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I was using the 5 alpha and just noticed they have 5.0.380 beta for download.
I've been using it a few hours. Page loads are faster and smoother than the alpha.
I just installed it right over the alpha. Didn't seem to hurt anything.
http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1482
You can use XMarks to sync your bookmarks without using a google account.
So far the major piece missing is syncing/exporting passwords. You could try
something like LastPass but I prefer something similar to SyncPlaces that lets
me use my own ftp site.
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Iron 4 is really quite new and is merely at version 4.0.280. So, are the changes going to be huge, or why is it version 5, instead of 4.1 or 4.5 or something alike?
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I'm not sure what technically the differences are. Mabye to do with extensions. I know it's way fast. I didn't have any stability problems with the alpha. This beta is even smoother and faster.
I have 4 extensions installed. I only have this window open. It's running 6 copies of iron.exe. But I don't mind. I don't notice any drag on my dual core with only 2 GB ram. It's just fast off the dime. Plus when the pages load they don't seem to "flip" so much. Used to be an effect like somebody rippling a window shade as the page loads. A lot less noticeable now.
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trying it; yes, it really is very fast!
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-however, when I click "tell me about Google Translate" it will open http://www.srware.net/forum/ ??? I wanted to disable the translation service because it is annoying to me, but now I need to use it in order to understand the German forum, so I can learn how to disable it!
;D
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I don't know. I can't register for the forum because the graphic "enter the numbers and letters" to register is a blur. I sent 'em email, no reply.
There's an English forum. How to get the registration to work is beyond me.
I think just about everything works the same as Chrome but some of the data are stored in a different folder. Most of the stuff is in Chromium instead of Google/Chrome. You might ask in Chrome forum.
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I can't register for the forum because the graphic "enter the numbers and letters" to register is a blur. -MilesAhead
-you're right; this really is badly blurred!
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It's not blurred, it's 3d. 5E7SN I believe :)
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Whatever it is, it seems they don't want a lot of traffic. I sent mail to support and root and even through the contact for the base SRWare page. No reply.
I've tried a few themes and it seems like just about everything Chrome works in Iron unless it assumes a google chrome folder location.
But I'm set if I can get password sync. All the rest of this stuff is trifling. It's sort of like Opera in that most of the behavior you want is built in. If you hold the middle mouse button it will scroll around the page etc.. I have to right click to open in a new tab in the foreground, middle click opens a new tab in the background and I don't see any adjustment.. but it's not worth adding a Tab extension to fix it. It's close enough.
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Check out Fanboy's Adblock List (http://fanboy.co.nz/adblock/) if you really want to make SRWare Iron fly. :-*
You may want to copy the original adblock.ini to another location just in case Fanboy's config file doesn't suit you. I've had no issues whatsoever--seems to work flawlessly.
btw on my computer Iron won't launch without an existing file named "adblock.ini" (whether original or modified).
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I'm using AdThwart extension with defaults. Seems to block most popups except for the one on SRWare site itself.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb
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I'm using AdThwart extension with defaults. Seems to block most popups except for the one on SRWare site itself.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb
-MilesAhead
I just visited the main SRWare site (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php). Popup, what popup? ;)
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Here's another adblock Chrome extension--Blocker. It's currently in beta stage, and it's based on Fanboy's Adblock List. :up:
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/epdedalbkhcbhcmcpfglmhngjpgimcmm
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Thanks for the link. If it becomes a problem I'll try it.
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just in case there's anyone else like me who hasnt heard of the iron browser, here's some info from
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
SRWare Iron: The browser of the future - based on the free Sourcecode "Chromium" - without any problems at privacy and security
Google's Web browser Chrome thrilled with an extremely fast site rendering, a sleek design and innovative features. But it also gets critic from data protection specialists , for reasons such as creating a unique user ID or the submission of entries to Google to generate suggestions. SRWare Iron is a real alternative. The browser is based on the Chromium-source and offers the same features as Chrome - but without the critical points that the privacy concern.
We could therefore create a browser with which you can now use the innovative features without worrying about your privacy.
We want our users to participate in our work and make the browser free to download under the name "SRWare Iron" into the net.
What does Iron makes different? Read here.
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Here's another adblock Chrome extension--Blocker. It's currently in beta stage, and it's based on Fanboy's Adblock List. :up:
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/epdedalbkhcbhcmcpfglmhngjpgimcmm
-sajman99
btw, are you using something to sync passwords?
I haven't tried RoboForm. The description doesn't sound that great.
Messed with LastPass a bit, but it didn't grab me.
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Check out Fanboy's Adblock List (http://fanboy.co.nz/adblock/) if you really want to make SRWare Iron fly. :-*
You may want to copy the original adblock.ini to another location just in case Fanboy's config file doesn't suit you. I've had no issues whatsoever--seems to work flawlessly.
btw on my computer Iron won't launch without an existing file named "adblock.ini" (whether original or modified).
-sajman99
Thanks for that link. Looks like when I installed the beta over the top of the alpha, it overwrote adblock.ini with the dummy version.. nothing but comments. Guess that's why I got the pop-up. :)
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is there a portable version for this browser? i mean officially supported..
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is there a portable version for this browser? i mean officially supported..
-lanux128
See link in top post.
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thanks for the link. tried it a bit but it seems that Chromium in general doesn't work with my mouse's smooth scroll. the screen jerks each time i use the mouse wheel. i had the same problem with Google's Chrome as well.
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-must be your mouse, causing it. At least mine works well:
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Sorry; I am only testing the installed version.
I now see you were using the portable.
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could be my mouse (http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/mice_pointers/mice/devices/4259) but other browsers do not have this behaviour. anyway i found this Smooth Scroll (http://www.chromeextensions.org/appearance-functioning/smoothscroll/) extension and am gonna see if it helps.
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could be my mouse (http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/mice_pointers/mice/devices/4259) but other browsers do not have this behaviour. anyway i found this Smooth Scroll (http://www.chromeextensions.org/appearance-functioning/smoothscroll/) extension and am gonna see if it helps.
-lanux128
Yes, there seems to be some issue with newer SRWare versions and Logitech mice.
With the older portable Iron 3.0.197 there was no issue, but with portable Iron 4.0.280 my mouse movement was seriously impaired-- to the point Iron was completely unuseable.
I now have both the older and newer portable SRWare versions running smoothly on my system. Can't comment on any issues with this latest beta.
Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure what change I made to "fix" the mouse issue. Strange as I know this is gonna sound--try running Iron in Sandboxie to see if there's any change in mouse function. All I know is it worked for me.
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@MilesAhead:
I don't know of a decent password sync app. I searched for a while, even saw that you asked the question in another forum. ;)
If I find anything promising, I'll be sure to mention it here.
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@MilesAhead:
I don't know of a decent password sync app. I searched for a while, even saw that you asked the question in another forum. ;)
If I find anything promising, I'll be sure to mention it here.
-sajman99
Thanks. I appreciate it.
Even if they made provision for export it wouldn't be so bad. I tried a few utilities that pry the passwords out of the Chromium data, but the format never seems to be compatible with FF to use SyncPlaces 2nd hand.
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@lanux128:
Some folks have reported that upgrading the Logitech mouse driver solved their Chrome/Iron issue:
http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1115&p=3545
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=278a80df4dc46579&hl=en
Thankfully, in my case I didn't have to go that route.
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Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure what change I made to "fix" the mouse issue. Strange as I know this is gonna sound--try running Iron in Sandboxie to see if there's any change in mouse function. All I know is it worked for me.
-sajman99
@sajman99: thanks for the tips and links. glad to know that there are possible solutions. actually i gave up on logitech drivers long ago and currently am using generic drivers. so i might check out Sandboxie 'fix' if my fiddling with the settings doesn't pan out. btw, i'm using the Smooth Scroll extension as well.
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Aaarrrggghhh!!! Ok, stone me. Put me in the stocks and throw tomatoes.. but I couldn't take it anymore!! Installed Google Chrome Beta so I could use LastPass. Running Firefox just to sync passwords is crazy!! :)
It took me a few minutes fooling around to get multiple accounts on the same site to work, but at least it does. Not as smooth as Secure Login Firefox AddOn but at least it works. :)
edit: the other thing I notice is Chrome 5 Beta seems to load the pages a bit smoother. Not as bad a ripple effect when loading a long page.
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btw Adblock.ini doesn't work for chrome but Adblock Lite (https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ckjpjmhmiffokalpobkilhekmlcgokii) seems pretty cool. Install the hit the "update default filters" button and you're good to go. The other thing I notice is AutoCopy extension seems a lot more accurate. In Iron I had to keep guessing where the start dragging the mouse cursor to select text for copy.
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coming from firefox where one has a variety of configuration options, i wonder if Iron has an about:config equivalent?
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I think Adblock.ini is an Iron only thing.. if that's what you mean. At least every search hit I got on the web how to use it said Iron. So far Adblock Lite seems to work and it's a no brainer to configure. The place in the page where the ad would be is just blank rather than a box with a red x... doesn't seem to distort the page. So far so good.
I really like ClickCutter AutoCopy in Firefox, at least as to how it functioned. But the nag tool tip really got on my nerves. I had to put the original AutoCopy back on. Every time I started Firefox I got the popup asking me to buy ClickCutter. Sheesh!!
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every time when i close the last tab in Iron, the whole program closes. i understand that this behaviour is carried over from Chrome but there should be a fix for this by now.
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every time when i close the last tab in Iron, the whole program closes. i understand that this behaviour is carried over from Chrome but there should be a fix for this by now.
-lanux128
Yeah, that is annoying.
Right now I'm running 6.0.401.1 dev version of Chrome. Don't really see any difference and I'm not sure what the new features are supposed to be unless it's plugins. Seems a tad snappier, but it seems like any time you install a new browser version stuff snaps open the first couple of days. So far it seems stable. Guess I have to see what the plugin deal is about.
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Supposedly this "run once" utility will strip the unique ID out of your Chrome install. The link to it is on on Chrome forums extensions:
http://www.abelssoft.net/unchrome.php
I just ran it and nothing exploded is all I can say so far. :)
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Hmmm...looks like 5.0.380 is now out of beta?
Well, time to check out the portable version and see if there are any noticeable improvements. Hope the annoying mouse issue has been addressed (or at least I'm lucky enough to work around it).
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I'm on Chrome 6.0.427.0. Also up to 6 extensions(because I gave in and started using Speed-Dial.) So far the only weird thing is I get the spinning wheel mouse cursor at times.
You must be running close to bare bones afa extensions go?
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...You must be running close to bare bones afa extensions go?
-MilesAhead
Yeah, admittedly I haven't looked into many extensions yet. So far I'm just interested in Iron as an alternative browser because it's got good speed and they offer a portable build.
Looks like the way it's going with extensions Chrome/Iron will be a Firefox clone in no time. Kinda funny how some folks go extensions crazy and choke the browser to death. I've seen posts on other forums where someone is tweaking away to achieve browser speed all the while running 30+ extensions. Duh!
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If I had to I could probably get by with 3. LastPass, XMarks and AdThwart. The first 2 I may be able to lose if I didn't still use Firefox. Just use the built-in google sync. I'm not sure if it does passwords as well as bookmarks. I haven't set up a google account mainly because every now and then I try to cross sync all the stuff so I'll have it in Firefox.
But the single exe browser is next to dead. Many dislike the idea of running 1/2 dozen processes to do one job, but Everyone hates waiting for the app to get up off the disk. They're all following suit now.
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there is a new version based on Chromium 6 and the stable Iron version is now 6.0.475, i'm downloading it.
• http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1731
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Yes, portable Iron 6.0.475 is running here without issue.
Fanboy's Adblock List now has specialized lists for both SRWare Iron (http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/iron/) and Opera (http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/).
Iron subjectively feels marginally faster than Opera on my machine, but both browsers load very quickly. With both browsers the user can now have a clutter-free (ie. no ads 8)) browsing experience. :)
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I'm running the new Iron too and loving it. It seems to have finally incorporated the fix for image loading timeouts (http://www.google.dk/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=4f4114448b03b409&hl=en), for me at least!
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btw I had forgotten about the Logitech mouse issue I was having because I could use Sandboxie to avoid erratic mouse movement.
I just checked Iron before loading Sandboxie and the mouse issue no longer exists. Finally! Looks like many earlier issues have been ironed out (no pun intended ;)).
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Already 6.0.475.1? :o You gotta be kidding me? Those Iron guys are making it hard to stay current.
http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1731
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Already 6.0.475.1? :o You gotta be kidding me? Those Iron guys are making it hard to stay current.-sajman99
maybe self-updaters won't be far off. hopefully it will be non-intrusive internal updates..
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Already 6.0.475.1? :o You gotta be kidding me? Those Iron guys are making it hard to stay current.-sajman99
maybe self-updaters won't be far off. hopefully it will be non-intrusive internal updates..
-lanux128
It's almost kinda' creepy. I'm running Chrome dev. channel. The updates are so silent, the only way I can tell what version I have is to look in the about box. Although now and then an extension stops working. Still, it's way less intrusive than FF updates.
Currently I'm running:
7.0.517.8
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It's almost kinda' creepy. I'm running Chrome dev. channel. The updates are so silent, the only way I can tell what version I have is to look in the about box. Although now and then an extension stops working. Still, it's way less intrusive than FF updates.-MilesAhead
it does sound creepy since you put it that way. maybe an optional tray tip wouldn't hurt, i guess.. :)
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It's great as long as nothing breaks. :Thmbsup:
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It's almost kinda' creepy. I'm running Chrome dev. channel. The updates are so silent, the only way I can tell what version I have is to look in the about box. Although now and then an extension stops working. Still, it's way less intrusive than FF updates.-MilesAhead
it does sound creepy since you put it that way. maybe an optional tray tip wouldn't hurt, i guess.. :)
-lanux128
I think I found a happy medium:
http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/62116/
There are newer nightly builds but this one is working nicely. I got the zip not the installer.
I removed Chrome 7.x dev I was using and got rid of google updater. I also looked in the
registry for the supposed hidden unique ID. I couldn't find it under the reputed keys. I'm
hoping this means they really got rid of it in Chromium.
I just logging into my sync. The only thing that didn't work off the bat was Speed Dial.
But I copied the Local Storage folder from Chrome 7 and that got me going without redoing
the dials.
Supposedly this has hardware acceleration on by default. I don't notice any difference.
Either it's off or I have a crappy video card or both. :)
Other than that, everything seems to work great. Now I don't have to worry that
silent update will hose stuff that works just for the thrill of updating.
All I did to "install" wan unzip the file to its own folder and make a shortcut.
Some settings I got from chrome 7.x. About the only thing I had to update
manually was the search engine settings.
You may want to get all your extensions running and leave the old chrome on for a few days
until you see how stable 8 is for you. In 2 days I haven't gotten a crash dialog though. Seems
smooth.
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new version based on Chromium 7 is now available.. among others there is a beta GPU-supported rendering. this can be enabled via a cmd-line parameter: --enable-accelerated-compositing. haven't tried that though..
• http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1903
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Ooooooh, thanks for the update :-*
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Yep, thanks for the update. 8)
btw the Iron site is in need of a makeover IMO; it's now been two years with the same boring layout.
In stark contrast to Firefox, Opera, etc., you have to read the small print (ie. Datum: 25.10.2010 Version: 7.0.520.0) to know about the new Iron version. And it's not even on the home page (http://www.srware.net/en/index.php). Man, that's a subdued approach. Firefox and Opera will club you over the head with the latest news/version. ;)
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Latest Iron release is 7.0.520.1.
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php
Darn, why can't they go back to the infrequent updates? ;)
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btw there's plenty of information and misinformation regarding Chrome/Chromium/Iron.
For a non-programmer such as myself, I have to admit confusion as to some of this stuff. For example, this unknown person has concluded Iron is a total scam.
http://chromium.hybridsource.org/the-iron-scam
I don't buy into it, but it is interesting food for thought.
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There was a bug report on Chromium that google searches created a unique identifier "on the fly" to get the data they want even if you erased the unique ID in the install directory by using a utility.
Supposedly the way it goes is "Chrome" is a "branded browser" so it's ok for them to use this unique ID, but "chromium" is a "non-branded browser" so it's not supposed to do such nasties.
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=51693
The above link is the bug report that chromium was doing the same thing as chrome. Somebody forgot to disable it apparently. :) Supposedly it's fixed now. ;)
I guess the moral of the story is don't search google unfiltered.
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thanks for the update news, sajman99..
like you, i'm not sure what was that all about but MilesAhead highlights an important point, that is not to search google unfiltered, which by now i guess everyone would have switched to scroogle.
on an unrelated note, i think that it's uppity on Google's part not to allow the users' to choose the installation path.
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this is a new release based on Chromium 8. downloading now..
• http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2054
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I've been using Chromium 10.0.602.0 (build 68163) for awhile now. I use the zip rather than the installer. Has SRWare gotten rid of extension incompatibilities? I know many I tried with it assumed paths were the same as Chrome and would not work. Chromium works will all the ones I've tried.
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there is a minuscule update where they bumped the version to 8.0.555.1 and since it contains security patches, might be a good idea to update as well.
UPDATE
18.01.2011 - Securityupdate. Version changed to 8.0.555.1
• http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2054
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the new release came out unnoticed..
Feb 08, 2011 8:04 pm
We released the new Iron 9 today, which contains all features and updates known from Chromim (sic) 9. The current version is 9.0.600.0.
Mainly the WebGL Support was improved, you can test it under http://www.chromeexperiments.com/webgl. We also removed the "Instant"-Feature for more pricacy.
There are also some new experimental features in "about:flags".
• http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2190
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Hi, SRWare Iron version 10.0.650.0 was released on 3-9-2011.
I'll probably wait a few days to see if they release a small point (ie. bug fix) update. That seems to be the pattern-- every time I download the "new" version they release a newer version the very next day. :'( ;D
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I'll probably wait a few days to see if they release a small point (ie. bug fix) update. That seems to be the pattern-- every time I download the "new" version they release a newer version the very next day.-sajman99
looks like this release is quite stable. no small point bug fixes yet. :)
i'm going to add some extensions to see how it performs.
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Well I've been using it since sajman99 told us about it (thanks sajman99 btw :Thmbsup:) I've had zero issues.
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Ah, interesting to see PortableApps has released a version of Iron Portable.
http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/iron_portable
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Iron was updated to 16.0.950.0 yesterday.