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Title: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 26, 2018, 04:30 AM
Unexpectedly SecreenshotCaptor doesn´t  start automatically when a link to it is placed in the autostart folder.
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Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: Ath on June 26, 2018, 05:05 AM
Just a guess: Windows 10, with all the latest updates? For some reason Windows 'forgets' to start some applications configured this way, I'm still hoping that it will get fixed, some day, but I'm not holding my breath...
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 26, 2018, 05:38 AM
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ScreenshotCaptor is the best utility by far regardless of autostart
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: KodeZwerg on June 26, 2018, 05:44 AM
Latest Version integrate with System Registry, not by autostart link.

Cheers

Letzte Version integriert sich per System-Registrierung und legt keinen Link im Autostart an.

Gruß

(HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run)
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 26, 2018, 06:08 AM
I´ll give it a go. I hoping I can handle that. Will report someday. Thx
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: KodeZwerg on June 26, 2018, 06:34 AM
With latest build, go to options and check that: [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] (you might need to run with adminrights since its writing to registry without aquiring some)
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 26, 2018, 11:53 AM
Could that be that your screenshot is from automaticScreenshotter, not from ScreenshotCaptor? And, so far,  I can´t find options in ScreenshotCaptor.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: Deozaan on June 26, 2018, 12:07 PM
And, so far,  I can´t find options in ScreenshotCaptor.

Edit -> Preferences
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 26, 2018, 12:25 PM
I found that. Thx. But I can´t find what is shown in ScreenshotCaptor Help. A view with a title bar (white letters on blue background: "Screenshot Captor Options") as here.
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Screenshot of ScreenshotCaptor Help, not of ScreenshotCaptor.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: wraith808 on June 26, 2018, 01:43 PM
What version of screenshot captor do you have?  That's a really old dialog... It's been a treeview for a while now.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: mouser on June 26, 2018, 01:53 PM
In the new preferences dialog it's on the "Startup Options" tab of the dialog, second down from top:
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Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: Deozaan on June 26, 2018, 02:05 PM
What version of screenshot captor do you have?  That's a really old dialog... It's been a treeview for a while now.

It's the help file that's out of date. I see the same screenshots of the settings in the help file that HelmutWe posted above.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: wraith808 on June 26, 2018, 02:27 PM
What version of screenshot captor do you have?  That's a really old dialog... It's been a treeview for a while now.

It's the help file that's out of date. I see the same screenshots of the settings in the help file that HelmutWe posted above.

Ah... ok, that makes sense.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: KodeZwerg on June 26, 2018, 03:43 PM
german explain on how to do things
Wenn Screenshot Captor (die aktuelle Version die man hier runterladen kann) in der Notification Area sein Icon abgelegt hat, rechtsklick auf das Icon, dann Preferences, da Konfiguriert man alles, gleich die erste Option ist für Autostart zuständig. Falls Dein Windows beim nächsten Boot den SC nicht lädt musst Du den SC mit Admin-Rechte starten, nochmal in Config das Autostart aktivieren, speichern und fertig. Ab nun lädt Dein Windows 10 auch den SC beim starten mit. Ich hoffe es hilft Dir und Dein Problem ist nun beseitigt. Ja die Hilfe Dateien beinhalten alte Bilder, darauf bin ich auch schon hereingefallen :-)
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 26, 2018, 03:57 PM
Danke für heute. Ich kontaktierte schon den Händler, der mir die Admin-Rechte vorenthalten hat, um mir in einer anderen Sache zu helfen.
Wird ein paar Tage dauern. Wenns klappt und auch wenns nicht klappte, melde ich mich wieder. Vielen Dank nochmal. Many thanks to all of you.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 26, 2018, 04:00 PM
Halt, bevor ihr euch schlafen legt, muss ich dann permanent den ScreenshotCaptor mit Admin-Rechten starten. Also immer Admin sein und bleiben?
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: KodeZwerg on June 26, 2018, 04:08 PM
sorry need more german to clarify things
Nur um die System-Registrierung zu aktualisieren braucht es bei Windows 10 Admin-Rechte, das Programm arbeitet tadellos ohne Admin-Rechte. (rechtsklick auf das Programm-Symbol, dann "Als Administrator ausführen", in den Optionen alles anpassen, speichern, Programm beenden und normal/wie üblich ohne Rechte starten)
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 26, 2018, 04:14 PM
Great community. Great support!
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 27, 2018, 02:53 AM
Another day, another try at hearing the meanwhile familiar >click< when hitting [PrtScr] after a reboot. Without opening captor at first. Can´t get it to work. No way:
I open Captor by clicking on the big icon on the desktop. Captor resides minimized in the notification area. Left click on the upwards arrow: Right click on the small captor icon. Left click preferences, ensure that "start with windows" is on. Repeat this procedure several times. Don´t know how often. But then after the n-th attempt, the left click on preferences makes the captor window to vanish.  No matter. It´s OK. "start with windows" is on anyway, I presume.  Open and run captor as admin: Allow changes: Yes: >Edit  >Preferences  "start with windows" is still on: [Apply] [Accept] [Close]: Check Autostart in Task-Manager: ScreenshotCaptor is activated. Reboot: [...]: No >click<: No Icon in the notifcation area. Disappointed. Do I expect too much?
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: Ath on June 27, 2018, 03:44 AM
I still assume it's a Windows thingy, other applications don't get started, even though their autostart is on, or link in Startup folder available :(
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 27, 2018, 05:10 AM
THx. Good to know. Anyway, i´ll stick with ScreenshotCaptor.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: KodeZwerg on June 27, 2018, 05:40 AM
Your Windows Admin Account may differ from Logon Account.
A fix would be porting the HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

If you do not know how to do this mouser could create a small Registration-Fixer for this situation.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: Ath on June 27, 2018, 05:58 AM
mouser could create a small Registration-Fixer for this situation
Please mind, this is not an application 'error', more of an anomaly of Windows itself.
Happens to other applications as well and depends on the local Windows installation, even though these applications write the settings there correctly...
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 27, 2018, 09:05 AM
@KodeZwerg: I certainly could handle your proposal, with some effort. But before I try: Is it very likely to work at least? Of course, in the end nobody knows. I do not demand a guarantee. I surely got the latest Versions of Windows and Captor.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: mouser on June 27, 2018, 09:31 AM
Let me take a look at the startup code and see if I can see anything.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on June 27, 2018, 11:16 AM
@mouser: Are you talking to me?
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: tomos on June 28, 2018, 02:01 AM
Let me take a look at the startup code and see if I can see anything.
@HelmutWe, (mouser is the software author) he's saying he will check out the Screenshot Captor code just in case the startup problem is its fault
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on July 09, 2018, 06:14 AM
As I could not find a better place for my suggestion although there is probably a better place I´ll post it here: I found out that ScreenshotCaptor remembers multiple hits of PrntScr. Like 10 times in a row within three seconds, which is a great feature anyway. The only drawback is that ScreenshotCaptor stops taking screenshots as soon as the screen didn´t change and displays an error message instead. Which happened only once, although I´m using ScreenshotCaptor a lot, maybe 1000 shots or more within four weeks.
I´d prefer ScreenshotCaptor to continue taking screenshots. Maybe add an error message to the screenshots, but not stopping.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: mouser on July 09, 2018, 07:57 AM
What does the error message say?
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on July 09, 2018, 11:57 AM
As far as I remember, it says that a screenshot is not sufficiently different from the preceding one. Maybe doesn´t differ in a single pixel. To the best of my memory. The message surprised me too much to record it.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: mouser on July 10, 2018, 01:01 AM
SC doesn't care about differences in screenshots -- but SC will by default complain if you capture an entire image that is only one color.. This is a check to make sure something hasn't gone wrong. You can disable this option here in the "Miscellaneous Tweaks" tab:
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Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on July 10, 2018, 01:44 AM
Thank you mouser.
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: HelmutWe on October 21, 2018, 04:00 AM
@mouser: It took me quite a time to find out that I had to run the setup as admin. As my PC-dealer told me I´d have all possible rights on my private PC that didn´t occur to me. Anyway, there is no problem anymore. Whether to decide if this is a case of "problem solved" or "problem vanished" I don´t know. And the autostart-option takes some seconds before it is recognizable. That is i have to try some screenshots before I hear the meantime familiar click sound. :)
@Kodezwerg: Dein Hinweis "Your Windows Admin Account may differ from Logon Account" war eigentlich goldrichtig. Ich habs nur nicht kapiert, weil mein Händler mir sagte, ich hätte alle Rechte. Ja, es gibt einen Unterschied zwischen Window Account und Logon Account. Bedauerlicherweise weisen weder Acronis noch Avast auf sowas hin. :)
Title: Re: ScreenshotCaptor (Link) in autostart
Post by: KodeZwerg on October 21, 2018, 05:18 AM
Bedauerlicherweise weisen weder Acronis noch Avast auf sowas hin. :)
german: Aber ich hehehehe schön das der Tipp ins Schwarze traf :)