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Title: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: kyrathaba on August 01, 2015, 01:43 PM
A coworker gave me a Dell Dimension 4600. She was gonna throw it away, and I was like, "NO!!"

Naturally, it was garbaged up. I installed a fresh copy of Win XP on it, downloaded and installed Service Pack 3, and it's doing okay. I've ordered RAM to upgrade it from 512Mb to 1.5Gb. The lady I'm giving it to is not very computer savy, but likes to watch DVDs, listen to music, and play games. She's particularly fond of 50s and 60s music, so I'm getting a bunch of that ready, and putting some rotating 50s/60s-era desktop images on the machine.

Any suggestions on software she might enjoy or benefit from?

I put the whole 5-CD Microsoft Encarta encyclopedia on it (she loves that sort of thing). It has Power DVD 4.0.

Note: the lady is indigent and cannot afford internet, so that isn't an issue. I'll get the machine as tuned up as possible and make a backup image in case I need to visit her in future and restore the PC.

What I'm after is suggestions on ways to modify the machine, software suggestions, etc., bearing in mind that this is an older person (in her mid-70s, of sound mind but has been ill for many years).
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: MilesAhead on August 01, 2015, 02:03 PM
I don't know what programs to pick.  But this may be a good resource of free programs that were popular enough to go commercial:

http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/alphabetically.html

Most are likely old enough to run on XP
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: TaoPhoenix on August 01, 2015, 02:24 PM


Depending on her area maybe put a wifi card in it and get someone's permission to use their wifi?
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: Curt on August 01, 2015, 05:00 PM
I #feel# the Encarta is a really good idea, WBM. Does the world have more of such things? Is she spiritually interested? eSword?
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: kyrathaba on August 01, 2015, 05:15 PM
Thanks, Curt. Yes, I'd already put eSword and a few other apps of that sort. Good catch!

@Tao: yep, that's a possibility. Only problem is that she's so technically unsavy, that any problems at ALL and she'd not know how to reconnect wirelessly.
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: Curt on August 01, 2015, 05:30 PM
-and she might leave the gate open, even "to prevent problems" (we know many people who never shuts down their computer, only to avoid any associated problem)

Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: mouser on August 01, 2015, 07:38 PM
a nice simple text editor -- maybe one of those that is designed to hide other stuff so you can just focus on writing?
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: kyrathaba on August 01, 2015, 07:45 PM
^ Mmm, yes, good suggestion, mouser. Maybe MonkeyWrite or FocusWriter.
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: cranioscopical on August 01, 2015, 08:15 PM
A decent reader app and some PD books? And/or some talking books?

There might even be a Sci-Fi item  ;)
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: kyrathaba on August 01, 2015, 08:17 PM
I have some audiobooks loaded for her. Also, introducing her to mobi ebooks.
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: mouser on August 01, 2015, 08:46 PM
web browser pre-configured with bookmark toolbar of useful pages?
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: app103 on August 01, 2015, 10:04 PM
She would probably enjoy the top 100 books from Project Gutenberg: https://www.gutenberg.org/browse/scores/top

She might like my clock, which can be configured to be high contrast and quite large, for easy reading: http://appsapps.info/dclock2.php

FSL Launcher might be good for her, if you set it up with the tabs and shortcuts to the apps, files, and folders she would be using: http://fsl.sytes.net/launcher.html

For some games that don't require quick reflexes and won't rush her with timers:

Jigsaws Galore Free edition: http://www.dgray.com/download.htm
I have a much older, full version of this one, and it's great for anyone that likes jigsaw puzzles.

One of the best freeware single-player Uno games I have ever found: http://www.lupopensuite.com/db/uno.htm
Full description, screenshots, and a review, here: http://uno-freeware.software.informer.com/
One note I don't think they mentioned, is that no matter how many players you select, it's still a single player game, you vs 1 or more AI players.

Game Top has a ton of free casual games.
They do open up a link to their site when you finish playing and close the game, but that would be simple enough for her to close.

About 100 different hidden object games (http://www.gametop.com/category/hidden-objects.html). (these are always a big hit with seniors)

Chess (http://www.gametop.com/download-free-games/gambit-chess/)
Checkers (http://www.gametop.com/download-free-games/checkers/)
Texas Hold'em Poker (http://www.gametop.com/download-free-games/poker/)
Dominoes (http://www.gametop.com/download-free-games/dominoes/)
Backgammon (http://www.gametop.com/download-free-games/backgammon/)
Minigolf (http://www.gametop.com/download-free-games/golf/)
Bowling (http://www.gametop.com/download-free-games/bowling/)
Lots of puzzle & match 3 games (http://www.gametop.com/category/puzzle.html)

web browser pre-configured with bookmark toolbar of useful pages?

It might be a good idea, even if she isn't going to have internet access, to perhaps save some pages for her to view locally, static pages that contain handy reference info.
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: kyrathaba on August 04, 2015, 06:22 AM
Thanks, mouser and app. Good suggestions!
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: TaoPhoenix on August 04, 2015, 09:18 AM
web browser pre-configured with bookmark toolbar of useful pages?

It might be a good idea, even if she isn't going to have internet access, to perhaps save some pages for her to view locally, static pages that contain handy reference info.


Yeah, reference.

I think I remember seeing years ago that you could save local offline copies of Wikipedia. And yes, "only 75-80% of it is true" but to me that's a valuable modern part of the web, just getting a quick glance at something that comes up. Can anyone look into that in general and then see if it applies here too?

Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: KynloStephen66515 on August 04, 2015, 09:34 AM
I know she is not technically savvy, but having a PDF reader would be handy in case she finds something online she wants to read and it turns out to be a .pdf file.

Also, always helpful to pre-install things like WinRAR and such - Perhaps not for her, but as an aid to anybody who may need to run repairs on the machine or fix something for her (The amount of time I needed to download a file on somebodies PC only to find out they don't have WinRAR, making me take that extra step...)

Also, some pre-configured anti-malware/anti-virus software would be very handy, as well as having Chrome/Firefox the default OS with AdBlockPro (Old people click ads and fill their computers with crap) + McAfee Secure Site Advisor (This will warn you if you are going to a site that has proven itself to be questionable) And any other helpful addons you can think of.

If it is somebody you know personally and don't mind fixing her PC...then maybe a background copy of Teamviewer that you setup for permanent remote access (installed as a service) - That way, if the PC is on, and connected to the internet, then you can login remotely to fix any little issues (Or update Flash cause it has told her to do it, and she doesn't quite know how) :)
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: MilesAhead on August 04, 2015, 01:56 PM
If her vision isn't the best it may be cool to try to get some free audio books.  Also if she lives alone or is alone quite a bit the voice reading the book can be like company.  Many elderly with vision problems listen to talk radio but in some areas they mainly have sports talk.  Probably not interesting listening for an elderly female.

Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: 40hz on August 04, 2015, 02:21 PM
If she has spiritual inclinations, there's a huge archive of sacred and spiritual texts available for free download over at
www.sacred-texts.com. All the major religions are well represented along with dozens of other more esoteric traditions. Everything for Angels to Zoroastrianism.

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Especially good is a story written in 1897 by John Uri Lloyd titled ETIDORHPA (http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/eti/eti00.htm). It's a good adventure yarn about a fantastic spiritual journey (much like Dante's)  to "the end of earth" - and places stranger. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: TaoPhoenix on August 04, 2015, 06:32 PM

Stephen, a big unclear item is she can't afford a mainline internet service. So a bunch of your ideas fall sideways.

Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: MilesAhead on August 04, 2015, 06:42 PM

Stephen, a big unclear item is she can't afford a mainline internet service. So a bunch of your ideas fall sideways.



I wonder if there is some kind of "Internet for All" initiative in her area?
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: kyrathaba on August 10, 2015, 09:38 PM
Okay, it's not a bad machine. Pentium 4 running at 2.66 GHz. I've bumped RAM from 512M to 1.5G. Running WinXP Home SP3. Avast. Filling the drive with books (audio and text), movies, hidden obj/puzzle/sim games. Using FSL Launcher. Will make her some screencast tutorials.
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: app103 on August 11, 2015, 12:42 PM
Have you given any thought to how Avast will be updated, without an internet connection? And have you disabled it from attempting to automatically update? (I'd hate to see her annoyed with popups telling her the definitions are out of date and end up in the habit of just dismissing any and all messages from Avast.)
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: kyrathaba on August 11, 2015, 05:00 PM
@app103:

Yes, we visit this lady once a month and cook her a meal and eat with her. On those visits I will go online by tethering my cellphone to her PC via a wireless dongle. I can then update antivirus definitions. Avast is configured for manual updates only.
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: app103 on August 11, 2015, 07:14 PM
@app103:

Yes, we visit this lady once a month and cook her a meal and eat with her. On those visits I will go online by tethering my cellphone to her PC via a wireless dongle. I can then update antivirus definitions. Avast is configured for manual updates only.

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Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: kyrathaba on August 11, 2015, 08:07 PM
@app103:
 
Where does Dclock2 store user data, such as To Do Lists? Never mind, I see, now.
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: Arizona Hot on September 18, 2015, 10:55 PM
I presume you are using VLC for movie playing. I have always used Libre Office( and Open Office before that) for general text tasks. Adobe Reader for all .pdf  reading(useful for reading Project Guttenberg books also).  Amazon has some free Kindle books you might be interested in. I have World of Goo and Crayon Physics Deluxe(but I don't know if she likes that kind of thing). Does she like Solitaire?

Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: panzer on September 19, 2015, 03:57 AM
Eldy, Pot Player, Foobar, F.lux or SunsetScreen, Notepad++, PDF-XChange Viewer, Speechlogger, Virtual Magnifying Glass, some good fonts like Georgia, Wizmouse, Chrome add-on Oweb Voice Input, PhraseExtress, Heart Rate Monitor ...

or install HandyLinux ...
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: kyrathaba on September 19, 2015, 07:50 PM
Yes, VLC is installed and is associated with common video formats. I dunno if she likes Solitaire. I've added some audio books as well.
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: MilesAhead on September 19, 2015, 08:28 PM
This poor old lady is going to have to attend college nights to learn to use these 500 programs.  :)

Just kidding.  But inertia can lead to program bloat.  :)
Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: TaoPhoenix on September 19, 2015, 11:37 PM
Does she like Solitaire?

You mean "Klondike/Canfield".

As I have been amiably advising while visiting some local Chinese kids, "Klondike" is not "Solitaire". Solitaire is a *category*. "Klondike" is the most famous variant in that class.

But when her eyes get tired, buy her a twin deck of cards and teach her how to play German Spider. That's also ... Solitaire! And it has such a stunning different feel that she might like a break from stuff. Just make sure it's a big table!

If anyone actually cares, we can branch a thread out. This was just to niggle that "the game Bill Gates put on MS Windows" is a "class violation" or something : )


Title: Re: Pls recommend 32-bit software for old WinXP machine I'm giving an elderly woman
Post by: wraith808 on September 20, 2015, 10:34 AM
Does she like Solitaire?

You mean "Klondike/Canfield".

As I have been amiably advising while visiting some local Chinese kids, "Klondike" is not "Solitaire". Solitaire is a *category*. "Klondike" is the most famous variant in that class.

But when her eyes get tired, buy her a twin deck of cards and teach her how to play German Spider. That's also ... Solitaire! And it has such a stunning different feel that she might like a break from stuff. Just make sure it's a big table!

If anyone actually cares, we can branch a thread out. This was just to niggle that "the game Bill Gates put on MS Windows" is a "class violation" or something : )




Just like tissue is not Kleenex, gelatin is not Jell-O, and search is not Google, and... you get the idea.  The ship sailed on the language of all of those things long ago, and even though you just said that, I'll still refer to it as solitaire, because most people will understand that.  And this is despite knowing it forever, as I went through several of the variants and different types.  In the end, it's better to use common nomenclature once the ship sails, and the most common variant is most common for a reason- it's easier to teach, and more fun in general in my estimation.  ;D