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Title: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: wraith808 on May 04, 2015, 11:17 AM
Sorry about the lateness of this, but I just found out.  A very interesting project, bringing me out of my blah about posting projects...

Onion Omega (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onion/onion-omega-invention-platform-for-the-internet-of)
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Goal$15,000 ($249,094 as of this posting)
End Date2015-05-05
Project Creator(s)Onion.io (https://onion.io/)
Personal Rating:Total Rating 9 - Cautiously Back It $25 - Rating Based on Working, Professional Looking Website (+1), First Project (-1), Backed 23 Projects (+2), Professional Looking video (+1), Working Prototypes (+5), Kickstarter Pick (+1)
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Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: Renegade on May 04, 2015, 12:02 PM
That looks extremely cool.

However, I'm still pretty much terrified of IoT.

I've read the policy papers and whatnot, and I'm utterly terrified.

Know what the "security" section reads?

Out of scope.

While this looks like a really cool little device, the security issue in IoT is still an issue.

For example, your nice little Wi-Fi equipped automatic cat feeder provides a way for Johnny Nasty to download kitty pron onto other device on your network. Cue the police, and your days as a kitty cat rights activist are doomed.

But that's just the start.

Would I use it... Probably if it fit my needs.

But... I'm still pretty much on the terrified side for now.

The lure of being able to program in any language against an API to deal with all that stuff... that's just way too cool...

I need to learn Python.
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: 4wd on May 04, 2015, 07:53 PM
It's cheaper for the Onion+Dock+OLED than it is for the MicroView (http://littlebirdelectronics.com.au/search?type=product&q=microview)+Dock, and more capable.

Crap, there goes more money I could use elsewhere ... curse you wraith!
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: SeraphimLabs on May 05, 2015, 11:49 AM
Using a .io domain name instead of one of the major TLDs. -3 right off the top

I have had a lot of problems with sites on .io domains being either ponzi schemes or outright scams.

The concept is solid though, and if they have a working prototype then it looks to me like this could be a very interesting thing.

It even uses a Linux based OS that I am familiar with, using OpenWRT-equipped routers as wifi hotspots in my workplace in favor of actual business class access points.

I'll keep tabs on it as it progresses.
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: mwb1100 on May 05, 2015, 01:00 PM
My personal take on it was that they had more than enough Kickstarter support without me, and they promised to open-source their hardware designs.  I figure if it turns into something successful, there will be plenty of opportunities to buy Onion Omega devices and add-ons.
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: wraith808 on May 05, 2015, 01:26 PM
Using a .io domain name instead of one of the major TLDs. -3 right off the top
-SeraphimLabs (May 05, 2015, 11:49 AM)

So you discredit all sites on a TLD rather than the specific sites?  Because there are more .com scams than there are .io domains in all likelihood.  Just saying...
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: Deozaan on May 05, 2015, 02:48 PM
Using a .io domain name instead of one of the major TLDs. -3 right off the top
-SeraphimLabs (May 05, 2015, 11:49 AM)

The only .io sites I've heard of have been reputable. Two off the top of my head:

http://itch.io/
http://twil.io/
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: SeraphimLabs on May 05, 2015, 04:25 PM
Using a .io domain name instead of one of the major TLDs. -3 right off the top
-SeraphimLabs (May 05, 2015, 11:49 AM)

The only .io sites I've heard of have been reputable. Two off the top of my head:

http://itch.io/
http://twil.io/
-Deozaan (May 05, 2015, 02:48 PM)

It may very well be legit.

But lately I've seen a lot of startups and pump & dump scams with sites based on the .io tld.

Most of them have been bitcoin related though.

The general plan though is to pitch an idea and collect funding for it, then go quiet for a few months during which time little progress is made, followed by a surge of drama as a web of lies comes crashing in.

Its not at all for certain, especially because there are a lot of scams on any TLD out there, but seeing a new startup using .io is making me a little hesitant. Beyond that everything else looks amazing, I want to try these devices out.
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: wraith808 on May 13, 2015, 09:18 AM
That looks extremely cool.

However, I'm still pretty much terrified of IoT.

I've read the policy papers and whatnot, and I'm utterly terrified.

Know what the "security" section reads?

Out of scope.

While this looks like a really cool little device, the security issue in IoT is still an issue.

For example, your nice little Wi-Fi equipped automatic cat feeder provides a way for Johnny Nasty to download kitty pron onto other device on your network. Cue the police, and your days as a kitty cat rights activist are doomed.

But that's just the start.

Would I use it... Probably if it fit my needs.

But... I'm still pretty much on the terrified side for now.

The lure of being able to program in any language against an API to deal with all that stuff... that's just way too cool...

I need to learn Python.
-Renegade (May 04, 2015, 12:02 PM)

In a timely response to your concerns, O'reilly has a 50% off today (5/12/2015) only (but available normally) Deal/Day: Save 50% - Abusing the Internet of Things (http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920033547.do)

The code to get the discount is DEAL - for $21.49 (normally $42.99)
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: wraith808 on September 14, 2015, 07:14 PM
I just got a note that this is shipping!  So, I should hopefully be able to post more soon!  Very Excited!
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: 4wd on September 15, 2015, 06:09 AM
Same here ... it'll be able to sit on the desk next to the unused RasPi B and B+ as well as the unused Arduino ... company for those guys at last!

 :P
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: mouser on September 15, 2015, 07:40 AM
Same here ... it'll be able to sit on the desk next to the unused RasPi B and B+ as well as the unused Arduino ... company for those guys at last!
-4wd (September 15, 2015, 06:09 AM)

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Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: 4wd on November 10, 2015, 03:52 AM
The Onion has landed!

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And next to his desktop friends:

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Although the RasPi2 has now been configured as a Tor WiFi Hotspot.
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: Renegade on November 12, 2015, 02:32 AM
^ Behold... it cometh...
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: wraith808 on November 12, 2015, 02:21 PM
I have mine also- but I've not been able to do anything with it.  The power switch broke off first thing- and I'm not the only one.  They said I can turn it on with a needle, but I haven't gotten around to trying.
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: Deozaan on November 12, 2015, 03:16 PM
The power switch broke off first thing- and I'm not the only one.
-wraith808 (November 12, 2015, 02:21 PM)

Ouch! :(

I tried looking for specs for the Onion Omega, but they're surprisingly scant. The promo pages say it can run "full Linux" which makes me think it's x86 or x86_64. But small devices like this are typically ARM. Can anyone here provide clarification on the architecture of this thing?
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: ewemoa on November 12, 2015, 03:42 PM
According to:

  http://community.imgtec.com/hardware/single-hardware/onion-omega/

Onion Omega features a MIPS CPU from Qualcomm Atheros and runs Linux (OpenWrt)
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: Deozaan on November 12, 2015, 04:52 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: 4wd on November 12, 2015, 05:52 PM
From the Kickstarter campaign:

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Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: Deozaan on November 12, 2015, 06:41 PM
From the Kickstarter campaign:

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-4wd (November 12, 2015, 05:52 PM)

Yeah, I saw that. But "Atheros AR9331 400Mhz" didn't tell me what architecture the CPU was. I suppose I could/should have googled the specific make/model to find out, but for some reason I didn't think of that at the time. :D
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: 4wd on December 15, 2015, 07:41 PM
It lives!

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Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: wraith808 on December 15, 2015, 09:00 PM
Nice!  I didn't realize the screen was going to be so small!
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: mouser on December 15, 2015, 09:27 PM
fun!!!!!
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: Renegade on December 15, 2015, 10:42 PM
It lives!

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-4wd (December 15, 2015, 07:41 PM)

Nicely done!  :Thmbsup:

Are you taking requests? I'd like to see a kangaroo taco~! :P NOM NOM NOM~!
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: 4wd on December 15, 2015, 11:02 PM
It's a lot cleaner when displaying text, (a better quality image would probably help too), you can choose what to display, (and scroll), through the web console.

Would have had it going a month ago but I forgot to order the dock so I could actually plug the display in  :-\

Pretty simple to put something on the display:
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Are you taking requests? I'd like to see a kangaroo taco~! :P NOM NOM NOM~!
-Renegade (December 15, 2015, 10:42 PM)

Not going to work too well on a monochrome screen :)

Don't tell me you're missing skippy?
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: wraith808 on December 15, 2015, 11:09 PM
I'm still at a standstill.  Got a needle, but I can't get the power on.  Might order a dock... but they're backordered.
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: Renegade on December 15, 2015, 11:21 PM
Are you taking requests? I'd like to see a kangaroo taco~! :P NOM NOM NOM~!
-Renegade (December 15, 2015, 10:42 PM)

Not going to work too well on a monochrome screen :)

Don't tell me you're missing skippy?
-4wd (December 15, 2015, 11:02 PM)

Just hungry... 8)
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: 4wd on December 15, 2015, 11:32 PM
I'm still at a standstill.  Got a needle, but I can't get the power on.  Might order a dock... but they're backordered.
-wraith808 (December 15, 2015, 11:09 PM)

I guess I should be glad I forgot to order the dock then, given the problems that have been had with the power switch.
Title: Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
Post by: wraith808 on December 16, 2015, 07:31 AM
I'm still at a standstill.  Got a needle, but I can't get the power on.  Might order a dock... but they're backordered.
-wraith808 (December 15, 2015, 11:09 PM)

I guess I should be glad I forgot to order the dock then, given the problems that have been had with the power switch.
-4wd (December 15, 2015, 11:32 PM)

Less than impressed with their response to the power switch fiasco.  They did accept responsibility, which is good.  But they're trying their damnedest not to take responsibility for a solution to their existing base.  Some people can get them on... and that's fine.  But there's literally nothing left in the slot for me to move with a needle.  Their last response was send us a close-up picture and we'll try to see what you're working with and how to use the needle.