... Light Alloy is still slowly being developed. However, they are doing it all in Russian.-superboyac (December 07, 2009, 03:22 AM)
Oh, I should clear that up. You have to go into the Preferences menu, change the language to English, and everything will be fine. I'm at work right now, so I can't give a screenshot, but i can later tonight.... Light Alloy is still slowly being developed. However, they are doing it all in Russian.-superboyac (December 07, 2009, 03:22 AM)
Have you (anyone) figured out what font the Light Alloy user will need, in order so see the proper Cyrillic characters in the program (not the site)? The titles are easy to read, but the mouse-over texts makes no meaning.-Curt (December 07, 2009, 05:45 PM)
Hm, when you mentioned "SMPlayer" I kind of figured you meant SPlayer, but I see there is also an SMPlayer. So, if you haven't tried Splayer, you might want to check it out:Splayer is very, very nice. I will have to compare its speed with Light Alloy when I get home. I like it a lot. If it is slower than LA, it's not by much. Nice find. It's nice looking as well, and has some cool options.
http://www.splayer.org/index.en.html
It claims speed and low memory use as advantages. I've found it's pretty decent, I'm testing it as a secondary or even replacement for my current favorite The KMPlayer.
However, I do have another thought. Have you looked into optimizing The KMPlayer? For example if you're willing to use a player without built-in codecs, you could turn off all it's own codecs. Not sure if this would make it faster... or slower. But something to test. Also I imagine what video renderer you use affects this. I know there are many more options that affect this, such as playlist reading modes, etc, etc. I would think there is probably optimization-related discussion on the KMPlayer forums (hopefully in the English part :D). If you do look into that, let us know if you find anything promising, as it's something I'd be interested in too.
Good luck!
- Oshyan-JavaJones (December 07, 2009, 03:19 AM)
2superboyacI have tried it, and removed it. Although i don't really remember why. It may have been because it was a little too minimalist for me.
Just wondering:
did you try to use command line version of mplayer.hu (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html)?
The engine is the same as for SMPlayer but getting rid off GUI made it the quickest one on my PC. Original version also had dhahelper.sys driver which increased its speed a lot. Even though there are a lot of good players I am still using it as default one (sorry KMPlayer).
Oh! And there is also Total Commander plugin to use this application through lister interface. I don't dare to dream for more ;)-fenixproductions (December 07, 2009, 06:47 PM)
Hmmmm...I just tried that LightAlloy build you attached. I couldn't get it to play video for any type of file I tried (avi, mpg, mkv, or vob). It would play the audio but not the video. Furthermore, it didn't seem any faster than the MPC(HC)/CCCP combo I've used for years. In fact, MPC seemed faster to me. *shrug* I don't mean this post as a flame...I'm just posting my thoughts.It doesn't come with codecs internally. The codecs need to be configured on your system for it to play video. it's not the player's fault. MPC is pretty fast also. To be honest, I don't know why I ever stopped using MPC. Years ago, i think I was just looking for newer programs to play with and MPC wasn't playing everything the way I wanted and/or there were errors every now and then. All this stuff depends on what each person's video habits are.-skwire (December 07, 2009, 07:15 PM)
It doesn't come with codecs internally. The codecs need to be configured on your system for it to play video. it's not the player's fault.-superboyac (December 07, 2009, 07:25 PM)
I'm not sure then. That's one of the areas I'm not too good at. I don't know how the system and video players figure out how to decode a video, nor do I know how to configure settings too much. I understand for the internal ones like VLC, everything is just packaged with the program. But with the ones that depend on your system configuration, it's an area I'm weak at.It doesn't come with codecs internally. The codecs need to be configured on your system for it to play video. it's not the player's fault.-superboyac (December 07, 2009, 07:25 PM)
Yes, I know. I have the CCCP codec pack installed; LightAlloy should be able to use those codecs.-skwire (December 07, 2009, 07:42 PM)
...I kind of figured you meant SPlayer, ..., you might want to check it out:
http://www.splayer.org/index.en.html-JavaJones (December 07, 2009, 03:19 AM)
Superboyac: What do you want to configure in Splayer that you can't do?Mouse button customization. Most of these programs have options to assign functions to left-mouse, right-mouse buttons. Also, program double-click function, etc.-JavaJones (December 08, 2009, 12:54 PM)
Superboyac: What do you want to configure in Splayer that you can't do?Mouse button customization. Most of these programs have options to assign functions to left-mouse, right-mouse buttons. Also, program double-click function, etc.-JavaJones (December 08, 2009, 12:54 PM)-superboyac (December 08, 2009, 01:37 PM)
Another vote here for MPC-HC - the only player I use, (in it's portable version). Single executable, integrated codecs, fully customisable keys/mouse.OOh! It's portable? I'm going to add it to my USB drive.
It works on W7 and is also available in x64.-4wd (December 08, 2009, 05:25 PM)
OOh! It's portable? I'm going to add it to my USB drive.-superboyac (December 08, 2009, 08:50 PM)
MPC-HC is very, very nice! I like it. I may have found my default portable player.OOh! It's portable? I'm going to add it to my USB drive.-superboyac (December 08, 2009, 08:50 PM)
Being a single executable kind of makes that easy :)
Just check the box Options->Player->Store settings to .ini file-4wd (December 09, 2009, 06:21 AM)
SPlayer has a MSN account. Its [email protected].- thanks! :up:-Zero3K (December 08, 2009, 05:55 PM)
Thank you for making the fine SPlayer, and even more for offering it for free!
Feature requests:
Option to 'Close (not exit) to sys-tray, on Escape-button'.
Option to 'Do not create a playlist'.
(...)
Kind regards,
MPC-HC is very, very nice! I like it. I may have found my default portable player.-superboyac (December 09, 2009, 10:49 AM)
I'm not sure what the obsession is with speed, though. I'll gladly give up a second or so in launch time for the sheer humongous amount of tweaking/tuning options KMPlayer gives me.No you wouldn't!-Innuendo (December 09, 2009, 11:15 PM)
Thanks Curt! He described exactly the scenario I had in mind.I'm not sure what the obsession is with speed, though. I'll gladly give up a second or so in launch time for the sheer humongous amount of tweaking/tuning options KMPlayer gives me.No you wouldn't!-Innuendo (December 09, 2009, 11:15 PM)
:o
Sorry for telling you what you would like, I have no right to do so. But superboyac did not ask for features or user-friendliness, or anything else than speed - in order to stop wasting time when he's walking through a collection of video files in Explorer, searching for the right one. There is no substitute for speed in such a case. If it furthermore is okay to wait another second or two, when you want to somehow edit or otherwise manage a file, then there is no need at all to have your favourite player set to also be the default player - you can merely right-click the file and make your choice.-Curt (December 10, 2009, 10:00 AM)
In Vista and 7 when dragging the player is immediately displayed behind Windows Explorer. This is very annoying when watching tutorial series which consist of many smaller videos, Alt+Tab'ing all the time.-libeco (December 10, 2009, 06:28 AM)
In Vista and 7 when dragging the player is immediately displayed behind Windows Explorer. This is very annoying when watching tutorial series which consist of many smaller videos, Alt+Tab'ing all the time.-libeco (December 10, 2009, 06:28 AM)
In MPC-HC, try right-click on the window and choose: View->On Top->While Playing-4wd (December 10, 2009, 07:12 PM)
As far as I can or can't see, SPlayer and MPC-HC is one and the same program.-Curt (December 09, 2009, 05:24 PM)
... I would gladly have a hundred hotkeys less, in exchange for these minor changes.-Curt (December 08, 2009, 04:12 PM)
I guess SPlayer is the more advanced version-Curt (December 11, 2009, 03:08 AM)
- hmm..: No! The BossKey has a side effect; the player doesn't pop up, when a video is double-clicked.
Argh! For a moment I thought everything was perfect.
And now WordWeb will no longer close on Escape!!-Curt (December 11, 2009, 03:40 PM)
- is this ALL true? To my (lack of) understanding, if I press Close, MPC will merely close the file, and stay in position on screen, not Close-and-minimize-to-systray. But of course, MPC also has hundreds of keys and settings, I might not have reached the proper combination yet.-Curt (December 11, 2009, 06:12 PM)
Hahaha... ;D ;D
I love this guy, the author of Light Alloy.
...
I get it! It's a riddle. Cool. Anyone?-superboyac (December 12, 2009, 12:02 AM)
The Russian SLO.RU (http://www.slo.ru/files/video_players/light_alloy) states Light Alloy to be freeware, so the answer to the riddle may not be too difficult, for Russians... (unless the SLO version is a special SLO-Russian version).-Curt (December 12, 2009, 04:31 AM)
Yeah, but it seems like you have to be able to solve the riddle to find out what to enter in the registration fields.The Russian SLO.RU (http://www.slo.ru/files/video_players/light_alloy) states Light Alloy to be freeware, so the answer to the riddle may not be too difficult, for Russians... (unless the SLO version is a special SLO-Russian version).-Curt (December 12, 2009, 04:31 AM)
Actually it says on the Softella (http://www.softella.com/la/index.ru.htm) website: Free for the Russian speaking population.
So, technically, if you can speak Russian you can use it for free.-4wd (December 12, 2009, 06:08 PM)
For discussion of all issues there is a forum in which even works search.
However, if you have an irresistible urge to send a message to the author the player, here you can do it.
Be aware that the likelihood that you will receive a response almost zero, but perhaps, your message will be read.
Yeah, but it seems like you have to be able to solve the riddle to find out what to enter in the registration fields.-superboyac (December 13, 2009, 12:31 AM)
if your time is worth anything it would long ago have been cheaper to simply purchase that $20 license, wouldn't it.Curt, I've already bought a license years ago. I'm just having a little fun.-Curt (December 13, 2009, 09:40 AM)
if your time is worth anything it would long ago have been cheaper to simply purchase that $20 license, wouldn't it.-Curt (December 13, 2009, 09:40 AM)
The more from it you take, the more it becomes-superboyac (December 13, 2009, 02:26 AM)
or taxes?-Shades (December 13, 2009, 03:41 PM)
KMPlayer can do all the fancy offset stuff, fairly customizable, both for audio/video and subs. I think you can even save offsets associated with a particular file name for future use...There's pretty much nothing that KMPlayer can't do. But Light Alloy is significantly faster in starting up (double-click launch).
- Oshyan-JavaJones (December 16, 2009, 05:47 PM)
There's pretty much nothing that KMPlayer can't do. But Light Alloy is significantly faster in starting up (double-click launch).-superboyac (December 16, 2009, 07:23 PM)
There's pretty much nothing that KMPlayer can't do. But Light Alloy is significantly faster in starting up (double-click launch).-superboyac (December 16, 2009, 07:23 PM)
KMPlayer is just awesome. When i need fast nothing is faster than hitting F3 in Total Commander. :)-Innuendo (December 16, 2009, 10:29 PM)
If anyone runs into a free Windows player that plays BluRay discs please post.-MilesAhead (December 16, 2009, 11:34 PM)
Hmm... I thought pressing F3 in TC was View File? Is that a custom config? Or are there features that I don't know about?-J-Mac (December 17, 2009, 01:31 AM)
Hmm... I thought pressing F3 in TC was View File? Is that a custom config? Or are there features that I don't know about?-J-Mac (December 17, 2009, 01:31 AM)
Yep, F3 is View File & there are a few plugins available that will provide functionality to view movies. For the super-impatient there's also a plugin to play mp3s, flacs, apes, etc. as well. With a little time & effort spent there's not much that Total Commander can't do.-Innuendo (December 17, 2009, 11:13 AM)
If anyone runs into a free Windows player that plays BluRay discs please post.-MilesAhead (December 16, 2009, 11:34 PM)
I think if anyone were to come out with such a thing The Man would swoop down on them pretty fast. Licensing fees must be paid to Big Brother and all that, you know.-Innuendo (December 17, 2009, 11:10 AM)
... Then again, with the younger generation it seems before the Garden of Eden was even created, there was cable TV(what do you mean it wasn't always there? You're crazy!!)-MilesAhead (December 17, 2009, 01:16 PM)
...All the files play on FLV Player with no problems...Ideas?-mrainey (December 26, 2009, 10:01 AM)
I think if anyone were to come out with such a thing The Man would swoop down on them pretty fast. Licensing fees must be paid to Big Brother and all that, you know.-Innuendo
... Universal Viewer (http://www.uvviewsoft.com/) ... this brilliant freeware multi-format player.-sajman99 (December 26, 2009, 01:15 PM)
... Universal Viewer (http://www.uvviewsoft.com/) ... this brilliant freeware multi-format player.-sajman99 (December 26, 2009, 01:15 PM)
How many plugins are necessary / what can it do by itself ? Isn't it $23 ?-Curt (December 26, 2009, 06:51 PM)
License: the main application is freeware; the add-on "Navigation Panel" is shareware (requires registration)
System requirements: Windows All (32-bit), MS Internet Explorer 4.0+
I just gave KM Player a try, and on my system it opens and starts actually playing videos much faster than Light Alloy does. It plays the flv's that Light Alloy choked on. It has far more features and overall polish. It's a much better program by any standard I can think of.There's no question KMPlayer is a better overall program with loads more features. I find it hard to believe it starts fast than LA, but you never know. I wouldn't be surprised if LA didn't handle flv files well. flv files don't seem to be well supported by a lot of players. But, still, from my experiences, for normal like avi/mpg/etc, LA is significantly faster to load than KMP. But KMP is just, well, better overall.-mrainey (December 27, 2009, 08:58 PM)
Not sure how fast but if you need to handle large .mkv and .mp4 files on Windows you might try Splash (http://mirillis.com/splash.html)Splash looks really cool! Very nice looking player, and it 'feels' fast for now. I haven't played with it extensively yet, but it looks promising, even if it is shareware for the pro version. Hopefully, they will soon make it full featured. It's pretty minimalist right now.
I use the free Lite version. It can handle large files without crashing, the seek slider seems to work very smoothly whereas VLC will sometimes crash as soon as you advance the slider. Also it claims, even in the Lite version, hardware acceleration for supported video cards. On my quad core I have the acceleration enabled. It doesn't seem to cut down on resource usage, but I haven't noticed any pauses when playing the video as I'll sometimes get with VLC or MPCHT.-MilesAhead (December 26, 2009, 07:00 PM)
One thing about it that contrasts with players like VLC and MPCHT is it doesn't take up the whole screen or show oversized with scrollbars on HD content when run in Windowed mode. When sampling video it's good to keep this in mind since the output tends to look glassier and smoother with the lower resolution. But checking for graininess while maximized fixes that. It's just easy to forget it.That's cool. I also found that using the slider was pretty smooth with HD mkv files. Most of my other players really struggled with the large mkv files.
The main thing with me is I haven't seen it crash yet from advancing the slider. That's very frustrating when using VLC. Seems like half the .mkv files crash as soon as you touch it. There's supposed to be a new Lite version out soon with some bug fixes and perhaps a few new features.-MilesAhead (December 28, 2009, 11:26 AM)
So? Big deal.;D-skwire (February 23, 2010, 02:12 AM)
Also it doesn’t install a boatload of codecs and I like that. Some players load so many darned codecs and then I CAN'T easily remove them if I uninstall the player. In some cases they replace needed codecs and removing them screws everything up. Real bad if you are not especially versed in what codecs Windows needs and where to get them.
J-Mac, I agree with all of your thoughts here. Those shootouts are extremely difficult to churn out. It burns you out very quickly. I tried to do one with the notetakers and I just couldn't sustain it. I've tried a variety of ways to contribute good software reviews here apart from the normal forum participation. But all the ways I tried were nothing I could sustain. The best solution I came up with, and that i'm very happy with, is asking DC to host my website, and there I have a special section for short reviews ( on the level of the "mini-reviews"). And they aren't complete in any way, and they don't offer much in the way of comparison to alternatives. But I highlight the features that really stand out, and all of the ones I list are the software that I prefer and use every day. So it's one of those things where if people trust my opinion, then they have some assurance that the software I'm talking about is a good choice. I based this model on Zaine's now-defunct Great Software List. Once I realized and trusted that he knew what he was talking about, whenever I wanted to pick a software, I'd just go to his list and choose the one he recommended and I knew I'd be happy with it. So that's the best model I've found so far, and it's something I can sustain no matter what my schedule is like.
This is a perfect topic for one of those Software Review Shootouts (https://www.donationcoder.com/Reviews/index.html) that were once fairly common here at DC. That way a group of video players could be reviewed and all features, all pros and cons could be spelled out clearly giving users good, solid info to help them find a video player that suits their own desires. It's a shame that they are so time consuming to write.-J-Mac (February 23, 2010, 03:00 PM)
What player is installing all these codecs *into the system*? Most of the ones discussed in this thread all have *internal* codecs, but they're not being registered in the system and so they should have little or no system impact and should be gone once you uninstall the player. *Codec packs* that come with players (e.g. CCCP-Project or KLite Codec PacK) are an entirely differeny matter of course.
- Oshyan-JavaJones (February 23, 2010, 07:18 PM)
Kamel, it's not that I don't believe you, it's just that I have to have SOME kind of interface. I'm all for minimalism, but not nothing-ism! That's why I've never adopted all that poweruser keyboard-shortcut stuff that the hardcore guys do.-superboyac (February 23, 2010, 10:57 PM)
until i see new requirements that aren't listed
Splash Lite has updated to 1.3. I think it's mostly small bug fixes.Yeah, I'm keeping my eye out on it also. I like it a lot. Very polished and fast. I feel like it won't have enough options for me, but we'll see.
http://mirillis.com/splash.html-MilesAhead (March 01, 2010, 01:27 PM)
is there an english site?unfortunately, no. but just translate it with google, download it. Once you start it, you can change the language to english in the preferences and everything will be fine.-techidave (December 08, 2010, 09:33 PM)
is there an english site?unfortunately, no.-techidave (December 08, 2010, 09:33 PM)-superboyac (December 08, 2010, 09:45 PM)
I use ALSong (http://www.altools.net/ALTools/ALSong/tabid/58/Default.aspx) for music.(...)
(...)
Disclaimer: I work for the company.-Renegade (August 05, 2007, 08:21 AM)
So: When are ALTools gonna launch a genuine media player (ALLPlay) ??? ;)
- I cannot be the only one longing for this version!? :tellme:-Curt (August 06, 2007, 09:59 AM)
ALShow was recently renamed to ALPlayer (http://www.altools.com/ALTools/ALPlayer.aspx) and it's finally out in version 2 now.-Renegade (December 09, 2010, 06:10 AM)
That site has not been updated for years. Do not think you are getting the latest information or downloads there. The current stuff is all on the russian site and the russian forum. Although if you wish to purchase the program, I think you can still do that with the old english site above.(see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=20880.msg226470#msg226470))is there an english site?unfortunately, no.-techidave (December 08, 2010, 09:33 PM)-superboyac (December 08, 2010, 09:45 PM)
http://www.softella.com/
have you been hanging out with those Russians for too long, boy?
:P-Curt (December 09, 2010, 02:11 AM)
Light Alloy is making big progress! A new beta for v4.5 has been released. The new features are:
Portable version! Yes!
Also, it is now being packaged with internal codecs, which a lot of people prefer. He is also offering the lighter, no-codec version also. So he has covered all bases. Great developer. Fantastic video player. My favorite general purpose player.
http://www.light-alloy.ru/download_v45up/
Woohoo!-superboyac (December 08, 2010, 09:19 PM)
Apparently Light Alloy is now freeware. I used the Google translator and scrolled to the bottom.
http://www.light-alloy.ru/-mrainey (February 11, 2011, 10:30 AM)
Very cool, thanks! THat's way better.Apparently Light Alloy is now freeware. I used the Google translator and scrolled to the bottom.Cool. You can also download the standard version from Softpedia instead of waiting for the download server count down:
http://www.light-alloy.ru/-mrainey (February 11, 2011, 10:30 AM)
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Video-Players/Light-Alloy.shtml-MilesAhead (February 11, 2011, 03:56 PM)
Apparently Light Alloy is now freeware. I used the Google translator and scrolled to the bottom.
http://www.light-alloy.ru/-mrainey (February 11, 2011, 10:30 AM)
Great to see the dev post here. Thanks for stopping by Kinjal! Your English is fine. :)I would actually love to hear your thoughts on it.
I will have to take another look at LightAlloy.
- Oshyan-JavaJones (August 16, 2011, 02:18 PM)
I did take a look at it (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=25205.msg232282#msg232282) briefly in the past. But as I mentioned, will have to revisit. The consideration changes given it's totally free now, too. Although I still loves me some KM, heh.Ah, that's right. I remember reading that.
- Oshyan-JavaJones (August 16, 2011, 04:45 PM)
But one of users told me that he experience some issues with skin(i.e PK-69) redrawing (but he has kinda outdated computer) on player window resize, may be skin system regression(not sure, because I cannot see same issue for me), so don't be too strict :) Anyway, we're working on completely new skin system for RC-3.I can confirm that behavior on my computer also. My computer is fairly powerful, so I hope that helps. I'd love to see the new skin, they keep getting better and better.-Kinjal (August 18, 2011, 11:25 PM)