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Title: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 25, 2010, 08:38 PM
I thought I had previously posted this on the dc forums but after a quick search I didn't see it.

I have been using a free program called Power Worship that will display songs during a worship service.  It actually takes the songs that are saved in a text file and then after building a song list, it then creates a power point for you.  It also works with Open Office.

here is a quote from their website

PowerWorshipTM works with Microsoft® PowerPoint® to allow users to maintain a library of worship songs and to dynamically build slide shows and reusable song groups.

URL (http://www.powerworship.com/index.html)

Maybe its time for my first mini review.   :-\
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Cpilot on May 25, 2010, 10:59 PM
 ;D
Good luck, the reception here to worship tools would be the same as if you were a FOX News executive asking for advice for a day planner.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 26, 2010, 05:46 AM
Oh, I realize that Cpilot.  But out of 215,000 members and I am the only one who has an interest in something like this?  This forum gets a lot of posts for many different types of software, why not some church software too.  Besides its not like it is related to a certain denomination.  :)
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: tomos on May 26, 2010, 08:03 AM
Oh, I realize that Cpilot.  But out of 215,000 members and I am the only one who has an interest in something like this?  This forum gets a lot of posts for many different types of software, why not some church software too.  Besides its not like it is related to a certain denomination.  :)

There's been a share of religion related software/ideas for software talked about here in past
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: wraith808 on May 26, 2010, 08:12 AM
Oh, I realize that Cpilot.  But out of 215,000 members and I am the only one who has an interest in something like this?  This forum gets a lot of posts for many different types of software, why not some church software too.  Besides its not like it is related to a certain denomination.  :)

No, not the only one. :)  Thanks for the heads-up!
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: app103 on May 26, 2010, 08:49 AM
PowerWorshipTM works with Microsoft® PowerPoint® to allow users to maintain a library of worship songs and to dynamically build slide shows and reusable song groups.

I don't think it would be limited to only worship songs. I am sure one could add their favorite pop tunes and use it for other purposes, outside of worship...like maybe karaoke. Might be something you might want to try when you do your review.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: daddydave on May 26, 2010, 08:54 AM
Hmm. Text file to Powerpoint program + Powerpoint to DVD program + Portable DVD Player = Ebook Reader ;)
(although I probably wouldn't really do that, I'm just throwing it out there).

Bring on the mini review.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 26, 2010, 09:27 AM
PowerWorshipTM works with Microsoft® PowerPoint® to allow users to maintain a library of worship songs and to dynamically build slide shows and reusable song groups.

I don't think it would be limited to only worship songs. I am sure one could add their favorite pop tunes and use it for other purposes, outside of worship...like maybe karaoke. Might be something you might want to try when you do your review.

Yes App you are correct, it could be used for anything.  I hadn't thought of it in that way.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 26, 2010, 09:28 AM
Hmm. Text file to Powerpoint program + Powerpoint to DVD program + Portable DVD Player = Ebook Reader ;)
(although I probably wouldn't really do that, I'm just throwing it out there).

Bring on the mini review.

Ok Daddydave, you have talked me into it.  I will start the review soon.

by the way I like your name (the dave part). :P
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Renegade on May 26, 2010, 10:15 AM
Hmm. Text file to Powerpoint program + Powerpoint to DVD program + Portable DVD Player = Ebook Reader ;)
(although I probably wouldn't really do that, I'm just throwing it out there).

Bring on the mini review.

Ok Daddydave, you have talked me into it.  I will start the review soon.

by the way I like your name (the dave part). :P

A review would be useful, because their site certainly isn't. There's no useful information there. (I didn't download it to have a look primarily because of the lack of information.)

I am interested in it as I wrote some captioning software about 7 years ago. It's still interesting for me.

I can just imagine the wicked cool stuff I could do for that sort of software, especially with combining dedicated hardware.

On a total tangent, or at least tenuously related given the whole music and religion theme...

FAIR WARNING: Potentially offensive to some
I have some software for finding Satanic messages in songs - the Satanic Music Detector! (http://www.fucksatan.com/FreeSoftware/SatanicMusicDetector/tabid/57/Default.aspx) Free for anyone to have fun with~! :D


I'll look forward to the review! (Subscribing to this thread now.)
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Curt on May 26, 2010, 01:07 PM
PowerWorship 3.0 was updated for Office 2010 :-)
Not many programs can claim such feature!

Sure thing, techidave; let's have a review!  :up:
-though my church is fully up to date, on tech things.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Curt on May 26, 2010, 01:20 PM
I just had to test if ABBYY Screenshot Reader could grap the about-box:

PowerWorship is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.
-
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Stoic Joker on May 26, 2010, 01:57 PM
Oh, I realize that Cpilot.  But out of 215,000 members and I am the only one who has an interest in something like this?  This forum gets a lot of posts for many different types of software, why not some church software too.  Besides its not like it is related to a certain denomination.  :)

Churches have networks too...

Just a quick question about the (impartial) review ... You're not the same techidave that's a moderator on the PowerWorship user forum, right?
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 26, 2010, 01:59 PM
oh joker you have such good eyes.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 26, 2010, 02:00 PM
but I have nothing to do with the coding part of the software.  Only as an end user who is trying to help improve the program.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: superboyac on May 26, 2010, 02:54 PM
I have a brother in law who is a pastor. I think I've heard him talk about the software they use to project the lyrics and stuff during the worship.  I'm sure he might find a mini review useful.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Stoic Joker on May 26, 2010, 05:18 PM
but I have nothing to do with the coding part of the software.  Only as an end user who is trying to help improve the program.
Okay, just checking, I stumbled across that while trying to give the app a fair glancing over. Granted I'm an atheist, but there are several churches in our client list... ;)

(Speaking of which) There is another app called PowerChurch (parishioner/donation management CMS sort of thing)that I've seen several times and it always has an office full of happy users. Are these two perchance related??
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 26, 2010, 09:17 PM
ok, I am trying to add a screenshot to the template.  I am in the full view mode.  the image is stored locally on my hard drive.  I am using inline display attatchment which then displays something like [ You are not allowed to view attachments ].

it should read something like attach=# in brackets
 But how do I get the file name in theirthere?? 
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Stoic Joker on May 26, 2010, 09:37 PM
You don't. Just do attach=1, attach=2, etc. in the order they are uploaded.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 26, 2010, 09:41 PM
Sorry to be so dense but I do not understand.  I have tried putting the path after the attach= but still nothing.  it won't let me paste the path in there
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: lanux128 on May 26, 2010, 09:49 PM
Sorry to be so dense but I do not understand.  I have tried putting the path after the attach= but still nothing.  it won't let me paste the path in there

check out this screenie by Abterix
(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1996.0;attach=20383;image)

Source: new forum feature coded - ability to inline link attachments! (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=1996.0)
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 26, 2010, 10:11 PM
thanks Lanux.  I looked at post when I was searching dc for help on this.  but I missed the connection between teh attach=# and the attachment box below that.

I think I finally got it.  I am writing it in the "my personal area" before moving it to the mini review section.  I hope I can figure that out.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: lanux128 on May 26, 2010, 10:14 PM
thanks Lanux.  I looked at post when I was searching dc for help on this.  but I missed the connection between teh attach=# and the attachment box below that.

you're welcome. :) another helpful tool when you're writing a mini-review is a BBCode editor such as this one: BBCeditor (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=17623.0).
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 26, 2010, 10:21 PM
ok what is the trick for moving it out of "my personal area" and into the other section or can you do that for me?
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: lanux128 on May 26, 2010, 10:36 PM
iirc this has been asked previously but i don't think there is a way to move it out. you'll have to copy and paste the text. :)
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: app103 on May 26, 2010, 11:10 PM
ok what is the trick for moving it out of "my personal area" and into the other section or can you do that for me?

Contact mouser and have him move it for you, otherwise you have to copy and paste the bbcode to a new post, and reupload the images, and in the same order as the original post in your personal area.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on May 27, 2010, 05:44 AM
that is what I ended up doing.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Deozaan on May 28, 2010, 10:32 PM
ok what is the trick for moving it out of "my personal area" and into the other section or can you do that for me?

iirc this has been asked previously but i don't think there is a way to move it out. you'll have to copy and paste the text. :)

Or ask a forum moderator (like mouser) to move it for you.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: geowink on June 14, 2010, 08:42 AM
If you really want to do this correctly look at MediaShout (which isn't free). It handles all the screen work for a worship service. One nice thing is you can make changes while you are running a service - something PowerPoint has no clue on. You can create a large song library that is totally editable and if you know someone with MS you could get their music library. Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: superboyac on June 14, 2010, 08:51 AM
If you really want to do this correctly look at MediaShout (which isn't free). It handles all the screen work for a worship service. One nice thing is you can make changes while you are running a service - something PowerPoint has no clue on. You can create a large song library that is totally editable and if you know someone with MS you could get their music library. Just a suggestion.
I second getting a full featured software like this.  I've seen these things in action, and they are tremendously useful.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on June 14, 2010, 10:55 AM
I have looked at MediaShout and actually d/l'd the demo.  It's not real user friendly and for a small church like ours, with only a few people that actually know something about computers it was too dificult.

your right that is a real meal deal but... for our case it wasn't the best deal in town.   ;D
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: superboyac on June 14, 2010, 11:07 AM
I have looked at MediaShout and actually d/l'd the demo.  It's not real user friendly and for a small church like ours, with only a few people that actually know something about computers it was too dificult.

your right that is a real meal deal but... for our case it wasn't the best deal in town.   ;D
At my sister's church, they had a similar problem (but it's not a small church).  The AV guy knows nothing about computers.  I told them all you need to do is find the geeky computer teenager in the church, and he will do an amazing job with all that stuff.  i've seen these kids do much better work for free than the adults who are hired.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on June 14, 2010, 11:16 AM
We only have 2 teenagers in our church, graduated 2 in May so I cannot count on them.  But your right about teenagers figuring stuff out way faster than most adults.

I belive mediashout was around $500 which is quite a bit for us. 

I went with PowerWorship because I thought some of the less geeky people JUST might be able to figure it out easier than one of the other ones.  But it does work for us and that is fine with me.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: superboyac on June 14, 2010, 11:20 AM
We only have 2 teenagers in our church, graduated 2 in May so I cannot count on them.  But your right about teenagers figuring stuff out way faster than most adults.

I belive mediashout was around $500 which is quite a bit for us. 

I went with PowerWorship because I thought some of the less geeky people JUST might be able to figure it out easier than one of the other ones.  But it does work for us and that is fine with me.
That's good.  You know what would be cool?  An iphone app to control this.  you can do it right from the pew!
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: techidave on June 14, 2010, 12:09 PM
Actually, you don't even need an iphone.  I have a remote control that will advance my slides and can do it from anywhere in the room.
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Curt on June 14, 2010, 12:18 PM
MediaShout seems both advanced and capable. However, I am puzzled about the "more than 50 bible translations"... I have merely managed to find eight, on their site. And when I went to register, it was only to find out that MediaShout does not recognize Denmark as a country!

 :-\
Title: Re: church song software
Post by: Curt on June 14, 2010, 04:37 PM
also, I think it is tough (tuf) that it takes $99 to learn how to use the program (via DVD)!