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Title: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on October 16, 2009, 10:03 PM
Thought it might be nice to have a thread where we could talk about what books we are reading and share thoughts and recommendations, etc.

This week I finally started going through Chris Bishop's "Pattern Recognition and Machine Learning":
http://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Recognition-Learning-Information-Statistics/dp/0387310738

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So far i'm really liking it, though its more heavy on math and lacking in higher-level discussion than i would like.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on October 16, 2009, 10:54 PM
Wisdom of the Psyche: Depth Psychology after Neuroscience
Ginette Paris

and

The Guards
Ken Bruen
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: invenit on October 16, 2009, 11:05 PM
"Beginning the Linux Command Line" by Sander van Vugt http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Linux-Command-Line-Sander/dp/1430218894/ref=sr_1_1/182-1397475-4247438?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255751554&sr=8-1

Scott Granneman's "Linux Phrasebook" wet my appetite, and Sander's book gets under the hood without being overwhelming.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on October 16, 2009, 11:10 PM
This week I'm rereading Gerald M. Weinberg's Secrets of Consulting: A Guide to Getting and Giving Advice Successfully for about the 20th time. Excellent commentary and insight into the oftentimes paradoxical world of expert advice. More than a book, it's a collection of usable tools.

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Also highly recommended is another one of Gerry's books: An Introduction to General Systems Thinking. This is one of the true classics.

(Gerry has about a dozen books to his credit. These two titles are easily his best.)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tanis424 on October 17, 2009, 12:36 AM
They're all much too high brow. :)

Just got the latest Discworld novel - Unseen Academicals (http://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Academicals-Discworld-Terry-Pratchett/dp/0061161705/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255757847&sr=8-1).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: CleverCat on October 17, 2009, 01:25 AM
Audio Books as I can't hold a 'real' book... :)

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on October 17, 2009, 01:40 AM
In between atm, but just finished part 3 of Dean Koontz's take on Frankenstein:

Dead and Alive

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And looking forward to the continuing saga of Jack West in 4 days:

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: CleverCat on October 17, 2009, 02:05 AM
Dean Koontz is an amazing writer - I've read his books (when I could hold them)...

He has a style second to none!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on October 17, 2009, 02:49 AM
I don't know how great of a site this is, but I have family and friends on http://www.goodreads.com/ which is a site that does exactly what this thread is for.

You can list the books you've read, write reviews, put books in your "to-read" list, display which book(s) you're currently reading.

I just signed up on it yesterday, but haven't spent the time to thoroughly go through it yet.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: bluesear on October 17, 2009, 03:36 AM
Interesting topic!
I like reading books about linguistics. Hope for more.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on October 17, 2009, 04:01 AM
Dean Koontz is an amazing writer - I've read his books (when I could hold them)...

He has a style second to none!

I have to agree, (naturally), his recent Frankenstein trilogy is more reminiscent of his earlier style, IMHO, which I preferred more than his later "romance adventures", eg. Dark Rivers of the Heart, Lightning, etc.  Although he does throw some really good ones in from time-to-time, eg. The Taking, Seize the Night, Fear Nothing.

Richard Laymon is good for "what if coincidence...." type of novels but for pure non-stop action from virtually page one, it's got to be Matthew Reilly  :Thmbsup:

Bond, (James Bond), is a nancy boy compared to Scarecrow, (Captain Shane Schofield), and Huntsman, (Jack West Jr)  ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on October 17, 2009, 07:37 AM
They're all much too high brow. :)

Just got the latest Discworld novel - Unseen Academicals (http://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Academicals-Discworld-Terry-Pratchett/dp/0061161705/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255757847&sr=8-1).

Don't let what I'm currently reading fool you. I'm nowhere near that high brow.  ;D

(I'm also a big Pratchette fan. I've read everything he's written - and I'm always on the lookout for the next Discworld installment. Great books, all of them. :up: :up:)

For recreational reading, I just finished Carlos Ruiz Zafon's The Shadow of the Wind.

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Love, civil war, mystery, and books (including a secret library of forgotten and "lost" works) - plus a mysterious dead author, whose works of strange fiction are being systematically hunted down and destroyed by a sinister figure.

A plot summary doesn't do it justice. A friend handed it to me when I asked her what it was about and told to me read a little of it instead.

I was hooked after I got about 3 pages into it.

International bestseller.(And for once, deservedly so.) Truly awesome book. :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tanis424 on October 17, 2009, 08:24 AM
For recreational reading, I just finished Carlos Ruiz Zafon's The Shadow of the Wind.

Sounds interesting, added to my "to read" list.

I've recently been reading the Stephanie Plum series by Janet Evanovich - 15 books so far with several novellas too. No need to bring your brain for these, just sheer fun at the expense of Stephanie Plum and an amazing cast of characters, including her Grandmother who's described as "a soup chicken wearing a tracksuit". :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on October 17, 2009, 10:35 AM
Muriel Barbery's The Elegance of the Hedgehog (http://www.mostlyfiction.com/world/barbery.htm) (translated from the French). It's early days yet and I haven't yet decided if I like it...

I haven't read an academic book in about six months  :o I quit my PhD program in January and haven't had much desire since  :( I have a huge backlog of books that I purchased prior to that and have not yet read. Maybe after I get through this novel and revisit some of them...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: zridling on October 18, 2009, 09:43 AM
Philosophy and Chess stuff.

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David Ray Griffin -- Whitehead's Radically Different Postmodern Philosophy

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Alexander Alekhine -- My Best Games of Chess, 1908-1937
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TucknDar on October 18, 2009, 12:32 PM
Currently "Battle Royale" and a few books on childhood in relation to my studies.

I've got a huge list of books (fiction) that I want to get through, too... looking forward to next summer when my studies will be over  8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: gpetrant on October 21, 2009, 07:16 AM
(http://users.vianet.ca/gpetrant/HarryThePotter.jpg)

(I started it back in 2002.  Unfortunately, I can't seem to motivate myself to finish it...and I'm also dealing with self-esteem issues too, now that I've put on a lot of weight.  Hopefully, no one will spoil the ending for me.  It's the trip journey that counts, not the denistation (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/84.gif).)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: PPLandry on October 21, 2009, 08:19 AM
For recreational reading, I just finished Carlos Ruiz Zafon's The Shadow of the Wind.

+1 for Zafon's book. Great suspense in beautiful Barcelona!

Currently reading Michel Folco trilogy: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_loup_est_un_loup



Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on November 08, 2009, 10:09 AM
I've recently been reading the Stephanie Plum series by Janet Evanovich - 15

I gave up on those when they all began to seem the same - off-sage hot sex and on-stage comfort food...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on November 08, 2009, 10:23 AM
Currently reading Kate Elliot's (http://www.kateelliott.com/)  "Traitors' Gate," third in her Crossroads series.  She's a good fantasist, but this one isn't to my mind as good as her earlier Crown of Stars sequence.  Before finding that one, I'd begun to think that fantasies set in pseudo-Mediaeval pseudo-North European milieus were, however enjoyable, using a paint-by-numbers public domain background.  Crown of Stars changed my view on that.  She used the very early Middle Ages, and made it grittily real, rather than starting from unconsidered hand-me-down retellings of Arthurian legend.  The marvellous inverted version of Christianity is fascinating and the character development is excellent.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on November 08, 2009, 11:01 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on November 08, 2009, 03:58 PM
(see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=20287.msg183818#msg183818))

Can you give us a summary when you're done ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on November 08, 2009, 04:04 PM
Sure - it's about the theory of games and its application to evolution  :P
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Perry Mowbray on November 09, 2009, 07:48 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Crush on November 09, 2009, 08:46 AM
I´m now a proud owner of the full Game Programming Gems Series (http://www.gameprogramminggems.com/) and some other interesting things like Game Programming AI by Example (http://www.ai-junkie.com/books/toc_pgaibe.html) or Physics for Game Developers. It´s so much material that I can´t work through within the next year.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on November 09, 2009, 09:13 AM
Crush, maybe you should make a game for NANY 2010?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Crush on November 09, 2009, 09:54 AM
I have too less time to make a game right in time. But I plan a little game. I bought a few weeks ago Robot Maker (http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Takatoku/RobotMaker.htm) and it would be funny to convert this very addictive game to a 3D-game. Do you really prefer to see a game as a NANY entry - not my DocMerger project?
I´m still working sometimes on my 3D-Engine. At the moment it doesn´t supports bone-animations - so all looks very static.
Here are some pictures, but don´t think I made the first one today (can you find my beloved dog I lost 2 months ago?)... I did the X-Cat-model 1 month ago without knowing that I´d show it to you  ;D
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Naked Metalwomen (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3905/metallfrau.jpg)
Youtube Rotating Car Animation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YghJrC2AJoI&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 09, 2009, 03:42 PM
I just finished Meg Rosoff's How I Live Now and was completely amazed by the story - and by the fact that this book is categorized as young adult fiction.

From the book: “Every war has turning points and every person too.”

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The story revolves around a teenage American girl sent to live with her cousins in England shortly before global war breaks out and England becomes an occupied country.

Rather than serving up another predictable 'post-apocalyptic Mad Max' story, Meg Rosoff actually comes very close to portraying what I'd imagine 'quiet war' and enemy occupation would be like in the 21st century.

A enigmatic and quietly frightening book about war and its consequences. Especially for the young.

 8)

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on November 09, 2009, 04:20 PM
Hey - sounds like my kind of book, 40hz  :Thmbsup: Thanks for bringing it to my attention. If I can stay awake long enough to finish my current book, I'll order "How I Live Now" from the library  ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: SteveJohnSteele on November 09, 2009, 06:55 PM
Books? Wow do they still make them things?  :D

Ive opened a few PDFs recently does that count?

Ive been trying to get all my paperbacks in PDF format, then get the PC to read them to me hehe  :P
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 09, 2009, 07:07 PM
Books? Wow do they still make them things?  :D
-SteveJohnSteele (November 09, 2009, 06:55 PM)

Yes. They do...  :)

Ive opened a few PDFs recently does that count?

No. It doesn't...  :P

Ive been trying to get all my paperbacks in PDF format, then get the PC to read them to me hehe  :P

Now that sounds like an interesting idea.  :Thmbsup:

But I was thinking of maybe first trying to find an attractive woman who loves to read aloud, and having her over for tea... Oh wait! I've got one of those already. ;)

Sure beats buying AudioBooks at Barnes & Noble! ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on November 10, 2009, 12:55 AM
I'm currently reading through The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People (http://www.amazon.com/Habits-Highly-Effective-People/dp/0743269519/) and it's becoming more and more evident that I am not a highly effective person... yet!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kishjeff on November 11, 2009, 07:11 PM
cryptonomicon by neal stephenson. seems amusing so far.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Olgeva on November 11, 2009, 11:57 PM
I read the book Hawthorne N. The Scarlet Letter. " Normally

Thought it might be nice to have a thread where we could talk about what books we are reading and share thoughts and recommendations, etc.

This week I finally started going through Chris Bishop's "Pattern Recognition and Machine Learning":
http://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Recognition-Learning-Information-Statistics/dp/0387310738

 (see attachment in previous post (http://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Recognition-Learning-Information-Statistics/dp/0387310738)) (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=20287.msg181396#msg181396)

So far i'm really liking it, though its more heavy on math and lacking in higher-level discussion than i would like.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rgdot on November 12, 2009, 12:25 AM
Finished reading Smart Networking by Liz Lynch (http://www.mhprofessional.com/product.php?isbn=0071602941)
To me books that attempt to teach relationship or networking skills always lack something and it is not a fault of the author. For someone to be able to do all they teach one must already be able to jump the greatest barrier, ie the first and initial step to get into the door.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Olgeva on November 19, 2009, 10:18 PM
Always interesting to know how people live in other countries. I read the book "Dolores Claiborne" writer S. King. Perhaps it should have another name for "Love on the American" :hanged:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 20, 2009, 12:42 PM
Just finished William Kotzwinkle's The Bear Went Over the Mountain.

Dumb as the plot premise may sound, Kotzwinkle somehow manages to pull it off. One of the few books I've ever read that made me laugh out loud a few times - which greatly disturbed a pair of snooty women sitting one table over from where I was reading it. That alone would have made it worth it for me. >:D

Great book. And a really fast read. Perfect thing for a train ride or plane trip - or for freaking out the occasional snob at your local bookstore coffee shop!  :mrgreen:

 :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:

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From Publisher's Weekly: ...Kotzwinkle has imagined a disconsolate Maine professor, Arthur Bramhall, who sets out to write a bestseller, only to have a bear steal it, thinking it's something to eat. This is no ordinary bear, however; he has aspirations to becoming a person (they eat so much better, and with much less trouble, than bears do). What better way to establish an identity than by becoming a celebrity novelist? Soon, the bear has found a pseudonym, Hal Jam, an agent and a publisher. With his distinctively masculine presence, and a monosyllabic way of talking that reminds many of Hemingway, he's on his way to stardom with a novel that everyone agrees has its roots deep in the natural world. Soon, he has a Hollywood agent, too, and the admiration of a Southern writer whose specialty is angels; both of them succumb to Hal's exuberant love-making (since a bear normally does it only once a year, a lot of libido is saved up). A pillar of the Christian right wants Hal's support for a run for the presidency, and Hal is only too willing, since he thinks "candidacy," like most words he doesn't know, means something to eat. Meanwhile, Bramhall, ... is turning into a bear as fast as Hal is becoming human...

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on February 06, 2010, 02:20 AM
Ugh, it took me three and a half months to finally get around to finishing reading the book i started in October (Chris Bishop's Pattern Recognition and Machine Learning).. I definitely would not recommend it for cover-to-cover reading, but as a reference textbook book it would be an excellent source.

Next up has to be something more focused on big picture stuff, and less on algorithm details.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TucknDar on February 06, 2010, 03:40 AM
Just finished "Battle Royale" and started reading "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland". I'll read "Through the Looking Glass" next, to be fully prepared for Tim Burton's version of the tale  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: KynloStephen66515 on February 06, 2010, 06:54 AM
Just finished (for the 2nd time) Andy McNab's, Bravo Two Zero,

Had to read it again as I want to read his follow up book and realized I had completely forgotten what was in this one haha
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: momonan on February 06, 2010, 08:26 AM
Just finished listening to Nassim Taleb's "The Black Swan," poking holes in most probabability theories and generally making fun of their proponents.  He emphasizes the randomness and effect of extraordinary events.  The reader of the audio version has a real sarcastic edge, which makes otherwise dry material quite amusing.   See him before congress on the stimulus program:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X7pNFbGjz0&feature=related

It made a lasting impression on me, but I'd be curious what other think about Taleb's approach -- not to mention his trouble-making style.  Trying to see how his theory might fit into my everyday life.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: SKesselman on February 07, 2010, 05:12 AM
I'm reading Full Catastrophe Living (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Full-Catastrophe-Living/Jon-Kabat-Zinn/e/9780385303125#TABS).
It's boring, but thankfully it came with a very effective class I took, recently: Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction (MBSR).

I'm also reading 2 David Lieberman books which have titles too embarrassing to post - which is too bad, because they're simply about human nature, & how to turn bad (or potentially bad) situations around. Each book has a chapter on a certain dilemma - how to make people feel more empowered, stop gossiping, get into a better mood, feel more confident, etc. Another book is based more on groups & how to get people to get along with each other, stop jealous behavior & verbal abuse, cultivate respect for themselves & one another, help each other out, etc. They're quick, easy reads that attempt to simplify complicated situations or destructive behavior between people - even difficult people - all without hurting anyone, or being secretly, selfishly manipulative.

I think it's good info for people like myself, who enjoy very much getting along with others, but who've found themselves holding back constructive empathy or helpfulness out of fear (or experience) of getting taken advantage of, later on. Perhaps these quick solutions can help others like myself promote harmonious relationships, and express kindness and caring, while still being heard and respected.

(Sorry, it's late. I guess that could've been worded a little better, huh?)

Good night!!!  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on February 07, 2010, 10:15 AM
I'm also reading 2 David Lieberman books which have titles too embarrassing to post - which is too bad, because they're simply about human nature, & how to turn bad (or potentially bad) situations around.

?? How can a book title be too embarrassing to post?!  :o

You're among friends here, let 'er rip!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: SKesselman on February 07, 2010, 01:13 PM
I'm also reading 2 David Lieberman books which have titles too embarrassing to post - which is too bad, because they're simply about human nature, & how to turn bad (or potentially bad) situations around.

?? How can a book title be too embarrassing to post?!  :o

You're among friends here, let 'er rip!

Because the titles, "Get Anyone to do Anything" & "How to Change Anybody" sound pretty desperate. IMO.

They're really just harmless little books. Just, you know, tips & tricks...
Other than to catch your attention, I don't know why he titles his books so dramatically.
There's no hypnosis, NLP, mind control tactics, spells or anything like that.
I need something that will work this time  ;D .
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on February 07, 2010, 01:24 PM
Heh, heh - sorry to have badgered you into confessing that, Sarah  ;D Seriously, though, I don't think the titles are that  embarrassing  :P

I'm a father of two, a husband, and I've spent a fair amount of time in middle management - I know all about the desperation that comes from trying to get others to do things!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on February 07, 2010, 02:08 PM
I know all about the desperation that comes from trying to get others to do things!
Managed it quite well with Sarah, you sly devil!  ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on February 07, 2010, 02:08 PM
Hmm, let's see... of the last ten books I read, five were re-reads (Roger Zelazny's "Chronicles of Amber"), three were Dean Koontz novels, and the other two were Roger MacBride Allen's "The Ring of Charon", and Richard Kadrey's "Sandman Slim".

I'm still in the process of reading the Borland Delphi Language Guide, and the Inform 7 Handbook by Jim Aiken.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: SKesselman on February 07, 2010, 04:41 PM
I know all about the desperation that comes from trying to get others to do things!
Managed it quite well with Sarah, you sly devil!  ;)
-cranioscopical (February 07, 2010, 02:08 PM)

Cranio,
Your deliverance of my social naiveté was hardly necessary...
You don't have to dig too deep to see how few of these clever skills I actually possess.
Otherwise, why would I succumb to to the temptation to buy these books in the first place?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on February 07, 2010, 04:50 PM
Here's the book I'm planning to start on next week:
http://www.amazon.com/Memory-Computational-Brain-Cognitive-Neuroscience/dp/1405122889/
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I'm a very big fan of Randy Gallistel ("Organization of Action" and "Organization of Learning" are very much under-appreciated in neuroscience community i think).

Anyone who wants to read along with me is welcome to order it and discuss; haven't seen the book in person yet so i can't vouch for it's quality ahead of time.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on February 07, 2010, 07:53 PM
You don't have to dig too deep to see...
The elegant social skills that I have witnessed you deploy here belie your words.
Swaying a few others to your ways would be worth a book or three!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: SKesselman on February 08, 2010, 12:45 AM
The elegant social skills that I have witnessed you deploy here belie your words.
Swaying a few others to your ways would be worth a book or three!
-cranioscopical (February 07, 2010, 07:53 PM)

Thank you!  :)   :)   :)

However, I must admit that it takes me quite a while to compose even the simplest post. Edit, edit, edit...
If I only had that kind of time when responding to others verbally.

Side note: I read both books today.
The tactics discussed might work on people of average intelligence & respectable values, but they've got nothing on my subject.
He is way ahead of the game.
So, tomorrow at the book store, I'll be moving from the Self-Help section on to the Psychology section...What a project this is.
I've also read, "Dealing with Difficult People", and can now say with complete confidence that these authors have yet to encounter a truly difficult person. (Sorry, but the girl in the copy room who ignores me when I need help just doesn't meet my criteria as a "difficult person".)
In any case, I have one more book to try, "The Art of Manipulation (http://www.amazon.com/Art-Manipulation-People-Business-Personal/dp/0385270070/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265611271&sr=1-1)". (Talk about sinking morals and values. Eeessshh...)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on February 08, 2010, 10:35 AM
I have one more book to try, "The Art of Manipulation (http://www.amazon.com/Art-Manipulation-People-Business-Personal/dp/0385270070/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265611271&sr=1-1)". (Talk about sinking morals and values. Eeessshh...)
Consider this one...
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: SKesselman on February 08, 2010, 12:37 PM
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-cranioscopical (February 08, 2010, 10:35 AM)

Thank you! Unfortunately, this one is for helping those whose minds have been played around with.
I don't want to help my subject, I need him to help me.
If anyone knows of a book on this subject, here's the problem:
[Warning: It's personal & kind of heavy & I'll totally understand if I get no responses  :)  ]

Spoiler
I need my very controlling, narcissistic dad to cat sit for me for my upcoming trip to France.
Whenever he takes care of her, he refuses to accept any tips from me & yells, "Don't tell me what to do, I know how to take care of a cat".

She has me practically 24 hrs. a day & he stays about 10 minutes with her, twice a day.
When I get home, she is depressed & lethargic (he won't play with her), greasy, (???), sleeping in corners facing the walls & has hairballs (he won't brush her & is happy to tell me so).

He says he'll cat sit, but when I kindly carefully asked him if he could spend a little more time (like, 10 minutes more each trip) with her, he blew up. He feels very put out & complains about it in an angry tone. He says he'll do it as he always does, the way he wants, but I'm not to call him & check on her anymore  :( .

When I did call in the past, all he'd say is, "I'm petting her. She's alive".

He says if he were in my position, he wouldn't ask him for any requests, as I owe him so much for him taking care of her in the first place & I am so lucky he's doing it at all.

It's been my experience that it's best to avoid accepting help from anyone who resents the favor they're doing for you.

I cannot afford a sitter & am re-considering even going on my trip at all.

If anyone hs read this in its entirety, thank you so much for listening. I know it's "off topic", the question was, "What are you reading", not "...and why are you reading it?" Anyway, if anyone knows any books that can help me, ruthless, ill willed or otherwise, please make your suggestion. Thank you again.I really love my cat, she is my constant companion.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on February 08, 2010, 05:12 PM
Hi Sarah - I'd say that you should heed this (your own) advice:

it's best to avoid accepting help from anyone who resents the favor they're doing for you.

As far as books/articles that might help you, I can offer none. But I am sending you some DC credits to help offset the cost of a cat-sitter!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: SKesselman on February 08, 2010, 07:12 PM
As far as books/articles that might help you, I can offer none. But I am sending you some DC credits to help offset the cost of a cat-sitter!

O M G !!!

(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/8Thanks/ty-cat02.jpg)

Darwin,

what a wonderful & kind gesture that is!

You're helping me & my boyfriend have a good time (I won't be worrying about her 'cause I can spoil the sitter  :)).
You're helping an aging animal get the attention and affection she's used to, AND
You're helping the cat-sitter by helping to fill the fridge for her / him!

Your suggestion for me to take my own advice is what helped me to make up my mind, and go with the cat sitter, regardless of the cost.
So, I told my bf & he is paying for it...I don't know what he's giving up in order to do it, but I know it's a lot. Thanks to you, now I can thank the sitter in advance with a really nice tip, food, or anything to make them comfortable and to feel at home here  ;). What a great and unexpected contribution! You rock!

You totally made my day  :)   :)   :)   :)   :) .

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on February 08, 2010, 08:02 PM
I am sending you some DC credits to help offset the cost of a cat-sitter!
Nicely done, sir!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on February 08, 2010, 09:03 PM
Anyone ever read "Var the Stick"?  I'm a fan of Piers Anthony.  He published it when I was two years old ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on February 08, 2010, 10:58 PM
You totally made my day  :)   :)   :)   :)   :) .

Glad to help! I hope you have a GREAT time in France and I hope your cat has a purrfectly lovely time with the sitter  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on February 16, 2010, 06:30 PM
Anyone here read "Off Armageddon Reef" by David Weber.  I'm 2/3 of the way through it, and really enjoying it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: zridling on February 17, 2010, 11:09 PM
Devil's Pact (http://www.amazon.com/review/R3R0E20E8AHR9R/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm), an erotic Western thriller that is so bad it's good. My review is very NSFW. Hilarious.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on February 18, 2010, 12:32 AM
I just finished Gallistel's "Memory and the Computational Brain"; not as good a read as Organization of Action/Learning but kind of an important book for neuroscientists to read.  Well at least the first and last chapters, which argue forcefully that current models of computation and memory in the brain are lacking fundamental properties of agile explicit representation and manipulation of symbols.

Now i need to pick another book..
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on February 18, 2010, 06:43 AM
erotic Western thriller
"Erotic western" and "western thriller" don't compute! :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: steeladept on February 18, 2010, 12:11 PM
kyrathaba - I see you have the same taste in books I do, though I haven't read either of those.  I HAVE read a great many of Piers Anthony's works as well as all of the Honor Harrington series of David Weber's.  Another author I really like if you are interested is Dennis McKiernen (his last name may not be spelled right).  Also, my wife, who is a more avid recreational reader than myself, really likes Elizabeth Moon.  They are not authors of Space/Future fantasy like the two books you mentioned, but they are traditional fantasy instead.  Still you may want to look at those authors and see if they interest you as well.  If you like Piers Anthony, another series I really like if you haven't read them yet is the Apprentice Adept series.  It is a cross-over series of fantasy books - both traditional and sci-fi/future fantasy.  Well written and very entertaining.

As for books I am currently reading, well I am mostly reading work-related whitepapers so I rarely read books anymore.  If I had to say one, though, it would have to be Terry Pratchett's Soul Music.  And I just finished reading the last Harry Potter book, so that series is done.  :D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on February 18, 2010, 02:25 PM
Haven't posted in a while. This is what I can remeber from the past month:

Just finished "The Neck of the Giraffe" by Francis Hitchings (http://www.amazon.ca/Neck-Giraffe-Where-Darwin-Wrong/dp/0330266438/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266524862&sr=1-1), which was very disappointing, primarily because its treatment of evolutionary theory is VERY uneven - in places I got the impression he hadn't a clue about what he is writing about (natural selection) and yet in others I thought he did a reasonable job of presenting the concepts (genetics).  I am currently reading Richard Dawkins' "The Greatest Show on Earth" (http://www.amazon.ca/Greatest-Show-Earth-Evidence-Evolution/dp/1416594787/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266524900&sr=1-1), which is better. Next up are "The Humans Who Went Extinct: Why Neanderthals died out and we survived" by Clive Finlayson (http://www.amazon.ca/Humans-Who-Went-Extinct-Neanderthals/dp/0199239185/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266524919&sr=1-1) and "The Calculus Lifesaver" by Adrian Banner (http://www.amazon.ca/Calculus-Lifesaver-Tools-Need-Excel/dp/0691130884/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266533469&sr=1-1). Prior to "The Neck of the Giraffe", I read "North America's great ape, the Sasquatch : a wildlife biologist looks at the continent's most misunderstood large mammal" by John A. Bindernagel  (http://www.bigfootbiologist.org/page2.html) (his grandsons are in my sons' classes at school) and "Sasquatch : legend meets science" by Jeff Meldrum (http://www.amazon.ca/Sasquatch-Science-Dr-Jeff-Meldrum/dp/0765312174/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266524944&sr=1-1). I found the last quite disappointing. Bindernagel's book didn't get preachy or try to "convert" the reader to the cause, he simply stated at the outset that he was making the assumption that Big Foot/Sasquatches are real and presented a discussion and interpretation of the evidence. Meldrum's book was almost evangelical in its presentation of the evidence and anecdotes, which I found annoying. I remain very skeptical about the existence of sasquatches, but enjoy reading about them.

The last fiction that I read were: "Through Black Spruce" by Joseph Boyden  (http://www.amazon.ca/Through-Black-Spruce-Joseph-Boyden/dp/0670063630) (excellent), Michael Connelley's penultimate effort, "The Scarecrow (http://www.amazon.ca/Scarecrow-Michael-Connelly/dp/044640120X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266524814&sr=1-1)" (very good), and "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card  (http://www.amazon.ca/Enders-Game-Orson-Scott-Card/dp/0765342294/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266524835&sr=1-1) - one of my all time favourites. I have a P.D. James novel queued up for a read courtesy of my mother, but I don't know the title.

EDIT: added links
EDIT 2: added a missing link  ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on February 18, 2010, 08:46 PM
Steeladept, thanks for the suggestions.  I read the Apprentice Adept series years ago, but wouldn't mind a re-read.  Here are some more authors I've enjoyed:

Fred Saberhagen
Troy Denning
Raymond E. Feist
David Eddings
China Mieville
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: zridling on February 18, 2010, 09:28 PM
"Erotic western" and "western thriller" don't compute! :)

That's why you have to read the review. The book is badddddd. So bad, it's good.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Perry Mowbray on February 19, 2010, 04:01 AM
Michael Connelley's penultimate effort, "The Scarecrow (http://www.amazon.ca/Scarecrow-Michael-Connelly/dp/044640120X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266524814&sr=1-1)" (very good),

We enjoyed The Scarecrow too; though it got very mixed (almost polarized) reviews on GoodReads (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4527502.The_Scarecrow).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: parkint on February 19, 2010, 11:03 AM
I have been challenged, by my wife, to read every one of the books in my massive collection (just over 150) of Isaac Asimov literature.

I am [re]reading Robot Visions.

Among my favorites are:
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: slowmaker on February 21, 2010, 02:21 AM
Non-fiction
Currently reading the advance uncorrected proofs of 'Are the Rich Necessary?', by Hunter Lewis (found in a thrift store some time ago, so they are no longer 'advance' at all).
It's okay; I have not read in the economics field before, so I can't compare it to other works, but it has convinced me that some things I previously considered self-evident might not be true at all. It has also convinced me that economics is a seriously vague and muddled subject.

I had begun sporadically working through Ronald Mak's first go at 'Writing Compilers and Interpreters' (quite old), then got sidetracked by the discovery of this site and beginning to work through the Basic section of the DC Programming School. I'll probably get back to that soon.

The last remaining book in my current to-read stack at home is 'Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid'. I started it once before, because it just felt like one of those books I should be ashamed of not having read if I want to keep my nerd cred, but put it back down (don't remember why). Hopefully I'll get to it soon as well...

Fiction
One of the old collections of Van Vogt (SF writer from way back, once famous for writing 'Slan'). I'm away from home right now, so I can't look in my read-and-going-to-pass-it-on box to check the title, but I think it was either 'Destination: Universe!' or 'The Book of Van Vogt'.

On the somewhat newer (by my standards) front, I thoroughly enjoyed 'The Cabinet of Curiosities' by Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child. The Aloysius X. L. Pendergast character in particular is the kind I enjoy, i.e. hyper-intelligent and eccentric.


On a side note, I have to admit to being impressed by some of the titles mentioned in this thread; Darwin and Mouser in particular appear to be reading at a level that makes my selections look like 'Thinner thighs in Thirty Days'.  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TucknDar on February 21, 2010, 03:18 AM
I have been challenged, by my wife, to read every one of the books in my massive collection (just over 150) of Isaac Asimov literature.
:o that's quite an Asimov collection, indeed! I've only read "I, Robot", which I really liked, btw. I've got a few more that I want to read eventually.

Currently reading "Through the Looking Glass" by Lewis Carrol
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: zridling on February 21, 2010, 11:30 AM
I have been challenged, by my wife, to read every one of the books in my massive collection (just over 150) of Isaac Asimov literature.

I've got to admire such a noble quest.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: higherstate on February 21, 2010, 12:41 PM
Hey Guys, I admit I haven't read a fiction book for ages. At the moment I am looking for inspiring stories, does anyone have a favourite biography?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on February 21, 2010, 02:46 PM
One of the old collections of Van Vogt (SF writer from way back, once famous for writing 'Slan'). I'm away from home right now, so I can't look in my read-and-going-to-pass-it-on box to check the title, but I think it was either 'Destination: Universe!' or 'The Book of Van Vogt'.
Wikipedia page on A. E. van Vogt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._E._van_Vogt).  You do realise that DC supporting members and above are Slans, don't you?  8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Curt on March 02, 2010, 05:42 PM
The two last books I've read were:
The Noticer, by Andy Andrews, http://www.andyandrews.com/store/books/product/the-noticer/  
The Shack, by William P Young, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shack


"Finally, a guy meets God!" To me, a non-atheist, The Shack was mindblowing. It is like realizing yet another dimension. It is well written, and it is so full of understanding on the highest level, that I have had a hard time understanding it was 'merely' written by a human. It is out of this world.


An exceptional piece of writing that ushers you directly into the heart and nature of God in the midst of agonizing human suffering. This amazing story will challenge you to consider the person and the plan of God in more expansive terms than you may have ever dreamed.

David Gregory, author of Dinner with a Perfect Stranger
-about 'The Shack'

The Shack is also offered as an Audio♩♪♫♬Book
http://theshackbook.com/

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The Noticer is a fantastic clever book. It doesn't reveal a new dimension but it takes away the veil that may be covering what is already in front of you. "Sometimes, all a person needs is a little perspective".

It comes in all sorts of formats, printed and electronic. I am attaching a large print sample pdf version:
 
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The book has been followed by a large scale project: http://www.thenoticerproject.com/

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Edited: serious spelling error corrected. Thanks, cranioscopical and slowmaker.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: slowmaker on March 02, 2010, 08:35 PM
it takes away the veal that may be covering what is already in front of you.

I'm pretty sure you meant 'veil'; the other way would be mighty gross, I suspect. :D

On the other hand, walking through curtains of veal might be interesting if you're feeling peckish...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on May 28, 2010, 06:10 PM
Just started "Quantum: Einstein, Bohr, and the Great Debate about the Nature of Reality":

http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Einstein-Debate-Nature-Reality/dp/0393078299

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"Kumar describes the clash of titans that took place in the world of physics in the early 20th century, between physicists who did and those who did not believe in the quantum—the strange concept that we now know to be the underpinning of reality. The titans in Kumar's account of the conflict are Albert Einstein and Niels Bohr."
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Josh on May 28, 2010, 06:23 PM
(http://my.safaribooksonline.com/static/201005-681-my/images/9781598638998/9781598638998_s.jpg)

Powershell 2.0 for the absolute beginner
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on May 29, 2010, 06:39 AM
After putting it off for as long as possible, I've finally started to get more formally acquainted with C++.

I'll usually opt for an O'Reilly :-* "animal cover" title when I'm looking to learn a new language. But a friend suggested I take a look at C++ Without Fear by Brian Overland. (ISBN: 978-0-321-24695-0)

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Excellent excellent book. Very readable style. The material is presented in an orderly and logical fashion such that just about anybody should be able to follow along. Three days into it and I'm already writing small but useful C++ console apps - and wondering why I put it off for so long.

The book comes comes with the obligatory CD of examples and includes a C++ compiler. I can't comment on how good the compiler is since I'm using MinGW (http://www.mingw.org) in conjunction with the Code::Blocks (http://www.codeblocks.org) IDE instead.

It lists for $29.99 USD. Amazon sells it for $23 and throws in free shipping if your order totals $25 or more. Get yourself an inexpensive scfi paperback to go with it (breaktime!) and you're set to roll.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on May 29, 2010, 07:23 AM
40hz -- thank you for posting about that book!
i'm often asked to recommend a first c++ book to someone and this may be the new book i will start suggesting.  :up:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on May 29, 2010, 11:26 AM
40hz -- thank you for posting about that book!
i'm often asked to recommend a first c++ book to someone and this may be the new book i will start suggesting.  :up:

Glad it looks good to somebody who actually knows something about coding.  ;D

IMHO, the best feature of the book is what it leaves out. Overland doesn't get into GUI programming, templates, or the STL. His feeling is those topics add a layer of complexity that goes beyond the scope of a basic introduction to C++ and deserve their own separate books and treatments.

I'd have  to say I'd agree, because the thing that turned me off to most C++ books I looked at were all the side trips into templates and frameworks. It was almost like somebody trying to explain the basic rules of tennis while at the same time giving expert pointers on finessing your backhand. To me, it just felt too haphazard.

I like logical, incremental presentations where each topic directly builds on and extends what went before it. Either give me the big picture and then start focusing in - or give me a set of building blocks and show me how to stack them into bigger and bigger castles. I can live and learn something with either approach. It's when you shotgun a presentation (like most Wrox titles do) that I start to get frustrated.

Pacing is also important. Most C++ books either start off uber-slow, but then take off like a bat out of hell after the second chapter - or hit you right between the eyes in the first five pages and leave you struggling to keep up for the rest of the book.

Overand hits a happy balance on both pace and topic complexity.

What can I say? It's a fine book.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on May 29, 2010, 03:46 PM
Finished Quantum today (couldn't put it down).  Great stuff.. Very inspirational and thought provoking.

Highly recommended, especially to those who have some minimal exposure to Quantum Physics and recognize the names of some of the big players (Einstein, Planck, Bohr, Heisenburg, Schrodinger, Dirac, etc.) even if you don't know what roles they played.  Really wonderful stuff and brings the struggle to understand reality to life.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on May 30, 2010, 10:58 PM
IMHO, the best feature of the book is what it leaves out. Overland doesn't get into GUI programming, templates, or the STL. His feeling is those topics add a layer of complexity that goes beyond the scope of a basic introduction to C++ and deserve their own separate books and treatments.
GUI programming doesn't belong in any language book, but I hope the guy doesn't entirely avoid STL... going in-depth is not the best approach to an introductory book, but using new/delete instead of std::vector or char* instead of std::string should be rewarded with capital punishment.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on May 31, 2010, 04:52 AM
I'm slowly making my way through The Art of Unix Programming (http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/) and so far have been finding it worthwhile.

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Thanks to mouser for pointing it out recently  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 01, 2010, 04:57 PM
I've recently started reading 12 Steps to Whole Foods by Robyn Openshaw (http://greensmoothiegirl.com/). Apparently it's a course manual so you won't find it on Amazon.com or at your local Barnes & Noble.

I've got the digital version (https://secure.ultracart.com/catalog/GSG10/10011D.html) ($40), but if you have to have the paper version, you can also buy the printed manual (https://secure.ultracart.com/catalog/GSG10/10011M.html) ($80). Though at that price it might be cheaper to buy the digital version and just print off the pages yourself or take it to a copy shop to get it printed and bound.

Basically the book gives information and steps to get your diet to about 60-80% raw foods with an emphasis on the other 40-20% being mostly whole foods.

It's an education you'd have to read 20+ books to obtain, with over 175 recipes, fully indexed so you can look up recipes that use ingredients you have on hand. Each step has time- and money-saving tips. The intro and appendices give lots of info about getting kids and spouses on board, learning what's true and false in nutrition, understanding kitchen tools and high-nutrition ingredients (and where to get them), and so much more.

The book is aimed at that group of people who say, "I'd like to eat healthier, but I just don't know how." It doesn't just tell you what to eat, it tells you why. And not only that, it tells you how. I'm on chapter 5 and it has had several recipes per chapter so you know how to incorporate that next step in your diet.

The first few steps are:

Month 1. Drink a Green smoothie every day. (about 15 servings of fruits and vegetables per quart, IIRC)
Month 2. Eat a salad every day. If you normally eat a big meat portion for dinner, swap the sizes. Eat a big salad portion and a small meat portion. Then your normally sized prepared meat will last you for two meals and save you money.
Month 3. Make homemade salad dressings for your salads, that don't have the bad stuff in them from store bought dressings.
Month 4. Enjoy good fats, avoid bad fats. (i.e. replace bad fats with good fats).

To be clear: this isn't a diet plan. When you move on to step (month) 2, you don't discontinue step 1. Each step builds on the last, allowing you to change your dietary habits for life over the course of a year. Of course, you can go faster or slower if you want. That's up to you.

It's pretty cool because the chapters encourage you to write in a health journal so you can record and review any changes in your health you've noticed from the new diet, recipes you really liked, etc. In that sense it really is more like a workbook or a manual than just a book for reading.

My wife and I have been trying to have green smoothies lately after my sister introduced us to them, but our blender just wasn't cutting it (literally) so we ordered a nice (and expensive!) Blendtech and got this (digital) book free. I think we're going to just jump right in and start the first 5-6 steps almost all at once (step 1 has to wait for a few days until the Blendtech arrives) since step 5 is about growing your own produce in a garden and the growing season is already upon us.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: steeladept on June 01, 2010, 05:43 PM
Terry Pratchett - Feet of Clay
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on June 01, 2010, 10:00 PM
@Deozan - what's a green smoothie?  :huh:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on June 01, 2010, 10:12 PM
Visual Example of Green Smoothie In This Image (http://www.greensmoothiegirl.com/wp-content/themes/leavy/images/book.jpg)

The ones I had were often darker :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 02, 2010, 11:37 AM
@Deozan - what's a green smoothie?  :huh:

Basically, it's a bunch of fruits, vegetables, and leafy greens (and sometimes other healthy things, like some seeds, nuts, oils and natural sweeteners like honey, agave, or stevia) blended together into a liquid drink, with the consistency of a smoothie. As ewemoa said, they don't always come out green, it really depends on the ingredients you put in. But the idea behind it (I'm guessing) is you can get a really good tasting smoothie that's full of things you might otherwise not care for. Like I said, it's about 15 servings of fruits & veggies in one smoothie, which beats the Food Pyramid's (http://nudosenelpelo.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/food_pyramid.jpg) recommendation of 9 per day.

Here's an example green smoothie recipe from the book:
Spoiler
Tip: For beginners and those trying to convert children, consider using LESS greens and MORE fruit (especially berries and bananas) in the beginning, gradually working up to a 50/50 ratio as described here. Use just the mild flavors in this transition phase, like spinach, kale, collards, and chard. With kids, consider using only spinach the first few days, then gradually sneak in the other mild but excellent greens (chard, collards, and kale). Add other savory or bitter greens only when your family are “experts” in green smoothies! Add a bit more water if you feel the smoothie is too thick.

  • 1. Put 2 C filtered water in the high-power blender.
  • 2. Optionally, add:
    • ¾-1 tsp. stevia (herbal sweetener) or 1/3 C agave syrup (low glycemic index)
    • ¼ whole lemon, including peel (anti-skin cancer, high in flavanoids)
    • 2-3 Tbsp. fresh, refrigerated flaxseed oil (Omega-3-rich oil)
  • 3. Gradually add the following greens until briefly puréed and the mixture comes up to the 5-cup line (or less, if you are “converting”), and then purée the mixture for 90 seconds until very smooth.
    • ¾-1 lb. raw, washed greens:
      • spinach, chard, kale, collards (your mainstays)
      • turnip, mustard, dandelion greens, arugula (use more sparingly, as they are spicy or bitter)
      • lettuces and beet greens (also good—use freely)
      • avocado or cabbage or 1-2 stalks celery (try, to see if you enjoy their inclusion)
      • edible weeds from unsprayed fields (For the adventurous! Purslane has a mild flavor and vines are along the ground everywhere. Use stronger flavors of lambsquarter leaves [not the woody stems], morning glory, and thistle sparingly.)
  • 4. Gradually add the following fruit until the container is very full, then blend for 90 seconds or until smooth:
    • 1-2 bananas (for a creamy texture and sweetness)
    • 1-2 C frozen mixed berries (tastes wonderful and makes the smoothie purple rather than green)
    • any other fruit to taste: our favorites are pears and peaches, but can also use apples, oranges, apricots,
    • cantaloupe (with seeds—very high in antioxidants!), mango, pineapple, anything!

Makes approx. 8 C of 100% raw smoothie.

The more frozen fruit, the tastier your smoothie will be—and your high-power blender can handle it! You can
save your smoothie in the fridge for up to two days—just shake well before drinking.


EDIT: The one above is probably a recipe for those who have been drinking them for a while. Maybe this one would be better to start with:

Anyone will enjoy this easy first-timer’s concoction, including children and those with finicky tastes!
  • 1¾ C water
  • 1 Tbsp. honey or agave
  • 1 10-oz. bag spinach
  • 1 banana (preferably frozen in chunks)
  • 2 C frozen mixed berries
  • 1 peach, pear, apple, or orange
  • Blend all until very smooth. Pour in glasses and enjoy, or refrigerate for up to 48 hours, shaking well before serving. Makes about 3 pints.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 03, 2010, 01:13 PM
We received the blender this morning and made our first smoothie. This is what went into it:

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Looks like some Zuchini, Collard Greens, Chard, Frozen Mixed berries (Blueberries, Blackberries, Raspberries, and Strawberries), a Pear, and some water.

The blender has a smoothie setting, and it only took 12 seconds to blend! YES! Our old blender wouldn't blend and we'd have to try to tamp it down and it still wouldn't work and it would take sometimes 10-15 minutes just to get a smoothie made because it wasn't powerful enough to blend the ingredients.

It tasted slightly bitter which made us realize that we forgot to put honey in it. So we put in about a tablespoon or two of honey, a small handful of flax seeds, and a few frozen mango chunks.

This is what it looked like (some had already been poured out):

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It's not green at all! Kind of a dark reddish/orange-ish/brownish color with a pleasant taste. Looks like the average color of the berries mixed together.

EDIT: Corrected ingredient list.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on June 03, 2010, 03:13 PM
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Currently reading Greg Bear's "Blood Music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Music)". I'm on a sci-fi/fantasy kick of late. Recently, I've read all of the Percy Jackson and the Olympians novels, Greg Bear's The Infinity Concerto and The Serpent Mage (together known as Songs of Earth and Power), and Jack L. Chaulker's Changewinds series.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on June 03, 2010, 03:44 PM
We received the blender this morning
Cool!  Thanks for sharing the details of your experiences  :up:

May I ask how the experience of cleaning is and also the noise level when blending?  We have a VitaMix [1], and the cleaning experience of it (particularly near the blades) leaves much to be desired.  Although in retrospect, it has helped me to consider the issue of cleaning and maintenance when considering new additions to our household :)


[1] To be fair though, our model is from some years back -- I don't know what their latest stuff is like.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 03, 2010, 11:43 PM
We received the blender this morning
Cool!  Thanks for sharing the details of your experiences  :up:

May I ask how the experience of cleaning is and also the noise level when blending?  We have a VitaMix [1], and the cleaning experience of it (particularly near the blades) leaves much to be desired.  Although in retrospect, it has helped me to consider the issue of cleaning and maintenance when considering new additions to our household :)

Blendtec uses a square shaped jar rather than the standard circular jar. I didn't clean it and I wasn't paying close attention. I was putting away the dry dishes while my wife washed the jar and some other dishes. She cleaned the jar in a matter of a few seconds though, and didn't seem to have any troubles. The bottom of the jar has lots of space around the blade so it's easy to reach in all the way to the bottom and wipe around if you had to.

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As for the noise, I didn't think it was particularly noisy (for a blender) but it did make my wife jump when I showed her. To be fair though, she is a bit jumpy at sudden noises. I believe the motor has more horsepower than the Vitamix, but to be honest I don't know if that would make a difference with the noise levels.

EDIT: Added pics
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on June 04, 2010, 12:17 AM
Thanks for the details and pics  :Thmbsup:

It definitely looks much easier to clean than the VitaMix machines.  I wonder if there are devices where one can remove the bottom portion so the cleaning can be a bit safer...

Update: Some VitaMix pics for comparison:

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 04, 2010, 02:02 AM
You have a square jar too? I know a couple people with VitaMix blenders and theirs are all really tall, skinny, circular jars.

I wouldn't want to risk removing the bottom portion (I assume you mean removing the blade and the gear thingy part that goes into the motor) since the Blendtec has multiple warnings about the proper care of that seal.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on June 04, 2010, 03:35 AM
I wouldn't want to risk removing the bottom piece for a similar reason.  Here's what the owner manual has to say:

Recommended blade assembly removal with wrench
(Caution: Do not remove blades unless absolutely necessary!)


I have this memory / image-in-mind of a jar that has a bottom piece (which has a blade attached) that can be unscrewed from the jar.  Perhaps such things used to exist (still exist even), though I wonder about leakage...

One of the nice things about your device is that there are only two blades -- looks less accident prone while cleaning.

BTW, I measure the height of our jar -- it was 26.5 cm (a little shy of 10.5 inches?).

Since I've been contributing to off-topic-ness, I will confess to something else I've been reading -- Programming in Lua, 1st Edition (http://www.lua.org/pil/index.html) (online version).  It beats reading the reference manual by itself, although it covers version 5.0 of the language instead of 5.1 -- for which the following might be handy:

  http://lua-users.org/wiki/MigratingToFiveOne

One of the nice things about their being a plain HTML online version is that it can be read via a mobile device (e.g. an Android device).  I was also able to create an offline version for a recent trip to an area with limited connectivity :up: though the Android devices I've had access to seem terrible at handling offline content with HTML fragment identifiers  :down:

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For some reason, I found the "About the Book" section admirable:

About the Book
I started writing this book in the winter of 1998. (Here, in the southern hemisphere, that means the middle of the year. And "winter" is more like a mild autumn.) At that time, Lua was still in version 3.1. Since then, Lua went through two big changes, first to version 4.0, in 2000, then to version 5.0, in 2003.

It is quite obvious that those changes had a big impact on the book. Some parts lost their raison d'être, such as the detailed explanation around the complexity of upvalues. Whole chapters were rewritten, such as those about the C API, and whole chapters were created, such as the one about coroutines.

What is not obvious, however, is the big impact that the writing of this book had on the evolution of Lua. Not by chance, some of the biggest changes in the language were in areas not yet covered by the book at the time of the change. As I worked through the book, sometimes I suddenly got stuck in a chapter. I could not figure out how to start or even how to motivate it. It is when you try to explain how to use something that you better feel how easy it is to use it (or not). So, those difficulties were strong hints that some things in Lua needed improvement. Other times I succeeded in writing a chapter, only to discover, later, that nobody could understand or agree with what I wrote. Frequently it was my fault (as I writer), but occasionally we spotted another corner of the language that deserved some improvement. (For instance, the transition from upvalues to lexical scoping was triggered by complaints over a feeble attempt, in an earlier draft of this book, to describe upvalues as a kind of lexical scoping.)

The changes of the language deferred the completion of this book; now the completion of this book will probably defer significant changes in the language. There are at least two reasons for that: First, Lua 5.0 is cleaner and more mature than earlier versions of the language (partially thanks to the book). Second, the book adds weight to the culture around the language and therefore increases its inertia. This cultural-weight increase is the first of my main goals with this book. My second main goal is to increase even more the spread of Lua.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 04, 2010, 04:11 AM
I have this memory / image-in-mind of a jar that has a bottom piece (which has a blade attached) that can be unscrewed from the jar.  Perhaps such things used to exist (still exist even), though I wonder about leakage...

The blender we just replaced does that. And it leaked on us quite a few times when it unintentionally became unscrewed while simply inserting the jar onto the motor.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on June 04, 2010, 08:08 AM
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Currently reading Greg Bear's "Blood Music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Music)". I'm on a sci-fi/fantasy kick of late.

Great book! And especially appropriate in the wake of some recent news coming out of the Craig Venter Institute:

First Self-Replicating Synthetic Bacterial Cell

First Self-Replicating, Synthetic Bacterial Cell Constructed by J. Craig Venter Institute Researchers

ROCKVILLE, MD and San Diego, CA (May 20, 2010)— Researchers at the J. Craig Venter Institute (JCVI), a not-for-profit genomic research organization, published results today describing the successful construction of the first self-replicating, synthetic bacterial cell. The team synthesized the 1.08 million base pair chromosome of a modified Mycoplasma mycoides genome. The synthetic cell is called Mycoplasma mycoides JCVI-syn1.0 and is the proof of principle that genomes can be designed in the computer, chemically made in the laboratory and transplanted into a recipient cell to produce a new self-replicating cell controlled only by the synthetic genome.

This research will be published by Daniel Gibson et al in the May 20th edition of Science Express and will appear in an upcoming print issue of Science.

http://www.jcvi.org/cms/press/press-releases/full-text/article/first-self-replicating-synthetic-bacterial-cell-constructed-by-j-craig-venter-institute-researcher/

http://www.darkdaily.com/pathologists-take-note-c-craig-venter-just-created-the-first-synthetic-life-form-604

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Be really cool if they could relocate their facility to either the moon or the international space station until they're absolutely sure about the safety and ramifications of what they're doing. From the documentary running on the Science Channel, it doesn't look like they practice a high degree of containment at their labs. No 'bunny suits' or isolation rooms to be seen anywhere. And the staff gets to go home at night so there's also that vector for something getting out.

from Jurassic Park -"Broadly speaking, the ability of the park is to control the spread of life forms. Because the history of evolution is that life escapes all barriers. Life breaks free. Life expands to new territories. Painfully, perhaps even dangerously. But life finds a way." Malcolm shook his head. "I don't mean to be philosophical, but there it is."

Sorry if I sound paranoid. But in the wake of Three Mile Island, the Exxon Valdez, Chernobyl and BP's latest fiasco in the Gulf, I'm no longer comforted when an expert says "Trust us! We've though of everything that could possibly go wrong - and planned for it."

 :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Carol Haynes on June 04, 2010, 09:00 AM
Just finished the Stieg Larsson Millennium Trilogy:

The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo (originally "Men who Hate Women")
The Girl Who Played with Fire
The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest

Brilliant thriller/crime series originally in Swedish. Unfortunately the author died before he witnessed his success.

All three have now been made into well respected films (in Swedish) but apparently Hollywood is planning how to ruin them!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Girl-Dragon-Tattoo-Stieg-Larsson/dp/1847245455

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Girl-Dragon-Tattoo-DVD/dp/B00361GC7A

The first book takes a while to get into but once you do they are not easy to put down! I had a number of sleepless nights reading and ended up giving up a weekend to finish them off ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 04, 2010, 12:00 PM
First Self-Replicating Synthetic Bacterial Cell

First Self-Replicating, Synthetic Bacterial Cell Constructed by J. Craig Venter Institute Researchers

That sounds like an article I read recently, except the headline was something like "First biological life form made from scratch" and as I read it it became increasingly obvious that it was not made from scratch. The genome was copied from another "simple" lifeform, then modified, then created and injected into a "host" lifeform, which then split, creating one of the original lifeforms and one of the synthetic lifeforms. Then the researchers killed the original lifeform and let the synthetic one proliferate. I wonder if that article was about the same you just posted.

Be really cool if they could relocate their facility to either the moon or the international space station until they're absolutely sure about the safety and ramifications of what they're doing. From the documentary running on the Science Channel, it doesn't look like they practice a high degree of containment at their labs. No 'bunny suits' or isolation rooms to be seen anywhere. And the staff gets to go home at night so there's also that vector for something getting out.

[...]

Sorry if I sound paranoid. But in the wake of Three Mile Island, the Exxon Valdez, Chernobyl and BP's latest fiasco in the Gulf, I'm no longer comforted when an expert says "Trust us! We've though of everything that could possibly go wrong - and planned for it."

I'm with you on that! It really is an amazing discovery, but potentially a very dangerous one. Obviously someone could create a new biological weapon with this technology, but even if it was only used with good intentions, such as creating a bacteria that "ate" carbon dioxide gases to reduce global warming (which is what the article I read said they wanted to do with it), unintended side effects could still destroy life as we know it.

What if the population of these bacteria gets out of control and all the carbon dioxide is removed from the planet, first killing all plant life, then without plant life to supply oxygen, all animal life dies? Or perhaps the atmosphere breaks down because of an imbalance in the gases and whatever else it's made up with, letting dangerous space/sun rays murdilize us all? Those are probably extreme ideas, but even something simpler such as causing birth defects or some sort of unintended disease-like function of the bacteria could cause big trouble.

There are so many possible scenarios of things that could go wrong. It's both awesome (grow back amputated limbs, or diseased/damaged/destroyed organs!) and frightening (biological warfare) at the same time.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 30, 2010, 02:22 AM
I've recently taken an interest H.P. Lovecraft. I'd heard from various sources about the Cthulhu mythos and the Necronomicon, and even played a game that I loved (Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem) which I found out later was greatly inspired by his works. But I'd never read any of Lovecraft's material.

I found out that quite a lot of his work is in the public domain, and there's quite a bit of it available at WikiSource.org (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:H.P._Lovecraft).

So far I've read The Call of Cthulhu and The Whisperer in the Darkness. I'm not sure what to think about The Call of Cthulhu. It's a really short story, only 3 chapters long, and some of the events didn't make sense to me such as:

Spoiler
If Cthulhu was released from his millenia long slumber, why did he go back to sleep again instead of destroying the world or whatever?


The Whisperer in the Darkness, on the other hand, was longer and much more tense. It's kind of interesting how right at the beginning the narrator tells you that he never saw any strange creature, yet:

Spoiler
Towards the end when he's in the midst of them you forget all about that and think they're going to do horrible things to him.


So far I'm slightly disappointed, because I expected much more detailed descriptions of what the horrible creatures look like, but I suppose it's better this way, since Lovecraft lets your imagination do quite a bit of the work by simply saying the horrors are much too alien and terrible to describe (although he does make a good effort of giving a basic description).

I do like the "purer" use of the English language, that is, using words with their original meaning, although it can lead to a misunderstanding here and there (i.e. when he describes "nuclear chaos" in space, he's not talking about nuclear energy--which didn't really exist at that time--but rather the center, or nucleus). And he certainly had an extremely large vocabulary!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on June 30, 2010, 03:03 PM
Oooo...Lovecaft!

One the most original of the modern sci-fi/horror sub-genre writers. He basically created the category.

Grab yourself a heaping dish of elder god sushi and settle in for some fun reading.

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If the descriptions seem vague, the quotations from the Necronomicon maddeningly short, the 'known' facts incomplete and sometimes even contradictory, don't be surprised. Lovecraft deliberately wrote it that way. He firmly believed the reader's imagination could create a more frightening mood when working with hints than their rational mind could working with vivid descriptions. Besides, what description could accurately convey his idea of trans-dimensional, god-like, yet utterly evil entities, whose presence phases in and out of our own time-space continuum.

That's the beauty of Lovecraft. The danger isn't confined to specific places or a times. The minions of Cthullu and the Elder Gods are separated from us by only the thinnest of dimensional walls. Do something wrong, or be a little too confident or careless, and the bogyman really will get you in Lovecraft's universe.

Lovecraft was an avid amateur astronomer. And he also lived at the very start of the era that produced the first real breakthroughs in nuclear energy, particle physics, and relativity. Fascinated as he was by all of this (and being a 'confirmed rationalist' by his own admission) he still admitted to an occasional vague anxiety about where this scientific research might lead mankind. Some of this anxiety, and his concerns about the possible societal reaction to Einstein's new vision of the universe, finds voice in some of his stories:

The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.  -The Call of Cthullu

Interestingly, most of the people who run afoul of these entities in Lovecraft's stories did so by being a little too curious for their own good. They read a forbidden book they shouldn't have, conducted scientific research into something better left alone, played around with an artifact they knew was evil.

For example:

Possibly Gilman ought not to have studied so hard. Non-Euclidean calculus and quantum physics are enough to stretch any brain; and when one mixes them with folklore, and tries to trace a strange background of multi-dimensional reality behind the ghoulish hints of the Gothic tales and the wild whispers of the chimney-corner, one can hardly expect to be wholly free from mental tension.

But he was still content, for at one mighty venture he was to learn all. Damnation, he reflected, is but a word bandied about by those whose blindness leads them to condemn all who can see, even with a single eye.  -Dreams in the Witch House

and...

If the thing did happen, then man must be prepared to accept notions of the cosmos, and of his own place in the seething vortex of time, whose merest mention is paralysing. He must, too, be placed on guard against a specific, lurking peril which, though it will never engulf the whole race, may impose monstrous and unguessable horrors upon certain venturesome members of it.  -Through the Gates of the Silver Key

So what is this "specific lurking peril?"

In one of the few 'quotes' Lovecraft provides from the Necronomicon he 'explains' a bit about what these entities are:

Nor is it to be thought that man is either the oldest or the last of earth’s masters, or that the common bulk of life and substances walks alone.

The Old Ones were, the Old Ones are, and the Old Ones shall be. Not in the spaces we know, but between them They walk, serene and primal, undimensioned and to us unseen.

Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate.

Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth. He knows where the Old Ones broke through of old, and where They shall break through again. He knows where They have trod earth’s fields, and where They still tread them, and why no one can behold Them as They tread.

By Their smell can men sometimes know them near, but of Their semblance can no man know, saving only in the features of those They have begotten on mankind; and of those are there many sorts, differing in likeness from man’s truest eidolon to that shape without sight or substance which is Them.

They walk unseen and foul in lonely places where the Words have been spoken and the Rites howled through at their Seasons. The wind gibbers with Their voices, and the earth mutters with Their consciousness. They bend the forest and crush the city, yet may not forest or city behold the hand that smites.

Kadath in the cold waste hath known Them, and what man knows Kadath?

The ice desert of the South and the sunken isles of Ocean hold stones where Their seal is engraven, but who hath seen the deep frozen city or the sealed tower long garlanded with seaweed and barnacles?

Great Cthulhu is Their cousin, yet can he spy Them only dimly. Iä! Shub-Niggurath!

As a foulness shall ye know Them. Their hand is at your throats, yet ye see Them not; and Their habitation is even one with your guarded threshold.


Yog-Sothoth is the key to the gate, whereby the spheres meet.

Man rules now where They ruled once; They shall soon rule where man rules now.
After summer is winter, and after winter summer...

They wait patient and potent, for here shall They reign again.

So are these things gods? Alien intelligences? The ravings of some lunatics who make these things real only by their belief in in them and their willingness to act on what they believe are commands to serve them?

Who knows. And who cares?  ;D

Lovecraft deliberately puts his readers in the same position as the characters in his stories - confused and struggling to make sense out of something that is basically beyond the ability of the human mind to envision or understand. When Lovecraft talks about the 'unknown' he means the 'unknowable.'

Clark Ashton Smith, who was one of Lovecraft's proteges, wrote many stories using characters and concepts from the Cthullu Mythos. Some years after Lovecraft's death he even tried to arrange the entities into a pantheon of sorts by assigning the various Elder Gods to an elemental framework: Cthullu = water, Hastur = fire, Shub-Niggurath = earth, and Ithaqua = air; and set them in an almost bibical "war in the heavens" backstory.

It didn't work.

I personally prefer Lovecraft's concept of something malignant and unknowable that forever hovers just on the fringe of our senses and subconscious awareness. Something as vague and immaterial as a half remembered nightmare. Something that may abruptly manifest itself and wreck havoc before vanishing just as quickly and without a trace.

Cool stuff.

Lovecraft's favorite story was The Colour Out of Space. He felt that one best succeeded in capturing the sense of awe and fear someone might experience when confronting the completely 'unknowable' as opposed to the merely unknown.

My favorite too!

Here's Virgil Finlay's artwork for the story. (Finlay was Lovecraft's favorite illustrator.)

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P.S. Your objection to the plot problem in The Call of Cthullu has bugged a lot of Lovecraft fans. I always wondered about that part myself even though there was an explanation (of sorts) in the story as to what had happened. A bit unsatisfying, but what can  you do? <*sigh*>

 :Thmbsup:




Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 30, 2010, 08:24 PM
If the descriptions seem vague, the quotations from the Necronomicon maddeningly short, the 'known' facts incomplete and sometimes even contradictory, don't be surprised. Lovecraft deliberately wrote it that way.

Yes, perhaps I was a bit unfair or unclear. I'm not disappointed in the stories. Rather, I wanted to learn everything there was to learn about the Cthulhu mythos from Lovecraft himself, so my expectation that all would be revealed was disappointed by the fact that one cannot know the unknowable.

I wanted my curiosity satiated, but the nature of the topic is that it only becomes curiouser the more you uncover.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: AndyM on June 30, 2010, 08:41 PM
Currently reading Greg Bear's "Blood Music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Music)". ...

Haven't yet read a Greg Bear book that wasn't excellent.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on June 30, 2010, 09:42 PM
Currently reading Greg Bear's "Blood Music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Music)". ...

Haven't yet read a Greg Bear book that wasn't excellent.

Yes! I enjoyed it thoroughly. I'm no finishing off "Oath of Fealty" (http://www.amazon.ca/Oath-Fealty-Elizabeth-Moon/dp/0345508742) by Elizabeth Moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Moon), having devoured the first three books in the Deed of Paksenarrion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Deed_of_Paksenarrion) series earlier this month.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: AndyM on June 30, 2010, 10:10 PM
.... I'm no finishing off "Oath of Fealty" by Elizabeth Moon, having devoured the first three books in the Deed of Paksenarrion series earlier this month. ...
Thanks, those look good.  I will definitely check them out.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on October 05, 2010, 12:20 PM
I've been reading Eric Raymond's short collection of essays on Open Source software, "The Cathedral and the Bazaar (http://www.amazon.com/Cathedral-Bazaar-Eric-S-Raymond/dp/1607962284/)".
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If you're an Open Source fan you probably have heard about or even read Eric's essay of the same name -- but a couple of the other essay's are quite interesting and tackle seriously the goal of explaining and justifying Open Source from an economic theory standpoint -- in many ways a quite conservative-leaning economic theory (which surprised me but may help explain why the article/book has been so influential).

I am still struggling to get a grip on the full ramifications of open sourcing software from the standpoint of an independent developer, and the book is raising a few issues i didn't think about, while at the same time confirming some of my concerns.  Definitely recommended.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on October 05, 2010, 03:06 PM
On a thriller kick:

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ljbirns on October 05, 2010, 08:03 PM
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson.    This one puts your life on hold until you finish it!

The Girl Who Played with Fire                                do the same
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on October 05, 2010, 08:11 PM
I've recently read:

Armageddon Reef by David Weber
By Heresies Distressed by David Weber
The Left Hand of God by Paul Hoffman


Currently reading:

Life Expectancy by Dean Koontz
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on October 06, 2010, 12:36 AM
I've started re-reading all the Necroscopew series, currently on The Last Aerie:

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Brian Lumley (http://www.brianlumley.com/) has also written books relating to the Cthulhu (http://www.brianlumley.com/books/cthulhu/) mythology, (which I've yet to read).

Life Expectancy by Dean Koontz

Another of my limited number of favourite authors, his Frankenstein series is excellent.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on October 06, 2010, 10:51 AM
Read so far, this year:

   1. Frankenstein: Lost Souls, by Dean Koontz
   2. The Left Hand of God, by Paul Hoffman
   3. The Passage, by Justin Cronin
   4. Relentless, by Dean Koontz
   5. The World Inside, by Robert Silverberg
   6. Across the Nightingale Floor, by Lian Hern
   7. By Schism Rent Asunder, by David Weber
   8. Off Armageddon Reef, by David Weber
   9. Var the Stick, by Piers Anthony (1973)
  10. The Many-Colored Land (422 pp.), by Julian May
  11. The Ring of Charon, by Roger MacBride Allen
  12. Sandman Slim, by Richard Kadrey
  13. The Courts of Chaos, by Roger Zelazny
  14. The Hand of Oberon, by Roger Zelazny
  15. Signs of the Unicorn, by Roger Zelazny
  16. The Guns of Avalon, by Roger Zelazny
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on October 16, 2010, 09:17 AM
Another of my limited number of favourite authors, his Frankenstein series is excellent.

+1.

I've read them all (that is, those he's completed.  He still lacks two in the second Frankenstein trilogy).

Books I've read in recent years:

link (http://www.glensforkumc.com/non_church/books.html)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on October 16, 2010, 10:41 AM
Well... concurrently I am reading:

The Lost Hero - Rick Riordan
Chorus Skating - Alan Dean Foste
The Hunger Games - Suzanne Collins

I love my ebook Reader  :-*
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on October 17, 2010, 02:39 PM
Just finished "Life Expectancy" by Dean Koontz.  Have started reading "Dragon Tears" by same.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on October 20, 2010, 08:29 AM
Just finished "Life Expectancy" by Dean Koontz.  Have started reading "Dragon Tears" by same.
Hmm Dragon Tears is for me one of the best from DK !

I am just finishing the 3rd book from the latest Terro Brooks Shannara trilogy, The Gypsy Morph.  Next in line is "The Road" from Mc Cormack (?), still in the post-apocalyptic environment.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on October 20, 2010, 11:53 AM
Heh, heh, I finished the Hunger Games trilogy this weekend ("Hunger Games", "Catching Fire", "Mockinjay") and just finished "The Lost Hero". I'm almost done "Chorus Skating" as well... I got so caught up in the Hunger Games that I read them all first...

What to read next (other than The Criminal Event (http://www.criminalevent-4e.nelson.com/default.html), though I've already read it cover to cover a couple of times)?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on October 20, 2010, 03:47 PM
BTW, speaking of Dean Koontz, I am looking for a specific title from him, but I just know a few elements of the synopsis. I  have not been able to find the right title so far.  I have read several of his novels, searched on the Net, to no avail.  Is there any DK reader here (not readers from Denmark I mean...) ?

Here are the elements I recall : at the beginning of the story, a mother and her son (or daughter) are living in our world but are in fact of some kind of a royal family from another realm somehow connected to ours, and some people would like them to disappear so that the throne remains theirs.

It would be a "fantasy" novel from DK.

Anyone, anyone ?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on October 20, 2010, 05:07 PM
Here are the elements I recall : at the beginning of the story, a mother and her son (or daughter) are living in our world but are in fact of some kind of a royal family from another realm somehow connected to ours, and some people would like them to disappear so that the throne remains theirs.

It would be a "fantasy" novel from DK.

Have you checked the list at his website, maybe one of the titles will jog your memory - there are excerpts from the ones still in print.  Maybe his earlier SciFi stuff, (all out of print)?

Dean Koontz (http://www.deankoontz.com/all-books/)

He has/does write under a few pseudonyms - almost all the books I've read under his name, (and Leigh Nichols), have been Suspense/Thriller with a touch of SciFi, (barring childrens and non-fiction).


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on October 21, 2010, 03:40 AM

Have you checked the list at his website, maybe one of the titles will jog your memory - there are excerpts from the ones still in print.  Maybe his earlier SciFi stuff, (all out of print)?

Dean Koontz (http://www.deankoontz.com/all-books/)

He has/does write under a few pseudonyms - almost all the books I've read under his name, (and Leigh Nichols), have been Suspense/Thriller with a touch of SciFi, (barring childrens and non-fiction).

Not sure I did, but I will !  Thanks.  In the mean time, if someone here recognizes the synopsis...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on October 21, 2010, 06:40 AM
In the mean time, if someone here recognizes the synopsis...

Hmm, I've not read that one, yet. 
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on October 21, 2010, 07:56 AM
I had a look at several titles, pre-2002 published (I know it was released in French between 1988 and 2002), but did not found any so far that would match the synopsis.  But I have not checked the full list yet...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mahesh2k on October 21, 2010, 09:01 AM
Ah thanks for lovecraft suggestion.  :)

i finished these books:

1. Mistakes were made but not by me - Carol tavris

2. Rapid development - Steve mcconel

3.  Linchpin - Seth godin

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mark1959 on October 24, 2010, 03:21 AM
Couple which are at opposite ends of the spectrum:

The Mighty Walzer - Howard Jacobsen; hilarious and the best 'sporting' novel ever (it's about table tennis)
Feast of The Goat - Mario Vargas Llosa; very dark indeed but compelling
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on November 10, 2010, 07:45 PM
Just finished "Dragon Tears" (Dean Koontz).

Now reading "Under the Dome" (Stephen King).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on November 10, 2010, 10:28 PM
I just read "Feed" by M.T. Anderson (have a student reading it) and enjoyed it immensely. The premise is a dystopic future in which computers and an internet-type feed are hardwired into our bodies and integrated directly into our thoughts. So... people walk around with constant advertising targetting them depending on what they are looking at/passing, and carry on private text conversations with others, share memories, including smells and other tactile senses, with each other, etc.

I'm about to start reading Michael Connelly's latest, "Reversal" and have also started Harry Turtledove's "How Few Remain".
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on November 13, 2010, 12:19 PM
I'm halfway through, and enjoying thoroughly:

"The D Programming Language (http://www.amazon.com/D-Programming-Language-Andrei-Alexandrescu/dp/0321635361/)" by Andrei Alexandrescu:

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D is heavily based on C++, but attempts to modernize the language while still keeping a focus on efficiency and systems level programming.  It's an interesting language, with a lot to like about it for those who want to keep as close to the C++ spirit while still breaking away from backward compatibility and avoiding the messiness of C++0x (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B0x).

I've previously read the earlier book "Learn to Tango with D (http://www.amazon.com/Learn-Tango-D-Kris-Bell/dp/1590599608)" which is a good fast intro to the language, but recently D underwent a fairly dramatic change, labeled itself D 2.0, and this book is a much different fish.  Alexandrescu's book is deep, interesting, and serious.  It's a great book for those of us who are perhaps not as much interested in USING the language, but are keenly interested in programming language design decisions.  Very enjoyable reading, especially coming from a C++ background.

i'll note that this represents a redemption of Alexandrescu in my mind, since his previous book that i've read, Modern C++ Design: Generic Programming and Design Patterns Applied (http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Design-Generic-Programming-Patterns/dp/0201704315) represented an impressively cool and twisted book on the use of C++ template programming that i think serves as a good example of exactly how not to program.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 13, 2010, 01:21 PM
One book I'm currently plowing through is Stephen Wolfram's  massive (1192 pages and 5.5 lbs!) tome: A New Kind of Science.

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I've heard so much about this guy that I couldn't wait to see what he had to say about his own work - as opposed to what others have said about it.

Occasionally interesting, often repetitious, and chock full of the author's inflated notions of self-importance. Much like the Wolfram|Alpha engine itself, there's a good chance there's far less here than meets the eye.

I also have an occasional problem with his making personal claims to "discoveries" and insights that have obviously been made by others long before him. Either this guy has an ego the size of a truck, or he is painfully oblivious to all the mathematical research going on around him.

Since I'm reading it a few pages at a time (with just before bedtime tea) I've only made it about a third of the way through so far. I'll probably finish it since I keep thinking there's something I'm missing, with hopes it doesn't turn out to be mostly smoke and snake oil.

On a positive note, it is well written and nicely illustrated.  :-\

---------

Note: I got my copy at our local library book sale for four bucks. If I had plunked down the $45 cover price I'd be pretty pissed with myself right now.
 ;D

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on November 13, 2010, 01:38 PM
Occasionally interesting, often repetitious, and chock full of the author's inflated notions of self-importance. Much like the Wolfram|Alpha engine itself, there's a good chance there's far less here than meets the eye.

I also have an occasional problem with his making personal claims to "discoveries" and insights that have obviously been made by others long before him. Either this guy has an ego the size of a truck, or he is painfully oblivious to all the mathematical research going on around him.

i've read it and would echo everything you've said but suggest you are understating the crappiness.

i'm not sure if i've already written about how irritated i was with the book here on this forum or just in countless emails when i read it a couple of years ago.

The bottom line is that while the book may help inspire you to think about some interesting things, it much better used as an example for scientists about why its such a bad idea to isolate yourself from the rest of the scientific community and try to write an epic book without paying any attention to what anyone else is doing for 20 years and without getting any feedback.

The things that are genuinely interesting in the book were noted and explored better by smarter people decades ago, and go completely uncited in the book.  and the rest of the book is wolfram over and over and over telling you how amazing and insane and hard to understand the concept of complexity emerging from simple rules is -- something which became completely non-controversial a long long time ago.

Just working from a faint memory now, but I also think there are some other more interesting problems with the book.  I had the chance to press Wolfram about these at a talk he gave once. For example i think there is a central and interesting problem with Wolfram's book, in that the kinds of emergent systems he is most interested in are these that are largely unpredictable without explicit single-step simulation.. and he connects this with natural phenomena (and many have explored long ago fractal patterns in nature, snail shells, etc.); but when considering the physical world one can't help but be impressed by how incredibly predictable much of it is at long timescales, for example paths of planets, etc.  I think i would argue that these "unpredictable" emergent systems that wolfram focuses on as the key to understanding the natural world are precisely NOT the kinds of systems we see for functionally significant large-scale systems in nature.  But now we are getting into some esoteric stuff.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 13, 2010, 02:50 PM
@Mouser: well...that ringing 'endorsement' is enough to make me decide to cut my losses and stop reading Wolfram. I've got enough far more interesting books I want to get caught up on that there's no point in my wasting the effort to chug through those last 800 pages.

Thx for the input.  :Thmbsup:

(And all this time I thought maybe it was just...me!)

---

P.S. If anybody wants this book, drop me a PM and I'll mail it to you if your address is in the USA. :mrgreen:

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: phitsc on November 13, 2010, 03:28 PM
I'm halfway through, and enjoying thoroughly:

"The D Programming Language (http://www.amazon.com/D-Programming-Language-Andrei-Alexandrescu/dp/0321635361/)" by Andrei Alexandrescu:

 (see attachment in previous post (http://www.amazon.com/D-Programming-Language-Andrei-Alexandrescu/dp/0321635361/)) (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=20287.msg223614#msg223614)

D is heavily based on C++, but attempts to modernize the language while still keeping a focus on efficiency and systems level programming.  It's an interesting language, with a lot to like about it for those who want to keep as close to the C++ spirit while still breaking away from backward compatibility and avoiding the messiness of C++0x (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B0x).

I've previously read the earlier book "Learn to Tango with D (http://www.amazon.com/Learn-Tango-D-Kris-Bell/dp/1590599608)" which is a good fast intro to the language, but recently D underwent a fairly dramatic change, labeled itself D 2.0, and this book is a much different fish.  Alexandrescu's book is deep, interesting, and serious.  It's a great book for those of us who are perhaps not as much interested in USING the language, but are keenly interested in programming language design decisions.  Very enjoyable reading, especially coming from a C++ background.

i'll note that this represents a redemption of Alexandrescu in my mind, since his previous book that i've read, Modern C++ Design: Generic Programming and Design Patterns Applied (http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Design-Generic-Programming-Patterns/dp/0201704315) represented an impressively cool and twisted book on the use of C++ template programming that i think serves as a good example of exactly how not to program.

I've read an article about D written by Alexandrescu and really liked his writing style. Probably because we seem to share the same kind of humour. I can remember now that I thought I'd probably read that book once it's available just because of that :).

I honestly can't remember if I found Modern C++ design funny ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: CodeTRUCKER on November 13, 2010, 03:48 PM
@Mouser: well...that ringing 'endorsement' is enough to make me decide to cut my losses and stop reading Wolfram. I've got enough far more interesting books I want to get caught up on that there's no point in my wasting the effort to chug through those last 800 pages.

Thx for the input.  :Thmbsup:

(And all this time I thought maybe it was just...me!)

---

P.S. If anybody wants this book, drop me a PM and I'll mail it to you if your address is in the USA. :mrgreen:


Hmmm.... maybe you should rethink your position.  Here's why...

The joke concerns twin boys of five or six. Worried that the boys had developed extreme personalities -- one was a total pessimist, the other a total optimist -- their parents took them to a psychiatrist.

First the psychiatrist treated the pessimist. Trying to brighten his outlook, the psychiatrist took him to a room piled to the ceiling with brand-new toys. But instead of yelping with delight, the little boy burst into tears. "What's the matter?" the psychiatrist asked, baffled. "Don't you want to play with any of the toys?" "Yes," the little boy bawled, "but if I did I'd only break them."

Next the psychiatrist treated the optimist. Trying to dampen his out look, the psychiatrist took him to a room piled to the ceiling with horse manure. But instead of wrinkling his nose in disgust, the optimist emitted just the yelp of delight the psychiatrist had been hoping to hear from his brother, the pessimist. Then he clambered to the top of the pile, dropped to his knees, and began gleefully digging out scoop after scoop with his bare hands. "What do you think you're doing?" the psychiatrist asked, just as baffled by the optimist as he had been by the pessimist. "With all this manure," the little boy replied, beaming, "there must be a pony in here somewhere!"


;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 13, 2010, 04:56 PM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on November 14, 2010, 10:40 AM
The premise is a dystopic future in which computers and an internet-type feed are hardwired into our bodies and integrated directly into our thoughts. So... people walk around with constant advertising targetting them depending on what they are looking at/passing, and carry on private text conversations with others, share memories,

Er...  don't you have anyone with an Internet-connected mobile phone near you?   :o  I mean, the future is now the present?  And why engage in a series of doubtless painful, expensive operations to insert implants, probably needing them done over in a few years time for maintenance and upgrading, when you could just go to a store, buy an off-the-shelf iSucker, and you're good to go?

Current book in progress:  The life and works of Alfred Bestall, illustrator of Rupert Bear by Caroline G. Bott

Just finished:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on November 14, 2010, 04:54 PM
I read the Bartimaeus trilogy earlier this year - loved it! Therefore, I MUST read "The Ring of Solomon" - thanks for the pointer, I would not have known that it is out otherwise.

"Feed" was published about 8 years ago and "worked" for me because even after such a brief time it seems prescient...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on November 14, 2010, 05:19 PM
+1 for the Bartimaeus Trilogy
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on November 15, 2010, 03:24 PM
I MUST read "The Ring of Solomon"

Don't overlook Heroes of the Valley either  8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on November 15, 2010, 06:29 PM
I MUST read "The Ring of Solomon"

Don't overlook Heroes of the Valley either  8)

Doh! That looks good as well! Thanks for pointing that one out, too  :-*
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on November 15, 2010, 08:23 PM
I can heartily recommend "The Fionavar Tapestry" by Guy Gavriel Kay.  Read those books years ago when they first came out.  Thinking about getting them again, this time for the Kindle.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: KynloStephen66515 on November 15, 2010, 08:37 PM
Very Very Ammusing.
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Started Reading this, then stopped cause it turned stupid and boring.
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: AndyM on November 15, 2010, 08:38 PM
2nd that
I can heartily recommend "The Fionavar Tapestry" by Guy Gavriel Kay.
2nd that, pretty much anything by Guy Gavriel Kay.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on November 15, 2010, 09:09 PM
I can heartily recommend "The Fionavar Tapestry" by Guy Gavriel Kay.
2nd that, pretty much anything by Guy Gavriel Kay.

Yep.  Also was quite impressed by Tigana and A Song for Arbonne.  Both were extremely lyrical.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on November 15, 2010, 10:25 PM
Right - he's on my list (sigh! it's growing)...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on November 23, 2010, 09:54 PM
Finished "Under the Dome" (Stephen King) -- good read!

Now reading "I Am Number Four" (Pittacus Lore), first in a series (others haven't been written yet)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on November 30, 2010, 08:17 PM
Finished "I Am Number Four".  Pros: fast-paced, interesting concepts.  Cons: seems geared a bit more to younger readers (dare I say "teens").  I give it 3.5 stars.

Finished "Infected" by Scott Sigler.  Excellent read.  Very fast-paced, held my interest.  Good prose.  I give it 4 stars.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: AndyM on November 30, 2010, 09:23 PM
Charles de Lint
Octavia Butler
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 04, 2010, 06:09 PM
Just finished "Sole Survivor" (Dean Koontz) -- seventeenth novel of his I've read, thus far.  Quite entertaining...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on December 04, 2010, 06:24 PM
The reviews of this sounded good enough to make me read it, and i rarely read fiction:
http://www.amazon.com/Sandman-Slim-Richard-Kadrey/dp/0061976261

Sandman Slim.. provides biting humor, an over-the-top antihero and a rich stew of metaphoric language in this testosterone- and adrenaline-charged noir thriller. James Stark spent 11 years killing monsters in Lucifer's arena for the entertainment of fallen angels, but now he's back in seedy, magic-riddled L.A., trying to avenge his girlfriend's murder and hunt down Mason Faim, the black magician responsible for getting him sent downtown. He meets with some initial success, beheading second-rate magician Kasabian (whose head becomes Stark's smart-mouthed sidekick), but he can't find Faim. Instead he encounters Homeland Security agents, a near-psychotic angel and some odd nonhuman, nonangelic beings called the kissi. Darkly atmospheric settings, such as a posh gentlemen's club where angels are tortured in an attempt to bring about Armageddon, bring this violent fantasy into sharp, compelling focus.

Review
“If Simon R. Green wrote an episode of Dog the Bounty Hunter, it would read much like Sandman Slim – violent, vivid, non-stop action of the supernatural kind. I couldn’t put it down.” (Charlaine Harris )

“The most hard-boiled piece of supernatural fiction I’ve ever had the pleasure of reading. … all confident and energetic and fresh and angry. I loved this book and all its screwed-up people.” (Cory Doctorow, author of Little Brother )

“The best B movie I’ve read in at least twenty years. An addictively satisfying, deeply amusing, dirty-ass masterpiece, Sandman Slim swerves hell-bent through our culture’s impacted gridlock of genres…it’s like watching Sergio Leone and Clive Barker co-direct from a script by Jim Thompson and S. Clay Wilson.” (William Gibson )

“Sarcastic, irreverent and ridiculously enjoyable riff on the Urban Fantasy genre. … a lot like a mosh pit -- rough, exuberant, unpredictable -- and a heck of a lot of fun.” (Miami Herald )

“Nicotine and octane in equal parts might come close to the high-energy buzz from Richard Kadrey’s Sandman Slim. Crisp world building, recognizable and fully-realized characters, and a refreshingly unique storytelling style make for an absorbing read.Sandman Slim is my kind of hero.” (Kim Harrison )

“Paced like greased lightning (watch out for friction burns on your turning finger), blend the movie-ish delights of tough guy noir and such smart-mouthgore-fests as “Reanimator” and “Army of Darkness”, seasoned by soupcons of Gaimanian romanticism and Koontzian sentiment.” (Booklist )


It wasn't bad.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 04, 2010, 10:03 PM
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I read "Sandman Slim" earlier this year.  Pretty fast-paced and entertaining.  Not suitable for children.  It's also rather irreverent, but it has that dark, gritty texture that a lot of people seem to enjoy.  Like I indicated, I liked it.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 05, 2010, 03:20 AM
Digging through some boxes of books I have in storage, I found my old battered paperback edition of John Myers Myers' (not a typo) fantasy masterpiece: Silverlock. I remembered how much I enjoyed it and decided to give it a re-read to see if it was still as great a book as I remembered.

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For the next few hours I became a cliche. Because once I started Silverlock, I really couldn't put it down.  And I lost the better part of a night's sleep doing so.

Yes, it really is that good...

The story revolves around a self-centered and cynical Chicago businessman by the name of A. Clarence Shandon (aka Silverlock) who finds himself shipwrecked in a strange country known only as The Commonwealth. The Commonwealth seems to be composed entirely of people and places from the great works of adventure fiction - something Shandon (whose education extends only as far as a BA in "business administration" could take him) is completely and delightfully ignorant about.

What follows is an allegorical coming of age story so well-written that it never once gets heavy-handed or obvious. Shandon encounters Orpheus, Mephistopheles, Circe, a certain sorrowful knight, Beowulf, and a host of others who guide, challenge, and occasionally give his ass a swift kick.

One of the fun things about this book is trying to identify all the literary allusions, characters, and works (there are hundreds) found throughout the story.

But enough blathering from me. Read this book. It's a masterpiece.  :Thmbsup:

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NESFA (http://www.nesfa.org/) has released an edition of Silverlock (http://www.amazon.com/Silverlock-Including-Companion-Nesfas-Choice/dp/1886778523/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291538938&sr=8-1) in hardcover which includes the hard-to-find Silverlock Companion which gives a complete listing and bibliography of all the "stuff" found in the story.

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I just ordered a copy from Amazon. My old paperback has definitely seen better days. And if I wind up thumbing through this copy as much as I did my old one, I think I'd be better of with having it in hardcover. At $25, it's a good deal since NESFA editions are well made books.

There's also an inexpensive trade paperback available for about $10 here (http://www.amazon.com/Silverlock-John-Myers/dp/B000GG4FYK/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291539418&sr=1-3).

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 05, 2010, 09:47 AM
Thanks for the great info, 40hz!  I will give this one a try!

Question?  If I buy the hardback from Amazon, does that also mean I'm entitled to the Kindle version?  Or is it one or the other?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: edbro on December 05, 2010, 10:41 AM
Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell. Beautiful writing.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 05, 2010, 10:47 AM
@kyrathaba: I'm pretty sure it's one or the other. Which is one more reason why I don't have, or plan on getting, a Kindle. I have too much money invested in paper to be willing to re-buy all the stuff I'd want on it.

Besides... I like the idea of owning and having complete control of my library. With a Kindle it's more like you're renting. You're only licensing the limited right to read something - and that right is subject to change at Amazon's discretion.

Yoiks!!!

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 05, 2010, 01:20 PM
You're only licensing the limited right to read something - and that right is subject to change at Amazon's discretion.

Does that mean Amazon could deny me the ability to read something I've paid for and downloaded?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on December 05, 2010, 01:58 PM
You're only licensing the limited right to read something - and that right is subject to change at Amazon's discretion.

Does that mean Amazon could deny me the ability to read something I've paid for and downloaded?

Yes! It's already happened. Of course, I can't remember the titiles involved, but there was a stink earlier this year about it...

EDIT: It was actually over a year ago, involved two George Orwell titles, and Amazon has vowed not to repeat it: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10290047-56.html
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 05, 2010, 02:23 PM
Thanks for that link, Darwin.  I read the article.  It appears Amazon was trying to act in compliance with the law, and that they have subsequently changed their own internal policy (and perhaps their arrangement with third party suppliers) to prevent a recurrence.  I sure hope so.  I was relieved to learn that they did at least refund the purchase cost of the revoked downloaded materials.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on December 05, 2010, 04:34 PM
Just finished: Captain Alatriste by Arturo Pérez-Reverte.
  The first volume in a series that's a sort of a Spanish equipment of the Three Musketeers, by an author who's a fan of Dumas.  I was a bit disappointed, especially after the same author's excellent free-standing present-day novels, The Flanders Panel and The Seville Communion.

Just finished:  The Old Straight Track by Alfred Watkins.
  The original ley-line book, that was later to inspire a multitude of nutters.  The ley-line fuss seems to have died down at present.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on December 06, 2010, 08:15 AM
Just finished:  The Old Straight Track by Alfred Watkins.
  The original ley-line book, that was later to inspire a multitude of nutters.  The ley-line fuss seems to have died down at present.

true havent heard anything about leylines in a while -
so what was your opinion of that one ?
just had a quick look in Amazon, I see it's from the 1920's
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on December 06, 2010, 08:55 AM
Just finishing up "23 Problems in Systems Neuroscience (http://www.amazon.com/23-Problems-Systems-Neuroscience-Computational/dp/0195148223)":
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I had really high hopes for it from the table of contents -- looked like it was going to be a collection of high-level chapters laying out fundamental questions that as of yet are unsolved.. But the chapters almost all seemed to fall short.  I wouldn't really recommend it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on December 06, 2010, 02:29 PM
true havent heard anything about leylines in a while -
so what was your opinion of that one ?
just had a quick look in Amazon, I see it's from the 1920's

You're right about the date.  I read a facsimile of the 1925 edition, complete with original typewriter-like typeface.  I think he got the ley-line idea first, then tended to co-opt any evidence he could find to substantiate it.  But that's a bit "superior," as I haven't gone ley hunting myself.  I think I'd like to see a reasoned critical review with statistical analysis of the chances of finding "x" number of significant items on a straight line.  Watkins probably didn't have much in the way of statistical methods available to him back then, and I imagine that much of the archaeological and other evidence he quotes has been updated as well.  But, he wasn't himself an idiot; he was the inventor of the Watkins Bee Meter, and early photographic exposure meter, and had his own photographic business.  He doesn't go in for soggy mysticism of the "earth energies" variety either.  He comes over to me, lacking qualifications for sensible criticism myself, as having been carried away by his idea.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Ampa on December 06, 2010, 02:44 PM
Just read and thoroughly enjoyed...

How To Be Free by Tom Hodgkinson.
The Idler Shop (http://idler.co.uk/books/how-to-be-free) | Amazon.co.uk (http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-be-Free-Tom-Hodgkinson/dp/0241143217)

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It made the middle ages sound very appealing compared to our current Western capitalist culture, and I'd like to read more about the European guilds system. Any one know a good book on the subject?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on December 06, 2010, 02:52 PM
He doesn't go in for soggy mysticism of the "earth energies" variety either.  He comes over to me, lacking qualifications for sensible criticism myself, as having been carried away by his idea.

I know nothing about them myself. There could well be a scientific/archaeological basis for it, but once, eh, enthusuaists start talking about 'spiritual' powers related to some site or concept, the archaeologists/scientists tend to avoid the whole thing like the plague. Which means it's nearly impossible to find out what's really the case. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line) is disputed and doesnt really have very much info, although it is interesting to read what the dowsers have to say about it [In the 1930s, two British dowsers...]- I grew up in a town in the west of Ireland, but in the surrounding countryside dowsers were used to find a location for a well. From what I heard they would even be able to tell how deep you'd have to go. So I have great respect for dowsers...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 06, 2010, 03:57 PM
It made the middle ages sound very appealing compared to our current Western capitalist culture, and I'd like to read more about the European guilds system. Any one know a good book on the subject?

If you don't mind something that focuses primarily on the economic ramifications of the guild system, Wage Labor and Guilds in Medieval Europe by Steven Epstein is a good read. We used it in an economics course I took a few years ago, and I thought it was a pretty fascinating book.

Amazon sells it for a lot less than the college bookstore wanted for it!  :'(  Link here (http://www.amazon.com/Wage-Labor-Guilds-Medieval-Europe/dp/0807844985/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291670822&sr=1-2).

For excellent general introductions to medieval lifestyles try the "Daily Life" books by Frances & Joseph Gies. There are three titles in the series:


I just discovered there's also a 400-page omnibus edition (if you want all three in a single volume :mrgreen:) called: Daily Life in Medieval Times: A Vivid, Detailed Account of Birth, Marriage and Death; Food, Clothing and Housing; Love and Labor in the Middle Ages

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Amazon carries all of these too. But your local bookstore and library usually have copies since this is an extremely popular series. You can always check it out at those places before you buy.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on December 06, 2010, 04:24 PM
thanks for the recommendation of the Daily Life book, i think i'm going to pick that up -- looks cool.
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Post by: rjbull on December 12, 2010, 03:38 PM
I know nothing about them myself. There could well be a scientific/archaeological basis for it, but once, eh, enthusuaists start talking about 'spiritual' powers related to some site or concept, the archaeologists/scientists tend to avoid the whole thing like the plague.

Quite so, very sensible of them.  But...  there's a book called The Experience of Landscape by Jay Appleton (Wiley, revised edition 1996, ISBN 0-471-96235-X).  It starts from the question, "What do we like about landscape and why do we like it?"  I've never managed to finish the book, but have heard others who have speak of it.  The thesis appears to be that since humans evolved as hunter-gatherers, the landscape is very much the arena in which life happens.  The ideal landscape consists of a location where one can look out for potential prey and for potential predators, with somewhere close by to rapidly retreat to in the case of the latter.  He calls this idea Prospect-Refuge-Hazard theory.  No way to prove this, but it seems to make sense, and would indicate a deep and emotional relationship with the landscape would be likely.  That might be the stimulus for 'spirituality' notions.

Which means it's nearly impossible to find out what's really the case. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line) is disputed and doesnt really have very much info, although it is interesting to read what the dowsers have to say about it [In the 1930s, two British dowsers...]- I grew up in a town in the west of Ireland, but in the surrounding countryside dowsers were used to find a location for a well. From what I heard they would even be able to tell how deep you'd have to go. So I have great respect for dowsers...

The Wikipedia article does justice to Watkins, as far as I read him; it quotes him from other sources than The Old Straight Track.

I haven't heard much about dowsing recently, but it works well enough to be at least semi-respectable.  My former boss is a Ph.D and a very good scientist and technologist; he found it worked for him on at least one occasion.  It's been mentioned in New Scientist (http://www.newscientist.com/) magazine, albeit not (I think) for a long time.  The last speculation I remember seeing was that dowsing is a naturally-occurring form of nuclear magnetic resonance in the brain.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 13, 2010, 03:56 PM
Just finished reading Bad Monkeys by Matt Ruff (who also wrote Fool on the Hill, which is one of my absolute favorite novels. :Thmbsup:)

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Bad Monkeys is dark, disturbing, and quasi sci-fi. It deals with Ms. Jane Charlotte, operative for The Department for the Final Disposition of Irredeemable Persons, a shadowy and elusive organization which investigates, judges, and removes from society those deemed beyond hope of redemption. Jane is one of their hatchet men.

The story unfolds as a series of flashbacks and interviews with her prison psychologist. Jane has been arrested for murder. The government is trying to determine if she is criminally insane since nobody seems to believe her truly weird tale of how she was recruited and became part of what she insists is an actual government agency.

As her interviews progress, her story begins to get stranger and stranger. And more and more believable...


Disturbing book. And a very relevant moral tale in this era of "rendition," extrajudicial government enforcement actions, secret prisons, and wars on terror.

 8)






Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on December 13, 2010, 03:59 PM
sounds interesting..
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 14, 2010, 11:49 AM
Sounds like my kind of novel.  I've added it to my wish list.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 14, 2010, 01:20 PM
You can read the first few pages up on Amazon. It will give you and idea of Ruff's writing style.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: PeterRossy on December 17, 2010, 07:04 AM
I am re-reading «Cryptonomicon» by Neal Stephenson. Great book, I want to recommend it to coders especially.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: PeterRossy on December 17, 2010, 07:37 AM
The last book I read was a Finansist by Theodor Driser...it's about a guy who have become a millionarie...it's very inspirational
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 18, 2010, 05:59 PM
I have Crytonomicon, but haven't read it yet.  Will have to give it a go.

Also, just finished an oldie but a goodie:  a scifi novel by Gerard Klein entitled "Starmaster's Gambit."
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on December 18, 2010, 09:12 PM
I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen series by Steven Erikson.  Good stuff if you're a fantasy reader like me.  Really deep, take-no-prisoners type of style (similar to George R. R. Martin).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malazan_book_of_the_fallen
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: AndyM on December 18, 2010, 09:57 PM
...Malazan Book of the Fallen series by Steven Erikson.


Not quite like anything else I've ever read.  A lot of pages.  Wish there were more...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 19, 2010, 07:29 AM
I enjoyed George R.R. Martin's Fire & Ice novels: the first three more than the rest.  Haven't read his other works.  Read the first two Book of the Fallen novels.  My dad's really gotten into them.  He ordered the whole set off eBay ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on December 19, 2010, 10:42 AM
When it comes to fantasy, there aren't too many series that I don't enjoy.   :D  kyrathaba (and any other Martin fans), did you know that HBO are making a series based on the Song of Ice and Fire books called Game of Thrones?  It looks completely badass.

http://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/index.html
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on December 19, 2010, 01:22 PM
I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen series by Steven Erikson.  Good stuff if you're a fantasy reader like me.  Really deep, take-no-prisoners type of style

He absolutely does not hold your hand.  You have to work everything out.

More stuff at the Malazan Empire (http://malazanempire.com/site/index.php) fan site.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on December 19, 2010, 01:48 PM
When it comes to fantasy, there aren't too many series that I don't enjoy.

Then, if you haven't already, you might try Mike Scott Rohan (http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mike.scott.rohan/)'s Winter of the World trilogy - don't bother with the sequels after Castle of the Winds - Sarah Ash (http://www.sarah-ash.com/)'s Tears of Artamon series, China Miéville (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/m/china-mieville/)'s new weird New Crobuzon series that starts with Perdido Street Station, P.C. Hodgell (http://www.pchodgell.com/site/)'s Kencyrath series, Kate Elliott (http://www.kateelliott.com/)'s Crown of Stars seven-book sequence, and... is that enough to be going on with?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on December 19, 2010, 02:34 PM
I've added them all to my list.  Thanks.  =]
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: zridling on December 19, 2010, 09:44 PM
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Inflated: How Money and Debt Built the American Dream (http://www.amazon.com/Inflated-Money-Built-American-Dream/dp/0470875143/)

When it comes to matters of money, most Americans tend to view themselves as reasonably prudent people, reflecting the puritan roots of their European ancestors. Yet, at the same time, Americans also seem to feel entitled to a lifestyle, individually and nationally, that is well above the rest of the world's, and well beyond our current means. Inflated: How Money and Debt Built the American Dream explores more than two hundred years of American politics and monetary policy to examine this conflict. In doing so, it asks whether the current understanding of the American Dream, one of entitlement, is so ingrained that to expect Americans willingly to live in a "deflated" world is unrealistic. This book simply and directly tells the story of inflation and public debt as enduring, and perhaps even endearing, features of American life.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 22, 2010, 07:51 AM
Good info.  Thanks.  Sparks a memory.  I'll try to look into it and post.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 22, 2010, 07:54 AM
kyrathaba (and any other Martin fans), did you know that HBO are making a series based on the Song of Ice and Fire books called Game of Thrones? It looks completely badass.

Yep, I've watched some trailers on YouTube.  There's also a roleplaying game based upon it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1GIcLvptR0&playnext=1&list=PLB63D9079D6F43D66&index=95).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on January 01, 2011, 10:46 PM
Just finished "Dynamic Coordination in the Brain (http://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-Coordination-Brain-Neurons-Strüngmann/dp/0262014718)" by Malsburg, Phillips, and Singer:
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Big disappointment -- expected much better.  Looks like it was one of those workshop meetings that got turned into a book and no one tried very hard on their chapters.  I happen to think understanding the role of time and dynamics is the big missing piece in understanding computational underpinnings of the brain, and I was hoping this book would be a meaningful contribution to the field.  Wasn't.

I'd recommend Scott Kelso's older "Dynamic Patterns:The Self-Organization of Brain and Behavior" (http://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-Patterns-Self-Organization-Behavior-Adaptive/dp/0262611317) book way over this one.

Next up is Edmund Rolls' massive "Memory, Attention, and Decision-Making: A unifying computational neuroscience approach (http://www.amazon.com/Memory-Attention-Decision-Making-computational-neuroscience)".
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Crush on January 02, 2011, 06:01 AM
I started reading Perry Rhodan (http://www.weltbild.de/1/pprod.img/page.html?h=91e17eca77&lm=20101027154639&trbid=401180&zoom=1&b=159616&js=false). All of the inventors are dead now but they personally signed this special exemplar. It´s so huge I think I´ll only read a few of them or at least the first big book.
It´s the biggest and oldest SF-Story of the world - written a very long time before Star Wars or Star Trek came up with thousands of releases. It´s more technical than all others showing up with 3D-pictures on the silver books, detailed UFO-construction paintings and deep descriptions of top notch high physics phenomena. This is written technology - others are only story. Very few of them have been translated to english.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on January 02, 2011, 09:47 AM
About to finish "By the Light of the Moon", which will be my 19th Dean Koontz novel.  After that, I switch from paperback to my Kindle, where I was able to obtain a $4.99 eCopy of O'Reilly's "C# 3.0 Design Patterns", by Judith Bishop.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on January 02, 2011, 10:24 AM
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on January 03, 2011, 06:01 PM
Just downloaded "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" to my Kindle!  OooOooOoohh, excited.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on January 03, 2011, 10:42 PM
Just downloaded "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" to my Kindle!  OooOooOoohh, excited.

You won't be sorry - all three books left me wanting more (and hoping that Steig Larsson's estate gets sorted out soon so that whatever nuggets that remain unpublished WILL be published (from what I understand, there is one more book, about 80% finished, along with outlines for 6 more)!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wilsonch on January 04, 2011, 08:43 AM
Just finished Lost Languages: The Enigma of the World's Undeciphered Scripts by Andrew Robinson. Hardcopy.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on January 04, 2011, 01:58 PM
The Girl Who Played With Fire by Stieg Larsson, 2nd of the Millenium trilogy.  He sure keeps you turning pages...

And I had to keep turning them until I'd finished.  You can guess why I didn't log on yesterday!  :)  Met someone who stayed up until 5:00 am just to finish it!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on January 04, 2011, 09:15 PM
Before I started the Malazan series, the last series I finished was Brent Weeks' Night Angel Trilogy.  Well written and engaging.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Angel_Trilogy
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: erikts on January 05, 2011, 12:19 AM
Working With You is Killing Me: Freeing Yourself from Emotional Traps at Work
Katherine Crowley and Katherine Crowley Page
[ review (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/books/nonfiction/reviews/article_1148345.php/Book_Review_Working_with_You_is_Killing_Me_Freeing_Yourself_from_Emotional_Traps_at_Work_by_Katherine_Crowley_and_Kathi_Elster) ]
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on January 07, 2011, 09:15 AM
I've finished the first two chapters of Daniel Schuller's "C# Game Programming for Serious Game Creation".  Quite technical, so far, but I suppose it has to be, given the difficult subject matter.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on January 07, 2011, 10:57 AM
Just downloaded "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" to my Kindle!  OooOooOoohh, excited.

You won't be sorry - all three books left me wanting more (and hoping that Steig Larsson's estate gets sorted out soon so that whatever nuggets that remain unpublished WILL be published (from what I understand, there is one more book, about 80% finished, along with outlines for 6 more)!

EDIT/ I didnt mean to post this to knock his books - it was the psychological stuff I found interesting.

A review in the New Yorker
Man of Mystery
Why do people love Stieg Larsson’s novels?
by Joan Acocella January 10, 2011 (http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2011/01/10/110110crat_atlarge_acocella?currentPage=all)

Very critical initially* (or should I say superficially? - critical of the writing & translation) but also a very interesting indepth analysis


*EDIT/ if you're a fan you could always skip to (roughly) the second half for the psychological analysis....
EDIT/ I didnt mean to post this to knock his books - it was the psychological stuff I found interesting.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on January 07, 2011, 02:30 PM
Story, by Robert McKee.  The same one that is prominently featured in the film "Adaptation".

Great way to understand what makes stories good or bad.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on January 07, 2011, 03:44 PM
Re: Story by Robert McKee

Great recommendation SB. :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:

What a book! One of those deep reads. High information density too. McKee packs a huge amount of thought into a small number of pages. Best sampled in chunks with adequate time to really think about what's being said and to fully grok all the nuances.

Story is also one of those rare books that grows with you. I first read it about 5 years ago. I still come back to reread sections (or the whole thing) from time to time and discover things I either missed or didn't fully appreciate on previos reads.

If you're really serious about becoming a writer (especially a movie scriptwriter) give this book a go!
 8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on January 07, 2011, 03:50 PM
Ha!  I just KNEW you had read that book.  Seriously, I was like 99.5% sure.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on January 07, 2011, 05:37 PM
A review in the New Yorker
Man of Mystery
Why do people love Stieg Larsson’s novels?
by Joan Acocella January 10, 2011 (http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2011/01/10/110110crat_atlarge_acocella?currentPage=all)

Very critical initially* (or should I say superficially? - critical of the writing & translation) but also a very interesting indepth analysis

Hmmm...  I'm glad I'm just a reader, not a critic!

For another up-to-the-minute, computers and Internet included (if not to Salander's level) gripping and frequently violent series, try Michael Marshall (http://www.michaelmarshallsmith.com/booksfold/marshfold/marsh.html)'s trilogy The Straw Men, The Lonley Dead (UK title) / The Upright Man (US title), and Blood of Angels.

Current book in progress: The Neverending Story by Michael Ende.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on January 08, 2011, 03:30 AM
A review in the New Yorker
Man of Mystery
Why do people love Stieg Larsson’s novels?
by Joan Acocella January 10, 2011 (http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2011/01/10/110110crat_atlarge_acocella?currentPage=all)

Very critical initially* (or should I say superficially? - critical of the writing & translation) but also a very interesting indepth analysis

Hmmm...  I'm glad I'm just a reader, not a critic!

Yeah, I didnt mean to post it to knock his books - it was the psychological stuff I found interesting.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on January 08, 2011, 08:35 AM
I'm 70% of the way through the first of his books.  Pretty good reading, I must say.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on January 09, 2011, 09:57 AM
Hmmm...  I'm glad I'm just a reader, not a critic!

Yeah, I didnt mean to post it to knock his books - it was the psychological stuff I found interesting.

I didn't think you did  :)  The critic seems to get paid to pull things apart and put people down.  One of the first things she said was that Larsson was left-wing.  I wonder if that coloured her American view too strongly and she went into knee-jerk attack mode.  Rather the same as the uneasiness the establishment had at publishing Michael de Larrabeiti's Borribles trilolgy with its viciously anti-establishment message, see e.g. his obituary in The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/michael-de-larrabeiti-creator-of-the-borribles-827657.html).  Wikipedia page here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borribles)

Having said that, I wondered about various aspects of Larsson's books (the first two, haven't read the third yet).  I can't quite work out just why they're so compulsively readable, but they certainly are.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on January 11, 2011, 02:35 PM
I finished "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo".  Overall, I'd give the book 4.5/5.0 stars.  Well worth the read.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on January 11, 2011, 02:44 PM
Enough fiction, let's get some tech books! :p

Currently digging through Jon Skeet's C# in Depth, 2nd edition (http://www.amazon.co.uk/C-Depth-Jon-Skeet/dp/1935182471/), which I'm quite liking so far - getting to page 201 (the section about C# 2 iterator blocks) has taken two days. His writing style and tastefully applied humor works pretty well for me. It hasn't provided me with much new knowledge yet, but there's been some good "oooh, I see" moments, and Jon provides some nice insights along the way.

And I expect a fair amount of new knowledge when reaching the C# 3 and 4 parts; I've used a decent bit of LINQ here and there, but mostly regarded it as a black box of magic. Jon is the kind of guy who really likes playing with language features, and he's even done a blog series on Reimplementing LINQ to Objects (http://msmvps.com/blogs/jon_skeet/archive/2010/09/03/reimplementing-linq-to-objects-part-1-introduction.aspx).

PS: for those unfamiliar with Amazon's URL structure, the 10-digit number in the URL is the book's ISBN-10 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number), not a referral link.
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Post by: KynloStephen66515 on January 12, 2011, 09:39 AM
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In British military intelligence, deniable operations is the most dangerous tightrope you can walk. Ex-SAS man, Nick Stone, has no choice in the matter. He may be tough, resourceful, ruthless, highly trained, but he still must do what his masters want, whatever that might be.

Sarah Greenwood is beautiful, steel-willed, intelligent, cunning - the only woman Stone has ever let under his guard. And now he's been sent to hunt her down...

As the pair are pursued through the backwoods of the American South, Stone's mission becomes a deadly game of cat and mouse, and a journey to the heart of a terrifying conspiracy to which only Sarah holds the key. And as the tension builds to breaking point, the two are led to a confrontation that echoes our worst nightmares.

Only about 4 pages into it, but as always, Andy starts with some good humour, which is always fun, and grips you into the story as much as all his other books :)

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: KynloStephen66515 on January 15, 2011, 03:51 PM
Well, I now feel like an abused puppy...

The book was pretty awesome, but it felt like he got bored towards the end and tried to wrap it all up in 4 pages for no apparent reason.

Nice plot turn but felt a little rushed in places.

Being fiction, and going off his own memory, I guess it would be hard to recall every single event, but he managed to get 300+ pages out of it, so im sure he could have made the ending feel you suddenly got shot in the eye  :huh:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on January 15, 2011, 09:09 PM
Being fiction, and going off his own memory, I guess it would be hard to recall every single event...

Do you mean it's fiction or non-fiction? Or is it a fictionalization of real events? I read Andy McNabb's first couple of books and enjoyed them, but never got the impression that they were factual.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: KynloStephen66515 on January 16, 2011, 09:37 AM
Being fiction, and going off his own memory, I guess it would be hard to recall every single event...

Do you mean it's fiction or non-fiction? Or is it a fictionalization of real events? I read Andy McNabb's first couple of books and enjoyed them, but never got the impression that they were factual.

Well, according to him, everything in the book actually happened, so i am somewhat inclined to believe him, although some of the stuff in the book makes you wonder whether he would be allowed to publish under the Secrets Act.

Who knows  :huh:

And yeah, I meant non-fiction...always get that the wrong way around (non-fiction being based on actual events)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on January 16, 2011, 01:38 PM
Just finished "Forbidden Knowledge", the second in Stephen R. Donaldson's 5-book "Gap" series.  Pretty entertaining.  Now reading Book III: "A Dark and Hungry God Arises".
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on January 17, 2011, 07:52 AM
Being fiction, and going off his own memory, I guess it would be hard to recall every single event...

Do you mean it's fiction or non-fiction? Or is it a fictionalization of real events? I read Andy McNabb's first couple of books and enjoyed them, but never got the impression that they were factual.

Well, according to him, everything in the book actually happened, so i am somewhat inclined to believe him, although some of the stuff in the book makes you wonder whether he would be allowed to publish under the Secrets Act.

Who knows  :huh:

And yeah, I meant non-fiction...always get that the wrong way around (non-fiction being based on actual events)

Heh, heh - no worries! I still get "secular" and "non-secular" backwards (but don't often have occasion to use either in any context, mind you).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on January 17, 2011, 04:16 PM
About half way through The Art of 3-D Computer Animation and Effects, 4th Edition, 2009 (http://www.amazon.com/Art-3D-Computer-Animation-Effects/dp/0470084901/ref=sr_ob_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295301140&sr=8-1) by Isaac Victor Kaplow.

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This is the update to his previous The Art of 3-D : Computer Animation and Imaging, 2nd Edition, 2000 and The Art of 3-D Computer Animation and Imaging (Design & Graphic Design), 1996  both of which I've read and own.
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Very good introduction to the theory and techniques behind digital composition. Not too much in the way of how-tos for specific software or platforms. This book is more about the "theory of cooking" and "understanding the ingredients" than it is a cookbook. If you want step-by-step instructions for individual CGI apps, you'll have to go elsewhere. However, if you want to understand how all those complex CGI programs actually work, you'd do well to start with this book.

Well written, very understandable, and nicely illustrated. In many respects, you can find almost as much inspiration as information in this book. This edition joins its elder siblings in my main bookcase.

If you're interested in CGI and animation - and you want to understand what you're being told (or just stop bluffing about it to other people) give this book a read.

Note: since this is the 4th edition, I must have missed one somewhere along the line. But if so, Amazon doesn't list it. :huh:

It's amazing how much has changed for CGI since 1996. And even more amazing - sometimes how little.  ;D 8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on January 17, 2011, 04:34 PM
nice one, 40hz.  I want to read, but I have to resist.  I need to finish my work!!  I've always wondered how they get it done...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on January 18, 2011, 01:29 AM
Currently reading Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series. I'm currently on the second book (first book of the Great War Trilogy) American Front. It's an alternate history series that starts with the Confederacy winning the American Civil War and seceeding from the Union resulting in an ongoing power struggle in North America. I'm about a third of the way through the American Front which sees the USA allied with Germany and the CSA with Britain and France in the First World War...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on January 25, 2011, 10:46 PM
I've read a bunch of books on web frameworks cover to cover in last week or twoy:


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Tuxman on January 27, 2011, 10:52 AM
I'm done now with the German edition of that one:

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"Delete" looks at the surprising phenomenon of perfect remembering in the digital age, and reveals why we must reintroduce our capacity to forget. Digital technology empowers us as never before, yet it has unforeseen consequences as well. Potentially humiliating content on Facebook is enshrined in cyberspace for future employers to see. Google remembers everything we've searched for and when. The digital realm remembers what is sometimes better forgotten, and this has profound implications for us all. In "Delete", Viktor Mayer-Schonberger traces the important role that forgetting has played throughout human history, from the ability to make sound decisions unencumbered by the past to the possibility of second chances. The written word made it possible for humans to remember across generations and time, yet now digital technology and global networks are overriding our natural ability to forget - the past is ever present, ready to be called up at the click of a mouse. Mayer-Schonberger examines the technology that's facilitating the end of forgetting - digitization, cheap storage and easy retrieval, global access, and increasingly powerful software - and describes the dangers of everlasting digital memory, whether it's outdated information taken out of context or compromising photos the Web won't let us forget. He explains why information privacy rights and other fixes can't help us, and proposes an ingeniously simple solution - expiration dates on information - that may. "Delete" is an eye-opening book that will help us remember how to forget in the digital age.

 :)
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Post by: J-Mac on January 29, 2011, 10:46 PM
"Learned Pigs and Fireproof Women" by Ricky Jay.

Jim

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Post by: kyrathaba on April 06, 2011, 08:58 PM
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The most recent trilogy I've enjoyed has been the one that begins with "The Blade Itself" (http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Itself-First-Law-Book/dp/159102594X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302141317&sr=1-1).  Highly recommended!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on April 06, 2011, 11:14 PM
Just finished The Power Formula for LinkedIn Success by Wayne Breitbarth.

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Probably the best book I've seen for LinkedIn. Down to earth and very practical advice for using what is becoming the way to promote and manage your career if you're working (or planning on working) for someone.

And since most of us (including those who own their own businesses) work for someone, it's well worth the short time it takes to read this little book. Especially in these economically unstable times where all that separates many people from foreclosure is three paychecks.

I used to be a little skeptical of LinkedIn. I had seen far too many "professional networking opportunities" serve as nothing but an excuse for somebody to try and sell you something. And just as many networking "events" or "organizations" eventually degenerate into little more than an excuse to go out drinking and shoot the breeze. But I had a buddy, who was one of the early adopters, sing its praises. And he's a pretty savvy guy with as much tolerance for pointless conversation and alcohol-fueled socializing as I have. So on his recommendation I joined up, but neglected to stay on top of it. And I now suspect that was very much to my detriment. Because I'm just now discovering how useful a resource LinkedIn can be. And I've also started seeing some of its advertised benefits now that I'm actually using it.

So if you're just starting out as a recent college grad, you'll definitely want to look into LinkedIn. Ditto if you're looking to switch jobs.

An acquaintance of mine who handles corporate recruiting (i.e. a 'headhunter') told me that she's seeing the best and most interesting positions being offered/found through LinkedIn. As she put it: Nowadays pretty much any position you'd want to get will show up on LinkedIn first. Many of the big companies are doing the bulk of their recruiting and matchmaking through it. A few now exclusively go through LinkedIn for that purpose. If you want to do business with those companies, you'd better be a member.

Same goes for if you're looking to hire talent. Some of the best and brightest hang out their shingle on LinkedIn - and sometimes no place else.

If you do read the book, check out Chapter 19, which offers a roadmap for action that takes approximately two hours a week to do, and six weeks to complete.

Less than $12 from Amazon. Read it.

Note: If you're out of work - or totally broke - go sneak a skim-through in one of B&N's coffee shops. (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/WHISTLE.GIF) It's only 176 very fast-reading pages.

Just don't blow it and drop $4 on their overpriced coffee if you're trying to save money. ;)

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on April 21, 2011, 09:28 PM
Just finished Book I of the KingKiller trilogy, The Name of the Wind.

If this is any indication of the quality of the next two books, I'll not be getting much sleep anytime soon!

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on April 21, 2011, 10:40 PM
Just finished Book I of the KingKiller trilogy, The Name of the Wind.

I'm about two-thirds of the way through it and loving it.  Great read so far.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cthorpe on April 22, 2011, 12:13 AM
My most recent books have been:

The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Stevenson (reread)
Huckleberry Finn - Twain (reread)
Flowers for Algernon - Keyes
The Stranger - Camus (reread)
and
Toddler 411



I feel rather out of place in this thread...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on April 22, 2011, 07:29 AM
My most recent books have been:

The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Stevenson (reread)
Huckleberry Finn - Twain (reread)
Flowers for Algernon - Keyes
The Stranger - Camus (reread)
and
Toddler 411



I feel rather out of place in this thread...

You shouldn't.

A few years ago I sat down and started to reread (or sometime just read) all those books they gave us in High School that I didn't really care about. (I was so much more "into technology" at the time.)

And guess what?

I discovered they were all very good books. OK, maybe I wasn't too crazy about Wuthering Heights, but that was the sole exception.

Since books can't change (unless you're living in Ocenia under Ingsoc) the only thing that could have was me.

So I guess I just needed to mature enough - and broaden my interests enough - to be open to what these books were about.

Glad I took the time to do it. Because some of these authors (Dickens, Twain, and Melville in particular) are far too good to pass up.

 :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on April 22, 2011, 09:28 AM
My most recent books have been:

The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Stevenson (reread)
Huckleberry Finn - Twain (reread)
Flowers for Algernon - Keyes
The Stranger - Camus (reread)
and
Toddler 411



I feel rather out of place in this thread...

You shouldn't.

A few years ago I sat down and started to reread (or sometime just read) all those books they gave us in High School that I didn't really care about. (I was so much more "into technology" at the time.)

And guess what?

I discovered they were all very good books. OK, maybe I wasn't too crazy about Wuthering Heights, but that was the sole exception.

Since books can't change (unless you're living in Ocenia under Ingsoc) the only thing that could have was me.

So I guess I just needed to mature enough - and broaden my interests enough - to be open to what these books were about.

Glad I took the time to do it. Because some of these authors (Dickens, Twain, and Melville in particular) are far too good to pass up.

 :Thmbsup:


Just recently, I also was thinking about reading my old high school literature class books.  True, it was a chore at the time.  You know, I've never read Catcher in the Rye?!  I still remember...there were two literature classes, and the one I took skipped that book and read something else like Lord of the Flies.  So I have to read Catcher.  Oh!  And what was that story about the guy who had a friend who was like really gifted in certain ways, or something like that?  Shit, that's the worst possible explanation ever!  But I remember one scene: the friends go to a swimming pool, and the guy swims and breaks the record, but nobody other than the friend witnesses it.  Then there was a scene with the guy falling out of a tree and breaking his arm or something.  What was that book?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cthorpe on April 22, 2011, 09:57 AM
Oh!  And what was that story about the guy who had a friend who was like really gifted in certain ways, or something like that?  ****, that's the worst possible explanation ever!  But I remember one scene: the friends go to a swimming pool, and the guy swims and breaks the record, but nobody other than the friend witnesses it.  Then there was a scene with the guy falling out of a tree and breaking his arm or something.  What was that book?

The book you are talking about is called A Separate Peace by John Knowles.  It's a great book.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on April 22, 2011, 12:59 PM
Oh!  And what was that story about the guy who had a friend who was like really gifted in certain ways, or something like that?  ****, that's the worst possible explanation ever!  But I remember one scene: the friends go to a swimming pool, and the guy swims and breaks the record, but nobody other than the friend witnesses it.  Then there was a scene with the guy falling out of a tree and breaking his arm or something.  What was that book?

The book you are talking about is called A Separate Peace by John Knowles.  It's a great book.
There you go!  Yeas, I'm going to reread that.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: iphigenie on April 23, 2011, 07:43 AM
Reading Zoo City, which appeared about 10 times in Locus' 2010 Recommended book lists. http://angryrobotbooks.com/our-authors/laurenbeukes/zoo-city/ It is modern/future urban fantasy in a South African setting

It is certainly unique and intriguing so far, but I am not quite halfway through.

Note: I have bought several books (ebooks) from Angry Robot and it is certainly publishing some very interesting authors and titles if you are into various kinds of speculative fiction
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on May 24, 2011, 02:31 AM
I recently read an essay entitled The Law (http://www.amazon.com/Frederic-Bastiat/e/B000APR1CK/) by Frederic Bastiat. It's in the public domain so you should be able to find it for free or cheap somewhere. In fact it's even part of a collection of Bastiat's Essays on Political Economy (http://librivox.org/essays-on-political-economy-by-frederic-bastiat/) on Librivox.org if you prefer an Audiobook edition. The basic premise of the essay is to explain the purpose of governmentmental law. A few select quotes:

"If every person has the right to defend--even by force-- his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly. Thus the principle of collective right--its reason for existing, its lawfulness--is based on individual right."

He explains an idea of how government sometimes is corrupted from its natural and rightful purpose to protect life, liberty, and property to denying those very things from some people using a system he calls Legal Plunder:

"When a portion of wealth is transferred from the person who owns it--without his consent and without compensation, and whether by force or by fraud--to anyone who does not own it, then I say that property is violated; that an act of plunder is committed...
"How is the legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime..."

It's a relatively short read (perhaps 50 pages?) compared to what I'd consider a "normal" length (novel-sized) book, as I suppose essays typically are. But I found the concepts in it enlightening I, for one, agreed with Bastiat.



Additionally I just read another related book entitled The Proper Role of Government (http://www.amazon.com/PROPER-ROLE-IMPROPER-GOVERNMENT/dp/B003ATB8KY/) (which appears to also be released under the title The Proper Role & Improper Role of Government) by Ezra Taft Benson.

This one is even shorter than The Law; the edition I read was only 32 pages. In this pamphlet(?) Benson talks of the principles on which government should be formed, the basic function of government, the source of governmental power, the proper role and functions of government, things the government should not do, the basic error of Marxism, the real cause of American prosperity, as well as consequences for disregarding the principles, and suggestions on how to return to basic concepts and principles in government. Benson even quotes Bastiat's The Law a number of times throughout the book. A couple select quotes from the book:

"This means, then, that the proper function of government is limited only to those spheres of activity within which the individual citizen has the right to act. By deriving its just powers from the governed, government becomes primarily a mechanism for defense against bodily harm, theft and involuntary servitude. It cannot claim the power to redistribute the wealth or force reluctant citizens to perform acts of charity against their will. Government is created by man. No man possesses such power to delegate. The creature cannot exceed the creator."

"There is one simple test. Do I as an individual have a right to use force upon my neighbor to accomplish this goal? If I do have such a right, then I may delegate that power to my government to exercise on my behalf. If I do not have that right as an individual, then I cannot delegate it to government, and I cannot ask my government to perform the act for me."


And while I'm on the topic, I'm about to get started on The Five Thousand Year Leap (http://www.amazon.com/5000-Year-Leap-Original-Authorized/dp/0880801484/) by W. Cleon Skousen. The Amazon page describes it as follows:

In The 5000 Year Leap: A Miracle That Changed the World, Discover the 28 Principles of Freedom our Founding Fathers said must be understood and perpetuated by every people who desire peace, prosperity, and freedom. Learn how adherence to these beliefs during the past 200 years has brought about more progress than was made in the previous 5000 years. These 28 Principles include The Genius of Natural Law, Virtuous and Moral Leaders, Equal Rights--Not Equal Things, and Avoiding the Burden of Debt.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 24, 2011, 07:05 AM
Last 2 I've read:

The Wise Man's Fear, by Patrick Rothfuss
Blindsight, by Peter Watts


Currently reading:

Anathem, by Neal Stephenson
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on June 01, 2011, 07:58 AM
I'm about half-way through "Behind Deep Blue (http://www.amazon.com/Behind-Deep-Blue-Building-Computer/dp/0691118183/)", the accidental story of the Deep Blue, the first computer chess machine to get good enough to beat the world's best human chess players.  It's written by the engineer who led the team (Feng-hsiung Hsu).

Although there is a lot of hardware engineering that I don't understand, and very little discussion of AI, which i would have really appreciated, it's still very enjoyable reading and is one of those books that makes you want to go out and tackle an interesting scientific/engineering problem.  Lot's of discussion of the human emotions and misteps behind the race to build the world's best computer chess hardware.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: zridling on June 03, 2011, 02:56 AM
This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly
http://www.amazon.com/This-Time-Different-Centuries-Financial/dp/0691142165/

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Description:
Throughout history, rich and poor countries alike have been lending, borrowing, crashing--and recovering--their way through an extraordinary range of financial crises. Each time, the experts have chimed, "this time is different"--claiming that the old rules of valuation no longer apply and that the new situation bears little similarity to past disasters. With this breakthrough study, leading economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff definitively prove them wrong. Covering sixty-six countries across five continents, This Time Is Different presents a comprehensive look at the varieties of financial crises, and guides us through eight astonishing centuries of government defaults, banking panics, and inflationary spikes--from medieval currency debasements to today's subprime catastrophe. Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff, leading economists whose work has been influential in the policy debate concerning the current financial crisis, provocatively argue that financial combustions are universal rites of passage for emerging and established market nations. The authors draw important lessons from history to show us how much--or how little--we have learned.
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So far it's good (and dense), but after the fact, you can see the financial collapse coming a mile away. My takeaway is that when things are too good, get the hell out of there, be ye government, individual, or foreign creditor!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on June 03, 2011, 08:44 AM
Recently finished Brave New Worlds: Dystopian Stories (http://www.amazon.com/Brave-New-Worlds-Dystopian-Stories/dp/1597802212/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307103987&sr=8-1), an anthology edited by John Joseph Adams.

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YOU ARE BEING WATCHED.

Your every movement is being tracked, your every word recorded. Your spouse may be an informer, your children may be listening at your door, your best friend may be a member of the secret police. You are alone among thousands, among great crowds of the brainwashed, the well-behaved, the loyal. Productivity has never been higher, the media blares, and the army is ever triumphant. One wrong move, one slip-up, and you may find yourself disappeared -- swallowed up by a monstrous bureaucracy, vanished into a shadowy labyrinth of interrogation chambers, show trials, and secret prisons from which no one ever escapes. Welcome to the world of the dystopia, a world of government and society gone horribly, nightmarishly wrong.

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.
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When the government wields its power against its own people, every citizen becomes an enemy of the state.


A nightmarish collection of 33 short stories that posit a not too distant future that's disturbingly not very different from our present world.

All the usual suspects and favorites are here. There's Shirley Jackson's chilling The Lottery LeGuinn's eerie The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas, and Harlan Ellison's brilliant "Repent Harlequin!" Said the Ticktockman. But there's also a number of excellent stories from some of the 'newer' authors such as Neil Gaiman and Cory Doctorow.

My favorites include Red Card by S.L. Gilbow. It's a story that posits an interesting solution to widespread incivility. What if the government issued (at random) special cards which gave the bearer a single use permit to kill any one person, at any time, for any reason - or even no reason at all - with guaranteed full immunity from prosecution? And along with each of these cards came a government issued handgun?

Knowing something like that was out there would probably go a long way towards cutting down on road rage incidents, graffiti sprayers, and rude bank tellers.  ;D

More disturbing by far is Sacrament by Matt Williamson. IMO it's the single most disturbing 11 pages found in the entire collection.

Sacrament is a first person narrative by a future U.S. military interrogator operating in one of those secret  "places without a name" that have made a mockery of everything the United States once stood for.

I'm not squeamish nor given to histrionics. But I must admit this one story left me feeling sick (as in physically ill) by the time I was finished with it. IMHO Matt Williamson comes very close to capturing the essence of true evil through the words of one of the darkest and most functionally psychotic characters in the history of fiction. No mean feat for a story this short.

For the curious, a few 'milder' excerpts follow.  
Readers are Strongly Cautioned
Bones are not organs, under the Protocols. I've got that stuck up on the wall in the locker room, the briefing room, big signs, all caps: BONES ARE NOT ORGANS.

That leaves a lot of running room.

***

Before the pinpoints, before Suspensions, we couldn't keep a guy from passing out. Wake him up with ammonia, it's not the same as keeping him alert. Now we've got pinpoint synthetics that allow sustained equilibrium. No fainting, no grogginess, no euphoria. It isn't quite the same as True Awake; Dr. Ghose calls it a simulacrum. It's better than True, in some ways. Ali's awake sans certain defenses. With catheters and drips, we can preserve that balance - not for hours, but weeks, months. Last week I left a Session, went home, played kickball with my son, dinner with my wife, long night's sleep, woke up, breakfast, walked the dog, read the paper, when I come back in Ali's still going from the night before. With pinpoints we don't have to take the Rests, and there's not the same concern about organic damage.

***

In any interrogation, there are multiple pivot points. The first is when Ali discovers he no longer has the power to end his life. Everything before that moment is pre-interrogation, as far as I'm concerned. That's why in the Chair, we keep him ventilated and catheterized. We decide whether and when you can eat, shit, piss, breathe - and we can keep you here as long as we like. And we can. We can keep these guys alive forever.

***

There are some, I know, who'd assume, just based on my family background, that I must be motivated by a desire for revenge. People will believe what they want. But nothing could be farther from the truth. As soon as I sense that a member of my interrogator corps is motivated by revenge - revenge, or a perverse enjoyment of cruelty - I strike him from my team; he's gone.

It's true - it may be true - that a soldier has to hate his enemy, but we aren't soldiers here, contra the official narrative. Here, strange as it may sound, we have to love our enemy...



There was a time when I would have read a story like this and taken it as pure fantasy. But in the wake of some of what we learned went on (and is likely still going on) during this never-ending (by design) War on Terror, I'm not so sure about just where fantasy leaves off and reality begins these days.

Anyway...it's a great book, even if it may keep you awake a few nights wondering just how far down some of these frightful pathways humanity's future will eventually wander.

Recommended! :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 03, 2011, 03:52 PM
Harlan Ellison's brilliant "Repent Harlequin!" Said the Ticktockman.

His "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream" has to be one of the most terrifying and horrifying short stories in all SF.

What if the government issued (at random) special cards which gave the bearer a single use permit to kill any one person

Read another story on a similar theme, long ago: they didn't get cards, but had to go through the prison sentence that would be applied for whatever crime they wanted to commit, before committing it, labelled as "precriminals."
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: zridling on June 03, 2011, 06:05 PM
Recently finished Brave New Worlds: Dystopian Stories (http://www.amazon.com/Brave-New-Worlds-Dystopian-Stories/dp/1597802212/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307103987&sr=8-1), an anthology edited by John Joseph Adams.

Damn, damn, damn, 40hz! I got to have it now.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on June 12, 2011, 03:21 PM
Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire. Edward Gibbon. Classic.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on June 12, 2011, 03:23 PM
Harlan Ellison is a minor deity. However he's just starting to become eclipsed. I Have No Mouth is fading just a little to 1984 and Fahrenheit 451.

Tech is doing just fine when we can use it. It's Government and Corps that are deadly today.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 17, 2011, 05:50 AM
Harlan Ellison is a minor deity. However he's just starting to become eclipsed. I Have No Mouth is fading just a little to 1984 and Fahrenheit 451.

That's a good point, and one I hadn't thought of.  Well put.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 17, 2011, 06:16 AM
Currently reading: a tale etched in blood and hard black pencil by Christopher Brookmyre (http://www.brookmyre.co.uk/), one of his free-standing novels (i.e., not part of a series).

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Finished it now.  I was expecting an exuberantly rude story like his first novel, Quite Ugly One Morning, but this is different.  Lots of schoolboy bad language and scatology, but cleverly constructed and well written.
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Synopsis:

We could tell you about the bodies. We could tell you their names, where they were found, the state they were in. We could tell you about the suspects too, the evidence, the investigators; join a few dots, even throw you a motive. But what would be the point? You’re going to make your own assumptions anyway. After all, you know these people, don’t you? You went to school with them. We all did. Granted, that was twenty years ago, but how much does anybody really change? Exactly. So if you really knew them then, you’ll already have all the answers. If you really knew them then…

Put on your uniform and line up in an orderly fashion for the funniest and most accurate trip back to the classroom you are likely to read, as well as a murder mystery like nothing that has gone before it. Forget the forensics: only once you’ve been through school with this painfully believable cast of characters will you be equipped to work out what really happened decades later. Even then, you’ll probably guess wrong and be made to stand in the corner.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: zridling on June 18, 2011, 05:31 PM
I'm about half-way through "Behind Deep Blue (http://www.amazon.com/Behind-Deep-Blue-Building-Computer/dp/0691118183/)", the accidental story of the Deep Blue, the first computer chess machine to get good enough to beat the world's best human chess players.  It's written by the engineer who led the team (Feng-hsiung Hsu).

After IBM's 100th anniversary last week, this book just got more interesting to me. IBM's ability to adapt over the decades has allowed it survive where most tech companies rise quickly only to flame out.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on July 09, 2011, 09:01 PM
Just finished Neal Stephenson's Anathem.  Whew!  What a read!  I found the pacing a bit slow at some points, but overall it's very good:  intellectually stimulating, and a book that you cannot read on auto-pilot, not if you want to appreciate it. 

Now I've downloaded the Kindle version of K.C. May's first book in The Kinshield Legacy.  At over 600-pages in the paperback edition, I figure I got a steal with a 99 cent download ($1.05 final charge).  Compare that to the $11+ price on Amazon for the paperback.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on August 02, 2011, 09:59 PM
Finished Part I of II of the Kinshield Legacy.  Actually, not bad.  Kinda put me in mind of some of the old Forgotten Realm adventure novels.  Interesting, entertaining, but not too strenuous on the mind.  And better written that I'd anticipated it would be.  Certainly worth more than the 99 cent price.  There's a sequel due out sometime this year.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 02, 2011, 11:42 PM
Just finished rereading Zen Flesh, Zen Bones: A Collection of Zen and Pre-Zen Writings by Paul Reps and Nyogen Senzaki. I try to reread it at least once every few years, both for pleasure and for the new insights it provides.

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Amazon has a pretty good description of what it's about:

With over one million copies sold fifty years after its first printing, Zen Flesh, Zen Bones has inspired countless lives. Hailed as the most profound religious philosophy ever, this far reaching system of aesthetics truly tackles the question: What is Zen?

Zen Flesh, Zen Bones has been sharing wisdom and enlightenment with readers since 1957. An inspirational four-books-in-one volume at your fingertips, this collection of Zen and pre-Zen writings includes: 101 Zen Stories, a collection of tales that recount actual experiences of Chinese and Japanese Zen teachers over a period of more than five centuries; The Gateless Gate, the famous thirteenth century collection of Zen koans; Ten Bulls, a twelfth century commentary on the stages of awareness leading to enlightenment; and Centering, a 4,000 year-old teaching from India that some consider to be the roots of Zen. ..

About the Author

Paul Reps was the author of several books of poems and prose inspired by Zen, including Zen Telegrams.

Nyogen Senzaki, an internationally renowned Buddhist scholar, was a homeless monk studying and wandering the land from monastery to monastery. His wandering eventually brought him to the United States, where he lived for over 50 years.

I first read this book the summer before the start of my freshman year in high school.

My grandmother had a house on Cape Cod that she occasionally rented out during the summer to friends and people with 'good references.'  

In keeping with one of the many traditions of Cape Cod "summer house" residence, her guests often left behind whatever books they read while on vacation. Over the years, my grandmother's house (by the beach rather than "over the meadow and through the woods") acquired a fairly large library of abandoned paperbacks and inexpensive hardcovers that spanned the gamut of reading interests.

Her living room had a wall of bookshelves on either side of a built-in fireplace. When she first bought the house, these shelves mostly held knick-knacks and her antique Sandwich Glass (http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/lacy-sandwich-glass-in-color/) collection. As the years went by, the books gradually crowded out her collectibles, forcing her to finally move them to a locked (to keep out the books!) curio cabinet she bought specifically to house them.

Most of the books were the usual "summer fare" light espionage, murder mystery, 'bodice-ripper', horror, and (rarely) fantasy & sci-fi titles. But hidden within this collection of literary trash were a few dozen real gems such as The Hobbit and Frank L. Baum's complete collection of 14 illustrated Oz Books (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oz_Books) in hardcover.

One day, while rummaging, I found a slim little book wedged between and half hidden by a couple of large craft books. It was Zen Flesh Zen Bones. I started reading it, and got hooked before I got less than ten pages into it. And while it may sound trite, I can honestly say this little book changed the course of my entire life - and set me off on a spiritual adventure that's continued to this day.

Dynamite little book.

Read it! :Thmbsup:

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Cautionary note: This book will change you.

The interesting thing about Zen, and it's way of looking at the world, is that it will change you. And it will do it without your doing anything other than becoming aware of what Zen teaches.

No need for rituals (although there are ritual practices if you want them) or complex rules of ethics (Zen is both ethical and moral - yet it paradoxically professes no creed or moral dogma).

Just read through this book and you'll find your perceptions and beliefs changing in many subtle ways - whether you agree or disagree with what you read. Not that there's anything to really disagree with since Zen doesn't espouse any specific beliefs or doctrines. It simply asks you to become consciously aware of what you think of as yourself and the world around you.

Then, once you've reached that level of awareness - look both inward and beyond. (Note: see the Ten Bulls (http://www.expressionsofspirit.com/10bulls/tenbulls.htm) for one roadmap of how to get there!)

What comes next will both amaze and delight you - even if you'll never be able to actually put into words what you've discovered.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on August 03, 2011, 12:29 AM
40hz, i live for recommendations like this.. thanks, ordering..
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 03, 2011, 01:09 AM
40hz, i live for recommendations like this.. thanks, ordering..

I'm glad to hear that. Hope you enjoy your journey.

As T.S. Elliot so nicely put it:

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.


That pretty much sums up what Zen's all about..

Onward! :Thmbsup:

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P.S. If you're interested in a detailed 'operator's manual' after you finish ZFZB, check out Philip Kapleau's
  Three Pillars of Zen: Teaching, Practice, and Enlightenment.

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This is THE "first book" if you want to start putting some of ZFZB into actual practice.

Unless, of course, you're already half-enlightened.  ;)

In which case Centering (http://www.journeystotantricbliss.com/112-Sutras.html) or The 112 Sutras (included in ZFZB) is all you'll need.  :huh:



Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 30, 2011, 04:04 PM
Just finished:  If The Dead Rise Not  by  Philip Kerr (http://www.pbkerr.com/flash/).
[Meyer Lansky]: "You read much, Bernie?"
  "More and more," I admitted.  "And for me it's like the French Foreign Legion.  I do it to forget.  Myself, I think."
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on August 30, 2011, 05:15 PM
I just finished The Omega Point (http://www.amazon.com/Omega-Point-Whitley-Strieber/dp/B004IK9FOA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314742558&sr=8-1), by Whitley Streiber.  Pretty entertaining.

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Now, I'm reading the Kindle edition of China Mieville's Perdido Street Station (http://www.amazon.com/Perdido-Street-Station-China-Mieville/dp/0345459407/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314742627&sr=1-1):

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on August 30, 2011, 05:29 PM
I'm currently getting through "A Dance with Dragons" -- George R. R. Martin's latest.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on August 30, 2011, 05:34 PM
I've read the first 5 books in that series.  Is the one you're reading #6, skwire?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on August 30, 2011, 05:34 PM
Nope, it's Book 5, I see.  I guess I've only read the first four...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on August 30, 2011, 06:19 PM
Nope, it's Book 5, I see.  I guess I've only read the first four...
Yep, it's the fifth.  Huge book, too...over 1000 pages.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on September 01, 2011, 03:01 PM
Now, I'm reading the Kindle edition of China Mieville's Perdido Street Station
The Ur-text of New Weird?  I also read the sequels, of sorts, The Scar and Iron Council.  I'd rate Perdido Street Station the best, though the others have their moments.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on September 01, 2011, 05:18 PM
I've read "The Scar".  Loved it!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on September 02, 2011, 11:27 AM
Just started to read "An Introduction to Relational Database Theory", by Hugh Darwen.
(Trying to better understand the potential of CHS.)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on October 02, 2011, 12:54 PM
I've recently finished the third and final New Crobuzon novel by China Mieville, Iron Council:

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For anyone who hasn't read these novels, I recommend them highly.  You should probably read them in this order:


Now, I'm reading the first of four novels in The Age of Unreason series by J. Gregory Keyes: Newton's Cannon

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Just as some foods are quite calorie-dense, this book is dense in terms of witty conversational repartee and thought-provoking reflections on life.  Keyes is quite skillful in portraying this alternate history.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on October 03, 2011, 08:43 PM
Finished Newton's Cannon, and have begun the sequel.  I give Newton's Cannon 5 out of 5 stars.  Fantastic!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on October 04, 2011, 04:27 AM
I am currently re-reading The Deming Method, by Mary Walton and Out of the Crisis by W. Edwards Deming.
Great books, both.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tranglos on October 04, 2011, 07:56 AM
Just finished War Is a Lie (http://www.amazon.com/War-Is-A-Lie-ebook/dp/B004BDOVSE/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&m=A2ZHC53Q5OYSS4) by David Swanson, amazing book. Even if you already know much of the facts, seeing them all compiled into a cogent narrative is a big red pill everyone should swallow once.
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Now reading Unequal Protection (http://www.amazon.com/Unequal-Protection-ebook/dp/B003M5HK4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1317732503&sr=1-1) by Thom Hartmann
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Kindle editions all, since I have no more space on my shelves.

And re-reading Howard Zinn's A People's History (http://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States-Present/dp/0060194480/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0), because I'll be translating it into Polish (gulp!). The first time Howard Zinn will be published in Poland. I have a year to complete what looks like a three-year job to me, and this is in addition to my regular work. I don't think I'll be submitting much of anything for NANY 2013 :)

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on October 04, 2011, 08:39 AM
Finished Newton's Cannon, and have begun the sequel.  I give Newton's Cannon 5 out of 5 stars.  Fantastic!

Ah! The Age of Unreason series. Excellent books! (Second book: A Calculus of Angels is even better!) :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:

Interesting in that what they're calling 'alchemy' bears many strong relationships to quantum and particle physics in our world. In the end, does it really matter if it's a subatomic particle, a juxtaposition of dimensions, or an 'angelic' power that makes something work - as long as it works?

Not as crazy as it used to sound.

I remember going to a lecture where 'electron spin' got mentioned. The lecturer took pains to point out that what are called particles aren't really what we think of as physical particles. I remember his saying something like " Spin is a way of thinking about it. It's not like there's actually an object that's spinning down there."
 ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on October 04, 2011, 10:00 AM
I remember going to a lecture where 'electron spin' got mentioned. The lecturer took pains to point out that what are called particles aren't really what we think of as physical particles. I remember his saying something like " Spin is a way of thinking about it. It's not like there's actually an object that's spinning down there."
Man!!  I had an eerily similar experience when I first started learning about spin in my quantum physics class in college.  I remember that it didn't really quite make any sense to me, like in a  special way though.  It was like I thought "this is...kind of...bullshit", but I wasn't sure if I just wasn't understanding it or something.  It was one of those weird, profound moments in my life.  That spin thing was the first time I realized that they created this concept deductively from just the math of it, rather than observing something and then fitting the math to it which is the more usual scientific way of doing stuff.
Spin is a way of thinking about it.
Such a bizarre statement.  Yet here we are with the result of all of this progress and technology.  And at the very core of it, the very most fundamental part...the electron spin...we don't even know what that really is.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on October 04, 2011, 10:52 AM
Just finished War Is a Lie (http://www.amazon.com/War-Is-A-Lie-ebook/dp/B004BDOVSE/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&m=A2ZHC53Q5OYSS4) by David Swanson, amazing book. Even if you already know much of the facts, seeing them all compiled into a cogent narrative is a big red pill everyone should swallow once. 

Now reading Unequal Protection (http://www.amazon.com/Unequal-Protection-ebook/dp/B003M5HK4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1317732503&sr=1-1) by Thom Hartmann
Kindle editions all, since I have no more space on my shelves.

both sound very interesting, especially the corporation one.

good luck with the translation!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tranglos on October 04, 2011, 01:52 PM
both sound very interesting, especially the corporation one.

Chapter 1 in "Unequal Protection" is totally awesome. Hartmann digs into court papers over a hundred years old to trace the origins of the concept that "corporations are persons". The reason this is amazing is that there is zero legal basis for it, and yet it's become so entrenched. Turns out, the whole thing began as a mistake (though likely not what you'd describe as an "honest" one) by a court reporter. The guy wrote a commentary to a ruling which went well beyond what the judge had actually ruled - and that's how it began. As investigative journalism goes, this is first class work by Hartmann.

As for Zinn, he did to me what he had done to thousands other people - made me into an activist. I love Howard Zinn, but "People's History" is a difficult book to translate. I lobbied for its publication for two years, so it's a clear case of "be careful what you wish for because it might come true" :)

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on October 04, 2011, 06:43 PM
Kindle editions all, since I have no more space on my shelves.

I buy Kindle editions for the same reason  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on December 27, 2011, 05:37 PM
Just finished:

White Crow by Marcus Sedgwick (http://www.marcussedgwick.com/Marcus_Sedgwick/Home.html).
Two lives, two centuries apart, living in the same house, obsessed by the same question.
How far would you go to prove there's life after death?
This is fairly billed as a modern gothic thriller.  I'm glad I finished it before Christmas: it's macabre, gruesome, and chilling.  It's also well-written.

Just finished:
Outrage by Arnaldur Indriðason (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/i/arnaldur-indridason/).
If you're a fan of Nordic thrillers, this is (one of) the Icelandic offering(s).  It's a bit different from the earlier ones; Erlendur has gone to the Eastern Fjords, leaving Elinborg to solve the mystery.

Current book in progress:
Snuff by Sir Terry Pratchett (http://www.terrypratchettbooks.com/).
'Nuff said?  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Carol Haynes on December 27, 2011, 05:49 PM
Just finished reading Feynman by Ottaviani & Myrick.

See (UK): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Feynman-Jim-Ottaviani/dp/1596432594
or (US): http://www.amazon.com/Feynman-Jim-Ottaviani/dp/1596432594

I have to say I felt disappointed when I opened the book to find it was one long cartoon strip but having read it I found it absorbing, quite brilliantly written, inspiring and witty.

Pretty sure Richard Feynman would have approved.

Impressed that they managed to get quite a lot of physics into the book.

If you are interested in science and/or Richard Feynman it is definitely worth a read.

If you aren't interested in science it is a good biography of, perhaps, one of the greatest minds of the 20th century - esp. as he simply didn't think or work like other people.

One moving anecdote that I wasn't aware of before reading this book is that of his sister's interest in science at a time when girls weren't expected to do anything other than marry,  cook and drop sprogs. Feynman was horrified by this attitude and encouraged his sister, taking her out one evening to watch the Aurora Borealis. She was captivated and having become a scientist against the odds made a study of the Aurora her life's work - such was her brother's inspiration. Many years later Feynman was asked to get involved in research into the Aurora himself but declined saying that was his sister's field and he didn't want to tread on her toes.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: daddydave on December 28, 2011, 08:17 AM
I remember going to a lecture where 'electron spin' got mentioned. The lecturer took pains to point out that what are called particles aren't really what we think of as physical particles. I remember his saying something like " Spin is a way of thinking about it. It's not like there's actually an object that's spinning down there."
Man!!  I had an eerily similar experience when I first started learning about spin in my quantum physics class in college.  I remember that it didn't really quite make any sense to me, like in a  special way though.  It was like I thought "this is...kind of...bullshit", but I wasn't sure if I just wasn't understanding it or something.  It was one of those weird, profound moments in my life.  That spin thing was the first time I realized that they created this concept deductively from just the math of it, rather than observing something and then fitting the math to it which is the more usual scientific way of doing stuff.
Spin is a way of thinking about it.
Such a bizarre statement.  Yet here we are with the result of all of this progress and technology.  And at the very core of it, the very most fundamental part...the electron spin...we don't even know what that really is.

"Spin is a way of thinking about it." -- Funny how "media spin" has kind of the same meaning: it is adding a layer of interpretation, a way to think about it, a way you want someone else to think about something, for good or for evil. Spin is the scientist's "spin" on what is actually happening.

All I remember from college about electron spin is four letters: s, p, d ,f...shells of probability, something. Didn't have an aha moment, myself.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on December 28, 2011, 09:36 AM
daddydave, yes, those orbitals (s,p,d,f) are fascinating!  I used to love that stuff, it really motivated me to learn more about chemistry and quantum physics, even though the actual work and math exercises (pain in the ass) took the fun out of it.  If I'm not mistaken, those orbital shapes were first described mathematically using the Schroedingers equations, and THEN it was observed physically.  Just amazing stuff.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on December 28, 2011, 01:34 PM
Books! Nom Nom Nom...

Rather than list which books I am "actually reading" I'll list links to my personal library that I recently began typing up online! The chance of me reading any particular one at any particualar day resembles Quantum Field theory!  Here are the first few sets.

http://www.freevoteusa.com/Culture/RawBookList1.html
http://www.freevoteusa.com/Culture/RawBookList2.html
http://www.freevoteusa.com/Culture/RawBookList3.html


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Carol Haynes on December 28, 2011, 01:56 PM
daddydave, yes, those orbitals (s,p,d,f) are fascinating!  I used to love that stuff, it really motivated me to learn more about chemistry and quantum physics, even though the actual work and math exercises (pain in the ass) took the fun out of it.  If I'm not mistaken, those orbital shapes were first described mathematically using the Schroedingers equations, and THEN it was observed physically.  Just amazing stuff.

I love Feynman's comment (loose paraphrase):

"Students don't understand this stuff - hell I don't understand this stuff, anyone who says he does is lying or deluded. It just works - nature knows what she is doing."

If you have time on your hands (and a compelling desire to hit yourself on the head with a brick) try this series of lectures by Feynman:

http://www.vega.org.uk/video/subseries/8

Probably about 5 hours of viewing - very entertaining as well as bewildering.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 31, 2011, 12:08 PM
Here are the books I read in 2011:

    Velocity, by Dean Koontz
    Shadowfires, by Dean Koontz
    One Door Away From Heaven, by Dean Koontz
    Night Chills, by Dean Koontz
    Marker, by Robin Cook
    The Ends of the Circle, by Paul O. Williams
    House of Thunder, by Dean Koontz
    Ring, by Stephen Baxter
    The Shadows of God, by J. Gregory Keyes
    Empire of Unreason, by J. Gregory Keyes
    A Calculus of Angels, by J. Gregory Keyes
    Newton’s Cannon, by J. Gregory Keyes
    Iron Council, by China Mieville
    Printcrime, by Cory Doctorow
    Perdido Street Station, by China Mieville
    The Omega Point, by Whitley Streiber
    Plague Ship, by Andre Norton
    By the Light of the Moon, by Dean Koontz
    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, by Stieg Larsson
    The Gap Cycle: Forbidden Knowledge, by Stephen R. Donaldson
    The Gap Cycle: A Dark And Hungry God Arises, by Stephen R. Donaldson
    The Gap Cycle: The Gap Into Madness, by Stephen R. Donaldson
    The Gap Cycle: This Day All Gods Die, by Stephen R. Donaldson
    Mission Earth: The Invaders Plan, by L. Ron Hubbard
    Foundation, by Isaac Asimov
    The Forge of God, by Greg Bear
    Lucifer’s Hammer, by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle
    Calculating God, by Robert J. Sawyer
    The Blade Itself, by Joe Abercrombie
    Before They Are Hanged, by Joe Abercrombie
    Last Argument of Kings, by Joe Abercrombie
    The Kingkiller Chronicles: The Name of the Wind, by Patrick Rothfuss
    The Kingkiller Chronicles: The Wise Man’s Fear, by Patrick Rothfuss
    Blindsight, by Peter Watts
    Anathem, by Neal Stephenson
    The Kinshield Legacy, by K. C. May
    The Door Through Space, by Marion Zimmer Bradley (c1961)
    Deathworld, by Harry Harrison

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on December 31, 2011, 09:07 PM
@kyrathaba: Crikey! That's some list. Thanks for posting it.
I looked through it - recognized most of those titles. I think I have read roughly 90% of those books/stories. I shall follow up some of them with interest.

I am reading an interesting book at the moment, as I explained in a separate post Re: Thoughts in remembrance of 911 (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=27966.msg273256#msg273256)
But her question - "...why did Hitler hate the Jews so much?" - was what got me reading Mein Kampf. I wanted to be able to understand his rationale for what he did, and explain it to her. I told her that was why I was reading it, and that I had not actually wanted to read it, though I had been steeling myself for the time when I would have to.
I am reading this English translation, here, if you want to take a look: Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (James Murphy translation).pdf (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9rIby-RfgLNMWIxYzA4NWEtNDdlYi00ZmRjLTk2NjgtZTU1MjQ5NzIyNDY5)

I am finding myself quite fascinated by its cold, insidious horror. It seems reasonably lucid, coherent, and well-written.

By the way, I am reading the book with the latest Adobe Acrobat Reader, which has some good highlighting and note-taking features, which I have not used before, and which notes can be saved with the file. So I am saving the file as a separate annotated copy (i.e., together with its notes).
I usually make notes about a book I am studying, but they are often handwritten on paper sheets, and to be doing it this way is the first time for me with AAR. The notes you make are searchable in AAR too. Quite handy. I shall be interested to see if/how they appear in Qiqqa (my document reference management system).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: berry on December 31, 2011, 09:27 PM
Recently finished "Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen" by Christopher McDougall. I found it very educational and entertaining, but I'm a used-to-be runner.

Currently "Steve Jobs" by Walter Isaacson. Also very interesting. Quite a fascinating character.

Finished "A Game of Thrones: A Song of Ice and Fire". Great. Holding off on "A Clash of Kings" lest it spoil the HBO series which so far has done the book proud.

cheers

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on January 01, 2012, 08:51 PM
Crikey! That's some list. Thanks for posting it.
I looked through it - recognized most of those titles. I think I have read roughly 90% of those books/stories. I shall follow up some of them with interest.

@IainB: Thanks! I post books-read as I finish them, here (http://kyrathaba.dcmembers.com/flatpress/index.php/2011/08/08/books-ive-read-and-movies-ive-watched/) on my blog.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on January 02, 2012, 05:56 AM
Recently finished "Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen" by Christopher McDougall. I found it very educational and entertaining, but I'm a used-to-be runner.
Did you ever read "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner" by Alan Sillitoe? I liked that a lot, and it motivated me to start cross-country running when I was about 12 years old. I ran over several of the Welsh hills in Snowdonia National Park (where I lived).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Shades on January 02, 2012, 12:30 PM
@IainB:
The song from Iron Maiden is great too   ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on January 02, 2012, 12:44 PM
George R. R. Martin: Dying of the Light
Good idea, but I didn't like the characters much...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on January 02, 2012, 01:21 PM
Two books by Peter Mayle:

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A Dog's Life (http://www.amazon.com/Dogs-Life-Peter-Mayle/dp/0679762671/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325531451&sr=1-2) - first person narrative from the dog's point of view. The thoughts and reminiscences of a dog of dubious parentage living in Provence. Part Mark Twain, part Boswell, part Jerome K. Jerome. A fun little read if you like this sort of thing. (I do.)

If, like me, you have a logical turn of mind, a self-indulgent nature, and a frequently dormant conscience, there is a certain aspect of human behavior that can put an immense strain on the patience. It's spoken of, always in sanctimonious tones, as moderation - not too much of this, not too much of that, diet and abstinence and restraint, colonic irrigation, cold baths before breakfast, and regular readings of morally uplifting tracts. You must have come across all this and worse if you have any friends from California. Personally, I'm a great believer in the philosophy of live and let live, as long as you keep your proclivities to yourself. Follow the road of denial if that's what you want, and all I'll say is more fool you and spare me the details.

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Chasing Cezanne: A Novel (http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/067978120X/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link) - one of the better art theft caper (with a touch of humor) stories out there. Great characters, fun plot, perfect pacing, elegant locations, pretty women, a bon vivant art forger, and Mayle's trademark urbane and witty verbal exchanges.

Pick one or both. Either is the perfect way to pass and hour or two, snugged up in your favorite chair, while nursing a nice glass of something special on a quiet winter's afternoon with the house completely to yourself...

Ah! Such bliss...

 :)

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on January 02, 2012, 01:46 PM
"Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen"
I heard part of a program on BBC Radio that suggested that the Greeks who rowed triremes might have been the greatest every athletes - and that their like has died out.

Finished "A Game of Thrones: A Song of Ice and Fire". Great.
That's been out for some years, but seems to be getting very popular.  My county library stock has multiple copies, at least one of which has its home at the branch I use, but it's never on the shelf and there's a constant waiting list.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: berry on January 02, 2012, 04:11 PM
"Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen"
I heard part of a program on BBC Radio that suggested that the Greeks who rowed triremes might have been the greatest every athletes - and that their like has died out.

I don't doubt that. The greeks strove for arete in athletic performance. The "Hiddent Tribe, Superathletes" is referring to the Tarahumara Indians of Mexico, noted for their endurance running.

Finished "A Game of Thrones: A Song of Ice and Fire". Great.
That's been out for some years, but seems to be getting very popular.  My county library stock has multiple copies, at least one of which has its home at the branch I use, but it's never on the shelf and there's a constant waiting list.
-rjbull

I believe the surge in popularity is due in large part to the HBO series, which is quite excellent so far.

cheers
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: sword on January 02, 2012, 06:48 PM
Half through, "THINKING, FAST AND SLOW" by DANIEL KAHNEMAN.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on February 28, 2012, 07:53 AM
Just finished the first book in the Mistborn Trilogy by Brandon Sanderson -- Mistborn: The Final Empire (http://www.amazon.com/Mistborn-Final-Empire-Book/dp/0765350386/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1330437131&sr=8-2#reader_0765350386).

I'm most of the way through the second of the three books.  Pretty entertaining!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on February 28, 2012, 08:47 AM
Just finished reading, and then re-reading Dragonfly by Frederic S. Durbin. (Yes. It's that good.)

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If you like books like Ray Bradbury's October Country, The Halloween Tree, or Something Wicked This Way Comes (all highly recommended BTW) you'll enjoy this book too. It's the quintessential Halloween story narrated by a young "10 going on 11" girl named Bridget-Anne - although everybody calls her Dragonfly.

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Dragonfly lives with her Uncle Henry, her town's slightly odd but marvelously wise undertaker:

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With characters and a setup like this, how can you possibly go wrong?

This book ended up being a complete surprise. What at first seems to be your basic supernatural "save the world" adventure ends up being a very unusual and poignant coming of age story. Well worth a read although you might want to save it for Halloween week in order to get yourself immersed in the full atmosphere of the story.

(Note: with thanks to M.M. who recommended it and is my adviser on all things related to YA fiction.  :mrgreen:)


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on February 28, 2012, 04:26 PM
Hi,
I am about to finish the installment # 6 of "The Plant" by S. King.  I think I started the series about 10 years ago...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on March 04, 2012, 02:41 AM
I can't remember if I mentioned this already or not, but I recently read the Hunger Games trilogy. I think it was back in January when I read them.

I loved the first book so much that I pretty much read it and the following two books in a single sitting. There may have been a bathroom or food break somewhere in there, but other than that I did nothing but read those three books from start to finish.

The first book was the best. The second book surprised me but made me like the protagonist a bit less. The third book was the worst, IMO, mostly because:

minor spoiler
in that book the protagonist was almost completely unlike how she was in the first book.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 04, 2012, 08:21 AM
My wife is dying to see the upcoming movie.

I have the Hunger Games trilogy on Kindle. Haven't read them yet because I'm currently finishing the Mistborn trilogy by Sanderson.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on March 12, 2012, 08:51 AM
The Lost Memory by Junichi Fujisaki.

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This is a short novel spin-off from the anime series Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.

I'm not normally inclined to read books based on movies or TV series. But this short novel hit all the right notes and actually made the anime series more interesting while remaining a good little book in it's own right. Not a bad accomplishment considering GIS is one of the better post-cyberpunk franchises out there.

The setting for most of the Ghost in the Shell stories is a big sprawling neo-Tokyo where cybernetic implants and brain alterations are the norm. It's a fairly complex story that isn't easily summarized, although the predominant themes center on what it means to be alive, "truly human" - and what constitutes what we accept as 'reality.'

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The treatment throughout Ghost in the Shell is very adult, and lacks most , but not always all (in the TV series) of the cutesy adolescent elements that occupy center stage in so many of these types of stories coming out of Japan.

Here's the capsule summary of the plot from the publisher.

Since being formed as a shadow peacekeeping organization, Section 9 has faced almost countless adversaries both in the real world and in cyberspace, but none like "The Awakened," a group of terrorists who seem to have the ability to take over the minds and bodies of almost anyone and use them to commit crimes against the state, leaving their pawns unaware of who was controlling them. When Major Motoko Kusanagi is able to capture one of the boys used as a pawn she hacks into his cyberbrain to find out who the ringleader is, but what she discovers will take her and the operatives of Section 9 on a journey deep into the heart of cyberspace, and the answers she finds will shake Section 9 to its core.

Very well done. And even more amazing, that it survived translation.

About $9 in bookstores (if there are any still left where you live) or from Amazon for...hmm...the same price! What's going on here? :huh:

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Note: If you're new to Ghost in the Shell, I'd suggest possibly viewing some of the anime before plunging into the book. Especially if you don't have much experience with this genre. The best are the three feature-length animations Ghost in the Shell and it's quasi-sequels Ghost in the Shell2: Innocence and Ghost in the Shell: Solid State Society - which is the lead-in for the subsequent Stand Alone Complex series.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on March 12, 2012, 09:40 AM
I've got a few books on the go. The only paper book that I'm reading is:

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But, I finally got myself a tablet, and am now reading a book on permanent magnetic motors, and this:

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I plan to read more non-technical books (electronically) now that I have a decent reading platform (Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 - from Korea -- not the hacked down version everyone else gets. :P ;D )

I simply love having a truckload of books on my tab. It's so easy. And I don't have to deal with an BS from Amazon or Apple.  8)


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on March 12, 2012, 08:17 PM
I picked up The Giver (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3636.The_Giver) on Google Play Books (https://play.google.com/store/books) for $0.25 the other day and I'm a few chapters in. It's interesting so far, but seems like it will be a short read.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on April 23, 2012, 02:31 PM
Just started "Operation Napoleon", by Arnaldur Indridason.

Just finished "Mortal Engines," by Philip Reeve.
Far-future science fiction?  For children/young adults?  This one is great.  It deserves all the prizes awarded to it.  Adventure, energy, betrayal, revenge, romance, loyalty, engaging characters, a complicated villain, an unexpected denouement.  I couldn't put it down, and immediately requested the next in the quartet from the library.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on May 06, 2012, 08:54 AM
Ha! I just dropped in here to recommend Arnaldur Indridason (I'm working through the Erlendur series) an see that rjbull has beaten me to it. I'm currently reading "Arctic Chill" (book number 4) and am very impressed with Indridason's plot development and "mood".
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on May 06, 2012, 11:29 AM
Ha! I just dropped in here to recommend Arnaldur Indridason (I'm working through the Erlendur series) an see that rjbull has beaten me to it. I'm currently reading "Arctic Chill" (book number 4) and am very impressed with Indridason's plot development and "mood".
It's a great series, and from the little I know of Iceland (I visited years ago on photographic holidays, and read a bit about it), the backdrop of the merciless landscape is exactly right.  Indridason had me worried with Outrage, the 7th in the series, in which Erlendur ominously doesn't feature, but I see there's now an eighth, Black Skies, to be published this June.

Not sure what it is with Scandinavian thriller writers, especially Jo Nesbo and Hakan Nesser.  Is everybody up there really so polite?  I mean, the detectives go to someone's house to interview them about a murder, but nothing can be done until they've all sat down and had a cup of coffee and a piece of cake!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on May 06, 2012, 05:47 PM
I thought I was reading
this
Preventing Alzheimer's: Ways to Help Prevent, Delay, Detect, and Even Halt Alzheimer's Disease and OtherForms of Memory Loss by William Rodman Shankle and Daniel G. Amen

but now I'm not so sure…
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: dragonmage on May 06, 2012, 07:04 PM
Reading The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes on Google Play Books.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 07, 2012, 08:44 PM
Just finished "Sundiver" by David Brin. Now reading "March Upcountry" by John Ringo.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Mark0 on May 08, 2012, 05:58 AM
Just started "iWoz - Computer Geek to Cult Icon: How I Invented the Personal Computer, Co-Founded Apple, and Had Fun Doing It".
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on May 20, 2012, 03:00 PM
Just started Games of Thrones from Georges RR Martin, and at the same time, thanks to Kindle, Telling from François Taillandier.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on May 20, 2012, 03:11 PM
Just started Games of Thrones from Georges RR Martin

Settle in; you're in for a long ride.  =]
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on May 21, 2012, 02:36 PM
Just started Games of Thrones from Georges RR Martin

Settle in; you're in for a long ride.  =]

You couldn't be more to the point : I saw the paperback version, which gave me a fair estimate of the "volume" it represents.   I find the kindle version less intimidating.

My ISP is broadcasting now the season 2 of the HBO TV show made after the series, but I doubt I'll be able to catch up...  I am still in the part where Jon is staring is "job" at the wall....
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on May 21, 2012, 06:10 PM

Renegade, that book is too hard. It as all those ... eew... pages in them! Can you reduce it down to a tweet?  :P
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on May 21, 2012, 06:15 PM
Can you reduce it down to a tweet?  :P

"Don't get attached to characters because everybody dies eventually."
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 21, 2012, 06:43 PM
Just finished John Ringo's "March Upcountry", and Demetri Martin's "This Is A Book". Currently reading second in C. S. Friedman's 'Magister' series, "Wings of Wrath".
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on May 21, 2012, 07:03 PM
I might actually have a nice list of some re-unearthed books shortly.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mahesh2k on May 22, 2012, 09:39 AM
Just finished reading Psychological Thriller short story - Hidden Room (http://d.moonfire.us/contemporary/hidden-room/).

Also finished Wisdom of Confucius (http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/3330/pg3330.html).

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on May 22, 2012, 10:14 AM
My ISP is broadcasting now the season 2 of the HBO TV show made after the series, but I doubt I'll be able to catch up...  I am still in the part where Jon is staring is "job" at the wall....

For the record, the HBO series is really well done and my wife and I both enjoy it (she hasn't read the books).  As an aside, I'm hoping Martin lasts long enough to finish out the written series.  It's somewhat frustrating when you invest several thousand pages worth of time into a series that doesn't get finished.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on May 23, 2012, 01:10 AM
That happens all the time with TV shows BTW (sorry for being slightly OT).  I am thinking for instance to SAAB (Space Above and Beyond) which had a few nice points but was cancelled with more questions opened than closed.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on May 26, 2012, 12:49 AM
Here it is, although in Alpha form. (Edit: My project for a layout plugin stalled.)

These are the books in my Science Fiction Becoming News project.

http://www.freevoteusa.com/Books/Bookindex.html

There's nothing in the sub nodes yet, but I'm excited with the dynamic menu.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on June 07, 2012, 04:29 AM
Random entry:
Christopher Anvil collection RX For Chaos.
Interesting note: It came out in 2008, and I just got around to looking at Wikipedia and noticed that the author passed on only a year after that. So Baen books must have decided to ask him for republishing rights while he was still alive both to make him feel good / send him a little money for his funeral costs, and maybe to avoid estate wrangling.

At a glacial pace, I am doing a project relating certain fiction which was ahead of its time with subsequent news stories that cast the original story in new context of relevance. Turns out that a full third of what were once SciFi stories he wrote are *just now* hitting the news. Typical example: A hilarious pseudo-documentary from *1978* called "A Handheld Primer" is just now describing the iPhone-Android wars.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 26, 2012, 02:58 PM
Just finished:  Dark Fire, by C.J. Sansom, the second in his "Shardlake" series, that starts with Dissolution.  These are outstanding historical thrillers, set at the time of Henry VIII.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on August 27, 2012, 08:26 AM
Just finished:  Dark Fire, by C.J. Sansom, the second in his "Shardlake" series, that starts with Dissolution.  These are outstanding historical thrillers, set at the time of Henry VIII.

must check that out.

A while back I read Pope Joan by Donna Woolfolk Cross. It's a really good novel -not a thriller as such, but lots of suspense in there- based on the story that there was a female pope in the early middle ages. Wikipedia doesnt have much faith in the story but that's besides the point really ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Joan#Analysis_and_critique

That was one of the first historical novels I've read. I moved on to The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett (1989) about the building of a cathedral in 12thC England. It is a good read, very gripping - but the writing at times gets in the way of the story. There was a bit of a low in the middle where I almost gave up - but at 1,150 pages in my copy, he did well to keep me reading to the end.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on August 27, 2012, 03:52 PM
I like Ken Follett. Haven't read Pillars yet, but I've read Jackdaws and A Place Called Freedom.

Just finished Life Form by Alan Dean Foster.

Currently, I'm reading the third and final novel in Greg Bear's "Eon" series.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: joiwind on August 27, 2012, 04:12 PM
The Quincunx by Charles Palliser - it's like Dickens to the power of ten.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on August 27, 2012, 04:48 PM
Recently finished:
Freedom (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freedom-Jonathan-Franzen/dp/0007269765/)
Effective Java, 2nd edition (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Effective-Java-Second-Joshua-Bloch/dp/0321356683/)
If You Meet The Buddha On The Road, Kill Him (http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Meet-Buddha-Road-Kill/dp/0553278320) (bought it because it's Peter Bishop's favorite book :-[)
Fahrenheit 451 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fahrenheit-451-Flamingo-Modern-Classics/dp/0006546064/) (about time - already did Animal Farm, Brave New World, Catch 22 and 1984.)

Currently reading:
The God Delusion (http://www.amazon.co.uk/God-Delusion-Richard-Dawkins/dp/055277331X) (preaching to the choir, I love his dry British humour.)

Next up:
TiHKAL (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tihkal-Continuation-Alexander-Shulgin/dp/0963009699) or
The Doors Of Perception (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doors-Perception-Heaven-Hell/dp/0099458209)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on August 28, 2012, 01:51 AM
Currently reading:

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Update: If you want to read a Koontz novel for the first time - I recommend you don't start with this one.  After reading this and then going back to read the reviews on Amazon I'd have to agree with almost every person who gave it 3 stars or less.  This is one of the most tedious books I've ever waded through and I ended up just skip-reading whole pages at a time, (possibly about 30% of the book as a whole).  His Frankenstein series is far, far better than this.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 28, 2012, 09:25 AM
The 351 Books of Irma Arcuri: A Novel by David Bajo

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The publisher's synopsis sums it up quite well:

Throughout mathematician Philip Masyrk's peripatetic life, there has been only one constant: Irma Arcuri. Their ongoing love affair has endured his two marriages and her countless travels. But now Irma has vanished, leaving Philip her library of 351 books, including five written by Irma herself. Buried somewhere within her luxuriously rebound volumes of Cervantes and Turgenev, Borges and Fowles, lies the secret to her disappearance-and Philip soon realizes that he is trapped within their narratives as well. Who is Irma Arcuri? What is really hidden in the library? And most importantly, whose story is this?

Bogs down in a few places. And the inevitable sex scenes weren't handled all that well. (It's harder to write a good piece of erotica than most people think.) And none of the characters are even remotely likeable. Something that surprised me considering the story works reasonably well despite that.

My only complaint was that the reveal and payoff didn't quite do enough justice to the premise and build-up. Which is unfortunate since this is a story about playing a variant of the god-game. But it's a brainy-fun read nevertheless. If you like Fowles, especially his book The Magus, you'll feel right at home here.

For technical reading there's Nmap Network Scanning: The Official Nmap Project Guide to Network Discovery and Security Scanning by Gordon Lyon and Nick Marsh's most excellent NMAP Cookbook.

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I always suspected I wasn't using NMAP to anywhere near its full potential. Turns out I was right.

I'm about half way through Lyons' book. And I'm 'page hopping' Marsh's book at the same time. Both are good. Together they're very good. Recommended. :up:



Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: nosh on August 28, 2012, 02:00 PM
I've picked up Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead once again. I'd abandoned it years back, I remember it being interesting but a similar scenario played out in the story once too often and I lost patience. Hope to complete it this time... (once I get through all those missed Breaking Bad episodes.  ;D)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 29, 2012, 11:03 AM
@nosh - I have serious misgivings about Ayn Rand. Probably because I've known far too many otherwise smart people who swallowed her 'arguments' lock stock and barrel. And I personally consider The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged to be two of the more dangerous (and not in a good way) books ever penned. Right up there with Mein Kampf and most of the works of Nietzsche. (Please don't ask me what I consider to be the the most dangerous books ever written. :nono2:)

By all means read her novels.

But if you find yourself too readily buying into her Objectivist Philosophy, do yourself a favor and read this (http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/) and this (http://www.scribd.com/doc/102657523/On-the-Randian-Argument-Nozick) afterwards.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on August 29, 2012, 11:16 AM
(Please don't ask me what I consider to be the the most dangerous books ever written. :nono2:)
There's two of them, isn't there? (Perhaps three, if you consider the first book to consist of and old and a new part).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 29, 2012, 11:20 AM
(Please don't ask me what I consider to be the the most dangerous books ever written. :nono2:)
There's two of them, isn't there? (Perhaps three, if you consider the first book to consist of and old and a new part).

Yes two. One consisting of an old part and a new part, plus its "next generation" sequel. Put them together and they've probably provided the 'rationale' and the 'justification' for more bloodshed and suffering than anything else ever written.
 8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: nosh on August 29, 2012, 12:35 PM
Thanks 40, I'll bear that in mind. I've been curious about objectivism for a while now, because it gets referenced from time to time in pop culture.

otherwise smart people...

Looks like I have the upper hand here. ;D I didn't get "the most dangerous books" part till I read f0dder's comment... see what I mean? There's atleast one other book in that genre that I consider equally dangerous.

Thanks for the links too. I'll come back to them once I've heard what Ms.Rand has to say.  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Attronarch on August 29, 2012, 05:39 PM
The Machine That Changed The World

But if you find yourself too readily buying into her Objectivist Philosophy, do yourself a favor and read this (http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/) and this (http://www.scribd.com/doc/102657523/On-the-Randian-Argument-Nozick) afterwards.

Now, that was quite interesting and fun read.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 29, 2012, 09:18 PM
The Machine That Changed The World

But if you find yourself too readily buying into her Objectivist Philosophy, do yourself a favor and read this (http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/) and this (http://www.scribd.com/doc/102657523/On-the-Randian-Argument-Nozick) afterwards.

Now, that was quite interesting and fun read.

+1! Real philosophical discussions usually are if you take the time to read and digest them. And Bob Nozick is always a good read. Check out this book Anarchy, State, and Utopia for more. :up:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Shades on August 30, 2012, 12:37 PM
(Please don't ask me what I consider to be the the most dangerous books ever written. :nono2:)
There's two of them, isn't there? (Perhaps three, if you consider the first book to consist of and old and a new part).

Yes two. One consisting of an old part and a new part, plus its "next generation" sequel. Put them together and they've probably provided the 'rationale' and the 'justification' for more bloodshed and suffering than anything else ever written.
 8)

The sequel...would that be the one from the L.D.S.? (We would be in total agreement if that is the case)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 30, 2012, 02:42 PM
(Please don't ask me what I consider to be the the most dangerous books ever written. :nono2:)
There's two of them, isn't there? (Perhaps three, if you consider the first book to consist of and old and a new part).

Yes two. One consisting of an old part and a new part, plus its "next generation" sequel. Put them together and they've probably provided the 'rationale' and the 'justification' for more bloodshed and suffering than anything else ever written.
 8)

The sequel...would that be the one from the L.D.S.? (We would be in total agreement if that is the case)

Oops. Make that three books. ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on August 30, 2012, 03:23 PM
I tend to only read parts of books lately. (A few years now.)

It's because when I do projects I work laterally, so any one book basically only has 1-6 chapters that really fit.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on August 30, 2012, 03:40 PM
Next up for me is a book on set theory -- something I haven't read about since I was an undergraduate.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mahesh2k on August 30, 2012, 03:45 PM
Thanks to 40hz, got hands on 101 Zen stories book. Worth a read.

Two books in queue -

48 Laws of Power - Robert Greene
What every BODY is saying.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on August 30, 2012, 03:51 PM
Thanks to 40hz, got hands on 101 Zen stories book. Worth a read.

Two books in queue -

48 Laws of Power - Robert Greene
What every BODY is saying.

Which 101 Zen Stories? There's a couple (ish). Blue Cliff Record is the most famous one, but then there's a second one that ... is hiding in my library.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mahesh2k on August 30, 2012, 03:56 PM
Zen flesh zen bones by paul reps.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 30, 2012, 04:20 PM
Thanks to 40hz, got hands on 101 Zen stories book. Worth a read.

Glad you like it. I think it's one of the best things I've ever read. Possibly the best considering the difference it made in my life and way of thinking. :Thmbsup:


Which 101 Zen Stories?

The one I'm referring to is by Nyogen Senzaki (details here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101_Zen_Stories)). It's more accessible and playful than The Blue Cliff Record with its collection of 100 koans with commentaries. Senzaki's book has been excepted and translated to create 101 Zen Stories which is one of four 'books' released as a collection by Paul Reps under the title Zen Flesh, Zen Bones. The other pieces in the collection are The Gateless Gate, Ten Bulls, and Centering.
 :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: daddydave on August 30, 2012, 05:31 PM
(Please don't ask me what I consider to be the the most dangerous books ever written. :nono2:)
There's two of them, isn't there? (Perhaps three, if you consider the first book to consist of and old and a new part).

Bibles don't kill people, people kill people...;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 30, 2012, 06:13 PM
(Please don't ask me what I consider to be the the most dangerous books ever written. :nono2:)
There's two of them, isn't there? (Perhaps three, if you consider the first book to consist of and old and a new part).

Bibles don't kill people, people kill people...;)

Exactly right. But most people don't kill without believing (or being taught to believe) there is an absolute justification - and possibly a requirement - to do so.

I have no intrinsic quarrel with the Bible, The Koran, or any of the other tomes that come out of the Judeo-Christian belief system. Nor do I have a quarrel with those who follow them. But a "live and let live" attitude is not always reciprocated. And in most cases, it's a line or paragraph from some holy book (often misinterpreted or taken completely out of context) that gets used as the justification for confrontation. Or worse. So I consider those books extremely dangerous - not so much for how they might be used - but rather for how they have been used. And continue to be used for that matter.
 :)

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: NigelH on August 30, 2012, 08:13 PM
..... I consider those books extremely dangerous  ....

I've seen a number of like minded comments in other threads by other board members over the last few months but I've not said anything.
40hz, don't take this reply a personal affront, it is not specifically aimed at you.
Perhaps we need a new thread for this where things can be discussed civilly.
Not that there are not enough other discussion boards on this subject where one could have a field day, so perhaps not.

Much wrong is done in the name of "religion" when what was done has no relevance with regard to the fundamentals of the actual faith.
I'm speaking only of the Christian faith (religion is an obnoxious term, so I don't use it). 
People are flawed - always have been, always will be.
We're all well aware of the depths of depravity to which people (anyone and everyone) could descend, right.
Even the most seemingly civilized person.

Perhaps you want to read something like this (Atheism and Mass Murder (http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mass_Murder)) when you refer to dangerous.

As for delusion, unfortunately Richard Dawkins at the end of his life will discover to his eternal horror how deluded he really was.
The same comment applies to those who believe similarly.

 
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on August 30, 2012, 08:45 PM
I happen to agree with your stance, NigelH, as seen here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=31705.msg295327#msg295327), but you will discover as I have that our metaphysical views are a distinct minority here. Still, I congratulate you for standing up for our faith. I attempt (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=29649.0) to do likewise.

If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. - Luke 9:26
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 30, 2012, 09:42 PM
@NigelH - no affront taken. But I think you might be misunderstanding what I'm actually saying here...

..... I consider those books extremely dangerous  ....

I've seen a number of like minded comments in other threads by other board members over the last few months but I've not said anything.
40hz, don't take this reply a personal affront, it is not specifically aimed at you.
Perhaps we need a new thread for this where things can be discussed civilly.
Not that there are not enough other discussion boards on this subject where one could have a field day, so perhaps not.

Much wrong is done in the name of "religion" when what was done has no relevance with regard to the fundamentals of the actual faith.

My point has nothing to do with the fundamentals of faith - or what constitutes the notion of "actual" in that regard.

Not being a trained theologian, I do not feel qualified to enter into that sort of discussion, despite sixteen years (eight with Jesuits) of what may be considered "religious education." If I have learned anything from that experience, I have learned that theology, as a science, is not a polite intellectual parlor game - or an excuse to indulge in wordplay. Theological discussion and debate, in actual practice, is something best left to professionals.

What I am talking about is human behavior and how it may be manipulated through the use of certain books which are held in especial regard, and afforded a high degree of credibility, because they are considered (by their adherent faiths) to be divinely inspired. And because these books, and the words they contain, are so frequently and successfully employed for dubious purposes, I therefor consider them - as books - to be dangerous.

As far as the underlying truths contained within them (or the lack thereof) you'll need to find someone far more academically qualified and spiritually gifted than I am to comment on them.

I hope that clarifies for you what I'm actually talking about. :)

I happen to agree with your stance, NigelH, as seen here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=31705.msg295327#msg295327), but you will discover as I have that our metaphysical views are a distinct minority here. Still, I congratulate you for standing up for our faith.

@k - While it may be laudable to "stand up" for what one believes, in this particular thread I can't see where there was anything that needed to be stood up against considering nothing was being said that in any way challenged a belief, a faith, or some variety of revealed truth. (See my above comment to Nigel.)  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on August 30, 2012, 09:50 PM
To be honest, I didn't even scroll up and read your post, 40hz. My post was in support of the bravery I perceive Nigel to have shown by standing up to what he perceived as such an attack. I wanted him to know that there is at least one other Christian on this site of thousands. I still haven't read any of the posts before Nigel's. My intent is not to cast any aspersions on you or anyone else, but simply to encourage Nigel in his faith and in being brave in a world that has largely lost faith.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 30, 2012, 09:54 PM
in a world that has largely lost faith.

That much I think we can all agree is a problem, regardless of our degree of belief or which form it may take. :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: NigelH on August 30, 2012, 11:05 PM
40hz, with regard to human behavior, you're quite right - I expressed a similar notion.

As for "Theological discussion and debate, in actual practice, is something best left to professionals.", that is a disastrous assumption to make.
The "professionals" themselves have caused much of the problem.
That's not to say there should not be professionals, just that what they say should be weighed against what is written.
Again, I'm referring only to the Bible.
There is no other divinely inspired book.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on August 30, 2012, 11:31 PM
In an effort to reduce the number of books around the abode, trying (again) to get through the following:


They are all turning out to be more interesting this time through...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on August 30, 2012, 11:42 PM
As for delusion, unfortunately Richard Dawkins at the end of his life will discover to his eternal horror how deluded he really was.
The same comment applies to those who believe similarly.
[...]
Again, I'm referring only to the Bible.
There is no other divinely inspired book.
-NigelH
Goddamn, you religious people are so full of yourselves >_<
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 30, 2012, 11:47 PM
As for "Theological discussion and debate, in actual practice, is something best left to professionals.", that is a disastrous assumption to make.

Hardly an assumption by any stretch. It is my conclusion after much serious thought and consideration.


Again, I'm referring only to the Bible.
There is no other divinely inspired book.

I will neither agree nor disagree.

And perhaps it's best if we let it rest here.

As Mouser has previously pointed out, DoCo's forum is generally not an appropriate place for ongoing discussions or debates about political or religious subjects. Let's get back to talking about books as simply things to read. And maybe leave the issue of divine or inspired authorship for another place and day?

(The same goes for you folks on the other side of the aisle. :P )

Good chatting. Best! :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on August 30, 2012, 11:48 PM
And perhaps it's best if we let it rest here.
Amen.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mahesh2k on August 31, 2012, 01:30 AM
Perhaps you want to read something like this (Atheism and Mass Murder)*conservepedia when you refer to dangerous.As for delusion, unfortunately Richard Dawkins at the end of his life will discover to his eternal horror how deluded he really was.

Conservepedia and typical death-bed threat delusion?
The same comment applies to those who believe similarly.
Divine threat or something?

There is no other divinely inspired book.


 *sigh* this is book reading list thread for galactus sake. Let's move on.

Just finished - Getting Good with GIT - Andrew burgess.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on August 31, 2012, 02:34 AM
Umberto Eco: The Prague Cemetery
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on August 31, 2012, 02:47 AM
In an effort to reduce the number of books around the abode, trying (again) to get through the following:

  • The Fabric of the Cosmos (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22435.The_Fabric_of_the_Cosmos)
  • de Bono's Thinking Course, Revised Edition (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/98482.de_Bono_s_Thinking_Course)
  • The Second Brain (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/636974.The_Second_Brain)

They are all turning out to be more interesting this time through...

Unfortunately, the Number Of Books In The Abode increases like Fibonacci, while (mine at least) reading powers only manage between 4-7 per year in my current weakened state. :(
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: NigelH on August 31, 2012, 06:04 AM
... you religious people are so full of yourselves >_<
That word again   ;)
Not so much full of ourselves - just no shadow of doubt.


I will neither agree nor disagree.
And perhaps it's best if we let it rest here.
As Mouser has previously pointed out, DoCo's forum is generally not an appropriate place for ongoing discussions or debates about political or religious subjects. Let's get back to talking about books as simply things to read. And maybe leave the issue of divine or inspired authorship for another place and day?
Absolutely - I'm good with that.


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on August 31, 2012, 06:49 AM
As Mouser has previously pointed out, DoCo's forum is generally not an appropriate place for ongoing discussions or debates about political or religious subjects.

+1.

Agreed. That's why I asserted here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=31705.msg295327#msg295327) that such discussions belong in emails, Skype, PMs, or other venues. At the very least, it would be better were they confined to The Basement (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?board=311.0) thread.

Now, since we seem to have gotten off-topic, I'm currently reading Legacy (http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Greg-Bear/dp/0812524810/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1346413523&sr=8-7&keywords=eon) the third in Greg Bear's Eon trilogy.

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Very good reads, all three books! Any sci-fi buffs who haven't enjoyed these delicacies are encouraged to sample them...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on September 09, 2012, 09:44 AM
Currently reading Line of Polity (http://www.amazon.com/Line-Polity-Second-Agent-Cormac/dp/0330512560/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347201804&sr=8-1&keywords=line+of+polity), by Neal Asher.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on September 09, 2012, 10:06 AM
Just finished reading the graphic novel style book on economics called "Economix":

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http://economixcomix.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Economix-Economy-Works-Doesnt-Pictures/dp/0810988399

I enjoyed it quite a bit, and recommend it, but a few comments:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on September 09, 2012, 01:45 PM
^^Looks fun, I'll be getting it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on September 09, 2012, 02:40 PM
If you liked Economix, checkout Steven E. Landsberg's sly collection of essays: The Armchair Economist: Economics and Everyday Life. (http://www.amazon.com/The-Armchair-Economist-Economics-Everyday/dp/1451651732/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347218019&sr=8-1&keywords=the+armchair+economist)

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A fun and interesting book that shows how an economist views the world. (Not at all like most folks, it turns out!) Plenty of food for thought even if you find yourself desperately wanting to disagree with half of what he suggests.

And if economics really starts interesting you, grab a copy of Robert L. Heilbroner's now classic work:  The Worldly Philosophers: The Lives, Times And Ideas Of The Great Economic Thinkers, Seventh Edition (http://www.amazon.com/The-Worldly-Philosophers-Economic-Thinkers/dp/068486214X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347218787&sr=8-1&keywords=the+worldly+philosophers)

Now in it's 7th edition (I read the first editing when I was in management school) this is the book that introduces you to all the great thinkers whose ideas about economics shaped the capitalist society we live in today.

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It's been said that in order to understand the present, and anticipate what the future will hold, it's essential to know the events and thought processes that led us here. Heilbroner's book does just that. It's a most excellent book that's written in a style that makes it as appropriate for college level study as it does for quiet armchair reading at home. Easily one of the most well-written books on the subject currently available. Grab a spare hour, brew yourself a good cup of tea (or a pot of coffee), get comfortable someplace, and get down with this book.

Seriously. If you're only ever going to read one book on economics - make it this book. :-*

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on September 09, 2012, 04:02 PM
Hey 40...do I get a degree if I read and watch all this stuff?  Cuz if I don't, you're just wasting my time!!  I could be getting my EE PhD and get on the fast track to --> $$$
 :(
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on September 09, 2012, 07:20 PM
Half way through Dean Koontz' Odd Apocalypse:

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on September 09, 2012, 10:36 PM
Hey 40...do I get a degree if I read and watch all this stuff?

Nope! :)

Cuz if I don't, you're just wasting my time!!  I could be getting my EE PhD and get on the fast track to --> $$$
 :(

Yup!

(But if you do, be sure to take classes in either Mandarin of Hindi. Because you'll need it for where you'll be working with that level of education if the US continues going in the direction it's going.)
 :tellme:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on September 09, 2012, 10:47 PM
^^ ;D

So true!  Shh!!  You're not supposed to say it out loud!!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Paul Keith on September 09, 2012, 11:06 PM
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Nothing notable. Just like the cover.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: iphigenie on September 10, 2012, 02:16 AM
Aliette de Bodard's trilogy - I read it on ebook (direct from angryrobot) but I think I'll get the book so I can lend it and make R read it

Fantasy but in a non euro-medieval setting. Really got me, and I am picky and jaded when it comes to fantasy or magical realism. It feels truly different - very different type of belief system and society - and the books are structured as detective stories as much as heroic fantasy

http://aliettedebodard.com/bibliography/novels/

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PS: her blog also lists science fiction, learning vietnamese and vietnamese/chinese cooking, and maths.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on September 10, 2012, 03:28 PM
Fantasy but in a non euro-medieval setting. Really got me, and I am picky and jaded when it comes to fantasy or magical realism.
There are some good fantasy series set in pseudo-mediaeval, pseudo-North European milieus, but it's been done to death.  It's a refreshing change to find something different, so thanks for that one.

FWIW, authors of fantasies that I've enjoyed, who set their works in relatively unusual worlds, include Sarah Ash, Garth Nix, Caroline Stevermer, Michael Marshall Smith, Steph Swainston, Naomi Novik, P.C. Hodgell, Chris Wooding, Jonathan Stroud, Marcus Sedgwick, Jan Siegel/Amanda Hemingway, Chris Wooding, and D.M. Cornish.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: iphigenie on September 12, 2012, 05:25 AM
Fantasy but in a non euro-medieval setting. Really got me, and I am picky and jaded when it comes to fantasy or magical realism.
There are some good fantasy series set in pseudo-mediaeval, pseudo-North European milieus, but it's been done to death.  It's a refreshing change to find something different, so thanks for that one.

FWIW, authors of fantasies that I've enjoyed, who set their works in relatively unusual worlds, include Sarah Ash, Garth Nix, Caroline Stevermer, Michael Marshall Smith, Steph Swainston, Naomi Novik, P.C. Hodgell, Chris Wooding, Jonathan Stroud, Marcus Sedgwick, Jan Siegel/Amanda Hemingway, and Chris Wooding.

Enough names I recognise to suggest you will indeed enjoy these books.

And I notice I managed in my writing and rewriting of those 3 lines to loose the bit that says that the setting is pre-european-invasion Mexico (with huge liberties taken, of course).

Other books/series in the fantasy vein enjoyed recently:

Adrian Tchaikovsky’s Shadows of the Apt. The premise doesn't quite work if you think too much about it, but if you don't try to imagine "how would this world have happened" and go with the flow, it's extremely enjoyable. The clash of civilisation models, industrial revolution and the fact that the characters are not simple good/evil but have understandable motivations and conflicts of loyalties. Also, he has no qualms killing characters so this keeps you on your toes when reading.

The Inheritance Trilogy by N. K. Jemisin - very mythological/ancient epic feeling, kind of weird, About geopolitics, change, gods and mortals and their relationship. It all feels both familiar and alien and utterly fresh - although I don't think this format will work for more than a few books.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mahesh2k on September 12, 2012, 07:44 AM
Building Wordpress Themes from Scratch - Joe casabona

Not a good book. I personally think of it as waste of time because they focused on un-necessary things instead of putting things the easy way.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on September 12, 2012, 10:17 AM
^I've been dorking with Que's WordPress In Depth the last few weeks.

Be forewarned - it isn't.

I'd call it more like "WordPress for the clueless." And I'm very disappointed since most of the In Depth titles have been quite good in the past.

This book feels disorganized. But that may well be because WordPress itself is rather disorganized - besides being mostly written in pHp - which (from my admittedly limited experience with it so far) has to be the single most sloppy, poorly implemented, and sprawling of any scripting language.

There's nothing in this book you couldn't get by looking around online or reading the official Codex.

Not recommended. :down:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on September 22, 2012, 09:20 AM
pHp - which (from my admittedly limited experience with it so far) has to be the single most sloppy, poorly implemented, and sprawling of any scripting language.

+1. When I used PHP for my online Hangman Scoreboard in NANY 2011, it was nightmarish. I kept thinking, I am just so novice a coder that this stuff seems difficult, or is this stuff that ugly?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on September 22, 2012, 04:14 PM
^thx for that. Any time I have a real conceptual or design issue with a language I always worry it's probably just me.  :tellme:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mahesh2k on September 22, 2012, 06:34 PM
Ironically it is the only thing that gets things done quickly. Look at all the forum, blog and portal software coded in php.
 
Python, ASP and ROR are horribly slow and complicated for novice people to deploy. Just want to say whatever you to learn, avoid sitepoint and wrox books, hardly anything to be learned from these books.

Reading a lot about GIT by the way. I have to use the learned stuff on some fork from github.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on September 22, 2012, 07:25 PM
Since we seem to have gotten off on programming languages, here's my pipedream: a freeware software writing IDE that has the elegance of C# with its breadth of functions, produces fairly compact executables that are truly portable (such as with AutoIt).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on September 23, 2012, 10:19 AM
my pipedream: a freeware software writing IDE that has the elegance of C#
Isn't that called a mouser?  (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/WHISTLE.GIF)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on September 23, 2012, 06:07 PM
I've put up the thirty books I've read thus far in 2012 here (http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/13071534) in GoodReads, along with a brief review of each. I'll put up past years' reads, as time allows...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on September 24, 2012, 10:17 AM
Just recently finished Leonardo Lospennato's book Electric Guitar & Bass Design.

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A very nicely organized presentation about the design decisions and compromises behind the world's most popular instrument family. This isn't a how-to book so much as it is a why-to book. Definitely worth reading if you build or work on guitars or bass guitars. Leonard Lospennato (http://lospennato.com/) is a custom instrument builder, so this book isn't an academic or 'serious hobbyist' presentation like some guitar building books are. Much of what's in here finds it's way into his well-regarded line of $3K (and up) instruments.

Players can benefit from reading it as well since it explains what the critical factors to guitar tone and construction are (and debunks several long-standing myths along the way) thereby making you a more informed player and future buyer. Good book! Available directly from the author's website (http://lospennato.com/) or Amazon. (Note: there are also bootleg PDFs of the book up on RapidShare and other file "sharing" sites. Please don't get your copy that way.)


The other book I'm currently working on is A Guide to Advanced Cigar Box Guitar Making by Joshua Gayou. This is 179 pages of detailed information and tips on how to build a "cigar box" instrument. I put "cigar box" in quotes because cigar box, in this context, is more an esthetic and an approach to guitar making rather than a 100% accurate description of the components used to build one.

Josh walks you through the construction of a less common "precision" 6-string electric quasi-solid body CBG. (Most CBGs have 3 or 4 strings and are hollow or semi-hollow.) So much of the material in his book applies to standard solid body guitars as well.

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Design

If you're going to build a simple stick-through-a-box guitar, you don't need to invest a lot
of time in design. You're not exactly making a precision instrument, so it's pretty safe to
figure things out as you go.

Once you start adding details like scale, frets, standard bridges, and 100 other features,
you'll want to start planning things out on paper first before you take a saw blade to any
wood. Especially when you get to a point that you're using more expensive woods,
you'll want to plan everything out on paper first as mistakes become costly.

One of the challenges we face when we make what I would describe as a precision
cigar box guitar (accurate scale length, frets, string spacing, etc) is that we are
constrained by the size of the box we are using. Conventional guitar makers have a lot
more freedom than we do because they get to design the shape and size of their guitar
body around the features that they want the guitar to have. Cigar box guitar makers
have to design their guitar around the box to ensure that everything will fit correctly.

Available as a free (legal!) PDF download from here (http://joshuagayou.com/downloads/AdvancedCigarBoxGuitarConstruction.zip).

This book and other CBG plans can be found on this page (http://www.cigarboxnation.com/page/free-plans) over at the Cigar Box Nation website..

(Note: "cigar box guitar" is a catchall term for a huge variety of self-made instruments constructed of things like: tin cans, antique bed warmers and bedpans, cigar boxes, canoe paddles, washtubs, wine cases, old bureau drawers, broomsticks, and 2X4s. The emphasis is on using found materials and having fun, while at the same time creating a good sounding and playable instrument.)

OT Alert!!!: below has nothing to do with books. Feel free to ignore.

Just as an aside...to give you some idea of what to expect when cruising with the cigar box crowd, here's the well known UK pro-CBG builder 'Chickenbone John' doing a pitch for his 6-string CBGs - which are very similar to the guitar Josh is describing in his book.

Chickenbone John (who looks like he's just back from a gig) gives us a slightly inebriated presentation of two new guitars - one made from a cigar box, and the other out of an oil can. Plus, as a bonus, he puts in a few words for Chickenbone John's Miracle Tonic Remedy which is equally suitable for 'medicinal' sipping, cleaning guitar strings, or boosting the mileage in you gas tank.



 ;) 8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on September 24, 2012, 10:35 AM
^^I wonder how hard it would be to build a big boy double bass (4/4 ?).  The kind the old school big band bassists would pluck for Basie back in the 40s.  The Ray Brown bass...I've heard his was called "the Truck".  These cigar box guys are doing amazing things.  There's even a guy attempting to build a grand piano??  crazy.

I'm having a very difficult time finding anybody playing the big ray brown bass around here.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on September 24, 2012, 10:58 AM
^Difficult. Carving any sort of archtop is tough, as is bending sides.

If you don't care what it looks like however, workable upright basses (http://www.cigarboxnation.com/video/hand-dipped-piezos-and-a-washtub-bass?xg_source=activity) can be built much more easily and cheaply by getting just a little...um...creative?
 :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on September 24, 2012, 11:04 AM
I'm having a very difficult time finding anybody playing the big ray brown bass around here.

You might have better luck if you'd guarantee the player a roadie plus convenient free transportation for the thing.  ;D

Time was (maybe still is) when you booked a union musician for double bass they'd get a "portage" fee along with the appearance money. I think that started when people finally realized you couldn't bring a bass onto a subway car so bassists who were packing the "doghouse" needed to call a cab to get them to the clubs they were playing at. Or at least they did if they wanted to arrive with their instrument in one piece.

FWIW, the biggest I've ever schlepped was the 3/4 - and that was a royal pain in the butt getting places with. Even with a ride.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on September 24, 2012, 12:28 PM
I'm having a very difficult time finding anybody playing the big ray brown bass around here.

You might have better luck if you'd guarantee the player a roadie plus convenient free transportation for the thing.  ;D

Time was (maybe still is) when you booked a union musician for double bass they'd get a "portage" fee along with the appearance money. I think that started when people finally realized you couldn't bring a bass onto a subway car so bassists who were packing the "doghouse" needed to call a cab to get them to the clubs they were playing at. Or at least they did if they wanted to arrive with their instrument in one piece.

FWIW, the biggest I've ever schlepped was the 3/4 - and that was a royal pain in the butt getting places with. Even with a ride.
That's true.  never considered that angle.  yet another reason to buy one for myself and loan it to whoever gigs with me.  Also lends itself to my idea of purchasing a used shitty van for gigs.

after i buy a grand piano, next i wanna buy a 4/4 bass and a gretsch-like drum kit.  have everything ready for the right musician to come play.  just bring your body.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Rover on October 07, 2012, 06:35 PM
The Galactic Football League books by Scott Sigler are a lot of fun.  See all of his work here. (http://scottsigler.com)

I just started reading the Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson.

The Discworld Series is a lot of fun too.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: joiwind on October 08, 2012, 11:53 AM
Just began The Children's Book by A.S. Byatt - a marvel, but perhaps not to everyone's taste.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on October 11, 2012, 09:36 AM
Reading a new book that's utterly gripping! (Seriously.) It just came in the mail yesterday! ;D (Found a great deal on it from a UK distributor.)

http://www.pocketref.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=321&lastcatid=218&step=4

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Table of Contents
PocketRef
Table of Contents       
Preface and Personal Information

Trade Names, Trade Marks, and References

Air and Gases
Composition of Air
Physical Properties of Air
Densities of Gases
Standard Atmosphere Definition
General Gas Laws &Formulas
Density of Moist Air
Elevation vs. Air & Water Properties
Dry Air Specific Heat & Sound Velocity at 1 Atmosphere for Various Temperatures
Dry Air Specific Heat at 20°C Constant Temperature and Various Pressures
Air Tool CFM & PSI Requirements
CFM vs. PSI for Various Nozzle Sizes
Air Hose Friction & Pressure Loss
Air Line Recommended Sizes
Air Receiver Capacities
Air Pollution Safe Limits

Automotive
Antifreeze Table
Spark Plug Spark Plug
Lead-Acid Battery Specific Gravity/Charge
Oil Viscosity vs. Temperature
Auto Headlight Warning
Automotive Air Conditioning
Automotive Electric Wiring
Tire Size vs. Load Rating
Tire Manufacturer Codes
Tire Size Coding
Load Range vs. Ply Rating
Automotive Formulas

Carpentry and Construction
Softwood Lumber Sizes
Softwood Lumber Grading
Hardwood Lumber Size and Grade
Wood Moisture Content
Plywood & Panel Grading
Wood Characteristics
Insulation Value of Materials
Maximum Floor Joist Spans
Strength of Wood Beams
Wood Gluing Characteristics
Concrete
Mortar

Chemistry and Physics
Element Tables
Element Properties
Periodic Table of the Elements
pH of Common Acids
pH of Common Bases
pH Indicators
Elementary Particles
Radioisotope Half Lives
Uranium-238 Decay Series
Galvanic Series of Metals in Seawater
Computers
Computer ASCII Codes
IBM PC Memory Map
IBM PC Hardware Interrupts
Serial Ports
DMA Channels
Megabytes and Kilobytes

Constants - Physical, Chemical and Math
Electrical - Wire, Motors and Frames
Copper Wire Current Capacity
Ampacity vs. Temperature Correction
Copper Wire Current Capacity (3 wire)
Standard Lamp & Extension Cord Current Capacities
Aluminum Wire Amp Capacity
Ampacity vs. Temp. Correction (Al)
Aluminum Wire Amp Capacity (3 wire)
Current Adjustment for more than 3 Wires in a Cable
Copper Wire Resistance
Standard Copper Wire Specs
Wire Classes & Insulation
Standard Wire Color Codes
Wire Size vs. Voltage Drop
Conduit Size vs. Wire Size
Box Size vs. Number of Wires
Average Electric Motor Specs
NEMA Electric Motor Frames
NEMA Electric Enclosure Types
DC Motor Wiring Specs
3 Phase Electric Motor Specs
HP vs. Torque vs. RPM for Motors

Electronics
Resistor Color Codes
Resistor Standard Values
Capacitor Color Codes
Capacitor Standard Values
Pilot Lamp Specs
Fuses - Small Tube Type
Battery Characteristics
Batteries - Standard Sizes
RF Coil Winding Data
Wire Size vs. Number of Turns/Inch
Decibels vs. Voltage & Power Ratios
Formulas for Electricity

General Information
Holidays
Season & Clock Dates
Signs of the zodiac
Flowers for each Month
Birthstones
Anniversary Names
Paper Sizes
English - Greek Alphabet
Radio Alphabet
Morse Code
"Ten" Radio Codes
Military Rank and Grade
State Information
Climate Data in U.S. Cities
Time Zones in the US
Time Zones in the World
Telephone Area Codes by Location
Telephone Area Codes by Area Code
Airports in the USA with Elevation, Codes, City Populations and Airport Name
Major World Airports & Elevations
Airline Two Letter Codes
Airline 1-800 Phone Numbers
Lost Credit Card Phone Numbers

General Science
Temperature Conversions °F-°C
Sound Intensities
Human Body Composition
Body Weight vs. Height
Physical Growth % - Boys
Physical Growth %$- Girls
Acceleration Due to Gravity
Beaufort Wind Strength Scale
Wind Chill Factors
Heat - Humidity Factors
Firewood/Fuel Heat Comparisons
Frequency Spectrum
Sun and Planetary Data

Geology
Mineral Table Abbreviations
Mineral Tables
Element to Oxide Conversions
Minerals Sorted by Density
Minerals Sorted by Hardness
Metal Content of Minerals

Geology (cont.)
Distinct Color Minerals
Mineral Crystal System
Minor Elements in Sedimentary Rocks
Minor Elements in Igneous Rocks
Igneous Rock Classification
Igneous Rock Classes by Color
Sedimentary Rock Classes
Metamorphic Rock Classes
Geochemical Lower Detection Limits
Mohs Scale of Hardness
Particle Size Descriptions
Richter & Mercali Earthquake Scales
Core Drill Specs
Geologic Time Scale

Glue, Solvents, Paints and Finishes
Glue Types and Applications
Common Solvents
Paints and Finishes

Hardware
Bolt Torque Specs (Inch)
Effect of Lubrication on Torque Rating
Bolt Torque Specs (Metric)
Bolt Torque Specs (Whitworth Std)
Wood Screw Specifications
Wood Screw Number vs. Screw Length
Sheet Metal Screw Specs
Pictures of Screw Heads
Cable Clamps for Wire Rope
Nails
Pictures of Nail Types

Math
Numeric Prefixes
Roman Numerals
Convert Inch-Foot-mm-Drill #
Squares, Cubes and Roots
Degrees, Radians, and Trig Functions
Log, Log e, Circumference, & Circle Area
Right Triangle Formulas
Oblique Triangle Formulas
Plane Figure Formulas
Solid Figure Formulas

Mine, Mill and Aggregate
Standard Sieve Series
Mineral Dressing Sizing Scale
Stockpile Volume and Weight
Material Dumping Angles
Rock Bulking Factors
Length of Conveyor Belt in a Roll
Conveyor Slope Angle Maximums
Conveyor Capacities
Conveyor Horsepower vs. Load
Jaw Crusher Horsepower vs. Tons/Hour

Money
Currency Exchange Rates
Discount Factors for Net Present Value
Simple Interest
Compound Interest
Numbered Days of the Year

Plumbing and Pipe
Copper Pipe and Tubing
Plastic Pipe
Steel Pipe
Steel Pipe Formulas
Steel Pipe - Pressure Ratings of Sch 40
Rope, Cable and Chain
Rope (poly, nylon, manila)
Wire Rope
Chain
Feet of Cable or Rope on a Reel
Pull Angle vs. Strength Loss

Steel and Metals
Steel Wire Gauges
Steel Sheet Gauges
Steel Plate Sizes
Wire and Sheet Specifications
Channel Steel
Angle Steel
Tee Steel
Round Bar Steel
Square Bar Steel
Hexagonal Bar Steel
Octagonal Bar Steel
Flat Steel
Square Steel Tubing
Rectangular Steel Tubing
Round Steel Tubing
Aluminum Types

Surveying and Mapping
Percent Grade to Degrees
Stadia Table
Formulas to Create Stadia Table
Mapping Scales and Areas
Apparent Dip Table
Three Point Problem
Magnetic Declination Map

Tools
American National Taps and Dies
Metric Taps and Dies
British Taps and Dies
British Association Standard Thread
American Standard Taper Pipe Thread
American Standard Straight Pipe Thread
Drill and Cutting Lubricants
Drill Speed vs. Material
File Extinguishers
Sandpaper and Abrasives
Saws
Power Circular Hand Saws
Saber Saws
Capacities of Hydraulic Rams in Tons

Water
Friction Loss in Various Pipe
Friction Loss Tables
Friction Loss in Fittings
Suction, Head & Vapor Press vs. Altitude
Horizontal Pipe Discharge
Nozzle Discharge
Vertical Pipe Discharge
Weir Discharge Volumes
Horizontal Cylinder Fillage
Steam Table
Water Pollution
Water Hardness
Water Data & Formulas

Weights & Properties of Materials

Welding
Arc Electrodes - Mild Steel
Electrode Amperages
Electrodes - Low Allow Steel
Electrodes - Stainless Steel
Electrode Brand Conversion (Steel)
Gas Welding Rods
Welding Gases
Hard and Soft Solder Alloys
Solder Flux
Tempering Color for Steel

Conversion Tables

Perpetual Calendar

Index

Notes - Blank Pages and Rulers


YAY~!

Reading all about the characteristics of lumber right now~! :D

(Really - this is a fun read!)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on October 11, 2012, 09:49 AM
^^That sounds like a GREAT read!  I'm going to get it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on October 13, 2012, 10:00 PM
^^That sounds like a GREAT read!  I'm going to get it.

There are some tables that I get to and just have no clue about how to read them. But hey, it at least teaches me about just how ignorant I am, so that I know what I'm ignorant of, which gives me the chance to actually learn more about it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: sword on October 18, 2012, 03:59 PM
Dead Funny: Telling Jokes in Hitler's Germany / Rudolph Herzog, Melville House Publishing, July 2012 www.mhpbooks.com
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on October 18, 2012, 05:55 PM
Guitar Tone: Pursuing the Ultimate Guitar Sound by Mitch Gallagher of Sweetwater Sound.

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This is a big book (362 pages) loaded with solid information, analysis, and advice. If you're a guitarist or bass player, you'll want to read this book. If you're a performing guitarist or bass player, you need to read it.

So why this particular book? Simple answer: Mitch Gallagher.

If anybody is qualified to write a treatise on the elements (there are many) influencing the production of a unique guitar tone, it's Mitch Gallagher. He's with Sweetwater Sound - so his experience isn't limited to manufacturer demos and data sheets, or his own personal collection of products. Sweetwater sells this stuff. They're one of the world's premier distributors of professional musical instruments and equipment. And Mitch, as their editorial director, gets to see and seriously play with all these neat tools and toys. (Boy do I ever want his job!) Many musicians will be familiar with Mitch from YouTube where he is the host of the Sweetwater Minute instrument and equipment review videos. Great guy. And very knowledgeable. Here's his CV:

About the Author
Mitch Gallagher has been chasing guitar tone for more than 30 years. He toured as a lead guitarist/vocalist in rock and country bands and has played with big bands, with fusion and experimental music groups, and as a classical and steel-string guitar soloist. As a music technology specialist, he has taught college courses, lectured, given clinics, consulted with manufacturers, and spoken at festivals, conventions, and conferences around the world. His musical compositions cover genres from classical to experimental to heavy metal. His work Prophecy #1: At First Glance, an experimental percussion ensemble/synthesizer work based on the Fibonacci number series, received a 1991 NARAS (Grammy) award in the Best New Music/New Classical category. The former senior technical editor of Keyboard magazine and former editor-in-chief of EQ magazine, Mitch has published well over 1,000 articles in music, guitar, and recording publications. His monthly column, "Guitar Tracks," currently appears in Premier Guitar magazine. He appears in well over 100 YouTube videos. In addition to freelance writing and editing, he is an adjunct faculty member at Indiana University/Purdue University Fort Wayne; he operates The Sound Sauna/MAG Media Productions, a recording and mastering studio; and he is the editorial director for Sweetwater Sound in Fort Wayne, Indiana.


I can't really say I've read this book. More like I'm studying it. Much that's in it I'm already familiar with. (A few decades of experience in music will do that to you. :mrgreen:) But there's still a good deal of coverage on things I've only heard about - or have barely digested on my own. This book puts it all together in one well organized place.

Highly recommended! :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on October 19, 2012, 11:35 AM
Due to my upcoming move, I might soon have a few major updates here. I am going to attempt to inventory my sizable book collection as the prelim stage to paring it down. Basically only fatigue and my usual problems focusing stand in my way ... Ooh look, a new DC post!  :P

Edit: Miles' new widget over in the Transpose thread is proving to be insanely useful as I am trying to type some 400 authors and titles and all my typos are like 4-7 characters deep. : )

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on October 20, 2012, 01:08 PM
In the middle of my inventory, I discovered Alan Dean Foster's Codgerspace, about how a melted cheese sandwich proceeds to cause a factory to produce sentient machines. Hysterically silly fun : )

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mahesh2k on October 20, 2012, 03:03 PM
I was in halloween and fall mood for reading some illustrations and vintage books.

@40HZ, Have any suggestions on that?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on October 21, 2012, 01:33 PM
@mahesh2k - Not so much illustration or vintage, but some really good fall season choices:

Dragonfly (http://www.amazon.com/Dragonfly-Frederic-S-Durbin/dp/0441013384/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1350842920&sr=1-5&keywords=dragonfly) by Frederick S. Durbin. A Halloween themed coming of age story that is one of the best things I've read in a long time.

Then there's Ray Bradbury's classic Something Wicked this Way Comes (http://www.amazon.com/Something-Wicked-This-Way-Comes/dp/0380977273/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1350843177&sr=1-1&keywords=something+wicked+this+way+comes+by+ray+bradbury) and The October Country (http://www.amazon.com/October-Country-Ray-Bradbury/dp/0380973871/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1350843250&sr=1-1&keywords=october+country)

Also, for some reason I really can't say why, fall seems (to me) to be the ideal time to read (or reread) The Hobbit. I guess it's because Middle-earth always exists in a strange "forever autumn" whenever I visualize it in my mind.

And let's not forget Washington Irving's The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Few ever captured the essence of a northeastern autumn better than that story did. Even without the ghostly elements, the descriptions and imagery are spot on.

Ah...New England and the Hudson River Valley! Autumn is what makes it all worthwhile. Here's an iPhone shot taken from in front of my GF's house yesterday. It's not too spectacular a fall from a New Englander's perspective this year - but it's still quite lovely.

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 :-*
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mahesh2k on October 21, 2012, 03:56 PM
Thanks, going to take a look :)

Ah the perfect autumn.  :up:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on November 06, 2012, 03:05 AM
The Great European Rip-off: How the Corrupt, Wasteful EU is Taking Control of Our Lives by David Craig
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on November 06, 2012, 03:47 AM
...How the Corrupt, Wasteful EU is Taking Control of Our Lives...
Surely not?     ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 06, 2012, 06:02 AM
Sometimes the most useful books on a given topic weren't actually written about the topic itself. A good example is Scott McCloud's classic book Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art.

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Although ostensibly about the design and construction of "comic strips" (or what cartoonist Bill Eisner used to half-jokingly refer to as "sequential art") Scott's book is really a study in how we process visual information. It's also a crash course in how we construct continuity and closure from discrete images and sensory impressions. Students of gestalt psychology will feel right at home with the concepts presented in this book.

The book itself is self-referential in that it is a comic book that explains how comic books work. Scott does this through a series of fun head games. One example of how Scott presents things can be seen below:

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So why mention this on a computer tech oriented site?

Because this is one of the best books written about web page and website design. Probably offering more insights and practical advice than books specifically written for web designers.

Give it a read. Ponder it a bit. Then read it again and extrapolate.

This one is solid gold. :Thmbsup:




Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on November 06, 2012, 09:08 AM
Thanks 40!  I'm on it!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on November 06, 2012, 09:18 AM
Sometimes the most useful books on a given topic weren't actually written about the topic itself. A good example is Scott McCloud's classic book Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art.
 (see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=20287.msg305745#msg305745))
Although ostensibly about the design and construction of "comic strips" (or what cartoonist Bill Eisner used to half-jokingly refer to as "sequential art") Scott's book is really a study in how we process visual information. It's also a crash course in how we construct continuity and closure from discrete images and sensory impressions. Students of gestalt psychology will feel right at home with the concepts presented in this book.

There's a minor debate going on over at Gunnerkrigg Court comic by Tom Siddell (Which appears to be undergoing some kind of glitch!) where a sorta-random character named Ms. Jones turns out to be basically as old as the planet Earth, but it came through as about 3 weeks worth of wordless strips, so in his daily comments that he posts, a lot of users are getting grumpy asking for closure.
(Though right now something happened and it looks like the whole page got wiped.)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on November 06, 2012, 09:19 AM
P.S. I finished about as much as I wanted of my book index so I'll try to post that sorta-soon. (Meaning before I die!) :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 06, 2012, 11:36 AM
Thanks 40!  I'm on it!

Hey SB! I was hoping you spotted my post. Remember: comic strips are the poor man's motion picture studio. Yep! So says 40hz - and you heard him correctly. You can do much (if not most) of what you can do in a movie with a comic strip. In some cases more easily too.

Maybe that's why movies use storyboards (i.e. comic strips) during development - and comic strips can so easily (and often effectively) be made into decent movies.

:Thmbsup: 8) :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on November 06, 2012, 12:13 PM
Thanks 40!  I'm on it!

Hey SB! I was hoping you spotted my post. Remember: comic strips are the poor man's motion picture studio. Yep! So says 40hz - and you heard him correctly. You can do much (if not most) of what you can do in a movie with a comic strip. In some cases more easily too.

Maybe that's why movies use storyboards (i.e. comic strips) during development - and comic strips can so easily (and often effectively) be made into decent movies.

:Thmbsup: 8) :Thmbsup:

Right on, you read my mind.  I've been planning on how to do my first short film, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to utilize some comic book style shortcuts to make up for the fact that I am lacking in money, actors, and live footage, etc.  It will work.  I'll make up for the lack of pricey footage with strong story arcs and music-heavy ambiance.  But I'll have more ideas after going through a couple of these books.  It's a very slow, methodical process, I have to learn to be patient with myself without stagnating.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 06, 2012, 07:46 PM
@SB -  :) :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on November 07, 2012, 11:13 AM
Finished "The God Delusion", quite liked it - but it was preaching to the choir, of course :)

Next up: Huxley's "the doors of perception" & "heaven and hell".
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Martin_130286 on November 07, 2012, 12:01 PM
I don't tend to read many non-programming books, but here's a few I have read recently and really enjoyed.

Predictably Irrational (http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=predictably+irrational&sugexp=chrome,mod%3D1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=67400468213595846&sa=X&ei=GZiaUIODIam10QXo9YCYAg&ved=0CEAQ8wIwAQ)
Dan Ariely introduces a series of fascinating experiments he conducted on various groups of people to demonstrate that we all act irrationally, but often in quite a predictable way. He looks at things like why Starbucks decided to call their cup sizes tall, grande and venti. He also goes into the psychology of being paid vs. doing somebody a favour and how we react to 'free' things.

The Goal (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Goal-Process-Ongoing-Improvement/dp/0566086654)
This infamous book introduces TOC – The Theory of Constraints – and has been influential in business for a long time. It's written as a fictional novel, following the manager of a plant, Alex, as he tries to turn it around and save it from failure. Along the way Alex is helped by Jonah (who many believe to be the author in character form) who helps him understand the concept of systems thinking.

By the way, if you're not familiar with systems thinking, see this awesome short video from the late Russ Ackoff Beyond Continuous Improvement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqEeIG8aPPk)

The Thank You Economy (http://www.amazon.com/The-Thank-Economy-Gary-Vaynerchuk/dp/0061914185)
This book is super relevant to my startup and is authored by the amazing Gary Vaynerchuk. He's very inspirational and his book talks about the way business is changing in the world of social media and personal brands. He argues the case that business is coming back to "old town rules" where building real and meaningful relationships with every single user is how you get the edge. To quote him:

Listen to your users, absolutely. But giving a shit about your users is *way* better. People listen but they don't do *anything*. Doing something, answering those emails, giving a crap, caring about your user base – that's what you need to do.

I'm only about a fifth through this book, so I can't really review. But I don't need to to know Gary is totally right and I'm looking forward to reading the rest. Because he's so passionate when speaking, a few of my friends have recommended the audio version over the text, and apparently he ventures off into rants quite often, which sounds like it'd be entertaining :)

If you haven't heard of Gary Vaynerchuk, watch this 15 minute video immediately! Building Personal Brand Within the Social Media Landscape (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhqZ0RU95d4)

That's all I've got :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on November 07, 2012, 02:27 PM
Sound like good books Martin, thanks!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 07, 2012, 02:37 PM
@Martin - some really good stuff there. The Goal is a must read business text IMO. I've been an Elli Goldratt admirer since that book first came out. Pair it with some of Deming's books on management, and a copy of Heilbroner's The Worldly Philosophers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Worldly_Philosophers), and you have an MBA that fits on a bookshelf. :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Target on November 08, 2012, 05:55 PM
maybe not quite in the spirit of this thread, but this might be of interest

largehearted boy posted about the 'best book lists of 2012' here (http://www.largeheartedboy.com/blog/archive/2012/11/online_best_boo_98.html)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on November 16, 2012, 04:16 AM
In an effort to reduce the number of books around the abode, trying (again) to get through the following:

  • The Fabric of the Cosmos (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22435.The_Fabric_of_the_Cosmos)
  • de Bono's Thinking Course, Revised Edition (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/98482.de_Bono_s_Thinking_Course)
  • The Second Brain (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/636974.The_Second_Brain)

Finally made it through the first one -- it may be that the PBS 4-episode series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fabric_of_the_Cosmos#Adaptation) of the same name might help to watch in tandem.  I recommend at least the book to anyone who has an interest in physics  :up:

The second book is a typical de Bono book -- much food for reflection and testing but not the kind of thing that I find easy to read through.

The third book is very interesting but I'm finding it takes a lot more concentration and retention than I can easily generate and sustain.  What I read and understood felt worthwhile though.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on December 01, 2012, 09:31 AM
This is my listing of most of the tomes that I decided to discard when I moved. (It's not wholly correct - I did keep some of them, and I abandoned it after I had the general gist of what I was discarding. It was mainly as a reminder that I'd picked them up at various times for a reason as part of various projects and weekly interests.)

http://www.freevoteusa.com/BookDiscards.xls

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 19, 2013, 09:29 PM
Recent reads:

Brett Kelly's "Evernote Essentials"
Tarnsman of Gor, by John Norman
Cormac IV: Line of Polity, by Neal Asher
Life Form, by Alan Dean Foster   
A Shadow in Shummer, by Daniel Abraham
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on March 19, 2013, 09:51 PM
@k - Gor? Are those books still in print? ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 19, 2013, 10:54 PM
^I have all of them   ;D. No, they're out of print.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Darwin on March 21, 2013, 09:10 AM
The third book is very interesting but I'm finding it takes a lot


Perhaps you need a second brain to get through the third book?  :P
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on March 21, 2013, 09:59 AM
^I have all of them   ;D. No, they're out of print.

Well...the books did come out starting in the late 60s, which were a little more, shall we say..."receptive" to some notions than they are today? Annnnnd the social mores of Gor didn't exactly "fit in" with the cultural memes and moral climate even back in those considerably more liberal times. So I guess I'm not surprised they've since gone out of print.  ;D

The truth about Gor readers
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  ;)

Too bad in a way. Once you got past, or maybe just stopped drooling over (if that's your thing), the...um...kinky stuff, there were some very good ideas and storylines in some of the Gor books. Mostly the earlier ones since Norman started to go off the deep end a bit starting with installment #10: Tribesmen of Gor. At least in IMHO.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 21, 2013, 10:13 AM
the action scenes, specifically with regard to combat, are good. I may cease and desist if it gets too lurid. then again, I may increase my reading pace  ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on March 21, 2013, 10:22 AM
The third book is very interesting but I'm finding it takes a lot


Perhaps you need a second brain to get through the third book?  :P

He he -- good one :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on March 21, 2013, 10:55 AM
the action scenes, specifically with regard to combat, are good. I may cease and desist if it gets too lurid. then again, I may increase my reading pace  ;D

Well, a faster pace might explain the heavier breathing... :P ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: nidusin on March 21, 2013, 05:23 PM
If anyone wants easy, engaging reads that they CAN'T PUT DOWN I have a hearty recommendation here for:
Ernest Cline - Ready Player One.
"It’s the year 2044, and the real world is an ugly place.

Like most of humanity, Wade Watts escapes his grim surroundings by spending his waking hours jacked into the OASIS, a sprawling virtual utopia that lets you be anything you want to be, a place where you can live and play and fall in love on any of ten thousand planets.

And like most of humanity, Wade dreams of being the one to discover the ultimate lottery ticket that lies concealed within this virtual world. For somewhere inside this giant networked playground, OASIS creator James Halliday has hidden a series of fiendish puzzles that will yield massive fortune—and remarkable power—to whoever can unlock them." - http://www.readyplayerone.com/synopsis (http://www.readyplayerone.com/synopsis)

I've put half a dozen people onto this book and had rave replies from all. If you survived the eighties and are interested in tech and/or games you'll like it.

And
Jim Butcher - The Dresden Files
"
Harry Dresden – Wizard

Lost items found. Paranormal Investigations.
Consulting. Advice. Reasonable Rates.
No Love Potions, Endless Purses, or
Other Entertainment.
" - The sign on Harry's office door

This series really grabs you. Harry Dresden's sense of humor and sarcastic wit as he thwarts the forces of evil have given me more than my fair share of chuckles. Highly recommended.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 21, 2013, 05:37 PM
I have the Dresden Files but haven't yet begun to delve into them. You've sold me on "Ready Player One". I'll look into it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 27, 2013, 01:55 PM
Currently reading Kushiel's Dart, and Legacy of Kings (image below links to my GoodReads page):

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 27, 2013, 04:58 PM
For any fans of Cory Doctorow, I have over a dozen of his free e-books...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Shades on March 28, 2013, 03:46 PM
I am always interested in adding free ebooks to my collection. Should help battling boredom when waiting for the (second) bus that takes me home.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 28, 2013, 04:11 PM
Okay, I'm attaching a zip archive of 16 of Cory Doctorow's books. Most are in .mobi format, but three are .azw files (native Kindle format). If you have a Kindle or use a Kindle app of some sort, you're in good shape. Otherwise, there are converters out there, such as Hamster (http://www.hamstersoft.com/free-ebook-converter/), that can do conversion to different formats.

Here are the titles:

A Place so Foreign.MOBI
After the Siege.MOBI
All Complex Ecosystems Have Parasites.azw
Content.azw
Craphound.MOBI
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom.MOBI
Eastern Standard Tribe.MOBI
Ebooks_ Neither E, Nor Books.MOBI
Home Again, Home Again.MOBI
Little Brother.MOBI
Nimby and the Dimension Hoppers.MOBI
Overclocked.azw
Return to Pleasure Island.MOBI
Schnipsel.MOBI
Shadow of the Mothaship.MOBI
Super Man and the Bug Out.MOBI
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Shades on March 28, 2013, 05:26 PM
Thanks kyrathaba  :up:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 28, 2013, 05:35 PM
My pleasure  :up:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on March 28, 2013, 05:46 PM
The Scientific and Tech Doc Viewer at http://www.stdutility.com/ reads them all natively.

It's one reason in the discussion of "who do you like as a PDF viewer" I like that program, because it handles topics like this as a bonus! No icky conversions!

 :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 28, 2013, 05:58 PM
Good point, Tao.

Hey, is there an Android version of that Tech Doc Viewer?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: dspelley on March 28, 2013, 08:27 PM
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ] Rommel Drives on Deep Into Egypt (http://www.amazon.com/Rommel-Drives-Deep-Into-Egypt/dp/B000P412QM/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1364519668&sr=1-1&keywords=rommel+drives+on+deep+into+egypt)  

Re-reading this again. When I was first in college in the late 60's, I read all of his poems and novels.

The Affectionate Light Bulb
I have a 75 watt, glare free, long life
Harmony House light bulb in my toilet.
I have been living in the same apartment
for over two years now
and that bulb just keeps burning away.
I believe that it is fond of me.



[ You are not allowed to view attachments ] Plato and a Platypus Walk Into A Bar (http://www.amazon.com/Plato-Platypus-Walk-into-ebook/dp/B0015DPXN0/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1)  

Understanding Philosophy Through Jokes

Emotivism (in the spirit of the season)
A man wrote a letter to the IRS saying, "I have been unable to sleep knowing that I have cheated on my income tax. I have understated my taxable income and have enclosed a check for $150. If I still can't sleep, I will send the rest."
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on March 29, 2013, 05:40 AM
@TaoPhoenix: I tried out the Scientific and Text Doc Viewer (http://www.stdutility.com/) you referenced. Excellent program. Thanks for the tip!  :up:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on March 29, 2013, 08:33 AM
@TaoPhoenix: I tried out the Scientific and Text Doc Viewer (http://www.stdutility.com/) you referenced. Excellent program. Thanks for the tip!  :up:

You bet. I haven't really tried hard to build a list of mobile format books yet. It's just nice that when one does show up, it's readable.

Meanwhile: So we already have 7 document formats already, and they needed to invent 5 more for mobile?! Bleh.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on April 30, 2013, 03:20 PM
Transcript of Guy Gavriel Kay's responses to many readers in an interview on the Goodreads.com website on 4/30/2013:

 I will upload as .txt file...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on April 30, 2013, 04:43 PM
@kyrathababa - out of curiosity...what did you think of Kushiel's Dart?

I've had trouble making up my mind about that one. Even after a second read. :huh:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on April 30, 2013, 05:08 PM
@kyrathababa - out of curiosity...what did you think of Kushiel's Dart?

@40hz. To be honest, the author's prose is thickly woven, if you take my meaning. She's obviously got a huge vocabulary and is highly intelligent, but it's one of those novels you really have to concentrate on while reading. I have temporarily laid it aside at 12% done, in order to take up the ten-book Abyssal Plague (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=abyssal%20plague&sprefix=abyssal+pla%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aabyssal%20plague) series. I just started Under The Crimson Sun (http://www.amazon.com/Under-Crimson-Sun-Abyssal-Plague/dp/0786957972/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1367359425&sr=8-7&keywords=abyssal+plague), the 7th book. The correct reading order for this series is:

01. The Gates of Madness
02. The Mark of Nerath
03. The Temple of Yellow Skulls
04. Oath of Vigilance
05. The Eye of the Chained God
06. Sword of the Gods
07. Under The Crimson Sun
08. Shadowbane
09. Last Legend of Gedrin Shadowbane
10. Chosen of the Sword.

I'll have to get back to you on my final opinion of Kushiel's Dart. What did you think of it?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on April 30, 2013, 05:44 PM
I'll have to get back to you on my final opinion of Kushiel's Dart. What did you think of it?

"Purple prose" aside? (I have a large vocabulary and I very much like James Joyce and Henry James so I don't have a problem with dense writing styles.) Truth be told, I haven't decided if it's actually a clever fantasy story; or yet another example of an exercise in "grad school eroticism" masquerading as a scifi/fantasy novel.
 ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on April 30, 2013, 05:50 PM
From what I've gathered from the first three or four chapters, it's definitely eroticism, but with a veneer of fantasy. Having read it twice, can you tell me if it gets so engrossed in the eroticism that the story suffers? I don't want to read a Fifty Shades of Gray clone (albeit better written). I know that there are several more books in the Kushiel series.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on April 30, 2013, 06:06 PM
It's probably worth a read. As I said, I'm still not sure - and I haven't read the subsequent installments which fans have told me are better once you have the background in the first book to fall back on. It's not so much the erotic aspects (which I have no problem with if they're well written and have a good plot or storyline behind them) as I am with the fallen angel motif and (to me) the heavy lifting of societal concepts found in Zothique by Clark Ashton Smith.

I guess I'm saying I can't decide if it's actually good - or highly derivative.

re: 50 Shades of Gray

Read it and I'm not impressed. I found it rather predictable and juvenile. Other novelists have handled the subject far better, so I don't see what the big deal was for so many. Of course, there were people who thought 9-1/2 Weeks was a masterpiece, so no surprise there I suppose.

IMHO if you're going to write an erotic story - write a good erotic story. (It's a lot more difficult than it sounds.) 50 Shades never gets beyond kinky. And like Terry Pratchett observed: 'Erotic' uses a feather - 'kinky,' the entire chicken.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on April 30, 2013, 06:34 PM
re: 50 Shades of Gray

Read it and I'm not impressed. I found it rather predictable and juvenile.

I only read a few chapters of the first book before throwing it away. Crappily written for the ignorant masses. Thus, it appeals to the masses in the same way that all the poorly scripted,  overacted soap operas do.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: app103 on April 30, 2013, 07:58 PM
Starting on this, the next time my daughter kicks me off the computer.

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ] (http://www.amazon.com/The-Hunger-Games-Trilogy-Boxed/dp/0545265355/)

My daughter borrowed a box full of books from a friend of hers, and it will be awhile till she gets to these, so I am borrowing them from her for a bit.  :D

I saw the movie and liked it, and heard the book was so much better, so it's one of those things I feel compelled to read.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: allen on April 30, 2013, 10:17 PM
I'm reading Shattered Hourglass, the third (and hopefully final) book in the Day by Day Armageddon series. The first two books were great. It was all presented in diary format, from the POV so the story telling really was day by day and other than zombies walking around, it was depicted very believably. It was a fresh take on the genre.

Book 3 throws all of that out. Suddenly, it's omniscient third person narration with countless points of view, few of which are familiar characters from the previous books. What started as survival horror is now a mashup of government conspiracy, tactical shooter and science fiction. Yeah, there's aliens in it now.

Utter crap. But I've got to finish. . .
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on May 01, 2013, 07:29 AM
Book 3 throws all of that out. Suddenly, it's omniscient third person narration with countless points of view, few of which are familiar characters from the previous books. What started as survival horror is now a mashup of government conspiracy, tactical shooter and science fiction. Yeah, there's aliens in it now.

 :huh: Things like that make me wonder if the same author actually wrote it. Some publishers have this bad habit of convincing authors to franchise their name, and then supply a small team of writers to finish a series or write the half dozen sequels that follow the first two. :-\
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 01, 2013, 07:31 AM
There ought to be a law mandating disclosure when this is done.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on May 01, 2013, 07:39 AM
There ought to be a law mandating disclosure when this is done.

Should - but there probably never will be. The institution of 'ghostwriter' is too well established and understood that any attempt to characterize the practice as misleading, or a form of false advertising, would probably be dismissed as "unnecessary and excessive government regulation" by our enlightened legislatures.

Unless, of course, Amazon and/or B&N objected to the practice - since those two are rapidly becoming the gatekeepers and de facto arbiters of the 'printed' word in North America.
 8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on May 01, 2013, 07:50 AM
Just read a couple of books on Django in my ongoing quest to design the next best web framework..
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 01, 2013, 08:00 AM
Keep it up, mouser. Considering the mass adoption of Screenshot Captor, I believe you could do it. Man, what a LOT of work, though...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on May 01, 2013, 08:18 AM
Just read a couple of books on Django in my ongoing quest to design the next best web framework..

Maybe these guys can help!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22249490

 :P
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on May 01, 2013, 08:48 AM
Just read a couple of books on Django in my ongoing quest to design the next best web framework..

Maybe these guys can help!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22249490

 :P

^What's up with these Google AdSense robot pseudo-posts in the forums? :huh:

Something new DoCo is doing?


UPDATE:

Oops! Never mind. Just found the other thread discussing it.

I skipped reading it earlier because I personally despise most things Google.  ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on May 01, 2013, 09:00 AM
^What's up with these Google AdSense robot pseudo-posts in the forums? :huh:

Something new DoCo is doing?

see Google ad test (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=33823.0)
doesnt seem to be going very well... (scroll down to the screenshots)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on May 06, 2013, 12:35 PM
Reading SQL Antipatterns (http://www.amazon.com/SQL-Antipatterns-Programming-Pragmatic-Programmers/dp/1934356557):

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ] (http://www.amazon.com/SQL-Antipatterns-Programming-Pragmatic-Programmers/dp/1934356557)

Nice to read discussions of lots of dilemnas in database design, and a good balanced discussion of when you might bend the "good practice" rules, and why you might not want to..

My only dissapointment is there are no good solutions to many of these dilemmas (at least using an sql RDBMS), as I was hoping to discover :(
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on May 06, 2013, 01:41 PM
@mouser - Thx for finding that book!

I love SQL. Well...ok...maybe not love it. But I find it fun and very useful.

The real problem with SQL is "it is what it is" IMHO. Cobb had a design that proved inefficient to implement in all of it's mathematical majesty. So what we have for RDBMS systems is a compromise between his concept and our needing to do some useful things with it - but without getting needlessly bogged down in too much mathematic purity. SQL, by virtue of the fact it works with with the RDBMS model, inherits that same problem.

Maybe someday we'll have a better database model (and query language), and books like SQL Antipatterns won't be necessary any more. But I doubt it since they have yet to find a single database model that is a perfect fit for every case.

Now excuse me. I gotta go get me a copy of this book.  :Thmbsup: 8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Tuxman on May 06, 2013, 07:13 PM
I just started to read the Discworld series. Boring stuff, but I still need to find something better... my favorite authors are slow these days.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 06, 2013, 09:24 PM
I'm on book 8 of the 10-book Abyssal Plague series. Quite good, overall.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 08, 2013, 11:29 AM
I'm on the last book of the aforementioned Abyssal Plague series. Discovered I'd reported the reading-order in error. Here is the corrected reading-order:

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Post by: 40hz on May 08, 2013, 12:43 PM
C.S. Lewis. This time out I'm working through all his non-fiction titles. Again. :Thmbsup:

Awesome writer even if you don't agree with his philosophical and theological positions.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 08, 2013, 09:54 PM
+1 re Lewis.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on May 08, 2013, 11:32 PM
Just finished all 14 books of Andy McNab' Nick Stone (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_1?rh=n%3A283155%2Cn%3A17%2Cn%3A10134%2Cn%3A720360%2Ck%3Anick+stone+mcnab&keywords=nick+stone+mcnab&ie=UTF8&qid=1368073205) series, now onto Flashforward by Robert Sawyer.

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ] (http://www.amazon.com/FlashForward-ebook/dp/B003747252/)

Question for all you book nuts, anyone know where I can get ebook versions of L. P. Davies'w novels?

My dad has most of his in hardcover, so I can always go nick them, but I'd like to read them again, (it's some of the best sci-fi I've read), on my phone rather than cart a book around.

Actually, I should nick them anyway before they end up in an Op Shop.  :-\
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 09, 2013, 05:40 PM
@40hz: There's a new biography of C. S. Lewis out by Alister McGrath.

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http://www.thethoughtfulchristian.com/Products/9781613753798/c-s-lewis--a-life-eccentric-genius-reluctant-prophet.aspx (http://www.thethoughtfulchristian.com/Products/9781613753798/c-s-lewis--a-life-eccentric-genius-reluctant-prophet.aspx)

http://www.amazon.com/C-S-Lewis-Eccentric-Reluctant/dp/1414339356/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368139172&sr=8-1&keywords=eccentric+genius+reluctant+prophet (http://www.amazon.com/C-S-Lewis-Eccentric-Reluctant/dp/1414339356/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368139172&sr=8-1&keywords=eccentric+genius+reluctant+prophet)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on May 09, 2013, 07:34 PM
@k - thx for the heads up on  on that new bio. Looks really good! :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on May 13, 2013, 12:55 PM
From Pilgrim's recent post:

I was a prolific reader in those days and I very soon exhausted our own library, fortunately the Abbot gave me a special dispensation to go into the local town every couple of weeks to use the public library.

He considered me to be quite studious but it wasn't strictly true. In one of our unused storerooms I had found a big old copy of a commentary on the bible, you know the sort of thing, leather cover and a clasp to prevent it coming open. I cleaned it up and carried it everywhere but what he didn't know was that I had hollowed it out and used to use it for storing books by authors like Agatha Christie, G.K. Chesterton, and D.H. Lawrence, none of whom were on the order's list of required reading.

My visits to the public library carried on for some time but they sadly came to an end when I took out this young librarian.
:)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on May 13, 2013, 12:57 PM
Meanwhile I'm reading a few Maupassant short stories this week/month.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: dspelley on May 13, 2013, 08:15 PM
Burglars Can't Be Choosers (http://www.amazon.com/Burglars-Cant-Choosers-Lawrence-Block/dp/0060582553/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368493704&sr=8-1&keywords=burglars+can%27t+be+choosers)

First in the entertaining Bernie Rhodenbarrr "Burglar" series.

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Post by: TaoPhoenix on June 04, 2013, 08:49 PM
Learning made fun:
"I am a bug" - notes on software development and other tech activities.

http://www.amibug.com/iamabug/p01.html

Because:
1. Adorable pictures for the "Executive Summary" when you are too tired to think.
2. Nice "pop-up" explanations for when you can feel like reading actual ... words! (gasp!) But still broad enough for non-programmers like me!
3. Give it to a child without the software stuff - the power of subversive learning: priceless!
8)



Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on June 05, 2013, 07:43 AM
Finished the 10-book Abyssal Plague series, and since then have read all 10 T. H. Lain books, ending with The Death Ray.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on June 05, 2013, 11:05 AM
Just finished Clive Barker's Tortured Souls: The Legend of Primordium - a series of six short stories released as individual chapters packaged with an action figure. I thank my friend Mike for letting me borrow his collection (sans figures) to read.

If you're a fan of Clive Barker, or just curious to delve into more of the vision that produced the Cenobites and the Hellraiser universe, this is a disturbing addition to the corpus.

Cautionary note: Mssr. Barker has both a vision, and a very good descriptive handle, on a dark realm of absolute evil and those that call it home. Clive's bad guys go well beyond the baddest of the bad. We are talking stark satanic evil here. Not for the faint hearted or those who are easily shocked. I'm fairly hardheaded when it comes to fiction since I know it's just a story. But some of Clive's scenes and concepts even I found to be more than a little disturbing. Reader discretion advised.

Here's an excerpt (http://fyeahclivebarker.tumblr.com/post/18377391668/excerpts-the-legend-of-primordium-clive-barker) from the first book. It deals with a character called Agonistes. It is implied (though never stated) that Agonistes is the creator of the Cenobites found in Hellraiser. Those who follow the Hellraiser series will probably recognize him/her/it as the enigmatic creature the Cenobites call The Engineer.
 :tellme:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: app103 on June 05, 2013, 03:03 PM
I am reading the Connie Francis autobiography "Who's Sorry Now? (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312870884/)" which I am not sure why I even own it, but I can't get rid of it to make room on my bookshelf for something else until I have read it, so I am. So far, I'd rate it as a great cure for insomnia, with more fluff than my pillow.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on June 05, 2013, 05:31 PM
Thanks for that excerpt, 40. I have the Hellraiser books (haven't read yet). Mental note: read "Tortured Souls: The Legend of Primordium" after the Hellraiser books.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on June 14, 2013, 02:28 PM
Just finished the first book of the Mistborn trilogy by Brandon Sanderson.  Really slick magic system and a neatly developed world.  Onward with the second book...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on June 14, 2013, 03:48 PM
Yep, it's a great series. He has a new one out called (IIRC) The Rithmatist.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on June 14, 2013, 07:54 PM
Yep, it's a great series. He has a new one out called (IIRC) The Rithmatist.

Yep, and another one due out in September called Steelheart.

http://www.amazon.com/Steelheart-Brandon-Sanderson/dp/0385743564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371167437&sr=8-1
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on June 14, 2013, 10:19 PM
Our mind is capable of passing beyond the dividing line we have drawn for it. Beyond the pairs of opposites of which the world consists, other, new insights begin. - Hermann Hesse
---------------------------------

Almost finished rereading four books I originally read back in high school when I was on a Hermann Hesse kick:

Steppenwolf
Demian
Journey to the East
The Glass Bead Game


All excellent and (except for The Glass Bead Game) very fast reads. I still love this passage (especially the last two sentences) from the fictitious Treatise on the Steppenwolf found within the Steppenwolf story:

Now what we call "bourgeois," when regarded as an element always to be found in human life, is nothing else than the search for a balance. It is the striving after a mean between the countless extremes and opposites that arise in human conduct.

If we take any one of these coupled opposites, such as piety and profligacy, the analogy is immediately comprehensible. It is open to a man to give himself up wholly to spiritual views, to seeking after God, to the ideal of saintliness. On the other hand, he can equally give himself up entirely to the life of instinct, to the lusts of the flesh, and so direct all his efforts to the attainment of momentary pleasures. The one path leads to the saint, to the martyrdom of the spirit and surrender to God. The other path leads to the profligate, to the martyrdom of the flesh, the surrender to corruption.

Now it is between the two, in the middle of the road, that the bourgeois seeks to walk. He will never surrender himself either to lust or to asceticism. He will never be a martyr or agree to his own destruction. On the contrary, his ideal is not to give up but to maintain his own identity. He strives neither for the saintly nor its opposite. The absolute is his abhorrence. He may be ready to serve God, but not by giving up the fleshpots. He is ready to be virtuous, but likes to be easy and comfortable in this world as well. In short, his aim is to make a home for himself between two extremes in a temperate zone without violent storms and tempests; and in this he succeeds though it be at the cost of that intensity of life and feeling which an extreme life affords. A man cannot live intensely except at the cost of the self.

Now the bourgeois treasures nothing more highly than the self (rudimentary as his may be). And so at the cost of intensity he achieves his own preservation and security. His harvest is a quiet mind which he prefers to being possessed by God, as he does comfort to pleasure, convenience to liberty, and a pleasant temperature to that deathly inner consuming fire. The bourgeois is consequently by nature a creature of weak impulses, anxious, fearful of giving himself away and easy to rule. Therefore, he has substituted majority for power, law for force, and the polling booth for responsibility.  


:Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 19, 2013, 02:44 AM
http://www.amazon.com/The-Betrayed-Lost-Words-ebook/dp/B007VXJH8U/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1371627570&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Betrayed+igor+ljubuncic

free till midnight June 21
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on June 19, 2013, 07:43 AM
Thanks for the link, panzer  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on June 19, 2013, 08:00 AM
I'm currently reading Kyrathaba Rising and enjoying it very much. :Thmbsup:

Check it out here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=35166.0).  8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on June 19, 2013, 09:17 AM
 ;D

Thanks for the plug, 40hz!

Just uploaded new revision, in the OP (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=35166.msg328376#msg328376), containing Chapter 11. The novel's about 40% done at this point. Of course, there will be a sequel. Maybe a trilogy.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on June 23, 2013, 04:44 AM
;D

Thanks for the plug, 40hz!

Just uploaded new revision, in the OP (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=35166.msg328376#msg328376), containing Chapter 11. The novel's about 40% done at this point. Of course, there will be a sequel. Maybe a trilogy.
Just a newbie question : how to I load it onto my Kindle.  I can transfer files using either the cable or an e-mail attachement using a special address, but I don't know which format to use, should I convert one of the included files ?  If yes, with which tool.  Thanks !!!

Edited : issue solved, I sent the .mobi file as an e-mail attachment to my kindle address and it worked perfectly.  I am really looking forward discovering this book...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on June 23, 2013, 07:12 AM
MerleOne, hope you enjoy! I've written up through chapter 15: that's approximately half the book.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on June 23, 2013, 07:21 AM
MerleOne, hope you enjoy! I've written up through chapter 15: that's approximately half the book.
Thanks for giving us the opportunity to discover your work !
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: CleverCat on June 24, 2013, 02:39 AM
If you love History try Edward Rutherfurd's books!

I've read New York, London and am now reading The New Forest.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 24, 2013, 04:12 AM
Edward Griffin: The Creature from Jekyll Island
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: allen on June 27, 2013, 09:18 AM
Just about done with Artificial Absolutes (http://www.amazon.com/Artificial-Absolutes-Mary-Fan/dp/1482320347/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372342647&sr=8-1&keywords=artificial+absolutes). It's an easy read, often quite predictable, but a fun little cyberpunk adventure.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tiaross on July 19, 2013, 06:19 AM
The monk who sold his Ferrari
Wings
Memoirs of a Geisha
The Love Story
The Lost Horizon

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on July 19, 2013, 06:27 AM
Re-reading "Shards of Honor" by Lois McMaster Bujold, the first volume of the Vorkosigan saga.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Ampa on July 19, 2013, 06:49 AM
Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift : It might be almost 300 years old but Swift's satire of the human condition and ridiculing of the body politic still feel fresh as a daisy. Although a little uneven in pacing it is frequently laugh out loud funny and even thought provoking.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on July 19, 2013, 06:51 AM
Ampla: It's great to see you post -- it's been a few months hasn't it?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on July 19, 2013, 07:23 AM
I just finished reading "Industrial Society and Its Future" again. :P

Has anyone else read it?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on August 02, 2013, 05:41 AM
Just finished The Last Sherlock Holmes Story (http://www.amazon.com/Sherlock-Holmes-Story-Michael-Dibdin/dp/0345280679):

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Good twist on some of the events of the time and other Holmes stories.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on August 05, 2013, 10:42 AM
I've finally started reading "Tragedy and Hope" by Carroll Quigley:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/Tragedy_And_Hope_By_Carroll_Quigley.png)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_And_Hope

You can download it for free here:

http://archive.org/details/TragedyAndHope_501

I've heard and read a lot about it, and it sounds fascinating.

It will take me a while as it's around 1,300 pages. So far, it's really good. Extremely well written and simply packed with information.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on August 05, 2013, 07:39 PM
Just a newbie question : how to I load it onto my Kindle.  I can transfer files using either the cable or an e-mail attachement using a special address, but I don't know which format to use, should I convert one of the included files ?  If yes, with which tool.  Thanks !!!

Edited : issue solved, I sent the .mobi file as an e-mail attachment to my kindle address and it worked perfectly.  I am really looking forward discovering this book...

Also, if you plug your Kindle into your PC, then click on the Kindle drive icon that appears, you can copy a mobi file into the /documents/ directory and it'll show up on your Kindle.





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I just finished Knightfall (http://williambryanmiller.com/?p=271) by Robert Jackson-Lawrence. Excellent read, especially for a debut novel. I think the guy has real talent. I sent him 46 typographical errors that his U.K. proofreading company (which probably charged him an arm and a leg) overlooked. Now he plans to hire me (http://williambryanmiller.com/?page_id=177) to proofread books 2 and 3 of the trilogy :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on August 05, 2013, 10:19 PM
I've finally started reading "Tragedy and Hope" by Carroll Quigley:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/Tragedy_And_Hope_By_Carroll_Quigley.png)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_And_Hope

You can download it for free here:

http://archive.org/details/TragedyAndHope_501

I've heard and read a lot about it, and it sounds fascinating.

It will take me a while as it's around 1,300 pages. So far, it's really good. Extremely well written and simply packed with information.
good luck with that one!  i've skimmed through it a couple of times, really interesting.  i wish i could find more online academic debates for the book instead of the conspiracy-focused thoughts people usually write about it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on August 06, 2013, 12:52 AM
good luck with that one!  i've skimmed through it a couple of times, really interesting.  i wish i could find more online academic debates for the book instead of the conspiracy-focused thoughts people usually write about it.

"Academics" do not participate in anything that has not been accepted by the establishment and avoid the appearance of controversy. Well, unless... I'll skip that part... :P

If you'd like some really deep, bleeding-edge, uber-controversial, socially unacceptable "conspiracy" stuff that's so wild that it can quite literally get you thrown in prison, read the front page of the January 2nd, 1945 New York Times. :P (I'm not kidding.)

If you dig enough into history, you're going to find some very uncomfortable and inconvenient facts.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on August 06, 2013, 02:54 AM

... read the front page of the January 2nd, 1945 New York Times. :P (I'm not kidding.)

...

Just asking : how to you get to read that edition ? Might not be easy...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on August 06, 2013, 04:39 AM
Not sure how trustworthy this version is (it's transcribed)
http://ufoupdateslist.com/1998/jul/m15-022.shtml
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on August 06, 2013, 04:42 AM
Not sure how trustworthy this version is (it's transcribed)
http://ufoupdateslist.com/1998/jul/m15-022.shtml

Thanks.  I fail to see how I could get to jail by reading this.  Unless it's an alien jail and I get abducted...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on August 06, 2013, 05:02 AM
Bagus: The Tragedy of the Euro
Pdf version is free: http://mises.org/document/6045/
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on August 06, 2013, 05:22 AM
Not sure how trustworthy this version is (it's transcribed)
http://ufoupdateslist.com/1998/jul/m15-022.shtml

That's not it.

Thanks.  I fail to see how I could get to jail by reading this.  Unless it's an alien jail and I get abducted...

That's not what I was referring to.

I'll confirm if someone posts, but I won't post it myself. Yes. It's that likely to start fights and quickly degenerate into complete chaos and name calling. It's impossible to look at the facts and reconcile them with popular belief.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on August 06, 2013, 05:28 AM
Bagus: The Tragedy of the Euro
Pdf version is free: http://mises.org/document/6045/

thanks for that.
FWIW I've tried to understand economics - mainly Keynesian vs. Austrian - a little better, but people seem to believe one or that other 100% and that's it. Make's it difficult for the noob ;-) Anyways, looking forward to reading that :up:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on August 06, 2013, 06:34 AM
Bagus: The Tragedy of the Euro
Pdf version is free: http://mises.org/document/6045/

Do post back your thoughts on that. I'd like to hear. My reading load is a bit heavy at the moment. (Tragedy and Hope is my "fun" reading.)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on August 07, 2013, 03:29 AM
Bagus: The Tragedy of the Euro
Pdf version is free: http://mises.org/document/6045/

Do post back your thoughts on that. I'd like to hear. My reading load is a bit heavy at the moment. (Tragedy and Hope is my "fun" reading.)



I liked it. No nonsense included - less than 200 pages. Explains why Euro was created in the first place and why the current system is flawed.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on August 07, 2013, 03:40 AM
Bagus: The Tragedy of the Euro
Pdf version is free: http://mises.org/document/6045/

thanks for that.
FWIW I've tried to understand economics - mainly Keynesian vs. Austrian - a little better, but people seem to believe one or that other 100% and that's it. Make's it difficult for the noob ;-) Anyways, looking forward to reading that :up:

If I would have to choose, I would go for Austrian School.
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Post by: Renegade on August 07, 2013, 04:17 AM
I liked it. No nonsense included - less than 200 pages.

Ah! That's good! Far too many books just blather on with complete nonsense that just wastes your time. I really like when they just cut to the chase and get to the point.

I might just take a detour to browse through it.

Explains why Euro was created in the first place and why the current system is flawed.

Heheehe! ;D I'm tempted, but I'll keep the cynicism out. ;)  (I've got a rather dim/dark/cynical view of the Euro and the motivations/justifications/rationalisations for it.)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on August 13, 2013, 03:26 AM
Bandulet: Last years of the Euro
Short book about how it came that the Germans were dupped (and by whom) to gave up the D-Mark.
http://www.amazon.de/Die-letzten-Jahre-Euro-Deutschen/dp/3942016354/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1376382536&sr=1-3&keywords=bandulet

Deutsch: The Silver Conspiracy
What you should know about trading with the silver in the past and present.
http://www.amazon.de/b%C3%BCcher/dp/3938516267

Carter: The Education of Little Tree
Excellent book about young Indian, who lost both his parents. He was adopted by his grandparents, which taught him about the Indian way of life and how they perceive it. Highly recommended. (It was thought that this book was an autobiography, but it was later revealed that it was written by a Ku Klux Klan leader. Bizarre or what?)
http://www.amazon.com/Education-Little-Tree-Forrest-Carter/dp/0826328091
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on September 09, 2013, 05:23 AM
Kaiser: Interventionism and misery: 1929-2008
How governments and central banks ruined the world and why the worst is still to come
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on September 09, 2013, 05:38 AM
I liked it. No nonsense included - less than 200 pages.

Ah! That's good! Far too many books just blather on with complete nonsense that just wastes your time. I really like when they just cut to the chase and get to the point.

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Heh I often like to go the other way, because sometimes short books glaze over the stuff "without doing any work". I made a small joke I called the "500 page club" - if the author has to fill much more space, then it's more likely there are some nice juicy details in there!

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on September 09, 2013, 07:50 AM
Last few books I've read:

Return of the Damned, by T. H. Lain
Tower of Glass, by Robert Silverberg
The Death Ray, by T. H. Lain
1 and 11 Corinthians
Making great ebooks with Jutoh, br Dr. Julian Smart
Smashwords Publishing Guide, by Mark Coker
The Embedding,  by Ian Watson
The Ogre's Pact, by Troy Denning
Galatians
Ephesians
Philippians
Let's Get Digital: How to Self-Publish, and Why You Should, by David Gaughran
Colossians
Secrets To E-book Publishing Success,  by Mark Coker
1 Thessalonians
2 Thessalonians
Smashwords Book Marketing Guide,  by Mark Coker
1 Timothy
2 Timothy
Facebook Marketing for Ebook Authors,  by John Kremer
Titus
Philemon
The Giant Among Us, by Troy Denning
Knightfall,  by Robert Jackson-Lawrence
Hebrews
James
1 Peter
Darkest Before Dawn, by Robert Jackson-Lawrence
2 Peter
Kevin Adams -- Serial Killer,  by Clifton Goetzee
Titan of Twilight, by Troy Denning
1 John
Colony Earth, by Regina M. Joseph
2 John
3 John
Jude
Ill-Fated, by Evelyn Ink
Hero for Hire, by C. B. Pratt

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on September 12, 2013, 07:38 PM
Just finished a highly entertaining novel that felt a lot like a Robert Asprin fantasy novel: "The Road to Magic (Book One of The Way of the Demon)" by Alexey Glushanovsky.

It's $2.99 for the Kindle e-book.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on September 17, 2013, 07:08 AM
Krugman: End This Depression Now!
Craig, Elliot: The Great European Rip-off: How the Corrupt, Wasteful EU is Taking Control of
Our Lives
Taleb: The Black Swan
Beckett: The Chemistry of Death
Sirico: Defending the Free Market: The Moral Case for a Free Economy
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on September 17, 2013, 10:51 AM
Finished David Drake's "Northworld". Now reading the 2nd novel in the trilogy, "Vengeance". Good sci-fi written in the early 90s.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on September 21, 2013, 12:41 AM

Interesting things result from reading Galatians 4:24 followed by Ezekiel 23:20!
:D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on September 21, 2013, 12:48 AM
Meanwhile I am reading Great Moments in Modern Chess by Reuben Fine ... from 1948! That was when chess was fresh and new, and WWII was an important recent concluding episode.

It is also early enough that some of the games actually played out the tropes that are unstated in "today's" games.

Edit: For example, Reuben Fine really pays Dr. Max Euwe much greater respect than he is usually given in current chess circles. 1948 was just early enough before Botvinnik pulverized the chess world, so R. Fine reports "from the time" that Euwe was well respected in his day as a solid GM. (Today too many authors take the cheapo shot that he was the "junk champion" between Alekhine and Botvinnik.)

It was also just before how stunning the rise of the USSR would be in chess - for various reasons the Russians were not around for a lot of events in the 1930's, and the US was the "second best country" winning all the events. Alekhine was what he was, but Botvinnik signalled that the Soviet govt support of chess was going to have an effect, and it wasn't until Fischer that anyone else was in the same league.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on September 21, 2013, 10:15 AM
Reading the concluding book, "Justice", in David Drake's "Northworld" trilogy.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Attronarch on September 21, 2013, 02:08 PM
Currently I'm going through the following:


I'm hopping to follow up with R in a Nutshell and R Cookbook.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on December 02, 2013, 10:33 AM
Margrit Kennedy: Interest and Inflation Free Money:
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~roehrigw/kennedy/english/Interest-and-inflation-free-money.pdf
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 02, 2013, 12:47 PM
Terry Maggert's "The Forest Bull"
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 03, 2013, 02:46 PM
Lovecraft Unbound (http://www.amazon.com/Lovecraft-Unbound-Ellen-Datlow/dp/1595821465/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386101994&sr=8-1&keywords=lovecraft+unbound) - an anthology of deliberately modern treatments of Lovecraftian themes, selected and edited by Ellen Datlow.

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A 'not bad' collection of new (as in 'inspired by') Lovecraft tales - with some real gems mixed in.

If you're looking for classic Lovecraft, you won't find it here. These are Lovecraft themed stories. Not pastiches or attempts to write a Mythos tale as Lovecraft himself might have written it.

Especially good were Leng by Marc Laidlow; The Crevasse by Dale Bailey and Nathan Ballingrud; Cold Water Survival by Holly Phillips; the absolutely brilliant Houses Under the Sea by (no surprise) Caitlin R. Kiernan. Best however was Sarah Monette and Elizabeth Bear's Mongoose, which is easily the cleverest and most original story in the collection.

Unexpectedly disappointing was long-time Lovecraft admirer Joyce Carol Oates' blatant reworking of the twist in her famous story The Lottery. Ms. Joyce (who we know can write extremely well) provides us only a lame and overly obvious piece called: Commencement.

All in all...not bad.

But I still think the original works of Lovecraft (and some of his circle of contemporaries) were far better.

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(So does Cthulhu!)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: superboyac on December 03, 2013, 03:09 PM
ok...40hz...what is the source of that awesome Cthulhu illustration?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 03, 2013, 03:54 PM
ok...40hz...what is the source of that awesome Cthulhu illustration?

Google! :)

I've seen it called either Office Space Cthulhu or "Chtulhu wants you to use a spell check."

 8)
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Post by: superboyac on December 03, 2013, 04:36 PM
Office Space Cthulhu
Hmm...I'd like to know who the artist is, it's a really nice piece of art.

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Ah!  You can see it on the bottom if you zoom in.  Michael Dashow.
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more...
He's great!
http://www.michaeldashow.com/illustration.html
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Post by: 40hz on December 04, 2013, 09:05 AM
Black Wings of Cthulhu - 21 Tales of Lovecraftian Horror (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Wings-Cthulhu-Lovecraftian-Horror/dp/0857687824/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386169622&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=blackwings+of+cthulhu) edited by S.T. Joshi.

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Once again a compendium of modern writing inspired by the characters and themes of H.P. Lovecraft. (I'm on a Mythos binge lately in case nobody's noticed.)

And once again a mixed bag of offerings. Of the twenty-one tales Caitlin Kiernan's Pickman's Other Model (1929) is easily the best of the lot, closely followed by Howling in the Dark by Darrell Schweitzer; and Tempting Providence by Jonathan Thomas.

Less successful (purely as Mythos-inspired tales) but still enjoyable are Ramsey Campbell's The Correspondence of Cameron Thaddeus Nash; and Passing Spirits by Sam Gafford.

Norman Partridge's Lesser Demons, a PA/Mythos mashup, didn't work for me at all. If you pulled out the one tiny allusion to the Mythos found in Lesser Demons, it would read just like any other 'PA narrated from a lone survivor perspective' yarn.

Another flop (IMO) was scifi master Brian Stableford's The Truth About Pickman. Not because it wasn't well written. (It was.) Not because it didn't have a good premise and a solid plot. (It did.) But despite all that, it still missed the boat because Mssr. Stableford makes the mistake far too many writers do when tackling a Lovecraft-type story: They explain far too much!

The real joy of Lovecraft is how he leaves you with a sense of awe and mystery. And always wanting just a little more. Unexplained bumps in the night go largely unexplained. Mysterious texts are alluded to (sometimes even briefly quoted from) but never shown in full. And although Lovecraft may drop dots all over the landscape, he never explicitly connects them. Or gives his reader every dot to work with.

It's a subtle art - giving the reader just enough to go on - but not enough to completely work things out. And that sort of literary miracle working is Lovecraft's art and legacy. Modern horror writers could learn something here if they could just stop hoping for a movie deal long enough to write a good horror novel rather than something that's merely ok but can easily be adapted to film. Film is all about 'visual' whereas Lovecraft and the classic horror genre (as opposed to splatter-shock) is largely about things largely left unseen.

Good book overall. Worth a read if you're an H.P. fan. And the short story format is perfect for trips or when stuck at boring gatherings.

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Post by: kyrathaba on December 08, 2013, 04:40 PM
"Do I Bother You At Night?" by Troy Ratliff.
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Post by: panzer on December 17, 2013, 03:36 AM
Free for limited time:
http://www.thelostwordsbooks.com/2013/12/14/holiday-gifts-free-books/#more
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Post by: mouser on December 17, 2013, 12:44 PM
For those of you into the Cthulhu mythos, there is a really good new board game set in that world, Eldritch Horror:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/146021/eldritch-horror
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Post by: Redhat on December 17, 2013, 02:11 PM
I don't know how much non-fiction is appreciated around here, but I'm just starting this...  :Thmbsup:

Civilisation - Niall Ferguson
Winner of the Estoril Global Issues Distinguished Book Prize 2013 Niall Ferguson's Civilization: The Six Killer Apps of Western Power is a vital, brilliant look at the winning tools of power. In 1412, Europe was a miserable backwater ravaged by plague, bad sanitation and incessant war, while the Orient was home to dazzling civilizations. So how did the West come to dominate the Rest? In this vital, brilliant book, selected as a Daily Telegraph Book of the Year, Niall Ferguson reveals the 'killer applications' that did it: competition - How Europe's small, piratical states built modern capitalism; science - How innovation gave the West the military edge; property rights - How the laws of private property built the United States; medicine - How colonialism transformed the world's health; the consumer society - How shopping made the industrial revolution; and the work ethic - How Western religious ideas brought it all together. But has the West now lost its monopoly on these six things? Or is this the end of Western ascendancy? "A dazzling history of Western ideas ...epic". (Economist). "Vivid and fascinating". (Daily Telegraph). "Superb ...brings history alive ...dazzling".

http://www.foyles.co.uk/witem/business/civilization-the-six-killer-apps-of,niall-ferguson-9780141044583
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Post by: tomos on December 17, 2013, 03:58 PM
Civilisation - Niall Ferguson

sounds very interesting - would be great to hear what you think of it when you get through it!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 17, 2013, 04:53 PM
I played Cthulhu some in college. Loved it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on December 28, 2013, 02:18 AM
Moyes: Me Before You
Boyne: The Terrible Thing That Happened to Barnaby Brocket
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 28, 2013, 09:35 AM
I'm reading Tagged: The Apocalypse, by Joseph Chiron. Actually,  proofreading it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on February 28, 2014, 03:51 PM
Looks like Meg Russof's book How I Live Now, which I previously recommended here (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=20287.msg183989#msg183989), is coming to the screen:



Be interesting to see how closely it follows the book - no that there's any reason why it can't. The movie Elizabeth looks a little healthier than I imagined the book character to be. (In the book, she doesn't care to eat beyond absolute necessity for two reasons: (1) it drives her parents crazy; (2) she "kinda likes" the sensation of feeling very hungry.)

Could be worth seeing...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on February 28, 2014, 10:03 PM
I recently read "Irrefutable Proof" by Abby Vandiver. I don't recommend it.

I'm currently reading The Towers of the Sunset by L. E. Modesett, Jr.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: skwire on February 28, 2014, 10:24 PM
I'm currently reading The Towers of the Sunset by L. E. Modesett, Jr.

Nice!  I loved The Saga of Recluce series.  Wonderful books.   :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on February 28, 2014, 10:59 PM
Just finishing up: "Biological Learning and Control: How the Brain Builds Representations, Predicts Events, and Makes Decisions" By Reza Shadmehr and Sandro Mussa-Ivaldi

Not as good as I hoped from the table of contents -- nothing really new.  At least it moves the ball forward slightly in terms of identifying control topics that need addressing.

http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/biological-learning-and-control

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Post by: skwire on February 28, 2014, 11:41 PM
Just finishing up: "Biological Learning and Control: How the Brain Builds Representations, Predicts Events, and Makes Decisions" By Reza Shadmehr and Sandro Mussa-Ivaldi

So, mouser, when are you going to graduate from reading kiddie books and get into some good sci-fi or fantasy?    :P
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on March 04, 2014, 12:00 PM
I'm happy to be done with "How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed (http://www.amazon.com/How-Create-Mind-Thought-Revealed/dp/0143124048)" by Ray Kurzweil

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You can file this one away as another famous narcissist with money getting more famous with a self-indulgent book that is mostly empty of insight and full of self promotion. Blech. Terrible.
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Post by: 40hz on March 04, 2014, 01:27 PM
I'm happy to be done with "How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed (http://www.amazon.com/How-Create-Mind-Thought-Revealed/dp/0143124048)" by Ray Kurzweil

You can file this one away as another famous narcissist with money getting more famous with a self-indulgent book that is mostly empty of insight and full of self promotion. Blech. Terrible.

Blech?

Terrible?

You're far too kind. For some reason the phrase "sucks out loud" keeps popping into my head every time I think back on reading that book.
 ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on March 04, 2014, 01:54 PM
Mysteries of the Middle Ages: And the Beginning of the Modern World (http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0385495560/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link) by Thomas Cahill.

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It's a very literate and personal examination of the people, places and things in the middle ages that had a profound and lasting impact on the subsequent social and intellectual development of Western Europe. Chatty in places, and quite funny at times, it goes a long way towards helping people get some insight into the medieval mindset. Important because the people of that period's minds worked and interpreted their world very differently than the minds of today. In some respects, until you can get into their heads, very little of the Middle Ages makes much sense or appears very civilized. However, once you do get your head around where these people were coming from, and their reasons for doing things, you can then see the Middle Ages as an extremely sophisticated and vibrant culture. One that has a far greater continuing influence on our world than our modern weltanschauung's bias towards the Renaissance and The Enlightenment would care to admit.

Nicely illustrated with faux-illuminated chapter pages, maps, and famous artworks. And the superb typography and paper quality are an unexpected surprise in this era of expensive (albeit cheaply made) trade paperbacks.

Some examples here if anybody cares to see:

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A fun and interesting read. Recommended! :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: x16wda on March 04, 2014, 09:06 PM
Just reread The Demolished Man (Alfred Bester)... it was shorter than I remembered. Next will be The Werewolf Principle (Clifford Simak) and then Neuromancer (William Gibson), and then the Ray Feist series that starts with Magician: Apprentice and runs through A Darkness At Sethanon.

(I had a hankering to reread Neuromancer, and stumbled across a box of oldies in the attic. Treasure -- it also contained some of my Dad's old Ace Doubles that me and my brothers found in his attic lo these many years ago!)

After these I'll start a Neal Stephenson series (Quicksilver is book 1)... I was looking for Snow Crash but found this instead.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on March 05, 2014, 03:59 AM
I'm happy to be done with "How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed (http://www.amazon.com/How-Create-Mind-Thought-Revealed/dp/0143124048)" by Ray Kurzweil

You can file this one away as another famous narcissist with money getting more famous with a self-indulgent book that is mostly empty of insight and full of self promotion. Blech. Terrible.

Blech?

Terrible?

You're far too kind. For some reason the phrase "sucks out loud" keeps popping into my head every time I think back on reading that book.
 ;D

I dunno. Even books that "repeat" stuff have value for me. Let's say you begin to suspect that it's like that ... then just skim it. Then you can just learn the few new nuances.  Going sideways this is the true key to that old "Library vs Purchase" discussion - you borrow the Kurzweil book, make your ten pages of new notes, and then give it back. For a really good book, you buy it because you plan to want to look at it for a long time!



Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on March 07, 2014, 09:29 AM
Just finished Les Valiant's book "Probably Approximately Correct: Nature’s Algorithms for Learning and Prospering in a Complex World (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465032710)".
Sorry to say, another crap book almost devoid of useful content.  Could be boiled down to a 5 page paper without loss.

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Valiant's past contribution to machine learning was a useful way of formalizing some guarantees about a class of "Probably, Approximately Correct (PAC)" algorithms.  His attempt at branding that as a theory of intelligence falls painfully short.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: allen on March 07, 2014, 03:24 PM
Just finished Tread Lightly: Form, Footwear, and the Quest for Injury-Free Running (http://www.amazon.com/Tread-Lightly-Footwear-Injury-Free-Running-ebook/dp/B00872J5VI/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=8-1&qid=1394225823), it was pretty interesting. Although it was rather inconclusive, it did dispel some things I'd taken for granted.

I may not finish The Big Book of Endurance Training and Racing (http://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Endurance-Training-Racing-ebook/dp/B004UI6ECQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394225818&sr=8-1&keywords=big+book+of+endurance+training+and+racing) -- there's a ton of great info in here, but he's extraordinarily long winded and repetitive and I'm starting to think I've gleaned all I'm gonna...  as with your book there mouser, I feel like it could have been boiled down to a few pages. (Actually, it has (http://www.philmaffetone.com/180-formula). By the same author. )

Finally, I'm reading Ancillary Justice (http://www.amazon.com/Ancillary-Justice-Ann-Leckie-ebook/dp/B00BAXFDLM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394227315&sr=8-1&keywords=ancillary+justice) and it's a bit mind blowing. I haven't enjoyed a sci-fi book so much in a very long time.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Vurbal on March 07, 2014, 04:02 PM
Valiant's past contribution to machine learning was a useful way of formalizing some guarantees about a class of "Probably, Approximately Correct (PAC)" algorithms.  His attempt at branding that as a theory of intelligence falls painfully short.

Intelligence is such a difficult thing to put your finger on. In a lot of ways I think I understand it better than most so-called experts, as if there really was such a thing. The problem is I can't really explain what I think I've figured out for the same reason I was able to figure it out - because it's so complex.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on March 13, 2014, 04:37 PM
Just finished "The Code Book" by Simon Singh:
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Good stuff. Gives a nice history of cryptography up to the present.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on March 13, 2014, 09:49 PM
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Grendel by John Gardener.

This is the Beowulf legend narrated from the monster Grendel's point of view. (Grendel is the ultimate nihilist.)

Utterly brilliant and beautifully styled (see samples below). Highly recommended. :Thmbsup:

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Post by: kyrathaba on March 15, 2014, 10:15 AM
I recently read Brian Lumley's "Necroscope". Outstanding!  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on March 16, 2014, 12:49 AM
^ One of my favourite series that I reread every couple of years or so, certainly a different, (and more interesting IMHO), take on the vampire mythos.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on March 27, 2014, 01:34 PM
Working my way through Mark Minasi's latest 1700-page server opus: Mastering Windows Server 2012 R2 (http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Windows-Server-2012-R2/dp/1118289420/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395944027&sr=8-1&keywords=mastering+windows+server+2012)

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1700 pages of solid reading with a much heavier emphasis on the command line and PowerShell scripting this time around. (You'll need to have at least a moderate acquaintance with PowerShell and a general understanding of OUs and GPOs to get the most out of this book.) This is not a good textbook for complete beginners. W2K12-R2 has several curve balls plus some new surprises and 'features.' It's different enough that even people who have been with Windows Server since the NT days will have a lot of info to catch up on (and digest) with this release. And Minasi's book definitely fast tracks you through it.

A very good book for experienced and/or 'pro' readers. Less experienced users, or people completely new to Windows Server, might want to look elsewhere.
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Target on March 27, 2014, 09:25 PM
I'm a bit surprised this one hasn't gotten a guernsey yet - Thinkertoys (http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.amazon.com/Thinkertoys-Handbook-Creative-Thinking-Techniques-Edition/dp/1580087736&sa=U&ei=itw0U5n5GoOqkAWnioDoAQ&ved=0CB4QFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHyo9wVJyasOPEsYWu6zC-jymXqWw) by Michael Michalko

IMHO it's a good read and a great resource

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on May 09, 2014, 04:01 AM
Christensen - Beatles
Stein - The art of racing in the rain
Bowen - A street cat named Bob
Ayme - The man who walked through walls
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on May 09, 2014, 06:14 AM
Uncertainty: Einstein, Heisenberg, Bohr, and the Struggle for the Soul of Science Paperback (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400079969) - by David Lindley
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Fantastic read but drops the ball a bit at the end.



Quantum: A Guide for the Perplexed Paperback (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1841882380) - by Dr. Jim Al-Khalili
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Quite good so far -- tiny bit of history, mostly science.



See also my previous post on one of my favorite books about history of Quantum Physics: "Quantum: Einstein, Bohr, and the Great Debate about the Nature of Reality" by Manjit Kumar (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=20287.msg207084;topicseen#msg207084)



Anyone interested in science needs to read about the history of quantum physics -- it's amazing, inspirational stuff.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on May 30, 2014, 05:08 AM
Yancey: Fifth first wave - contact with aliens - good, but not that good
Fools Crow: Tale about an Indian tribe - so-so, good if you like reading about Indian way of life
Faldbakken: The Cocka Hola Company, Macht und rebel, Unfun  -drugs, money, killing babies, sex with children, drinking, anarchy, lies, misanthropy ... - good, but not for those with a bas stomache
Wool - life in a silo in post-apocalyptic America - excellent
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on May 30, 2014, 11:57 AM
Anyone who likes good urban fantasy should look at The Dresden Files (http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/dresden) by Jim Butcher. 

The Dresden Files are Jim’s first published series, telling the story of Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden, Chicago’s first (and only) Wizard P.I.

The new book Skin Game just came out, and that's what I'm reading right now.

Parkour!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on May 30, 2014, 01:19 PM
Lately anything and everything by Charles Stross (http://www.amazon.com/Charles-Stross/e/B001H6IW0Q/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1). Especially good is his short story collection Wireless.

Stross does an occasional alternate history riff using themes from H.P. Lovecraft wedded to Cold War politics. The results are unique and chilling.

Here's some excerpts from the short story A Colder War which is included in the Wireless collection. A CIA analyst is preparing a brief for the Executive Branch that attempts to summarize a Soviet military program that threatens a form of spiritual destruction and suffering far worse than death itself. (If you like it or want to see more, a complete copy of this story can be read online here (http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm).)

The file he is reading frightens him.

Once, when Roger was a young boy, his father took him to an open day at Nellis AFB, out in the California desert. Sunlight glared brilliantly from the polished silverplate flanks of the big bombers, sitting in their concrete-lined dispersal bays behind barriers and blinking radiation monitors. The brightly coloured streamers flying from their pitot tubes lent them a strange, almost festive appearance. But they were sleeping nightmares: once awakened, nobody -- except the flight crew -- could come within a mile of the nuclear-powered bombers and live.

Looking at the gleaming, bulging pods slung under their wingtip pylons, Roger had a premature inkling of the fires that waited within, a frigid terror that echoed the siren wail of the air raid warnings. He'd sucked nervously on his ice cream and gripped his father's hand tightly while the band ripped through a cheerful Sousa march, and only forgot his fear when a flock of Thunderchiefs sliced by overhead and rattled the car windows for miles around.

He has the same feeling now, as an adult reading this intelligence assessment, that he had as a child, watching the nuclear powered bombers sleeping in their concrete beds.

There's a blurry photograph of a concrete box inside the file, snapped from above by a high-flying U-2 during the autumn of '61. Three coffin-shaped lakes, bulking dark and gloomy beneath the arctic sun; a canal heading west, deep in the Soviet heartland, surrounded by warning trefoils and armed guards. Deep waters saturated with calcium salts, concrete coffer-dams lined with gold and lead. A sleeping giant pointed at NATO, more terrifying than any nuclear weapon.

Project Koschei.


Puzzle Palace

Roger isn't a soldier. He's not much of a patriot, either: he signed up with the CIA after college, in the aftermath of the Church Commission hearings in the early seventies. The Company was out of the assassination business, just a bureaucratic engine rolling out National Security assessments: that's fine by Roger. Only now, five years later, he's no longer able to roll along, casually disengaged, like a car in neutral bowling down a shallow incline towards his retirement, pension and a gold watch. He puts the file down on his desk and, with a shaking hand, pulls an illicit cigarette from the pack he keeps in his drawer. He lights it and leans back for a moment to draw breath, force relaxation, staring at smoke rolling in the air beneath the merciless light until his hand stops shaking.

Most people think spies are afraid of guns, or KGB guards, or barbed wire, but in point of fact the most dangerous thing they face is paper. Papers carry secrets. Papers can carry death warrants. Papers like this one, this folio with its blurry eighteen year old faked missile photographs and estimates of time/survivor curves and pervasive psychosis ratios, can give you nightmares, dragging you awake screaming in the middle of the night. It's one of a series of highly classified pieces of paper that he is summarizing for the eyes of the National Security Council and the President Elect -- if his head of department and the DDCIA approve it -- and here he is, having to calm his nerves with a cigarette before he turns the next page.

After a few minutes, Roger's hand is still. He leaves his cigarette in the eagle-headed ash tray and picks up the intelligence report again. It's a summary, itself the distillation of thousands of pages and hundreds of photographs. It's barely twenty pages long: as of 1963, its date of preparation, the CIA knew very little about Project Koschei. Just the bare skeleton, and rumours from a highly-placed spy. And their own equivalent project, of course. Lacking the Soviet lead in that particular field, the USAF fielded the silver-plated white elephants of the NB-39 project: twelve atomic-powered bombers armed with XK-PLUTO, ready to tackle Project Koschei should the Soviets show signs of unsealing the bunker. Three hundred megatons of H-bombs pointed at a single target, and nobody was certain it would be enough to do the job.

And then there was the hard-to-conceal fiasco in Antarctica. Egg on face: a subterranean nuclear test program in international territory! If nothing else, it had been enough to stop JFK running for a second term. The test program was a bad excuse: but it was far better than confessing what had really happened to the 501st Airborne Division on the cold plateau beyond Mount Erebus. The plateau that the public didn't know about, that didn't show up on the maps issued by the geological survey departments of those governments party to the Dresden Agreement of 1931 -- an arrangement that even Hitler had stuck to. The plateau that had swallowed more U-2 spy planes than the Soviet Union, more surface expeditions than darkest Africa.


Stross! The man. :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 30, 2014, 10:04 PM
An Intro to GCC Compilers, by Brian Gough
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on May 31, 2014, 09:17 PM
Prof. Rob Miles' "C# Yellow Book"
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on July 21, 2014, 01:52 PM
Stross! The man

I just finished GlassHouse (http://www.amazon.com/Glasshouse-Charles-Stross/dp/0441014038).

From the perspective of the civilization wherein resides the main character, we are living in The Dark Ages(tm.)  I won't say more to avoid spoiling the surprises.  Although I must say if gender shifting or role reversal weirds you out don't bail on the novel.  It's handled in such a way that it doesn't feel creepy.

I have a feeling the next few Sci Fi novels I read will be by this author.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on August 13, 2014, 06:35 PM
Although I'm a bit concerned about the future of the Ketai library (https://code.google.com/p/ketai/), am reading Rapid Android Development (http://pragprog.com/book/dsproc/rapid-android-development):

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blurb from the aforementioned linked page:

Create mobile apps for Android phones and tablets faster and more easily than you ever imagined. Use “Processing,” the free, award-winning, graphics-savvy language and development environment, to work with the touchscreens, hardware sensors, cameras, network transceivers, and other devices and software in the latest Android phones and tablets.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 14, 2014, 08:16 AM
I'm nearly finished with Accelerando (http://www.amazon.com/Accelerando-Singularity-Charles-Stross/dp/0441014151)

The Singularity. It is the era of the posthuman. Artificial intelligences have surpassed the limits of human intellect. Biotechnological beings have rendered people all but extinct. Molecular nanotechnology runs rampant, replicating and reprogramming at will. Contact with extraterrestrial life grows more imminent with each new day.

The blurb makes it sound like Terminator: Man vs Machine.  But it's an amusing tale of the transition of humans from merely "meat brained" to augmented integration with technology.  Fun reading.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Ullie on August 14, 2014, 11:49 AM
I'm just reading the HarryPotter series  :-* - its nicer than the movies!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on August 14, 2014, 12:26 PM
"Consciousness and the Brain: Deciphering How the Brain Codes Our Thoughts (http://www.amazon.com/Consciousness-Brain-Deciphering-Codes-Thoughts/dp/0670025437)" by Stanislas Dehaene.
Just started it, but so far so good.  Looks like a good book to recommend to people who want a more scientific, less fuzzy, take on consciousness.

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Having finished this book, I can highly recommend it to anyone interested in the science of consciousness.  It is free of hand-waving and silliness, and is focused on empirical observations rather than philosophical convolution.

You won't find too much computational discussion in the book, and Dehaena's Global Workspace theory is a bit light on details, but I do think it's a step in the right direction, which captures a core piece of what consciousness is.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on November 10, 2014, 03:09 PM
Hi all,
I am asking for your help : I am looking for a short Sci-Fi story rather old, where an explorer, suffering from asthma, is captured by an advanced tribe somewhere deep withing a forest or some far away land.  They offer him a cure for asthma, as well as lots of food and nice treatments.  He finally realizes that they are cannibals and intend to eat hime to get his intelligence.  He barely escapes but destroys the device for curing asthma in the process.
It's somewhere in my paper library but since it's a short story, it's rather hard to find and I have not managed to find the right keywords in Google to pinpoint it.
If this rings a bell, that would be great !  Thanks.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on November 11, 2014, 02:32 PM
Continuing with Charles Stross I'm half way through Saturn's Children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn%27s_Children_%28novel%29).  Straightforward fun scifi.  Not much in the way of philosophy. A pleasant read.

I had to quit The Family Trade half way through because it was just too targeted at women.  A Cinderella Story described as such in the novel itself.  If I had used up all the rest of Stross I could suffer through.  So I'll put it to the end of the queue.


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on November 11, 2014, 03:29 PM
Faraday, Maxwell, and the Electromagnetic Field: How Two Men Revolutionized Physics Hardcover – by Nancy Forbes
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Finished it last week; quite good.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on November 11, 2014, 06:14 PM
(Numbering might change in the future!)        : )
I'm starting to get back into my old Buddhist training.
Round 1A1's set is Zen.

1A1 - a: Book of Serenity - (The slightly less well known of the two famous collections) ... because on day 1 of my new beginner multicultural meditation class our teacher tossed out #9 Nanquan's cat. I both missed it having not read that tome, and missed any remotely interesting answer because of 20 years of rust!
:tellme:

But back in the day, in my good job, I built a pretty good private library (including Buddhism), so I found it pretty fast - I figured:
"Okay, I have two tomes of the famous koans. Either he picked one of those, and since I only glanced at a few out of 200, sure he could have found one I hadn't seen. Or, he could have found an ultra obscure one, at which point I get to ask him why that one?" But yes/no, it was there - Nanquan's Cat, Book of Serenity #9.

1A1 - b: Blue Cliff Record - The "slightly more well known of the two collections".

1A1 - c: Compass of Zen by Seung Sahn. A "more modern" take on the overlap of Indian classical Buddhism and zen, but with a few modern teachings that clarify some sticky points.

More sets to come later!

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: bit on November 11, 2014, 07:25 PM
Countdown to Zero Day (http://gizmodo.com/the-incredible-tale-of-stuxnet-a-weapon-for-the-digita-1656811897)
The Inside Story of How Stuxnet Was Discovered.
I haven't read it yet, as it just came out today and I'm going to wait for the price to drop a little more, but seems like a fascinating read, and the Amazon link (http://www.amazon.com/Countdown-Zero-Day-Stuxnet-Digital/dp/077043617X?tag=gizmodoamzn-20&ascsubtag=[referrer|rense.com[type|link[postId|1656811897[asin|077043617X[authorId|5726820009935495877) where it's #1 in two categories and #2 in another, includes a recommendation by Kevin Mitnik.

Update: excerpt 'adapted from the ^book'; please go here (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/11/12/stuxnet/):
quote: "Son of Stuxnet - The Digital Hunt for Duqu"; "This wasn’t a simple hack anymore; it looked like it might be a nation-state attack with national-security implications."
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: erikts on December 05, 2014, 05:31 AM
I am about to read "Charisma +1: The Guide to Convention Etiquette for Gamers, Geeks & the Socially Awkward (http://wordfirepress.com/authors/jessica-brawner/)" by Jessica Brawner.

In D&D there are certain attributes you start with, just as in life there are certain things you’re born with: Strength, Will, Charisma, Wisdom, Intelligence and Constitution. Whether you’re a veteran convention attendee, a con-virgin, a volunteer, vendor or a guest, everyone can use a bump in their life stats.

Do you know what the 6-2-1 rule is? What do Barbarians and cell phones have to do with hygiene? Do you know when it’s okay to take a photograph? How do you flirt with that cute girl or guy across the room? Who are Booth Babes really?

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MerleOne on December 05, 2014, 05:40 AM
I am just finished a moving novel, in French, "L'amour et les forêts", "Love and forests", from Eric Reinhard, a story of a woman who suffers a lot from her husband who is beyond selfishness.  To escape her inbearable daily life, she has a one day affair with a stranger met online, she is forced to confess this to her husband and he will make her pay in many cruel ways.  It's a story about love, resignation, rebellion.  Based upon the true story of several women met by the writer blended into one character. Superb but dark.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 05, 2014, 08:10 AM
Sandman Slim: A Novel by Richard Kadrey.

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First book in a series. Quite funny - in a real bad-attitude way. Not my usual thing. But sometimes we can all use a break from the heavy metaphysics we get for our daily fare. If you're a fan of John Butcher's Dresden Files you'll feel right at home here. It's an enjoyable straight-ahead action story with some surprises and great characters. Some of the best 'snappy' dialog I've read in a long time too. Recommended. :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on December 07, 2014, 01:42 PM
Finished the well-reviewed auto-biography of Keith Richards from the Rolling Stones.  Pretty entertaining.

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http://www.amazon.com/Life-Keith-Richards/dp/031603441X
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 07, 2014, 05:43 PM
@Mouser - if you enjoyed that, check out fellow Stones guitarist Ronnie Wood's: Ronnie: The Autobiography (http://www.amazon.com/Ronnie-The-Autobiography-Wood/dp/B001LNOOFW)

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Fascinating guy. And one of the best known underrated guitarists out there.

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But even more fascinating is Levon Helm's personal (and band) autobiography. (In case anybody's wondering, Levon was most well known as the drummer and a vocalist for The Band.) Check out This Wheel's on Fire: Levon Helm and the Story of the Band (http://www.amazon.com/This-Wheels-Fire-Levon-Story/dp/1556524056)

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It's not only interesting from a musical perspective. It's also fascinating because he illuminates a period in American history where the South was transitioning from it's agricultural heritage into the 'something else' we know it as today. Levon was there for the dawn of Rock & Roll. Recommended!

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on December 11, 2014, 03:12 AM
How an Economy Grows and Why it Crashes uses illustration, humor, and accessible storytelling to explain complex topics of economic growth and monetary systems:
http://freedom-school.com/money/how-an-economy-grows.pdf
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on December 20, 2014, 11:54 AM
Just finished re-reading Hermann Melville's  Moby-Dick. Totally engrossing story that, for some reason, seems to get better and better the older I get. What can that mean?  :tellme: ;D

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on December 21, 2014, 05:14 PM
Just started:
Mandarin Gate by Eliot Pattison, seventh in his 'Inspector Shan' series of thrillers set in present-day Tibet, detailing the Chinese cultural genocide of Tibetan Buddhist culture, the very monks oppressed fugitives in their own country.

Just finished:
Foxglove Summer by Ben Aaronovich.  Great fun, though a bit of a deus ex machina ending (rather literally).  This is the fifth in Aaronovich's series of 'Peter Grant' thrillers, the first being Rivers of London.  Up-to-the-minute police procedurals - except that the viewpoint detective constable (of mixed race) is also England's most recently recruited wizard...  Somehow it all works.

Just finished:
Prayer by Philip Kerr.  Kerr is better known for the excellent though grim 'Bernie Gunther' series of thrillers, but this is a stand-alone novel.  It's an unpleasant, uncomfortable book that picks out examples of God's wrath from the Bible to postulate God as a kind of Manichaean monster, with a frequently Stalinist contempt for human life.  Theists, especially Christians, you have been warned.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on February 11, 2015, 02:57 PM
Wounding the World: How Military Violence and War-Play Invade Our Lives by Joanna Bourke, Professor of History at Birkbeck, University of London.
- how militarism and the horrific injuries caused by modern weapons are euphemised, sanitised, obfuscated, and distanced by treatment as abstract theoretical problems, to normalise a permanent state of war.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on February 13, 2015, 09:04 PM
Thinking, Fast and Slow (http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8) by David Kahneman.

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A book on how we think (duh!). It's excellent. Read it! :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Curt on February 15, 2015, 04:41 PM
Thinking-Fast-Slow-by David Kahneman.
It's excellent. Read it! :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:

^ +1  :up:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on March 15, 2015, 11:07 AM
Just finished The Psychopath Test (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12391521-the-psychopath-test), which was a nice read. Jon Ronson has an engaging and humorous writing style, without feeling crude or silly, given the somewhat serious topic.

Next up is Halting State (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/222472.Halting_State), while I'm waiting for the paperback edition of The Rhesus Chart (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18211295-the-rhesus-chart) to become available. I have the rest of the laundry files in that format, so getting the hardcover edition would clash with the rest of series in the bookshelf :P
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on March 15, 2015, 05:22 PM
Currently, I'm re-reading the Demon Cycle by Peter V Brett (https://www.goodreads.com/series/46817-demon-cycle)- preparing for the new book to come out later this month.  If you've not read them, they're very good.

I'm also reading Point of Impact (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/127712.Point_of_Impact)- the movie that Shooter (with Mark Wahlberg) was based on.  Definitely very different a much more engaging than the movie.

I'm also reading Promise of Blood (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15790883-promise-of-blood) by McClellan- promises to be a very good series.  

As I read very fast, I try to read multiple books at once in order to string each one of them out.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Mark0 on March 16, 2015, 10:36 AM
Just finished the first 3 books of Dean Koontz's Frankenstein. Non especially deep, but a nice light page turner.

Now I'm reading The Future Was Here: The Commodore Amiga (http://www.anobii.com/books/The_Future_Was_Here/9780262017206/01b6d1f83ccde3dc84), by Jimmy Maher.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on March 16, 2015, 05:51 PM
Currently reading:
   Resurrection Engines ed. Scott Harrison
15 steampunk responses to (mostly) 19th century fiction, e.g. Kim Lakin-Smith's conflation of Peter Pan with The Island of Doctor Moreau, Adam Roberts on the [C]rime of the Ancient Mariner, and Juliet McKenna's feminist response to Rider Haggard's She.

Just finished:
   The Island of Doctor Moreau by H.G. Wells
One of the ur-texts of fantasy and science fiction
   Soul of the Fire by Elliot Pattison
Latest in his "Inspector Shan" mysteries set in present-day Tibet, this one focuses on the increasing number of self-immolations of a people unable to express their protests in other ways.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: xtabber on March 20, 2015, 11:11 AM
Just finished "The End of College: Creating the Future of Learning and the University of Everywhere" by Kevin Carey.

http://www.amazon.com/End-College-Creating-University-Everywhere/dp/1594632057/

Like many journalists, the author does a better job of explaining the way things are and how they got that way than in predicting where they are going, but this should be a must read for Mouser!



Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: lindberg on March 20, 2015, 07:28 PM
At those boring breaks at work, currently reading "All the presidents men" (I assume that everyone knows the story of Bob Woodward´s and Carl Bernstein's journalistic work, a.k.a "the Watergate Scandal"). a great movie too... (Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman as Woodward and Bernstein).
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 Just finished a re-reading of "Pink Floyd, människorna, musiken, myterna" (Pink Floyd, the people, the music, the myths) by Bengt Liljegren. A great book if you are a Pink Floyd fan and fluent in the Swedish language, as the masterpiece doesn't seem to have been translated to English (?).
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Now reading "Collapse" by Jared Diamond.
Very, very interesting. What is it that make societies collapse? Historical examples...

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on March 28, 2015, 05:07 AM
Flasar: I Called Him Necktie
http://www.amazon.com/Called-Necktie-Milena-Michiko-Flasar/dp/1939931142
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Mark0 on March 28, 2015, 06:02 AM
The book on the history of the Amiga was very nice.

Now, I just started Becoming Steve Jobs (http://www.anobii.com/books/Becoming_Steve_Jobs/9780385347402/01ff60fb28f390a8db).

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on March 28, 2015, 06:31 AM
The book on the history of the Amiga was very nice.

Now, I just started Becoming Steve Jobs (http://www.anobii.com/books/Becoming_Steve_Jobs/9780385347402/01ff60fb28f390a8db).

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Heh.  That photo makes him look like the greatest ATP Tennis Champion ever.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on March 28, 2015, 10:19 AM
Just finished the first 3 books of Dean Koontz's Frankenstein. Non especially deep, but a nice light page turner.

Now I'm reading The Future Was Here: The Commodore Amiga (http://www.anobii.com/books/The_Future_Was_Here/9780262017206/01b6d1f83ccde3dc84), by Jimmy Maher.

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I read the review. It reminded me of when I was a kid at a "computer camp" and wrote my first program of any "length" at the time. The Commodore PET computer froze and I lost it. :(
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on May 02, 2015, 03:34 AM
Continuing my L. P. Daviesw trend from the movie (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=34481.msg380930#msg380930) thread:

The White Room
Dimension A
The Land of Leys
Adventure Holidays, Ltd

All available for free via the Open Library (http://openlibrary.org), although The White Room was seriously munged in some places by the OCR process.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: hisroyalhighness on May 05, 2015, 06:40 AM
I am currently reading: the name of the wind
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Name-Wind-Kingkiller-Chronicle/dp/0575081406/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430825924&sr=8-1&keywords=name+of+the+wind
It is actually pretty amazing if you are any into fantasy. The development of characters is quite nice.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on May 05, 2015, 07:38 AM
Currently I am reading Idoru (http://www.amazon.com/Idoru-William-Gibson/dp/0425158640) by William Gibson.  It is the first of his works for me.  The protagonist is a genius researcher.  His gift is the ability to sift massive amounts of data and intuitively pursue productive threads.

The plot beings to focus when he is hired by the high tech equivalent of a Tabloid juggernaut.  I am only a few chapters in.  But the hero seems to be moving inexorably (do they not always move inexorably in novels?) toward the nexus of idols, fame, entertainment, tabloid journalism and scandal.

The book is classified SciFi and as yet the only thing that would distinguish it as such is the rebuilding of Japan using nanotechnology.  I am hoping this changes as the plot gains momentum.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on May 05, 2015, 11:28 AM
I have no idea what I'm going to be reading over the next month or so, but I think "The Law" will be about at the top.

I will have a good amount of time available to read at length, and have got my mini-library ready.

My mini-library of choices to read is available for free (really) and is distributed through The Pirate Bay.

These are the titles I've downloaded (structured):

Code: Text [Select]
  1. Anarcho-capitalism 202
  2.  Bastiat, Frederic
  3.  Block, Walter
  4.  Friedman, David
  5.  Hayek, Friedrich
  6.  Hazlitt, Henry - Economics in One Lesson
  7.  Hoppe, Hans-Hermann
  8.  Huemer, Michael
  9.  Kinsella, Stephan
  10.  Konkin, Samuel Edward III
  11.  Mises
  12.  Murphy, Robert A
  13.  Nock, Albert
  14.  Rothbard, Murray
  15.  Schumpeter, Joseph
  16.  Tannehill, Morris and Linda
  17.  
  18.  
  19. Bastiat, Frederic
  20.  Law, The - Frederic Bastiat.jpg
  21.  Law, The - Frederic Bastiat.mobi
  22.  Law, The - Frederic Bastiat.opf
  23.  The Law Frederic Bastiat.mp3
  24.  The Law.epub
  25.  The Law.pdf
  26.  
  27.  
  28. Block, Walter
  29.  Defending the Undefendable.epub
  30.  Defending the Undefendable.pdf
  31.  The Privatization of Roads and Highways.epub
  32.  The Privatization of Roads and Highways.pdf
  33.  
  34.  
  35. Friedman, David
  36.  The Machinery of Freedom (1973).pdf
  37.  
  38.  
  39. Hayek, Friedrich
  40.  The Road to Serfdom Friedrich A Hayek.wmv
  41.  The Road to Serfdom.pdf
  42.  
  43.  
  44. Hazlitt, Henry - Economics in One Lesson
  45.  Economics in One Lesson - Henry Hazlitt.pdf
  46.  
  47.  
  48. Hoppe, Hans-Hermann
  49.  Economic Science and the Austrian Method.epub
  50.  Economic Science and the Austrian Method.pdf
  51.  Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf
  52.  
  53.  
  54. Huemer, Michael
  55.  The Problem of Political Authority_ An E - Michael Huemer.epub
  56.  The Problem of Political Authority_ An E - Michael Huemer.mobi
  57.  
  58.  
  59. Kinsella, Stephan
  60.  Against Intellectual Property - N. Stephan Kinsella.jpg
  61.  Against Intellectual Property - N. Stephan Kinsella.mobi
  62.  Against Intellectual Property - N. Stephan Kinsella.opf
  63.  Against Intellectual Property.epub
  64.  Against Intellectual Property.pdf
  65.  
  66.  
  67. Konkin, Samuel Edward III
  68.  Agorism - New Libertarian Manifesto.pdf
  69.  
  70.  
  71. Mises
  72.  Human Action.epub
  73.  Human Action.pdf
  74.  
  75.  
  76. Murphy, Robert A
  77.  chaostheory.pdf
  78.  Lessons for the Young Economist - Murphy.pdf
  79.  
  80.  
  81. Nock, Albert
  82.  Our Enemy, The State.pdf
  83.  
  84.  
  85. Rothbard, Murray
  86.  Anatomy of the State (essay)
  87.  Ethics of Liberty
  88.  For a New Liberty
  89.  Left, Right, and the Prospects for Liberty
  90.  Man, Economy, and State
  91.  
  92.  
  93. Rothbard, Murray\Anatomy of the State (essay)
  94.  Anatomy of the State - Murray N. Rothbard.mobi
  95.  Anatomy of the State Murray N Rothbard.mp3
  96.  Anatomy of the State.epub
  97.  Anatomy of the State.pdf
  98.  
  99.  
  100. Rothbard, Murray\Ethics of Liberty
  101.  The Ethics of Liberty.epub
  102.  The Ethics of Liberty.pdf
  103.  
  104.  
  105. Rothbard, Murray\For a New Liberty
  106.  Ethics of Liberty, The - Murray N. Rothbard.mobi
  107.  For A New Liberty - Murray N. Rothbard.mobi
  108.  For a New Liberty The Libertarian Manifesto.epub
  109.  For a New Liberty The Libertarian Manifesto.pdf
  110.  
  111.  
  112. Rothbard, Murray\Left, Right, and the Prospects for Liberty
  113.  Left, Right, & the Prospects for Liberty - Murray N. Rothbard.mobi
  114.  Left, Right, and the Prospects for Liberty Murray N Rothbard.mp3
  115.  Left, Right, and the Prospects for Liberty.epub
  116.  Left, Right, and the Prospects for Liberty.pdf
  117.  
  118.  
  119. Rothbard, Murray\Man, Economy, and State
  120.  Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market - Murray N. Rothbard.jpg
  121.  Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market - Murray N. Rothbard.mobi
  122.  Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market - Murray N. Rothbard.opf
  123.  Man, Economy, and State, with Power and Market.epub
  124.  Man, Economy, and State, with Power and Market.pdf
  125.  
  126.  
  127. Schumpeter, Joseph
  128.  Methodological Individualism.pdf
  129.  
  130.  
  131. Tannehill, Morris and Linda
  132.  The Market for Liberty.pdf

They can be downloaded here:

https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/11118106/Anarcho-capitalism_202

;)

Not every download on The Pirate Bay is "illegal". 8)

While there are a few "must reads" that I want to get to, "Our Enemy, The State.pdf" just seems too tempting. :) I gotta see what that's about.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on May 23, 2015, 08:10 AM
Along with the ancap stuff above, I "saved" one book while packing to move.

It is an old book, and a collection of science fiction short stories. My edition is from 1958, but the original was from 1956. The dust jacket was near destroyed, and my toddler ensured the rest of its destruction. So much for the dust jacket.

But I saved it because I'd somehow picked it up in Korea at some point in the many years I spent there. I don't remember how I got it. It's odd to have picked up an English book that old there, and it somehow survived the journey through Malaysia and on to Australia. It seemed somehow cruel to throw it out after having lasted and endured so much.

Now, in a Vietnamese province bordering Cambodia, I've managed to read almost the entire book, with only a few pages remaining. It's been very enjoyable. There are some oddities that stick out as it was written well over 50 years ago, but they're simply quaint and only add to the enjoyment.

Author: Clifford Simak
Title: Strangers in the Universe

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1928796.Strangers_in_the_Universe

I'd recommend it for anyone interested in sci-fi with a strong emphasis on humanity. The stories have points to be made, although very often the point is only half made with the rest left for you to think about. I think that's the best part - the author leaves a lot to the reader.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on May 23, 2015, 09:42 AM
Currently I am reading Idoru (http://www.amazon.com/Idoru-William-Gibson/dp/0425158640) by William Gibson.  It is the first of his works for me.  The protagonist is a genius researcher.  His gift is the ability to sift massive amounts of data and intuitively pursue productive threads.

The plot beings to focus when he is hired by the high tech equivalent of a Tabloid juggernaut.  I am only a few chapters in.  But the hero seems to be moving inexorably (do they not always move inexorably in novels?) toward the nexus of idols, fame, entertainment, tabloid journalism and scandal.

The book is classified SciFi and as yet the only thing that would distinguish it as such is the rebuilding of Japan using nanotechnology.  I am hoping this changes as the plot gains momentum.


I got half way through this and it is dead dog slow.  A girl in a fan club goes to Japan to find out why one of the guys in the band is going to marry somebody.  Other than the fact she has a weird computer and buildings in Japan are "grown" by nanobots, it is just bad guys looking to find her.  Too much of a plodder for me.  I am trying Mirkieim (http://www.amazon.com/Mirkieim-Poul-Anderson/dp/B00072FJAW) by Poul Anderson.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on May 27, 2015, 06:49 AM
dead dog slow

That's one of the reasons I like short stories. :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on May 27, 2015, 09:06 AM
dead dog slow

That's one of the reasons I like short stories. :)

I liked those of W. Somerset Maugham.  It has been so long since I read his stuff I forget the titles.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on June 27, 2015, 02:47 PM
Haven't read this yet, but it sounds neat:

Just My Type by Simon Garfield
http://www.amazon.com/Just-My-Type-About-Fonts/dp/1592407463
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"Simon Garfield’s Just My Type presents an entertaining history of fonts, from font "pirating" dating back nearly as far as Gutenberg to the creation of Comic Sans and Ikea’s font-change controversy. With a variety of recent, news-making examples and font samples throughout, Just My Type explains how and why certain fonts can elicit emotions or gut-instinct reactions. Garfield’s humor and historical anecdotes add to his deep understanding of how something as simple as font choice can speak volumes about our cultural climate--and why it’s so easy to agonize over what font to use on a party invitation. Whether you’re already a font aficionado or can’t tell the difference between Times New Roman and Arial, this entertaining history will give you a greater appreciation of the typefaces that surround you every day. --Malissa Kent"

More info here: http://gadgetopia.com/post/9282
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: sword on July 01, 2015, 11:19 AM
"The Coming Swarm" DDoS Actions, Hacktivism, and Civil Disobedience on the Internet,
by Molly Sauter, Bloomsbury Academic, 2014 ISBN PB: 978-1-6235-6456-8
Chapter seven. Against the man: State and corporate responses to DDoS actions.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on July 02, 2015, 03:52 AM
I am currently reading: the name of the wind
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Name-Wind-Kingkiller-Chronicle/dp/0575081406/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430825924&sr=8-1&keywords=name+of+the+wind
It is actually pretty amazing if you are any into fantasy. The development of characters is quite nice.
-hisroyalhighness (May 05, 2015, 06:40 AM)

I have read it already, but didn't liked it as much as other do. I still prefer Conan ...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on July 02, 2015, 04:26 AM
I have no idea what I'm going to be reading over the next month or so, but I think "The Law" will be about at the top.

I will have a good amount of time available to read at length, and have got my mini-library ready.

While there are a few "must reads" that I want to get to, "Our Enemy, The State.pdf" just seems too tempting. :) I gotta see what that's about.

I have downloaded about 90 books from Mises.org and at this moment I am down to 42.

I have downloaded those from your list that I do not have. Thanx for posting it.

You could also look at these:

https://mises.org/library/what-you-should-know-about-inflation-0
https://mises.org/library/inflation-crisis-and-how-resolve-it
http://www.filedropper.com/305goldwars (This is next on my list - I have uploaded it because the free download at fame.org is no longer available)

"... What you read in this book will, in all likelihood, go directly against what you have been taught by your parents and your teachers, what you have been told by the churches, the media and the government, and much of what you, your family and your friends have always believed. Nonetheless, it is the truth, as you will see if you allow yourself to consider the issue objectively. Not only is it the truth, it also may be the most important truth you will ever hear ...":
http://www.mensenrechten.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-20111.pdf
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on July 09, 2015, 03:20 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on July 09, 2015, 04:34 AM
^ when you're done panzer, I'd be curious to know what you think of the first two there.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on July 13, 2015, 10:13 AM
First one is very good, but has only examples from USA ...

Second one ... Well, If I remember correctly, some remarks from him about economics are not necessarily correct ... If I were you, I wouldn't believe every word he says ... Otherwise, good attempt at squeezing a human history into one book.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on July 13, 2015, 10:20 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 07, 2015, 04:15 PM
Area X: The Southern Reach Trilogy: Annihilation; Authority; Acceptance - the omnibus edition of Jeff VanderMeer's weird trilogy about the "Southern Reach" a bizarre and somewhat sinister manifestation of reality that lurks behind some sort of dimensional barrier along the southern coast of the United States. With elements of an implied eco-disaster, government cover-ups, conspiracy, psycho-drama, and surrealism, Area X is utterly unclassifiable as to story genre.

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From the blurb accompanying the first book Annihilation:

Area X has been cut off from the rest of the continent for decades. Nature has reclaimed the last vestiges of human civilization. The first expedition returned with reports of a pristine, Edenic landscape; all the members of the second expedition committed suicide; the third expedition died in a hail of gunfire as its members turned on one another; the members of the eleventh expedition returned as shadows of their former selves, and within months of their return, all had died of aggressive cancer.

This is the twelfth expedition.

Definitely not for everyone. Especially those who like all the mysteries they encounter in a novel either explained or tied up with a neat bow. In some respects it's almost an experimental novel - with all that implies.

I thought it was rather brilliant overall despite being flawed in a several places. Worth a read IMO. But be forewarned, my taste in fiction runs towards the eldritch, the ironic, and the metaphysical.

Here's the opening of the first book to give you an idea of the tone and style.

from Annihilation
Chapter 1

The tower, which was not supposed to be there, plunges into the earth in a place just before the black pine forest begins to give way to swamp and then the reeds and wind-gnarled trees of the marsh flats. Beyond the marsh flats and the natural canals lies the ocean and, a little farther down the coast, a derelict lighthouse. All of this part of the country had been abandoned for decades, for reasons that are not easy to relate. Our expedition was the first to enter Area X for more than two years, and much of our predecessors’ equipment had rusted, their tents and sheds little more than husks. Looking out over that untroubled landscape, I do not believe any of us could yet see the threat.

There were four of us: a biologist, an anthropologist, a surveyor, and a psychologist. I was the biologist. All of us were women this time, chosen as part of the complex set of variables that governed sending the expeditions. The psychologist, who was older than the rest of us, served as the expedition’s leader. She had put us all under hypnosis to cross the border, to make sure we remained calm. It took four days of hard hiking after crossing the border to reach the coast.

Our mission was simple: to continue the government’s investigation into the mysteries of Area X, slowly working our way out from base camp.

The expedition could last days, months, or even years, depending on various stimuli and conditions. We had supplies with us for six months, and another two years’ worth of supplies had already been stored at the base camp. We had also been assured that it was safe to live off the land if necessary. All of our foodstuffs were smoked or canned or in packets. Our most outlandish equipment consisted of a measuring device that had been issued to each of us, which hung from a strap on our belts: a small rectangle of black metal with a glass-covered hole in the middle. If the hole glowed red, we had thirty minutes to remove ourselves to “a safe place.” We were not told what the device measured or why we should be afraid should it glow red. After the first few hours, I had grown so used to it that I hadn’t looked at it again. We had been forbidden watches and compasses.

When we reached the camp, we set about replacing obsolete or damaged equipment with what we had brought and putting up our own tents. We would rebuild the sheds later, once we were sure that Area X had not affected us. The members of the last expedition had eventually drifted off, one by one. Over time, they had returned to their families, so strictly speaking they did not vanish. They simply disappeared from Area X and, by unknown means, reappeared back in the world beyond the border. They could not relate the specifics of that journey. This transference had taken place across a period of eighteen months, and it was not something that had been experienced by prior expeditions. But other phenomena could also result in “premature dissolution of expeditions,” as our superiors put it, so we needed to test our stamina for that place.

We also needed to acclimate ourselves to the environment. In the forest near base camp one might encounter black bears or coyotes. You might hear a sudden croak and watch a night heron startle from a tree branch and, distracted, step on a poisonous snake, of which there were at least six varieties. Bogs and streams hid huge aquatic reptiles, and so we were careful not to wade too deep to collect our water samples. Still, these aspects of the ecosystem did not really concern any of us. Other elements had the ability to unsettle, however. Long ago, towns had existed here, and we encountered eerie signs of human habitation: rotting cabins with sunken, red-tinged roofs, rusted wagon-wheel spokes half-buried in the dirt, and the barely seen outlines of what used to be enclosures for livestock, now mere ornament for layers of pine-needle loam.

Far worse, though, was a low, powerful moaning at dusk. The wind off the sea and the odd interior stillness dulled our ability to gauge direction, so that the sound seemed to infiltrate the black water that soaked the cypress trees. This water was so dark we could see our faces in it, and it never stirred, set like glass, reflecting the beards of gray moss that smothered the cypress trees. If you looked out through these areas, toward the ocean, all you saw was the black water, the gray of the cypress trunks, and the constant, motionless rain of moss flowing down. All you heard was the low moaning. The effect of this cannot be understood without being there. The beauty of it cannot be understood, either, and when you see beauty in desolation it changes something inside you. Desolation tries to colonize you.

As noted, we found the tower in a place just before the forest became waterlogged and then turned to salt marsh. This occurred on our fourth day after reaching base camp, by which time we had almost gotten our bearings. We did not expect to find anything there, based on both the maps that we brought with us and the water-stained, pine-dust-smeared documents our predecessors had left behind. But there it was, surrounded by a fringe of scrub grass, half-hidden by fallen moss off to the left of the trail: a circular block of some grayish stone seeming to mix cement and ground-up seashells. It measured roughly sixty feet in diameter, this circular block, and was raised from ground level by about eight inches. Nothing had been etched into or written on its surface that could in any way reveal its purpose or the identity of its makers. Starting at due north, a rectangular opening set into the surface of the block revealed stairs spiraling down into darkness. The entrance was obscured by the webs of banana spiders and debris from storms, but a cool draft came from below.

At first, only I saw it as a tower. I don’t know why the word tower came to me, given that it tunneled into the ground. I could as easily have considered it a bunker or a submerged building. Yet as soon as I saw the staircase, I remembered the lighthouse on the coast and had a sudden vision of the last expedition drifting off, one by one, and sometime thereafter the ground shifting in a uniform and preplanned way to leave the lighthouse standing where it had always been but depositing this underground part of it inland. I saw this in vast and intricate detail as we all stood there, and, looking back, I mark it as the first irrational thought I had once we had reached our destination.

“This is impossible,” said the surveyor, staring at her maps. The solid shade of late afternoon cast her in cool darkness and lent the words more urgency than they would have had otherwise. The sun was telling us soon we’d have to use our flashlights to interrogate the impossible, although I’d have been perfectly happy doing it in the dark.

“And yet there it is,” I said. “Unless we are having a mass hallucination.”

“The architectural model is hard to identify,” the anthropologist said. “The materials are ambiguous, indicating local origin but not necessarily local construction. Without going inside, we will not know if it is primitive or modern, or something in between. I’m not sure I would want to guess at how old it is, either.”

We had no way to inform our superiors about this discovery. One rule for an expedition into Area X was that we were to attempt no outside contact, for fear of some irrevocable contamination. We also took little with us that matched our current level of technology. We had no cell or satellite phones, no computers, no camcorders, no complex measuring instruments except for those strange black boxes hanging from our belts. Our cameras required a makeshift darkroom. The absence of cell phones in particular made the real world seem very far away to the others, but I had always preferred to live without them. For weapons, we had knives, a locked container of antique handguns, and one assault rifle, this last a reluctant concession to current security standards.

It was expected simply that we would keep a record, like this one, in a journal, like this one: lightweight but nearly indestructible, with waterproof paper, a flexible black-and-white cover, and the blue horizontal lines for writing and the red line to the left to mark the margin. These journals would either return with us or be recovered by the next expedition. We had been cautioned to provide maximum context, so that anyone ignorant of Area X could understand our accounts. We had also been ordered not to share our journal entries with one another. Too much shared information could skew our observations, our superiors believed. But I knew from experience how hopeless this pursuit, this attempt to weed out bias, was. Nothing that lived and breathed was truly objective—even in a vacuum, even if all that possessed the brain was a self-immolating desire for the truth.

“I’m excited by this discovery,” the psychologist interjected before we had discussed the tower much further. “Are you excited, too?” She had not asked us that particular question before. During training, she had tended to ask questions more like “How calm do you think you might be in an emergency?” Back then, I had felt as if she were a bad actor, playing a role. Now it seemed even more apparent, as if being our leader somehow made her nervous.

“It is definitely exciting . . . and unexpected,” I said, trying not to mock her and failing, a little. I was surprised to feel a sense of growing unease, mostly because in my imagination, my dreams, this discovery would have been among the more banal. In my head, before we had crossed the border, I had seen so many things: vast cities, peculiar animals, and, once, during a period of illness, an enormous monster that rose from the waves to bear down on our camp.

The surveyor, meanwhile, just shrugged and would not answer the psychologist’s question. The anthropologist nodded as if she agreed with me. The entrance to the tower leading down exerted a kind of presence, a blank surface that let us write so many things upon it. This presence manifested like a low-grade fever, pressing down on all of us.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on August 07, 2015, 06:13 PM
A Gathering of Saints by Robert Lindsey:
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http://www.amazon.com/Gathering-Saints-Robert-Lindsey/dp/0440205581

Amazing true crime book.  Robert Lindsey also wrote the book "The Falcon and the Snowman" which blew my mind as a teenager.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 11, 2015, 07:31 AM
Not so much a book, but worth sharing.

Arthur C. Clark's 31-word scifi story (courtesy of OpenCulture):

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 11, 2015, 01:22 PM
I am reading Lies Inc (http://www.amazon.com/Lies-Inc-Philip-K-Dick/dp/0547572565) by Philip K. Dick, again.  Mainly due to the lack of interesting paperback SciFi in the Library.  Small paperbacks are easier to lug around.  Of the PKD SciFi books on the shelf this is the one I have read the fewest times.  Perhaps once or twice a couple of decades ago.

I need to find a fresh SciFi author soon.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on August 11, 2015, 03:02 PM
I just started on Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8520610-quiet). I'm only a couple pages into Chapter 1 (but I read the introduction) and it seems like it will be an interesting book.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 11, 2015, 05:28 PM
I need to find a fresh SciFi author soon.

I downloaded IceCream EBook Reader (http://icecreamapps.com/Ebook-Reader/) and some PDK eBooks.  Yay!! :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on August 12, 2015, 04:31 AM
I just started on Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8520610-quiet). I'm only a couple pages into Chapter 1 (but I read the introduction) and it seems like it will be an interesting book.
_____________________________

I'd be interested in what you make of the book after reading it.
The title of the book caught my attention as it echoed what I have often said to myself and others: "Why can't people stop from talking all the time and just allow themselves to take time to think?"

I was able to form some kind of idea of what the book was about from reading the introduction and excerpts at the link (thanks for providing that). Reading the book could potentially be quite self-revealing, I suppose, or it might just be a feel-good sop pandering to the self-absorbed or the insecure/uncertain who may be concerned about whether they are extrovert/introvert - "Oh dear, maybe I'm not OK?" - like (say) one being unsure as to whether one was gay. ("Oh, I so badly want to be an extrovert and be accepted!")

I have to say that, after studying psychology, pragmatically it doesn't seem to matter a toss whether I or anyone else is extrovert/introvert. It can lead to insidious labelling. I always considered myself - and still do - to be a relative introvert (prefer to read a book than see the movie version; prefer to stay at home than go out; tend to avoid attending and wasting my time in potentially unnecessary groups/parties/meetings; tend to be quiet in groups and discussions unless there is a valid and useful point that I feel needs to be made and is being overlooked, etc.) - and yet I come out strongly labelled as an ENTJ on the Myers-Briggs psychometric tests, and so heavily skewed in the "T" that two psychologists (who were testing me for vocational aptitude) separately treated me like a peculiar lab specimen and said that I was in a small group of 4% of the population tested. It seems to be related to a strong locus of internal control and the Asperger syndrome, or something.
So, regardless of what I might know myself to be, I am forever labelled as an Extrovert by the forced dichotomy of the theoretical Myers-Briggs model, where the population distribution of introvert/extrovert is apparently around 50/50.

As a skeptic and as a student of psychology, I remind myself that psychology is arguably mostly BS - psychobabble - in a field where there seems to be little that can be scientifically proven (i.e., using scientific method) - and seems to be just lots of theory, interspersed with dollops of hokum here and there. Fortunately some of that theory has shown itself  to be potentially and remarkably useful as tools for helping us to address our own character deficiencies or personality disorders under professional guidance from a psychiatrist, so that we can better cope with Life's challenges - e.g., as outlined in The Road Less Travelled (http://www.amazon.com/Road-Less-Traveled-Timeless-Edition/dp/0743243153), by M. Scott Peck.
Anything that can help you to change yourself and grow arguably can't be all bad, but it could be a double-edged sword - like a divorce, which might generate developmental dissonance for one person, or destructive dissonance for another.
 
So my suggestion would be to disregard the unproven (yet apparently "well-researched"!    :o   ) premise of the book that the world is made up of introverts/extroverts and that this is somehow very important, and avoid reading oneself as a self-deduced introvert/extrovert into the book. Take it with a pinch of salt, and then get an arguably more important and entirely rational perspective by reading I'm OK, You're OK (http://www.amazon.com/Im-OK-Youre-OK-Thomas-Harris/dp/0060724277) by the late Thomas Harris, who was a Navy psychiatrist and a professor at the University of Arkansas. He practiced psychiatry in Sacramento, California and directed the Transactional Analysis Association.
I'm OK, You're OK by Thomas Anthony Harris is one of the best selling self-help books ever published. It is a practical guide to Transactional Analysis as a method for solving problems in life. From its first publication during 1969, the popularity of I'm OK, You're OK gradually increased until, during 1972, its name made the New York Times Best Seller list and remained there for almost two years. It is estimated by the publisher to have sold over 15 million copies to date and to have been translated into over a dozen languages. -
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_OK,_You're_OK)
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I'm OK, You're OK was required reading for my studies, since when the theory has been extensively developed in greater detail by academics. Not only did it give me a good grounding in the theory of TA (transactional analysis), but also, when I applied it to myself and my interactions with others, it transformed my outlook on life (for the better). I still use it (TA), and I have taught it to my 13½ y/o daughter, who readily grasped the concepts. It's not complicated, and it can be amazingly effective.
I have even explained the TA theory to others who have been having difficulty in coping with their social interrelationships (e.g., in marriage), and watched in awe as comprehension dawns, the lights come on, and they go off and fix up their own problems.
"Thank you so much for telling me about and showing me that book", as one recently-wed boss of mine said, when I explained that a recurring pointless argumentative dialogue she described having with her new husband fitted the definition of a script in TA theory, and was potentially damaging to the relationship and was avoidable.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on August 12, 2015, 03:51 PM
I'm currently reading reamde (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15810595-reamde). As other stuff by Neal Stephenson, it's pretty great, and even at page 380/1044 I'm not entirely sure exactly what the story is about, or how it's going to unfold - and that in a positive sense. It also features at least one shootout scene, which I'm not usually too big a fan of in books... but it's great in this one.

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Richard Forthrast, a multi-millionaire marijuana smuggler, has parlayed his wealth into an empire by developing T'Rain, a billion-dollar online role-playing game with legions of fans around the world.

But T'Rain's success has also made it a target. Hackers have struck gold, unleashing REAMDE, a virus that encrypts all of a player's electronic files and holds them for ransom. They have also unwittingly triggered a deadly war beyond the boundaries of the game's virtual universe - and Richard is caught in the crossfire. Racing around the globe from the Pacific Northwest to China to the wilds of northern Idaho, Reamde traverses worlds virtual and real. Filled with unexpected twists and turns in which computer hackers and mobsters, entrepreneurs and religious fundamentalists face off in a battle for survival, Reamde is a brilliant refraction of the twenty-first century.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 12, 2015, 04:08 PM
I read The Variable Man (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32154) by Philip K. Dick today.  A nice read that may be completed in one sitting.  Also it has the advantage of being a free download, in several formats, from Project Gutenberg.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 24, 2015, 07:19 PM
I have kind of read out the SciFi section in the city library.  Due to the desire for a small, light, paperback with easy to read dark print I have resorted to reading The Time Machine by H. G. Wells yet again.  Oh well.  It is a short read and it has been awhile since the last time.

Edit: It is nice to have the eBooks by PKD but it is not always convenient to plug in the Laptop and all that business.  With hard copy I can enjoy sitting on a bench and reading.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on September 08, 2015, 05:12 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on September 08, 2015, 01:17 PM
I'm currently reading reamde (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15810595-reamde). As other stuff by Neal Stephenson, it's pretty great, and even at page 380/1044 I'm not entirely sure exactly what the story is about, or how it's going to unfold - and that in a positive sense. It also features at least one shootout scene, which I'm not usually too big a fan of in books... but it's great in this one.

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Richard Forthrast, a multi-millionaire marijuana smuggler, has parlayed his wealth into an empire by developing T'Rain, a billion-dollar online role-playing game with legions of fans around the world.

But T'Rain's success has also made it a target. Hackers have struck gold, unleashing REAMDE, a virus that encrypts all of a player's electronic files and holds them for ransom. They have also unwittingly triggered a deadly war beyond the boundaries of the game's virtual universe - and Richard is caught in the crossfire. Racing around the globe from the Pacific Northwest to China to the wilds of northern Idaho, Reamde traverses worlds virtual and real. Filled with unexpected twists and turns in which computer hackers and mobsters, entrepreneurs and religious fundamentalists face off in a battle for survival, Reamde is a brilliant refraction of the twenty-first century.


Give his book Cryptonomicon a try after you finish readme. Excellent read. His The Diamond Age is also pretty good. :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on September 08, 2015, 01:55 PM
Just finished The Islanders by Christopher Priest.

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Odd meta-novel. Part gazette, part almanac, part semi-linked short story/essay collection that hangs together particularly well, although in a very peculiar way. Another one of those books I personally like that you'll either love or hate. Hard to classify as to subject or style. For lack of a better word, I'd call it "experimental."

On the surface it's a guidebook to the Dream Archipelago, a vast collection of islands located in the Midway Sea, on an unnamed earth-like world. This archipelago has some unusual features such as being generally impossible to map or catalog. It also displays temporal and spatial contractions and discontinuities in seemingly random fashion.

To the north is an unnamed super-continent which is home to approximately 60 nations, several of which are constantly in a state of war with each other. To the south is another mostly arctic super-continent named Sudmaieure. Sudmaieure is uninhabited. It's only use is to serve as a battleground for various warring northern nations who would prefer to conduct their hostilities with each other outside their geographic borders in order to avoid civilian casualties and damage to their infrastructure and cities. One feature of the Dream Archipelago is the constant coming and goings of warships and troop transports shuttling young military forces and frightening warmaking technologies to the hot wars being conducted in the southern continent. It is generally believed that the troops who are sent there seldom return - although even that, like everything else in this book, is not an established fact.

The Archipelago is officially neutral by covenant, and remains out of the northern conflicts. Although that doesn't stop various northern nations from occupying, annexing, or establishing bases at will wherever they feel the need - something the island nations protest vehemently but basically have no power to prevent - any more than they can the mysterious drone flights (ostensibly for mapping purposes) that are seen everywhere in the archipelago - although nobody really knows what they're up there for.

Inside this framework, anything and everything goes. Some sections read like a tour guide for a particular island. Several are disjointed pieces of larger tales that straddle various islands or characters the reader meets along the way. All in all, a crazy jigsaw puzzle of impressions, narrative, and character development.

I don't know whether this book is an allegory, simply brilliant, or just Christopher Priest using up his collection of snippets and story pieces which he never expanded into full novels. But whatever it is, I found it a really enjoyable albeit different sort of book. And I was actually disappointed when I reached the end. First, because I really enjoyed the journey the book took me on. And second, because I still had so many intriguing questions left unanswered.

If you're the sort who demands closure and a general 'tidying up' by the end of a book you'll really be annoyed by this one.

Publisher's Weekly had this to say:

British novelist Priest (The Prestige) creates a mind-bending, head-scratching book (already much lauded in the U.K.) that pretends to be a gazetteer of the Dream Archipelago, uncountable islands spread around a world whose temporal and spatial anomalies make such a project futile. The dispassionate descriptions of separate islands include odd references out of which it's possible to begin assembling a cast of characters: maniac artists, social reformers, murderers, scientific researchers, and passionate lovers. Some of these categories overlap, and all the actors are maddeningly fragmented, apt to fade away or flash intensely to life. Interpolated bits of directly personal narratives sometimes clarify and sometimes muddy the story (or stories), while uncanny events struggle to escape the gazetteers' avowedly objective control and Priest's elegant, cool prose. The result is wonderfully fascinating, if occasionally frustrating, and entirely unforgettable.[

Not for everyone. But highly recommended.  8)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on September 14, 2015, 05:44 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on September 14, 2015, 06:49 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on October 05, 2015, 08:11 AM
Just read "The Golden Ticket: P, NP, and the Search for the Impossible (http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Ticket-NP-Search-Impossible/dp/0691156492)", by Lance Fortnow 2013

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http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Ticket-NP-Search-Impossible/dp/0691156492

It's a book that discusses the P vs NP problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_versus_NP_problem) -- a very important problem in computer science and mathematics, having to do with how easy or hard it is to solve certain algorithmic problems (see wikipedia page here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_versus_NP_problem))..

I disliked the book thoroughly -- felt very lazy and unserious to me.  Early on the author blithely says he chooses not to define the problem of P vs NP and then spends 20 or 30 pages making up fiction about how cool it would be in a world where P = NP.  Just a lot of silly and very little substance.  I expected more and better historical background.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on October 05, 2015, 02:58 PM
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The Forever War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War)

It looks like they may finally be making a movie from it.

I am only 30 or 40 pages in.  But the writing style is fine and the plot does not lag.  It may bother some people that the future dates used in the story have gone by and we still don't have faster than light space travel.  It doesn't bother me.  It is a novel after all.  I don't see that the dates matter.

Edit:  But it may be part of the genius of H.G. Wells that his hero in The Time Machine traveled way into the future like 80,000 years A.D. or something like that.  It will take a long time for the critics to complain about the future date arriving and the predictions being off the mark.  Also Wells has the advantage of being dead.  Much easier to maintain a deaf ear with that strategy.  ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on October 05, 2015, 03:22 PM
It looks like they may finally be making a movie from it.
I hope they don't - it's a pretty good book, no reason to screw it up with a bad teal-and-orange Hollywood crapover :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on October 05, 2015, 05:51 PM
It looks like they may finally be making a movie from it.
I hope they don't - it's a pretty good book, no reason to screw it up with a bad teal-and-orange Hollywood crapover :)

Yeah.  Once in awhile they surprise me with a decent adaptation.  But not often enough.  :)

That reminds me when I saw Ayn Rand at Ford Hall Forum in Boston.  She took questions from the audience after her lecture.  The person asked about the status of the rights to Atlas Shrugged.  She answered "safely in my possession."  Of course that got a round of applause and cheers.  I watched the first third of the Shrugged movie trilogy.  I won't bother with the rest.  Other than money changing hands I did not see the point of making that flick.  A puppet show would have done a better job of conveying the ideas.  And I always hated puppet shows.  :)

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on October 21, 2015, 03:14 AM
If anyone is interested:
Dedoimedo is giving his books for free:
http://www.thelostwordsbooks.com/2015/10/17/more-free-books-2/
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on October 21, 2015, 07:58 AM
Dedoimedo

I get "server not found" on that link.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: ewemoa on October 21, 2015, 08:11 AM
http://www.thelostwordsbooks.com/2015/10/17/more-free-books-2/

FWIW, the above worked from here.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on October 21, 2015, 08:23 AM
http://www.thelostwordsbooks.com/2015/10/17/more-free-books-2/

FWIW, the above worked from here.

Looks like some DNS lookup issues on the WiFi.  This link works for me now but I have the same error from another link in a PM on DC.  Weird.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on October 27, 2015, 06:00 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on November 07, 2015, 05:17 PM
Philosophy of Set Theory (http://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Set-Theory-Introduction-Mathematics/dp/0486435202):
Thin stuff, not for the faint of heart; some good sections but mostly confusing.
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Labyrinth of Thought: A History of Set Theory: (http://www.amazon.com/Labyrinth-Thought-History-Theory-Mathematics/dp/3764383496/)
Very hard to get purchase here without a better background in the history of the math.
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Surfing Uncertainty, Prediction, Action, and the Embodied Mind: (http://www.amazon.com/Surfing-Uncertainty-Prediction-Action-Embodied/dp/0190217014)
Just started it but so far it's excellent.
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More Than Two: A practical guide to ethical polyamory (http://www.amazon.com/More-Than-Two-practical-polyamory/dp/0991399706/)
Interesting and very nicely written; useful for getting a perspective on an alternate lifestyle
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on November 11, 2015, 03:16 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on November 12, 2015, 07:00 AM
I have found another Sci Fi author with a series of novels that I enjoy.

The Joe Haldeman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Haldeman) novels I have read:

Forever War
Accidental Time Machine
Camouflage

I just finished Camouflage.  I will go to the library later today for yet another Haldeman novel.  :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on November 30, 2015, 10:29 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on November 30, 2015, 12:16 PM
I just finished reading Faster Than Light (http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Light-John-Lucas/dp/1903517117) by John Lucas again.

It may have been written for high school students judging by the humor.  But I enjoyed it.  The "exit interview" on the first page got me hooked.  If you hate the first couple of pages move on because the whole story is done in the same style.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on November 30, 2015, 01:59 PM
Mike Hernandez's classic Database Design for Mere Mortals: A Hands-On Guide to Relational Database Design Still the single best book on the topic of relational database design AFAIC. Now in its 3rd edition. I'm reading it to see what's changed since the previous two editions - both of which I own and read. :

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And purely for recreation, Haven Kimmel's A Girl Named Zippy. One of the best coming of age autobiographical essays ever. There isn't a page without at least one funny anecdote of quotable sentence on it.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on December 01, 2015, 04:49 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on December 14, 2015, 09:57 PM
Mike Hernandez's classic Database Design for Mere Mortals: A Hands-On Guide to Relational Database Design Still the single best book on the topic of relational database design AFAIC. Now in its 3rd edition. I'm reading it to see what's changed since the previous two editions - both of which I own and read. :

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Hey, please do report back on anything interesting.

I was doing some data work for someone recently, and was screaming inside about how awful the data was. This stuff should have been in the 6th normal form and it was in the 2nd. (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/WALLBASH.GIF)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on December 15, 2015, 06:49 AM
Back with Joe Haldeman.  The first of the Mars trilogy

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Post by: MilesAhead on December 17, 2015, 04:14 PM
Volume 2 of Joe Haldeman's Mars Bound trilogy

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on December 18, 2015, 12:51 AM
Volume 2 of Joe Haldeman's Mars Bound trilogy

Damn! You're either a VERY fast reader or you have a lot of time on your hands!

Then again, I did read a fiction book a few months ago, and it was quite quick to get through. (I think I posted it above.) About all of my reading is technical, and it takes me a while to get through it. :(
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on December 18, 2015, 06:45 AM
Damn! You're either a VERY fast reader or you have a lot of time on your hands!

Slow reader with lots of time  :)
These are only @275 pp or so.  A good size for the suitcase.  Even hardback isn't too heavy to drag.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on December 21, 2015, 05:14 AM
Free e-books if anyone is interested:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LPUX7OA?qid=1450288819&ref_=sr_1_8&s=digital-text&sr=1-8

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PE1QOE/

https://www.amazon.com/Wounded-Animals-Whistleblower-Book-1-ebook/dp/B00VQL7LOA/ref=sr_1_35?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1450325178&sr=1-35

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on December 26, 2015, 12:55 PM
Free e-books if anyone is interested:
@panzer,
I cross posted your links to a Free eBooks (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=38715.msg394013#msg394013) thread
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on December 26, 2015, 01:34 PM
I'm just after finishing Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue (http://www.amazon.com/Our-Magnificent-Bastard-Tongue-History/dp/1592404944/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451156298&sr=8-1&keywords=Our+Magnificent+Bastard+Tongue) The Untold History of English by John McWhorter (amazon link).

The main topic is the evolution of English grammar -- the way he writes suggests he's proposing theories that are not generally accepted. Writing style a bit odd at times, but I got used to it. Well worth reading imo :up:

Two main points are that, compared to Proto-Germanic, (the ancestor of all Germanic languages) and also to other modern Germanic languages:

English gained from the native Celtic languages:

and English lost via the Vikings (more info below):
The Viking theory involve a huge influx of adults who learned the language fairly poorly and passed this on to their kids. A different but comparable modern example being when immigrants want to give their children the new language, and they haven't already learned it well themselves, the children tend to learn a simplified version of same.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Attronarch on January 20, 2016, 08:59 AM
Just finished:

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Currently reading:

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on February 11, 2016, 11:14 PM
Decided to try to refresh some of my high-school and college math skills.  Read a couple of very lightweight intro books on statistics.. next up is some calculus.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on February 12, 2016, 03:59 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on February 12, 2016, 08:09 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on February 18, 2016, 03:13 AM
Reading another book about English, this time about the future of the language: how it's changing in different ways all over the world; that it may even evolve into various languages.
The Prodigal Tongue: Dispatches from the Future of English (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prodigal-Tongue-Dispatches-Future-English/dp/0099484463/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455786641&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Prodigal+Tongue%3A+Dispatches+from+the+Future+of+English) (amazon)

This one is beautifully written, a pleasure to read. Moving all over the world, currently in Singapore exploring 'Singlish'.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on February 18, 2016, 07:37 AM
I seem to be running out of Joe Haldeman.  He is supposed to have authored some 60 odd novels.  But what is convenient to get out of the public library is drying up.

I am trying another scifi author Elizabeth Moon.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on February 19, 2016, 03:34 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on February 29, 2016, 03:59 PM
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Little more than 10 years after the first powered flight, aircraft were pressed into service in World War I. Nearly forgotten in the war's massive overall death toll, some 50,000 aircrew would die in the combatant nations' fledgling air forces. The romance of aviation had a remarkable grip on the public imagination, propaganda focusing on gallant air 'aces' who became national heroes. The reality was horribly different. "Marked For Death" debunks popular myth to explore the brutal truths of wartime aviation: of flimsy aircraft and unprotected pilots who had no parachutes; of burning 19-year-olds falling screaming to their deaths; of pilots freezing and disorientated as they flew across enemy lines at 15,000 feet. James Hamilton-Paterson also reveals how four years of war produced profound changes both in the aircraft themselves and in military attitudes and strategy. By 1918 it was widely accepted that domination of the air above the battle-field was crucial to military success, a realization that would change the nature of warfare for ever.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on February 29, 2016, 04:05 PM
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Unexpected detail: the book was first published in 1897.  The first few chapters purport to be the journal of a newly-qualified solicitor temporarily practicing as an estate agent.  Even then, he carried a "Kodak" camera (a model introduced in 1888) for photographing property.  Estate agents' windows full of photos of houses must be a much older phenomenon than I expected.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on February 29, 2016, 05:17 PM
what is convenient to get out of the public library is drying up.
Advanced Book Exchange (ABE) (http://www.abebooks.com/) :)

I am trying another scifi author

In case you don't already know them:

Jack McDevitt (http://www.sfwa.org/members/McDevitt/)
Jack McDevitt on fantasticfiction (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/m/jack-mcdevitt/)

Adam Roberts (http://www.adamroberts.com/)
Adam Roberts on fantasticfiction (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/r/adam-roberts/)
Especially his first three novels, Salt, On, and Stone.  In particular don't miss On; it's truly extraordinary.

Paul McAuley (http://www.unlikelyworlds.co.uk/)
Paul McAuley's blog: Earth and other unlikely worlds (http://www.unlikelyworlds.blogspot.com/)
Paul McAuley on fantasticfiction (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/m/paul-j-mcauley/)


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on February 29, 2016, 05:24 PM
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Little more than 10 years after the first powered flight, aircraft were pressed into service in World War I. Nearly forgotten in the war's massive overall death toll, some 50,000 aircrew would die in the combatant nations' fledgling air forces. The romance of aviation had a remarkable grip on the public imagination, propaganda focusing on gallant air 'aces' who became national heroes. The reality was horribly different. "Marked For Death" debunks popular myth to explore the brutal truths of wartime aviation: of flimsy aircraft and unprotected pilots who had no parachutes; of burning 19-year-olds falling screaming to their deaths; of pilots freezing and disorientated as they flew across enemy lines at 15,000 feet. James Hamilton-Paterson also reveals how four years of war produced profound changes both in the aircraft themselves and in military attitudes and strategy. By 1918 it was widely accepted that domination of the air above the battle-field was crucial to military success, a realization that would change the nature of warfare for ever.


I've been looking at this for a while - how is the book?  I couldn't decide if I wanted to read it or not.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on February 29, 2016, 08:20 PM
I found a more recent Joe Haldeman novel.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51MqBCMOQZL._SX329_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/Work-Done-Hire-Joe-Haldeman/dp/042525688X)

It uses the "novel within a novel" approach.  The protagonist is an author writing a novel etc..  I won't give anymore details to avoid spoilers.  This one was published in 2014.  I am about 4/5 of the way through it.  Entertaining reading if you don't mind graphic descriptions when characters are killed.  But if you ever read any of his novels you are already aware of that "pitfall" if that term is appropriate.  :)


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on March 01, 2016, 02:35 PM
I've been looking at this for a while - how is the book?  I couldn't decide if I wanted to read it or not.
Informative, interesting, even fascinating, but grim, as anything to do with the First World War would be.  The author doesn't purvey triumphalist BS or derring-do, but tells it like it was, using a vast array of documents from the time, including quite a few memoirs from the airmen themselves.  It took me a while to read as it's hardly lightweight, but it's well and clearly written.  Includes unusual areas such as the physiology of flying, which was as little understood at the time as aerodynamics.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on March 01, 2016, 04:21 PM
@rjbull: re Bram Stoker's book "Dracula".
I had got this book for $FREE on the Kindle, and my now 14½ y/o daughter Lily recently finished reading it during the school holidays. She found it "unputdownable". The narrative, story, character development - everything - was, she said, really good. She also found its description of a sinister, remorseless evil to be quite scary.
I had similarly enjoyed the book when I was 13 y/o, or so. In my view, the many vampire films - from Nosferatu (1922) onwards - have generally failed to meet the standard for gripping, creepy horror set by the book.
I suspect this is probably because the story in the book captivates the imagination and encourages the mind to conjure up mental images and feelings/emotions from the story, in ways that are difficult to replicate in a film medium.
Thus, despite the plethora of vampire movies - the formulaic Hammer Horror ones being typical examples - there tend to be only a few vampire movies that stand out as being exceptionally good.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on March 01, 2016, 07:56 PM
We've been reading "Jane Eyre", by Charlotte Bronte.
In searching for reviews of Jane Eyre, as part of my assisting my daughter with her reading programme, I just now came across something quite interesting that is in the book that either had entirely escaped me before, or which I simply had not read/understood. I certainly do not recall having read it: The book includes a pretty balanced approach to revealing the fallacy of the Christian teaching of "Turning the other cheek".

My attention was drawn to this by reading a post in drhurd.com: Jane Eyre Exposes the Fallacy of Turning the Other Cheek (Charlotte Bronte) (https://drhurd.com/2016/02/21/58140/)
Posted on February 21, 2016
“If people were always kind and obedient to those who are cruel and unjust, the wicked people would have it all their own way: they would never feel afraid, and so they would never alter, but would grow worse and worse. When we are struck at without a reason, we should strike back again very hard; I am sure we should–so hard as to teach the person who struck us never to do it again.” [said Jane Eyre]

“You will change your mind, I hope, when you grow older: as yet you are but a little untaught girl.”

“But I feel this, Helen; I must dislike those who, whatever I do to please them, persist in disliking me; I must resist those who punish me unjustly. It is as natural as that I should love those who show me affection, or submit to punishment when I feel it is deserved.”

“Heathens and savage tribes hold that doctrine, but Christians and civilised nations disown it.”

“How? I don’t understand.”

“It is not violence that best overcomes hate–nor vengeance that most certainly heals injury.”

“What then?”

“Read the New Testament, and observe what Christ says, and how He acts; make His word your rule, and His conduct your example.”

“What does He say?”

“Love your enemies; bless them that curse you; do good to them that hate you and despitefully use you.”

“Then I should love Mrs. Reed [Jane’s abusive aunt and foster parent], which I cannot do; I should bless her [abusive, bullying] son John, which is impossible.”

— from Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte
______________________________
This artificial discussion does not seem to be polemic or propaganda, but merely puts both sides of the issue out in the open using the device of a fictitious discussion between an adult (a Christian) and a child - viz: the Turn the Other Cheek Christian teaching on the one hand, and, on the other hand, why this may not be pragmatic/rational in our everyday life (particularly in the world of reducing peace that we might find ourselves in today).

This, for me, leads to a perfect example of why reading widely and making connections between what one reads is likely to be beneficial for developing an improved understanding of the de facto philosophical challenges that we are likely to face in life, and so I pointed it out to my daughter - because she is studying philosophy at school this year - as a useful teaching point when read together with a news item that I had read recently and with two of the other books that she refers to from time to time (and which I encourage) - which are the Bible and the Koran.

The news item was from an interview with an orthodox Christian man living with his family in Syria (the Middle East), and what his response was when ISIS (jihadist soldiers of orthodox Islam) had taken over his home town. He reported that of the thousands of Christians living there, his was one of only about 50 families that had decided to remain. They had been faced with three options:

The Syrian Christian decided to take the 2nd option - the stigmatising and prejudicial jizya tax, and he and his family were "safe" under the protection of the Caliphate (rather like the Mafia), as long as his annual jizya tax had been paid and was still current - like a licence to practice Christianity.
If that 2nd option had not existed, then it would have been the 1st option - i.e., flee as a refugee, leaving one's property behind (which would be expropriated by the Caliphate) - because the 3rd option (renounce Christianity and submit to Islam) would presumably have been untenable to an Orthodox Christian.

The "Jane Eyre moment f truth" here is the realisation that nowhere in this is the response of "turning the other cheek" likely to be an appropriate or acceptable or even useful response - if one values the lives of one's family and oneself. That is, the foe that one faces and who curses you may have an infinite appetite for your extinction, and thus "turning the other cheek" could be interpreted as a weak response and a sign of weakness, and would thus be at best a useless response and at worst a response inviting death.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on March 08, 2016, 11:12 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on March 08, 2016, 11:37 AM
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I just finished this yesterday.  I really enjoyed it.  Just for the sake of accuracy, I read the hardcover print edition.

Spoiler
This novel has a cool plot gimmick.  I won't give it away entirely.  Just imagine The Old Jedi Mind Trick(tm) taken to its logical conclusion.



Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on March 09, 2016, 03:21 AM
Free e-books:

http://www.amazon.com/Happier-Than-Yesterday-Secrets-Happiest-ebook/dp/B01CN2PP6Q (free until Friday)

http://www.amazon.com/ACTION-Frank-Blondie-Bradley-Hours-ebook/dp/B011MNZMYW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1457448976&sr=8-3&keywords=isabella+vedichi (free until March 11th)

http://www.amazon.com/Blackhand-Hourglass-Novellas-Sommer-Nectarhoff-ebook/dp/B01CKKNCOI/ref=la_B00MSLRQBA_1_18?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1457446129&sr=1-18&refinements=p_82%3AB00MSLRQBA
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on March 09, 2016, 09:22 AM
http://www.amazon.co...rds=isabella+vedichi (free until March 11th)

Somehow a "crash" course in C++ doesn't bring to mind robust programming techniques.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on March 10, 2016, 05:01 AM
Free e-books:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ADPADHQ (free only today)

http://www.amazon.com/Coincidence-Makers-Yoav-Blum-ebook/dp/B014E5VMVW/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1457607830&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Coincidence+Makers (free today)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XD01LZM (free until March 12th)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on March 10, 2016, 03:01 PM
Free e-books:
Declutter Your Mind: Twelve Secret Steps to Clear Mental Clutter for A Lifetime of Peace and Bliss (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ADPADHQ) (free only today)

The Coincidence Makers (http://www.amazon.com/Coincidence-Makers-Yoav-Blum-ebook/dp/B014E5VMVW/) (free today)

Guitar: For Beginners (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XD01LZM) (free until March 12th)

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on March 10, 2016, 04:58 PM
And purely for recreation, Haven Kimmel's A Girl Named Zippy. One of the best coming of age autobiographical essays ever. There isn't a page without at least one funny anecdote of quotable sentence on it.

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hadnt this post before today 40:
just read this book lately (was put off by the cover, but I'm slow to refuse a book in English) and it *is* a seriously enjoyable book. Not at all as wholesome as the cover suggests (sort of prefect 1950's) but wholesome in a much more down to earth and real manner. Will read again at some stage (cant give higher praise really).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on March 18, 2016, 05:14 AM
Free e-book:
http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Cell-Wade-Hanna-Book-ebook/dp/B01866XTXE/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 (free until March 21th)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on March 18, 2016, 07:53 AM
Elizabeth Moon short stories

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YN%2BAePxKL._SX336_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/Moon-Flights-Elizabeth/dp/1597801100)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on April 15, 2016, 09:35 AM
http://www.amazon.com/510-Creative-Writing-Prompts-Experienced-ebook/dp/B00ZAYEV2E/ref=sr_1_6_twi_kin_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460723162&sr=8-6&keywords=writing+prompts (free until April 19th)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on April 25, 2016, 08:06 AM
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EKNN4LE (free until April 28th)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2334GO (free until the end of the week)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X2G2JCQ
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 25, 2016, 01:51 PM
I have been reading books on Time Travel to pass the time lately.  I am about 2/3 of the way through this one.  Kind of fun.  The old "book within a book" bit with time travel thrown in.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HXpmXb3GL._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/Live-Safely-Science-Fictional-Universe/dp/0307739457)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on April 25, 2016, 02:58 PM
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EKNN4LE (free until April 28th)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2334GO (free until the end of the week)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X2G2JCQ

It would be really helpful if you'd include the titles of the books at the very least, if not a short description of what they're about so we can tell if we're interested or not. Just because a book is free doesn't mean we're interested.

And clicking links can be "dangerous" due to trackers. I don't want to click a mystery link to a product and then start seeing ads or other "you might be interested in this" links everywhere on the internet related to a product/subject that I have no interest in.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 25, 2016, 05:39 PM
@panzer, I realize you are not selling the kindle books.  But I am a bit lost.  The one free to the end of the week looks interesting.  But I have a choice of two buttons.  The second button I am familiar with.. the quickie buy with one click button.  But the first button seems to funnel me into subscribing to a $9/month service to read kindle books online.  So how do I get the $0.00 kindle book without getting the $9/month service?

I have never purchased any audio books so I am a bit naive.  My experience with audio books is from the public library.  And those were physical standard audio CDs.  :-[

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on April 25, 2016, 05:58 PM
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EKNN4LE (free until April 28th)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2334GO (free until the end of the week)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X2G2JCQ

It would be really helpful if you'd include the titles of the books at the very least, if not a short description of what they're about so we can tell if we're interested or not. Just because a book is free doesn't mean we're interested.

And clicking links can be "dangerous" due to trackers. I don't want to click a mystery link to a product and then start seeing ads or other "you might be interested in this" links everywhere on the internet related to a product/subject that I have no interest in.

Very much this.  Which in turn leads to me ignoring the post, which might actually be a good recommendation.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Shades on April 26, 2016, 03:05 PM
Own Your Self: Master Your Character, Rise To Any Challenge, Find True Inner Peace (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EKNN4LE) (free until April 28th)

The Maiden Voyage of the Destiny Unknown (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2334GO) (free until the end of the week)

Car Buying on a shoestring budget: for college kids and single parents who need reliable transportation (Auto Tips Book 1) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X2G2JCQ)

It would be really helpful if you'd include the titles of the books at the very least, if not a short description of what they're about so we can tell if we're interested or not. Just because a book is free doesn't mean we're interested.

And clicking links can be "dangerous" due to trackers. I don't want to click a mystery link to a product and then start seeing ads or other "you might be interested in this" links everywhere on the internet related to a product/subject that I have no interest in.

Very much this.  Which in turn leads to me ignoring the post, which might actually be a good recommendation.

Fixed it for you...  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on April 26, 2016, 03:46 PM
Fixed it for you...  :)

Thanks. :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on April 26, 2016, 04:27 PM
Own Your Self: Master Your Character, Rise To Any Challenge, Find True Inner Peace (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EKNN4LE) (free until April 28th)

The Maiden Voyage of the Destiny Unknown (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2334GO) (free until the end of the week)

Car Buying on a shoestring budget: for college kids and single parents who need reliable transportation (Auto Tips Book 1) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X2G2JCQ)

It would be really helpful if you'd include the titles of the books at the very least, if not a short description of what they're about so we can tell if we're interested or not. Just because a book is free doesn't mean we're interested.

And clicking links can be "dangerous" due to trackers. I don't want to click a mystery link to a product and then start seeing ads or other "you might be interested in this" links everywhere on the internet related to a product/subject that I have no interest in.

Very much this.  Which in turn leads to me ignoring the post, which might actually be a good recommendation.

Fixed it for you...  :)

Fixed what?  There doesn't seem to be any difference?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on April 26, 2016, 04:35 PM
^ the difference is in panzer's embedded quote
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on April 26, 2016, 05:16 PM
^ the difference is in panzer's embedded quote

Ah... Ok.  I didn't get that from the quoting in the post.  Thanks for clarifying!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on April 27, 2016, 09:18 AM
ACHIEVE: Find Out Who You Are, What You Really Want, And How To Make It Happen :
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EK2LPYS (free today)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on April 27, 2016, 05:36 PM
ACHIEVE: Find Out Who You Are, What You Really Want, And How To Make It Happen :
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EK2LPYS (free today)

Thanks panzer! And thanks for giving us the title, too. :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on April 28, 2016, 02:11 AM
Napoleon: A Life From Beginning To End (One Hour History Military Generals Book 2):
http://www.amazon.com/Napoleon-Beginning-History-Military-Generals-ebook/dp/B01DTLXL2U

American Revolution: A History From Beginning to End:
http://www.amazon.com/American-Revolution-Beginning-Washington-Jefferson-ebook/dp/B01DJB7ZM2/

The Crusades: A History From Beginning to End:
http://www.amazon.com/Crusades-History-Beginning-End-ebook/dp/B01BVM8PU2/

Blackhand (The Hourglass Novellas, Volume I):
http://www.amazon.com/Blackhand-Hourglass-Novellas-Sommer-Nectarhoff-ebook/dp/B01CKKNCOI/ref=la_B00MSLRQBA_1_18?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1457446129&sr=1-18&refinements=p_82%3AB00MSLRQBA
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on April 28, 2016, 02:16 AM
The super student's guides:
http://thestudentpower.com/books/
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Attronarch on April 28, 2016, 06:09 AM
Almost finished:

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Next one:

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on April 29, 2016, 11:28 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on April 30, 2016, 01:21 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on April 30, 2016, 10:16 AM
Electronics-all-in-one for Dummies:
http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-All-One-Dummies-Doug/dp/0470147040
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I figured it was time to learn some electronics.. Not a bad book at all.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 30, 2016, 01:06 PM
@mouser I'd like to see one titled "Authoring Dummies Books for Dummies."

I would write it  myself but I have some reluctance since I may not be able to surmount the publisher's resistance.  But often I give up easily saying what the flux.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on April 30, 2016, 06:08 PM
Electronics-all-in-one for Dummies:
http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-All-One-Dummies-Doug/dp/0470147040
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I figured it was time to learn some electronics.. Not a bad book at all.

I've started to get into electronics again with Mechanical Keyboards.  Might have to take a look at this.  I have purchased a few kits to help get my soldering skills back up to snuff- hadn't thought about a book.

Another resource you might want to investigate: The Living Soldering Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on May 01, 2016, 01:26 AM
The Martian Engineer's Notebook, Volume 2:
http://www.amazon.com/Martian-Engineers-Notebook-2-ebook/dp/B00UMR7EV4 (free until February 5th)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on May 01, 2016, 03:26 AM
7 Steps to Endless Motivation:
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/633466
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on May 01, 2016, 03:36 AM
@panzer, are you posting all these books just because they're free?
If so, there is a free ebooks thread here on dc: Free eBooks (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=38715.msg394013#msg394013).

Oobviously if you're reading them as you go along, this is also the correct thread to post in ;-)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on May 01, 2016, 06:23 AM
I didn't know this. I wont post here anymore ...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on May 22, 2016, 04:52 PM
Designing Tube Preamps for Guitar and Bass, 2nd Edition by Merlin Blencoe.

Rereading this one. I've been getting back into music electronics as part of my career retooling effort. This is probably the best single book I've ever found on those little high-voltage wonders that make guitars and basses sing. Highly recommended.

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For recreation (if you're a Mythos fan) Apotheosis: Stories of Human Survival After The Rise of The Elder Gods edited by Jason Andrew.

Cthulhu fans know that when the stars are right and the Big Squid arises from his nap, it's curtains for humanity and the planet Earth. Or is it? An anthology of 17 stories by new authors that explore what things might be like for the survivors of the wrath of Cthulhu and his minions. All are enjoyable reads, and a few are both surprisingly original and satisfyingly creepy.

I've been grabbing a lot of these throw away entertainment type books (i.e. mystery, horror, lightweight scifi, etc.) on Kindle following notifications from BookBub (https://www.bookbub.com/home/). At $0.99-$1.99 each you can't go wrong. And if you do go wrong (Lovecraft inspired fiction being what it is because not every author "gets" why Lovecraft works) you're not kicking yourself for dropping $16 on paper and only having one or two good stories to show for it. If anybody is an avid reader who can live with ebooks, BookBub is definitely something you want to visit and sign up for their daily notifications.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on May 22, 2016, 06:05 PM
Simply Einstein: Relativity Demystified by Richard Wolfson
http://www.amazon.com/Simply-Einstein-Demystified-Richard-Wolfson/dp/0393325075

The Perfect Theory: A Century of Geniuses and the Battle over General Relativity by Prof. Pedro G. Ferreira
http://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Theory-Century-Geniuses-Relativity/dp/0547554893

just continuing my physics education..
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on May 24, 2016, 04:50 PM
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Includes Mrs. Miller's strategy for reading War and Peace, "the only book you'll ever need:"
Spoiler
Five-point plan for anyone thinking of taking this book on:

1. Read fifty pages a day. N.B. the Millers both commute by rail, so have a fair amount of dead time to fill][/i]
2. Utilise the list of principal characters at the front.
3. Pay attention! Soon you'll discover that Tolstoy is doing the heavy lifting for you.
4. Don't fret if you are not enjoying the Peace, there will be a bit of War along shortly.
5. When you get to the end, read it again.

Preferred translations, in order:
(1) Louise and Aylmer Maude
(2) Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky
(3) Rosemary Edmonds
Avoid Constance Garnet - "prissy"

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on May 24, 2016, 05:12 PM
I didn't know this. I wont post here anymore ...

You can post here... that's not what Tom was saying.  Just post things that you're reading and you think worthy after reading to share.  We don't want just a list of books- what we'd like is a list of books that have been experienced and are being recommended based on that. :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on May 25, 2016, 10:44 AM
I didn't know this. I wont post here anymore ...

You can post here... that's not what Tom was saying.  Just post things that you're reading and you think worthy after reading to share.  We don't want just a list of books- what we'd like is a list of books that have been experienced and are being recommended based on that. :)

ah yes, thanks for saying that wraith  :up:

what we'd like is a list of books that have been experienced and are being recommended based on that. :)

I always like to see a comment myself, be it positive or negative -- or just giving us some more info
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on May 25, 2016, 10:47 AM
Includes Mrs. Miller's strategy for reading War and Peace, "the only book you'll ever need:"
Spoiler
Five-point plan for anyone thinking of taking this book on:

1. Read fifty pages a day. N.B. the Millers both commute by rail, so have a fair amount of dead time to fill][/i]
2. Utilise the list of principal characters at the front.
3. Pay attention! Soon you'll discover that Tolstoy is doing the heavy lifting for you.
4. Don't fret if you are not enjoying the Peace, there will be a bit of War along shortly.
5. When you get to the end, read it again.

Preferred translations, in order:
(1) Louise and Aylmer Maude
(2) Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky
(3) Rosemary Edmonds
Avoid Constance Garnet - "prissy"


#4 in spoiler :D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: holt on June 02, 2016, 03:30 AM
Bambi, A Life in the Woods by Austrian author Felix Salten
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 02, 2016, 08:52 AM
Emphyrio (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emphyrio) by Jack Vance.

I read a few of his SciFi novels in the past.  I recently read Ports of Call (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ports_of_Call_(Vance_novel)) and that encouraged me to get back into Vance.  What I found charming in Ports of Call, which is about a space freighter with a 4 man crew, was the characters.  Each of the crew members, and just about every citizen of every city on every planet they visit, is a home spun philosopher.  There is some action.  Not on the intergalactic war scale.  But enough to keep the reader from getting anxious to reach the end of the novel.  But what I found appealing was the dialog between the characters.  A lot of fun.

I have just started Emphyrio and have no feel for it yet.  I still do not know what to expect.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 07, 2016, 01:53 PM
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ] (https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=alastor+jack+vance&tag=googhydr-20&index=stripbooks&hvadid=36271213360&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=538522012711547832&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_4mebiqan6i_b)

More Jack Vance.  I finished Emphyrio.  A fun read.

The Alastor trilogy is about a cluster of 30,000 planets inhabited by humans.  One man is the supreme ruler(starts to sound like I Worship His Shadow here.)  :)  Two things I do like about Vance's adventures in the "Gaean Reach" are 1) the people speak the same language and 2) Vance does not try to get into the nitty gritty details of space ship drive systems and time dilation and all the rest of it.  Man has colonized many planets for thousands of years.  If you want to go from one planet to another you get in a space craft, plot a course and let the computer worry about it.

I am only a few pages in but so far it looks like fun.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Attronarch on June 08, 2016, 06:20 AM
Currently reading:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61IKN0BHMvL._SY392_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Business-Model-Generation-Visionaries-Challengers/dp/0470876417)

Not bad, and I did successfully use it. I've also seen it used by bigger players in the market. Still, I don't really like the format and find it a little bit hipsterish.

Next read:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51hinQ0ec-L._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Just-Listen-Discover-Getting-Absolutely/dp/0814436471)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 14, 2016, 03:22 PM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/sq4co4.png)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/34o7pg6.jpg)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 14, 2016, 04:07 PM
I gave up on Alastor.  The font was just too hard on the eyes.  I switched to the Jack Vance novel (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51MC7PPXAQL._SX299_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Prince-Jack-Vance/dp/1596872403)

I finished it just now.  The Gray Prince is the leader of a movement to recover the land grabbed by human "Land Barons" from indigenous tribes, of which the Gray Prince is a member.  I won't give anymore detail as it is a short novel so why not just read it to find out for yourself?

(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M6a2e933b0cefc68fd1b5a521acd5d345o0&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0)

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on June 16, 2016, 08:48 PM
I'm currently reading For Love Of Mother-Not by Alan Dean Foster, the first of the Flinx novels.
Title: Re: What books are you reading? - The Secret (2010)
Post by: IainB on June 17, 2016, 01:27 AM
Review per image below, with plain text and hyperlinks extracted to the Spoiler button below the article, to enable text search and copy.

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Spoiler
Review of the book "The Secret" (2010).
General conclusion: Bunkum.

I started reading the principles of "The Secret" about a year ago after buying an almost new hardcopy of the book in a charity shop that I frequent (I regularly shop at and collect stuff to donate to charity shops). Cost me about NZ$7.00.

It was interesting, but seemed rather silly, and I lost interest in it. I finally finished it after reading it in a bitty fashion over several months. Searching the Internet now, I see that both the book and the film have been debunked.
This seemed about right, because, as I read the book, my BS alarm went off. Then I did some research on it - whereupon my skepticism was confirmed. It turns out that the book's hypothesis is fictional, but I still find it nevertheless interesting. Certainly a search on the Internet will turn up debunking observations or reviews, such as, for example:
   • A Little Secret about The Secret - http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/a-little-secret-about-the-secret/Content?oid=925131
   • Fake quotes https://web.archive.org/web/20151114170236/http:/www.philosophyforlife.org:80/fake-quotes/

One of the most egregious fibs in The Secret was one that turned my BS alarm on when reading the book, and it also turns up at 3:38m in the film's video trailer clip:
The Secret: View first 20 minutes
From <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8>


So, reading the assorted reviews and comments, some of its quotes are clearly fictional, apparently including all of those ascribed to R.W. Emerson. I had in any event read all about the so-called "Law of Attraction" and various other magic or wish-fulfilment type self-help hypotheses by the time I was 15 or so, and I had taken a rationalistic approach to it all. So it all mostly went into the "Hmmm…interesting" category for me, since I do not necessarily discount anything that is non-scientifically verifiable and that cannot be proven either true or untrue. (Anything's possible, I suppose.)

It's not a thought-provoking book. It's an appeal to magic thinking. I think the most thought-provoking book that I read in my teen years was P.D. Ouspensky's "In Search of the Miraculous" (1949) - which rather aptly described my condition then and as now - and later, one of the biggest fraud books/stories that I ever read about (apart from the Piltdown Man) was Erich von Däniken's "Chariots of the Gods" (1968) - which has also been thoroughly debunked.

Ouspensky's book was a difficult read, being more of a set of collected diary notes and discussion notes about his experiences in his search, so I would presume that it was honest on that basis. He wasn't trying to proselytize or "sell" anything, or make a polemic, anyway.

The Secret, however, was selling a film and a book and it was proselytizing. It and other dodgy books do not (and cannot) lay claim to being absolutely true, of course, so at best they may contain some truth, so it would be prudent to regard them as fictional at best. Amazon class it as "Occult and Paranormal" which nowadays seems to be a generic euphemism for anything that is humbug fiction.
However, fabricating facts in a proselytizing book and/or film is lying, and a deliberate untruth or misdirection is a deceit and presents a logical fallacy, so one can discount the book in total, even though one might prefer to treat it as the parson's egg (i.e., good in parts).

The Secret was in any event a tad too touchy-feely and had too many feel-good mantras for my liking, with its spattering of quotes (true and bogus) from all over the place and many from dubious sources or supposed "authorities". Rhonda Byrne (the author of The Secret) apparently used the above R.W. Emerson quote to support her claim that all the great minds of the past – Emerson, Newton, Plato etc – believed in the Law of Attraction. However, the quote is made up, or mis-attributed. There’s no record of Emerson saying or writing it – nor (apparently) any of the other Emerson quotes in Byrne’s book.

To a greater extent, this kind of fakery is preying on our gullibility or capacity for irrational belief.
There is an interesting related discussion here - Re: Peer Review and the Scientific Process - https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=360rmu6qgig91lmjbd4c0qrdq1&topic=34650.msg399457#msg399457 (some of the comments are mine). The imaginary taught wire is amazing.
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 17, 2016, 03:20 PM
What was the point in including the screenshot of the review? The only part of it that was helped by being an image was the image of the video clip, but even that was too blurry to read who the quote was attributed to.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 18, 2016, 07:30 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51san2-wGwL._SX373_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Faceless-Man-Durdane-1/dp/0934438854/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=)

Yet another by Jack Vance.

The Faceless Man is the supreme ruler.  The citizens under his control wear a "torc" which is an explosive necklace The Faceless Man and certain of his subordinates may trigger remotely to "take the head" of malcontents or lawbreakers.  I seem to remember some SciFi movie or series that used the idea.  But I cannot recall the name.

The Faceless Man was originally titled The Anome and is the first of the Durdane Series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durdane_series)

I am about 100 pages in.  So far it is great fun.   :Thmbsup:

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 18, 2016, 08:09 AM
Running man, Wedlock?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on June 18, 2016, 08:51 AM
Made a note of that one, MilesAhead  :up:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 18, 2016, 09:53 AM
Made a note of that one, MilesAhead  :up:

(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M0eca5da6234ecc2a7bd8746c607e9f96o0&w=129&h=128&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0)   Evidently the stories of Jack Vance captured Paul Allen's imagination.  On the Jack Vance web site it is noted that Allen set up a fund for university libraries to apply for free VIE sets.  http://jackvance.com/home/

Now I just have to google what a VIE set is.  :)


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 18, 2016, 10:23 AM
Running man, Wedlock?


I remember seeing Wedlock.  It made me think of The Defiant Ones.  But I think the explosive necklace gimmick has been used in a few SciFi flicks.  I need to take NZT or something.  My memory is cloudy lately.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on June 18, 2016, 02:52 PM
My comments are in the image below, with plain text and hyperlinks extracted to the Spoiler button below the article, to enable text search and copy.

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Spoiler
@Deozaan: I see your acutely critical eye is still sharp!
                      What was the point in including the screenshot of the review? The only part of it that was helped by being an image was the image of the video clip, but even that was too blurry to read who the quote was attributed to.
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      Ah! A good question!
      In answer, though you might not realise it, posting the screenshot of the whole review saved me heaps of time. It really did. In fact, if it hadn't, I probably would not have posted the review at all. You see, I had effectively already written the review up in my OneNote notes. I am a habitual note-maker - it helps me to learn - and I make notes on all sorts of stuff - including, for example:
              • books that I read,
              • videos that I watch and
              • software that I trial - e.g., in the "Also-ran" PIM reviews I have done on the DC Forum.
      
      Explanation:
      After I had written the review notes up, I happened to share them with my sister in Canada (e.g., just copy/paste them into an email in Gmail). She had written to me about the film and apparently hadn't appreciated that "The Secret" had been debunked. Later, after reading the latest posts in this discussion thread (Re: What books are you reading?), and having already made the effort to put my energy into creating the notes, I thought that I should probably do my bit and post them in this discussion thread as well, because, well, "Why not?" - I mean, it might help people who hadn't read the book yet to get some idea of what to expect if they did read it. (At any rate, if I stumble across reviews of films or books that I am spending or am about to spend my precious cognitive surplus on, I tend to find them useful, just to get another perspective.)
      
      So, after deciding to post the already-written review notes in this discussion thread, I was able to make the post in a trice. I thus avoided having to use the constipated and tedious BB code to make the post, simply by following these process steps:
      (Note: For illustration, I have laid out the steps sequentially, below, but as it is a repetitive task I now actually use some Autohotkey macros and hotkey combos and skip about a bit more, to save time.)
           Process Steps
      Est. Time
      Ø STEP 1: Copy entire block of RTF (Rich Text Format) notes - including embedded images - to the Clipboard using Ctrl+C. Note that this also captures the plain text into CHS (Clipboard Help & Spell). Optional: Give this clip a descriptive name and tick it as Favorite if I intend to keep it long-term in CHS.
      ~1 sec.
      
      
      
      (~5 sec.)
      Ø STEP 2: Bring up irfanview and Paste (Ctrl+P) the RTF contents of the Clipboard into an image file in irfanview - thus creating an exact image of the notes.
      ~3 sec.
      Ø STEP 3: Copy the resultant image back to the Clipboard (i.e., now as an image), and then press Esc. to close irfanview without saving the file (there is no need to save it as this step automatically captures the image to CHS as a .PNG file). Optional: Give this clip a descriptive name and tick it as Favorite if I intend to keep it long-term in CHS.
      ~1 sec.
      
      
      
      (~5 sec.)
      Ø STEP 4: Open up a "Reply" frame in the discussion thread and type in a few introductory words into the text entry box and press "Preview".
      ~10 sec
      Ø STEP 5: Click the text entry box where you want to insert the image and press the "Insert Image" button. This puts [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] into the text entry box. Change [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] to [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
      ~4 sec.
      Ø STEP 6: Open CHS Grid display (Ctrl+Alt+A) and locate and Copy (Ctrl+C) the path+filename of the captured image .PNG file in CHS' storage folder (i.e., the image from Step 3). This path+filename is stored in the Clip Text tab of each image clip in CHS. See actual example in Image of Step 6 image clip data (below these notes).
      ~4 sec.
      Ø STEP 7: Scroll down to "Attach:" and Paste (Ctrl+V) the path+filename into the "Choose File" field-box.
      ~4 sec.
      Ø STEP 8: Click the text entry box somewhere below the [ You are not allowed to view attachments ], where I want to insert the Spoiler. Type some random characters (I usually type "GGGG"), then select those characters and press the Spoiler button, which changes it to
Spoiler
GGGG

in the text entry box.
      ~3 sec.
      Ø STEP 9: Open CHS Grid display (Ctrl+Alt+A) and locate and Copy (Double-click) the plain text - previously captured in CHS in STEP 1 - to the Clipboard. See actual example in Image of Step 1 plain text clip (below these notes).
      ~3 sec.
      Ø STEP 10: Return to the text entry box where the
Spoiler
GGGG

is, select the "GGGG" and Paste (Ctrl+V) the plain text from the Clipboard to replace the "GGGG".
      ~3 sec.
      Ø STEP 11: Briefly review/correct the contents of the text entry box, then press "Preview" button and check the result. If AOK, then press the Post button.
      Note: This assumes that the text in the text entry box is auto-spellchecked as I go, and that the embedded text in the image was given a grammar check and spell-check in OneNote prior to STEP 1.
      ~5 sec.
      Total:
      ~41 sec. +(~10 sec.)
      
      The image of the video clip:
      That was included as it shows evidence of the 3:38m appearance of the untrue quote in the 20min trailer clip. (I was trained to provide substantiation/references of any key/critical statements that I might make, you see, as a matter of courtesy and good practice. I do it  automatically now.)
      I apologise for the blurriness of that image, but that was attributable solely to the poor quality resolution of the video clip. I couldn't get any clearer frame, even after sharpening the image. Still, being evidential, it was good practice to include it rather than not to include it.
      
      Image of Step 6 image clip data: getting path+filename

      
      Image of Step 1 text clip: getting the plain text to copy to the Spoiler

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 18, 2016, 03:39 PM
[See attachment in previous post]

tl;dr

There are members of this forum and other fora who have vision problems. Posting a screenshot of text is really unhelpful. Regular text is nice because it is easy to resize, or recolor (for better contrast, etc.), depending on the needs and wants of the person attempting to read it.

I can't be bothered to do the extra work you are requiring of me to read what you said.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on June 18, 2016, 05:07 PM
^ click the spoiler at the bottom of his post to see text. Doesnt make it any shorter, but zoomable.
I guess the advantage of the image is avoiding all the BB code, which I can understand.
When reading though, I'd tend to choose the plain text over the image FWIW
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on June 19, 2016, 12:59 AM
There are members of this forum and other fora who have vision problems. Posting a screenshot of text is really unhelpful. Regular text is nice because it is easy to resize, or recolor (for better contrast, etc.), depending on the needs and wants of the person attempting to read it.
I can't be bothered to do the extra work you are requiring of me to read what you said.
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My apologies, in your initial comment I had thought you were:

I thought I had addressed those two points (a) and (b) pretty well, but now you would seem to have deliberately ignored the greater majority of what I wrote ("tl;dr") and nevertheless seem to be saying additionally that:

As regards point 1:

As regards point 2:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 19, 2016, 02:41 AM
Thanks for the response Iain. You were courteous. I was curt. I apologize.

In regards to (a) and (b), that does seem to be an accurate summary of the events. Just for clarity, I read your review of The Secret in its entirety. But yes, I did deliberately ignore almost everything you wrote in response to my initial question--not actually because it was too long (as implied by the tl;dr), but rather because I was annoyed by another screenshot response with the "proper text" hidden behind a spoiler. I fully admit that that mindset (being annoyed with the image and being too annoyed/lazy to open the spoiler to read your response) is a fault of my own. Making me scroll past a large image to find the spoiler box, then having to click the spoiler box to show the text was, to me, just unneeded extra work. In my mind, it wasn't worth the time and effort. Again, I suppose that says a lot more about me than anything else.

Anyway, there is no rule or guideline about having to post via text instead of image(s) of text. Go ahead and continue posting images. I'm not your boss, nor do I have any authority to make rules here.

It just seems to me--and this is just my opinion--to be inefficient and a total waste of time for yourself and anyone else trying to communicate with you. I see it as a waste of your time because not only do you have to take the time to take a screenshot and upload/attach it, but then you also have to copy and paste the text anyway and hide it behind a spoiler. Why not just copy/paste the text to begin with and be done with it?

I see it as a waste of everyone else's time because, depending on the circumstances, they have a fairly large image they have to work around (which, as previously mentioned, can cause issues for the visually impaired, but also for people browsing on non-standard devices, such as mobile devices with a small screen, or text-only browsers, etc.). They also have to do more work (opening the spoiler box) to get your message to appear as text if they want just the text version of it. The nice thing about HTML is that the text can easily be modified to display at different sizes, in different color schemes, in different fonts, at different widths, etc., all dynamically and according to the needs/wants of the person reading the text. Images don't work that way. They have preset fonts, colors, formatting, and sizes. Though you may be able to zoom in on an image if you need it larger to see, this can lead to blurring. And you may not be able to zoom out if the image is too large (e.g., viewing the site on a smartphone) requiring the hassle of having to scroll horizontally and vertically multiple times to be able to read each line in its entirety. In my opinion, it's just inconsiderate to include large bodies of text in image format on a (text-based) forum, and is only "acceptable" or "tolerable" or "enjoyable" for bite sized consumption, such as memes. There may be a time and a place for using an image instead of dynamic text (such as when dealing with printers), but online discussion boards are not the time and place. Again, that's just my opinion.

And finally, do you even know for sure if text hidden in spoilers is available to be found by the forum's search function? It used to be that "spoilered" text wasn't even included in quoted text when making a reply to someone else, so it wouldn't surprise me if the SMF software's search function completely ignored spoiler text altogether.

To reiterate: This is all just my opinion. You do what works for you. I'm not trying to start an argument/debate on the topic, nor am I trying to insist that you change your behavior to what I think is best. I apologize for my earlier rudeness. I appreciate your measured and thought out response.

And to everyone else reading this: Sorry for derailing this thread and wasting your time.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 29, 2016, 09:11 AM
The citizens under his control wear a "torc" which is an explosive necklace [...] I seem to remember some SciFi movie or series that used the idea.  But I cannot recall the name.
Probably the Saga of the Exiles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_of_Pliocene_Exile) by Julian May (http://manycolored.wikia.com/wiki/Julian_May).

There's also a "faceless man" in Ben Aaronovich (http://temporarilysignificant.blogspot.co.uk/)'s "Peter Grant" series, but he's attempting to become an evil overlord.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 29, 2016, 09:18 AM
The citizens under his control wear a "torc" which is an explosive necklace [...] I seem to remember some SciFi movie or series that used the idea.  But I cannot recall the name.
Probably the Saga of the Exiles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_of_Pliocene_Exile) by Julian May (http://manycolored.wikia.com/wiki/Julian_May).

There's also a "faceless man" in Ben Aaronovich (http://temporarilysignificant.blogspot.co.uk/)'s "Peter Grant" series, but he's attempting to become an evil overlord.

I can recommend this trilogy.  For one thing The Faceless Man aspect does not occupy the entire story.  I won't go into detail so as not to spoil things.  Suffice it to say the plot is not one dimensional.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 29, 2016, 09:32 AM
I am approaching the climax of yet another Jack Vance SciFi novel:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51VBA22SRDL._SX303_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Maske-Thaery-Jack-Vance/dp/0743475240)

This one is a lot of fun.  The protagonist is from an elite family.  But the dominant elites in the culture look down on those from his country or province or whatever it is, no matter how elite the individual.  The same person paradoxically alternately insists on the privileges due his caste and complains about the lack of egalitarianism in the society.

At the same time he has an obstinate personality that is somehow ingratiating.  A fun read to pass the time.  I wish I was set up to be able to look up words in the dictionary as I come upon them in the Vance books.  I thought William F. Buckley had vocabulary.  Perhaps Buckley has greater command of terms that express philosophical abstractions.  But Vance has mastery when it comes to describing particular things that may be common place or unique to a region or planet.

I already have my next Vance novel on hold request.  I guess I like to reserve Jack Vance in adVance.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 29, 2016, 10:20 AM
Two books by the least-prolific and least-known of the Scandi-noir pack.  I read The Butterfly Effect years ago, not long after it first appeared in English.  I promptly forgot author and title - I often do - but the book itself stuck in my mind.  I wanted to read it again, and eventually tracked it down through Wikipedia's Scandinavian noir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_noir) page.

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For the harder of seeing, here's the text OCR'd from the back of the book.

It is a cold, dark, windy night in Oslo, and Igi Heitmann pores over
the debris in her dead fathers office, trying to piece together the
last days of his life as a failed private eye. She discovers a curious
butterfly medallion in his desk - which in turn leads to the discovery
of a young woman, Siv Underland, in a snow-drift, two bullets in her
head and a gun in her hand. Igi learns that her father and the young
woman died within hours of each other. Who killed Siv Underland, and
did the same person kill Andreas Heitmann? Igi is an under-employed
research psychologist, with more than enough problems of her own: her
husband is a transvestite who often wakes up next to very attractive
men instead of next to her. But she soon finds herself in the role of
detective, on a trail that leads not only to the final days of her
father and Siv Underland, but to the city's underworld of corruption,
sadism and child abuse. Igi is caught amongst the shards of a dozen
shattered lives. She must tread carefully if she is to reconstruct the
violent and tragic truth of those lives, and not be killed herself in
the process.

That lead me to look for Rygg's other work, of which there appears to be only one:

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Igi Heitmann is being stalked In the suburb of Oslo where she lives
with her cross-dressing husband and their daughter, someone is spray-
painting the walls of the houses. HEITMANN = CHILD KILLER, the
graffiti says. Who would think this, and how do they know where she
lives? On a bitter winter's evening, Igi attends the opening of the
exhibition of an avant-garde artist whose use of violent sexual
imagery has caused great controversy. Moving between the world of
pornographic art and the happy life she shares with her husband and
daughter, Igi must follow a dangerous and shocking path to the truth.

Rygg excels in a calm, detached portrayal of bizarre behaviour and horrific evil.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on June 30, 2016, 09:44 PM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Attronarch on July 13, 2016, 11:37 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51fIsKdyuDL._SX491_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Scaling-Lean-Mastering-Metrics-Startup/dp/1101980524)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: phitsc on July 15, 2016, 08:21 AM
Looks interesting. Which one of these is the first saga?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on July 15, 2016, 05:09 PM
Looks interesting. Which one of these is the first saga?
Who are you addressing?

If it's me for the two books by Pernille Rygg (https://www.fantasticfiction.com/r/pernille-rygg/), then original publication dates (don't know whether these are original Norwegian, or more likely English translation) are:

The Butterfly Effect (1997)
The Golden Section (2003)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Josh on July 16, 2016, 03:04 PM
I recently got into audiobooks and I am now hooked. I listen to them on the way to work, while on the treadmill, while ruck marching, whenever I can. So far, I have completed 5 books and am on a short story right now.

My first book was one recommended by a co-worker and it is related to the IT/DevOPS culture in any organization. If you've ever worked in an IT or DEV business, check out The Phoenix Project. Almost every character in the story is one I can point out at work. Bottom line, make sure you protect Brent.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Eie0TeStL._SX333_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Business/dp/0988262592)

The next book was Dark Territory which is a deep history on the start of cyber warfare, ending with the Snowden revelations. This is a great introduction into cyber war and gives some insight into the underground threat market.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2BOmr%2BdbOL._SX329_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Territory-Secret-History-Cyber/dp/1476763259)

The next book was "Countdown to Zero Day". This was a very in-depth history of the Stuxnet worm and I recommend it to anyone who has any interest in cyber war being used for physical destruction.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61KzQT5TWGL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Countdown-Zero-Day-Stuxnet-Digital/dp/077043617X)

The next book on my list was an in-depth history of ID Software (Creators of Doom) and the troubles that plagued them (and continue to do so to this day after being purchased by Bethesda and previously with the split-up of the two Johns). Masters of Doom told that tale and showed a couple of developers whose A-Type personalities got the best of both of them (I imagine Jesse being similar to Carmack).

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51jZGrnagjL._SX319_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Masters-Doom-Created-Transformed-Culture/dp/0812972155)

The last book I listened to was "The Martian" by Andy Weir. I listened to this one after watching the movie at least 30 times (it is now my favorite scientific/space movie) and still find new things to like about it each time I watch it. The book was far better than the movie and I recommend it to anyone who watched the film.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41DNuJfahyL._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Martian-Andy-Weir/dp/0553418025)

Finally, I am listening to what I view as the single most novel idea for a short story. This is an interesting take on the concept of hell and tells one man's journey through this temporary plane of existence. "A short stay in hell", even 30 minutes into it, is well worth it just for the opening chapters.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Ez8EwB9uL._SX328_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Short-Stay-Hell-Steven-Peck/dp/098374842X)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on July 16, 2016, 04:22 PM
This is an interesting take on the concept of hell and tells one man's journey through this temporary plane of existence.
If you like weird stuff, you might like Flann O'Brien (https://www.fantasticfiction.com/o/flann-obrien/)'s The Third Policeman.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kunkel321 on July 16, 2016, 05:47 PM
Just got done reading the uncut version of The Stand (Stephen King).  That's a whole lotta' book--especially for a slow reader like me.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: phitsc on July 18, 2016, 07:36 AM
Looks interesting. Which one of these is the first saga?
Who are you addressing?

If it's me for the two books by Pernille Rygg (https://www.fantasticfiction.com/r/pernille-rygg/), then original publication dates (don't know whether these are original Norwegian, or more likely English translation) are:

The Butterfly Effect (1997)
The Golden Section (2003)

It was related to a book series for which I can't see the post anymore. Either I was addressing a post which has been removed, or I had a digital hallucination.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on July 18, 2016, 08:52 AM
Looks interesting. Which one of these is the first saga?
Who are you addressing?

If it's me for the two books by Pernille Rygg (https://www.fantasticfiction.com/r/pernille-rygg/), then original publication dates (don't know whether these are original Norwegian, or more likely English translation) are:

The Butterfly Effect (1997)
The Golden Section (2003)

It was related to a book series for which I can't see the post anymore. Either I was addressing a post which has been removed, or I had a digital hallucination.

I prefer my hallucinations analog.  At least then there is some correspondence to reality.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on July 22, 2016, 07:37 PM
Effective Modern C++: 42 Specific Ways to Improve Your Use of C++11 and C++14, by Scott Meyers
https://www.amazon.com/Effective-Modern-Specific-Ways-Improve/dp/1491903996

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As a long time C++ coder, I'm still skeptical of the benefits to releasing new versions of C++, but it's a good book, and one of those books where you learn interesting things about language design.  Note: Not suitable for learning C++ only for those with lots of C++ coding experience.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Josh on July 22, 2016, 08:42 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ynn5f8RQL._SX308_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Mars-Rover-Curiosity-Curiositys-Engineer/dp/1588344738/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1469237866&sr=8-3&keywords=mars+rover)

So, fresh off of my "The Martian" kick, I decided to learn more about the Mars Rover, Curiosity. As such, the next book in my line-up is "Mars Rover Curiosity: An Inside Account from Curiosity's Chief Engineer". This book details the challenges facing the team who built the most complex spacecraft ever designed. I am about half way through and the project was just extended from a 2009 launch date to 2011.

It really amazes me just how many topics covered in "The Martian" by Andy Weir are actually mentioned by the engineers who built Curiosity. Great read so far!
 
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on July 23, 2016, 05:11 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on July 23, 2016, 07:27 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41IAOrYUFiL._SX324_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Fields-Alan-Glynn/dp/1582342733)

I just started the novel that was the basis of the movie Limitless.

The Dark Fields by Alan Glynn

I am still only about six chapters in.  The writing style is fine. I just wish the font was a bit darker.

Edit: I have about 20 pages left to read.  If you liked the move Limitless definitely read this book.  Several things that drove me crazy in the movie were handled much more logically and made much more sense in the novel.


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: exjoburger on July 24, 2016, 04:42 PM
Two books which I've been reading for a while now (although I have finished a handful in-between):

 Columbine by Dave Cullen - heavy, in depth look without sensationalism.
 and
 Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson - IMO the Jobs biography by which others are measured.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Josh on July 24, 2016, 07:44 PM
Has anyone read any Christopher Moore or Tom Holt novels? Looking for a good place to start. I am thinking "A Dirty Job" by Christopher Moore.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on July 25, 2016, 02:48 PM
As a long time C++ coder, I'm still skeptical of the benefits to releasing new versions of C++, but it's a good book, and one of those books where you learn interesting things about language design.  Note: Not suitable for learning C++ only for those with lots of C++ coding experience.
There's been a lot of important development in C++, especially C++11 - threading and memory model, auto, lambdas.

But there were several times while reading EMC++ where I twitched or frowned. "With all these years of expertise, how could they make this part of the library so convoluted?" and such. Can't remember the specifics, but iirc I frowned at stuff related to time, async/tasks, as well as some of the details about move semantics.

I kinda wish for a "Modern C++" language - something that does away with all the undefined behaviour, bad historic decisions (e.g. most of the standard library), but still retains the good things (super performance, multiparadigm programming, deterministic constructors/destructors)...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on July 25, 2016, 02:59 PM
I kinda wish for

Exactly.  The coders that have been working to create the new versions of C++ are doing some extremely cool work in an area of language design that is mostly ignored in these days of interpreted code -- given the coder the ability to have true control over creating high performance compiled code.  But they are operating under the excruciating burden of having to be backwards compatible with a lot of gunk, and the need to work around the syntax/keywords of a very old language.  The result is often ugly and unpleasant.

What we need is a new language, inspired by C++ and taking the lessons learned from these new C++ versions, but free from the historical burdens.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on July 25, 2016, 03:47 PM
What we need is a new language, inspired by C++ and taking the lessons learned from these new C++ versions, but free from the historical burdens.


Hmmm, awkward to type but it sounds like ++C--.  New C++ with the obsolete stuff amputated.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on July 25, 2016, 03:49 PM
Well, the D programming language (https://dlang.org/) was done in this spirit.  There is a good book or two on it.  I never thought it would survive but it has.  Still didn't feel "perfect" to me.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on July 25, 2016, 04:47 PM
Well, the D programming language (https://dlang.org/) was done in this spirit.  There is a good book or two on it.  I never thought it would survive but it has.  Still didn't feel "perfect" to me.

That reminds me of the good old days when Al Stevens of Dr. Dobb's Journal came out with D-flat as a retort to C#.  :)  It's hard to believe there are no programming magazines anymore.  Just "blogs" that disappear or lie fallow, and programming forums.  At least Code Project seems to be hanging in there.

There was something nice about holding up a hard copy magazine to show someone though.  It made it seem real.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on July 25, 2016, 05:09 PM
What we need is a new language, inspired by C++ and taking the lessons learned from these new C++ versions, but free from the historical burdens.

Isn't this what Go was designed for?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on July 25, 2016, 05:50 PM
Well, the D programming language was done in this spirit.  There is a good book or two on it.  I never thought it would survive but it has.  Still didn't feel "perfect" to me.
Last time I tried D was several years ago. The languaged felt kinda nice, but iirc it fell into the "meh, garbage collection and no deterministic destructors" language bin, and felt like it wouldn't be suitable for the kind of systems-level programming you can use C++ for. Also, tooling was bad. My impression was "decent enough language, but I might as well use C#".

Isn't this what Go was designed for?
Go was designed by people who haven't heard about languages newer than C.

I'm currently working my way through "The Go Programming Language" (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Programming-Language-Addison-Wesley-Professional-Computing/dp/0134190440), and there's a lot of things that seem really ill-conceived for a language designed in modern times. I tries to be systems-level, but has garbage collection (loss of determinism), but still has pointer/non-pointer types - which affects class (or, well, not classes, because Go) design. Also, while having GC, it doesn't have exceptions, so you're back to C-style "let's check for and propagate errors alle the time!". It doesn't have generics, leading to really awful code involving interface{} (aka Java/C# Object), and eschews modern language constructs because "We hire kiddos straight out of college and they don't grok advanced features" - come on, even Java has moved beyond manually iterating data types in favor of modern collections framework.

Go seems like a decent enough language if you need to write small trivial console applications, utilities that Unix-style orchestrate other utilities, etc... but I don't really like it. It also has bad tooling, and a totally insane excuse for library management. As I understand it, you kinda either pull in libraries from a GitHub master branch, or you copy out the source code for a specific version in the source tree of each and every of your projects that use that library.

---

I like the tidbits I've had time to read about Rust (https://www.rust-lang.org), but haven't had time to look properly at it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on July 27, 2016, 01:56 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51sRI77V6XL._SX321_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Winterland-Novel-Alan-Glynn/dp/0312539223)

I just picked it up at the library.  This is the same author who wrote The Dark Fields, which was the impetus for the Limitless movie.  After finishing that novel I saw why the word "dark" was in the title.

If this one holds my attention in similar fashion then I'm likely to read all the fiction available from Glynn.  I'll find out later this afternoon.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 04, 2016, 05:25 PM
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'[Vyleta is] the heir to the throne left empty since
the death of Graham Greene. Yes, he's that damn good'
SAN FRANCISCO BOOK REVIEW

Vienna, 1939. Professor Speckstein's dog has been brutally killed and
he wants to know why. But these are uncharitable times and one must
be careful where one probes... When an unexpected house call leads
Doctor Beer to Speckstein's apartment, he finds himself in the bedroom
of Zuzka, the professor's niece. Wide-eyed, flirtatious and not detectably
ill, Zuzka leads the young doctor to her window and reveals a disturbing
view of the neighbours across the courtyard. Does one of them have
blood on their hands? Beer reluctantly becomes embroiled in an
enquiry that forces him to face the dark realities of Nazi rule.

'Nimble, nuanced, fierce, scrupulous' TLS

'A compelling rumination on watching and watchfulness,
served up with Nabokovian glee' GUARDIAN

'Truly a work of art ... one of the best — and most quietly
disturbing — books of the year' NATIONAL POST

'A sharp and confident novel that captures the social
paranoia and mistrust fomented by Nazism ... Vyleta's
subtly engaging thriller is tense with violent acts'
INDEPENDENT
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on August 05, 2016, 05:54 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on August 06, 2016, 07:40 AM
i think that was made into a movie ive seen.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 40hz on August 06, 2016, 01:21 PM
Fifth-Business by Robertson Davies. Book one of three linked novels forming what's since come to be referred to as: "The Deptford Trilogy." The other two related books are The Manticore and The World of Wonders.

A very different take on the "coming of age" novel. If you enjoyed books like Slaughterhouse-Five, this book should appeal. Davies is a fine wordsmith. There's tons of quotable passages throughout. By example:

I have already said that while our village contained much of what humanity has to show, it did not contain everything, and one of the things it conspicuously lacked was an aesthetic sense; we were all too much descendants of hard-bitten pioneers to wish for or encourage any such thing, and we gave hard names to qualities that, in a more sophisticated society, might have had value.

From the publisher's blurb (which sums it up rather well):

Ramsay is a man twice born, a man who has returned from the hell of the battle-grave at Passchendaele in World War I decorated with the Victoria Cross and destined to be caught in a no man's land where memory, history, and myth collide. As Ramsay tells his story, it begins to seem that from boyhood, he has exerted a perhaps mystical, perhaps pernicious, influence on those around him. His apparently innocent involvement in such innocuous events as the throwing of a snowball or the teaching of card tricks to a small boy in the end prove neither innocent nor innocuous.  Fifth Business stands alone as a remarkable story told by a rational man who discovers that the marvelous is only another aspect of the real.

Recommended! :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kunkel321 on August 06, 2016, 03:31 PM
(https://books.google.com/books/content?id=34wClsOmBIoC&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&edge=curl&imgtk=AFLRE736JRPZa-YCiwIAUcaezuyg0pTnQECChCDOOuzDNwpZRCeufSVX2Rrd61G33IUUkdqNvZCwnehNwjrqBMewA3qmqhjmpSG3ZvOnFUxZeD-MGRmEPE1M8ykBTi1bsGshj3YT-Mzx)

https://books.google.com/books?id=34wClsOmBIoC&hl=en
Half way though.... It's pretty good!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 10, 2016, 12:23 PM
i think that was made into a movie ive seen.

A 1973 vintage Walter Matthau flick
The Laughing Policeman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070292/)

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 10, 2016, 12:38 PM
Continuing with Alan Glynn I have finished Bloodland

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51AL%2BRGfc4L._SX337_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Bloodland-Novel-Alan-Glynn/dp/0312621280)

and I am about 3/4 through Graveland

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51rCfhrURdL._SY346_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Graveland-Novel-Alan-Glynn-ebook/dp/B008BU71EE/ref=la_B001K8I62U_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1470850456&sr=1-5)

I am looking forward to the new release Paradime

(http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1461703172l/26114707.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/Paradime-Novel-Alan-Glynn/dp/1250061822)

Not in the public library yet.



Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 11, 2016, 04:01 PM
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A full bibliography may be found on Philip Kerr's fantasticfiction page (https://www.fantasticfiction.com/k/philip-kerr/).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Attronarch on August 12, 2016, 05:29 AM
Wow, that's even good depiction of Zagreb main square, with the statue of governor Josip Jelačić in the background. I'll have to pick it up just to see what is it about.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on August 12, 2016, 06:24 AM
[The Quiet Twin - Dan Vyleta]

did you find that one as good as the reviews suggested?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on August 12, 2016, 09:16 AM
I read a lot, so I generally don't post the books to this thread, but two series are very good that I've just read.  I think the genre is called gunpowder fantasy, but it encompasses some historical constructs that I really like- akin to Sharpe's rifles (https://www.goodreads.com/series/168932-richard-sharpe-publication-order).

(https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1347707256l/328907.jpg)

The first is the Powder Mage Series (https://www.goodreads.com/series/99602-powder-mage), by Brian McClellan.  It starts with A Promise of Blood (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15790883-promise-of-blood)

(https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1350337505l/15790883.jpg)

The Age of Kings is dead . . . and I have killed it.

It's a bloody business overthrowing a king...
Field Marshal Tamas' coup against his king sent corrupt aristocrats to the guillotine and brought bread to the starving. But it also provoked war with the Nine Nations, internal attacks by royalist fanatics, and the greedy to scramble for money and power by Tamas's supposed allies: the Church, workers unions, and mercenary forces.

It's brilliantly paced, with visceral battle scenes that other than the presence of the Powder Mages and other Magic are very well done, and might as well be right out of a Sharpe novel, and well written characters that are intelligently developed.

The second series is, if possible, more fantastical while being a lot closer in scope to the British colonialism and imperialism- especially towards the end of the same.  I speak of the Iron Elves (https://www.goodreads.com/series/57223-iron-elves) series by Chris Evans.  Everything is familiar, while at the same time, nothing is, and the characterizations are intense and well written.

It starts with A Darkness Forged in Fire (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2457253.A_Darkness_Forged_in_Fire), that almost lost me in the beginning.  But I'm glad that I stuck it out through that bit of exposition, as the rest of the read firmly grabbed me.

(https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1306111764l/2457253.jpg)

We do not fear the flame, though it burns us,
We do not fear the fire, though it consumes us,
And we do not fear its light,
Though it reveals the darkness of our souls,
For therein lies our power.

-- Blood Oath of the Iron Elves

First in a stunning debut series, A Darkness Forged in Fire introduces an unforgiving world of musket and cannon...bow and arrow...magic, diplomacy, and oaths -- each wielding terrible power in an Empire teetering on the brink of war.

I highly recommend both series if you're into that era of history at all.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 14, 2016, 03:24 PM
Wow, that's even good depiction of Zagreb main square, with the statue of governor Josip Jelačić in the background. I'll have to pick it up just to see what is it about.
There isn't much about Zagreb as such, but a fair section about the age-old and horrible enmity between Serb and Croat.  Bernie is a non-Nazi German detective; the novels span the early 1930s through to the Cold War, with all that implies.  As a character, he is very much in the 'noir' tradition of e.g. Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe.

More on Philip Kerr's official website (http://www.philipkerr.org/).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 14, 2016, 03:34 PM
[The Quiet Twin - Dan Vyleta]
did you find that one as good as the reviews suggested?
I haven't seen any reviews of it - I picked it up when I saw it in the library, because I'd read his first novel, Pavel and I (for which I had seen positive reviews), and thought well of it.

In The Quiet Twin Vyleta wanted to consider how the Nazi regime affected the lives of ordinary Viennese (nearly all of them flawed characters), and set most of the story within a single apartment block.  The book kept me reading with some urgency to find out what happened next, but given the era and situation, don't expect any happy endings.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 14, 2016, 03:58 PM
It starts with A Darkness Forged in Fire (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2457253.A_Darkness_Forged_in_Fire), that almost lost me in the beginning.  But I'm glad that I stuck it out through that bit of exposition, as the rest of the read firmly grabbed me.
A dangerous strategy for an author.  I started Gardens of the Moon, first of Steven Erikson (https://www.fantasticfiction.com/e/steven-erikson/)'s Malazan Empire (http://www.malazanempire.com/site/index.php) series, which opens on a protracted scene where two people, neither introduced, pick their way through a scene of World War 1 level carnage - with no explanation whatsoever.  I put the book down.  I picked it up again a few weeks later and finished it, but it was a close-run thing whether I'd bother.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on August 14, 2016, 04:27 PM
It starts with A Darkness Forged in Fire (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2457253.A_Darkness_Forged_in_Fire), that almost lost me in the beginning.  But I'm glad that I stuck it out through that bit of exposition, as the rest of the read firmly grabbed me.
A dangerous strategy for an author.  I started Gardens of the Moon, first of Steven Erikson (https://www.fantasticfiction.com/e/steven-erikson/)'s Malazan Empire (http://www.malazanempire.com/site/index.php) series, which opens on a protracted scene where two people, neither introduced, pick their way through a scene of World War 1 level carnage - with no explanation whatsoever.  I put the book down.  I picked it up again a few weeks later and finished it, but it was a close-run thing whether I'd bother.

Totally agreed.  But I think he fell victim to two things.

1) New author
2) the Genre, as I said, was Gunpowder Fantasy.  That first part was pure fantasy.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 15, 2016, 03:38 PM
[...] I think he fell victim to two things.
1) New author
2) the Genre, as I said, was Gunpowder Fantasy.  That first part was pure fantasy.
That sounds like he needed a good editor to suggest improvements.  Perhaps publishers and agents don't bother any more.

You said you read a lot.  How do you pick what books to read next, given the vast number available and limited time to read?  Do you frequent favourite review sites, and if so, which?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on August 15, 2016, 03:55 PM
[...] I think he fell victim to two things.
1) New author
2) the Genre, as I said, was Gunpowder Fantasy.  That first part was pure fantasy.
That sounds like he needed a good editor to suggest improvements.  Perhaps publishers and agents don't bother any more.

You said you read a lot.  How do you pick what books to read next, given the vast number available and limited time to read?  Do you frequent favourite review sites, and if so, which?

Nothing that measured.  When I need a new book, my nook suggests books in the genre that I read.  I browse for a bit, buy the one that catches my fancy, and put the other interesting things on my wish list.  When there's nothing on the Nook suggestions that I like, I revisit my wish list.  I visit Goodreads also, but I can't say that it's a part of my regimen anymore, but I also pick up suggestions from Amazon, and just find them on the Nook, or if I like them well enough, just buy it in the kindle app.

To round that up, I also use the bundle sites, i.e.

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/
http://storybundle.com/

and visit the Baen and Tor sites on occasion.

http://www.tor.com/
http://www.baen.com/baenebooks
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 19, 2016, 04:53 PM
Lavie Tidharw's The Bookman, first of a trilogy.

fantasticfiction bibliographical record for Lavie Tidhar (https://www.fantasticfiction.com/t/lavie-tidhar/)

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Steampunk to the max.  The Queen is an alien lizard; her Prime Minister has the ominous name Moriarty; her equerry is Sir Harry Flashman VC.  Two factions of the opposition are lead by Karl Marx and Mrs. Isabella Beeton.  The viewpoint character, Orphan, meets both Holmes brothers, Prince Dakkar (aka Captain Nemo), H.G. Wells, Jules Verne, the Mechanical Turk, Inspector Irene Adler, and an automaton of Lord Byron.

You wouldn't read this for the action sequences, but for the characters and the invented world.  I loved the myriad references to other fictional (and some real, I think) authors and their books, and was delighted when I recognised a few of them.  The spoiler are some that Orphan searches through in Chapter 16, 'At the Bibliotheca Librorum Imaginariorum':
Spoiler
Jo March's A Phantom Hand.  William Ashbless's Accounts of London Scientists.  Hawthorne Abendsen's The Grasshopper Lies Heavy.  The Encyclopedia Donkaniara.  The Book of Three.  Emmanuel Goldstein's The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism.  Captain Eustacio Binky's Coffee Making as a Fine Art.  Ludvig Prinn's De Vermis Mysteriis.  Gulliver Fairborn's A Talent for Sacrifice.  Colonel Sebastian Moran's Heavy Game of the Western Himalayas.  Gottfried Mulder's Secret Mysteries of Asia, with Commentary on the Ghorl Nigral.  Cosmo Cowperthwait's Sexual Dimorphism Among The Echinoderms, Focusing Particularly Upon the Asteroidea and Holothuridea.  George Edward Challenger's Some Observations Upon a Series of Kalmuk Skulls.

[...]

Gossip Gone Wild by Dr Jubal Harshaw. In My Father's House by Princess Irulan. Burlesdon on Ancient Theories and Modern Facts by James Rassendyll, Lord Burlesdon. The Truth of Alchemy by Mr. Karswell. Stud City by Gordon Lachance. Boxing the Compass by Bobbi Anderson. The Relationship of Extradigitalism to Genius, by Zubarin. Megapolisomancy by Thibaut de Castries. De Impossibilitate Prognoscendi by Cezar Kouska. Eustace Clarence Scrubb's Diary. Azathoth and Other Horrors by Edward Pickman Derby.

More things fell from the books. A coin, so blackened that its face could no longer be discerned. A map of an island drawn in a child's hand. A butterfly, the wings black save for two emerald spots. A newspaper cutting from the Daily Journal, that read:

12 June 1730
Seven Kings or Chiefs of the Chirakee Indians. bordering upon the area called Croatoan, are come over in the Fox Man of War, Capt. Arnold, in order to pay their duty to his Majesty, and assure him of their attachment to his person and Government, &c.

Aunt Susan's Compendium of Pleasant Knowledge. Broomstick or the Midnight Practice. R. Blastem's Sea Gunner's Practice, with Description of Captain Shotgun's Murdering Piece. The Libellus Leibowitz. Augustus Whiffle's The Care of the Pig. Dr Stephen Maturin's Thoughts on the Prevention of Diseases most usual among Seamen. Professor Radcliffe Emerson's Development of the Egyptian Coffin from Predynastic Times to the End of the Twenty-sixth Dynasty, With Particular Reference to Its Reflection of Religious, Social, and Artistic Conventions. The Book of Bokonon. Kilgore Trout's Now It Can Be Told. James Bailey's Life of William Ashbless. Hugo Rune's The Book of Ultimate Truths. Harriet Vane's The Sands of Crime. Jean-Baptiste Colbert's Grand System of Universal Monarchy. Toby Shandy's Apologetical Oration. ...

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: derekbd on August 20, 2016, 07:21 AM
I ran out of new books to read. I am waiting on a few releases in the autumn including Thomas Dolby's memoir The Speed of Sound(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51slXIBayjL.jpg)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D8FKXV4/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1#nav-subnav (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D8FKXV4/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1#nav-subnav)

Also, the third in a trilogy by Cixin Liu which is newly translated. https://www.amazon.com/Deaths-End-Remembrance-Earths-Past-ebook/dp/B00WDVKZY0/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1471695337&sr=1-3&keywords=the+three+body+problem#nav-subnav (https://www.amazon.com/Deaths-End-Remembrance-Earths-Past-ebook/dp/B00WDVKZY0/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1471695337&sr=1-3&keywords=the+three+body+problem#nav-subnav)
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I'm reading some old favourites. I always enjoy doing that.

I only met Banks' sci-fi 6 years ago. Buggerin' cancer deprived us of a treasure. <tear>

(I loved The Crow Road on BBC from about 2000, which Banks said was in some ways better than his novel! The device of Rory speaking to Prentiss was a clever invention of the script.)
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on August 20, 2016, 01:36 PM
(I loved The Crow Road on BBC from about 2000, which Banks said was in some ways better than his novel! The device of Rory speaking to Prentiss was a clever invention of the script.)

(will have to watch that again, as I can only remember snippets. I do remember enjoying it, looking forward to next episode.)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: derekbd on August 20, 2016, 04:03 PM
Banks' novel "Whit , or Isis Among the Unsaved" is the funniest of his non-scifi by far; a witty commentary on the modern world (well, of 1980ish). It pokes tremendous fun at religion while respecting those who truly believe and benefit from it their lives.

Read it!

 Some comments on the novel can be found on the Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whit_(novel) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whit_(novel)).

Don't know if the attachment is allowed. I shall review the faq and rules now.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on August 20, 2016, 04:47 PM
Is it available for purchase?  Then the link should be removed.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on August 22, 2016, 04:19 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 22, 2016, 04:08 PM
When I need a new book, my nook suggests books in the genre that I read.
Thanks...  I'm still stuck in the print age, on the whole.  I used to get suggestions for general books from various print sources, e.g. the book reviews pages of a decent newspaper, but as I don't take a paper now, that's gone.  A pity, as I miss recommendations for travel books in particular.  I scan such sources as come my way, of course.

For fantasy and science fiction, I tend to rely most on Asimov’s Science Fiction (http://www.asimovs.com/) magazine's book reviews, and also on the stories themselves.  I picked up on Lavie Tidhar (mentioned above) because he had an outtake from his 'Bookman' world published as a short story in Asimov's.  I just looked at their web site, which features the current edition, August 2016.  They naturally don't make a great deal of their fiction available for free, but there a few extracts, and what looks like the complete text of their reviews, main page > Current issue > On Books.  Historically they use several reviewers who take it in turns.  I'm not so keen on Paul Di Filippo, but it takes all sorts.  Norman Spinrad is always on a mission.

Other F&SF sources have been various author sites and blogs; some authors list blogs they frequent.  Sarah Ash (http://www.sarah-ash.com/) used to, but doesn't now.  Webmasters like giving sites a spiffy makeover, but it doesn't always mean more useful information for the user.  And blogs and other useful sites keep disappearing.  I've occasionally looked at Fantasy Book Critic (http://fantasybookcritic.blogspot.co.uk/), and there I've just spotted a new series by highly entertaining YA writer Philip Reeve (http://www.philip-reeve.com/), author of the "Traction Cities" series and of Here Lies Arthur.  Like others, I'm somewhat Arthured-out, but this is a nice take on the legend, taking a pragmatic approach rather than a mystical one, rather like Rosemary Sutcliff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Sutcliff) did.  His Arthur is a Dark Age protection racketeer; Merlin a con-man on an epic scale; Camelot a jerry-built mud hut; all related by a very down-to-earth Lady of the Lake. 

As for whodunnits/thrillers, they tend to be well covered in regular paper sources; even my casual perusal turns up new names.  On rare occasions I've trawled the Crime Time (http://www.crimetime.co.uk/mag/) web site.  Once I find someone whose work I like, the Internet makes it easy to track new works by that author.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on September 07, 2016, 10:59 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on September 07, 2016, 11:06 AM
@derekbd I am about 2/3 of the way through the first volume of the 3 Body Trilogy.  I am just at the part in the game where the 3 suns align and everything gets pulled apart etc..  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on September 07, 2016, 02:28 PM
I recently attended a lecture about studies and data on marriage and families (and how/why they're important to society). Thinking economics was just about money/finance and stock markets/exchanges, I was puzzled about why an economics professor was giving the lecture. I voiced my confusion to someone sitting nearby and was informed that economics covers a much broader scope than simply money, and had a book recommended to me: Naked Economics by Charles Wheelan (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7937510-naked-economics).

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Finally! A book about economics that won’t put you to sleep. In fact, you won’t be able to put this bestseller down. In our challenging economic climate, this perennial favorite of students and general readers is more than a good read, it’s a necessary investment—with a blessedly sure rate of return. Demystifying buzzwords, laying bare the truths behind oft-quoted numbers, and answering the questions you were always too embarrassed to ask, the breezy Naked Economics gives readers the tools they need to engage with pleasure and confidence in the deeply relevant, not so dismal science.
-http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7937510-naked-economics

The author promises that there will be no charts, graphs, or math formulas in the book. He explains in plain English what economics is, and perhaps more importantly, why it matters.

I had no idea!

I'm finding the book (and topic) fascinating so far. And even though I'm currently only 2 chapters into it, I'd recommend it, especially as an introduction to economics.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on September 14, 2016, 06:07 AM
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Started reading them, but they weren't attractive enough (at least not for me) so I abandoned them.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on September 14, 2016, 09:43 AM
This one was a hard, but enlightening read.

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In this day of hard economics, and even harder decisions, you want to help if you're blessed with more than others.  But, as with everything, there's a good way to help, and a decidedly bad way.  This book outlines how the best of intents can lead to really harmful actions.  And more than that, it gives examples of how to turn that around.

Public service is a way of life for Americans; giving is a part of our national character. But compassionate instincts and generous spirits aren’t enough, says veteran urban activist Robert D. Lupton. In this groundbreaking guide, he reveals the disturbing truth about charity: all too much of it has become toxic, devastating to the very people it’s meant to help.

A good review of the book is found at Christianity Today: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/november/review-toxic-charity.html

I read the review when it first came out, but it was apparently free for only a limited time, and now requires a subscription.  But the excerpt given for free is still a good synopsis.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on September 19, 2016, 05:09 PM
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Older children/YA level SF, but don't let that put you off.  Outrageously entertaining!


“The Great Network is a place of drones and androids, Hive Monks, maintenance spiders and Station Angels. The place of the thousand gates, where sentient trains criss-cross the galaxy in a heartbeat.

It is also a place of great dangers – especially for someone who rides the rails and rides his luck the way Zen Starling does.

Meet Zen Starling:
Rebel, Adventurer, Imposter, Liar, Hero, Enemy, Ally
Destination: Unknown…”
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on September 19, 2016, 05:47 PM
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Started reading them, but they weren't attractive enough (at least not for me) so I abandoned them.
A Voyage to Arcturus by David Lindsay has been mentioned on DC before, originally by joiwind; my reply is here - Re: Science Fiction and Fantasy Reading List (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=26567.msg247457#msg247457)

This book appears on various "Greatest Novels of the 20th Century" lists.  According to an interview with C.S. Lewis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis), each chapter is a tableau that represents a philosophical position, which Lindsay sets up - then immediately tears down.  Philosophy is above my level; I haven't forgotten my mother's comment that everyone she'd ever met who had studied philosophy was totally incomprehensible.  I only read it once, over forty years ago, didn't understand it, but fragments of it have stuck in my mind  to this day.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on September 20, 2016, 04:59 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on September 26, 2016, 04:33 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on September 26, 2016, 04:55 PM
The Other Side of Silence by Philip Kerr, latest in his "Bernie Gunther" series.  This one has Bernie working on the French Riviera in the early Cold War period, getting involved with the writer Somerset Maugham (who really had been a spymaster in the Great War), and discovering the lamentable state of British Secret Intelligence Services (MI5, MI6) in the wake of the defections of Burgess and Maclean.
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on September 27, 2016, 06:10 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on October 04, 2016, 05:34 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on October 04, 2016, 01:44 PM
^ Watership Down, still remember it reasonably well from reading it in the seventies as a young fella.
(I'm starting to sound like an auld fella now :P)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on October 12, 2016, 05:23 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on October 12, 2016, 06:53 AM
A Voyage to Arcturus

I don't know if this is mentioned in the other thread, but the book is available as a free eBook (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1329)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: app103 on October 12, 2016, 06:18 PM
I am currently reading a book by a former employer. I had legal issues with him in the early 90's, related to wrongful termination and gender discrimination, and since I don't want him to make more money, especially at my expense, I bought it used for $0.01.  :D

I'd tell you what the title is, but as I said...I don't want to help him make money. It's light "educational" reading, chock full of anecdotes, targeted at small business owners. So if you are into that sort of thing, PM me and perhaps I'll mail the book to you when I am finished with it. So far, there is nothing really earth shattering in it that will help you make a million bucks, so it's a rather useless piece of entertainment.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on October 13, 2016, 07:15 AM
I bought it used for $0.01

That is quite a bargain.  Reminds me of the old 3 stooges routine where they are hawking something: "One for a dollar.  Three for a quarter."  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on October 13, 2016, 07:41 AM
Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions by Lisa Randall (https://www.amazon.com/Warped-Passages-Unraveling-Mysteries-Dimensions/dp/0060531096)

String theory physics book written for the layman but unfortunately largely incomprehensible to me.. Feels like I'm mostly reading about analogies that don't quite clarify things.  But the huge scope and subject matter is wonderful.  Feels like reading sci-fi.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on October 13, 2016, 08:00 AM
String theory physics book written for the layman but unfortunately largely incomprehensible to me.. Feels like I'm mostly reading about analogies that don't quite clarify things.

I am not up on String Theory.  But I'm sure one can get tangled up in it quite easily.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on October 19, 2016, 10:56 AM
Another set of books that I didn't finish:

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on October 20, 2016, 02:50 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: holt on October 29, 2016, 10:16 PM
WarGames novelization (unabridged audiobook).mp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMp5LRuj0OM) - narrated by Amy Mullin.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on November 03, 2016, 04:58 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on November 03, 2016, 10:37 PM
@panzer do you have any opinions or information on these books you're posting? What are they about? Are they good? Are they worth reading? Do you recommend them?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on November 04, 2016, 03:02 AM
I post only books that I like. If you are interested in any of the books I've posted, just ask me what they are about.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on November 04, 2016, 06:10 AM
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all your images have disappeared here :-(
Here with BBCode disabled:

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on November 04, 2016, 06:45 AM
all your images have disappeared here :-(
Here with BBCode disabled:

I guess that's why they always said "you can't judge a book by its cover."  heh heh
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on November 04, 2016, 01:03 PM
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all your images have disappeared here :-(
Here with BBCode disabled:

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That is very strange for them to universally and unilaterally disappear from a service like that!  You can also get to the image URL by right clicking on the empty image and opening in a new tab.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on November 06, 2016, 01:01 PM
^ they now working with that machine (laptop), so may have been something to do with my location at the time :-\
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on November 06, 2016, 09:07 PM
They are now working with my machine also- so maybe it has more to do with Tinypic than anything else?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on November 07, 2016, 07:25 AM
Probably. I didn't see them either ...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on November 07, 2016, 09:10 PM
That is why it is generally preferable to upload images directly to the DC forum itself rather than use an external image hosting service: So that images attached to posts will stick around as long as the forums do, rather than for as long as the external site keeps them around.

We've lost some good stuff due to 3rd party image hosting. :(
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on November 08, 2016, 09:29 AM
That is why it is generally preferable to upload images directly to the DC forum itself rather than use an external image hosting service: So that images attached to posts will stick around as long as the forums do, rather than for as long as the external site keeps them around.

We've lost some good stuff due to 3rd party image hosting. :(

For silly stuff, however, I upload it to the 3rd party.  It takes space and bandwidth from DC, and drives up costs.  There are pros and cons to both ways.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on November 23, 2016, 08:01 AM
Skipped (unfinished):

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on November 23, 2016, 08:02 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 14, 2016, 10:14 AM
Rick Yancey's "The Fifth Wave" trilogy.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on December 14, 2016, 10:48 AM
I have been reading the Culture Series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_series#Books_in_the_series) by Iain Banks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Banks)

I haven't been able to read them in order.  I started with The Hydrogen Sonata since it was on the shelf in the local library.  Fortunately they are not tightly coupled.  The commonality is the protagonist gets involved with a group in The Culture known as Special Circumstances.  A section of the civilization's intelligence agency that influences events through clandestine action.

I am trying to finish up Surface Detail. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_Detail)  I have Excession (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excession) on hold for a couple more days.  No way do I wish to lug both about town simultaneously.  They tend to be hardcover tomes.  :)

Needless to say, the author uses the situations and special circumstances of civilizations with technology thousands of years ahead of ours to draw some parallels to the moral quandaries we face.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on December 19, 2016, 02:37 PM
@panzer:

Where do you get your nice cover artwork from, please?  Clearly not from scanning actual books.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on December 19, 2016, 03:48 PM
I search for them online ...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 20, 2016, 07:32 AM
Finishing Book 3 of the Third Wave trilogy by Rick Yancey, and about 3/4 through The Regulators, by Stephen King.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Arizona Hot on December 20, 2016, 10:24 AM
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I am reading "Infinite Regress" by Christopher Nuttall. It's book 9 of the series, so I must like his work. I am reading the Kindle version (https://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Regress-Schooled-Magic-Book-ebook/dp/B01G2QRCQ0). It makes it much easier to carry my collection with me.

Title: Books I am reading: The Log from the Sea of Cortez (Steinbeck)
Post by: IainB on January 01, 2017, 09:29 AM
Reading again a book - The Log from the Sea of Cortez (http://The Log from the Sea of Cortez) - which I think with Of Mice and Men (a profoundly thoughtful book) formed my introduction to a man who became one of my favourite writers - the American author John Steinbeck (though I have not read all of his books).

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I'm not sure, but I think The Log may have been the first book by Steinbeck that I read (it was either that or Of Mice that was the first, anyway). As a child of 12 y/o I found it (a Penguin paperback) amongst the books at home, and, being interested in all things biology and including marine biology (my earliest years included living beside the sea, and later on the seaside was never far away and I was fascinated by marine pond life), I was curious enough to read the book.

I recall that, initially I had somehow been expecting the book to be fictional. I discovered that it was a non-fictional account of a six-week marine specimen-collecting boat expedition that Steinbeck and a marine biologist friend (Ed Ricketts) made in 1940, along various coastal sites in the Gulf of California (also known as the Sea of Cortez). The book introduced me to a few new things/ideas (e.g., that people might have the time and inclination to explore a coastal region, collecting specimens, just out of scientific curiosity) and I learned a special new word - "littoral":
littoral /"lIt(@)r(@)l/
· adj. of, relating to, or on the shore of the sea or a lake.
· n. a littoral region.
– ORIGIN C17: from L. littoralis, from litus, litor- ‘shore’.
Concise Oxford Dictionary (10th Ed.)
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I learned that what was special about this word was that, for a biologist, it described a narrow environmental band along all seashores around the planet - an environment that provided a unique ecosystem that supported a diverse collection of flora and fauna specialised to survive in that environment and not generally found elsewhere - i.e., usually only in that band between low and high tidal marks.
As a result, whenever I find myself on a seaside beach (lakes seem to be less diverse/interesting), in whatever country I happen to be, I invariably end up wandering along the beach, exploring the littoral by myself, or with my children, and it always reminds me of the book The Log from the Sea of Cortez, though I have always thought the title of the book somewhat misleading, since it is a log of a voyage along just a tiny part (the littoral) of the Gulf of California - i.e., hardly a pukka "sea" voyage per se.

I was reminded by a post - at brainpickings.org here (https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/12/30/john-steinbeck-new-year/) - of something that Steinbeck wrote - in his letters, that could also be be relevant to the the New Year of 2017 which for us is just beginning. He wrote it on January 1, 1941, when the world was in the midst of the WW2 Holocaust:
"... Speaking of the happy new year, I wonder if any year ever had less chance of being happy. It’s as though the whole race were indulging in a kind of species introversion — as though we looked inward on our neuroses. And the thing we see isn’t very pretty… So we go into this happy new year, knowing that our species has learned nothing, can, as a race, learn nothing — that the experience of ten thousand years has made no impression on the instincts of the million years that preceded. ..."
- but he went on in very thoughtful and philosophically optimistic vein for the future of the good in mankind.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Josh on January 01, 2017, 11:20 AM
This is an interesting take on the concept of hell and tells one man's journey through this temporary plane of existence.
If you like weird stuff, you might like Flann O'Brien (https://www.fantasticfiction.com/o/flann-obrien/)'s The Third Policeman.


Finished this one a few months ago and wanted to say thanks for the recommendation! What an interesting tale that dives into quite a few different topic areas. I kinda predicted the ending (at least the major premise behind it, not necessarily how it came to be) but that didn't take away from the journey of finding the third policeman.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Josh on January 01, 2017, 11:21 AM
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Panzer,

How was "The Fireman"? I found this one and have it on my wish list. I am interested in hearing your thoughts on it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on January 03, 2017, 04:20 AM
I didn't like it. Maybe my expectations were too high, but I found it boring and slow paced ... But that just me; you should give it a chance ...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on January 03, 2017, 04:58 AM
I didn't like it. Maybe my expectations were too high, but I found it boring and slow paced ... But that just me; you should give it a chance ...
Yes, always a good idea to give a book "a chance". Maybe get a pleasant surprise. One never knows what one risks learning from a book until one reads it.     :D
It's like a kind of adventure - e.g., The Catcher in the Rye, or Mein Kampf, or The Log from the Sea of Cortez.

Mind you, I'd usually have a preference for non-fiction if I expected to learn something, though sometimes fictional stories can be quite thought-provoking, if not educational - especially SF.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on January 03, 2017, 06:50 AM
I Want My Hat Back by  Jon Klassen (https://www.amazon.com/I-Want-My-Hat-Back/dp/0763655988)
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Loved it.  Made me laugh. The cover conveys it all -- if you don't laugh at the cover don't bother.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Josh on January 04, 2017, 06:44 PM
I didn't like it. Maybe my expectations were too high, but I found it boring and slow paced ... But that just me; you should give it a chance ...
Mind you, I'd usually have a preference for non-fiction if I expected to learn something, though sometimes fictional stories can be quite thought-provoking, if not educational - especially SF.

Speaking of thought provoking and educational, if you want that you should check out "A short stay in hell" which I linked to previously. It was a really interesting take on the "Library of Babel".

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on January 05, 2017, 02:01 AM
@kath-accubizbooks: That would be Katherine LaBarca. Owner, President of AccuBizBooks (Trenton, FL), I presume?

I don't know whether DC forum members would be interested in what you read (why don't you try us and see?), but I suspect that you would probably be able to pass some useful comments/tips on any accounting software we might have discussed or reviewed on this forum, and also suggest some other software we might not have known about.
I for one would always be interested in any discussions regarding financial modelling or accounting-related software, or books on same.
EDIT 2017-01-06 2300hrs: Yes, I wondered whether I was replying to spam - seems like I probably was. Pity. It would have been good to get some fresh input on the subject of financial/accounting software.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on February 03, 2017, 12:07 AM
As someone who started out with zero understanding of finance and investing, I would recommend all of these I think.

Personal Finance For Dummies Paperback – December 29, 2015 by Eric Tyson (Author)
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A Beginner's Guide to Investing: How to Grow Your Money the Smart and Easy Way - 2012 by Alex H Frey
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The Everything Investing Book: Smart strategies to secure your financial future! Paperback – September 18, 2009 by Michele Cagan
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The Ultimate Dividend Playbook: Income, Insight and Independence for Today's Investor Hardcover – January 2, 2008 by Josh Peters
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Investing For Dummies Paperback – January 30, 2017 by Eric Tyson
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The Tax and Legal Playbook: Game-Changing Solutions to Your Small-Business Questions Paperback – April 28, 2015 by Mark J. Kohler
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The Intelligent Investor Paperback – 2013 by Benjamin Graham
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The last one is a classic, whose first edition came out in the 40s, and which was updated again in the 70s, and now has commentary added from the 2000s.  It's big and interesting and almost philosophical.

All of the books above are focused on very cautious, defensive, long-term investing, and all emphasize the folly of trying to beat the market.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Renegade on February 06, 2017, 09:20 PM
I've done fairly well with investing. The easiest one so far is Bitcoin. Buy & HODL. But, hey... what do I know... I've only raked in more in a day than most people make in a year or more (not Bitcoin even).

Investing takes a lot of effort though. Read, read, watch, watch, think, think, buy... hold... SELL! Timing is everything.



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https://www.amazon.com/Questioning-Islam-Questions-Answers-Religion/dp/1500336203

Great book.

It's objective and calm. There's no hyperbole or anything. Everything is directly from primary sources and Islamic scholars.

Highly recommended for anyone looking to learn a bit more about Islam.

It doesn't get into political Islam or Sharia much though. That's not the scope of the book. It's simply about the actual scriptures, history, etc.

Fun bits include Islamic prescriptions for drinking camel urine, as well as others.



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Great book again.

If you're wondering why Donald Trump won, read this. It will help shed light on that.

It also gets into the innards of identity politics. The second half of the book is better on this front.

The first bit of the book is a bit dull if you're not into #GamerGate, but wildly awesome if you are.

If you're a gamer and interested in #GamerGate, this is a must read.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on February 07, 2017, 08:21 PM
Questioning Islam (https://www.amazon.com/Questioning-Islam-Questions-Answers-Religion/dp/1500336203)
Great book.
It's objective and calm. There's no hyperbole or anything. Everything is directly from primary sources and Islamic scholars.
Highly recommended for anyone looking to learn a bit more about Islam.
It doesn't get into political Islam or Sharia much though. That's not the scope of the book. It's simply about the actual scriptures, history, etc.
Fun bits include Islamic prescriptions for drinking camel urine, as well as others.
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One of the best ways of learning about Islam would probably be to study the Quran itself - and English or other language translation of it. One of the best English translations of the Quran is arguably the Penguin Classic by N.J.Dawood (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N._J._Dawood)

Also, don't forget Re: Interfaith Explorer (FREE) - Mini-Review (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=36214.msg345456#msg345456) (which you have commented on previously).

Plus there is a bare-bones discussion of the Quran at PJ Media by Robert Spencer in "Blogging the Quran", starting with Sura 1: THE WORLDWIDE MUST-READ: Robert Spencer's Blogging the Qur’an: Sura 1, 'The Opening' (https://pjmedia.com/blog/the-worldwide-must-read-robert-spencers-blogging-the-quran-sura-1-the-opening/)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on February 07, 2017, 08:49 PM
I am currently reading/comparing the two editions of: The River War: An Historical Account of the Reconquest of the Soudan (http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_River_War), by Winston Churchill, concerning his experiences as a British Army officer, during the Mahdist War (1881–99) in the Sudan.

There are maps and other illustrations in the book.
The 1st edition was dated 1899 (at which time Churchill would have been 25 years old) and ran to two volumes.
The 2nd edition was dated 1902 and was heavily expurgated and condensed into a single volume.
Various forms of the 2 editions (3 volumes in all) can be downloaded from Gutenberg Press and Wayback Machine. I settled for scanned/OCR'd .PDF files, which makes them easier to search than just plain image .PDF files. Also loaded them into my Kindle.
Interesting glimpses of the man's mind. Even at 25, Churchill seems to have been a good historical researcher and a rather wise and farsighted strategist.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: erikts on February 07, 2017, 11:05 PM
Various forms of the 2 editions (3 volumes in all) can be downloaded from Gutenberg Press and Wayback Machine.

I have searched https://www.gutenberg.org/ but can't find the book. Do you have link to the book? Thank you very much.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on February 08, 2017, 02:56 AM
Questioning the Quran (https://www.amazon.com/Questioning-Islam-Questions-Answers-Religion/dp/1500336203)

One of the best ways of learning about Islam would probably be to study the Quran itself - an English or other language translation of it.

Why did you change the title of the book when you quoted Renegade?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on February 08, 2017, 06:25 AM
Why did you change the title of the book when you quoted Renegade?
Oops! Thanks for spotting that. I hadn't realised in my haste that I had cut-and-pasted the wrong title (fortunately the link was still correct though). Corrected now.

However, I should probably point out that Islam and the Quran/Koran are essentially indistinguishable, since Islam literally means "Submit" to the absolute and infallible word of Allah that is embodied in the "Quran" ("The Recital").
By definition therefore, questioning Islam is questioning the Quran and is highly offensive to Islam/Muslims and a punishable blasphemy, so I would not recommend it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on February 08, 2017, 09:38 AM
Various forms of the 2 editions (3 volumes in all) can be downloaded from Gutenberg Press and Wayback Machine.
I have searched https://www.gutenberg.org/ but can't find the book. Do you have link to the book? Thank you very much.
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At the webpage link I gave to the Wikipedia page: The River War: An Historical Account of the Reconquest of the Soudan (http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_River_War)
- they give these links under "External Links":
These are the best 1st editions (1899) that I could find (have colour and illustrations), though the OCR is not without errors - probably due to the relatively poor/old quality of the paper and typesetting being scanned, or "noisy" images.
Decent copies of the 1st edition (1899) with searchable text are more difficult to come by, which is apparently why the above unabridged versions were kindly donated.

Below that in the Wikipedia page are links to the Internet Archive/Wayback machine and Project Gutenberg where you will find various formats of file for the abridged 2nd edition (1902).
You will also be able to find there some .mobi and .mbp files, and others - e.g., HTML conversion of 2nd Ed. (1902) version: http://gutenberg.readingroo.ms/4/9/4/4943/4943-h/4943-h.htm

So, to recap, the best .PDF files with relatively clear image, illustrations and full OCR:
Sorry, I didn't keep a link for the red cover document, but it came from the Internet Archive, and was scanned from a University of Pittsburgh library hardcopy.
If you can't find any/all of these I can put my copies up in the Cloud for you to download (they are all in the public domain), so let me know if you need them.

I wasn't too fussed about getting the newer edition, as I gather it had been expurgated and condensed to remove a lot of "politically incorrect" material. The thing is, Churchill didn't mince his words and tended to "tell it like it was" and would be openly critical of the British for any historic campaign failings he described. I recall reading a quote of Churchill's, made in reference to the tyranny of the politically correct, or something.

Hope this helps or is of use.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on February 08, 2017, 05:57 PM
Investing takes a lot of effort though. Read, read, watch, watch, think, think, buy... hold... SELL! Timing is everything.

I'll just point out that a very common theme of all of the serious investing books I have read, from absolute trusted names, are unanimous that trying to time the market and buy and sell stocks in anticipation of stocks going up and down is folly and almost certain to lead you to failure.  They all emphasize that you are not going to be able to beat the market and the professional day traders, and that the way to win the game of investing is to be cautious and put your money in for the long run in a very diversified set of conservative investments and just let your money grow with the overall trends of the market.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: erikts on February 08, 2017, 08:04 PM
Below that in the Wikipedia page are links to the Internet Archive/Wayback machine and Project Gutenberg where you will find various formats of file for the abridged 2nd edition (1902).
You will also be able to find there some .mobi and .mbp files, and others - e.g., HTML conversion of 2nd Ed. (1902) version: http://gutenberg.readingroo.ms/4/9/4/4943/4943-h/4943-h.htm

Thank you very much Iain for the information and write up.

After reading your post, I found the book page on Project Gutenberg:

The River War: An Account of the Reconquest of the Sudan by Winston Churchill
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4943
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on February 10, 2017, 12:52 AM
Below that in the Wikipedia page are links to the Internet Archive/Wayback machine and Project Gutenberg where you will find various formats of file for the abridged 2nd edition (1902).
You will also be able to find there some .mobi and .mbp files, and others - e.g., HTML conversion of 2nd Ed. (1902) version: http://gutenberg.readingroo.ms/4/9/4/4943/4943-h/4943-h.htm

Thank you very much Iain for the information and write up.
After reading your post, I found the book page on Project Gutenberg:
The River War: An Account of the Reconquest of the Sudan by Winston Churchill
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4943

Glad you found that OK at the link I provided.

By the way, I am pleased to relate that I have re-found the source of the good/best .PDF of the 2nd Edition (1902) of The River War - the one with the red cover. I retraced my footsteps and this is the Archive.org source:
As well as putting the eBooks into the Kindle for PC ($Free) library, I've put all 3 volumes (the .PDF files) into my Zotero (https://www.zotero.org/) database, along with snapshots of the related websites, sources, Wikipedia notes, etc. This is part of my extended trial of Zotero - I quite like how it can automatically gather bibliographic references and other metadata.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
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Title: Re: What books are you reading? - Fundamentals of corporate finance.
Post by: IainB on February 13, 2017, 02:49 PM
Found this superb textbook: (text is in spoiler at the end)
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on February 14, 2017, 08:03 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wjamoe on February 14, 2017, 10:54 PM
The Simpsons and their mathematical secrets is also one of the books I am reading.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: f0dder on February 28, 2017, 04:55 PM
Finally reading The Mythical Man-Month (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13629.The_Mythical_Man_Month).
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"Few books on software project management have been as influential and timeless as The Mythical Man-Month. With a blend of software engineering facts and thought-provoking opinions, Fred Brooks offers insight for anyone managing complex projects."

While I'm a developer and not a project manager, I've been told (and sorta agree) that it's one of the "really should read" books in the industry. It's probably a bit over-hyped, but nonetheless it's a good read so far (next chapter is "No Silver Bullet") - and it's amazing how little of it seems dated, even though the first edition is from 1975.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Ath on March 01, 2017, 01:09 AM
Finished The Phoenix Project (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17255186-the-phoenix-project) just a couple of days ago

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Still planning to read The Mythical Man-Month, it's hiding somewhere in the office here, just have to recover it :tellme:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on March 13, 2017, 04:41 PM
Aliette de Bodard's trilogy
Aliette de Bodard is one of the panellists in the 2017-03-13 edition of:
BBC Radio 4 - Beyond Belief, Science Fiction (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08hm0x9)
Science fiction has perhaps been unfairly dismissed by many critics and academics; seen by some as a niche genre, not befitting the elite group of literary works deemed to be 'high art'. While some examples ofscience fiction could be criticised for perpetuating fantasy clichés, others undoubtedly explore the biggest questions of life. Fans argue that the Sci-Fi universe allows the audience to suspend their disbelief about what is conventional, and opens up a space to explore philosophical, ethical and religious ideas in a relatable, absorbing and entertaining way. So how has religion been explored in the most influential works of science fiction? And what does science fiction have to tell us about faith and religion?

Robert Beckford discusses the role of religion in science fiction with Aliette de Bodard, a writer with an interest in the interplay between science fiction and religion; Roz Kaveney, a writer, poet and critic; and Dr Sarah Dillon, author and Cambridge academic who explores science fiction in literature and film.
Podcast available from the web site above.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 03, 2017, 12:13 PM
When I was in high school I got a kick out of reading a satirical scifi novel When They Come From Space (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3148210-when-they-came-from-space) by Mark Clifton.  They wanted $10 for it on Amazon but I found it on Kobo DRM-free for $2.99.  I will likely start reading it again later this afternoon.  It was published in 1962 so it will be interesting to see if it feels dated now.  Especially since the Cold War(tm) is over.  :)

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Edit:  I finished the book today. It still has its bite.  The main thing dated in the story is the necessity to get a "long distance operator" to make the connection for you for long distance calls.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on April 03, 2017, 02:34 PM
For about the past two years, I've had a tab constantly open to Packt's Free Learning eBook of the Day (https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning) so I can claim any book they offer on any topic that seems remotely interesting to me.

So I've got a decently large collection of Packt books by now, and most of them I haven't even cracked the cover on (so to speak) yet. This is largely because many of the books were a "maybe someday I'll wanna know more about this" type of thing. But also because they tend to give away older books which may be somewhat outdated, since technology changes so quickly. And also, of course, the fact that it's free means if I'm on the fence about something, I'll grab it "just in case" rather than exercise greater discernment about whether or not I truly want to read a book about that topic.

But lately I've actually started looking through some of the books and being pleasantly surprised at how much useful information is in them.

These are the latest ones I've started to delve into, because even though I code in C# while using Unity (http://unity3d.com/), I never really learned much about C# outside of the context of Unity.

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Learning C# by Developing Games in Unity 5.x - Second Edition (https://www.packtpub.com/game-development/learning-c-developing-games-unity-5x-second-edition)

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C# 6 and .NET Core 1.0 - Modern Cross-Platform Development (https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/c-6-and-net-core-10)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on April 03, 2017, 08:50 PM
^ Though packt is a lot cheaper option than others out there, I've found that the information within is as good, or better, than the other offerings.  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 10, 2017, 11:10 AM
More like a short story, but I followed up When They Come From Space by Mark Clifton, with Do Unto Others (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32181).  I suspect Mark viewed Imperialism(tm) with a jaundiced eye to say the least.  :)

I have a few more of his eBooks to curb my appetite until my Green Lantern anthology arrives at the Library.  :)



Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 10, 2017, 08:44 PM
The Holographic Universe
The Revolutionary Theory Of Reality
by Michael Talbot

Published in 1991 but new to me.
"...all matter exists in a vast web of connection"

An interesting challenge to my own existentialist view of life, viz. nothing matters and what if it did.
 
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 11, 2017, 07:06 AM
"...all matter exists in a vast web of connection"

-cranioscopical (April 10, 2017, 08:44 PM)

My father's favorite expression was "It's not what you know.  It's who you know."  :)

Unfortunately he never introduced me to anyone useful.  :(

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Target on April 17, 2017, 06:05 PM
found this site this morning, and if any of you are anything like me (who hates picking up a book only to find you're half way through (or worse, at the end!!) a series it's likely useful

http://www.orderofbooks.com/ - purports to list book series in order.  Its clearly not comprehensive, but its certainly worth keeping up your sleeve :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 18, 2017, 07:16 AM
found this site this morning, and if any of you are anything like me (who hates picking up a book only to find you're half way through (or worse, at the end!!) a series it's likely useful

http://www.orderofbooks.com/ - purports to list book series in order.  Its clearly not comprehensive, but its certainly worth keeping up your sleeve :)

Another good resource is the Wiki.  If you look up the author often there are sections for series with the books in order.  In addition books not officially in the series that transpire in the same universe may be noted.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 18, 2017, 02:33 PM
My father's favorite expression was "It's not what you know.  It's who you know."  :)

Unfortunately he never introduced me to anyone useful.  :(

Well, what do you know!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 18, 2017, 03:37 PM
My father's favorite expression was "It's not what you know.  It's who you know."  :)

Unfortunately he never introduced me to anyone useful.  :(

Well, what do you know!
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 02:33 PM)

Unfortunately I wasted a lot of time learning how to do stuff instead of who to do it for.  :)  It is pretty funny when I think about it.  My father did not have a gregarious personality.  But he ran for public office three times.  I suspect he didn't really want to win very badly.  The large Irish enclave is South Boston.  When my sister told him she was going to get married and live there he asked her "why do you want to be around those kind of people?"  He should have tried for an appointed position if he wanted to get into government.  :)

Edit: The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."  Made me think of the "who you know" homily my father favored.  :)

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Shades on April 19, 2017, 01:26 AM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 19, 2017, 07:04 AM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)

Heh heh heh.  Fortunately in Miami I don't have to worry about coming in from the cold.  ;)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 19, 2017, 07:04 AM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P

Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 19, 2017, 01:37 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Target on April 19, 2017, 05:55 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 19, 2017, 06:28 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Target on April 19, 2017, 07:42 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Target on April 19, 2017, 10:12 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM)

just lightning the tone
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 20, 2017, 07:03 AM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM)

just lightning the tone

Just the spark needed to start off the day!

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Like-Like-approved-agree-smiley-emoticon-001275-medium.gif) (http://"http://zaazu.com")
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Target on April 20, 2017, 06:42 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM)

just lightning the tone

Just the spark needed to start off the day!

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Like-Like-approved-agree-smiley-emoticon-001275-medium.gif) (http://"http://zaazu.com")


just so long as you guys don't start flashing us :o
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 20, 2017, 07:03 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM)

just lightning the tone

Just the spark needed to start off the day!

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Like-Like-approved-agree-smiley-emoticon-001275-medium.gif) (http://"http://zaazu.com")


just so long as you guys don't start flashing us :o

No, no, no! One always must protect the crown joules.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 21, 2017, 09:03 AM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM)

just lightning the tone

Just the spark needed to start off the day!

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Like-Like-approved-agree-smiley-emoticon-001275-medium.gif) (http://"http://zaazu.com")


just so long as you guys don't start flashing us :o

No, no, no! One always must protect the crown joules.

-cranioscopical (April 20, 2017, 07:03 PM)

I can always rely on you to keep current on these threads.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 21, 2017, 04:28 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM)

just lightning the tone

Just the spark needed to start off the day!

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Like-Like-approved-agree-smiley-emoticon-001275-medium.gif) (http://"http://zaazu.com")


just so long as you guys don't start flashing us :o

No, no, no! One always must protect the crown joules.

-cranioscopical (April 20, 2017, 07:03 PM)

I can always rely on you to keep current on these threads.
It's a struggle to keep in step but I discovered that there's no pace like ohm.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 21, 2017, 08:43 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM)

just lightning the tone

Just the spark needed to start off the day!

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Like-Like-approved-agree-smiley-emoticon-001275-medium.gif) (http://"http://zaazu.com")


just so long as you guys don't start flashing us :o

No, no, no! One always must protect the crown joules.

-cranioscopical (April 20, 2017, 07:03 PM)

I can always rely on you to keep current on these threads.
It's a struggle to keep in step but I discovered that there's no pace like ohm.


-cranioscopical (April 21, 2017, 04:28 PM)

I erg you to resist making these puns.  But obviously I ignore my own advice.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 21, 2017, 09:56 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM)

just lightning the tone

Just the spark needed to start off the day!

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Like-Like-approved-agree-smiley-emoticon-001275-medium.gif) (http://"http://zaazu.com")


just so long as you guys don't start flashing us :o

No, no, no! One always must protect the crown joules.

-cranioscopical (April 20, 2017, 07:03 PM)

I can always rely on you to keep current on these threads.
It's a struggle to keep in step but I discovered that there's no pace like ohm.


-cranioscopical (April 21, 2017, 04:28 PM)

I erg you to resist making these puns.  But obviously I ignore my own advice.
Say watt?
 
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 24, 2017, 07:27 AM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
-cranioscopical (April 18, 2017, 09:32 PM)
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 01:30 PM)

Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.


knot funny...

What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)


clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
-cranioscopical (April 19, 2017, 09:58 PM)

just lightning the tone

Just the spark needed to start off the day!

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Like-Like-approved-agree-smiley-emoticon-001275-medium.gif) (http://"http://zaazu.com")


just so long as you guys don't start flashing us :o

No, no, no! One always must protect the crown joules.

-cranioscopical (April 20, 2017, 07:03 PM)

I can always rely on you to keep current on these threads.
It's a struggle to keep in step but I discovered that there's no pace like ohm.


-cranioscopical (April 21, 2017, 04:28 PM)

I erg you to resist making these puns.  But obviously I ignore my own advice.
Say watt?
 
-cranioscopical (April 21, 2017, 09:56 PM)

As William Bendix said in every episode of The Life of Reilly (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045406/)
"what a revolting development this is!"
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 24, 2017, 03:16 PM
The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
 
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.

Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
 
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
 
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
 
Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.

knot funny...
 
What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)

clearly we need better shielding :-\

Down to earth, as ever.
 
just lightning the tone

Just the spark needed to start off the day!

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Like-Like-approved-agree-smiley-emoticon-001275-medium.gif) (http://"http://zaazu.com")

just so long as you guys don't start flashing us :o

No, no, no! One always must protect the crown joules.

I can always rely on you to keep current on these threads.
 
It's a struggle to keep in step but I discovered that there's no pace like ohm.

I erg you to resist making these puns.  But obviously I ignore my own advice.
 
Say watt?

(Somebody had to shorten it... or buy me a better magnifying glass.)
As William Bendix said in every episode of The Life of Reilly (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045406/)
"what a revolting development this is!"
Guilty as charged.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on April 24, 2017, 10:18 PM
The law says that one cannot be charged if one does not possess the necessary capacity.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 25, 2017, 10:28 AM
The law says that one cannot be charged if one does not possess the necessary capacity.

Hmm, I wonder if a "trans-sister" is someone who starts out like Bruce Jenner but ends up like Caitlyn?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 25, 2017, 05:56 PM
The law says that one cannot be charged if one does not possess the necessary capacity.

Hmm, I wonder if a "trans-sister" is someone who starts out like Bruce Jenner but ends up like Caitlyn?
Perhaps, in the case of a bipolar junction trans-sister.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on April 26, 2017, 07:30 AM
The law says that one cannot be charged if one does not possess the necessary capacity.

Hmm, I wonder if a "trans-sister" is someone who starts out like Bruce Jenner but ends up like Caitlyn?
Perhaps, in the case of a bipolar junction trans-sister.
-cranioscopical (April 25, 2017, 05:56 PM)

I heard the porn industry, innovators that they are, were the first to demonstrate the "feel effect trans-sister."  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on April 26, 2017, 08:24 AM
Not to be a spoilsport, but this has gone on for several pages, and this is a thread I keep track of to see new books.  Should I just stop keeping track of it?  Or can we perhaps take the puns to a different thread?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: cranioscopical on April 26, 2017, 09:12 AM
Not to be a spoilsport, but this has gone on for several pages, and this is a thread I keep track of to see new books.  Should I just stop keeping track of it?  Or can we perhaps take the puns to a different thread?
:-[

Ever the diplomat, and you're quite right, sorry!
 
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Curt on April 26, 2017, 10:46 AM
when all is said

The comment started out as a play on "vast web of connections."
/quote
Yeah, I got that. Now that you say so, I think I spied a pun in there somewhere.
/quote
Are we really going down the wire with this?  :P
/quote
Wire you saying that Shades?   :)
/quote
I'm surprised you couldn't gauge his intent.
/quote
Ah well, mystery is the splice of life.
/quote
knot funny...
/quote
What can I say?  Cranioscopical and I are a twisted pair.  :)
/quote
clearly we need better shielding :-\
/quote
Down to earth, as ever.
/quote
just lightning the tone
/quote
Just the spark needed to start off the day!
/quote
just so long as you guys don't start flashing us :o
/quote
No, no, no! One always must protect the crown joules.
/quote
I can always rely on you to keep current on these threads.
/quote
It's a struggle to keep in step but I discovered that there's no pace like ohm.
/quote
I erg you to resist making these puns.  But obviously I ignore my own advice.
/quote
Say watt?
/quote
As William Bendix said in every episode of The Life of Reilly (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045406/)
"what a revolting development this is!"

, the only way is the excess way  :tellme:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Zachariasz on April 30, 2017, 03:13 PM
I'm reading Hawking's "Brief history of time". Physics for dummies)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 06, 2017, 06:22 AM
Dumped:

(https://5-t.imgbox.com/cI2Q5jAr.jpg)(https://9-t.imgbox.com/484IVdeK.jpg)(https://1-t.imgbox.com/MbEaHFrO.jpg)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 06, 2017, 06:24 AM
(https://6-t.imgbox.com/hz8ZNbcm.jpg)
Title: Re: What books are you reading? - Flashman.
Post by: IainB on June 06, 2017, 08:11 AM
I'm not sure what @panzer means by "dumped", but when he referred to "Flashman" (by George MacDonald Fraser) I would have to say that I found the Flashman books that I read in the series to be very witty and amusing - I recall that I read Flashman first, and later The Flashman Papers.
There is an interesting Guardian obituary for George MacDonald Fraser (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/jan/03/georgemacdonaldfraser), who died aged 82 in 2008.
Wikipedia have a useful entry about the Flashman novel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashman_(novel)).

The Flashman books might not be so easy to understand or appreciate by those who do not have a reasonable knowledge of English literature or of the history of British-Indian colonisation.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: exjoburger on June 06, 2017, 01:05 PM
Taking a break from some of the books I'm plodding through on my Kindle (Columbine by Dave Cullen, Steve Jobs by
Walter Isaacson), A book I'm currently reading is:

Persuader by Lee Child (A Jack Reacher novel) 

I haven't seen any of the Tom Cruise movies, but the description of Jack Reacher has him at six foot five or so - and I keep on thinking how much bigger taller and tougher the guy in the novel is in comparison to the actor.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on June 06, 2017, 01:27 PM
Taking a break from some of the books I'm plodding through on my Kindle (Columbine by Dave Cullen, Steve Jobs by
Walter Isaacson), A book I'm currently reading is:

Persuader by Lee Child (A Jack Reacher novel) 

I haven't seen any of the Tom Cruise movies, but the description of Jack Reacher has him at six foot five or so - and I keep on thinking how much bigger taller and tougher the guy in the novel is in comparison to the actor.

I don't view the actors in the movies as anything according to the descriptions in the novels.  Lestat is also not described in a way that would make one think "Tom Cruise", but he was excellent in the role.  I find that those who look at the novels in the same manner as the movie/TV series end up being disappointed by what is truthfully in my opinion the most superficial thing about the descriptions.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 06, 2017, 01:29 PM
Taking a break from some of the books I'm plodding through on my Kindle (Columbine by Dave Cullen, Steve Jobs by
Walter Isaacson), A book I'm currently reading is:

Persuader by Lee Child (A Jack Reacher novel) 

I haven't seen any of the Tom Cruise movies, but the description of Jack Reacher has him at six foot five or so - and I keep on thinking how much bigger taller and tougher the guy in the novel is in comparison to the actor.

I feel the same way about Daniel Craig in the Bond films.  At least Sean Connery was a physical match for the character.  Roger Moore was probably too much of a sophisticate.  But even so he had some size to him.  You could believe he would win a lot of the fights.  Craig needs to carry a machine pistol to a fist fight to stand a chance.  :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: exjoburger on June 06, 2017, 01:51 PM
Taking a break from some of the books I'm plodding through on my Kindle (Columbine by Dave Cullen, Steve Jobs by
Walter Isaacson), A book I'm currently reading is:

Persuader by Lee Child (A Jack Reacher novel) 

I haven't seen any of the Tom Cruise movies, but the description of Jack Reacher has him at six foot five or so - and I keep on thinking how much bigger taller and tougher the guy in the novel is in comparison to the actor.

I don't view the actors in the movies as anything according to the descriptions in the novels.  Lestat is also not described in a way that would make one think "Tom Cruise", but he was excellent in the role.  I find that those who look at the novels in the same manner as the movie/TV series end up being disappointed by what is truthfully in my opinion the most superficial thing about the descriptions.

I just find it amusing while I'm reading the author's description. It wouldn't stop me from enjoying a movie with Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher.

MilesAhead - I actually never realized Daniel Craig was not "tall/tough". I actually enjoyed his portrayal as Bond, I thought he was one of the better Bonds, excluding Sean Connery of course.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on June 06, 2017, 02:37 PM
Taking a break from some of the books I'm plodding through on my Kindle (Columbine by Dave Cullen, Steve Jobs by
Walter Isaacson), A book I'm currently reading is:

Persuader by Lee Child (A Jack Reacher novel) 

I haven't seen any of the Tom Cruise movies, but the description of Jack Reacher has him at six foot five or so - and I keep on thinking how much bigger taller and tougher the guy in the novel is in comparison to the actor.

I feel the same way about Daniel Craig in the Bond films.  At least Sean Connery was a physical match for the character.  Roger Moore was probably too much of a sophisticate.  But even so he had some size to him.  You could believe he would win a lot of the fights.  Craig needs to carry a machine pistol to a fist fight to stand a chance.  :)



You think so?  With that fight in Casino Royale?  One of the most brutal hand to hand scenes in any Bond movie, IMO.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 06, 2017, 02:44 PM
I'm not sure what @panzer means by "dumped"

Dumped -  not finished.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on June 06, 2017, 02:53 PM
I'm not sure what @panzer means by "dumped"

Dumped -  not finished.

I have a hard time doing that with a book.  Currently, I'm reading the Magicians by Lev Grossman, and the TV show is actually better IMO... the book is rather a slog.  But I'm still trying.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 07, 2017, 04:03 AM
I'm not sure what @panzer means by "dumped"

Dumped -  not finished.

I have a hard time doing that with a book.  Currently, I'm reading the Magicians by Lev Grossman, and the TV show is actually better IMO... the book is rather a slog.  But I'm still trying.

I have 900+ books on the list so if I don't like a partiicular book, I just stop reading it and start reading another one. I mean, why bother?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 07, 2017, 07:10 AM
MilesAhead - I actually never realized Daniel Craig was not "tall/tough". I actually enjoyed his portrayal as Bond, I thought he was one of the better Bonds, excluding Sean Connery of course.


Wow!  This is weird.  I remembered a quote from the guy who played the "wire in the watch" killer "Grant" in From Russia With Love that Connery was so much bigger that he had to stand on a box to film the fight scenes.  When I just visited IMDB it has Robert Shaw from The Sting and Jaws as Grant.  I guess I didn't recognize him because he had blond hair in From Russia With Love.  When I was a teenager I must have watched that film a dozen times.  I never made the connection to Robert Shaw when I saw his other films.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on June 07, 2017, 07:42 AM
I'm not sure what @panzer means by "dumped"

Dumped -  not finished.

I have a hard time doing that with a book.  Currently, I'm reading the Magicians by Lev Grossman, and the TV show is actually better IMO... the book is rather a slog.  But I'm still trying.

I have 900+ books on the list so if I don't like a partiicular book, I just stop reading it and start reading another one. I mean, why bother?


It might get better... I've had that happen before.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 07, 2017, 08:05 AM
That's true sometimes.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 28, 2017, 11:00 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on June 28, 2017, 12:30 PM
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The Long Walk is one of my favorite Steven King books.  I had it in an anthology called The Bachman Books (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachman_Books) (a lot of his stories written under the Richard Bachman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bachman) pseudonym), and to tell you what it's about would be to ruin the pathos of dawning horror.  But it is very good and recommended.  Also in that anthology are Roadwork  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadwork)(arguably- at least by me- Falling Down is based on that) and the Running Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Running_Man_(novel)) (nothing like the tepid Schwartzenegger flick)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on June 28, 2017, 03:33 PM
^^ Thanks. Useful comment. I learned something there and after looking it up on Amazon - about the Bachman books comprising "Rage", "The Long Walk", "Roadwork" and "The Running Man".
Of those four, I have only read "Rage". I thought it a superb story, with a very realistic development of the central character and his pent-up rage, to which there was probably only one likely - if not inevitable - outcome.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on June 29, 2017, 02:19 AM
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The Long Walk is one of my favorite Steven King books.  I had it in an anthology called The Bachman Books (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachman_Books) (a lot of his stories written under the Richard Bachman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bachman) pseudonym), and to tell you what it's about would be to ruin the pathos of dawning horror.  But it is very good and recommended.  Also in that anthology are Roadwork  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadwork)(arguably- at least by me- Falling Down is based on that) and the Running Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Running_Man_(novel)) (nothing like the tepid Schwartzenegger flick)

Only problem with it is that King had no clue how fast a human can walk. Hundred of miles with speed over 4 miles per hour (6-9) is just not realistic. Not for a bunch of teenagers ... I can do almost 7 km in one hour (average speed of 7,5 km/h on a distance of 500 meters and 8,4 km/h on same distance on uphill road with small elevation) but after several hours I would surely drop below minimum speed ... And they walked that fast while eating, smoking and speaking with each other ... I feel he should do some more research on the matter ... Otherwise it is a good book, a little bit too long, but good ...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on June 29, 2017, 09:54 AM
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The Long Walk is one of my favorite Steven King books.  I had it in an anthology called The Bachman Books (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachman_Books) (a lot of his stories written under the Richard Bachman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bachman) pseudonym), and to tell you what it's about would be to ruin the pathos of dawning horror.  But it is very good and recommended.  Also in that anthology are Roadwork  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadwork)(arguably- at least by me- Falling Down is based on that) and the Running Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Running_Man_(novel)) (nothing like the tepid Schwartzenegger flick)

Only problem with it is that King had no clue how fast a human can walk. Hundred of miles with speed over 4 miles per hour (6-9) is just not realistic. Not for a bunch of teenagers ... I can do almost 7 km in one hour (average speed of 7,5 km/h on a distance of 500 meters and 8,4 km/h on same distance on uphill road with small elevation) but after several hours I would surely drop below minimum speed ... And they walked that fast while eating, smoking and speaking with each other ... I feel he should do some more research on the matter ... Otherwise it is a good book, a little bit too long, but good ...


I didn't find it unrealistic.  Especially with the other factors considered that I don't really want to go into for concern at spoiling the novel.  But we can agree to disagree on that.
Title: Re: What books are you reading? - Adults-in-the-Room (economics).
Post by: IainB on July 01, 2017, 05:56 AM
Adults in the Room– My battle with Europe's deep establishment (https://www.amazon.com/Adults-in-the-Room/dp/1847924468)
- by Prof. Yanis Varoufakis (former finance minister of Greece).
(The book's title is a sarcastic comment on the statist elite's patronising view of the masses.)
Brilliant book by a highly rational and concerned economist who is essentially performing the very useful role of whistleblower on "bankruptism" economics.
No proponent of "magic economics" or quantitative easing, the professor bluntly tells it like it is.
I found it quite alarming, and I suspect that he is right on all counts. Worth reading.
Amazon review:
https://www.amazon.com/Adults-in-the-Room/dp/1847924468
A Number One Sunday Times Bestseller.
What happens when you take on the establishment? In Adults in the Room, the renowned economist and former finance minister of Greece Yanis Varoufakis gives the full, blistering account of his momentous clash with the mightiest economic and political forces on earth.

After being swept into power with the left-wing Syriza party, Varoufakis attempts to renegotiate Greece’s relationship with the EU?and sparks a spectacular battle with global implications. Varoufakis’s new position sends him ricocheting between mass demonstrations in Athens, closed-door negotiations in drab EU and IMF offices, and furtive meetings with power brokers in Washington, D.C. He consults and quarrels with Barack Obama, Emmanuel Macron, Christine Lagarde, the economists Larry Summers and Jeffrey Sachs, and others, as he struggles to resolve Greece’s debt crisis without resorting to punishing austerity measures. But despite the mass support of the Greek people and the simple logic of Varoufakis’s arguments, he succeeds only in provoking the fury of Europe’s elite.

Varoufakis’s unvarnished memoir is an urgent warning that the economic policies once embraced by the EU and the White House have failed?and spawned authoritarianism, populist revolt, and instability throughout the Western world. Adults in the Room is an extraordinary tale of brinkmanship, hypocrisy, collusion, and betrayal that will shake the global establishment to its foundations.

3 Readers' reviews:
  • 5.0 out of 5 stars - The Emperor's New Clothes
    By ZLF on May 9, 2017
    Format: Kindle Edition|Verified Purchase
    "Adults in the Room" is actually a much better title than the one I use for this review, for its acerbic irony if for no other reason. But the book does show, with great clarity, that the Emperor has indeed no clothes on.
    This is a book every European, or any person who cares about Europe, should read. It is part memoir, part expose, part impassioned plea for a democratic, humane, rational European Union.
    Iirrationality breeds irrationality. The "I know I'm wrong but don't you dare say so" attitude, so forcefully portrayed and so minutely detailed in this book, is one of the reasons why larger and larger numbers of Europeans vote against what they regard as a lying, rotten, despotic establishment.
    One other reviewer notes that Mr. Varoufakis doesn't see Mr. Schäuble as a monster, but rather as a tragic character. Be that as it may, the hubris displayed by Mr. Schäuble, Mr. Dijsselbloem and others was nothing short of monstrous.

  • 5.0 out of 5 stars - Brilliant
    ByAmazon Customer on May 30, 2017
    Format: Kindle Edition|Verified Purchase
    At last a truth teller.Yanis Varoufakis is a breath of fresh air revealing what goes on behind the wizards ragged curtain.

  • 5.0 out of 5 stars - Read this book - it is the real deal
    By Amazon Customer on June 16, 2017
    Format: Paperback|Verified Purchase
    Pulls back the political curtain & tells some unconventional truths that need to be read. Also, Stateside or in Europa, an excellent primer to the pushback that voted Brexit & Trump
Also came across a video of Varoufakis being interviewed about the book by a Swedish TV interviewer.
The interview is in English with Swedish subtitles. An excellent and unbiased interview (so, probably not something the BBC could have done - in fact, they'd probably prefer not to give this guy any airtime at all as it would run contrary to the pro-EU narrative/propaganda).



The book reminded me a little of the book The Rake's Progress: New Zealand Economy Since 1945 (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=The+Rake%27s+Progress+New+Zealand) (pub. Feb 1, 1984) by John Gould (an economics historian).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on July 01, 2017, 04:54 PM
Also came across a video of Varoufakis being interviewed about the book by a Swedish TV interviewer.
thanks for this :up:

No proponent of ... quantitative easing
this thread is no place for debate, (and all I know about this guy is this interview), but he appears to agree with it @ 3:23 of that video:
https://youtu.be/nGt82RFfg3U?t=3m23s
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on July 02, 2017, 12:37 AM
Eh? Sorry, I can't see how you inferred from that that he was being a proponent of QE.
Lost in translation, maybe?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on July 02, 2017, 01:17 PM
^ he approves the 'printing' of money in the US to reflate the economy after the crash of 2008. I thought that was quantitative easing, or am I misunderstanding? Also thinks the ECB is flawed because, he says, it cannot do that.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on July 02, 2017, 04:01 PM
It seemed to me he spoke of it derisively.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on July 02, 2017, 04:10 PM
It seemed to me he spoke of it derisively.

He calls it 'pragmatic', and bemoans the ECB's workaround for not being able to do the same.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on July 02, 2017, 06:17 PM
It seemed to me he spoke of it derisively.

He calls it 'pragmatic', and bemoans the ECB's workaround for not being able to do the same.

You're right. I didn't understand that word due to his accent. I suppose I may have projected my own opinion of the situation into my interpretation of his meaning.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?- The Adults In The Room" (Prof.Yanis Varoufakis)
Post by: IainB on July 02, 2017, 09:34 PM
@tomos: I listened to it all again, wondering whether I had missed something YV (Yanis Varoufakis) said about QE (Quantitative Easing). I think you may be unconsciously doing what @Deozaan says of himself, "I suppose I may have projected my own opinion of the situation into my interpretation of his meaning."
For example, YV's comments about the ECB statutory constraints against QE seemed to be matter-of-fact, objective and non-judgemental and neither in the book nor the video interview does he "bemoan the ECB's workaround for not being able to do the same" as the US QE.
However, if you want him to be perceived as speaking as a proponent of QE, then so be it.
Voilà! He's a proponent of QE!    (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/SORCERER.GIF)

It's kind of immaterial anyway, as the subject of the interview and this thread is/was his book, why he wrote it and the story it tells - the revelations and drama of what unfolded behind the scenes and behind closed doors, in exhausting 10-hour long deliberately un-minuted meetings, etc.
From what he writes/says, it seems clear that it was neither an open nor democratic process (in his view) - and that seems to have been a key factor. If the EU had been a democracy, then the Greek bailout débâcle wouldn't (probably couldn't) have gone the way it did, though in retrospect YV says he made two mistakes that could have been crucial contributors to allowing the bureaucrats to have their way and the resultant damage to be done to the Greek economy. He apparently deliberately wrote the book as an alarm/warning to other Western economies, as to what was inherently wrong/irrational in the case of the Greek bailout, and that it could happen again, elsewhere.

In the book, YV doesn't seem to necessarily approve or disapproves of anything, really, and that is reflected in his comments in the video interview. He is a rational economist who is at pains to show what happened, and why, and how it was a tragedy of bureaucratic irrationality (not "political"), where the apparently powerful people making the decisions were powerless - impotently caught up in the constraints of a stupid mess of traps of their own creation and unable to step out of those constraints. He does not point the finger at anyone/anything or any religio-political ideology as being the "bad" guy/thing. He speaks as a detached but not disinterested observer, and considers that everybody was simply trying to do their utmost best to arrive at a resolution to bailout Greece, within the constraints they found themselves in.

@03:30min. YV refers to the 2008 US QE as being "very pragmatic", and then underscores the ECB's inability to use QE (which it is prudently prohibited from doing, by statute) - so, by implication, they would have had to use the funding means that they did have at their disposal. That would (presumably) have been OK and do-able/feasible, had not the EU ministers apparently previously hamstrung themselves by prior bureaucratic commitments having little to do with the situation of the Greek economy per se, but which Greece was going to have to accept and pay for, against the Greek government's wishes.

@10:25min. YV refers to a feasible plan - how he "...started putting together a plan for how to deter the bank closures [and by implication the unnecessarily harsh/punitive economic effects of that on the citizens] and how to force the troika to accept the basics that were necessary for Greece's [economic] recovery.". He then goes on to say that the IMF at first privately agreed with his plan and later publicly campaigned for the implementation of a plan that was identical "...precisely to the last decimal point". (He said he gains no satisfaction from having been thus vindicated.)

What eventuated, however, was the implementation of the troika's economically illogical, unworkable and harsh "plan" that could not be substantiated or maintained in perpetuity, and they all knew that was so.

There is a priceless and amusing bit near the start of the interview, just after YV has mentioned the astonishingly arrogant and undemocratic attitude of the EU bureaucrats, who consider themselves to be the "adults in the room" (quoting Christine Lagarde and used as the title for the book), which "...reflects the contempt that the establishment has for the people..." - the mass of voters being children, "...who supposedly are the source of all legitimacy in a properly-functioning democracy." (Redolent of similar statements by one of the recent US presidential candidates, so it's apparently not just an EU thing but is indeed a reflection of elitist self-perception and contempt, as YV seems to view it.):

02:12M:

That's one of the things I lurve about the collapsing of the value-chain on the Internet. We don't need (don't want) to have to read or watch pre-digested and expurgated news releases or interviews, excreted like t#rds for our consumption, by the MSA intermediaries who used to have an oligopoly controlling what news we were allowed to know about and digest.
If that had been a BBC interview rather than what it was (an interview for Swedish TV), it would have probably been seriously edited and that little discussion gem would almost certainly have ended up on the cutting-room floor. We mustn't say/hear thaaat sort of thing! Oh, the horror! Why, the children might overhear and misconstrue its meaning!

The interview is definitely consistent with what he says in the book, and vice versa. For anyone who is interested in applied economics (rather than just theoretical economics) I would suggest that this book is pretty compelling and thought-provoking reading, and it is a true, current and objective case study, with potential and serious relevance to all modern western economies. A great learning opportunity.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on July 02, 2017, 09:49 PM
@tomos: I listened to it all again, wondering whether I had missed something YV (Yanis Varoufakis) said about QE (Quantitative Easing). I think you are probably correct where you say "I suppose I may have projected my own opinion of the situation into my interpretation of his meaning."

I said that. :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on July 02, 2017, 11:21 PM
@Deozaan: Many thanks for pointing that out. I've corrected it now. Apologies. I actually had it all correct but then my browser crashed whilst I was writing the comment, and in the recovery I saw that I had lost some of the several changes that I had made, and I hastily tried to redo them completely from memory. In my annoyed haste, I didn't notice that the first part of the comment was also still incomplete and would not make sense as posted.    :-[
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on July 04, 2017, 03:45 AM
@IainB -- we are largely in agreement,
you appear to have misunderstood my point though - I do not "want him to be perceived as speaking as a proponent of QE". FWIW I have no vested interests in seeing him in any particular way -- I have no reason to project here.

I was simply pointing out his seeing it as pragmatic when things get that bad. That was it.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on July 04, 2017, 09:44 AM
@IainB -- we are largely in agreement,
you appear to have misunderstood my point though - I do not "want him to be perceived as speaking as a proponent of QE". FWIW I have no vested interests in seeing him in any particular way -- I have no reason to project here.

I was simply pointing out his seeing it as pragmatic when things get that bad. That was it.

Look up a few Tomos.  He just misquoted- it was Deo.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on July 04, 2017, 01:07 PM
Look up a few Tomos.  He just misquoted- it was Deo.

Yes, that's true. But he then clarified his post to say that he thought tomos might also doing what I said I may have been doing. So it's not that different.

I think you may be unconsciously doing what @Deozaan says of himself, "I suppose I may have projected my own opinion of the situation into my interpretation of his meaning."
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on July 05, 2017, 02:56 AM
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The Long Walk is one of my favorite Steven King books.  I had it in an anthology called The Bachman Books (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachman_Books) (a lot of his stories written under the Richard Bachman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bachman) pseudonym), and to tell you what it's about would be to ruin the pathos of dawning horror.  But it is very good and recommended.  Also in that anthology are Roadwork  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadwork)(arguably- at least by me- Falling Down is based on that) and the Running Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Running_Man_(novel)) (nothing like the tepid Schwartzenegger flick)

Only problem with it is that King had no clue how fast a human can walk. Hundred of miles with speed over 4 miles per hour (6-9) is just not realistic. Not for a bunch of teenagers ... I can do almost 7 km in one hour (average speed of 7,5 km/h on a distance of 500 meters and 8,4 km/h on same distance on uphill road with small elevation) but after several hours I would surely drop below minimum speed ... And they walked that fast while eating, smoking and speaking with each other ... I feel he should do some more research on the matter ... Otherwise it is a good book, a little bit too long, but good ...


I didn't find it unrealistic.  Especially with the other factors considered that I don't really want to go into for concern at spoiling the novel.  But we can agree to disagree on that.

This would only be possible only if King meant professional walking like you see on competitions like WC or Olympics (funny leg, arm and hip movement) and not the ordinary one. In ordinary walking, at six miles/hour you are not walking anymore - you are running. But even if we assume that, walking at the speed of 10 miles/hour means that some of those teenagers (amateurs) for some time walked faster than the average speed of the current world record on 50 kilometers.

I was baffled because of another thing: none of the 100 contestants from that year (or any previous ones) tried the winning strategy. All of them walked pretty fast from the start. But that is not the right strategy.

Since this race is not about who walks the longest distance but rather who can walk over minimum speed for the longest time, then winning strategy becomes clear: walk with a speed just over 4 miles/hours and nothing more than that (and not talk to others like a teenage girls and don't smoke during the race because you need oxygen). That way you can save energy and outlast your rivals. Going any faster than that is just uneccesary consumption of energy you will need later on.

For example: Let assume that there is a teenager who know all this. He knows that he has let say at least 4 percent less stamina than the best walker. So if that guy can walk 330 miles and no more, than he would stop at 316,8 miles.

In ordinary walking competition where guy who will come the furthest wins, he would clearly lose. But this is not an ordinary competition.

So if a group around the winner from the book walks at a pace of 5 miles/hour while he intentionally travells at a pace of "only" 4,5 miles/hour, he "saves" 12 miles of walking per day, 24 miles in two days and so on. So in just two days the others would cover almost a distance of a marathon race more than he would. Thas is a lot of unecessary distance covered. When others will feel the first signs of being tired, he would be still fresh as a Daisy. When they would feel really tired, he would just be a little uncomfortable. 66 hours later, the last walker would reach 330 miles and would drop out of the race. At that exact time our winner would be at 297 miles, well within his dropping out point at 316,8 miles.

Even with his 4 percent less stamina, he would still win easily since his slower walking speed alowed him to cover 10 percent less distance than others in the same time period.

If the others would walk with even greater speed, his win would be even more convincing: at their 5,5 miles/hour versus his 4,5 miles/hour, he would cover 24 miles in one day less than others, 48 miles in two days and so on ... 60 hours later, the last remaining member of a group would reach 330 miles and drop out (since his average speed is a little bit higher he probably wouldn't even reach 330 miles due to faster energy drainage but nevermind that). Our guy would at that time cover 270 miles. So, he would win six hours earlier than before while covering 27 miles less distance that before.

And so on and so on ...

In reality, unless all contestants are braindead, someone would figure that out and would've won with this strategy. From next year on, all others would use it too.

Maybe writing about a race where all of contestants would try to be as close to minimum speed while trying to avoid being penalised because they would dip under it is not as exciting as writing King's version, but it looks like King never figured it out how you could win more easily than walking at the speed you feel comfortable with while crossing fingers that you will have more luck than your rivals ...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on July 05, 2017, 02:59 AM
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Interesting read, but could be better ...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on July 05, 2017, 08:20 AM
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The Long Walk is one of my favorite Steven King books.  I had it in an anthology called The Bachman Books (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachman_Books) (a lot of his stories written under the Richard Bachman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bachman) pseudonym), and to tell you what it's about would be to ruin the pathos of dawning horror.  But it is very good and recommended.  Also in that anthology are Roadwork  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadwork)(arguably- at least by me- Falling Down is based on that) and the Running Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Running_Man_(novel)) (nothing like the tepid Schwartzenegger flick)

Only problem with it is that King had no clue how fast a human can walk. Hundred of miles with speed over 4 miles per hour (6-9) is just not realistic. Not for a bunch of teenagers ... I can do almost 7 km in one hour (average speed of 7,5 km/h on a distance of 500 meters and 8,4 km/h on same distance on uphill road with small elevation) but after several hours I would surely drop below minimum speed ... And they walked that fast while eating, smoking and speaking with each other ... I feel he should do some more research on the matter ... Otherwise it is a good book, a little bit too long, but good ...


I didn't find it unrealistic.  Especially with the other factors considered that I don't really want to go into for concern at spoiling the novel.  But we can agree to disagree on that.

This would only be possible only if King meant professional walking like you see on competitions like WC or Olympics (funny leg, arm and hip movement) and not the ordinary one. In ordinary walking, at six miles/hour you are not walking anymore - you are running. But even if we assume that, walking at the speed of 10 miles/hour means that some of those teenagers (amateurs) for some time walked faster than the average speed of the current world record on 50 kilometers.

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I'd suggest that if you're going to continue to discuss, you do it in spoilers, as some have not read the book, and might want to.

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There is currently a walking challenge to do just this- to walk trails at a minimum of 4 mph, and the walker that walks the furthest wins. I walk 4 mph for my normal walk, and I am nowhere near running.  Also, the difference in speed wasn't a couple of miles per hour, but less than one mile per hour.

As far as your ideas, Stebbins did do exactly that.  And almost won.  But in the end, he lost.  No matter what you prepare for, the fact that there are other factors (weather, your body, etc) means that you can't prepare for all of them.  His final weakness was mental. 

And remember that the object wasn't to make it fair, nor even possible.  It was to make it entertaining, and get down to the winner in an entertaining manner.  And with the penalty for losing, that drives them.  And you're forgetting that they have multiple warnings, and they fall off per hour. 

You seem to be thinking that this was about the race.  It's about bread and circuses- akin to reality tv, but in a multi-day event, and that was made abundantly clear in the beginning of the short story.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: holt on July 08, 2017, 10:14 AM
A Girl Name Frankie
http://www.nationalsundowners.com/decades/frankie.php (http://www.nationalsundowners.com/decades/frankie.php)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on July 08, 2017, 10:42 AM
Deep Learning by Ian Goodfellow, Yoshua Bengio, Aaron Courville
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https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Learning-Adaptive-Computation-Machine/dp/0262035618

Read online here: http://www.deeplearningbook.org/

The current "definitive" book on Deep Learning in AI, which is all the rage these days -- though it's a bit erratic and uneven.

For the uninitiated, the term Deep Learning is a combination of a public relations marketing gimmick and rebrading of the field of Artificial Neural Networks, that came about when some very skilled engineers started squeezing out best-in-class performance from neural network models of a particular type warranting the term "Deep Learning", only to later realize that the specific "deep" architectures were not important to performance.  Rather than give up the fame and viral nature of the new term they just decided to re-brand the entire field of Artificial Neural Networks with the new catchy, and now quite misleading, term. Shrug.  The public relations effort and avarice is depressing, but the results and serious focus on maximizing performance are still impressive.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: robinsleica on July 10, 2017, 02:51 PM
I have always liked goosebump and I am re reading most of them. Enjoying my life . in my spare time! :)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Contro on August 15, 2017, 03:16 PM
I am taking very seriously english learning.
so, some months ago, I am trying to read in english.
My first experience :

Lolita by Nubokov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita) ( I dislike)
The second : The picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray) ( I dislike)
The road by Cormac McCarthy  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road)( a terrible experience for me , but i likes. Only I need to read in spanish first because of the trama, then in english to try to understand better)
The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brief_Wondrous_Life_of_Oscar_Wao). I am reading now. If I don't feel comfortable in english firs i read in spanish. Seems a very good book.

 :-*

P.d. I hope learn better english and be able to express adequately ....

 :-[
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Contro on August 16, 2017, 05:08 AM
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have you tried this ?
http://cognexus.org/id41.htm

a very interesting program to take decisions...
 :P
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on August 16, 2017, 09:14 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on August 23, 2017, 05:06 AM
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Contro on August 24, 2017, 04:46 PM
The Trajan Trilogy by Santiago Posteguillo

The Lost Legion

https://literaryrambles.wordpress.com/2016/04/11/posteguillos-lost-legion-3-trajan-trilogy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_Posteguillo

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: 4wd on September 03, 2017, 01:42 AM
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In February 1959, a group of nine experienced hikers in the Russian Ural Mountains died mysteriously on an elevation known as Dead Mountain. Eerie aspects of the incident—unexplained violent injuries, signs that they cut open and fled the tent without proper clothing or shoes, a strange final photograph taken by one of the hikers, and elevated levels of radiation found on some of their clothes—have led to decades of speculation over what really happened.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on September 03, 2017, 02:20 AM
That looks like a great book.  One of my favorite books of all time is "Into Thin Air (https://www.amazon.com/Into-Thin-Air-Personal-Disaster/dp/0385494785)", so it sounds like I might like Dead Mountain.

Into Thin Air:
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Contro on September 07, 2017, 04:15 PM
I am reading "The Information" by Martin Amis.
Is a book selected in one ot the reading clubs I belong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Information_(novel)

Usually the books selected are good and full of question to debate.
 :P

Note : Ejem, the reading club all books in spanish, but lately if the book is written in english I try in english.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on September 07, 2017, 06:11 PM
The Expanse Series by James S. A. Corey.  Currently on Cibola Burn.

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Pretty good sci-fi.  Got involved after seeing the second season and then the first season on SyFy.  Very good grasp of physics, even in the inventions and liberties taken.

But got interrupted by the new Mitch Rapp book, Enemy of the State.

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Kyle Mills seemed to reach his stride in the last book, so I've been looking forward to this more than the American Assassin movie.  That could be good- but I've already seen changes, so bracing myself for it not to be.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Contro on September 28, 2017, 03:28 PM
I have finished Fear and Trembling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_and_Trembling_(novel))

Is more easy to read than The Information by Martin Amis.

Is about mobbing in the work.
 ;D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: SteveT8 on September 29, 2017, 05:25 AM
just finished The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on September 29, 2017, 07:29 AM
https://www.amazon.com/GENIUS-THEODORE-DREISER-ebook/dp/B006H5WX98/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506688114&sr=8-1&keywords=the+genius+theodore+dreiser


The Genius by Theodore Dreiser.  Not an adrenalin read but insight into the maturation of an artist.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on October 12, 2017, 03:54 PM
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Post by: panzer on October 12, 2017, 03:58 PM
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Post by: wraith808 on October 12, 2017, 04:23 PM
Sins of Empire by Brian McClellan.  Just as good as the first series, IMO.

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Post by: panzer on October 26, 2017, 06:14 AM
Dumped:

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: erikts on November 02, 2017, 12:21 AM
Seveneves by Neal Stephenson (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22816087-seveneves)
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: TaoPhoenix on November 19, 2017, 10:06 PM
Yum books!
Bumping this, so I might see it better and post to it soon!
I've been reading like a fiend this year...

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Attronarch on November 20, 2017, 02:25 AM
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Riveting.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on December 22, 2017, 12:27 AM
READ THIS BOOK! I found it a really interesting, educational and absorbing book.
Trigger warning!: This is not about a political statement, though one might want to think that it is.     :o

Spoiler
Flat Earth News:

An Award-Winning Reporter Exposes Falsehood, Distortion and Propaganda in the Global Media (https://www.amazon.com/Flat-Earth-News-Award-Winning-Distortion/dp/0099512688/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1513916742&sr=8-1&keywords=Book+Flat+Earth+News) by Nick Davies  (Author)
This is the paperback – February 2, 2009 - but I had the Kindle edition.

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After years of working as a respected journalist, Nick Davies broke the unwritten rule of the media by investigating the practices of his fellow colleagues. In this eye-opening exposé, Davies uncovers an industry awash in corruption and bias. His findings include the story of a prestigious Sunday newspaper that allowed the CIA to plant fiction in its columns; the newsroom that routinely rejects stories about black people; the respected paper that hired a professional fraudster to set up a front company to entrap senior political figures; as well as a number of newspapers that pay cash bribes to bent detectives. His research also exposes a range of national stories that were in fact pseudo events manufactured by the public relations industry and global news stories that were fiction generated by a machinery of international propaganda. The degree to which the media industry has affected government policy and perverted popular belief is also addressed. Gripping and thought-provoking, this is an insider’s look at one of the world’s most tainted professions.
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This reader review (below) says much of what I thought, so it saves me the trouble, though, as an exiled Pom I felt quite at home with what the reviewer called the book's "parochial view" (i.e., being UK-oriented).
Great investigation into how news is made
Reader: Grue (https://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AEEP25RY63HQWCO52EXJ5C3PIUIQ/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_gw_tr?ie=UTF8)
December 2, 2012
Format: Paperback|Verified Purchase
If you're like me, you know that the news is "biased", but you haven't really thought much about specially which forces shape the news and how. After reading this book you will have a much better idea of how news organizations function and what they do and don't do. The main parts of the book are:

1. Economics of newspapers - why pressure to publish is often not conducive to truth
2. News ecosystem - describing the roles of journalists, newspapers, and suppliers such as the Associated Press
3. Outsiders - how companies, lobbyists, and politicians can manipulate the media by exploiting (1) and (2)
4. Details about English newspapers - mostly about how some newspapers in England do illegal stuff

Not being British, I didn't care much about section (4), even though the author is arguably most famous for precipitating the whole Murdoch/Daily Mail scandal. However, the other three sections are excellent and I know of no better book covering similar material. The author clearly has an insider's point of view, not an academic's, but despite some heuristic thinking and proof-by-example, the reader will be forced to admit that there is no reason to believe that the output of the current news system is even roughly true. In short, I was vaguely skeptical before; now I look at most news as being little more than entertaining fiction.

In my opinion the main two faults of the book are that
1) it is parochial and only describes British newspapers in any detail
2) it offers very little constructive guidance on how people _should_ stay informed.

Still, a very thought provoking book. Anyone who reads or watches news (i.e. basically everyone) should read this book or one on the same topics.
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The book (published in 2009)  encouraged me to think and research around the subject, and my research looked around initially at current affairs, and then later I looked for patterns in history (always a good teacher). I was part-way through the book when I pasted together the amusing cartoon (below) and posted it in the silly humour thread. However, having now finished the book and done some more research, I suspect I didn't make the cartoon "strong" enough.

5 steps in The evolution of The Three Wise Monkeys
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The book's methodical analysis doesn't really say much different to the cartoon ("a picture's worth a thousand words"), except it removes the element of doubt about how the various forces are behind and driving the fake news, and the attentive reader - having read the book - would probably thus be better-placed to "think for oneself" when the selfsame purveyors of fake news try to tell him/her how and what to correctly think about fake news, because the methods that they employ are now become transparently obvious (from the book), if they weren't already. Fake news and propaganda are essentially one and the same thing. The book could relieve one's ignorance to some extent, and could reduce one's credulousness and susceptibility to being manipulated by the media and politicians, but it also helps to retain a natural healthy skepticism - and this is certainly what history shows, for example:

...So the gatekeepers of knowledge and culture in 1530, on losing their gatekeeper position over the narrative, didn’t counter with higher-quality reporting, but instead attacked the technology enabling competition, calling it out as spreading misinformation and irresponsible fake reports. Does any of this seem… familiar?

The law was a complete fiasco. Once people had learned to read competing reporting, there was no unlearning it. The law was repealed shortly thereafter. England went another route to prevent the success of the printing press by establishing a censorship regime with printing monopolies, known as copyright, but that’s a story for another day.

As a final touch, let’s consider the words of Paul Graham, in his excellent essay “what you can’t say”: “No one gets in trouble for saying that 2 + 2 is 5, or that people in Pittsburgh are ten feet tall. Such obviously false statements might be treated as jokes, or at worst as evidence of insanity, but they are not likely to make anyone mad. The statements that make people mad are the ones they worry might be believed. I suspect the statements that make people maddest are those they worry might be true. […] If Galileo had said that people in Padua were ten feet tall, he would have been regarded as a harmless eccentric. Saying the earth orbited the sun was another matter. The church knew this would set people thinking.”

Privacy and narrative remain your own responsibility.
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The clip below is from a query to the Google Books engram viewer. The search was input as 1800 to 2017, but apparently the corpus only goes up to 2008 at present. Interesting that the previous biggest peak(s) in the past were around the war years - probably indicative of the moot cause of the exponential rise we have seen in modern times {i.e., it's propaganda).
Search string: <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=fake+news&year_start=1800&year_end=2017&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cfake%20news%3B%2Cc0>

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: kyrathaba on December 27, 2017, 10:10 AM
The Dreaming Void
The Fall of Reach
Halo: The Flood
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: c.gingerich on December 27, 2017, 12:39 PM
The Martian
Harry Potter Series
Title: The Time Axis
Post by: MilesAhead on April 24, 2018, 04:37 PM
The Time Axis (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WDC8EO2/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1)

An entertaining short SciFi novel.  One nice thing about the way it is written is that rather than delving into microscopic techno detail the descriptions of future tech are sufficiently vague that the plot should not seem dated.  A hundred years from now it should still be a good read.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Target on May 03, 2018, 05:41 PM
just finished 'Sea of Rust' by C. Robert Cargill.

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It's a somewhat different take on a post apocalyptic world where our robot overlords have risen up

a very enjoyable read...

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on May 27, 2018, 12:13 PM
Welcome, gorens.

Your post reminded me to post.

I have recently been reading a ton of "relationship" books lately.. At least a half dozen of them.  These are self-help type books with different theories of, and advice about, relationships with your significant other.

Growing up I never gave much thought to such things, and never spent significant time "working" on having a relationship.  I just figured it would all come naturally.  And I am mostly a loner, and happy that way, so I have never been overly concerned with making a relationship "last".  Now almost 50 years old I find myself shocked that these kinds of relationship and self-help subjects aren't taught in school.  Some really useful life lessons and advice...

As to why I've been reading so much about making a relationship work lately.. Well that will have to wait for another day and another post.  But in the next few days I will try to post some mini-reviews about the books I have been reading.  I encourage everyone, whether currently in a relationship or not, to read some books on making a relationship work -- the earlier in your life the better.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on May 27, 2018, 02:39 PM
Welcome, gorens.

Your post reminded me to post.

I have recently been reading a ton of "relationship" books lately.. At least a half dozen of them.  These are self-help type books with different theories of, and advice about, relationships with your significant other.

Growing up I never gave much thought to such things, and never spent significant time "working" on having a relationship.  I just figured it would all come naturally.  And I am mostly a loner, and happy that way, so I have never been overly concerned with making a relationship "last".  Now almost 50 years old I find myself shocked that these kinds of relationship and self-help subjects aren't taught in school.  Some really useful life lessons and advice...

As to why I've been reading so much about making a relationship work lately.. Well that will have to wait for another day and another post.  But in the next few days I will try to post some mini-reviews about the books I have been reading.  I encourage everyone, whether currently in a relationship or not, to read some books on making a relationship work -- the earlier in your life the better.


Or go to a therapist or counselor.  It's amazing what you can find out just from having a safe space to talk about such things.  I wish I'd figured that out earlier.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on May 27, 2018, 10:56 PM
Goodreads has a challenge this year that I'm going to try to complete: You tell how many books you are going to read this year, and aim to do so.  I'm aiming for 12.  I think I could do more, but decided to hold back.  I'm on my fourth one in the two months since I joined, so maybe I sandbagged a bit.

Currently, I'm reading a series called the World of Ruin.  I thought I'd posted about the first that I read a bit ago:

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Shadow of the Winter King

I'd really liked it, but not kept up with it- because the next two came out, and I'm on the third one.

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Shield of the Summer PrinceMask of the Blood Queen

I also read the finale to another series that I'd been reading - the Demon Cycle

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Core

They're both fantasy series, but both have a definite twist on what a fantasy novel is.  I'd definitely recommend either.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Dormouse on May 28, 2018, 08:34 AM
I've never contributed to this thread; and feel that  I probably should have done if I'm doing a thread on writers' tools.

So I'll add some post on books I've read over the last 6 months or so.

This is a really good (real life) story about the development of a font. A bit of a who dun it. Higfhly recommended, especially if you have some interest in font design. I didn't know I had, so discovered quite a lot.

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And coincidentally fonts played quite a big part in another book I read recently. Not as good, but light and quite charming. I found it a bit tedious in the stretches when it was describing tech stuff and companies that I already knew; and it wasn't always correct. There seem to be follow ups, but I feel that what I have read is complete on its own.

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And while I'm on the subject of libraries, I enjoyed the start to this fantasy/steampunk series (I'm saving the others for later). Easy reading, nothing profound.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on May 28, 2018, 11:35 AM
This is a really good (real life) story about the development of a font. A bit of a who dun it. Higfhly recommended, especially if you have some interest in font design. I didn't know I had, so discovered quite a lot.

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This (Marcel's Letters) sounds like my cup of tea, thanks!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Dormouse on May 29, 2018, 09:30 AM
This (Marcel's Letters) sounds like my cup of tea, thanks!
And seems to be on offer today!
tbh I bought it on an offer myself, a while ago.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on June 01, 2018, 04:16 PM
Ok here is a summary of some of the best (partner/marriage) relationship books I have been reading lately:



If I had to pick only one general best one, it would be "The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work" by John Gottman (https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Principles-Making-Marriage-Work/dp/0553447718).  This is a book by someone who has studied relationships academically, and he has written many books on the subject.  His observations and advice are not groundbreaking, but they are useful, and have been well developed and honed.  His main hook is the idea of "bids" -- small mundane interactions where one person is making a bid for their partner's attention -- and the reactions to such bids, and how improving how you react to such bids can yield large improvements.

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And if you are interested in relationships that extend beyond your partner -- to relatives and even work, he applies the same concepts in another book that also covers partner relationships but others as well, called "The Relationship Cure" (https://www.amazon.com/Relationship-Cure-Strengthening-Marriage-Friendships-ebook/dp/B06WD2QB3G/).  There's a lot of overlap so I wouldn't recommend you get both.

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One of the major insights I got in reading these books is how large a role the differences between introverts and extroverts can play in a relationships.. I found the following book very helpful, and would highly recommend it to anyone in a relationship where one person is an introvert and the other is an extrovert:  "The Introvert and Extrovert In Love by Marti Laney  and Michael Laney (https://www.amazon.com/Introvert-Extrovert-Love-Opposites-Attract/dp/1572244860)".  I think it will help each person see their partner in a new more positive light.

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As one might predict, some relationship self-help books seem to sometimes be directed at an audience of people who might be said to have unusually difficult times in relationships, or who have major issues that they feel they need to overcome.  While I don't find myself in this category, one interesting book for those who think that their are childhood issues getting in the way of them having healthy relationships was "Getting the Love You Want: A Guide for Couples by Harville Hendrix" (https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Love-You-Want-Anniversary/dp/0805087001). There is plenty of advice and insights that would apply to all relationships, but there is also quite a bit of a focus on repairing childhood issues that may have been caused by parents.  I'm not sure I agree with some of his theories but there were some thought provoking ideas.

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If you have an appreciation for buddhist/zen approaches, as I do, another book that I quite liked was "How to Be an Adult in Relationships: The Five Keys to Mindful Loving by David Richo" (https://www.amazon.com/How-Be-Adult-Relationships-Mindful/dp/1570628122).  I would say, like the Hendrix book above, this one has more of a focus on people who may have deeper issues to resolve, but it is unique in the books I've read in combining practical advice and insight, with a constant thread of being mindful (aware of, non-judgemental, acknowledging but not struggling against) about the world around you and your fears and issues.

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If you're more interested in the sexual/romantic side of relationship building and relationship struggles, a book I found quite thought provoking was "Mating in Captivity: Unlocking Erotic Intelligence by Esther Perel" (https://www.amazon.com/Mating-Captivity-Unlocking-Erotic-Intelligence/dp/0060753641).  Esther Perel is a couple's therapist. This is a slightly unconventional book with a distinct theory and approach.  I guess the best shorthand explanation for the author's theory is that couples need to pro-actively create a kind of healthy tension in their sexual relationship, being careful not to let loving/comforting/nurturing attitudes interfere with it.  So she stresses the importance of independence,which isn't too controversial, but also suggests value in not taking for granted that your partner will always be around and will never leave you.  There is also some insightful discussion about cultural effects on sexual taboos, and why people have certain sexual preferences and the healthiness of play and fantasy.

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Another book that I find quite illuminating was recommended to me by a donationcoder member who shall remain anonymous: "Love and Limerence: The Experience of Being in Love by Dorothy Tennov" (https://www.amazon.com/Love-Limerence-Experience-Being/dp/0812862864).  This is a very narrowly focused book by an academic, on a particularly intense phenomena of falling madly in love, that seems to only effect a minority of the population.  The author describes the emotional state of limerance as a very intense desire for someone (often someone who the subject does not know well), with intrusive thoughts and preoccupation, that can generate a richly satisfying and addictive kind of attachment.  And the attachment and feeling of love and need is typically heightened by the unavailability of the object of one's affections.  I'm probably not doing it justice here, but the bottom line is that if these kinds of feelings resonate with you and describe the kinds of experiences you have had falling madly in love with someone you barely know, you may find this book a revelation and incredibly helpful.  It may also help you put things in perspective and snap out of a silly fixation on someone who, by their very nature, is not going to be good for you.

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Here's an early good book I read that I forgot to add to my initial write up.  "The 5 Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lasts (https://www.amazon.com/Love-Languages-Secret-that-Lasts/dp/080241270X)" by Gary Chapman.  This one seems to have really hit home with people and has spun off a few additional related books.  The take home theory of this book is that different people (and very often men and women) may have different ways that they need to hear that they are loved. Different things that affect them most strongly.  For some people it's touch, for some people it's shared activities, etc.  And that people tend to think that the way *they* want to have love expressed to them is *not* the same as the way their partner needs to hear it.  So that it's important to figure out how your partner needs to feel loved in ways that are different from the way you need to.  Pretty cool.

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Some final closing thoughts on relationship books is that just the act of reading and discussing these with your significant other seems like it is such a good healthy thing, and taking an active interest in improving your relationship skills seems like something we could all benefit from -- it's something I wish I had been encouraged to examine earlier in my life.

In general, all of these books are way too bloated with the same information repeated over and over again...  All of them could have half of their pages removed without losing anything.  And I think you could probably get 90% of the benefits by reading any random relationship book -- the overlap in the ideas is substantial..  So the bottom like is just: Care enough about your relationships to read about the subject!  Even for people who have a great relationship, I think seeing something written down that confirms things you already know and do will be useful.



Anyone else have relationship book recommendations?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on June 02, 2018, 02:38 AM
@mouser:
I tend to be careful about giving advice, on the basis that I could well be wrong in what I say.
Having studied human and animal psychology to some extent, I would suggest that one probably needs to be especially careful about dishing out or "recommending" personal marital/relationship advice, whether it is from first-hand experience, or from secondhand experience via other peoples' quoted experiences, or from the thoughts of "professional" or "expert" authors on the subject.

Where you say:
...This is a book by someone who has studied relationships academically, and he has written many books on the subject. ...
- I would respectfully suggest that this could implicitly seem to be:

Having said that, I have just once given some indirect "relationship advice" to someone - a woman who was the IT Manager and my boss (sponsor) on a consulting assignment that I was independently contracted for in 2004. I'll call her "Anne" (not her real name).
Anne had recently married, but frequently had to work late - often on the critical projects I was engaged upon, and she described how she found that her husband - who worked from home as a self-employed architect) disliked this and when she got home they would keep getting into an argument about it that always spiralled down into an inconclusive/unresolved stasis. It seemed to be repetitive, where the same things/points were said/put by each person.

I told Anne that, quite by coincidence, I had a book with me that I kept to read in the lunchbreaks - it was a psychology textbook written by a man and wife team (2 academics and psychologists) who had expanded in the book the theoretical boundaries of what is called TA ("Transactional Analysis") - a psychoanalytic theory and method of therapy. I was reading it simply out of interest and to get up to speed with the current methodology, having studied and been very interested in the earlier development of TA (sort of "I'm OK, You're OK").

I explained to Anne that it is/was so relevant and useful that I even taught TA theory to my wife and children, so that they could better understand how we as a family might interrelate, and also to better understand relationships with others, and why people (oneself included) might tend to behave/do/say under certain circumstances, depending on their ego-states (basically, Parent, Adult, Child). We each can speak from these ego states, and in our interrelationships we will tend to flicker between them. We are usually unaware that this is happening, but becoming aware can help us to balance our responses in the Adult state - if we want. If our ego is stuck in another state though, it will literally protect itself and resist such self-adjustment. The therapist's task is to help his/her client on the journey to realise/come back to the Adult state, and to take responsibility for consistently maintaining that behaviour pattern. Not necessarily an easy task!

She was an intelligent woman, so I thought she could understand and I told her that what she had described as her repetitive dialogue with her husband was described in some detail in the textbook - it was a classic case of what was/is called "running/acting a script". Simply put, the thing would basically tend to repeat indefinitely until either:

She asked if she could borrow the textbook. I gladly handed it over. Two weeks later she gave it back to me and thanked me profusely. The book had enabled them to understand what they were doing to themselves, and why, and they had intelligently modified their behaviours to Adult ego state, and held them there. This had enabled them to collaboratively work to resolving their real/root causal relationship problems, which they had not previously even been able to perceive as problems.

So that seemed to be a good result, though it probably did some psychotherapist out of their potential fees. But that is really what most therapists do - they help the client to take responsibility for seeing what is wrong, for fixing themselves up, and give them a method to do it. Most people need a therapist for that, but if one is not too ego-bound, one can do it oneself - always given the relevant knowledge.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on June 02, 2018, 03:31 AM
it was a psychology textbook written by a man and wife team (2 academics and psychologists) who had expanded in the book the theoretical boundaries of what is called TA ("Transactional Analysis") - a psychoanalytic theory and method of therapy. I was reading it simply out of interest and to get up to speed with the current methodology, having studied and been very interested in the earlier development of TA (sort of "I'm OK, You're OK").
You dont name the book?
Interesting post -- well, the second part. First part is a worthwhile warning, especially for this type of topic, but is overstated which leaves the danger that people simply stop reading and miss the second part (I nearly did).
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on June 02, 2018, 03:42 AM
I dont have any recommendations re relationship books myself. Was interesting to read your recommendations mouser :up:

In general, all of these books are way too bloated with the same information repeated over and over again...  All of them could have half of their pages removed without losing anything.
I'm reminded of two 'self-help' books from years ago:
both by the same author (Susan Jeffers). I found the first one helpful and bought the second. Both books were extremely repetitive in content. Both books are perfectly summarised in their titles. So you just need to remember the title and apply the advice at the appropriate moment, and you're sorted...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 02, 2018, 10:27 AM
IainB, I would respectfully suggest that (in my opinion) your pointing out of potential logical fallacies in mouser's statement is misplaced.

(1) Dr. Gottman has spent decades academically studying (i.e. scientifically researching) relationships, so it does follow that what he has to say about them is worth hearing. Therefore it's not a non-sequitur.
(2) Dr. Gottman has spent decades studying relationships, so he actually is the country's foremost expert on relationships and what makes them successful or not. Appealing to authority is not necessarily a logical fallacy, especially when you're talking about their area of expertise.
(3) mouser's "proof" of the validity of the content of the book he recommended is not based merely on his opinion. It's based on the fact that Dr. Gottman has spent decades studying relationships and is the foremost expert on them. Therefore it's not forwarding an opinion in ignorance.





I also recommend Dr. Gottman's book (The 7 Principles). :Thmbsup:

Another book that may be helpful in learning how to communicate and understand each other is The 5 Love Languages by Gary D. Chapman.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on June 02, 2018, 10:55 AM
Let me elaborate on why I thought it was useful to point out that he "studied relationships academically". It probably would have been more helpful if I said this originally.

These relationship/self-help books tend to be written by 3 different kinds of people:
1) People who are presenting theories and advice primarily based on their PERSONAL LIVED EXPERIENCES.
2) Therapists who have been trained in psychology or similar fields, and have treated clients, and have had experience with a few dozen clients, etc.
3) Academics who have conducted large scale studies of hundreds of people and published peer reviewed papers.

Now I do *not* claim that one type of author is better than another.  However, the kinds of advice and insights presented by these different kinds of authors -- and more significantly the evidentiary basis for them -- seem to be qualitatively different.  When Gottman suggests strategies or presents observations, they are presented in terms of "when we studied the couples reactions, over large numbers of couples, here is what we found common in the relationships that worked.."  Whereas an author who is writing from personal experience does not have access to such things, and their presentations are much more personal and anecdotal.

This can be important because sometimes the lived-experience authors tend to over-generalize and their observations and advice can sometimes be inapplicable to your circumstance or personality.  The academic authors can be more convincing in their observations and advice - but as you might expect when talking about patterns that apply to large populations, they may miss the opportunity to address more personality-specific issues.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Dormouse on June 02, 2018, 02:56 PM
Last week I finished The Great Siege of Malta by Bruce Ware Allen. It was a surprisingly exciting account for a history book with a substantial proportion of its pages with footnotes and references. Many references drawn from contemporary eye witness accounts.

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I read it because it was a pivotal (long) moment in the history of Europe at the transition between the mediaeval and modern ages (1565), and because I'd recently become aware of how little I knew of the detail of Italian history in the post-Roman and mediaeval periods. This was drawn to my attention when I read Tim Powers' The Drawing of the Dark, which I read a few months ago. This brilliant fantasy was based on the Siege of Vienna in 1529 - another successful resistance to an Ottoman attack. Tim Powers was known for using contemporaneous evidence and recorded history to provide a basis for his fantasy fiction. I was surprised that it had not been extended into a series (everything had been set up for it), but had not realised that it had been first published in 1979 before series were the accepted way for authors to make money.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Dormouse on June 03, 2018, 03:54 AM
Dr. Gottman has spent decades studying relationships and is the foremost expert on them.
Hesitate to weigh in here, but I think it is an exaggeration to call John Gottman the foremost expert on relationships. Or an academic. He was a clinical academic, which is quite a different thing. His research and statistical approaches were somewhat problematic, although that isn't unusual in clinically oriented research. If you want an academic view, you could try one of the books by Steve Duck (though his interests have widened in recent years).

Steve has written or edited 60 books on relationships and other matters and was the founder and, for the first 15 years, the Editor of the Journal of Social and Personal Relationships. His book Meaningful Relationships: Talking, Sense, and Relating won the G. R. Miller Book Award from the Interpersonal Communication Division of the National Communication Association. Steve co-founded a series of international conferences on personal relationships. - Excerpt from Amazon

Disclosure - I knew him personally some years ago (acquaintance rather than friend).
PS I'm not recommending the books, (a) because I probably haven't read the ones you'd consider and (b) because a book by a pure academic is rarely what people are looking for when they are looking for books on relationships.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on June 03, 2018, 05:53 AM
@tomos:
1. Name of the textbook: Sorry, but I don't recall it. It wasn't mine. I had borrowed it from someone or a local library. I did a quick duckgo search just now and came up with a l-o-n-g list of likely books on the subject of TA. One that looked similar to what I recalled was: Ta Today: A New Introduction to Transactional Analysis. (Second Edition) Ian Stewart, Vann Joines
The reviews for that on Amazon mention the breakdown of the PAC ego states into subgroups (e.g., Adapted Child) - and that (the subgroups) was a new thing to me at the time and was one of the reasons I was reading the book (to learn from it). I expect there are lots of books on TA, but this one looked like it could be useful. The thing to focus on would probably be not so much the title as the content - i.e., coverage and understanding of the modern, newer theoretical aspects of TA and how they might be applied in practice (psychotherapy).

2. Qualities of my post: The first part may have been overstated in its suggestions, as you say, but I don't know. I just try my best and was in a bit of a hurry as I was about to go out to a farmers' market.
The second part was something of an afterthought when I realised that I had effectively referred someone to a book on the subject, but it was done inadvertently. At the time, it struck me as quite an extraordinary coincidence that Anne was describing her real-life script-acting, almost exactly as it was described theoretically in the book that I had been reading.

As for recommending such a book to someone, well, I'm not so sure.
These sorts of books can be quite challenging to the ego as they generally indicate (to be of any use for self-help) the need for a more open mind and a willingness to change oneself and, as J.K. Galbraith so adroitly put it:
“Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everybody gets busy on the proof.”
That is, recommending therapy - rather than a book - might be more likely to produce a positive/beneficial result for the individual concerned. Egos can be both terrible and pretty fragile things.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rgdot on June 03, 2018, 10:45 AM
I guess a whole other topic as far as DC goes  :tellme:

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on June 03, 2018, 12:14 PM
That is, recommending therapy - rather than a book - might be more likely to produce a positive/beneficial result for the individual concerned.

If my statement above doesn't indicate this well enough, let it be known that I agree with that statement.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 03, 2018, 03:53 PM
[...] I read Tim Powers' The Drawing of the Dark, which I read a few months ago. This brilliant fantasy [...]
I hope you are also aware of Tim Powers' The Anubis Gatesw.  I only read it once, long ago, but it seemed to me a fantasy masterpiece.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 03, 2018, 04:04 PM
If anyone remembers mentions of Jonathan Stroud (http://www.jonathanstroud.com/)'s Bartimaeus series and Heroes of the Valley, much earlier in this thread, and wondered what he's been doing since, this is it:
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A quintet of YA horror-with-a-touch-of-humour novels, plus a shorter ebook (I've not read that last).  Great entertainment.  Here's the blurb for the first in the series, taken directly from Jonathan's Stroud's web site:
The Screaming Staircase

When the dead come back to haunt the living, Lockwood & Co. step in . . .

For more than fifty years, the country has been affected by a horrifying epidemic of ghosts. A number of Psychic Investigations Agencies have sprung up to destroy the dangerous apparitions.

Lucy Carlyle, a talented young agent, arrives in London hoping for a notable career. Instead she finds herself joining the smallest, most ramshackle agency in the city, run by the charismatic Anthony Lockwood. When one of their cases goes horribly wrong, Lockwood & Co. have one last chance of redemption. Unfortunately this involves spending the night in one of the most haunted houses in England, and trying to escape alive.

Set in a city stalked by spectres, The Screaming Staircase is the first in a chilling new series full of suspense, humour and truly terrifying ghosts. Your nights will never be the same again.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 03, 2018, 04:43 PM
Another YA SF (well, fantasy in an SF wrapper, perhaps); the concluding volume of the trilogy - Railhead, Black Light Express, and now Station Zero. More great entertainment. Raises questions about the wisdom of committing too much to benevolent AIs, and at what point sentient machines are equivalent to humans, doing so in a lighter and more enjoyable manner than some 'adult' SF.
Philip Reeve's web site (http://www.philip-reeve.com/) (out of date)
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on June 05, 2018, 04:18 PM
Edited my post to add another relationship book.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on June 05, 2018, 06:04 PM
Read(ing) two anthologies.

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Exalted: Tales from the Age of Sorrows (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25176778-exalted)

Very disappointing.  As an anthology based on an RPG, I didn't expect much.  But it didn't even deliver to that level.

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Ki-Khanga: The Anthology (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17259192-ki-khanga)

My second time attempting to get through this - the formatting of the e-book and editing are atrocious.  But once I got past that, the stories themselves were pretty good.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Dormouse on June 06, 2018, 06:23 AM
I hope you are also aware of Tim Powers' The Anubis Gatesw.  I only read it once, long ago, but it seemed to me a fantasy masterpiece.
I became aware of it when I checked out what else he'd written. Haven't read it yet, but intend to. Glad to see a recommendation.

My method for selecting books is partly random. I acquire books (paper and ebooks) when they seem very good value (usual), or I want to read them NOW (less usual), and I use access to other people's books whenever I can. If I'm staying at a B&B with books, I will try to read one of them (preferably finishing before I leave) and will browse books at coffee shops and pubs that have them.

At home, I choose what I want from the shelves or use a random number generator to select a book from our shared ebook library. If it lands on a series, I choose the earliest book I haven't read. If I don't feel like it, I'll look at the list again by author or recency, and then reroll. I prefer to switch genres and subjects to avoid staleness. I also like trying lots of stuff I would never have deliberately chosen. And varying quality levels, and styles.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Dormouse on June 10, 2018, 06:14 AM
Yesterday I read Greylady (Clan Wars 1) by Peter Morwood; first published 1993. The start of a prequel series to the Horse Lords. The second (Widowmaker) was published but the mooted third in the series never appeared and neither did projected extensions to his Horse Lords series. Some joint writing with his wife, but his own writing seems to have come to a stop around 20 years ago. Apparently now 'consults on modern militaria and medieval European weapons'. He and his wife, Diane Duane, appeared at the Discworld Convention in Warwick on 22nd July last year and will be back again this year.

Came up on my random number generator, and I thought I'd check Goodreads before diving in. 3.89 - not good. None of his individual books were as high as 4 - not at all good. Worth bothering? I thought about it, but decided to check it out. And actually it was good. Rich sonorous prose. Somewhat derivative setting, but very little isn't. Too slow for modern pace junkies, but they would surely stop after a few pages, realising it wasn't for them. So looked to be worth a higher rating (OK, not by me - but I'd probably rate 1-2 points lower than the average rater). Not very, very good. Deus ex machina shows, hurrying some transitions. No tension build, and no sense  of impending resolution either; can be OK, but not usually in this genre. All tweakable. And, I think, still is. Up to 90%.

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But then a massive flaw. Six missing months. And it simply jumps into the new present. Fine in some books, but this style was about reflection and internal development as well as external. Those six months may have had no big external events, but personal events were moving apace.
And at the very end the protagonist does something he simply wouldn't have done.

Why? The short answer is rank bad editing. The book shouldn't have gone out like this. The author is probably culpable too.
Options:-
Poor editing in any event. Either poor executive decisions about how the book should be, or a failure to direct or persuade the author to address the issues. No idea if he how much editing he did himself or how much input there was from his wife.
Not read any of his other books, so it is hard to know whether they have similar issues - I'm pretty sure the writing quality would be similar.

I'd still recommend it; always a good sign if a book is finished in a day.
Title: A book I am reading: The Fifth Discipline: The Art/Practice of The Learning Org.
Post by: IainB on June 10, 2018, 11:26 AM
The Fifth Discipline: The Art & Practice of The Learning Organisation - 2nd Ed, (2006) Pub. Random House Business Books. This ed. revised and updated with 100 new pages since the earlier (1st.) Ed. (1992).
My rating:  :Thmbsup:  :Thmbsup:  :Thmbsup:  :Thmbsup:  :Thmbsup:

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Not sure whether it is the same publisher (it has a slightly different cover), but the Amazon page for this book is here (https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Discipline-Practice-Learning-Organization/dp/0385517254). <https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Discipline-Practice-Learning-Organization/dp/0385517254 (https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Discipline-Practice-Learning-Organization/dp/0385517254)>
There is an E-book version and an Amazon audible version (featuring the author as narrator) - the latter is here (https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Discipline-Practice-Learning-Organization/dp/B0000640E9). <https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Discipline-Practice-Learning-Organization/dp/B0000640E9 (https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Discipline-Practice-Learning-Organization/dp/B0000640E9)>

The covering blurb for the book says:
Completely Updated and Revised
This revised edition of Peter Senge’s bestselling classic, The Fifth Discipline, is based on fifteen years of experience in putting the book’s ideas into practice. As Senge makes clear, in the long run the only sustainable competitive advantage is your organization’s ability to learn faster than the competition. The leadership stories in the book demonstrate the many ways that the core ideas in The Fifth Discipline, many of which seemed radical when first published in 1990, have become deeply integrated into people’s ways of seeing the world and their managerial practices.

In The Fifth Discipline, Senge describes how companies can rid themselves of the learning “disabilities” that threaten their productivity and success by adopting the strategies of learning organizations—ones in which new and expansive patterns of thinking are nurtured, collective aspiration is set free, and people are continually learning how to create results they truly desire.

The updated and revised Currency edition of this business classic contains over one hundred pages of new material based on interviews with dozens of practitioners at companies like BP, Unilever, Intel, Ford, HP, Saudi Aramco, and organizations like Roca, Oxfam, and The World Bank. It features a new Foreword about the success Peter Senge has achieved with learning organizations since the book’s inception, as well as new chapters on Impetus (getting started), Strategies, Leaders’ New Work, Systems Citizens, and Frontiers for the Future.

Mastering the disciplines Senge outlines in the book will:
 • Reignite the spark of genuine learning driven by people focused on what truly matters to them
 • Bridge teamwork into macro-creativity
 • Free you of confining assumptions and mindsets
 • Teach you to see the forest and the trees
 • End the struggle between work and personal time

Covering blurb copied from: <https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Discipline-Practice-Learning-Organization/dp/0385517254 (https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Discipline-Practice-Learning-Organization/dp/0385517254)>

I first came across Senge's 5th Discipline when I was working on a contract with EDS, where his book (the 1st ed.) was required reading for management because EDS were at the time implementing the management philosophy of the 5th Discipline in the 3rd wave of an impressively ambitious 5-waves of planned change. Unfortunately, management either couldn't read, or didn't seem to understand it all, or maybe they just felt threatened by it, but they started to frustrate the implementation - seeming rather like the classic rejection of the "not invented here" syndrome. The rest, as they say, "is history" - after EDS stock was hived off from the parent corporation (General Motors) by it being floated in an IPO (Independent Public Offering) , EDS' performance/profitability and market share started a progressively accelerating downwards slide, ending in HP buying-up the failing EDS, keeping the strategically useful bits they wanted and closing down the rest, asset-stripping what they could on the way. Lots of redundancies - the HP euphemism for which was "WFR" ("Work Force Reduction/Resizing").

I am highly skeptical of the extent to which the "dozens of practitioners" in the organisations mentioned in the covering blurb have in fact actually properly implemented the 5th discipline in any sustainable form, since, from firsthand experience I know of two of them that have categorically failed to do so, but have instead turned those principles into a toxic form of management control ("toxic" here being a term that I gather was used by Senge) and which has been seriously detrimental for the organisations concerned.
This is not to say that the 5th Discipline is rubbish - far from it - but it does seem to indicate that we as a species may be unable to learn how to pragmatically implement its principles until we have unlearned most/all of the garbage that we have been brought up to believe or have been "educated" to believe.

This situation is kinda summed up in the Introduction to the Revised Edition, where Senge writes:
The Prevailing System of Management
...a short paragraph written by Dr [W. Edwards] Deming [as a comment for the book jacket of the 1st 1990 ed.]...
"Our prevailing system of management has destroyed our people.
People are born with intrinsic motivation, self-respect, dignity, curiosity to learn, joy in learning. The forces of destruction begin with toddlers - a prize for the best Halloween costume, grades in school, gold stars - and on up through the university. On the job, people, teams and divisions are ranked, reward for the top, punishment for the bottom. Management by Objectives, quotas, incentive pay, business plans, put together separately, division by division, cause further loss, unknown and unknowable."

This could largely explain the EDS toxic management syndrome. Perhaps unsurprisingly, management seemed incapable of seeing/assessing the value of the pearls of wisdom (the 5th Discipline) strewn before them, and naturally fell back on learned (toxic) behaviours.

As far as I can see, this described destruction of humanity's potential continues unabated. For example, a sizeable majority of the people reading the above Deming quote could probably misunderstand it (or be unable to perceive and internalise the truth of it) as they will have already been damaged. There's some discussion about this on DCF:
The exemplary dogmatism and intellectual deafness of US business management schools and their inability to learn new things was - and still seems to be - egregious, with Harvard Business School arguably being there steadfastly leading the way back into darkness, most of the time.
- and:
...mentioning W.E. Deming. I've pretty much read his entire corpus and found 99% of his thinking spot on. His "seven deadly diseases" of business still rings true despite them being so widely ignored.

The 7 Deadly Diseases
The "Seven Deadly Diseases" include:
  • Lack of constancy of purpose
  • Emphasis on short-term profits
  • Evaluation by performance, merit rating, or annual review of performance
  • Mobility of management
  • Running a company on visible figures alone
  • Excessive medical costs
  • Excessive costs of warranty, fueled by lawyers who work for contingency fees

"A Lesser Category of Obstacles" includes

  • Neglecting long-range planning
  • Relying on technology to solve problems
  • Seeking examples to follow rather than developing solutions
  • Excuses, such as "our problems are different"
  • Obsolescence in school that management skill can be taught in classes[27]
  • Reliance on quality control departments rather than management, supervisors, managers of purchasing, and production workers
  • Placing blame on workforces who are only responsible for 15% of mistakes where the system designed by management is responsible for 85% of the unintended consequences
  • Relying on quality inspection rather than improving product quality


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Dormouse on June 17, 2018, 06:03 PM
I have just finished Orconomics: A Satire by J. Zachary Pike.

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It's an exploration of the economics required for D&D to exist in the form it does. Alludes to the financial crisis, and is probably slightly more enjoyable if you have some understanding of economics and finance but it is at a very simple level and not needed to enjoy the story at all.
Describes itself as a 'satire' but it isn't really; certainly not a viciously derisive satire in the Swiftian tradition and far more of a light persiflage full of warmth and fun.
Something that I think would be enjoyed by many RPG players.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on June 17, 2018, 06:26 PM
Sounds very cool.. I might check it out.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Dormouse on June 17, 2018, 08:52 PM
Do.
Like Gulliver's Travels, it is all held together by a fast paced adventure, in this case a romp with characters that zing like a James Bond movie. Structured like The Magnificent Seven or the Dirty Dozen (and maybe even a deliberate reference to the Seven's appropriation of a Japanese original), the adventures are pure D&D (as is the totting up).

The economics described are those of Rome (late Republic/early Empire) or maybe Spanish conquest (the economics is more Roman, the social consequences more Spanish). Explicit social comment, but seems more aimed at the isms in D&D/RPG than contemporary society. I suspect that the author has already overstretched his economic expertise and that Book Two, which I haven't read yet, will have more of the social commentary than economics. If it has either, because they can be ignored as the story and characters hold up on their own.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on June 18, 2018, 03:37 PM
Another fun novella by Mark Clifton:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/27595

If you have problems with authority figures I suspect you will enjoy his stories.  Written in early sixties but really applies in the post 9/11 USA.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: tomos on June 18, 2018, 03:53 PM
Another fun novella by Mark Clifton:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/27595

If you have problems with authority figures I suspect you will enjoy his stories.  Written in early sixties but really applies in the post 9/11 USA.
couldn't get the book (Error 403: Forbidden) but still made for an interesting read:
https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html
Spoiler
The Basics

    On December 30, 2015, PGLAF received notification that a lawsuit had been filed in Germany against it, and its CEO. The lawsuit was concerned with 18 eBooks, by three authors, which are part of the Project Gutenberg collection.
        The lawsuit was filed in the Frankfurt am Main Regional Court, in Germany.
        The Plaintiff is S. Fischer Verlag, GmbH. Hedderichstrasse 114, 60956 Frankfurt am Main, Germany. They are represented by the law firm, Waldorf Frommer of Munich.
    The essence of the lawsuit is that the Plaintiff demands the 18 eBooks to be removed from Project Gutenberg's servers. The lawsuit also seeks punitive damages and fines.
    Based on legal advice from its US attorneys, PGLAF declined to remove the items. The lawsuit proceeded, with a series of document filings by both sides, and hearings before the judges (all of which occurred in German, in the German court). PGLAF hired a German law firm, Wilde Beuger Solmecke, in Köln, to represent it in Germany.
    On February 9 2018, the Court issued a judgement granting essentially most of the Plaintiff's demands. The Court did not order that the 18 items no longer be made available by Project Gutenberg, and instead wrote that it is sufficient to instead make them no longer accessible to German Internet (IP) addresses.
        Court's original decision (in German).
        Decision translated into English.
    PGLAF complied with the Court's order on February 28, 2018 by blocking all access to www.gutenberg.org and sub-pages to all of Germany.

ironic that Project Gutenberg gets blocked in Germany...
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 18, 2018, 05:35 PM
ironic that Project Gutenberg gets blocked in Germany...
Indeed - especially the whole of it, not just the books the plaintiff wanted removed.  Sounds a bit petulant.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on June 18, 2018, 07:10 PM
...PGLAF complied with the Court's order on February 28, 2018 by blocking all access to www.gutenberg.org and sub-pages to all of Germany. ...
Yes, ironic, and brilliantly simple from an administrative POV.
As a logical extension - and even more simple - might be to block access to Project Gutenberg from all countries.    :o
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Deozaan on June 18, 2018, 07:18 PM
This is a tangentially related bit of irony:

I went to download a paper on privacy called "I've Got Nothing to Hide" and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy by Daniel J. Solove (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565), but since the website detected that I was using an anonymous proxy, they tried to get me to register for an account so they could track me, and made me complete the reCAPTCHA three times when I insisted on clicking the (almost hidden) link to continue downloading anonymously.

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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 26, 2018, 04:27 PM
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Fourth in Phil Rickman (http://www.philrickman.co.uk/)'s series of crime + supernatural novels featuring Merrily Watkins, Church of England deliverance minister (what used to be called an exorcist).  Useful commentary on this series to be found on  Philip Grosset's Clerical Detectives Web Site (http://www.detecs.org/intro.html), specifically at The Rev Merrily Watkins (http://www.detecs.org/watkins.html) page.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on June 26, 2018, 04:45 PM
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The first two novels in Jeffrey E. Barlough's 'Western Lights' series.  Quoting the Wikipedia article on Jeffrey E. Barloughw:
[...] author of several dark fantasy novels that comprise his Western Lights series, set in an alternate world in which the last Ice Age never ended. [...] where Victorian society exists alongside prehistoric beasts. The books are written in a style reminiscent of 19th century authors that has often been referred to Charles Dickens mixed with H. P. Lovecraft. His stories portray eccentric and (mostly) likable characters set within detailed locations that, on the surface, seem mundane and sometimes even cheery, but sinister plots and presences are slowly and carefully revealed.
I've never read Lovecraft, but I see the Dickens.  And these are most definitely dark fantasy - very, very dark, especially in the case of the bleak The House in the High Wood.


Official Website of the Western Lights Series (http://www.westernlightsbooks.com/)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on June 26, 2018, 06:09 PM
Two more down in my book challenge for 2018.

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Skinwalker by Faith Hunter (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5585788-skinwalker)

I'd heard good things about the series, but the beginning made me think that they were wrong. She uses a lot of glue words, and they slow down reading. The dialog of the Beast is quite gimmicky. But as I read, and was caught up in the backgrounds and mystery, my reservations faded. It became enjoyable instead of a chore, and the story was quite good. I'm not sure if I will continue the series, but it was an enjoyable read, and I am considering more of the Jane Yellowrock books- more for the characterizations and background than anything else.

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Skyborn by David Dalglish (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25066567-skyborn)

It started out slowly, though it rapidly picked up the pace, and enthralled me with the story of flying islands far in the sky and their winged protectors. I'd thought it predictable, but it took an unexpected but welcomed turn into other territories. I'm looking forward to the next book to continue the story!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 07, 2018, 05:12 PM
The Furthest Station by Ben Aaronovich:
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A novella, not a full novel, in the "Peter Grant" a.k.a. "Rivers of London" series.  I suppose he more or less ties up the loose ends, but it's a potboiler  <grump>  Doesn't make sense unless you've read the earlier full novels.  And this is just me, but I didn't like the inclusion of an interview with the author, either.  An author revealing too much about his/her approach and beliefs (or lack of) is apt to undermine my ability to maintain willing suspension of disbelief.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on August 07, 2018, 09:53 PM
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Gardens of the Moon (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55399.Gardens_of_the_Moon)
Malazan Book of the Fallen #1
by Steven Erikson

I bought this several years ago on a recommendation, started reading it, and put it down.  It seemed at the time too dense.  I really don't know what my thoughts were at the time, as I love Glen Cook, David Drake, Eric Flint, Harry Turtledove, and many like that.

I figured I must have missed something, and picked it up again, and haven't been able to put it down.  It is quite dense but quite enthralling.  The details and interactions are amazing to see unfold, and the background is very well written.  It's definitely not light reading, but a well-crafted fantasy epic.  If that type of thing appeals to you, I definitely recommend this one.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 08, 2018, 07:50 AM
I am reading anything I can get by Clifford D. Simak.  Just fun SciFi.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_D._Simak


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 15, 2018, 03:17 PM
Gardens of the Moon (Malazan Book of the Fallen #1) by Steven Erikson
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I bought this several years ago on a recommendation, started reading it, and put it down.  [...] I figured I must have missed something, and picked it up again, and haven't been able to put it down.  It is quite dense but quite enthralling.
I had a false start with that too, I think because it opens on a scene of World War One-level carnage, with no explanation whatsoever.  Something must have grabbed me because I went back and finished it; also read the next one, Deadhouse Gates.  Erikson absolutely does not hold your hand.  I liked his description of the Crimson Guard mercenary army as "500 men and women in brown leather with not a single shiny buckle between them."  Much more realistic than the flowery heraldry and romanticised conflict you sometimes get in fantasy.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 15, 2018, 03:19 PM
I am reading anything I can get by Clifford D. Simak.  Just fun SciFi.
Ah, takes me back...  Way Station, Time Is The Simplest Thing, City...  great stuff.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 15, 2018, 03:33 PM
I am reading anything I can get by Clifford D. Simak.  Just fun SciFi.
Ah, takes me back...  Way Station, Time Is The Simplest Thing, City...  great stuff.


Speaking of old times, remember those scifi paperbacks with two novels and a book cover on each side?   :D
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 15, 2018, 03:49 PM
Third in Jasper Fforde (http://jasperfforde.com/)'s Bookworld series, described by various reviewers as inspired lunacy, unashamedly silly but marvellously intelligent, full of clever wordplay, literary allusions and bibliowit;

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If you like books - a lot - this series is great fun.

Spoiler
The cover art is an artist's rather inaccurate rendition of Miss Havisham (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Havisham) from Dickens' Great Expectations] trying to set a speed record in one of Sir Malcolm Campbell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Campbell)'s between-wars aero-engined cars in a race against Mr. Toad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Toad) from Kenneth Graham's The Wind in the Willows... and owing to changes in local government boundaries, the Cheshir Cat is now the Unitary Authority of Warrington Cat.

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on August 15, 2018, 03:58 PM
Erikson absolutely does not hold your hand.  I liked his description of the Crimson Guard mercenary army as "500 men and women in brown leather with not a single shiny buckle between them."  Much more realistic than the flowery heraldry and romanticised conflict you sometimes get in fantasy.

I am definitely seeing this.  Many times I read before going to bed to wind down- this is definitely not a book for that!  You have to engage your mind more than with most fiction these days, and I love it!
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 15, 2018, 04:03 PM
Books four and five of Emma Newman (http://www.enewman.co.uk/)'s Split Worlds quintet:

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Quoting critics: "A unique blend of urban, historical and crime fantasy clothed in a Regency veneer."  "Dark magic, darker fae foes, family feuds."  "Takes on class and gender dynamics."

Emma Newman also writes SF, but I haven't yet read any of those.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: rjbull on August 15, 2018, 04:07 PM
Speaking of old times, remember those scifi paperbacks with two novels and a book cover on each side?

No!  I'm in the UK, and that may be why.  :(  Cover art was a problem for me in itself.  I never bought, say, Analog as a teenager, worried I think about the flak I might get others seeing the lurid covers...  I must have missed out on a lot of good stuff.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on August 17, 2018, 12:30 PM
Speaking of old times, remember those scifi paperbacks with two novels and a book cover on each side?

No!  I'm in the UK, and that may be why.  :(  Cover art was a problem for me in itself.  I never bought, say, Analog as a teenager, worried I think about the flak I might get others seeing the lurid covers...  I must have missed out on a lot of good stuff.


Here is one of the double paperbacks I had:

https://www.amazon.com/Envoy-Star-Shock-Double-G-614/dp/B000N349SI

I remembered the title "Envoy to the Dog Star."

Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Curt on August 17, 2018, 05:11 PM
Another fun novella by Mark Clifton: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/27595
couldn't get the book (Error 403: Forbidden) but still made for an interesting read:
https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html
ironic that Project Gutenberg gets blocked in Germany...

Your quote might have been a little too short, tomos:

Q: Who are the authors? Why are they copyrighted in Germany, but not in the US?
A:

    Heinrich Mann, who died in 1950.
    Thomas Mann, who died in 1955.
    Alfred Döblin, who died in 1957.

In Germany, they are copyrighted based on "life +70 years" of copyright protection (so, copyright will expire after 2020, 2025 and 2027, respectively). In the US, copyright protection for works published prior to 1978 is based on the number of years since publication.
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: wraith808 on August 20, 2018, 10:03 AM
Promise of Blood is excellent, if you like alternative history with a touch of the fantastical.  I'd definitely recommend it, as I did above :)

Of course, tastes vary, and admittedly it is a bit hard in the beginning as he's quite detailed in his weaving of the world, and it starts In Media Res.  But I've found the whole series gripping.

The first is the Powder Mage Series (https://www.goodreads.com/series/99602-powder-mage), by Brian McClellan.  It starts with A Promise of Blood (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15790883-promise-of-blood)

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The Age of Kings is dead . . . and I have killed it.

It's a bloody business overthrowing a king...
Field Marshal Tamas' coup against his king sent corrupt aristocrats to the guillotine and brought bread to the starving. But it also provoked war with the Nine Nations, internal attacks by royalist fanatics, and the greedy to scramble for money and power by Tamas's supposed allies: the Church, workers unions, and mercenary forces.

It's brilliantly paced, with visceral battle scenes that other than the presence of the Powder Mages and other Magic are very well done, and might as well be right out of a Sharpe novel, and well written characters that are intelligently developed.


Title: Re: What books are you reading?
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: IainB on September 29, 2018, 04:27 PM
Today I was reading some US media channels in my BazQux feed-reader that seemed to be absolutely choc-a-block with "news" about the pillorying of one Brett Michael Kavanaugh (a US Circuit Judge of the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit) - almost to the exclusion of any other US/world news.

I don't know anything about Kavanaugh, but what struck me was a news feed (chicagotribune.com) that referred to it as Kavanaugh's 'character assassination'. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-perspec-chapman-kavanaugh-smear-accusers-trump-0927-20180926-story,amp.html)
The related videos were absolutely pure theatre...
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- but, watching them I had a sense of déjà vu and after a bit of head-scratching, I finally traced it back to that well-known hated/loved world leader, Adolf Hitler. I mentioned in this discussion thread, back in 2011:
...I am reading an interesting book at the moment, as I explained in a separate post...
...I had not actually wanted to read it, though I had been steeling myself for the time when I would have to.
I am reading this English translation, here, if you want to take a look: Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (James Murphy translation).pdf (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9rIby-RfgLNMWIxYzA4NWEtNDdlYi00ZmRjLTk2NjgtZTU1MjQ5NzIyNDY5)...

At 557pp, Mein Kampf is not a light reading exercise, but searching the .pdf file eventually turned this up: - Hitler was apparently describing the timeless methods that would seem to have been employed in the Kavanaugh pillorying:
From Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler - from pages 78 and 79:

... By far the most effective branch of political education, which in this connection is best expressed by the word 'propaganda', is carried on by the Press.  The Press is the chief means employed in the process of political 'enlightenment'.  It represents a kind of school for adults.  This educational activity, however, is not in the hands of the State but in the clutches of powers which are partly of a very inferior character.  While still a young man in Vienna I had excellent opportunities for coming to know the men who owned this machine for mass instruction, as well as those who supplied it with the ideas it distributed.  At first I was quite surprised when I realized how little time was necessary for this dangerous Great Power within the State to produce a certain belief among the public; and in doing so the genuine will and convictions of the public were often completely misconstrued.  It took the Press only a few days to transform some ridiculously trivial matter into an issue of national importance, while vital problems were completely ignored or filched and hidden away from public attention.

The Press succeeded in the magical art of producing names from nowhere within the course of a few weeks.  They made it appear that the great hopes of the masses were bound up with those names. And so they made those names more popular than any man of real ability could ever hope to be in a long lifetime. All this was done, despite the fact that such names were utterly unknown and indeed had never been heard of even up to a month before the Press publicly emblazoned them.  At the same time old and tried figures in the political and other spheres of life quickly faded from the public memory and were forgotten as if they were dead, though still healthy and in the enjoyment of their full viguour.  Or sometimes such men were so vilely abused that it looked as if their names would soon stand as permanent symbols of the worst kind of baseness.  In order to estimate properly the really pernicious influence which the Press can exercise one had to study this infamous Jewish method whereby honourable and decent people were besmirched with mud and filth, in the form of low abuse and slander, from hundreds and hundreds of quarters simultaneously, as if commanded by some magic formula.

These highway robbers would grab at anything which might serve their evil ends.

They would poke their noses into the most intimate family affairs and would not rest until they had sniffed out some petty item which could be used to destroy the reputation of their victim.  But if the result of all this sniffing should be that nothing derogatory was discovered in the private or public life of the victim, they continued to hurl abuse at him, in the belief that some of their animadversions would stick even though refuted a thousand times.  In most cases it finally turned out impossible for the victim to continue his defence, because the accuser worked together with so many accomplices that his slanders were re-echoed interminably.  But these slanderers would never own that they were acting from motives which influence the common run of humanity or are understood by them.  Oh, no.  The scoundrel who defamed his contemporaries in this villainous way would crown himself with a halo of heroic probity fashioned of unctuous phraseology and twaddle about his 'duties as a journalist' and other mouldy nonsense of that kind.  When these cuttle-fishes gathered together in large shoals at meetings and congresses they would give out a lot of slimy talk about a special kind of honour which they called the professional honour of the journalist.  Then the assembled species would bow their respects to one another. 

These are the kind of beings that fabricate more than two-thirds of what is called public opinion, from the foam of which the parliamentary Aphrodite eventually arises.

Several volumes would be needed if one were to give an adequate account of the whole procedure and fully describe all its hollow fallacies.  But if we pass over the details and look at the product itself while it is in operation I think this alone will be sufficient to open the eyes of even the most innocent and credulous person, so that he may recognize the absurdity of this institution by looking at it objectively. ...

- which all rather coincidentally seems to indicate that The Führer was apparently sitting in Cell 9 writing about the producers of what we today have labelled "Fake news".

My conclusion: Mein Kampf is worth a read as it may have perceptive, real educational and historical value - and maybe news media organisations have for years appreciated this fact and been using it as a textbook tutorial for honing their "reporting methods".

Utterly amazing. Read dis book!    :Thmbsup:
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Title: Re: What books are you reading?
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This book is available from Amazon for (Kindle $12.99), (paper $9.91) here (https://www.amazon.com/This-Bodys-Not-Enough-Both-ebook/dp/B079KV34Y7/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=).  Panzer, what was your opinion of it?
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: mouser on September 30, 2018, 07:19 AM
I've been powering through a recent C++ book to get myself up to speed on the new stuff in C++14 through C++17 that I have not been keeping up with.
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https://www.amazon.com/Professional-C-Marc-Gregoire/dp/1119421306

"Professional C++" by Marc Gregoire, 1184 pages.

There's a lot to like in the new C++ stuff, but the language is definitely showing it's age..

I think perhaps a standalone slim book on just recent additions to the language would be a bit more useful, so I'm keeping my eye open for that.  This fellow is good: https://www.bfilipek.com/
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: YannickDa on October 03, 2018, 04:15 PM
I've heard that "Mein Kampf" is a mandatory read for israeli students aiming to integrate "Mossad".

This is what i'm reading now :

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From the Brainsturbator (http://www.brainsturbator.com/posts/218/towards-a-psychological-operations-reading-list) blog :

The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/067403256X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=skilluminati-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=067403256X) by HUGH Wilford. This is certainly one of the best books I've read, period. Wilford takes on an insanely ambitious and important subject that's been obscured by secrecy and history. He does it great justice and the writing itself is amazingly good. Once the premise and reality is established, Wilford kicks things into high gear, providing hundreds of pages of eye-opening connections that will change the way you think about the past six decades of US popular culture. It is a source of great amusement to me that so few self-proclaimed "conspiracy theorists" have even heard of this book, because their paranoia pales by comparison to what Wilford is laying out in abundantly documented detail here.
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: Dirhael on October 12, 2018, 08:30 AM
Just finished the latest entry in the fantastic "Murderbot Diaries" by Martha Wells. Exit Strategy is the 4th and final novella in the series (a full length novel is planned sometime in the future), and every one of them have been a great read. "Murderbot" is quite possibly the best main character I've ever spent time with in a SF book.

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Full series over at GoodReads (https://www.goodreads.com/series/191900-the-murderbot-diaries)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: MilesAhead on October 25, 2018, 12:35 PM
Continuing with the works of Cliffor D. Simak today I started on
The Werewolf Principle (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=the+werewolf+principle)
Title: Re: What books are you reading?
Post by: panzer on November 13, 2018, 05:03 AM
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This book is available from Amazon for (Kindle $12.99), (paper $9.91) here (https://www.amazon.com/This-Bodys-Not-Enough-Both-ebook/dp/B079KV34Y7/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=).  Panzer, what was your opinion of it?

Not my cup of tea. But maybe you are going to like it, who knows ...
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Post by: panzer on November 13, 2018, 05:04 AM
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Post by: wraith808 on December 07, 2018, 12:10 AM
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Deadhouse Gates

Again, I stumbled at the beginning- the shifting of most of the characters to ones that were less significant in the first book threw me.  With a different focus, I had to discover most of the focus characters and experienced the same slogging pace at the beginning as the first in the series. But armed with my experiences from that novel, I kept at it, and as I began to get the feel for the characters, the book grabbed me.
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Post by: panzer on December 12, 2018, 07:55 AM
Judgement Detox: Release the Beliefs That Hold You Back from Living a Better Life
The Gifts of Imperfection: Let Go of Who You Think You're Supposed to Be and Embrace Who You Are
Flatland
Black Box Thinking: The Surprising Truth About Success

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A Study In Scarlet Women
Cradle of the Deep 2
Navigating the Stars
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Post by: wraith808 on December 12, 2018, 09:45 AM
Just finished Red War (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39325083-red-war)

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And that finishes my reading challenge for the year.  I started out strong, but other factors bogged me down making what I thought was a slam dunk questionable at times.

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Post by: panzer on January 07, 2019, 04:47 AM
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Post by: MilesAhead on January 08, 2019, 09:16 AM
Continuing with Richard D. Simak, I just completed Time and Again (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/876499.Time_and_Again).

I will start Time is the Simplest Thing (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1269436.Time_Is_the_Simplest_Thing) today.

I have a thing for time travel stories.  :)

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Post by: rjbull on March 05, 2019, 05:39 PM
Catherine Fisher (https://www.catherine-fisher.com/)'s Chronoptika Quartet; YA time-travel.  Vivid, energetic, engrossing, bleak.  None of the main characters are really sympathetic, but you understand what drives them.
Catherine Fisher writes: I have always thought the idea of Time Travel fascinating, full of paradox and speculation and opportunities for adventure.

If you had the power to change previous events to bring back someone that you loved, would you do it, even if it changed the world? In Venn I wanted to invent a man so deep in guilt that he has lost the ability to care about anyone else.

Into this dilemma I wanted to mix all the old folklore: the wintry isolated house, the dark wood, the beautiful, deadly Shee and their ageless, changeless land; the eccentric inventor, the opium dens and alleys of Victorian London.

I wanted a story full of variety and mystery. And above all, enjoyment.
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Post by: MilesAhead on March 09, 2019, 08:02 AM
I am still working through Clifford D. Simak.  Currently Earth for Inspiration, one of a series of collections of his short works.
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Post by: mouser on April 19, 2019, 10:23 PM
Principles of Economics by Mankiw
https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Economics-7th-Gregory-Mankiw/dp/128516587X
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Each page makes sense, but when I close the book and look around I still find it hard to understand how anyone is making any money.
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Post by: MilesAhead on April 25, 2019, 03:23 PM
I am still devouring the novels of Clifford D. Simak.  It seems with the digital books they are playing the "region game" they play with DVDs.  Novels like Cosmic Engineers can be purchased in Australia but not in the USA.  Really annoying.  This is forcing me prematurely into the short stories.  Bummer!
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Post by: holt on May 26, 2019, 08:43 PM
Thunderhead by Keith Laumer  (http://baencd.freedoors.org/Books/A%20Plague%20of%20Demons/0743435885__18.htm)

To navigate the page; scroll 'up' to upper right corner gives Back, Next, and Table of Contents; scroll 'down' to lower right corner gives Back, Next, and Framed (which I got lost clicking on and had to click on browser 'back' to get back where I knew where I was). The story consists of 35 one-page 'chapters'. 
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Post by: irkregent on May 29, 2019, 08:53 PM
I am working through two books right now.

The first is a technical book about programming, likely the best I have ever read on the topic:
The Pragmatic Programmer, 20th Anniversary Edition, by David Thomas and Andrew Hunt (https://pragprog.com/book/tpp20/the-pragmatic-programmer-20th-anniversary-edition)
I read the first edition not long after it was released, and every time I go through it I glean something that I need to implement in my work.

The second is my "just for fun" book:
Life Is a Wheel: Love, Death, Etc., and a Bike Ride Across America, by Bruce Weber (https://www.amazon.com/Life-Wheel-Memoirs-Bike-Riding-Obituarist-ebook/dp/B00A28GUQ8/)
I quite enjoy reading accounts of bike touring, especially those across the USA, and this is yet another.  Though this one has more biographical content than is usually the case, I am enjoying it.
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Post by: mouser on June 26, 2019, 09:08 PM
I've started reading an incredible book, The Secret of Our Success: How Culture Is Driving Human Evolution, Domesticating Our Species, and Making Us Smarter by Joseph Henrich (https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Our-Success-Evolution-Domesticating/dp/0691178437/)
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It's a science book meant for lay readers, full of fascinating anecdotes.

I've only just started it, but it's compelling and important.  It makes a pretty convincing case that the secret to human evolution is not that we evolved to be smarter or better at tools or language, as some have theorized, but rather that our species has evolved to become, essentially, machines specialized for passing on culture.  It's our skill and obsession at passing on cultural information and knowledge, rather than some qualitatively different level of intelligence, that makes us so special and so successful.  And that seen from this light, many otherwise odd behaviors and tendencies make more sense.

Very thought-provoking stuff, and completely accessible with no background knowledge required.  Highly recommended.
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Post by: IainB on June 30, 2019, 03:11 AM
@mouser: Thanks for the reference to The Secrets of Our Success (https://best-online-books.com/9375-4-1ce92b4a/signup-dual/#/z=46815/dp=2050752661.537426.e8c41cf4f1.31280.a9f0f3a188db0dab1634c2172d4fcc36/q=The+Secret+of+Our+Success/) (click to get to free download).
I'm familiar with that book, but the thoughts it contains aren't necessarily new or likely to give us an epiphany unless our historical perspective is narrow. Indeed, I thought it was an old hat hypothesis  - I mean, I was taught - and thought I understood - that the only real current human evolution that was taking place was in cultural developments (not that you'd necessarily know it from observation of current MSM reporting). For example, as per Hitler's thoughts in Mein Kampf, above, where - in modern Western cultures - the manipulative MSM are predictably and perpetually trying to control the narrative and tell us how to think and what to think, forcing our collective cognitive gestalt onto their chosen propaganda, whereupon the availability heuristic takes over and we have no time/inclination to look behind the green curtain, and so the propaganda becomes a perception of reality in our minds. It would be unlikely that this wasn't shaping the cultural gestalt to a greater (rather than a lesser) extent.

Why do we fall for this? Well, as Dr W. Edwards Deming put it:
Why are we all so damn stupid?
- i.e., we can't help it. The reason seems to be that our paradigms and perceptions of reality and especially our thinking are filtered through a primitive ego-centric mechanism that is hard to disassociate our thinking from, in a sort of intellectual deadlock, and the smarter the individual (IQ), the more secure the deadlock and the harder it becomes to be objective (De Bono in the book Teaching Thinking). The Vedic philosophers of 3,000 years ago knew about this and called it ahamkara - a state of illusion in the mind, which is perceived to be reality and is connected to the concept of the Self and the survival of the ego. The concept of ahamkara can be found in Hinduism today - as part of the lower (physical) mind below the Buddhi intellect.

So where does developmental cultural evolution likely stem from? What is the key? Arguably from developmental dissonance/stress within a society and its ancient and modern philosophy (and now science) helping us to seek answers.
Interestingly, the excellent (IMHO) SF movie "I Am Mother" (2019) explores this very point, amongst others. I had to stay alert whilst watching it though, as it drip-feeds little clues for the observant to figure out what's actually going on.

However, philosophy seems to be the key: (my emphasis)
Genuine philosophical thought, depending upon original individual insights, arose in many cultures roughly contemporaneously. Karl Jaspers termed the intense period of philosophical development beginning around the 7th century and concluding around the 3rd century BCE an Axial Age in human thought. - per Ancient Philosophy. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_philosophy)
I used to feel pretty pessimistic about humanity's forward evolutionary progress, as otherwise "democratic" nations leading the way often seemed to be (especially in the US or Europe, for example) in a near-perpetual state of unrest driven by internecine divisive and antithetical religio-political ideologies intent on destruction/suppression of "the other" - leading to implicit brown-shirting, political correctness, de-platforming and oxygen starvation against "incorrect" thinking and the loss of freedom of thought and speech and ultimately self-destruction of the democracy. In the US for example - the torchbearer for freedom and democracy - think Univ. of Berkely (that bastion of free speech) and where organised riots and apparently complicit administrators shut down freedom of speech, and a US presidential candidate who divisively publicly labelled the voters (potentially half the plebiscite) of their opponent as "a basket of deplorables", or some such, and people apparently still cannot safely walk in a public place in the US wearing the "wrong" sort of hat. In Europe, the Mother of Democracy - the British Parliament - has passed laws limiting freedom of speech - i.e., loosely-defined "wrong" or "incorrect" speech - and on the world stage, the manipulative Google and Facebook seem to be opportunistically encouraging yet more government intervention and regulation of freedoms for self-serving purposes as they attempt to externalise the cost of and their responsibility for mitigating harms to cultures and societies arising directly and indirectly from the delivery of their services (situation normal for a corporate psychopath, which always seeks to externalise the costs of its environmental footprint). Singly and together, these things represent a seemingly remorseless  onslaught on privacy and freedom. I could go on, but you get the idea.
As I said separately to someone else on this forum, the old name for that is fascism (totalitarianism), and the free world had had enough of it and ended up fighting 3 dreadful wars to keep itself and future generations free of it in the '40s. The blood of hundreds of thousands of US and other Allied Forces soldiers still fertilises huge swathes of French land (Allied casualties of war with the Germans/Nazis), and in the Pacific (US casualties of war with the Japanese), for example. We don't need to repeat that.
However, from reading a book from the '80s I saw reason for becoming more positive about the outlook of our cultural evolution, as the potential for forward and developmental cultural evolution was hypothesised in the SRI report, "Changing Images of Man" (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9rIby-RfgLNN2I5YWY4OTctNjE0Yy00MmE4LWI1ZmQtNjRlMTU3MjQwMzEx/view?usp=sharing) (download link of OCRed document in the public domain).
It's a study in systems science and world order.
      ...An image may be appropriate for one phase in the development of a society, but once that stage is accomplished, the use of the image as a continuing guide to action will likely create more problems than it solves. (Figure 1 illustrates, in a highly simplified way that will be further developed in Chapter 3, the interaction between "changing images of man" and a changing society.) While earlier societies' most difficult problems arose from natural disasters such as pestilence, famine, and floods (due to an inability to manipulate the human's environment and ourselves in unprecedented ways, and from our failure to ensure wise exercising of these "Faustian" powers-as Spengler termed the term).
      Science, technology, and economics have made possible really significant strides toward achieving such basic human goals as physical safety and security, material comfort, and better health. ...
      pp 4 - 6, Changing Images of Man - SRI report
The SRI report provides a hypothetical semi-sinusoidal model in a diagram and which intriguingly effectively suggests that cultural and social outcomes could be a de facto weighted average of individual desires (in the minds of people). If so, a freedom-negative outcome that most people dislike - e.g., having been pulled into that state by (say) a dictatorship - can't persist over time and will be pushed into an upwards development, through some form of dynamic change (e.g., activism, revolution).
One wave was the force given by the image in the minds of Man as to what the direction of Man's purpose, etc. could/should be, and the other was the force of direction imposed on Man in those societies, by prevailing socio-political standards/forces.
The suggestion was that these two forces alternately pushed and pulled each other apart in a cyclical fashion, and that when they were furthest apart the force to come together became strongest, so they came together and crossed over in a form of over-compensation or drag, exchanging the role of leadership in the alternating push-pull effect. It was a very hopeful model really, but it did offer a fit with history and explained how, for example, periods of tyranny could/would be overcome (e.g., the ending of the oppressive and totalitarian Nazi National Socialist regime in WW2) and society would develop/progress until it met the next period of tyranny, and so on. A model of history repeating, I suppose.

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Post by: IainB on July 02, 2019, 09:41 PM
@mouser:
I wrote above:
...I thought it was an old hat hypothesis  - I mean, I was taught - and thought I understood - that the only real current human evolution that was taking place was in cultural developments...
I usually try to substantiate what I write with examples, but I couldn't find my old lecture notes as I lost them in a fire. However, after scratching my head a bit and using duckduckgo, I eventually managed to come up with this:
The very concept of progress — of the continual betterment of the human condition through the application of science and the spread of freedom — was a product of the European Enlightenment, as Kishore Mahbubani reminds us. These thinkers were among the first to advance the idea that humanity’s problems are soluble, and that we are not condemned to misery and misfortune. The spectacular progress that ensued, first for the West and then increasingly also for the rest, was a matter not of historical necessity, but of diligent human effort and struggle. Pessimism is not just factually wrong, it is also harmful because it undermines our confidence in our ability to bring about further progress. The best argument that progress is possible is that it has been achieved in the past.
– Maarten Boudry

Boudry is a modern philosopher and a very amusing skeptic, but I reckon he makes the above point very well.
Mind you, I do think that some evolutionary cultural developments can turn out to be backward steps or dead-ends, but overall it's probably a sort of "2 steps forward, 1 step backwards" kind of cultural progress, like climbing up a sandhill or scoria-covered mountainside.
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Post by: MilesAhead on August 01, 2019, 08:46 AM
Recursion (https://www.amazon.com/Recursion-Novel-Blake-Crouch-ebook/dp/B07HDSHP7N/ref=sr_1_3?crid=U3WZELD01S4Y&keywords=recursion+blake+crouch&qid=1564666226&s=books&sprefix=recursion%2Caps%2C156&sr=1-3) by Blake Crouch. 

An interesting take on time travel.  When someone goes into the past to change the future, when the time comes for the nullified event to happen, then people who originally experienced it remember it.  This can be unpleasant if the thing you remember is burning to death, drowning, being blown up, buried alive etc..

It is also a love story.

Also I am nearly finished with another Blake Crouch novel Dark Matter (https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Matter-Novel-Blake-Crouch-ebook/dp/B0180T0IUY/ref=sr_1_2?crid=YXST1M6YDFHO&keywords=dark+matter+blake+crouch&qid=1564666871&s=books&sprefix=dark+matter+blake+crouch%2Cstripbooks%2C167&sr=1-2).  Rather than time travel the protagonist searches through parallel worlds trying to get back to the one he was expelled from.
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Post by: IainB on August 01, 2019, 04:49 PM
@MilesAhead: Thanks for the post. I hadn't known of either book. They both look interesting. I shall have to read them now...(SF addiction).
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Post by: MilesAhead on August 02, 2019, 09:30 AM
@MilesAhead: Thanks for the post. I hadn't known of either book. They both look interesting. I shall have to read them now...(SF addiction).

Heh heh.  I've been a steady consumer of SciFi since the early 1960s.  I can only guess that I missed out on Clifford D. Simak's works because I must have looked at one of the stories with goblins and thought all his stuff was like that.  I am still chasing after Cosmic Engineers and a few others.  The ebooks make it a bit easier to get books I missed the first time around.   :Thmbsup:
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Post by: lindagriffithh on August 05, 2019, 05:36 AM
I am reading "The catcher in the rye" :up:
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Post by: holt on August 13, 2019, 09:31 AM
Calvin and Hobbes Comic Strip- by Bill Watterson starting with November 18, 1985 (https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1985/11/18)
You can page-scroll sideways to go to the next one/s and follow the entire series by Bill Watterson.
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Post by: rjbull on August 19, 2019, 03:27 PM
Biography of the author of The Wind in the Willowsw:

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Post by: rjbull on September 03, 2019, 04:23 PM
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Re-reading - more accurately, reading the second edition - of The Tough Guide to Fantasylandw by Diana Wynne Jonesw.  IMO the first (UK) edition has a better cover, and they lost at least one good pun in the second, but only the latter has the Dark Lord Approved! stamp.

This is the cult classic in which Diana Wynne Jones, no mean fantasist herself, ruthlessly skewers [OMT] every tired trope and cobwebbed cliche of the entire fantasy genre.
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Post by: rjbull on September 11, 2019, 03:47 PM
Ghosts of the Tsunami
Author: Lloyd Parry, Richard
ISBN: 9781784704889
Physical Description: 276 pages : illustrations (black and white), maps (black and white) ; 20 cm

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On 11th March 2011, a massive earthquake sent a 120-foot-high tsunami smashing into the coast of north-east Japan. By the time the sea retreated, more than 18,000 people had been crushed, burned to death, or drowned. It was Japan's greatest single loss of life since the atomic bombing of Nagasaki. It set off a national crisis, and the meltdown of a nuclear power plant. And even after the immediate emergency had abated, the trauma of the disaster continued to express itself in bizarre and mysterious ways. Richard Lloyd Parry lived through the earthquake in Tokyo, and spent six years reporting from the disaster zone. 'Ghosts of the Tsunami' is a classic of literary non-fiction, a heart-breaking and intimate account of an epic tragedy, told through the personal accounts of those who lived through it.
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Post by: MilesAhead on September 11, 2019, 05:27 PM
Dr. Bloodmoney (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=dr.+bloodmoney%2C+or+how+we+got+along+after+the+bomb&i=stripbooks&crid=1C6RCEOV69INZ&sprefix=dr.+bloodmoney%2Caps%2C221&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_14)  by Philip K. Dick
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Post by: holt on February 22, 2020, 12:20 AM
Ben-Hur by Lew Wallace in three youtube installments
BEN-HUR by Lew Wallace - Part 1 of 3 - FULL AudioBook (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d0R_gAcpbo) 7h5m
BEN-HUR by Lew Wallace - Part 2 of 3 - FULL AudioBook (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EjuW9UXdwY) 11h13m
BEN-HUR by Lew Wallace - Part 3 of 3 - FULL AudioBook (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ubfARwqAXw) 5h3m
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Post by: zridling on February 23, 2020, 01:25 PM
Big Sid's Vincati
Story of a gruff father who stayed alive just to build a custom motorcycle with his (professor) son. It's a quick read through the father's love of British motorcycles after WWII and throughout the 50s and 60s of customizations. The son and father never got along until they had the idea to build a custom bike together. And that was enough to get the old man off his deathbed and into the shop for one last build -- and then they still fought like cats and dogs!

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Post by: panzer on February 28, 2020, 01:15 PM
Mackesy: The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse
Stålenhag: The Electric State
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Post by: MilesAhead on February 29, 2020, 10:34 AM
I finally got to read Cosmic Engineers by Clifford D. Simak at  https://archive.org/details/books

Simply search on the title and either borrow the book or add yourself to the wait list.  Creating an account is free.  You can read Ebooks right in your browser.  The site is great for finding stuff that does not come up in Libby online library app.
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Post by: holt on March 08, 2020, 01:54 AM
"Clans of the Alphane Moon" - Philip K Dick (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbCWqXuSxtA) YouTube audio book 7h 28m
Clans of the Alphane Moon - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clans_of_the_Alphane_Moon)
War between Earth and insectoid-dominated Alpha III ended over a decade ago.
The Alphane Moon is a former mental hospital colony, isolated by the truce deep behind enemy lines.
As a former satellite-based global psychiatric institution for colonists on other Alphane system worlds unable to cope with the stresses of colonisation, the inhabitants of Alpha III M2 have lived peacefully for years unmolested by the alien worlds surrounding their Moon.
But, under the pretence of a medical mission, Earth intends to take their colony back.
The Clans
On Alpha III M2, psychiatric diagnostic groups have all vacated the hospital facilities, taken over the Moon, and differentiated themselves into caste-like pseudo-ethnicities. The inhabitants have formed seven clans:
The Pares are people suffering from paranoia. They function as the statesman class.
The Manses are suffering from mania. They are the most active class, the warrior class.
The Skitzes are the ones suffering from schizophrenia. They correspond to the poet class, with some of them being religious visionaries.
The Heebs consist of people suffering from hebephrenia (disorganized schizophrenia).
The Polys suffer from polymorphic schizophrenia.
The Ob-Coms are the ones with obsessive-compulsive disorder, their delegate is Ingred Hibbler. The name of their location is not given. They are the clerks and office holders of the society, the ritualistic functionaries, with no original ideas. Their conservatism balances the radical quality of the Polys and gives the society stability.
The Deps are suffering from clinical depression.
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Post by: mouser on March 08, 2020, 10:33 AM
Harrington on Hold 'em Expert Strategy for No Limit Tournaments (https://www.amazon.com/Harrington-Expert-Strategy-Limit-Tournaments/dp/1880685337) – by Dan Harrington and Bill Robertie
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No Limit Hold 'em: Theory and Practice (https://www.amazon.com/No-Limit-Hold-Theory-Practice/dp/188068537X) – by David Sklansky
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Board Game Design Advice: From the Best in the World (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/109491424X) - by Gabe Barrett
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Post by: holt on March 09, 2020, 08:07 AM
Sam Quinones Dreamland Part 01 Audiobook (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLNm_H508ug) 6h 57m
Sam Quinones Dreamland Part 02 Audiobook (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsavEiR2PMY) 6h 58m
Sam Quinones - wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Quinones#Books)
quote: Dreamland: The True Tale of America's Opiate Epidemic (Bloomsbury Press, 2015) is story of the evolving opioid epidemic in Mexico and the United States. Quinones describes the "explosion in heroin use and how one small Mexican town changed how heroin was produced and sold in America."

Additional reading;
THE ORTHOMOLECULAR TREATMENT OF DRUG ADDICTION
A FIRST AUSTRALIAN REPORT
by Archie Kalokerinos A.M.M., M.B.B.S., Ph.D., F.A.P.M., Glen Dettman A.M.M., BA, Ph.D., F.A.P.M.

http://whale.to/v/kalokerinos2.html (http://whale.to/v/kalokerinos2.html)
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Post by: holt on March 22, 2020, 09:00 AM
Sam Quinones Dreamland Part 01 Audiobook (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLNm_H508ug) 6h 57m
Sam Quinones Dreamland Part 02 Audiobook (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsavEiR2PMY) 6h 58m
Sam Quinones - wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Quinones#Books)
quote: Dreamland: The True Tale of America's Opiate Epidemic (Bloomsbury Press, 2015) is story of the evolving opioid epidemic in Mexico and the United States. Quinones describes the "explosion in heroin use and how one small Mexican town changed how heroin was produced and sold in America."

Additional reading;
THE ORTHOMOLECULAR TREATMENT OF DRUG ADDICTION
A FIRST AUSTRALIAN REPORT
by Archie Kalokerinos A.M.M., M.B.B.S., Ph.D., F.A.P.M., Glen Dettman A.M.M., BA, Ph.D., F.A.P.M.

http://whale.to/v/kalokerinos2.html (http://whale.to/v/kalokerinos2.html)
I just thought to add, Lay Z Boy recliner with vibrator, or just a wooden rocking chair. My folks used to have an easy chair that was a swivel and rocker.
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Post by: cranioscopical on March 22, 2020, 10:29 AM
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

(I figured since we're going down the rabbit hole anyway...)
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Post by: mouser on March 22, 2020, 11:10 AM
since we're going down the rabbit hole anyway

Are we not at the bottom of it yet? :tellme:
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Post by: holt on March 24, 2020, 07:10 AM
Cyril Of Scythopolis: The Lives of the Monks of Palestine (Cistercian Studies) Paperback – November 1, 1991
https://www.amazon.com/Lives-Monks-Paulestine-Cistercian-Studies/dp/0879079142 (https://www.amazon.com/Lives-Monks-Paulestine-Cistercian-Studies/dp/0879079142)
Translated by R.M.Price; Annotated by John Binns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_of_Scythopolis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_of_Scythopolis)
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Post by: holt on March 26, 2020, 12:57 AM
Announcing a National Emergency Library to Provide Digitized Books to Students and the Public
http://blog.archive.org/2020/03/24/announcing-a-national-emergency-library-to-provide-digitized-books-to-students-and-the-public/?iax=ntlemrlib%7cctalnk (http://blog.archive.org/2020/03/24/announcing-a-national-emergency-library-to-provide-digitized-books-to-students-and-the-public/?iax=ntlemrlib%7cctalnk)
To address our unprecedented global and immediate need for access to reading and research materials, as of today, March 24, 2020, the Internet Archive will suspend waitlists for the 1.4 million (and growing) books in our lending library by creating a National Emergency Library to serve the nation’s displaced learners. This suspension will run through June 30, 2020, or the end of the US national emergency, whichever is later.

During the waitlist suspension, users will be able to borrow books from the National Emergency Library without joining a waitlist, ensuring that students will have access to assigned readings and library materials that the Internet Archive has digitized for the remainder of the US academic calendar, and that people who cannot physically access their local libraries because of closure or self-quarantine can continue to read and thrive during this time of crisis, keeping themselves and others safe.

More info at the announcement's web page.
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Post by: 4wd on March 30, 2020, 06:31 AM
Simply search on the title and either borrow the book or add yourself to the wait list.

Just a PSA about this:

The Open Library (https://openlibrary.org/), (Archive.org), has removed the wait list for all books during the current pandemic.
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Post by: mouser on March 30, 2020, 06:58 AM
Physics for Poets by Rober March:
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https://www.amazon.com/Physics-Poets-Robert-March/dp/0072472170
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Post by: YannickDa on March 30, 2020, 06:59 AM
The Gods of Antenna by Bruce Herschensohn (https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Antenna-Bruce-Herschensohn/dp/0595149359)
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Post by: mouser on May 18, 2020, 12:55 PM
The Making of Prince of Persia by Jordan Mechner
https://www.amazon.com/Making-Prince-Persia-Journals-1985-1993-Illustrated/dp/0578627310

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"Prince of Persia" was a pretty influential computer game for the Apple II and original IBM PC that game out in 1989 or so..

This book collects the journals and notes of the 19 year old kid who made the game.  Filled with little anecdotes of the time, etc.

Great stuff.

Prince of Persia video:

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Post by: MilesAhead on June 11, 2020, 09:14 AM
For us, the living : a comedy of customs by Robert A. Heinlein (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_Us,_the_Living:_A_Comedy_of_Customs)
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Post by: Xanthodont on June 28, 2020, 11:32 AM
I am currently reading A Pocketful of Herbs by Jekka McVicar.
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Post by: panzer on July 10, 2020, 11:54 PM
Semiosis and Interference by Sue Burke.
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Post by: ich thys on July 18, 2020, 04:31 PM
Found an online full-text book site;
https://www.you-books.com/ (https://www.you-books.com/)
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Post by: panzer on July 19, 2020, 02:54 AM
The Book of Koli
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Post by: MilesAhead on October 07, 2020, 01:12 PM
I am taking a break from Science Fiction.  I am reading the Jack Reacher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reacher_(book_series))
novels by Lee Child (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Child).  The closer to the start of the serirs the longer the wait to get them from the library.  It does not seem to take anything away by reading them out of order.  Currently I am reading Bad Luck and Trouble.

Unlike the Tom Cruise movies Reacher does not beat up a half dozen guys every other day.  The suspense builds to a showdown.  Pretty entertaining stuff.
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Post by: rjbull on October 24, 2020, 03:42 PM
Tales of the Dying Earth by Jack Vance
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An omnibus edition of The Dying Earth, The Eyes of the Overworld, Cugel's Saga and Rhialto the Marvellous.  Although Vance's two SF short stories The Gift of Gab and The Potters of Firsk stuck in my mind, I hadn't read much of his other work before, and didn't realise that The Dying Earth was a foundational work for twentieth-century fantasy.  Nobody else I know of has his baroque intoxication with language and with colours.

Penric's Progress by Lois McMaster Bujold
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The first three "Penric" novellas, finally available in dead tree form (hardback now, paperback due in January 2021).  Set in the "World of the Five Gods" (same world as The Curse of Chalion and others).  Terrific!  Don't miss this series!
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Post by: panzer on October 24, 2020, 03:57 PM
Tales of the Dying Earth by Jack Vance

I own a paper version, but with different cover:

(https://i.postimg.cc/cCZ9VJNy/downloadfile.jpg)
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Post by: rjbull on October 25, 2020, 05:13 PM
Tales of the Dying Earth by Jack Vance

I own a paper version, but with different cover:
Mine's paperback too, but it's quite old, a UK edition published in 2000.  Publishers seem to have a habit of changing the artwork when they re-publish, as well as by country.
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Post by: tomos on January 26, 2021, 04:47 PM
Mort by Terry Pratchett. A nice (and not too big) hardback.

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about 70 pages in -- a very easy and entertaining read so far. My first book by Pratchett. I used be more of a novels reader, but just kind of gave up a few years back. Read an occasional non-fiction, not much else.
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Post by: 40hz on February 09, 2021, 06:44 AM
Mastering Ubuntu Server 3rd Edition by Jay LaCroix.

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Jay has a decent YouTube channel covering various server topics. I figured I’d buy his book to help support him and his channel. And it’s actually a good read. I was familiar with most but not all it covered. So it’s a handy refresher/reference for a server geek, and an excellent how-to for someone just getting into servers - or interested in setting up their first home lab. Highly recommended.

Requiem for the American Dream - The Principals of Concentrated Wealth and Power - Noam Chomsky

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MIT professor of linguistics needs no introduction to the world of intelligent discussion and debate. This book was compiled from a series of talks, and might have been titled: “a blueprint for tyranny” just as easily. An uncomfortable read. Especially in the wake of the political and social dumpster fire we’ve lived through over the previous four years.

YouTube made a full video of it. It’s worth watching - and thinking about - if you’re not into reading books.




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Post by: tomos on February 18, 2021, 04:34 AM
Mort by Terry Pratchett. A nice (and not too big) hardback.

about 70 pages in -- a very easy and entertaining read so far. My first book by Pratchett.
enjoyed that to the end and went for the second in the series -- "Reaper Man". It's a bit all over the shop (almost halfway through). Definitely not as good as the first

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Fwiw they do make nice covers in the last hardback series (and they relatively cheap too)
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Post by: MilesAhead on February 19, 2021, 09:09 AM
Finally reading something by William Gibson.  Pattern Recognition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_Recognition_(novel))
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Post by: tomos on February 19, 2021, 01:45 PM
Finally reading something by William Gibson.  Pattern Recognition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_Recognition_(novel))
I remember really enjoying a couple of his books before I ever had a computer -- or had much understanding of the internet (the reality was pretty boring in comparison).

(Fwiw I only started using computers -- for work -- in 1999.)
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Post by: rjbull on February 19, 2021, 04:21 PM
Mort by Terry Pratchett. A nice (and not too big) hardback.

about 70 pages in -- a very easy and entertaining read so far. My first book by Pratchett.
enjoyed that to the end and went for the second in the series -- "Reaper Man". It's a bit all over the shop (almost halfway through). Definitely not as good as the first

Don't overlook that there are sub-series within the series.  The ones I enjoyed most are the ones featuring the Guards (Vimes, Carrot, Nobby, Colon et al.) , and the ones featuring the Witches (mostly Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg, Magrat, and later on, Tiffany Aching).

Discworld Monthly (https://discworldmonthly.co.uk/) is a great source for all things Pratchett.  You can sign up for their monthly email newsletter.  It's such a shame that there won't be any more Discworld novels...
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Post by: MilesAhead on February 20, 2021, 01:26 PM
I remember really enjoying a couple of his books before I ever had a computer -- or had much understanding of the internet (the reality was pretty boring in comparison).

Yeah.  I never had Halle Berry distracting me while I was trying to write a program.. unfortunately.  8)  It always cracks me up when somebody sits in front of a computer with no IDEs, compilers or software tools installed and types furiously and boom!  They are into the Fort Knox gold reserves.  :)  In the old Dos days debug.com was there so you could do some Hello World kinds of things.  But not much else.  :)
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Post by: mouser on April 17, 2021, 01:23 AM
The Emperor of Scent:
https://www.amazon.com/Emperor-Scent-Story-Perfume-Obsession/dp/0375759816
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"The Emperor of Scent tells of the scientific maverick Luca Turin, a connoisseur and something of an aesthete who wrote a bestselling perfume guide and bandied about an outrageous new theory on the human sense of smell. Drawing on cutting-edge work in biology, chemistry, and physics, Turin used his obsession with perfume and his eerie gift for smell to turn the cloistered worlds of the smell business and science upside down, leading to a solution to the last great mystery of the senses: how the nose works."
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Post by: cranioscopical on April 17, 2021, 06:08 AM
how the nose works
Don't forget Turin's archenemy, Nobody Nose.
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Post by: MilesAhead on April 20, 2021, 09:01 AM
how the nose works
Don't forget Turin's archenemy, Nobody Nose.
-cranioscopical (April 17, 2021, 06:08 AM)

I hear he was a prowd individual.   8)
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Post by: MilesAhead on April 20, 2021, 09:07 AM
Having exhausted the available Jack Reacher novels I have been going through the Mitch Rapp series. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Rapp)

Seems like a weird name for a hero.  Perhaps it has to do with character ownership rights.  I do not imagine very many character name collisions with that moniker.  :)
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Post by: wraith808 on April 20, 2021, 10:52 AM
Having exhausted the available Jack Reacher novels I have been going through the Mitch Rapp series. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Rapp)

Seems like a weird name for a hero.  Perhaps it has to do with character ownership rights.  I do not imagine very many character name collisions with that moniker.  :)

I like those and have read all of them. Never thought it was a weird name, though. Rapp is a relatively known if not overly so last name.
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Post by: MilesAhead on April 20, 2021, 11:41 AM
Having exhausted the available Jack Reacher novels I have been going through the Mitch Rapp series. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Rapp)

Seems like a weird name for a hero.  Perhaps it has to do with character ownership rights.  I do not imagine very many character name collisions with that moniker.  :)

I like those and have read all of them. Never thought it was a weird name, though. Rapp is a relatively known if not overly so last name.

I am enjoying them also.  On the name thing it would have helped if first and last names were not a single syllable.  Maybe I am sensitive to this because my real name has two syllables for first and last name.  Not only that but the end of the first name has the same two consonant sounds as the start of the second.  When people ask my name the end of the first kind of runs into the start of the second and they always ask what it is again.  Kind of annoying.  No wonder the hero is an assassin!  Having a single syllable for both first and last name must generate anger management issues.  :)
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Post by: Deozaan on April 20, 2021, 12:06 PM
No wonder the hero is an assassin!  Having a single syllable for both first and last name must generate anger management issues.  :)

I suspect that the only problem John Doe has with his name is that people often confuse him with someone else.
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Post by: wraith808 on April 20, 2021, 02:00 PM
Having a single syllable for both first and last name must generate anger management issues. 

I guess I should be a lot angrier than I am then. Maybe I should try to be an assassin!
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Post by: MilesAhead on April 21, 2021, 03:12 PM
Having a single syllable for both first and last name must generate anger management issues.

I guess I should be a lot angrier than I am then. Maybe I should try to be an assassin!

Speaking of assassins and books read, I read Sammy "The Bull" Gravano's Underboss (https://catalog.mdpls.org/search/title.aspx?ctx=1.1033.0.0.9&pos=1&cn=393709)  a few years ago.  Hollywood makes Button Men seem cool but Sammy describes in detail how killing the target is just the start.  The real work is using a chain saw on the corps to make the pieces easier to dispose.  A good read.  I got a few laughs especially Sammy's early encounters with the Justice System.   ;D
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Post by: Arizona Hot on April 21, 2021, 03:34 PM
chain saw on the   corps  

"corpse" actually.
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Post by: MilesAhead on April 22, 2021, 09:21 AM
chain saw on the   corps  

"corpse" actually.

I have to stop using that Opera extension that automatically dis-corrects my spelling.  :)
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Post by: wraith808 on April 22, 2021, 08:17 PM
chain saw on the   corps  

"corpse" actually.

I have to stop using that Opera extension that automatically dis-corrects my spelling.  :)


Yeah, I figured you just left off the -e.
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Post by: MilesAhead on April 23, 2021, 10:19 AM
chain saw on the   corps  

"corpse" actually.

I have to stop using that Opera extension that automatically dis-corrects my spelling.  :)


Yeah, I figured you just left off the -e.

 Concision does have its merits.   ;D
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Post by: tomos on April 23, 2021, 01:26 PM
I'm just getting into "The First Signs" by Genevieve Von Petzinger. It's about the symbols used in cave art during the ice age (50k to 10k years ago). Apparently there were only 32, and they were used repeatedly all over Europe during that time.

She sees them as a precursor to writing.

Talks a lot about when people became "like us", or even "became us". Along the way you kind of learn what she means by this: one aspect is the ability to think about abstract concepts; another the symbolic (non-functional) use of colour, and decoration, engraving (initially abstract).
Says "language and creativity [are] driven by the capacity to think and communicate with symbols."

I find that whole aspect interesting -- what it might mean to be a "modern" human. She takes a lot for granted here: that we are wonderful, says that we use *all* the creative potential of our mind ( !! that, in the intro already, seemed like a bit of a bald statement and got me focusing on how she see modern versus ancient -- she carefully avoids use of "primitive").

Enjoying the book a lot btw.

Fwiw here's an article with another perspective "Humans were not centre stage: how ancient cave art puts us in our place"
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-humanoid-stain-ehrenreich
Suggests that people at the time saw themselves as small in the scheme of things (in the cave art, the only humans are tiny stick figures, surrounded by huge animals -- animals that were also huge irl); also that they had a sense of humour (apparently small clay "Venuses" were intentionally made with flaws, probably for throwing in the fire, where they would explode - a precursor to fireworks)
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Post by: x16wda on April 23, 2021, 06:53 PM
Getting ready to start "Alive, Son Of Awake". Brief article on it here (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/05/opinion/enlightenment-islam-robinson-crusoe.html?referringSource=articleShare). Excerpt from the article:

In this age of anxiety, anger and contestations between the West and the Islamic world, many epoch-shaping stories of intellectual exchanges between our cultures are often forgotten.

A powerful example comes from literature. Millions of Christian, Jewish and Muslim readers across the world have read that famed tale of the man stranded alone on an island: “Robinson Crusoe” by Daniel Defoe, the 18th-century British pamphleteer, political activist and novelist.

Few know that in 1708, 11 years before Defoe wrote his celebrated novel, Simon Ockley, an Orientalist scholar at Cambridge University, translated and published a 12th-century Arabic novel, “Hayy ibn Yaqzan,” or “Alive, the Son of Awake,” by Abu Bakr Muhammad ibn Tufayl, an Andalusian-Arab polymath. Writing about the influence of Ibn Tufayl’s novel on Defoe’s “Robinson Crusoe,” Martin Wainwright, a former Guardian editor, remarked, “Tufayl’s footprints mark the great classic.”

Ibn Tufayl’s novel tells the tale of Hayy, a boy growing up alone on a deserted island, with animals. As he grows up, Hayy uses his senses and reason to understand the workings of the natural world. He explores the laws of nature, devises a rational theology and entertains theories about the origin of the universe. He develops a sense of ethics: Out of mercy for animals, he turns vegetarian, and out of care for plants, he preserves their seeds.

...

Of course there is more, sounds very interesting. This is generally not my style of book at all, I prefer the SF that I gorged on in the 60s and 70s, but I have less time and often just pull out the Kindle. That said, my SIL referenced this article in a post and I am now committed to reading this so we can all discuss it when we meet this summer.

I am looking forward to it but it will be more work than I am used to...
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Post by: MilesAhead on April 24, 2021, 08:54 AM
She sees them as a precursor to writing.


It goes to show you that long before there was such a thing as text, there was pretext.  Sorry, I could not resist.   ;D
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Post by: Arizona Hot on May 12, 2021, 09:24 PM
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Project Hail Mary: A Novel Kindle Edition (https://www.amazon.com/Project-Hail-Mary-Andy-Weir-ebook/dp/B08FHBV4ZX/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=project+hail+mary&qid=1620152104&s=books&sr=1-1)

I plan to read this after finishing my current book.

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Post by: velaris on May 13, 2021, 05:18 AM
Hi! I'm currently reading The Great Gatsby although I'm not very far along yet. The book is not very exciting but it isn't supposed to be. I've seen the movie so I thought why not read the book? Maybe it gets better.
Greetings
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Post by: MilesAhead on May 14, 2021, 01:43 PM
I just enjoyed The Serene Invasion (https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Serene-Invasion/Eric-Brown/9781781080924)  by Eric Brown.  Not your usual "countries unite to fend off the external enemy" type of story.  A bit different.  Good food for thought.