:42 PM)
Let us know what happens if you actually run that :tellme:I did. Works fine -- should I be wary of it for some reason, or are you just wondering how it works on a modern version of Windows?-wraith808 (February 14, 2022, 02:11 PM)
Let us know what happens if you actually run that :tellme:I did. Works fine -- should I be wary of it for some reason, or are you just wondering how it works on a modern version of Windows?-wraith808 (February 14, 2022, 02:11 PM)
(Seems to work fine on Win 10)-tomos (February 14, 2022, 02:23 PM)