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Title: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Deozaan on April 27, 2011, 01:45 AM
Sony has finally come clean about the "external intrusion" that has caused the company to take down the PlayStation Network service, and the news is almost as bad as it can possibly get. The hackers have all your personal information, although Sony is still unsure about whether your credit card data is safe. Everything else on file when it comes to your account is in the hands of the hackers.

In other words, Sony's security has failed in a spectacular fashion, and we're just now finding out about it. In both practical and PR terms, this is a worst-case scenario.

What did they get?

Here is the data that Sony is sure has been compromised if you have a PlayStation Network Account:

  • Your name
  • Your address (city, state, and zip)
  • Country
  • E-mail address
  • Birthday
  • PSN password and login name
-http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/sony-admits-utter-psn-failure-your-personal-data-has-been-stolen.ars

There's also a good chance that credit card details (except security code) were made available as well. Read the rest of the article on Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/sony-admits-utter-psn-failure-your-personal-data-has-been-stolen.ars).

Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: phitsc on April 27, 2011, 02:46 AM
Damn, seems like I have to change my password scheme which I have been using for years now. Updating all these passwords is a lot of work. :mad:

Might be a good time to read up on OpenId.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Deozaan on April 27, 2011, 05:57 PM
I thought this was mostly hilarious:

Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: phitsc on April 28, 2011, 01:51 AM
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Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: jaden on April 28, 2011, 12:15 PM
Those Hitler rants never get old  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Deozaan on April 30, 2011, 03:13 PM
I got a phishy sounding voicemail today:

We're calling on behalf of your financial institution concerning your debit or ATM card. Please return this call at 1(800) 830-1925 Again. That number is 1(800) 830-1925. We have representatives available 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Thank you, goodbye.

I Googled the number and found a site with a bunch of people saying it was legitimate, but I still didn't trust it so I just called my bank instead. My bank told me about an unauthorized charge to my card from a company in New Jersey (I'm on the other side of the continent, in Idaho). Thankfully my bank was smart enough not to let the charge through, so I don't need to worry about trying to get my money back. My card has been cancelled and a new one is being reissued. Ugh, now I need to update PayPal and Amazon and NewEgg and a whole lot else after I get my new card.

This is the same card I had on my PSN account. If you have or ever had your details on a PSN account, be watchful! This charge didn't show up on my online banking statement at all.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Tuxman on April 30, 2011, 03:28 PM
Ehm OK, people don't have a problem providing their whole biography to Sony, but they are in panic when hackers get it too?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Eóin on April 30, 2011, 03:31 PM
Ehm OK, people don't have a problem providing their whole biography to Sony, but they are in panic when hackers get it too?

Ha, yeah I agree totally. Heck, most people wouldn't care if sony were (are?) selling their info to 3rd parties.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Deozaan on April 30, 2011, 03:38 PM
Ehm OK, people don't have a problem providing their whole biography to Sony, but they are in panic when hackers get it too?

So by that logic, if you ever purchase anything, EVER, then you shouldn't care if anyone else in the whole world gets your bank info?

And here I thought you said you were an intelligent troll. :huh:
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Tuxman on April 30, 2011, 03:41 PM
I don't purchase things from ruthless companies.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: allen on May 01, 2011, 05:58 PM
I don't purchase things from ruthless companies.

Then you're missing out on a lot of great shit!
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Tuxman on May 01, 2011, 06:06 PM
"Shit". Precisely.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: allen on May 01, 2011, 07:00 PM
Great shit.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Tuxman on May 01, 2011, 07:01 PM
Ordinary shit isn't enough?
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: phitsc on May 02, 2011, 02:36 AM
I don't purchase things from ruthless companies.

I sooo love my PS3. I guess I would even have bought it had it been from Apple ;)

Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Renegade on May 02, 2011, 12:25 PM
I sooo love my PS3. I guess I would even have bought it had it been from Apple ;)

That seems kind of stupid... If it were from Apple, you wouldn't be able to play games on it~! :P :D

(Sorry - couldn't resist that one~!)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: wraith808 on May 02, 2011, 01:27 PM
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/05/02/soe-takes-services-offline-due-to-serious-issue/

Other SOE services are also offline.  It is not clear if they were hacked also, if this a precautionary measure, or if this for forensic purposes...
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: phitsc on May 02, 2011, 02:43 PM
I sooo love my PS3. I guess I would even have bought it had it been from Apple ;)

That seems kind of stupid... If it were from Apple, you wouldn't be able to play games on it~! :P :D

(Sorry - couldn't resist that one~!)

I guess it would be call the iStation anyway :)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Stoic Joker on May 02, 2011, 03:00 PM
I sooo love my PS3. I guess I would even have bought it had it been from Apple ;)

That seems kind of stupid... If it were from Apple, you wouldn't be able to play games on it~! :P :D

(Sorry - couldn't resist that one~!)

I guess it would be call the iStation anyway :)

Or the iPlay ... That's a fun and up sounding name.

In multi-player mode it's the iPlay with friends.

In single player mode it's the iPlay with myself.

 :o
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Deozaan on May 02, 2011, 06:03 PM
Sounds just like Sony. Except for the humble apology.

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Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: nosh on May 02, 2011, 11:29 PM
There's been a second data breach. But DON'T PANIC!! (It only affects 25 million users.)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/03/sony-idUSN0224988320110503
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: phitsc on May 03, 2011, 01:28 AM
Now it starts getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: wraith808 on May 03, 2011, 10:02 AM
There's been a second data breach. But DON'T PANIC!! (It only affects 25 million users.)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/03/sony-idUSN0224988320110503


It's not a second one.  It's a result of this...

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/05/02/soe-takes-services-offline-due-to-serious-issue/

Other SOE services are also offline.  It is not clear if they were hacked also, if this a precautionary measure, or if this for forensic purposes...
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Deozaan on May 15, 2011, 06:55 AM
PSN is back up in the USA. Not all features have been restored though.

More info here: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/14/playstation-network-restoration-begins-first-phase-includes-onl/
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: phitsc on May 18, 2011, 10:39 AM
Now this one's really funny:

According to reports on Nyleveia.com, Eurogamer, and NeoGAF, Sony's PlayStation Network password reset system-the one just put in place after the PSN hack-has been compromised, allowing hackers to change a PSN password if they know your email and date of birth. Exactly the sort of information that was released in the original hack.

http://kotaku.com/5803070/sony-playstation-network-password-reset-page-exploited-customer-accounts-potentially-compromised
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Stoic Joker on May 18, 2011, 11:20 AM
Now this one's really funny:

According to reports on Nyleveia.com, Eurogamer, and NeoGAF, Sony's PlayStation Network password reset system-the one just put in place after the PSN hack-has been compromised, allowing hackers to change a PSN password if they know your email and date of birth. Exactly the sort of information that was released in the original hack.

http://kotaku.com/5803070/sony-playstation-network-password-reset-page-exploited-customer-accounts-potentially-compromised

Apparently Sony hasn't heard of the put the reset link in the Email trick...  :wallbash: ...Wow!
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Deozaan on May 18, 2011, 04:22 PM
It's astounding how incompetent Sony have revealed themselves to be with this whole ordeal...
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Josh on May 18, 2011, 04:41 PM
How are they incompetent with this issue now? Almost all companies use the same email address verification, or a very similar method, for login information....
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: jgpaiva on May 18, 2011, 05:10 PM
And here's what sony did to repay its users for these problems: Sony details welcome back package for PSN users (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=26787)
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: wraith808 on May 18, 2011, 05:51 PM
How are they incompetent with this issue now? Almost all companies use the same email address verification, or a very similar method, for login information....
Normally, the reset link is in the e-mail though, so the hacker would have to know the e-mail address.  For my SOE account, that's the way it was, so this is pretty incomprehensible.
Title: Re: Sony Playstation Network hacked - All your infos are belong to hackers.
Post by: Deozaan on May 19, 2011, 05:21 AM
How are they incompetent with this issue now? Almost all companies use the same email address verification, or a very similar method, for login information....

Normally, the reset link is in the e-mail, or you are sent a verification code in the e-mail that you have to type in to change your password. That way only the person who has access to the e-mail account can reset the password.

What Sony did in this case was require you to just type in your e-mail address and birth date to reset your password. Nothing is sent to you to verify you have access to the e-mail account. And guess what? Whoever stole all the PSN data also has everybody's e-mail addresses and birth dates.