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Title: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: zridling on April 26, 2007, 11:40 PM
App Name:Super Flexible File Synchronizer, soon to be renamed ExtremeSync (http://www.extremesync.com/)         
App URL:http://www.superflexible.com/index.htm (http://www.superflexible.com/index.htm)
App Version Reviewed:    3.4x
Download URL:http://www.superflexible.com/download.htm (http://www.superflexible.com/download.htm)
Test System Specs:Windows Vista x64; Ubuntu 7.04
Supported OSes:Windows 2000, XP, 2003 Server, Vista; Linux
Support MethodsEmail (preferred), Phone
Upgrade Policy:Version license
Trial Version:30-day trial period, fully enabled.
Pricing:Pro version: €49.90, $59.90; Standard version: €29.90, $34.90)         
More Screenshots:http://www.superflexible.com/screenshots.htm (http://www.superflexible.com/screenshots.htm)
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                  Edit Profiles screen, with File Access tab open


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INTRODUCTION
If you're not using this type of software, let's start with what a synchronizer does. A synchronization program is used to backup, replicate, restore, and/or distribute files — to another computer; to a backup device; to another network; USB drive, and so on. The purpose is to have two complete copies of your data at any given time. A synchronization program can also restore lost or damaged files and settings if needed. Primarily it is used to keep a running, or rollover backup copy of your files to whatever destination or media you choose.

Why not just use a popular backup program? Good question, and the answer is you'll want both. While synchronization is similar, it's not the same thing. A synchronization program serves different needs than a backup program. Backup programs tend to focus their features on storing and then restoring files and data, whereas a synchronization program coordinates the unification of files between two (or more) locations, reconciling their differences according to your needs, thus providing an accurate and timely copy of one's files. Synchronization also has a "set it and forget it" quality where jobs or profiles can be automatically scheduled to run on any timetable you desire.

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                 Profile Overview

Once you work with a good and accurate synchronization program, you will quickly come to rely on it. Fortunately, there are several good programs in this software category. But Super Flexible File Synchronizer has distinguished itself by its accuracy, reliability, and killer feature set. Even though there are multiple tabs in the advanced edit profile mode, the UI is well thought out, and once you know your way around, the features are all right in front of you. Best of all, it gives you control over exactly what goes where and how it syncs — at the point of synching. It's also great for exact mirroring, and while SFFS should really be considered a commercial app; that is, an enterprise one, given its deep feature set. Its trial version is fully functional, letting you thoroughly test and compare it to other synching apps. Super Flexible File Synchronizer has both a wizard step-by-step mode or an advanced mode. Profiles are extremely simple to setup, easy to alter, and can be scheduled remotely. The scheduler can run as a service — without users needing to log on.

Super Flexible File Synchronizer's developer, Tobias Giesen (http://www.tobiasgiesen.de/index-en.htm) of Neuenkirchen, Germany (http://www.neuenkirchen.de/), lives in Brühl near Cologne. His first passion is music and he has also developed music notation software.

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                  Synchronization Preview screen where last-minute changes can be made (skipped in Unattended mode)


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WHO IS THIS APP DESIGNED FOR
Anyone who needs to harmonize, coordinate, or backup files between two locations and/or devices. A synchronizer not only can serve as a backup utility, but can keep individual files up-to-date between scheduled backups. Super Flexible File Synchronizer is built for users who need more out of a synchronizer than a backup program and for those who need a program with which they can grow as their needs expand.

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                  Options screen


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THE GOOD
Super Flexible File Synchronizer is an intelligent synchronizer whose features are in part built to prevent you from making the common mistake of overwriting the wrong files. It's as simple as you want it be, or it can be used for complex purposes. For example, users can choose the user interface that suits them best: Wizard or Advanced Mode. The settings are stored in multiple profiles, and the software comes with support for FTP with SSL and SSH, WebDAV and Amazon S3, zip compression, data encryption, and a scheduler for automated backups. The scheduler can run visibly in the dialog, or as a Windows service. It can freely select files and folders across the whole folder hierarchy in a tree view, and has support for e-mail notification, profile categories, binary comparison, Unicode filenames, and various filters. In addition, it can replicate NTFS security settings as well as file shares.

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                  About screen


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NEEDS IMPROVEMENT
At first, the number of tabs under the Edit Profiles main tab was arresting, but when you realize that they include all the options you might want to customize within a specific profile, it's not daunting. In fact, the default settings are well-adjusted in this sense.


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WHY I THINK YOU SHOULD USE THIS PRODUCT
Making the case for Super Flexible File Synchronizer is the same for any good synchronizer program, whether it be Beyond Compare, DirSync, or SyncBack. However, Super Flexible File Synchronizer's utility grows as your needs do. If you're a developer, for example, Super Flexible File Synchronizer is great for keeping a running backup of your projects online or on a network. With built-in copy direction protection, It also protects against overwriting the wrong files. In other words, if you copy from A to B onto your laptop, leave for business on the week and return, you'll want to copy B to A upon your return. Super Flexible File Synchronizer recognizes this and either warns you, or you can set this option automatically in a profile if you prefer. Switching the copy direction is as easy as one mouse click. If the file doesn't keep date or file size stats (some PST files or Quicken files do this out of security I'm told), then you can leave the option unchecked and copy in the proper direction manually.

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                  Wizard mode. Creating a new profile is done in six steps, and advanced functions can be accessed here.

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                  Wizard mode, step 1.


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HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO SIMILAR APPS
As Alex Forbes (http://www.summitlake.com/COMPUTERS_NET/SuperFlexible.html) notes, unlike some sync programs, Super Flexible File Synchronizer has the ability to:



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CONCLUSIONS
Super Flexible File Synchronizer can be used by both ordinary users like myself or advanced users. For ordinary guys like me, it is conveniently fast. For advanced users, you SFFS gives you a broad range of options which should exceed your needs, but give you the control you're seeking. The UI is not elegant, but it is compact and functional. For beginners, the Wizard mode is both easy and fast to use. Regarding cost, Super Flexible File Synchronizer is expensive for a reason: it works, and thanks to its developer, Tobias Giesen is offering a 30% discount on it starting in May. Further, the author updates the program often and bugs are quashed quickly. He also invites user feedback and acts on it. That's a good thing.


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LINKS TO OTHER REVIEWS OF THIS APPLICATION
Alex Forbes' excellent review
http://www.summitlake.com/COMPUTERS_NET/SuperFlexible.html (http://www.summitlake.com/COMPUTERS_NET/SuperFlexible.html)



Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: TucknDar on April 27, 2007, 01:26 AM
Fine review, zridling!

For anyone with relatively minor sync needs, I recommend the tiny utility PathSync (http://www.cockos.com/pathsync/). The installer is only 101kb but PathSync is excellent for stuff like syncing files between portable drives and regular drives. It is not as feature packed and advanced as Super Flexible File Synchronizer, but does its job well.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: zridling on April 27, 2007, 02:23 AM
Thanks for the link on PathSync, Tuck. What a cool piece of smallware!
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: mouser on April 27, 2007, 02:28 AM
Great minireview  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: zridling on April 27, 2007, 03:03 AM
mouser's back? Woohoo!! Give us the scoop, man — how's the system?
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: mouser on April 27, 2007, 03:05 AM
see here: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=8229.msg58896
short answer: found a cool local store i didn't know about before and got a nice new power supply, and all is well with the world  :up:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: nevf on May 01, 2007, 04:04 PM
I've been using SFFS for many years and happily recommend it. Tobias also provides very good support.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: urlwolf on May 02, 2007, 02:39 AM
Very good review!

When I got to the "HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO SIMILAR APPS" section, the list I see (written by Tobias?) left me unimpressed. I think it is incomplete. In fact, cheaper tools can do most of the items mentioned (i.e., syncBack), whereas there are things that only SFFS can do that are not on the list.

Example:

rc12 is out, btw.
I didn't know the wizard mode was added already.

I think SFFS can easily replace any of the traditional backup utilities, and be more transparent, reliable, and less of a resource hog. And did I mention faster?

In summary, highly recommended!
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: mouser on May 02, 2007, 02:46 AM
By the way, discount on SFFS coming in May  :up:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: zridling on May 02, 2007, 08:27 AM
urlwolf, sorry about that. I had trouble with the "HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO SIMILAR APPS" section because although I've registered and used SyncBack and DirSync in the past, I was too lazy to take the time to compare and contrast them. Maybe you could help us out with a brief outline of differences among 2-3 sync apps?

Reading urlwolf's reviews over at FileForum led me to take a second look at SFFS, and I concur that the first impression it makes is its speed.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: MerleOne on May 06, 2007, 03:40 AM
Hi,

Any update on when the discount is coming for DC members ?
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Hirudin on May 07, 2007, 09:15 PM
Discount is out now! A nice one too!...

Thar she is (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=8409.0)
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on May 15, 2007, 08:45 AM
OMG! I'm in love... I just compared a backup copy of My Documents (~50GB) to a copy that I made for backup and SFFS took less than five minutes to do it. DOpus' built in tool is still chugging away after about 15 minutes. My fingers are crossed for a big win in the contest (singing: "Luck be a lady tonight..."!).
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tinjaw on May 15, 2007, 09:11 AM
Based on the reviews here and the DC discount, I have purchased the pro version sight unseen. I have no doubts that I will be a very satisfied customer.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: zridling on May 15, 2007, 02:29 PM
After you've used it for a while, come back and share your impressions with us.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on May 15, 2007, 05:37 PM
Hey Z, I just bought DirSync a week ago (mainly due to your recommendations).  Is SFFS better than DirSync in your opinion? 
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Armando on May 15, 2007, 06:33 PM
Hey Z, I just bought DirSync a week ago (mainly due to your recommendations).  Is SFFS better than DirSync in your opinion? 

Never listen to Z when he's overly enthusiastic over a newly discovered software.
;)
(just kidding)
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: zridling on May 15, 2007, 11:52 PM
Yes, but.....
Both are highly accurate (I trust you to test me on that claim), but while DirSync has a simpler setup and execution, SFFS can do so much more. If you plan to do any offline or FTP/S3 backups, SFFS is really sweet. Right now, it's the synchonizer to beat.

IMO, the synchonizer category is like the file manager category: lots of good choices here, including SyncBack SE. So cater to your needs, but if you want the Ferrari, take advantage of the DC discount for SFFS.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on May 16, 2007, 10:11 AM
OK, nice to know.  Fortunately, even with the discount, SFFS is almost double the price of DirSync so I'm not jumping to get it just yet.  Man, a lot of software I've wanted lately have been way too expensive for me.  It seems like nothing is in the $20 range, even if the program barely does anything.  Calendarscope, TexNotes Pro, SFFS, DOpus upgrade...all in the $50 range.  Oh well, I guess I'll hold off for now.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on May 16, 2007, 11:39 AM
Marry rich, Aram, marry rich... Now, if I had taken my own advice!
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on May 28, 2007, 04:31 PM
WOW! The more I use Super Flexible File Synchronizer the more deeply I fall in love with it. It's so feature rich, so well though out and laid out, so FAST, and so easy to use -what's not to like? I particularly like the almost infinite degree to which you can customize saved jobs. I know that this is possible in other synching programmes (I have several of them!) but SFFS is set apart by its ease of use. Did I mention how FAST it is?
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: justice on May 29, 2007, 04:51 AM
And it's flexible. (or should i say Super Flexible) I started using SFFS for big synch jobs only, but since I have removed  both SyncToy and Syncback (free edition) but they've just become obsolete.

I still use Beyond Compare to compare inside text-files for my web development but SFFS is a very polished and powerful program indeed.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on May 29, 2007, 06:45 AM
Sounds exactly like my situation - I'm using Beyond Compare for most file comparisons as well.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Curt on April 15, 2009, 01:38 AM
App Name:Super Flexible File Synchronizer, soon to be renamed ExtremeSync (http://www.extremesync.com/)         

- for two years they have not yet launched the Extreme thing. So, how is the company going in general? Are they bug fixing and feature updating and such? Does anyone know?
 :tellme:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: PhilB66 on April 15, 2009, 01:51 AM
@curt

Details @ http://www.extremebackup.net/
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on April 15, 2009, 03:58 AM
So, how is the company going in general? Are they bug fixing and feature updating and such? Does anyone know?

yes, very regular updates/fixes
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: mwang on April 26, 2009, 12:20 AM
V4.xx is now not only very capable (which it was from the start), but also very stable. Sync profiles are also easier to manage.

Due to some stability issues and Unicode compatibility issues with SFFS, I went back to hand-made BC (Beyond Compare) scripts and batch files for scheduled sync'ing when BC3 was released. Relying on a 3rd-party scheduler (BC3 doesn't have one) and various scripts and batches (for BC3 scripting isn't capable enough) nevertheless made maintaining several sync/backup jobs difficult. So I tried SFFS again recently (about two weeks ago), and haven't had any issues so far. Its rock solid now, running non-stop on my system.

I still prefer BC3 for manual operation, and its Linux ver. is just as useful. The interface is perfect for me, and the ability to align differently-named folders/files is a godsend. For scheduled sync/backups, however, SFFS is the better choice.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on February 18, 2010, 04:06 AM
Version #5 is coming out soon - see below for details - partial file versioning for files over .4MB which can be combined with zipping & encryption


NEW FORUM (yaaaah)  :) http://www.backupcreations.com/forum/
there seems to be some sort of partnership with this new(?) online backup site (well, they will use a version of SFFS & SFFS has forum on their site). They here (http://www.backupcreations.com/how_it_works/).


New Features In Version 5 (Preview now available for Windows)

Support for Google Docs
You can now synchronize with Google Docs! The functionality is described here.

Embedded SQL Database
An embedded Firebird SQL Database Server is now being used for the reference databases. This adds only 2 MB to the download and it does not need any configuration. It is used for SmartTracking, for the Destination Cache and for storing the checksums for Partial File Updating. The SQL server communicates directly via its DLL file, so there is no TCP/IP or other interprocess communication that would be seen by Firewalls. Embedded Firebird runs as part of the Superflexible or ExtremeSync processes.

Firebird is a great improvement over the old database structure, especially in terms of reliability and scalability. It can store an unlimited number of file entries and other data without becoming much slower. A separate database file is created for each job (like before). Old databases are automatically converted.

Differential Versioning Backup
You can now combine Partial File Updating with Versioning, Zipping and Encryption and use it with any backup storage location, including FTP and other Internet Protocols.

Checkboxes to choose:
- tab sheet Special: "Partial File Updating" (without Remote Service)
- tab sheet Zipping: "Zip Each File Individually"
 
The option "Filename Encoding" on the Versioning tab sheet is automatically active in this use case.
 
The Zip file sizes can now be limited too so that large files can be split (only in conjunction with Partial File Updating). The transfer can be stopped any time and zip parts already uploaded won't be lost.
 
Be sure to keep all zip files on the destination as they may all be needed to reassemble the file upon restore. Any older version can be restored by choosing the desired target date in the Restore Wizard, or by right-clicking the file in the Sync Preview and choosing the desired version. The option "Keep multiple files" is implied and does not need to be checked. It cannot be used to limit the number of older versions. All older versions must be kept on the backup.
 
A method to limit the number of older files that need to be kept on the backup storage is currently being developed and suggestions on the best strategy are welcome.
 
Block-level copying is applied to files which are at least 400,000 bytes in size. The granularity of the differential backup is determined dynamically for each file, based on its size. The smallest block size used will be 2048 bytes.
 
Each partial backup includes an MD5 checksum for each file, so that restored files can be verified to be 100% correct. You can see this in the file MD5.TXT that the partial zips contain.
http://www.superflexible.com/history.htm
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on February 18, 2010, 09:00 AM
Thanks for posting this, Tom. I've been using the preview for quite a while (not sure when I started - at least a month or so ago) and I haven't had any problems with it, though my synchronizing needs are pretty basic (haven't tried partial file versioning and haven't tried the scheduler).
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on April 19, 2010, 12:43 AM
Hey Tom, Mike:

I'm still using Version 4. I never hear anything about updates or new versions - I have to continually check the web site to see when updates are available. Is V.5 out yet?

One more question: are either of you using SFFS with Amazon S3 online data storage? I use Jungle Disk for that now but since they were purchased by Rackspace they very much want users to switch to using Rackspace's Online Disks instead of the Amazon S3 Buckets. Twice now with updates they changed mine over to Rackspace and I went through a lot of crap to get it all back to S3. So I'd love to dump Jungle Disk and use SFFS. Apparently SFFS can be used with Amazon S3 but I don’t think it has a UI to browse your files and folders there directly. Or at least it doesn’t in V.4 - maybe V.5 has changed this.

Anyway if wither of you are using SFFS with S3 I would appreciate some comments on that.

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on April 19, 2010, 12:56 AM
Sorry, Jim, I'm not using SFFS with S3. SFFS is still very solid here... As far as updating goes, I was in the same boat - checking the download page to find out if any were available. With the beta of v.5 there is a "check updates" feature from the help menu. Just FYI, author has stated that v.4 licences will work with v.5 (ie, it's a free upgrade).
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on April 19, 2010, 01:34 AM
Free? Wow - that's amazingly generous! So V.5 is working good for you? Stable?

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: CleverCat on April 19, 2010, 01:36 AM
Wouldn't be without it!
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on April 19, 2010, 08:06 AM
Free? Wow - that's amazingly generous! So V.5 is working good for you? Stable?

Yeah, sorry, I managed to miss the "5" when I typed SFFS above. I've been running SFFS 5 preview for months with no problems at all.

Here's the posting about the upgrade (hope I've interpreted it correctly!):

http://www.backupcreations.com/forum/upgrade-options-t105.html
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: urlwolf on April 19, 2010, 08:50 AM
I'm a SFFS fan. Since I'm on linux now, I had to find an alternative.
The best backup tool I found by far is storebackup (http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/storebackup). And yes, it beats SFFS for me.

No gui, though.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on April 19, 2010, 10:57 PM
I'm a SFFS fan. Since I'm on linux now, I had to find an alternative.
The best backup tool I found by far is storebackup (http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/storebackup). And yes, it beats SFFS for me.

No gui, though.

But it is for Linux, not Windows, correct? I guess I'll get to try it if/when I try Linux.  (Actually more of a "when" methinks!)

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on April 27, 2010, 07:25 AM
Free? Wow - that's amazingly generous! So V.5 is working good for you? Stable?

Yeah, sorry, I managed to miss the "5" when I typed SFFS above. I've been running SFFS 5 preview for months with no problems at all.

Here's the posting about the upgrade (hope I've interpreted it correctly!):

http://www.backupcreations.com/forum/upgrade-options-t105.html

Mike, have you installed the beta separately from your V.4 install - or on top of it?

Re the upgrade cost he does say
"any license includes at least two years of free upgrades and updates" so it may depend on when the license was bought...
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on April 27, 2010, 07:34 AM
are either of you using SFFS with Amazon S3 online data storage? I use Jungle Disk for that now but since they were purchased by Rackspace they very much want users to switch to using Rackspace's Online Disks instead of the Amazon S3 Buckets. Twice now with updates they changed mine over to Rackspace and I went through a lot of crap to get it all back to S3. So I'd love to dump Jungle Disk and use SFFS. Apparently SFFS can be used with Amazon S3 but I don’t think it has a UI to browse your files and folders there directly. Or at least it doesn’t in V.4 - maybe V.5 has changed this.

I'm still using a pretty old version of Jungle Disk (2.10a - I was wary of updating after the change of ownership cause it wasnt at all clear to me how it would work and/or cost)

I dont think SFFS allows you to browse files on S3 (I'm sure that would have been written big in the new features!)
Are there currently any other ways of showing S3 locally?

( Fairly Off topic:- have you reasons you dont want to use Rackspace storage ? )
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on April 27, 2010, 09:19 AM
Free? Wow - that's amazingly generous! So V.5 is working good for you? Stable?

Yeah, sorry, I managed to miss the "5" when I typed SFFS above. I've been running SFFS 5 preview for months with no problems at all.

Here's the posting about the upgrade (hope I've interpreted it correctly!):

http://www.backupcreations.com/forum/upgrade-options-t105.html

Mike, have you installed the beta separately from your V.4 install - or on top of it?

Re the upgrade cost he does say
"any license includes at least two years of free upgrades and updates" so it may depend on when the license was bought...

I installed the beta over top of v.4 (a long while ago) and have not had any trouble since.

Here's what the developer says:

Yes, v5 will be a free upgrade if you have v4, including all revisions. It will take the same registration codes as v4. Independently, any license includes at least two years of free upgrades and updates.

My reading of the above is that it won't matter when you bought your v4 license. He does state that his mention of the two years of upgrades and updates is independent of his first statement, that if you have a license for 4 you're good for v5, too. Very generous, really, as I purchased v3 at least three years ago and was given a free upgrade to v4 in March of 2008.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on April 27, 2010, 09:22 AM
PS I tried to use SFFS to sync my Roboform data with Roboform's online backup service (https address) and SFFS couldn't handle it. It did ask for my login credentials and I've confirmed that it's set up correctly. Don't know if this is to do with Roboform wanting to get people to buy their own GoodSync software as well? At any rate, I mention this in reference to the S3 query. I *suspect* that this will be an issue with S3 as well, though I have no way to test it.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on April 27, 2010, 09:32 AM
PS I tried to use SFFS to sync my Roboform data with Roboform's online backup service (https address) and SFFS couldn't handle it. It did ask for my login credentials and I've confirmed that it's set up correctly. Don't know if this is to do with Roboform wanting to get people to buy their own GoodSync software as well? At any rate, I mention this in reference to the S3 query. I *suspect* that this will be an issue with S3 as well, though I have no way to test it.
hmmm

Just thinking I could test it by setting it up (SFFS => S3) and then simply continuing to use Jungle Disk to check the contents of the S3 'Bucket' & see if the backup is actually working (you could go this route as well Jim)
as to when I might get around to trying that, I cant say :p :)

Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on April 28, 2010, 12:16 AM

I dont think SFFS allows you to browse files on S3 (I'm sure that would have been written big in the new features!)
Are there currently any other ways of showing S3 locally?

Yes - check the Amazon Web Services forum. There is a free client that seems to be all the rage there. They sell a more advanced version but maintain a free version also.

( Fairly Off topic:- have you reasons you dont want to use Rackspace storage ? )
-tomos

Yes. Rackspace hasn’t been as reliable as S3 - there have been several outages since the takeover; with S3 I have a network drive defined on my machine and I can browse, upload/download directly from there instead of going through the JD client - can't browse your files online at all with Rackspace. And there is the fact that Jungle Disk converted my S3 "Legacy" backup to a Rackspace online disk with the update to V3 - that is a no-no here! Don’t f**k with my data without asking! Plus my Amazon S3 account is in my name, not Jungle Disk's like a lot of folks. So if JD goes away overnight my data is still there and accessible. Plus JD pushes the fact that Rackspace is cheaper but in reality the costs are virtually the same for me. I don’t download/move my stuff around that much.

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Darwin on April 29, 2010, 06:49 PM
Just FYI, I note that GoodSync  (http://www.goodsync.com/) is billed as being able to connect to and synchronize with Amazon S3.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: mcurran on May 21, 2010, 07:53 PM
J-Mac: I love SFFS. I've used it with Amazon S3 for a year+. I use it for regular scheduled backups and also for versioning when I'm editing/writing big projects (save file frequently, back up every 10-15 min., keep 20+ copies, all to a bucket for temporary intensive backups, then delete later).

My MSXML 6.0 got corrupted and it prevented me backing up to S3 (this was before ver. 5 which doesn't require it). But Tobias was extremely helpful and informative. The preview ver. 5 totally fixed the problem (no longer requires MSXML 6.0).

Thanks for the tip about the free client to browse the files.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on May 21, 2010, 09:35 PM
Thanks mcurran. I'll have to get ahold of Tobias and ask him what's up.

BTW, that was the Cloudberry Explorer I was referring to in the other post. Is that what you  are using?

Thanks again!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: mcurran on May 26, 2010, 04:38 PM
Thanks mcurran. I'll have to get ahold of Tobias and ask him what's up.

Jim: Glad to hear that you'll be pursuing SFFS. I'm looking forward to checking out SFFS's new feature: syncing with Google Docs.


BTW, that was the Cloudberry Explorer I was referring to in the other post. Is that what you  are using?

I hadn't heard of Cloudberry before (thanks for the name, I had tried a quick search in response to your comment below re the free client, but didn't stick with it). I had been using S3 backup (maluke.com) for browsing my S3 buckets and directories, but have been wondering what else is out there.

Yes - check the Amazon Web Services forum. There is a free client that seems to be all the rage there. They sell a more advanced version but maintain a free version also.

Let us know what happens w/SFFS.

-- Cheers, M
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on May 26, 2010, 04:54 PM
mcurran,

Here's the website of the Cloudberry Explorer developers:  http://cloudberrylab.com/ (http://cloudberrylab.com/) . It's pretty decent and it's free!

Also here is a link to a review of the various Amazon S3 Clients at the labnol site: http://www.labnol.org/internet/amazon-s3-clients-roundup/8286/ (http://www.labnol.org/internet/amazon-s3-clients-roundup/8286/) . It's about a year old but most of the info is still valid.

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: mcurran on May 26, 2010, 05:15 PM
Thanks very much!
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on June 18, 2010, 04:42 PM
I installed Cloudberry and I set up SFFS to backup directly to Amazon S3,
and
it is all working a treat :) very easy to setup the online backup in Super Flexible - when you edit your 'profile' there's an internet button there, you just need your login details after that.

SFFS Pro, version: pre-5.00 Build 52

For the record, this was prompted by two things:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on June 19, 2010, 08:08 AM
I installed Cloudberry and I set up SFFS to backup directly to Amazon S3,
and
it is all working a treat :) very easy to setup the online backup in Super Flexible - when you edit your 'profile' there's an internet button there, you just need your login details after that.

SFFS Pro, version: pre-5.00 Build 52

I stopped Jungle Disk completely now - it was acting up this morning repeatedly trying to move some file, it was fine on restart but I dont need it no more anyways...
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: CleverCat on July 18, 2010, 06:48 AM
Since installing the version 5, I notice that at start up it's not minimized to tray? :huh:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on July 19, 2010, 05:15 PM
Since installing the version 5, I notice that at start up it's not minimized to tray? :huh:

I've had that problem for a while, might be best to report it directly to the author who is very helpful & responsive http://www.superflexible.com/contact.htm or they have a forum somewhere there.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on July 20, 2010, 12:38 AM
I think there's a way to designate how/where you want a program to open via switches in the Start Menu link. Adding something on to the link like " /m" for minimized or " /h" for hidden; something like that. Anyone know more about how to do that?

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: CleverCat on July 20, 2010, 01:51 AM
I'm trying the 'start minimized' first - was looking for that.... ;D :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: CleverCat on July 29, 2010, 04:26 AM
Solved! Win Patrol had an unnecessary start up entry for SFFS - deleted it!  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Armando on August 31, 2010, 03:17 PM
I'm currently trying SFFS as I find syncback a bit slow...

Although, after 2 days of testing, I really find that the syncback interface is much much better : offers more flexibility, options etc (the grid showing all backups offers a much clearer view of what needs to be backed up, when, etc. and all backup jobs can be sorted through their different fields, etc.). Only problem : no delta backup... Which is stupid, considering the demand. So, basically, 3 the main features I'm interrested in in SFFS are the "partial file updating", the versioning and the "real time" backup.

A backup software needs to be rock solid -- backup problems completely defeats the security purpose of the software. Unfortunately, in my tests, I  experienced something very strange (I'll post this in the SFFS forum  later but I wanted to try here first, in the community I know best !). But it could be me. I really wonder what I'm doing wrong.

1- In the "exact mirror mode" when "partial file updating" option is ON, larger "in use" files like my Outlook PSTs or IQ DataBase are 1- copied and then... immediatly after... 2- deleted ! This seems to happen once every 2 backup.

2- This doesn't seem happen when the "partial file updating" option is off. Also note that use VSS (for all files)

3- I also had issues with The "Run profile as soon as drives or volumes involved become available" option... The time always resets to 0.

It could be some installation or registry problems... I tried to figure out what the problem is and can't see what's missing.  I might just go back to my "a tad slow but reliable" SyncBAck but... still...
Anybody knows what's going on ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on August 31, 2010, 03:42 PM
Armando, i find your experiment with SFFS very interesting.  I know you are very detail-oriented.  I've used SFFS for a while now.  I use mostly the exact mirror mode for my stuff except in a few cases.  I'm shocked to hear you say that Syncback has more flexibility and options.  Wow!  The whole reason I was attracted to SFFS was because of the tons of options.  So I definitely have to check out Syncback now.

The interface on SFFS is pretty crummy.  I was really hoping Tobias was going to revamp it for version 5.  I feel it needs the same type of overhaul DOpus went through for it's options dialog a couple of versions back.  There are too many options to sort through all those tabs.  It's overwhelming.  That needs to be done in a different way.  And the thing you mention about the grid showing the backups...yes, that could definitely be improved.  I also really think he should change the dialog where you select the individual folders you want backed up (with checkboxes).  For as long as I've used it, he's done that in a really funky way with radio buttons, which makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on August 31, 2010, 03:43 PM
1- In the "exact mirror mode" when "partial file updating" option is ON, larger "in use" files like my Outlook PSTs or IQ DataBase are 1- copied and then... immediatly after... 2- deleted ! This seems to happen once every 2 backup.

Hi Armando,
I'm doing the same for my IQ database but I have "standard copying" mode selected as opposed to mirror. Otherwise my settings are similar:

I'm not having any problems.

I'd recommend reporting directly to the author and sending the related log file(s) that sounds like a pretty serious bug. He is very responsive and quick to fix things if broken.... Version 5 is very new so it's possible there's some bugs still


[edit] dont have any experience with "Run profile as soon as drives or volumes involved become available" [/edit]
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on August 31, 2010, 05:12 PM
I'm currently trying SFFS as I find syncback a bit slow...

Although, after 2 days of testing, I really find that the syncback interface is much much better : offers more flexibility, options etc (the grid showing all backups offers a much clearer view of what needs to be backed up, when, etc. and all backup jobs can be sorted through their different fields, etc.). Only problem : no delta backup... Which is stupid, considering the demand. So, basically, 3 the main features I'm interrested in in SFFS are the "partial file updating", the versioning and the "real time" backup.

A backup software needs to be rock solid -- backup problems completely defeats the security purpose of the software. Unfortunately, in my tests, I  experienced something very strange (I'll post this in the SFFS forum  later but I wanted to try here first, in the community I know best !). But it could be me. I really wonder what I'm doing wrong.

(Red and Bold emphasis is mine)

OK, you got me... what SFFS forum? I didn't know there was such a forum! Is there truly an SFFS forum? Would be nice!

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Armando on August 31, 2010, 08:47 PM
thanks for your comments/suggestions everybody. I'm busy tonight so won't have time to try other stuff with SFFS or register to the... Forum... Yes, Jim, there's a forum. :) Tom mentioned it in an earlier post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=8273.msg195943#msg195943). What's weird though is that I couldn't find any mentions of it on the main web site (note that I only looked for 5 min... But this is often the max amount of time I spend on a web page trying to find something before I start getting impatient). Seems like super flexible is distributed by different companies and so this forum is provided by one of its distributors/reseller.


Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on September 01, 2010, 12:32 AM
Thanks Armando - I had missed that post by Tom.

Well, I found the forum but it is a bitch to register for it. I think they can kiss my...  you get the thought. Damn thing wants ALL your personal info: address phone number, etc. Bull! Tells me I can fill any fields I don’t wish to complete with the correct number of ######, but it keeps returning asking for a valid phone number. And it clears the password and a few other fields each time. Hate that with a passion! And since it is a dynamic form the Lazarus extension doesn’t work on it.

Why the hell does a software support forum need my address and phone number? Intrusive crap!

A little ranting tonight, yes?   :P

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on September 01, 2010, 03:00 AM
I never did join that forum myself - never got around to trying to join it I mean. It was on my list, but my list is long and I keep ignoring it :)
Luckily - as I said above - the author (Tobias Giesen) is, in my experience, extremely responsive and very quick with fixes, if necessary. Email details here:
http://www.superflexible.com/contact.htm
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on September 01, 2010, 08:47 AM
Why the hell does a software support forum need my address and phone number? Intrusive crap!

A little ranting tonight, yes?   :P

Jim
Join the club! As Kramer says, "Why does Radio Shack ask for your phone number when you buy batteries?"

But, as tomos said, Tobias is very responsive to emails.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on September 01, 2010, 01:10 PM
Oh, I do write to Tobias when needed. Just thought it would be nice to be able to ask questions of other users on a forum.   :)

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on September 01, 2010, 01:31 PM
[...] Just thought it would be nice to be able to ask questions of other users on a forum.   :)

Yes, that would be very nice.
It's great that there's so many options in SFFS, but even though the help is fairly good, there's times I just dont know how to approach a backup. Speaking of which...

The interface on SFFS is pretty crummy.  I was really hoping Tobias was going to revamp it for version 5.  I feel it needs the same type of overhaul DOpus went through for it's options dialog a couple of versions back.  There are too many options to sort through all those tabs.  It's overwhelming.  That needs to be done in a different way.  And the thing you mention about the grid showing the backups...yes, that could definitely be improved.  I also really think he should change the dialog where you select the individual folders you want backed up (with checkboxes).  For as long as I've used it, he's done that in a really funky way with radio buttons, which makes no sense to me.

He did change it for version 4 (?) but it wasnt much of an improvement IMO - in the older version it was actually easier to get an overview. I've forgotten already exactly how it was done - it wasnt that it was that good either. As you say, I think it needs a complete overhaul. I wouldnt know how to approach it myself there's so much there.
Funny, it's easy to say where a GUI is crappy, but if it came to a complete overhaul I just wouldnt know where to begin...
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on September 01, 2010, 04:26 PM
As you say, I think it needs a complete overhaul. I wouldnt know how to approach it myself there's so much there.
Yeah, i've wondered how to change it myself.  I can't say I've come up with anything great, but I can definitely come up with something significantly better.  Like I said above, the options dialog for DOpus is a very good example.  It has a filter on the bottom where you can actually search all the options for whatever keyword you like, and the matches will be very clearly highlighted by a red rectangle.  I thought that was very creative and awesome.  But beyond that, i also think the whole tabs interface should be redone like mouser did for some of his programs.  mouser changed his preferences (FARR, for example) from tabs (like SFFS) to the current tree hierarchy on the left.  This was a great improvement.  Tabs are good, but they become klunky when there are a lot, and especially when organization comes into play.  Like, if there are options that are sub-categories of a larger set of options, it's better to do that with a tree than a bunch of tabs.  SFFS really needs to consider changing their interface.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on September 08, 2010, 02:34 AM
1- In the "exact mirror mode" when "partial file updating" option is ON, larger "in use" files like my Outlook PSTs or IQ DataBase are 1- copied and then... immediatly after... 2- deleted ! This seems to happen once every 2 backup.

Armando, did you get a chance to report this - or did you give up on SFFS?
(if you did give up/uninstall I'll send Tobias a link to here anyways, so he knows about the problem)
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Armando on September 08, 2010, 01:35 PM
Thanks for the follow up, Tom. No, I didn't report this. That kind of bug reporting takes time as many parameters are involved... But if you want to send Tobias an e-mail, sure.

I gave up on SFFS for now, even if it seems very promissing . My SyncBack License is valid and I like the interface, so I'd need a good reason to switch (my main incentive : the speed of the backup) and I want a painless set up.

SFFS did a few weird things right from the start and so I'll wait for another moment -- when I have more time -- to retry it. That is, if it's possible to reinstall the trial and get extra days ?? I'll check the website.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on September 11, 2010, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the follow up, Tom. No, I didn't report this. That kind of bug reporting takes time as many parameters are involved... But if you want to send Tobias an e-mail, sure.

I gave up on SFFS for now, even if it seems very promissing . My SyncBack License is valid and I like the interface, so I'd need a good reason to switch (my main incentive : the speed of the backup) and I want a painless set up.

SFFS did a few weird things right from the start and so I'll wait for another moment -- when I have more time -- to retry it. That is, if it's possible to reinstall the trial and get extra days ??

I reported it but he said he cant do anything without the log file (I forget where they stored by default, prob in the documents & settings/user). In my experience if there is a problem, he has figured it out from the log file so there was minimal work in reporting bugs. He did say he couldnt reproduce it, might try it myself as well if I get around to it.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Armando on September 12, 2010, 11:26 AM
Thanks Tom. I actually found 2 logs that would show the problem. So I guess I just need to send the logs to him ?
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on September 12, 2010, 12:25 PM
Thanks Tom. I actually found 2 logs that would show the problem. So I guess I just need to send the logs to him ?

well if you're willing :) I sent you a PM with some more details (dont know if you've uninstalled, but if you can remember the name of the backup, give him that too - mind you you're logs are probably fairly short if you only trialling it...)
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Armando on September 12, 2010, 06:21 PM
Ok, I'll check this out...
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on September 28, 2010, 02:47 PM
http://thepcbundles.com./

is offering SFFS and five other apps for $29.95.
It looks to me like the PRO version of SFFS as well which is worth almost $60 so it's a good deal for that alone (I dont recognise the others).

!!  Only THREE hours left  :-)
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: Lindaxox on December 08, 2010, 08:58 PM
I have been using "Synchromagic" for years, it works wonders.
About the same features as Super Flexible File Synchronizer.
There is no "best"software" but one has to check the little functionality they are really keen on is available.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on December 09, 2010, 04:24 AM
I have been using "Synchromagic" for years, it works wonders.
About the same features as Super Flexible File Synchronizer.
There is no "best"software" but one has to check the little functionality they are really keen on is available.

mixed messages about it out there:
the homepage says it's discontinued - http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/synchromagic/ - are you using the last known version (now free)?
Synchromagic which was sold by Rose City Software since 1999, has been discontinued. Unfortunately in 2006 development more or less ceased after v4.3.2.2 - and attempts to work with Gelosoft to develop further upgrades and bugfixes failed. Recent attempts in late 2007 by Gelosoft to finally release new builds for a new version 5.0 were so drastically flawed that Rose City Software was forced to abandon our relationship with Gelosoft as the software was no longer reliable and would result in lost data.
[my emphasis]
Softpedia are offering the more recent version as a trial


[edit] rosecitysoftware have replaced it with http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/SynchroMaster/ [/edit]

Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on February 08, 2011, 09:31 PM
You know, I complain sometimes about the interface of SFFS, but that darn thing can do everything!  Super Flexible is an extremely accurate name.  I just started using this feature I wasn't aware of which will monitor the USB ports, and detect when my files changed or when I stick my drive in, and it will run the profile.  I was all set to find another third-party program to take care of that for me.  And in typical SFFS fashion, the options are ALL covered:
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

That's what I'm talking about, baby!  Don't give me command line switches and stuff.  Buttons!  Checkboxes!  Dialogs!  Drop-downs!  Tabs!  Color-pickers!  Let's go!
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on February 09, 2011, 02:50 AM
That's what I'm talking about, baby!  Don't give me command line switches and stuff. 
Buttons!  Checkboxes!  Dialogs!  Drop-downs!  Tabs!  Color-pickers!  Let's go!

:D +1
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on August 18, 2011, 10:25 AM
With version 5.49/a I had a problem with the "Background Scheduler" on two different machines (XP & Win7). It didnt start with windows/login as it should. There has been updates since which may have resolved this, but apparently the best thing to do (for those not in the know) is to install the "Service Scheduler".
Details here
http://superflexible.com/docup.htm
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on August 18, 2011, 11:02 AM
With version 5.49/a I had a problem with the "Background Scheduler" on two different machines (XP & Win7). It didnt start with windows/login as it should. There has been updates since which may have resolved this, but apparently the best thing to do (for those not in the know) is to install the "Service Scheduler".
Details here
http://superflexible.com/docup.htm

Interesting.  I know in the older versions, there was some complicated setup of the service installation vs background running, etc.  In the newer version, it seemed to be simplified to a start/stop button in the application that worked much better than before, and the installer stopped asking the user if they wanted to install the service.  I've had no problems with it since, but if I wanted to have the service running in a more dedicated manner, I'd use the service.  I like being able to easily start stop it right now with the button.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on August 18, 2011, 02:47 PM
With version 5.49/a I had a problem with the "Background Scheduler" on two different machines (XP & Win7). It didnt start with windows/login as it should. There has been updates since which may have resolved this, but apparently the best thing to do (for those not in the know) is to install the "Service Scheduler".
Details here
http://superflexible.com/docup.htm

Interesting.  I know in the older versions, there was some complicated setup of the service installation vs background running, etc.  In the newer version, it seemed to be simplified to a start/stop button in the application that worked much better than before, and the installer stopped asking the user if they wanted to install the service.  I've had no problems with it since, but if I wanted to have the service running in a more dedicated manner, I'd use the service.  I like being able to easily start stop it right now with the button.

think we need a screenshot to clarify -

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

You can still stop/start it AFAICS.**
After my experience I would highly recommend using the Service Scheduler (Tobias also recommended it over the "Background" one when I reported the problem). I'm just after installing it on Win7 but I cant remember was the service selected or not - didnt get installed anyways. You can install it by selecting it from the drop-down list (see mouse arrow) and then install options show.


** Edit/ no, it's not clear - if I click on "Stop Scheduler" it still says "service is running", as in the lower part of the screenshot.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on August 18, 2011, 03:09 PM
^^ Yes, I think you've nailed it.  I remember this now.  It was sort of confusing.  I'm using the background scheduler because it's the easiest.  But I am going to move things to a server soon and I'll probably go the service way for that.  Thanks for digging that up!
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on August 18, 2011, 03:31 PM
^^ Yes, I think you've nailed it.  I remember this now.  It was sort of confusing.  I'm using the background scheduler because it's the easiest.  But I am going to move things to a server soon and I'll probably go the service way for that.  Thanks for digging that up!

Read the link I gave above for more info re network backups
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on November 23, 2011, 02:39 PM
Per email

1) they considering new name - Syncovery (I personally think just SuperFlexible would be good...)
2) working on version #6 (http://www.superflexible.com/v6.htm)
3) release of 5.6

we are going to rename the product! Please take a look at our poll regarding the designated new name, Syncovery:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/superflexible/surveys?id=2707004

Or feel free to send me your thoughts by email (http://www.superflexible.com/contact.htm).

Version 6 will contain lots of new features and improvements. Read all about it on this page: http://www.superflexible.com/v6.htm

While the new version 6 is in development, we are still updating version 5 frequently to fix any issues reported by customers. The result is that version 5.60 is one of the best and most stable releases ever.

The update is necessary especially if you use Google Docs or the box.net online storage service. Because cloud providers continuously work on their systems, compatibility updates are sometimes needed.

There's a huge discount on the Pro version for Macintosh for some more days available here:
http://www.themacbundles.com/
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on June 30, 2012, 03:55 PM
Seems SFFS 6 has just been released -
it *is* now called Syncovery.

I've had the software since version 3.xx and my upgrade price was
(current price) - (50% original price)
which was 25 euros in my case.

Seems nice and fair.

What's new here
http://www.syncovery.com/v6/

I havent installed it yet - kind of hoping for GUI improvements (or some way of helping a better overview/understanding of a job/profile settings).
BTW I dont think there's even *one* screenshot at the new site :D maybe it's too new yet. Or maybe Tobias is a geek ;-)
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on June 30, 2012, 08:11 PM
BTW I dont think
COuld you post a screenshot for us if you have one?  Or anyone else?  Thanks.
I'll probably get the upgrade.  It's one of the most useful tools I've ever had.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on July 01, 2012, 04:56 AM
Just minor changes in the GUI, but things *are* clearer
(e.g. here it's clearer that there's more options related to Real Time Sync)

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

edit/
install went well - I went with recommended settings, which kept the older ini file (custom location) and uninstalled SFFS.
You can customise the whole thing, and even keep both programmes.

Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: cranioscopical on July 01, 2012, 06:22 AM
Seems SFFS 6 has just been released -
it *is* now called Syncovery.

Thanks for the alert — it was news to me.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on July 01, 2012, 10:43 AM
Seems SFFS 6 has just been released -
it *is* now called Syncovery.

Thanks for the alert — it was news to me.
-cranioscopical (July 01, 2012, 06:22 AM)

Yeah, I just accidentally came across it - I think it was just released this week, they probably havent sent notification yet (not to me at any rate).
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on July 01, 2012, 01:27 PM
thanks tomos, appreciate it.  I'm glad there's now a button for selecting the folders, finally!
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on July 05, 2012, 08:20 AM
just got the official mail today (re ugdate to version 6 / new name etc.)

[...]
Version 6 uses new registration codes and you can order your license or upgrade right now. Many customers will receive a free upgrade, if their license purchase was within the past two years.

The page for new orders is this one:
http://www.syncovery.com/purchase/

And the upgrading system is here:
http://www.syncovery.com/upgrade/

This upgrading URL is used for both free and payed upgrades.

The list of new features can be seen here:
http://www.syncovery.com/v6/

Free upgrade if you bought within the last two years :up:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on August 20, 2012, 11:02 PM
Darn - I never did get any notification about this; I just noticed it over in the Genie BU Manager thread!

Weird - I just clicked on Check for Updates in SFFS 5.68a and it downloaded and installed SFFS 5.72... didn't even mention Syncovery, so I still wouldn’t know about it if not for your posts Tom.

Better go take a look. The UI you posted a screenshot of looks almost identical to the current! Tobias never has been into human factors!

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on August 21, 2012, 08:36 AM
hi Jim
you must have gotten lost off the mailing list! It's not really a major update in the sense of big changes - but very fair in the sense that there hasnt been a paid update for years, i mean in spite of the constant updating. (I seem to be having "inarticulate day" today.)

Here's a copy of the email:
Spoiler
Dear Subscribers,

a few days ago we released version 6 of Super Flexible File Synchronizer under the new product name SYNCOVERY. In addition, there's a completely new web site at http://www.syncovery.com. It will be much easier to find the information you are looking for on the new web site.

After one year of development, we are confident that the improvements will be great to have for all our users and customers. Version 6 uses new registration codes and you can order your license or upgrade right now. Many customers will receive a free upgrade, if their license purchase was within the past two years.

The page for new orders is this one:
http://www.syncovery.com/purchase/

And the upgrading system is here:
http://www.syncovery.com/upgrade/

This upgrading URL is used for both free and payed upgrades.

The list of new features can be seen here:
http://www.syncovery.com/v6/

To facilitate the migration for our corporate users, version 6 for Windows is also available under the old product name on http://www.superflexible.com. It will be updated for a short while but eventually be phased out. For the Mac version, this step does not seem necessary.

Super Flexible File Synchronizer and Syncovery can be installed side-by-side as two entirely independent products.

For those customers who are using the ExtremeSync Remote Service, please note that you need to replace it with the new Syncovery Remote Service and update all clients and servers at once, unless you want to keep both Remote Services running during the transition period.

Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on August 21, 2012, 03:40 PM
(J-Macs quote copied from another thread)

Tom, can you explain the "synthetic backup" to me? I hadn't created any new profiles since they added that "feature", so I never even looked at it. To be honest I never knew it was there! Tobias doesn’t announce anything when updates are released - you have to discover updates by manually checking. And the Help file doesn’t even contain the word "synthetic" in it.

have a look at Block Level Copying here (http://www.syncovery.com/block-level-copying/) or in the spoiler. (It seems I have been using it incorrectly at times :-[ )

Block Level Copying
Block Level Copying

Syncovery can detect which parts of a larger file have changed, and copy only the changed blocks rather than the complete file. This feature works similar to Rsync (but it’s not the same).

Copying only the changed blocks can save bandwidth and time, especially over a slow connection. When copying between local disks or in a LAN environment, it can save bandwidth too, but may not always save much copying time, because the source file has to be read in its entirety every time in order to determine the changed blocks.

Only block-oriented file types are eligible for block-level copying. These include database files such as SQL or Outlook PST, as well as drive images and virtual hard disk images (VMs). Stream-based files, on the other hand, will usually cause all blocks to be changed whenever they are modified (for example text documents, spreadsheets, zip files, and photos). Thus block-level copying won’t be able to save much bandwidth with stream-based files.

In Syncovery, block-level copying is called “Partial File Updating”. In many cases, you need to choose only this one checkmark, which is on the Special settings category in the profiles (in Advanced Mode).

The program needs to have fast access to at least one of the sides of the synchronization. The other side may be a low-bandwidth connection. If you are using an Internet Protocol, please note that only SSH/SFTP supports block-level updating directly. The other protocols can only be used with Synthetic Backup (see further down below).

Partial File Updating can work in three different ways:

Mode 1: With Database:
- Source access must be fast
- Destination may be slow
- MD5 checksums are stored in database
- Destination files must not be modified by any other profile, person, or tool
- Destination must be accessed via LAN, VPN, or SSH/SFTP

Mode 2: With Remote Service
[...]

Mode 3: Synthetic Backup:
- similar to Mode 1, plus:
- adds Zip compression, versioning, and filename encoding
- can work locally or with any Internet Protocol for the destination side
- the changed blocks are uploaded in a new, separate zip file every time
- all older zip files must stay on the backup storage, but can be thinned out
- all connection types and Internet Protocols are supported

Mode 1: Slow Destination
In this mode, the speed-up is available when you copy files from a location to which you have fast access (preferably your own hard disk). The destination can be a slow connection, but it must be a normal file system (either LAN or VPN) or SSH/SFTP. For other connections, you can use Synthetic Backup.

Instructions for Mode 1
In your profile, make the following checkmark: Use Partial File Updating, which is on the Special tab sheet when editing the profile in Advanced Mode. The next time you run the profile, a database is created on your hard drive where information needed for the speed-up is stored. The second time you run the profile, you should notice the speed-up.

Mode 2
[...]

Mode 3: Synthetic Backup
This feature is intended for backing up from a local storage to any type of backup storage. The backup can be local or online.

Choose “Synthetic Backup” on the tab sheet Versioning->Synthetic Backup. This will automatically place these additional checkmarks:
- Use Partial File Updating (under Special)
- Filename Encoding (under Versioning)
- Zip Each File Individually (under Zip/Encryption)

Find out more on Synthetic Backup on this page.


at the end there he says Find out more on Synthetic Backup on this page but there is no link...
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on August 21, 2012, 04:05 PM
I'm also curious about this new synthetic backup thing.  If people say it's good, I'll use it.  But I get nervous messing with my backup schemes.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on August 21, 2012, 10:46 PM
Oh... Well... That makes it perfectly clear. Tobias needs to get someone who can do technical writing that is more understandable.

Thank you.

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on August 22, 2012, 04:18 AM
Oh... Well... That makes it perfectly clear. Tobias needs to get someone who can do technical writing that is more understandable.

a summary would be good.

Try this:

It is a combination of Partial File Updating with versioning, where everything is zipped up.
-
I'm using it now for example with my newly installed virtual OS:

      the initial backup was compressed from 6.5 to 3.5 GB.
      after my second backup, log says:
            Transfer amount saved due to partial file updating : 4.7GB
      the original folder is now 8.33 GB; the new backup folder size is 6.14 GB

So original folders of 6.5 + 8.33 = 14.88 GB
Backup of the above                 =   6.14 GB

as to how well it works, I cant say. I will do a test restore when I have time, and report back. As I've said elsewhere, I trust SFFS a lot, but with all the options there are occasionally possibilities of user error.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on August 22, 2012, 10:44 AM
Tom,

My concern with this is it sounds a lot like what regular backup programs call "incremental backup", but on a file by file/versioning basis. regular backup programs offer this on the entire backup job. I've never liked it because you need a series of backups in order to be able to restore. And if one of those becomes corrupted - which is more common than you would think - then nothing can be restored. I always used "Full" backups when I used regular backup programs, and kept two or three full backups, rolling one outr as another was completed. Incremental backups could save time and disk space but each incremental piece requiring all of the rest of them staying non-corrupted made them too risky IMO.

This "synthetic" mode sounds like it could be similar. Maybe not. Guess I'll read up more on it but to be honest I'll probably stick with full file versioning for the files that need it.

Thanks!

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on August 22, 2012, 11:13 AM
Yes Jim -
the whole Partial file updating thing is like an extremist version of incremental :D
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on October 07, 2013, 08:46 AM
Got email notification today -
Amazon S3 no longer works with Syncovery/SFFS Version 5.
Solutions included though:

ATTENTION! Amazon S3 has stopped working with older versions of Super Flexible File Synchronizer last week! If you still have version 5 or older, you need to update your OpenSSL libraries in the Superflexible program folder:

http://www.syncovery.com/release/openssl.zip

Alternatively, you can upgrade to Syncovery version 6. Check your upgrade status on our web site:

http://www.syncovery.com/upgrade/
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on November 17, 2014, 11:40 AM
Syncovery (SFFS) has been upgraded to Version 7 -
as usual, very generous with upgrade pricing: if you paid for version 6, then #7 is free

https://www.syncovery.com/syncovery7/

What's New
What’s new in Syncovery 7

  •    Available as native 64-bit and 32-bit versions (for Windows only). The Mac version remains 32-bit but runs fine on all Intel Macs, including the latest Mac OS 10.10.
  •    All Internet connections with security now use TLS by default and avoid the vulnerable SSL v2 and v3 (especially due to the POODLE vulnerability). You can go back to the older protocols if necessary.
  •    Editable colors and predefined color sets for the Profile Overview and Sync Preview
  •    New Profile Overview setting: “Show Scheduled Profiles Only”
  •    All libraries updated, i.e. new code for many features such as Zipping, FTP, SFTP, HTTP, as well as all other Internet Protocols
  •    Includes latest OpenSSL libraries v1.0.1j on Windows, and SSL is now compatible with all known SMTP servers. On Mac, OpenSSL is part of MacOS, so Apple determines which version to include.
  •    Simultaneous file deletions, renames, moves etc. (similar to files being copied in parallel, it will also be possible to have them be deleted in parallel to save time)
  •    Multithreaded reading of folders in all cases except where a file list cache or a remote lister or one of the new cloud DLLs is used.
  •    New Performance tab sheet on Program Settings dialog, as well as a threading option on the Files tab sheet in each profile.
  •    Syncovery can now detect your Internet connection and run jobs only when a specific connection is active. See the Program Settings dialog, tab sheet “Startup”. The detection works based on the reverse DNS names which Syncovery gets by querying https://www.syncovery.com/whoami.php. You can click this link yourself to see which DNS name your Internet connection has.
  •    File copying up to 100 files in parallel per job is allowed although not recommended. Folder scanning up to 500 threads, but performance may degrade substantially if using more than 50 threads.
  •    Multithreaded multipart upload to Amazon S3 in order to maximize bandwidth usage. You can specify the number of threads on the Program Settings dialog, tab sheet “Cloud”. This setting will also be used for uploads to Glacier and Azure.
  •    Support for MTP devices. You can now sync with any smartphone or camera including Android devices and iPhones. See the new “Device…” buttons below the left and right-hand paths when editing a profile in Advanced Mode.
  •    Support for Windows Event Log and SugarSync cloud storage. Windows Events can be configured on the Program Settings dialog. Containers (buckets/vaults) can be chosen via a Browse dialog for Amazon S3, Glacier, Microsoft Azure, and SugarSync.
  •    Support for Email as Internet Protocol that can be used for syncing, i.e. you can send and receive files via email using a Syncovery profile. All of the new cloud services are now compiled into the main exe files, so that fewer DLLs are required, and the Setup program is now smaller than version 6.
  •    A button “Alternate Data Streams” has been added to the Special tab sheet, which will show a dialog allowing to choose whether Alternate Data Streams should be copied along with the files or not (Windows only). Stripping them from the files may have the advantage that Windows forgets that a file was copied over the network and removes the security prompt when opening it. However, in other cases, Alternate Data Streams may contain valuable information. The default is to copy them along with the main data in the file.
  •    Folders for deleted files can now be relative to the base folder, and you can also use a separate Deleted folder in each subfolder. Examples are shown on the “Folder for deleted files” dialog.
  •    When synchronizing with a server or any network folder, a configuration file can now be imported at the beginning of the sync. That way, members of work groups can be forced to all use the same profile settings. Please see SyncoveryV7serversidesettingsimport.pdf for details.


Planned features (planned for version #7)
Intended new features after the initial release of v7.00

  •    Native support for Sharepoint / Office 365 / OneDrive for Business
  •    Improve support for each cloud service to make the best use of its features.
  •    Real-time two-way syncs and downloads with some cloud services.
  •    Speed up reading of folders (“building the file list”) thru code optimizations as well as multi-threading for all situations including file list cache and remote lister.
  •    Filename Encryption
  •    Support for Additional Encryption Algorithms
  •    Support for Additional Compression Formats other than ZIP
  •    Allow the Monitoring Tool to monitor other Syncovery installations outside of the LAN by communicating via an Internet server.


Installation (there's now an x64 version)
Installation Questions

  •    Syncovery V7 can be installed on top of an existing version and will use the same configuration and database files.
  •    The 32-bit version 7 will replace an existing V6 unless you specify a separate installation folder.
  •    The 64-bit version will automatically be installed into a new folder and can be used side-by-side with any 32-bit version.
  •    You can always go back to version 6 without any issues, because all configuration and database files are 100% comptible.

Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on November 17, 2014, 12:14 PM
Hmm.. I didn't receive any notification about V.7. And when I click on "Check for Updates" it tells me that V.6.73 is available. (I presently have V.6.67d)

Were you notified about the new version, Tom?

Thank you.

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on November 17, 2014, 12:15 PM
Hmm.. I didn't receive any notification about V.7. And when I click on "Check for Updates" it tells me that V.6.73 is available. (I presently have V.6.67d)

Were you notified about the new version, Tom?

Thank you.

Jim
For me, it v6 only checks for v6 updates.  Only v7, after it's installed, will check for v7 updates.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on November 17, 2014, 12:17 PM
OK, thanks Supe! BTW, mine only checks manually; can't find any setting to auto-check for updates. Same for you?

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on November 17, 2014, 01:31 PM
OK, thanks Supe! BTW, mine only checks manually; can't find any setting to auto-check for updates. Same for you?

Jim

yeah, oddly it doesnt even seem to notify of updates.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: tomos on November 17, 2014, 02:10 PM
FWIW
I moved from 32 to 64bit:

After installation, I was given the option to remove the 32 bit version -I was unsure so I kept it.
Next reboot it was back to the 32bit version again.
When I closed that, and launched the 64bit version, I was again given the option to uninstall the 32bit version, and went with it this time. Careful what you click during install - the option to delete previous profiles (or whatever it calls saved jobs) was a bit lowkey for my taste.
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: J-Mac on November 17, 2014, 02:24 PM
Thanks for the info and advice Tomos.

Jim
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: superboyac on November 17, 2014, 09:36 PM
OK, thanks Supe! BTW, mine only checks manually; can't find any setting to auto-check for updates. Same for you?

Jim

yeah, oddly it doesnt even seem to notify of updates.
me too.  I only can do manual checks, no option for automatic.  It gets updated a lot, it would be annoying and I'd probably turn it off anyway!  :D
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: CleverCat on November 18, 2014, 02:48 AM
Thanks to this thread, I checked for updates and I qualified for version 7 just before my 2 years upgrade ran out!

 ;D :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: CleverCat on November 18, 2014, 02:50 AM
Hmm.. I didn't receive any notification about V.7. And when I click on "Check for Updates" it tells me that V.6.73 is available. (I presently have V.6.67d)

Were you notified about the new version, Tom?

Thank you.

Jim
For me, it v6 only checks for v6 updates.  Only v7, after it's installed, will check for v7 updates.

I updated to the latest ver 6 and then it told me I qualify for ver 7  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Mini-Review
Post by: cranioscopical on November 18, 2014, 10:10 AM
Thanks for the heads-up, I hadn't noticed.  :up: