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Main Area and Open Discussion => General Software Discussion => Topic started by: cyberdiva on June 18, 2012, 08:07 AM
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Hi, all. I'm trying to get more information about something I've just been told about Google Chrome. Yesterday, I received a spam message from someone I know. I assumed that her email account had been hacked, and I wrote to her to let her know. Today, I received a reply from her, saying that "Actually, there is some kind of security gap in Google Chrome that allows a bad website to send out spam from my account." I'm highly skeptical of this explanation. I'd imagine that 1) if there were so serious a flaw in Chrome, there would have been mention of it in lots of places that I read, and 2) Google would have quickly found a way to fix it. I don't use Chrome, but if I did, I'd drop it like a hot potato if it had such a flaw. Has anyone here heard of or experienced this flaw?
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Yesterday, I received a spam message from someone I know.
-cyberdiva
Just for the record, when you say "from", do you mean you checked the headers and it looked like it was a message genuinely sent from her account, or just that the "From:" field in the e-mail contained her e-mail address?
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Just for the record, when you say "from", do you mean you checked the headers and it looked like it was a message genuinely sent from her account, or just that the "From:" field in the e-mail contained her e-mail address?
-Jibz
Good question, Jibz. The message was such obvious spam that I didn't bother to check the headers. I simply assumed that someone had hacked her MSN email account and was now sending spam to everyone in her addressbook. I wrote to let her know, and in response I got the explanation I quoted in my original message here. It didn't seem like a likely explanation, so I thought I'd post a message here and see whether anyone has heard of a similar "problem" with Chrome. But now that you've asked, I looked at the headers. There weren't a lot, especially before the message was received at my university (where I have the email account to which the message was sent). Here are some key pieces of info from the headers (I've changed the name of the person I know to janedoe and my university's address to ********.edu):
The return path header was Return-Path: <[email protected]>
The headers from the start to when it got to my university were as follows:
Received: from snt0-omc4-s11.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s11.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.214])
by ********.edu (mx3.********.edu) with ESMTP id q5I2vdq7025380
for <cyberdiva@********.edu>; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:57:41 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from SNT102-W47 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s11.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);
Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:57:38 -0700
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_cea715e6-4a2e-4c6d-9814-454a114fd041_"
X-Originating-IP: [189.224.78.19]
From: Jane Doe <[email protected]>
If the Originating IP # is not forged, it's in Mexico. I don't know where this person lives (I "know" her only via listservs we're both on); I kinda doubt she's in Mexico, though it's not impossible. The message-ID ends in @phx.gbl, which is apparently something that appears in many messages from Microsoft-related mail. Since she's got an account at msn.com, I guess that makes sense. Perhaps so too does the appearance of hotmail.com in one of the headers, I don't know. All the unshown headers after these (leading up to the Return-Path header) look normal. They're all internal to my university.
So no, it's not just the "From" field that makes me think it came from her account, but the Originating-IP in Mexico does give me pause. I'm not sure, however, whether the headers indicate clearly whether her email account was simply hacked or whether somehow a "bad website" was able to send spam from her account (her explanation). Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
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I'd go with Hotmail hacked. It's happened to me, same kind of thing, everyone in my Hotmail contacts started receiving spam saying it was from me.
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I'd go with Hotmail hacked. It's happened to me, same kind of thing, everyone in my Hotmail contacts started receiving spam saying it was from me.
-nudone
Yeah, the headers look fairly believable, and if there was some security hole that would allow this in any browser, I am sure it would be widely publicized.
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Thanks, nudone and Jibz. I tend to agree with you. I can't imagine why she thinks it's a security hole in Chrome that is causing this, especially since there doesn't seem to have been any publicity about this rather serious problem. And yes, I know several people who have had their hotmail accounts hacked. But is hotmail the same as msn? I hadn't thought so, though they're both Microsoft. She's got an msn.com address. Oh well, no reason that msn is any safer than hotmail.
Again, many thanks. I figure if the folks at DonationCoder haven't heard about this supposed security hole, it probably doesn't exist.
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Actually, I was hit by something similar via my Yahoo email account just a few weeks ago
I clicked on a link (in an email that I thought was valid) but did not verify the link first. Yeah , stupid I know.
It was an email from a friend and the subject matter appeared similar to what we'd been discussing recently.
I was signed into my email a/c at the time and the Javascript code on the site managed to access my Yahoo contacts and broadcast the same spam link to many of my contacts - including subscription list email addresses. Ticked me off no end.
I was using Opera 11.64 at the time and thought my Yahoo a/c had been hacked.
The IP sign-in logs in the Yahoo account had only my IP address - the last sign-in was the day before.
If anyone would like see the specific links, PM me.
Phishing target site at WOT: http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/wa15news.net
Whois info : http://whois.domaintools.com/wa15news.net
This was one target site as well: http://whois.domaintools.com/ca15news.net
Pity it was not caught by OpenDNS phishing checks.
Unfortunately, I also had Opera's Fraud and Malware Protection turned off (not any more though).
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That is interesting .. just for clarity, were you looking at the e-mail where you clicked a link from within your yahoo account, or was it somewhere else? I hope it is not possible to access stuff like your address book from remote sites.
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Yeah I've heard of this security problem before. It's called PEBKAC. Unfortunately it is a vulnerability that exists with all browsers. :(
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...were you looking at the e-mail where you clicked a link from within your yahoo account ...
-Jibz
Yes - did a right-click then open in background tab.
.. It's called PEBKAC ..
-Deozaan
I trust you enjoyed that.
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...were you looking at the e-mail where you clicked a link from within your yahoo account ...
-Jibz
Yes - did a right-click then open in background tab.
.. It's called PEBKAC ..
-Deozaan
I trust you enjoyed that.
-NigelH
Well, if the browser allows arbitrary javascript in one tab to do stuff on another tab, I would call that more of a browser problem than an "Error 40". Or perhaps a web e-mail API problem?