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Title: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: kalos on May 05, 2008, 06:12 AM
hello

can you tell me please the lightest instant messenger that supports MSN

thanks
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: sri on May 05, 2008, 06:16 AM
I know you are asking for s/w, but isn't using sites like www.meebo.com not an option for you?
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: kalos on May 05, 2008, 06:31 AM
mmm, thanks, but I wouldn't like to use a website for IM
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: lanux128 on May 05, 2008, 08:39 AM
due to a problem with my router, i haven't used IM for a while. but i was very happy with Miranda IM (http://www.miranda-im.org/about/), do give it a try. also check out this post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=1201.0) about Miranda by brotherS.
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: iphigenie on May 05, 2008, 11:37 AM
i use pidgin - memory usage 2600k so not especially lightweight (can be made lighter through options i think, less protocols, for example). CPU usage unnoticeable

i used  miranda for a long time, its a fine product but too much hassle tweaking it all the time.

I do use meebo too and find it very handy :D
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: Deozaan on May 17, 2008, 07:36 PM
[EDIT] I have a similar question but in regard to GoogleTalk. [/EDIT]

I'm really fond of GoogleTalk because of it's minimalistic design. It doesn't have all that extra garbage/bloat like MSN or Y!IM. However, I've been increasingly displeased with the fact that for some reason it takes up 26MB of RAM.

But since GTalk is all I use anymore, I don't know if there are any other lighter IM clients that I can use my GTalk friends list.

Here are the features I'd like:

1. GTalk friends list.
2. Ability to log chats.
3. Ability to send files.

Anything much more than that is unnecessary, in my opinion.
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: kalos on May 18, 2008, 02:14 AM
Gtalk works with msn and yahoo protocol?
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: muntealb on May 18, 2008, 03:10 AM
The lightest IM that supports MSN is probably aMSN.

http://www.amsn-project.net/

You could try also Trillian, it can connect to the MSN network.

http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: f0dder on May 18, 2008, 09:49 AM
I'm really fond of GoogleTalk because of it's minimalistic design. It doesn't have all that extra garbage/bloat like MSN or Y!IM. However, I've been increasingly displeased with the fact that for some reason it takes up 26MB of RAM.
The official MSN Live, with all it's bloat, only uses 24megs of private bytes... it's working set is 40megs though, but again 'only' 21megs private WS. I normally use miranda (http://www.miranda-im.org/), but (afaik) it doesn't support custom emoticons, which can make some conversations pretty hard to follow...
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: Mark0 on May 18, 2008, 11:15 AM
I most always use the Jabber client integrated in Gmail  (so, Gtalk), since I have that page loaded all the time anyway. If I had a conversation that goes over a brief exchange, I just pop-out the chat Windos. If I have also to send somefiles, either I send via Gmail or fire-up Gtalk.

Bye!
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: Lashiec on May 18, 2008, 01:28 PM
The official MSN Live, with all it's bloat, only uses 24megs of private bytes... it's working set is 40megs though, but again 'only' 21megs private WS. I normally use miranda (http://www.miranda-im.org/), but (afaik) it doesn't support custom emoticons, which can make some conversations pretty hard to follow...

Since 0.7.5 custom emoticons are supported, sometimes it fails to display them, although it also seems to depends of what engine you're using to format text in the message dialogs.

So, yeah, Miranda is one of the lightest, around 7-9 MB of usage out of the box. Mine uses around 16-21 MB, that's because of the plugins I have installed :P
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: f0dder on May 18, 2008, 01:33 PM
Lashiec: how do you enable them, though? I see that Miranda *downloads* those custom emoticons, and has for quite a while, but it doesn't display them - nor standard emoticons, for that matter. And the plugin jungle/sea is way too massive, imho... and while I like Miranda generally, it's a tad unstable at times,  especially the file transfer (which is insanely slow, too :( ).
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: Lashiec on May 18, 2008, 01:36 PM
Ah, yep, you also need SmileyAdd (http://addons.miranda-im.org/details.php?action=viewfile&id=2455) to show them.
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: f0dder on May 18, 2008, 01:41 PM
Thanks, mate!

Somebody ought to cut down the jungle a bit... and add automatic plugin updates to the core :)
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: Lashiec on May 18, 2008, 01:54 PM
Oh, there's a plugin (http://addons.miranda-im.org/details.php?action=viewfile&id=2254) for that as well :)

I hope that *someday* they will add some more functionality to the program, but I'm sure someone will complain "OH NOES, FEATURE BLOAT OMG!!!1111", there's always one guy who does not like smileys and automatic updates ;D
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: f0dder on May 18, 2008, 01:57 PM
Smileys should definitely be optional, and I'm glad that miranda (with default message shower, whatever :)) strips all the font+color crap from MSN. But a plugin updater would be a really nice core feature.
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: Deozaan on May 18, 2008, 04:05 PM
Gtalk works with msn and yahoo protocol?

Erm... Not that I'm aware of. I was just extending the original question to see if anyone knew of a really light IM client that supported GTalk. I've edited my post in an attempt to make that clearer.
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: Mark0 on May 19, 2008, 11:12 AM
Erm... Not that I'm aware of. I was just extending the original question to see if anyone knew of a really light IM client that supported GTalk. I've edited my post in an attempt to make that clearer.
Since Gtalk is based on Jabber, you can choose any client that support the Jabber protocol.
Title: Re: which is the lightest instant messenger?
Post by: lanux128 on May 19, 2008, 10:45 PM
But since GTalk is all I use anymore, I don't know if there are any other lighter IM clients that I can use my GTalk friends list.

Here are the features I'd like:

1. GTalk friends list.
2. Ability to log chats.
3. Ability to send files.

Anything much more than that is unnecessary, in my opinion.

in addition to the answer given by Mark0, here are some links i found pertaining to the above questions.

1. Client Choice with Google Talk (http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html)
2. Why isn't there a Send Files option for some of my contacts? (http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=46575&topic=9080)
3. Does Google log chats from Trillian Pro? (http://groups.google.com/group/3rd-Party-Clients/browse_thread/thread/80695434cb57c80f/45243346578475c7?lnk=gst&q=log+chats#45243346578475c7)