THE BEST OPEN SOURCE or FREEWARE PROGRAMS AVAILABLE TODAY
Freeware containing program purity (no cost, nags or bundled software) is most important first and foremost.
This site is designed to load fast and get to the point...freeware that stands out. No ads, no requests for donations, simply a place to help set up free security compainion "suites," find good freeware, technical help, and interesting or helpful websites. All program download links have been verified safe as much as possible.
I target programs that run on Microsoft Windows XP, though many of these programs are cross-platform.
I put my paw print paw on the Bear Ware award winners. We could long debate the qualification of "the best" as it is used here. Suffice it to define as a program that plays it's role very well, which could hardly be topped...but could be equaled.
Although I am familiar with several freeware sites, I was not aware of this one. If you aren't either, you might want to check it out.Hi Ken, since you are from Baton Rouge, you will know about William "Bear Bottoms" and his cocaine smuggling background, the murder of his BIL Barry Seals. I find it strange that you would quote ACF where this issue with Bear Bottoms has been validated.THE BEST OPEN SOURCE or FREEWARE PROGRAMS AVAILABLE TODAY
Freeware containing program purity (no cost, nags or bundled software) is most important first and foremost.
This site is designed to load fast and get to the point...freeware that stands out. No ads, no requests for donations, simply a place to help set up free security compainion "suites," find good freeware, technical help, and interesting or helpful websites. All program download links have been verified safe as much as possible.
I target programs that run on Microsoft Windows XP, though many of these programs are cross-platform.
I put my paw print paw on the Bear Ware award winners. We could long debate the qualification of "the best" as it is used here. Suffice it to define as a program that plays it's role very well, which could hardly be topped...but could be equaled.
http://bearbottoms1.com/ (see attachment in previous post (http://bearbottoms1.com/)) (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=6299.msg44155#msg44155)
from alt.comp.freeware-KenR (November 27, 2006, 03:17 PM)
Next time you wish to promote a fellow Baton Rouger, find someone who is worth the trouble.-Silverstein (December 14, 2008, 04:02 PM)
are we even sure this is the same person as mentioned in that article?Absolutely positive. Admitted by the "freeware scientist" himself. He has been completely vetted and investigated by ACFers. Either "Bear" is a liar, a plagiarer or both.-mouser (December 14, 2008, 05:16 PM)
well if nothing else, it's interesting reading.http://tinyurl.com/5s8mgx
Silverstein can you point us to ACF threads on the issue (ACF=Alt.Comp.Freeware newsgroup for those who don't know).-mouser (December 14, 2008, 06:35 PM)
Very strange that Silverstein arrives here to draw attention to this thread more than two years after the most recent post. If he/she didn't want the site promoted, then why post in this forgotten thread at all?If you think I am promoting his site, you need reading comprehension lessons. Been away at work, did a Google and found this post for the first time today on Donation Coders.-Dormouse (December 14, 2008, 06:27 PM)
Why do you care Silverstein?I own several companies that use contract coders, all of us are familiar with DC, it's fine reputation. I hate seeing it besmirched by association with slime.
How is it you know of bears site and dc?-cmpm (December 14, 2008, 06:45 PM)
When making accusations like this, you really ought to link to relevant posts. And people here generally aren't too fond of tinyurls, btw.Then, if interested, go to Google Groups and search "bear bottoms" seals. Google Groups puts out very long URLs hence the use of abbreviated ones.-f0dder (December 14, 2008, 06:48 PM)
Being from Louisiana is not a crime.Never said being from LA a crime, I attended school (Tulane) there, fished there, worked there on barcode programs right through Katrina/Rita. The fact that you have not heard about William "Bear Bottoms" and his career as a paid drug and guns smuggler is not my issue. It is clearly open reading.
Why say what you said about KenR.
I spent 12 years in Lake Charles, does that make me an accomplice? And I never heard of what your accusations are till now.-cmpm (December 14, 2008, 06:54 PM)
Perhaps you should do a background check on me buddy.So when Bear Bottoms admits to being Barry Seals BIL, and a drug smuggler, he is an atrocious, unbelievably gifted liar. OK, works for me.
Or the rest of dcer's who are here for the love of software.
This isn't about people's crimes until it affects the software promoted or mentioned or used by others.
Pardon me for butting in mouser.
Links are not saying anything that YOU know for a fact.
Anyone can say anything about anyone ALMOST anywhere on the web.-cmpm (December 14, 2008, 07:02 PM)
Mouser, I request that you lock this thread. There is absolutely nothing positive that can come from it.DC's reputation is associated with the validity of its posts, is it not? With the quality of its coders and those who post here, yes? This thread is well on-topic, I believe.
DC is about computer software and related topics. The background of people whose websites are mentioned here is not in our purview. We're usually pretty lenient about being off-topic, but in this case, where can the discussion possibly lead that helps us at all?
(I am not in any way associated with bear bottoms nor Mr. Silverstein)-CWuestefeld (December 14, 2008, 07:04 PM)
Mouser, I request that you lock this thread. There is absolutely nothing positive that can come from it.Considering your interest in government coverups, and the quality of individuals who have worked for them
DC is about computer software and related topics. The background of people whose websites are mentioned here is not in our purview. We're usually pretty lenient about being off-topic, but in this case, where can the discussion possibly lead that helps us at all?
(I am not in any way associated with bear bottoms nor Mr. Silverstein)-CWuestefeld (December 14, 2008, 07:04 PM)
Silverstein,You're kidding me.
I think one of the main issues here is that you're new here, coming in guns ablaze in an attempt to tell everyone how terrible "Bear" Bottoms is by reviving a 2 year old thread everybody has forgotten about (and my guess is that most people didn't even know about), linking to websites that either result in 404 or are just newsgroup conversations where anybody can say anything (i.e. they have no substance), much like you and I can have this conversation here.
I'm not saying that you're lying, or that "Bear" is a saint. But what's the point in digging up a two year old thread that has been long forgotten, and in such an inflammatory manner?-Deozaan (December 14, 2008, 07:16 PM)
A quick browse of ACF will list innumerable threads villifying BearBottoms (and many others for that matter)I would strongly disagree about useless for freeware. I would strongly agree that the exposure of Bottoms, warranted and deserved, takes an enormous amount of effort. It has been a trade-off of sorts.
Not sure what caused the enmity certain ACFers feel about this individual but I've been a long term lurker (several years) and the ACF community seems to have been over run by a new breed of usenetters
Unfortunately it has also ceased (IMHO) to live up to any reputation it might have had as a useful source of freeware (though if your interested in name calling you might find it worth a visit...)-Target (December 14, 2008, 07:21 PM)
Silverstein,
I think one of the main issues here is that you're new here, coming in guns ablaze in an attempt to tell everyone how terrible "Bear" Bottoms is by reviving a 2 year old thread everybody has forgotten about (and my guess is that most people didn't even know about), linking to websites that either result in 404 or are just newsgroup conversations where anybody can say anything (i.e. they have no substance), much like you and I can have this conversation here.
I'm not saying that you're lying, or that "Bear" is a saint. But what's the point in digging up a two year old thread that has been long forgotten, and in such an inflammatory manner?-Deozaan (December 14, 2008, 07:16 PM)
People like Mr Silverstein, who know more than a little about encryption, find Mr Bottoms's security recommendations are weak and the problem is doubled when Mr Bottoms is adamant in recommending very poor software in the face of all the facts to the contrary.
Hello Deozaan
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Many people find Mr Bottoms's information about freeware products to be not just useless but misleading and sometimes dangerous.
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You may need to forgive Mr Silverstein's passion in these matters but he very much dislikes the damage cocaine causes people and just as you might object to having members of the Ku Klux Klan using DC software forums for their own ends, Mr Silverstein sees Mr Bottoms as equally immoral and undeserving of your hospitality.
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One additional factor is that Ari Silverstein does not find anything to admire in a cocaine smuggler who has caused the loss of life & liberty of other accomplices as well as all the damage street drugs cause.
Franklin2-Franklin2 (December 14, 2008, 08:38 PM)
People are getting pretty antagonistic on this thread -- can i remind the DC regulars that the way we demonstrate tolerance and good manors here, is by acting respectful and showing by example how we expect people to behave, not by going on attack.-mouser (December 14, 2008, 10:55 PM)
I own several companies that use contract coders, all of us are familiar with DC, it's fine reputation. I hate seeing it besmirched by association with slime.-Silverstein (December 14, 2008, 06:56 PM)
Slander per se
The four (4) categories of slander per se are (i) accusing someone of a crime; (ii) alleging that someone has a foul or loathsome disease; (iii) adversely reflecting on a person’s fitness to conduct her business or trade; and (iv) imputing serious sexual misconduct (especially the chastity of a woman). Once again, all you would have to prove is that someone had published the statement to a third party. No proof of special damages is required.
People are getting pretty antagonistic on this thread -- can i remind the DC regulars that the way we demonstrate tolerance and good manors here, is by acting respectful and showing by example how we expect people to behave, not by going on attack.-mouser (December 14, 2008, 10:55 PM)
Very true. Nevertheless the following does sound like a threat, doesn't it?I own several companies that use contract coders, all of us are familiar with DC, it's fine reputation. I hate seeing it besmirched by association with slime.-Silverstein (December 14, 2008, 06:56 PM)
I find that statement to be rather interesting. In order for DC to be besmirched, somebody would need to do the besmirching.
etc-40hz (December 15, 2008, 12:11 AM)
Guys, please heed Deozans advice (don't feed the trolls!!)
There are 2 posters on ACF who are most prolific in their posts against (and about) BearBottoms purported activities and various character flaws and Franklin is one of them. FYI he is permanently killfiled as I have never seen a worthwhile post from him (plenty of trash talk though)
FWIW, I've been a long time lurker in ACF and can't say as I've ever seen a post from Silverstein.-Target (December 15, 2008, 12:32 AM)
Considering your interest in government coverups, and the quality of individuals who have worked for them
http://www.thewuestefelds.com/blog/
I find your post to lock hard to imagine.-Silverstein (December 14, 2008, 07:16 PM)
It is the flaky and misleading software recommendations Bear Bottoms makes in alt.comp.freeware which have led a number of individuals there to consider the recommendations on his freeware site to be unreliable.-Franklin2 (December 15, 2008, 05:43 AM)
you will know about William "Bear Bottoms" and his cocaine smuggling background, the murder of his BIL Barry Seals.
People are getting pretty antagonistic on this thread -- can i remind the DC regulars that the way we demonstrate tolerance and good manors here, is by acting respectful and showing by example how we expect people to behave, not by going on attack.-mouser (December 14, 2008, 10:55 PM)
Very true.
Nevertheless...-40hz (December 15, 2008, 12:11 AM)
Those like me who have Googled "Bear Bottoms' to find the truth of who he is will be directed here. If the association with an admitted drug thugger is an acceptable one to you, then so be that association, and its consequences, as they lay on your head.People are getting pretty antagonistic on this thread -- can i remind the DC regulars that the way we demonstrate tolerance and good manors here, is by acting respectful and showing by example how we expect people to behave, not by going on attack.-mouser (December 14, 2008, 10:55 PM)
Very true.
Nevertheless the following does sound like a threat, doesn't it?-40hz (December 15, 2008, 12:11 AM)
I own several companies that use contract coders, all of us are familiar with DC, it's fine reputation. I hate seeing it besmirched by association with slime.-Silverstein (December 14, 2008, 06:56 PM)
I find that statement to be rather interesting. In order for DC to be besmirched, somebody would need to do the besmirching.Asked and answered.
Is Silvertein implying that there will be "consequences" for DC because one of its members posted a link and comment about Bear Bottoms Freeware?
A few thoughts:Answered.
First, I think it would be nice if somebody who came in making accusations like Silverstein would give us all a little more background on who he/she is? How about a real name and verifiable e-mail address for openers? Since Silverstein has stated he is a long time poster on ACF under his real name, it would do no harm to post it here.
Second, this is DC - not ACF. If Silvertein wants to provide supporting information to backup comments or allegations, he should provide them in the posting. DC forum readers should not have to go searching ACF or browsing unverifiable web alias URLs to find that information.Done, several times.
Third (last time I checked) this is a country based on laws - not opinions, feelings, or secret knowledge. If Silverstein actually "knows" what Mr. Bottoms did or didn't do, then he should be talking to the relevant authorities, and not flaming about it like an adolescent blogger.This country is based on laws, opinions, facts and, in Bear Bottoms case, his self-admission to criminality. I don't need anymore than that, you may wish more, that is your decision, you have mine.
And FWIW, being "thoroughly investigated by the ACF" isn't really relevant. The ACF is not a court, nor is it police agency.It is highly relevant, are you not doing the same here? Making dispersions and calling into question my large amount of evidences? Of course you are as is your right...to be wrong, in this case.
Bollocks. I have no idea what world you live in but it has little to do with legal realities. I would have thought the recent spate of GOP and Donkey Presidents would have driven that kernel of untruth from any reasonably informed and thinking persons mind.
This country has recognized legal mechanisms and agencies for dealing with criminal and civil infractions. These mechanisms are based on law and derive their authority from legislation passed by elected representatives. The agencies that investigate infractions and enforce compliance with said laws, are also bound by the same laws, and subject to regulation and oversight. Anything outside of that is merely vigilantism.
Fourth, it may come as a surprise, but there are laws against defamation.Correct, if I am inaccurate, then Bottoms can have his day in court. if not, then he has nothing to do but hand his head in his self-admitted isgrace.
Slander per seAgain, correct.
The four (4) categories of slander per se are (i) accusing someone of a crime; (ii) alleging that someone has a foul or loathsome disease; (iii) adversely reflecting on a person’s fitness to conduct her business or trade; and (iv) imputing serious sexual misconduct (especially the chastity of a woman). Once again, all you would have to prove is that someone had published the statement to a third party. No proof of special damages is required.
I don't know how it works in Louisiana, but up here in Connecticut, most of the statements Silvertein has posted would be considered legally actionable. And in the absence of any criminal or civil convictions against Mr. Bottoms, it wouldn't take long to get a judgment against Silvertein.
In the end, it all comes down to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes. But considering the seriousness of Silverstein's accusations, DC is hardly the place for that.Would you have preferred that this fine forum be continually associated with such as Bear Bottoms? Why? Is DC not better off having this openly discussed as you have done at such great length?You spared no space in defaming me, did you? Why is it that of the sides you have chosen you choose to defend a self-admitted cocaine smuggler. Why? I have to ask, why?
It's nothing new for even the computer software greats to engage in socially-unacceptable behavior. The great Alan Turing was arrested for his then-illegal sexual proclivities, and later killed himself because he couldn't stand to bear his deviance. That in no way detracts from the awesome contributions that he made to the field of computing, and indeed to mankind as a whole.Are you intimating that Bear Bottoms is even remotely on the equal level of Turing?-CWuestefeld (December 15, 2008, 06:54 AM)
I point this out not to absolve anyone of anything. It's to show that one's personal life is entirely distinct from the contributions one makes. Go ahead and crucify Turing and anyone else whose behavior you disdain, but do it elsewhere. The topic of discussion here is computer software.Then please, take your own advice.
Only request I would have is that he implement a "What's New" or "New Additions" page for easier perusal.y0himba, that is an excellent idea. I will have a post made requesting he do exactly that and will return with the link to assure the same.
As for the rest of it. Let this Bear guy come speak for himself.-y0himba (December 15, 2008, 06:21 AM)
Guys, please heed Deozans advice (don't feed the trolls!!)The hypocrisy in this statement is profound. On one hand, you claim to killfile, never post and lurk. In the other hand. you claim, falsely, a complete lie, that Franklin does no faith to ACF. Again, a complete lie of which you have no right to comment in the first place.
There are 2 posters on ACF who are most prolific in their posts against (and about) BearBottoms purported activities and various character flaws and Franklin is one of them. FYI he is permanently killfiled as I have never seen a worthwhile post from him (plenty of trash talk though)-Target (December 15, 2008, 12:32 AM)
FWIW, I've been a long time lurker in ACF and can't say as I've ever seen a post from Silverstein.That should about sum up your worth and I shall refuse to comment any further.