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Title: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.46.0 - Dec 30, 2019
Post by: mouser on November 15, 2005, 12:51 PM
Clipboard Help+Spell Latest Release

Download latest stable version from Program Web page: https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/clipboardhelpandspell

Alpha version with support for extended clipboard formats/unicode/etc.: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=49490






Watch an older 15 minute overview video of CHS in action: here (https://www.donationcoder.com/screencasts/dc/3ds/chs1/chs1.html)



v2.46.1 - Dec 30, 2019

v2.45.1 - Apr 28, 2019


v2.42.0 - April 25, 2017

v2.41.0 - Mar 24, 2017

v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016


v2.36.0 BETA - May 13, 2016


v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016

v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015

v2.29.0 - Apr 28, 2015

v2.26.0 - October 8, 2014

v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014

v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013


v2.20.01 - Aug 31, 2013


v2.19.01 - June 12, 2013

v2.18.01 - May 18, 2013

v2.17.01 - October 22, 2012

v2.13.01 - July 6, 2012

v2.11.01 - November 13, 2011

v2.10.01 - October 29, 2011

v2.06.01 - September 18, 2011

2.05.01 - September 11, 2011

v2.04.01 - August 6, 2011

v2.03.01 - August 2, 2011

v2.00.02 - April 27, 2011

v1.47.01 -  Mar 19th, 2011

v1.45.01 - Mar 7th, 2011

v1.44.01 -  Dec 2nd, 2010

v1.40.01 -  May 28th, 2010

v1.30.01 - May 4th, 2010

v1.27.01 - Oct 24th, 2009



OLDER UPDATES:

v1.24.01 - February 28th, 2009


v1.23.01 - February 28th, 2009 - BETA


v1.20.03 BETA - 11/28/08

v1.19.02 - 1/15/08
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on December 11, 2005, 03:39 PM
The big thing about this release is that quick formatting presets can now be shown on quickpaste menu - which i think is extremely useful; let's you do things like:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: allen on January 20, 2006, 09:26 PM
Just installed this for the first time -- and am rather impressed, especially for the price.  I've used clipmate extensively over the years and have recently worked with AceText quite a bit -- and have toyed with ClipMagic as well.  ClipMate is undoubtedly a powerful application, but is getting a bit big for my taste.  This application has a lot of promise.  I've already found great use for the text cleanup presets -- mostly apply regex find/replace routines I use frequently cleaning up data before putting it online.

At any rate, nice work here.  Look forward to seeing the other planned features fully implemented and seeing what else gets thrown in.

One little bug--it seems the default clip title contains %niceappname%--which is printed literally since the correct macro is %nicename%.  Other than that, the only annoying thing I've run into are the "This is not yet implemented...post on the forums" dialogs ;)

Features I'd like to see--
--More extensive keyboard navigation.  A keystroke editor like that in EditPadPro would be great--being able to map any keystroke to any menu item/button.
--Maybe I overlooked it, but it seems there's no keystroke to dismiss the CH+S window--optionally closing when I hit escape would be great.
--Ability to auto-filter incoming clips based on text match and/or app name and auto-applying a modify/format case preset to clips that match that criteria.

That's it for now.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on January 21, 2006, 03:02 AM
thanks allen, and thanks for the bug report.
the auto-filter is definitely in the works.
chs is one of the younger apps on the site, and i do hope to get it to clipmate level of functionality eventually..
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: allen on January 21, 2006, 03:53 PM
Fortunately, you have other apps that have done their time establishing what features are necessary in this day and age.  You also have much more advanced technology to work with than Chris did when writing clipmate -- so you get to write it from the ground up with the intention of implementing this and that--rather than having to add new things on to an old base over time.  When ClipMate was first created, a lot of the stuff it now does just wasn't even conceivable.  You have an easier path to make a wholly capable app that's more tightly assembled.  In theory, anyway ;)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on January 21, 2006, 04:21 PM
it's always easier when someone else has made a good program - you can see what works and what doesn't, and what you might do differently.  there are lot's of advantages to going first of course, but much to learn from a good program.  clipmate is definitely one of the best.

actually, i used a database solution like clipmate and i'm having 2nd thoughts about it.. i'm not a huge database fan.. so i'm currently mulling over rewriting some of clipboard help+spell myself..  that's part of the reason that chs is in a quiet period.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: allen on January 24, 2006, 11:05 AM
Yeah, let someone else do the ground work--piggy back off  their knowledge, add your own unique touch and let the users decide what does the job best for them.  ClipMate is unarguably an amazing program -- only reason I even look at other things is the size and importability of CM.  It goes so far beyond the call of duty for a clipboard extender, it would probably be better referred to as a data management solution with Clip Board monitoring support ;)

AceText (by JG Soft, same guy who makes EditPad/EditPad Pro) is a newer player in the clipboard extender game.  One thing I really like about it is that its data is stored in text files rather than databases.  I like this for portability--unfortunately AceText still requires the registry for its settings and registration info.  There goes portability.  I do like file-based storage because I tend to, when I can, open files and manually work in them when I need to do batch operations with regex, etc.

I haven't tried running CHS from a portable drive--would it work?  I peaked in the folder and it appears that most everything is stored within the program directory including the settings.  So in theory, it should be a fully portable clipboard extender, right?

Little bug of course--CHS doesn't check to see if it's already running when it launches.  So launching another instance results in a bunch of database error feedback and necessitates ctrl+alt+delete to kill the second instance.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: kfitting on January 24, 2006, 11:27 AM
Yes, CHS is portable.  In fact, if you download the exe and change the extension to zip, then extract the zip to a folder you can run right away. 

Kevin
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on January 24, 2006, 11:31 AM
i'm going to fix the multiple instance bug this week as well - thanks for reminding me, that is a doozy.

as for storing data in text files - i have the same preference as you, and that is what i've been internally debating about the future of chs.  using database has some real advantages in terms of speed working with a large collection, but the advantages of using normal files is quite significant in terms of flexible and traditional file access.  i've not been overly thrilled with the database approach.   we've discussed before the possibility of some kind of hybrid, and it's something i'm considering.  you really don't want 20,000 files holding 10 bytes each, that just won't do.  so some kind of solution other than one file one clip has to be figured out for holding huge numbers of small clips, when dealing with the clipboard..

i'm still struggling with this issue in my head.  it's been made a little easier recently since i've done a lot of work on a new hierarchical node management gui for the upcoming programs contextmenu commander and launchbar commander (launchbar commander should be out in a week btw), and so i'm leaning torwards a more flexible non-database approach to the hierarchical management of information.  we can talk more about this issues, it might help refine my thinking on it.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on January 24, 2006, 11:34 AM
a hybrid approach might in fact do some of the things kfitting has advocated for - allow the program to basically treat each node as an entity that could be a different database, or a text file, etc.  which might be a nice solution if the details could be worked out without it getting too complicated.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: allen on January 24, 2006, 11:37 AM
AceText uses one file per collection, you can have as many or as few collections open at a time as you wish--so if you have a lot of big ones, don't keep them all open.  Makes for a lot fewer files to process, at any rate, which would be a lot quicker than individual files if it's being run from a portable drive.  CHS is the only clipboard thing-a-mo-bob that can run effectively off a thumb drive, the rest love the registry. . . you could tout that point ;)

Databases are definitely faster for large collections . . . one nice thing about not using a database, though, would be images -- when CHS supports them, being able to just grab them out of a folder rather than going through the loops to export them would be pretty handy.  Especially for snapping a screenshot with the intent to upload it.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on January 24, 2006, 11:53 AM
yeah i have same feeling as you for images and for manually created clips (which probably are never going to be > 1000 or so) - it would be quite convenient if these were simply stored as plain files and not in a database, and better for manipulation outside the program.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: allen on January 24, 2006, 01:28 PM
. . . these features are better suited toward power users and would probably seem coutner-intuitive to general consumers.  But it seems that it's fair to say users of donationcoder software, at the very least, have a favorite text editor -- which says a lot about a [man]. ;)  Along those lines, there isn't a way to pipe a clip to another application and back at present is there?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on January 24, 2006, 04:27 PM
interesting idea - you just mean an easy way to edit text of clip inside another text editor.
this would be something that would again be easy if we used external pure text files for clip text..
i could add a function that saved text in a temp file, launched an external editor on it, and then monitored for changes to the file and update the clip, though it sounds a little messy.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: allen on January 24, 2006, 06:02 PM
That's essentially what a number of modern FTP clients do -- make a temp file, monitor it, and upload it when it changes and monitor the defined helper application--deleting the temp file when the other app is closed.  Could be handy.  In the long run, it's not that difficult to paste it into my text editor then copy it again when I'm done -- only save a few seconds time.  But some times I get a little pampered and expect a few keystrokes to do -everything- ;)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on February 01, 2006, 12:23 PM
updated with fixes requested by members.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: allen on February 01, 2006, 05:15 PM
CHSGreat stuff, mouser -- I especially love the ability to send it back to the application from whence it came without reaching for my mouse.  That change alone makes CHS exponentially more useful to me.   Of course, I have to nitpick still -- would it be possible to have an option to have it close after sending the text back?

After using this a while, my favorite feature is the ability to apply cleanup presets on the fly via the quick paste menu -- Saving me oodles of time there, I don't believe anyone else offers that do they?

Few things quickly.
1. If nothing is selected, would it be possible to automatically select all before copying? Would be handy in textareas as well as text editors where the intent is, in fact, to grab the whole thing.  Save a keystroke or two.

2. In the text cleanup, when boxes are unchecked most of the child stuff is grayed out -- however now all children are grayed out.  Actually, the only check boxes grayed out when the parent is disabled is "Trim Excess White Space" and "Add to Empties" -- the rest, while unclickable, remain bright white requiring more scrutiny to figure out what is/isn't actually enabled at the time.

3. If CHS is open, activating Capture/View/Spell does not bring focus to CHS, though the text is captured properly.  So if you use it, then send it back to the application, then go to use it again -- you'll have to give focus to the CHS window manually.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on February 01, 2006, 05:26 PM
good poins.
0) yes i will make it close after sending the text back, that makes complete sense.
1) i will try; i know i already do something like this to try to guess whether to initiate a ctrl+c or not; it should be possible to add an option to try to smartly do a select all and then ctrl+c when appropriate.
2) ill look into that -  do i understand that you're basically pointing out a user interface annoyance/baddesign or is there something deeper i'm missing?
3) ill fix this to do focus shifting and then auto closing - makes sense to me.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: allen on February 01, 2006, 06:00 PM
2) ill look into that -  do i understand that you're basically pointing out a user interface annoyance/baddesign or is there something deeper i'm missing?

There's nothing deeper, it's just initially a bit confusing when you go to toggle a box that -appears- active, and nothing happens.  Took me a second to figure out why those checkboxes looked more lively than they really were ;P It has absolutely no impact on actual performance of the various cleanup functions that I've used.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on February 01, 2006, 06:09 PM
right, gotcha.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: superboyac on February 07, 2006, 04:34 PM
Mouser, I didn't even know about this program all this time!  Wow, you're amazing, this is a cool.  I want to spend some time with it and figure it all out, it looks like I can really use it.

So you're also making your mark in the notetaking software genre?  Man, I hope you know what you're getting into.  Pretty soon (if not already) everyone is going to expect this program to do everything and anything just the right way.  I hope it doesn't burn you out like the Keynote author.

I think pretty soon, I'm going to start a thread here at DC for the discussion of these notetaking software (unless it's already been done...I'll do a search first).  If we ever complete an official DC review of these softwares, it will be really, REALLY impressive.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on February 07, 2006, 04:41 PM
superboyac, notetaking soft is the #1 requested review on the site..
the problem is, as most of us know, the subject is so huge that it will surely destroy the brain of any human who attempts to write such a review..  seriously it might drive you mad.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: kfitting on February 07, 2006, 04:53 PM
I agree with mouser!  I can't even convince myself of all the features I think I maybe (possibly?) want in a "notetaking" app! 

Kevin
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on February 07, 2006, 05:00 PM
btw.. this may come as a bit of a shock but after working for weeks(months?) on this new hierarchical codebase ive been working on, i think there is a very very high chance that chs will be completely rewritten mostly from scratch..
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: superboyac on February 28, 2006, 12:58 AM
Alright mouser!  You've done it again.  I am ditching ARSclip and using CHS now.  What can I say?  Good job, and I really appreciate it. 
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: superboyac on February 28, 2006, 11:02 AM
How do I get rid of that bubble sound when I paste?  I unchecked the box to turn off the sound when I copy something to the clipboard, but I can't find the one for paste.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on February 28, 2006, 11:09 AM
must be a bug if its making a sound when you uncheck that option.  as a workaround until the next bugfix release you should be able to just delete the filename in that option.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: superboyac on February 28, 2006, 11:48 AM
Ok, thanks.  That works.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on June 24, 2006, 12:59 AM
beta update to version 1.10.02 is now released (1.10.01 had a bug).
has some minor but useful improvements.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: jgpaiva on June 24, 2006, 04:26 AM
I love this update!
The new clip merge is very good. Now, only one small request: a right-click menu when several clips are selected, so that the merge option can be selected there instead of going to edit->merge.

Other than that, it works great! :Thmbsup:

(BTW, i've just found out about the modify feature, and i'm loving chs even more, this is very handy!)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: superticker on June 24, 2006, 06:14 PM
beta update to version 1.10.02 is now released (1.10.01 had a bug).
has some minor but useful improvements.
According to the About dialog box, I'm now running 1.10.03, so I'm ahead of you.  ;)

The new merge function works well and meets my needs.  However, I'm not so sure a new user--evaluating the program for the first time and looking for append functionality--would discover this immediately.  (I don't think I would.)  This is where having a new hotkey with the associated description copy append would be more appealing--and intuitive--to the novice user evaluating the program.  But for the experienced user, the current merge implementation works well.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on June 24, 2006, 06:22 PM
i think an append hotkey is a good idea, and i will endeavor to add it as well.
also agree with jgpaiva about right click context menu.

ps.
you can customize the separator string between merge clips from the options; i was thinking that when you trigger a merge it should probably pop that separate up in a dialog and let you customize it.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: superticker on June 24, 2006, 09:34 PM
You can customize the separator string between merge clips from the options; I was thinking that when you trigger a merge it should probably pop that separate up in a dialog and let you customize it.
I would have placed a merge button on the clip-listing button bar that includes the append string.  The merge button would remain grayed out until two or more clips were chosen.  Such a button-and-string-box combo will need a popup description explaining their function.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: jgpaiva on June 25, 2006, 05:47 AM
According to the About dialog box, I'm now running 1.10.03, so I'm ahead of you.  ;)
Yesterday mouser changed one minor thing in the find & replace dialog, thus the new version numbering.

I'm not sure about this, but i think my chs isn't storing the "separator to use between merged clips" field, as it stays right if i change it, but if i close chs and restart it, it'll be the default one again.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on June 25, 2006, 09:59 AM
jgpaiva you were right - the merge separator option was not being saved..
fixed in latest update along with some other requested features.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: kfitting on June 25, 2006, 11:40 AM
Hey mouser, just wondering if support for different formats is coming for CHS.  Also, I noticed CHS takes up ~12 meg of ram even when minimized to the tray.  I know some people don't mind heavy ram usage... but, even when it's minimized? 

Each release gets more robust, keep up the good work!

Kevin
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on June 25, 2006, 06:07 PM
kfitting - try version 1.10.05 - i tried to optimize memory usage on minimize - should be dramatically less.

support for different formats: yes, it is coming.
support for images, rtf, etc.
as well as the ability to specify some exclusions for programs to ignore1, etc.

i am very much interested in hearing from people who use chs as to what their top requests are so i can concentrate on those.

right now it seems that image support seems to be the #1 requested feature.



1 jgpaiva reminded me i implemented this already
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: jgpaiva on June 25, 2006, 07:15 PM
I've seen this feature on CLCL, and found it quite useful.
Some apps use different keys for pasting (actually, i only know one, emacs).
If it was easy to implement, i'd like a way to specify that if it is pasting to an app listed, chs would use a different keystroke for doing it.

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: kfitting on June 25, 2006, 08:16 PM
Nice work mouser... I feel better!  I will admit to being confused between your post and the changelist what with "dramatically" and "not dramatically" being very opposite sounding!

Good to hear other formats are in the works.  I personally favor html/rtf over images, but hey, go with what the masses want.  Thanks again,

Kevin
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on June 25, 2006, 08:42 PM
oops, meant to say "dramatically" and typed "not dramatically" by mistake.
you *should* see a *dramatic* change in the memory usage once minimized.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: urlwolf on August 09, 2006, 04:40 PM
yay! You made the options window wider! There goes my problem with windows 'large' fonts! Cool!
*maybe another undocumented bugfix* (well, it wasn't even a bug since very few people would even notice....
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on September 19, 2006, 06:31 AM
new version 1.11.01 updated - pasting should be MUCH faster now (hopefully no less stable).
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on April 14, 2007, 03:34 AM
new version (2.13.01) has been updated; i'll probably update it again in near future to implement more feature requests, but i wanted to get this version up because it now has an extremely useful new function which can show your favorites and in fact the entire clipboard tree in the quick pop-up paste menu (ctrl+alt+q by default).

note: you might want to go to your options and change the max # of quick paste clips to something like 15 or 20, so that the Favorites and AllClips menu items get shortcuts.

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on September 02, 2007, 07:10 AM
New update -- main changes are better printing options and abilities.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: cranioscopical on September 02, 2007, 09:22 AM
That's most useful. Thanks very much.
Now I can select as many or as few items as I want and print them to whichever printer I choose.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: DonationCoderTransmit on September 05, 2007, 10:28 AM
Thanks for 1.15.01!

Did you decide not to (or forget to) PECompact the main .exe this time? My new .exe is 9MB :-

ClipboardHelpAndSpell.exe
Size: 9442816
Version: 1.12.0.1
CRC-32: B36D063D

Which is up from 1.8MB for the last version. And it still shows the previous version number (1.12.0.1) too, though all the new printing functionality is present and correct.

I suppose file size doesn't matter as much these days, but I'm still of the small-is-beautiful mindset, wherever possible. I UPX'd mine down to about 2.5MB, but if you did forget then maybe you'd like to update the package (and/or just make the PECompact'd .exe available)?

P.S. With my Theme, the status bar has always appeared, uselessly, as just a black bar, because it's picking up my theme's black background (from somewhere), but not changing the default black text, which is thus invisible.

The fault lies with my non-standard theme, I'm sure, but would it be possible, please, to add a user option to change the status bar font color? Or force it to change to contrast with whatever background color appears?

Thanks again :)

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: Tekzel on September 05, 2007, 10:40 AM
Thanks for 1.15.01!

Did you decide not to (or forget to) PECompact the main .exe this time? My new .exe is 9MB :-

ClipboardHelpAndSpell.exe
Size: 9442816
Version: 1.12.0.1
CRC-32: B36D063D

Which is up from 1.8MB for the last version. And it still shows the previous version number (1.12.0.1) too, though all the new printing functionality is present and correct.

I suppose file size doesn't matter as much these days, but I'm still of the small-is-beautiful mindset, wherever possible. I UPX'd mine down to about 2.5MB, but if you did forget then maybe you'd like to update the package (and/or just make the PECompact'd .exe available)?

-DonationCoderTransmit (September 05, 2007, 10:28 AM)

In my mind compacting the executable is a useless action these days, unless you are trying to fit a bunch of stuff on a small usb thumb drive or something.  200gb hard drives are ridiculously cheap these days, and a PE compacted executable still has to be decompressed in memory anyway, which is the only place it would matter now (other than the previous example). 
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: DonationCoderTransmit on September 05, 2007, 11:16 AM
In my mind compacting the executable is a useless action these days, unless you are trying to fit a bunch of stuff on a small usb thumb drive or something.
So that's already one example away from "useless". Limited disk size devices like SmartPhones, etc, might be another. I like to keep my backup disk images as small as possible too, for write-speed and storage reasons. (An extra 6MB for CHS isn't an issue alone, but the principle applies of having lots of unnecessarily bigger .exe's).
200gb hard drives are ridiculously cheap these days
Maybe for you (and me). But for lots of people the cost of any new disk (no matter the capacity) is prohibitive: those on a budget; those is developing countries; many schools; etc, etc. I don't think it's sound to assume that everyone can treat disks as cheap, however much the $/GB keeps falling.

But maybe Mouser didn't forget, maybe he has performance or other reasons for the change. I'm not trying to make a mountain out of a mousehill.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on September 05, 2007, 04:58 PM
I like PECompact a lot, but i've recently stopped compacting my programs after a very painful episode.
During a marathon of bugfixing for "Find and Run Robot" I noticed that every so often the program was crashing on exit.  It was rare but i spent days trying to track down the problem with no luck.  Eventually i set up a little stress test that would run FARR, do some stuff, then exit it, hundreds of times in a row.  Eventually I tried comparing a version compacted with uncompacted and sure enough it was only happening on the compacted one.  So I decided for now to stop compacting the programs.

Now I should say that PECompact has a ton of options, and it's author is a brilliant guy so I wouldn't be at all surprised if what we are dealing with here isn't a failure to adjust some setting which is only causing trouble for FARR because it does so much dynamic dll loading and unloading of plugins.  I've just got so much on my plate currently that i thought i'd skip the compacting for a while to eliminate one possible source of problems.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: DonationCoderTransmit on September 08, 2007, 06:42 AM
Thanks for the interesting explanation, Mouser.

I just noticed that PECompact has a freeware version too, and I've crunched mine down to 2.1MB now (about .5MB better than UPX). I'll go back to the original if it starts crashing ;)

Just a suggestion, but this topic (your new policy, the reasons, the possibility for users to compact their own if they wish) might make an interesting paragraph in the next newsletter.

I understand that my peculiar status line issue will have to wait at least until quieter times :)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 08, 2007, 10:14 PM
minor update to fix a few bugs.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 21, 2007, 03:51 AM
version 1.17.02 adds new custom Time/Date clips to the quick pop-up menu:
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: Josh on October 24, 2007, 08:44 PM
To all users,

Please report any new bugs in a NEW THREAD in the Clipboard Help + Spell Forum (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?board=49.0) and we will add them to the Clipboard Help & Spell - Official Bug Tracking Thread (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=10539.0). If you see one we missed, post a new thread about it and we will begin tracking it.

Thanks,

Josh

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on January 18, 2008, 07:55 PM
Mostly minor update for compatibility issues, but i also solved a rare cpu usage bug.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on February 28, 2009, 03:42 PM
I've posted a new beta (1.23.01) with some improvements.

I expect to post another update in a day or two so you might as well wait unless you see something compelling in the version history or you want to help test.

The next update should have some advanced hotkey features, and i'll try to get the quick add note working, as well as another cool idea i had.

-mouser
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: lanux128 on February 28, 2009, 06:47 PM
mouser, why not put the changelog in the current post as well in addition to the OP? :)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on February 28, 2009, 11:17 PM
good idea lanux, i will start doing this.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on March 01, 2009, 03:49 AM
v1.24.01 - February 28th, 2009
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 24, 2009, 04:05 PM
Recommended Update:

v1.27.01 - Oct 24th, 2009

Notable in this release is a fix of long-time bug that caused CHS to sometimes fail to paste into the active application, and a new Export function that will save the currently visible clips to a text file -- useful for backing up your favorite clips in case of emergency, etc.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: TucknDar on October 25, 2009, 02:26 PM
[BugFix] Sometimes CHS would not paste into last active window. (...)

Notable in this release is a fix of long-time bug that caused CHS to sometimes fail to paste into the active application (...)
:up: Thanks, mouser.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on April 26, 2010, 04:52 PM
mintor update

v1.29.01 beta - Apr 24th, 2010
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on May 29, 2010, 10:00 AM
v1.40.01 -  May 28th, 2010
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on December 02, 2010, 07:44 PM
v1.44.01 -  Dec 2nd, 2010
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on March 06, 2011, 10:56 AM
I've just put up a new release with a LOT of new features and fixes and tweaks.
I'm making it a beta since there are some things here that could turn out to need to be rolled back.

And if you have important permanent notes in your clip data file you may want to do a "File->Backup Database Now" before upgrading.

List of changes:

v1.45.01 - Mar 7th, 2011

Note: Some of the new things are not enabled by default, or won't be enabled by default for upgraders, such as the feature to copy web url when capturing from a browser; see notes above and this note (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=25973).

Look forward to hearing some beta tester reports --they would be much appreciated.
My plan is to make some CHS videos in the next day.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on March 07, 2011, 12:40 PM
I have made the first overview video of CHS.. Despite my best intentions it ran to 15 minutes long.

The video is: here (https://www.donationcoder.com/screencasts/dc/3ds/chs1/chs1.html).

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ] (https://www.donationcoder.com/screencasts/dc/3ds/chs1/chs1.html)

Next I will be making some more videos focusing in on how to get the most out of the program and perform specific functions.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: bob99 on March 07, 2011, 09:03 PM

Thanks for taking the time to do the video.  :Thmbsup:
Helped me see I should be using CHS more.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on March 19, 2011, 05:46 AM
New update:

v1.47.01 -  Mar 19th, 2011
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: smaragdus on March 24, 2011, 08:27 AM
Nice work, Mouser. Just a question- here the announced new version of Clipboard Help+Spell is 1.47.01, but when I installed it, it says 1.47.02. Is this a miner bug-fix version?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on March 24, 2011, 08:42 AM
correct, that happens when i upload a new minor release but deem it to insignificant to announce.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: smaragdus on March 24, 2011, 09:07 AM
Thanks for your immediate response and excuse me for my typing error. I was using Clipboard Help+Spell version 1.44.01 and now I am very happy to find that in this new release I can select all saved clipboard entries and delete them, many thanks for implementing this great feature!
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 02, 2011, 12:30 AM
v2.03.01 - August 2, 2011
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 05, 2011, 04:12 PM
Mouser, please, for text clips, is there any way to automatically name the clips according to the first line of clip text?  I've tried a few of the options (not all) and can't seem to find that one.

Thanks...
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 05, 2011, 04:24 PM
i wonder why no one has requested that before.. sure that's easy enough to do.

though note that another way to look at your request is to say that you can just ignore the title field (and event hide it from display if you like), and just look at the excerpt field, which you can show in quick paste menu and show in the grid, etc.

so i'm happy to add it, but if you are desperate for it, might it be the case that you aren't sure how to have the excerpt column do the job you want it to do?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 06, 2011, 03:04 PM
Minor update:
v2.04.01 - August 6, 2011
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: Josh on August 06, 2011, 04:03 PM
Idea for a feature, how about a new name? CodyClips?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: jgpaiva on August 06, 2011, 04:47 PM
Even though I'm not much for name changes in general, codyclips does sound good :)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on August 07, 2011, 01:15 AM
@mouser: Sorry I posted this here:
Re: V2 Beta of Clipboard Help+Spell With Support for Images (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=26009.msg257338#msg257338)
I think it should have been in this thread.
@mouser:
CHS seems to be working really nicely for me now, and the image support is sometimes exceedingly useful. THANKYOU!    :Thmbsup:

Feedback and suggestions/notes:
See if you can identify what triggers these remaining problems. [sporadic DBISAM errors]
Belated feedback on this: These errors seem to have "gone away".

Plus, some interesting notes:
1. Taken from the ReadMe.txt file of LeeLu Soft's (http://leelusoft.blogspot.com/2011/07/clipboard-rules-10.html) Clipboard Rules 1.0:
Spoiler
Clipboard Rules 1.0 - a freeware by LeeLu Soft 2011
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clipboard Rules is a unique and simple to use clipboard monitoring tool that can trigger different actions based on the text loaded to the clipboard.
The rules applied only to text strings loaded to the clipboard.
It is a small and portable utility.

How to use Clipboard Rules
--------------------------------------------
Clipboard Rules is a portable application, there is no install process, just unzip the file to any folder and run it.

Using Clipboard Rules, like all other LeeLu Soft programs, is very simple.

The application starts minimized in the system tray, a click on the Clipboard Rules tray icon will open the main form, a right click on the Clipboard Rules tray icon will open a popup options menu.

To add a rule, click on the "Add Rule..." button, this will open the rules editor.
Here you define the rules, some of the properties are mandatory properties:

- Rule name - this is the rule identifier and it is mandatory.
- Text to trigger rule - this is the text that when loaded to the clipboard will trigger the action rule, this is case sensitive and mandatory.

- Execute a program or batch file - check this checkbox to enable execution when rule is triggered and enter or browse the full path and file name to execute, red text means the file doesn't exists, blue text means files exists.

- Write to a log file - check this checkbox to write a log entry for every time the rule is triggered, enter or browse the full path and file name (will be created if not exists) for a text log file, red text means path doesn't exists, blue text means path exists.

- Open windows explorer in - check this checkbox to open a specific folder when rule is triggered, enter or browse the full path to the selected folder, red text means path doesn't exists, blue text means path exists.

- Replace clipboard text - check this checkbox and enter a new text to replace the clipboard text when a rule is triggered, check the "Append text to clipboard text" checkbox to append the new text to the existing clipboard text.

- Popup a message - check this checkbox to popup a message when a rule is triggered.

- Show desktop alert - check this checkbox to show a desktop alert (same as new mail in outlook) when a rule was triggered.

- Save - rule will add the new rule to the rules list and will clear the edit fields.
- Clear - click to clear the edit fields.
- Exit - to exit the rules editor back to the main form.

Now you can see your new rule on the rules list and it is active.
To edit a rule, double click on it and the Rules editor will open with the rule loaded.
To delete a rule, select it and click "Delete Rule"
To pause a rule, select it and click "Pause rule"
To activate a paused rule, select it and click "Activate rule"
Selecting a rule, will display his status on the status bar.

You can minimize it to tray again by clicking on the "Tray" button.

Clipboard Rules must run (better minimized to tray) in order to trigger actions based on rules.


2. Yankee Clipper - YCX <--> YC3 comparison. (http://www.intelexual.com/products/yc3/features/)
CHS would seem to surpass most of the features of these two.

3. Would it be useful to add the option in CHS to periodically re-establish the clipboard chain?
This is currently done by manual selection as and when the chain breaks.
Since the chain breaking could happen at any time and is outside of the control of CHS, it might be worth considering an option setting to re-establish the chain at variable intervals (e.g., 10mins. or 30mins.)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 07, 2011, 10:52 AM
i wonder why no one has requested that before.. sure that's easy enough to do.
Because it shows that way on the popup already?  It only matters (to me) when using the main window.

though note that another way to look at your request is to say that you can just ignore the title field (and event hide it from display if you like), and just look at the excerpt field, which you can show in quick paste menu and show in the grid, etc.

so i'm happy to add it, but if you are desperate for it, might it be the case that you aren't sure how to have the excerpt column do the job you want it to do?
I hadn't noticed the "excerpt" field   :-[  I had to give myself a short refresher on how to reorder columns, too.  Putting "excerpt" as the first column, then "title," "created," and "data size" seems to work well for me.  The new title token %shortexcerpt% looks potentially useful, depending on set up.

By the way, I just looked at the CHS page again, and realised you can customize the layout.  I've not found it very easy, but, how do you "save layouts for easy switching," and is there a quick "panic button" way to get back to the default layout in case of screwing it up?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 07, 2011, 10:57 AM
but, how do you "save layouts for easy switching," and is there a quick "panic button" way to get back to the default layout in case of screwing it up?

Yes and yes.  All under the "Presets" menu -- I should rename that to "Layouts".  Im not sure why it deserves a top-level menu of its own except that in the early days i envisioned people might be switching often between different layouts.

Note that you can save not just the tiled panel layouts, but it will also save the column list as well, which can be useful.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 07, 2011, 11:13 AM
All under the "Presets" menu -- I should rename that to "Layouts".

Thanks!  Renaming it would be good, especially as there's another Presets menu for a different purpose under Modify Format/Case for an individual clip.

OK, I can now Save my layout as a named file, and revert to the Last layout, but how do I load a named layout?  The Presets menu has a Save As item but not an Open item.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 07, 2011, 11:19 AM
but not an Open item.

you just select an item in that menu to load it.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 07, 2011, 03:16 PM
you just select an item in that menu to load it.
Do you mean that saved layouts should appear as entries in that menu?  Because mine doesn't.  I have a saved layout, with three files, .grid, .dock and .preset, but the only menu entries are Standard, NewClips, Last, ColumnCustomizer, and Save As.

Does it matter where they're saved?  I didn't run the installer as such, but unzipped it into its own directory.  However, it wanted to save the layout files into
user account\Documents.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 07, 2011, 03:23 PM
Ah that sounds like a flaw... i'll look into it. 
It should be saving them into the program configdir\PresetViews
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 08, 2011, 04:34 AM
Ah that sounds like a flaw... i'll look into it. 
It should be saving them into the program configdir\PresetViews
I just tried moving the three preset files from user account\Documents into program  configdir\PresetViews before starting CHS, but it still doesn't show my new preset in the menu.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 09, 2011, 11:09 AM
I've pushed a new version which solves rjbull's problem -- though it's important to remember that if you are running CHS without installing it (i.e. in portable mode), you need to edit the configdir.ini file to set the program to run in portable mode or to save its files in the current directory.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 09, 2011, 03:46 PM
I've pushed a new version which solves rjbull's problem
I confirm that it now works as expected, provided you edit the config to be portable  :-[

Thanks, mouser.

[Edit 2011-08-10, 22:22] As mouser suggested above, he's also changed main menu item Presets to Layouts in the latest version, which does make sense. [/Edit]
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on August 13, 2011, 07:09 AM
@mouser: I said above:
3. Would it be useful to add the option in CHS to periodically re-establish the clipboard chain?
This is currently done by manual selection as and when the chain breaks.
Since the chain breaking could happen at any time and is outside of the control of CHS, it might be worth considering an option setting to re-establish the chain at variable intervals (e.g., 10mins. or 30mins.)
However I just noticed that, as well as the manual "Re-establish Clipboard Chain", the Options include Clipboard | Clipboard tricks | Re-establish clipboard periodically. Is that the same things as what I was asking for - "periodically re-establish the clipboard chain"?
If so, then I apologise for not having spotted it before.      :(
CHS is in a state of dynamic change, so there's sometimes lots  of new stuff for me to discover about it.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 13, 2011, 11:33 AM
Yep, that's it.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: TheManRetired on August 22, 2011, 07:58 PM
Hello, I am having a problem downloading the new version, for some reason in Firefox 5 and now 6 it will get to where I click on the location to save the file and then it just sits there and does nothing, is there some way you can send the file to me by email as I can get it there. The dcupdater program does the same thing also, so I don't think it is on my end but it could be, if you know how to fix this so I can get the updated programs I would love it. I also have the same problem with the Screenshot captor program. Thanks for the very good programs. :)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 22, 2011, 09:16 PM
That's really stranage.  Did you try with another web browser -- chrome or internet explorer or opera?
If those still don't work, send me a message and i will try to email you a copy.  But it's not a good permanent solution so it would be nice to find the real cause.
Maybe some security software on your pc?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on September 08, 2011, 03:17 AM
CHS v2.04.01: If I copy an image or text from a .CHM file (Microsoft proprietary compressed HTML Help file format), it appears in CHS correctly as image or text, but the "source application" in CHS seems to always be incorrectly given as the last application you happened to take a clip from.
I'm not sure if this a bug in CHS or a reflection of the fact that when you open a CHM file:
"The Help Viewer uses the underlying components of Microsoft Internet Explorer to display help content."
(This quote is from Help for HTML.HELP in the file htmlhelp.chm.)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on September 08, 2011, 03:36 AM
CHS v2.04.01: If I copy an item from the active window of any application using the Clip to OneNote copy crosshairs (invoked by pressing key combination Windows+S), the area in the rectangle drawn by the crosshairs is correctly copied to OneNote as an image and into CHS as an image, but CHS records it as coming from:
Microsoft Office OneNote (Microsoft Office OneNote Quick Launcher) [ONENOTEM.EXE]
I suppose, but am not sure, that this could be because the OneNote Quick Launcher takes control and passes the clip to the clipboard, which is where CHS gets the source application name from.
Whatever the sequence of events, the real source is lost - together with any associated URL if the source happened to be a browser.
Can this be fixed (i.e., somehow capture the original source), or are we stuck with it?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on September 09, 2011, 10:24 AM
CHS v2.04.01: If I change the settings in Options | Backup/Maintenance | Automatic Filing, some of the items are consistently restored to their previous settings.

Is this meant to happen, or can it be fixed?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on September 09, 2011, 10:25 AM
which settings? This was pointed out to me before but i was sure i fixed it in most recent release.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: bob99 on September 09, 2011, 11:45 AM

I just checked and looks like it is happening for me also.

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Un-checked all three boxes and Accept.
Then exited/closed CHS in tray.  Re-started CHS, looked and all three boxes were checked again.

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Any other settings that should be changed to make it stick.

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on September 09, 2011, 12:11 PM
Nope looks like a bug then -- maybe i just never made the latest version public..
Either way, I know the issue so look for an update this weekend where it will be fixed.

ps. thanks for the report  :up:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: TheManRetired on September 10, 2011, 06:01 PM
That's really stranage.  Did you try with another web browser -- chrome or internet explorer or opera?
If those still don't work, send me a message and i will try to email you a copy.  But it's not a good permanent solution so it would be nice to find the real cause.
Maybe some security software on your pc?
Sorry so long getting back but had some medical problems, yes I tried IE9, Opera and same thing happens with them. Don't know why but it is only this site that I have problems downloading, even CNET's stupid new download program doesn't give me problems and I don't have any idea why.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on September 11, 2011, 03:54 PM
Minor update:

2.05.01 - September 11, 2011

I will try to post a more substantial update later this week.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: bob99 on September 12, 2011, 03:39 PM
Minor update:

2.05.01 - September 11, 2011
  • [BugFix] The auto filing checkbox options were always being forced on.

Works fine for me now.
Not able to report on the other fix.

Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on September 18, 2011, 06:44 PM
Bugfix release, but highly recommended:
v2.06.01 - September 18, 2011
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on September 19, 2011, 02:58 AM
@mouser: CHS v2.06.01: I tried installing this this 3 times via DCupdater. Each time it seemed to go OK, but when I run CHS it's apparently v1.19.01 that has been installed and it runs with an error on Ctrl+Alt+A:
---------------------------
Error..
---------------------------
Invalid docking layout stream version
Just to be sure, I deleted the .exe and reinstalled it via DCupdater, and again it's apparently v1.19.01 that has been installed.

?? :tellme:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on September 19, 2011, 03:31 AM
Wow did i screw the pooch on this one ... i somehow uploaded the installer for a version from 2008.. :o
The correct version should be up now.. I hope that anyone who downloaded it in the last couple of hours can figure out to get the new version.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on October 03, 2011, 01:04 AM
@mouser: It looks as though one of the CHS settings is still not "sticking":
Move from Clipboard New to Old group after every X number of HOURS: (does not seem to obey the rule set by the user)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: tomos on October 03, 2011, 04:50 AM
@mouser: It looks as though one of the CHS settings is still not "sticking":
Move from Clipboard New to Old group after every X number of HOURS: (does not seem to obey the rule set by the user)

just noticed that had changed here, since the last update at any rate. (That was a problem before - I think)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 29, 2011, 07:05 PM
Ok here is the official release of the improvements that have been in alpha/beta release for last couple of weeks; thanks everyone who helped test:

v2.10.01 - October 29, 2011
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: cranioscopical on October 29, 2011, 09:39 PM
Good stuff, thanks!  :up:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: superboyac on November 07, 2011, 12:59 PM
Thanks for the appearance options!  They are very helpful.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on November 13, 2011, 04:26 PM
Minor update, but this may solve some rare random crashing for people, and should improve performance of dupe checking significantly, which is important since dupe checking option is very useful:

v2.11.01 - November 13, 2011
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on November 20, 2011, 03:45 AM
Have just had the opportunity and sit down and play for quite a long while with CHS and its new/improved settings in the latest version(s) of CHS.

The Options | Custom Appearance controls. Wow!      :Thmbsup:
These seem to work superbly, are stable and "sticky". Perfect. Thankyou.
I can now finally get all the visually ergonomic features I would like for reduced eyestrain.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on November 20, 2011, 06:24 AM
Glad it's useful.  If there are more custom look options people want, we can discuss on this (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=28284.0) thread.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on November 20, 2011, 03:56 PM
Oops, sorry.
I have copied the post to that thread, and attached a screenshot of how CHS now looks on my laptop.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: cranioscopical on December 31, 2011, 06:23 PM
@mouser

You're very busy, what with the upcoming NANY and all. You haven't had time to figure out your new year's resolutions, I know.
Accordingly I've decided to assist you. No doubt you will adopt the resolution to incorporate more clipboard formats into CH+S during '12.
No need to thank me, just trying to be helpful.
 :P
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on December 31, 2011, 06:25 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: Arthur Menu on January 28, 2012, 12:26 AM
I just downloaded CHS and am impressed. As I depend on the Help files in the software I use, I was disappointed when clicking on Help for Modify Format/Case to get the message that no help is available yet. Will Help be added sometime soon?

By the way, what I was looking for in Help was how to find a line break - carriage return and replace it with two line break - carriage returns.

Thanks,
Arthur
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on January 28, 2012, 12:32 AM
The help file definitely needs updating. In fairness the Modify Format/Case dialog just got a recent major rewrite.

I think \n can be used to find and replace linebreaks in non-regular-expression mode.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: Arthur Menu on January 28, 2012, 03:50 AM
Thanks for the information, mouser! I was able to do the find and replace I wanted to do using "\n" as you suggested.

I will definitely need a Help file to learn how to write custom scripts.

Arthur
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: Attronarch on June 25, 2012, 07:07 AM
I encountered weird bug (if it is a bug). When Clipboard Help+Spell is running I cannot use AltGr+V, AltGr+Q and AltGr+W. Actually, I can use them, but they invoke CHS menus instead of @ \ |.

Default hotkeys are in use (Ctrl+Alt+Letter) and I haven't changed them. Os is Win7 64 bit.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on June 25, 2012, 07:16 AM
I was going to say:
"The hotkeys are configurable, go to options and Hotkeys tab and you can change them there, or remove them if you dont need those."

But now that i read your message you seem to be saying that CHS is triggering on AltGr+Letter when it should only be triggering on Ctrl+Alt+Letter, according to your current hotkey settings?  Is it that CHS is treating the AltGr key as if you pressed Alt+Control keys and triggering the CHS action that would normally be triggered is you hit those keys?

EDIT:

I see now from wikipedia:
To allow the specific functionality of AltGr when typing non-English text on such keyboards, Windows began to allow it to be emulated by pressing the Alt key together with the Control key:
    Ctrl+Alt ≈ AltGr
Therefore, it is recommended that this combination not be used as a modifier in Windows keyboard shortcuts as, depending on the keyboard layout and configuration, someone trying to type a special character with it may accidentally trigger the shortcut,[4] or the keypresses for the shortcut may be inadvertently interpreted as the user trying to input a special character.

SO:

The solution for you seems to be to EITHER see if you can find how to disable this emulation thing (may not be possible),
OR, change the hotkeys in CHS to not use ALT+CTRL (or add the Winkey modifier to them).

Now I need to decide if I should change those defaults in CHS, I probably should..
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: Attronarch on June 25, 2012, 07:43 AM
Great find Mouser, thank you for help. For the time being, I'll go with Win+Letter.

Ctrl+Alt+Win+Letter would be too much for me, I'm not a spider. :D
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on June 25, 2012, 08:08 AM
Ctrl+Alt+Win+Letter would be too much for me, I'm not a spider.


 ;D
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2012, 01:16 PM
Not many new features, but this updates CHS to my new setup packages that are digitally signed, with an easier portable zip download option:

v2.13.01 - July 6, 2012
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: superboyac on July 06, 2012, 01:19 PM
Not many new features, but this updates CHS to my new setup packages that are digitally signed, with an easier portable zip download option:
Appreciate it.  Still use CHS for it's quickpaste popup menu, which is now the best on the block.  For a while, ARSclip and CHS were nose-for nose there, but now CHS is the king of the hill.  I don't know why I keep track of these things... :(
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on July 06, 2012, 01:20 PM
Thanks for saying so.
Hopefully there will be some more substantial CHS updates this year, now that i have shaken the rust off.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on July 07, 2012, 02:40 PM
Still use CHS for it's quickpaste popup menu, which is now the best on the block.  For a while, ARSclip and CHS were nose-for nose there, but now CHS is the king of the hill.
One of the things I like about ArsClip is that old clips are auto-deleted on number of clips, rather than age.  That means that if I don't use the PC for even a week or two, when I go back to it, the same 15 or whatever recent clips are still there in the popup.  AFAIK CHS does things by date, so old clips have disappeared, and you have to pop up the main window go look for them.  Further, AC now has a Search and Paste menu entry directly on the popup (it doesn't really have a main window in the usual sense anyway).  That has a nice live search, and includes Removed Clips.

I don't know why I keep track of these things...
It's now part of your nature!  It's the DC effect!  :lol:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 18, 2012, 07:34 PM
New beta available:


v2.16.01 - October 18, 2012

Quickest way to use the new PasteAsFile feature:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 19, 2012, 08:46 AM
I'd love to have some reports about whether the beta version is stable for everyone after a couple of days of use.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: JeremyWW on October 19, 2012, 11:38 AM
Next version will have an improvement and option for this, where you can change the maximum excerpt size to 255 (see Tweak tab of options), and hint on clip hover will now show full excerpt size with newlines preserved.

Ok, it seems I can alter the size of the preview between captures, i.e. older clips with the excerpt set to a smaller size will not show at an 'increased size' after changing the setting - you need to 'capture' the same clip again. Also, I never get a full size excerpt and new lines are not being preserved.

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 19, 2012, 11:54 AM
I'm a little unclear about what you are saying -- you say you can alter the size but you can't?  And we're talking about the Quick Paste popup menu right? (Ctrl+Alt+Q hotkey by default).
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: JeremyWW on October 19, 2012, 12:00 PM
I'm a little unclear about what you are saying -- you say you can alter the size but you can't?

I'm confused because your original words were '...full excerpt size with new lines preserved'. By that I thought you meant that if I have two lengthy clips with slight differences, say a few lines in, I would be able to tell them apart using the preview on clip hover. I didn't realise that the excerpt was actually still limited. Is it possible to set it to 'unlimited' if desired? Also, new lines are not preserved. The preview on hover is a continuous line of text.

EDIT: Also, could we have the preview stay visible until the mouse is moved, rather than timing out?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 19, 2012, 12:03 PM
It's not possible in current version, but I'll probably add it later.  Newlines should be preserved -- if the original is one large line, that's what you'll see.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: JeremyWW on October 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
NEW BUG (APPARENTLY):

In 'Notes' 'copy clip to clipboard' (toolbar icon) does not appear to work.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: JeremyWW on October 19, 2012, 12:11 PM
It's not possible in current version, but I'll probably add it later.  Newlines should be preserved -- if the original is one large line, that's what you'll see.

I'm totally confused. I have a brief 8 line letter in Word. I copy the text and it pastes correctly but the preview from the quick paste pop-up is a line of text that wraps when it gets to the screen edge.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 19, 2012, 01:16 PM
a brief 8 line letter in Word.

are you sure the 8 lines aren't one "word-wrapped" paragraph?

try this, make a new word document with contents like:
"one
two
three"

and copy that and see if it shows up as multiple lines in the CHS hover hint.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: JeremyWW on October 19, 2012, 01:43 PM
a brief 8 line letter in Word.

are you sure the 8 lines aren't one "word-wrapped" paragraph?

try this, make a new word document with contents like:
"one
two
three"

and copy that and see if it shows up as multiple lines in the CHS hover hint.

You're right... and I'd figured it out in the mean time :)

Did you see my post above though about 'copy clip to clipboard'?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 19, 2012, 10:01 PM
New beta up, just bugfixes.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on October 20, 2012, 02:53 AM
Just checking: this is now v2.16.02 ß, I guess - right?
https://www.donationcoder...oardHelpAndSpellSetup.exe (https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/clipboardhelpandspell/downloads/beta/ClipboardHelpAndSpellSetup.exe)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: JeremyWW on October 20, 2012, 05:03 AM
NEW BUG (APPARENTLY):

In 'Notes' 'copy clip to clipboard' (toolbar icon) does not appear to work.

Very good, except the above still doesn't function.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 22, 2012, 12:45 PM
Update:

v2.16.02 - October 22, 2012
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: cranioscopical on October 23, 2012, 01:02 PM
v2.16.02 - October 22, 2012

Running this give mes — Error EX11: TableClips: Field 'Window Title' not found.

So, I turned on display of the Window Title column…
and I can see the Window Title in "information about the last active window" (%windowtitle% = Post reply - DonationCoder.com - Aurora).

Where's the switch that will fix this for me, please?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 23, 2012, 01:56 PM
Based on the date of this post I'm guessing you downloaded the latest version but can you make sure you have the latest download -- the problem you are describing was in the previous upload to the best of my knowledge and has been fixed before this latest release.

If you're still getting it, it means I must have not uploaded the latest version..
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 23, 2012, 01:59 PM
Oh and can you tell me *when* you get that error.. on startup or?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: cranioscopical on October 23, 2012, 02:13 PM
Oh and can you tell me *when* you get that error.. on startup or?
Not on startup, on copying a clip (any clip I've  tried so far).
I d/l'd last night but didn't start using it until today.

Clipboard Help+Spell
v2.16.02, October 22, 2012

To my embarrassment, it's not happening now.
Good news, and I hope it stays this way…  sorry  :-[
The only reason for the change that occurs to me is that I didn't restart CH+S after putting the Window Title column on view.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 23, 2012, 02:19 PM
I think it was just an older download.. You are describing a bug I encountered and fixed with the latest upload.. It may be that I'm misremembering when I uploaded the fix, or that a cache effect was giving you an older version.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll hear about it if other people experience it :)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on October 23, 2012, 03:59 PM
mouser,

I've just started trying the new Paste Template feature.  I made a new template thus:

@Paste MemPad note style
%ExcerptText%

URL: %Notes%
[ Web site visited %CreationDateTime% ]

%ClipText%


I clipped some text from the Web.  In its raw form, but cropped to the relevant part, this:
Justin Webb and Frances Fyfield

Availability:
    over a year left to listen

When I used the new template to paste, the result came out thus:

Justin Webb and Frances Fyfield\n\nAvailability:\n    over a year left to listen\n\nDuration:\n

URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01ng831
[ Web site visited 2012-10-23 ]

Justin Webb and Frances Fyfield

Availability:
    over a year left to listen


The red "\n" are my emphasis.  At pasting time, shouldn't these be translated to literal newlines?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 23, 2012, 04:58 PM
I can fix that.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on October 23, 2012, 08:48 PM
Paste template: Works fine.
This seems to be working fine for me. I have not been able to repeat/capture the occasional odd behaviour on paste that I reported (in another thread) with it in OneNote. Very nice. Thanks.    :Thmbsup:

OneNote image clips are lost and replaced by a code: (Intermittent.) Database error?
Occasionally, image clips taken by OneNote are lost and just an obscure code remains in the database.
In the example below, all the images you see were OneNote clips, and two of them have disappeared. I have seen this as an intermittent error before, but had not come across 2 in close succession, so thought this might be worthwhile capturing. It's not easily repeatable.

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 23, 2012, 09:41 PM
Occasionally, image clips taken by OneNote are lost and just an obscure code remains in the database.

Can you elaborate?  Are you saying that CHS successfully grabs and stores the image and you can see the image in CHS, but then the image gets removed and replaced with a text clip, or is that CHS should be capturing an image clip but is capturing text instead, or is something else happening.. I can't tell from the screenshots..  How do these clips get listed in the clip grid?  If you manually go view the image file folder, do you see the image clips there even though they aren't in the grid?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 23, 2012, 09:55 PM
Also, is this a new thing happening only with the new version or was it happening before too?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on October 24, 2012, 02:59 AM
Occasionally, image clips taken by OneNote are lost and just an obscure code remains in the database.
Can you elaborate?
OK, sorry for the delay. I was wrong - or not entirely correct - about what was happening, and it is not a new thing. I have seen it occasionally before, but I think I had not noticed two instances in close succession before. This is the first time I have made some effort to study what is going on.

It took some time to do an investigation of the images and the "code" records in the CHS database. It was a bit confusing as I have been taking a lot of successive image clips with the OneNote clipping tool, but I have made some discovery, and the good news is that:

After some investigation, what seems to have been happening is this:

Usually, this works just fine.
Sometimes, something different happens in step 6: when the paste is made, the paste occurs OK, but a CHS capture "ping" occurs as the paste is made.
If I then (say) paste the contents of the Clipboard again into the image in Irfanview, overwriting the image last pasted, a strange n-digit code is pasted, as for example: (is this hex?)

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]   [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

These were also saved as text clips in the CHS database (that must be why the extra capture "ping").
Notice the formatting in these images.
Here's a picture of the CHS clip record of the last image above, as it appears in the CHS database Memo and Grid.

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

This then seems to be repeatable, a bit like a chain reaction.
I don't understand it. Something is triggering this. I wonder whether this is necessarily a CHS problem per se, or maybe (say) something being triggered in irfanview as a pseudo "Copy" command by a field in the Clipboard.(?)    :tellme:

What is a discovery (for me) is that you can take a text clip and paste it as an image into irfanview.
(Though it apparently loses any formatting.)

[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

I hadn't realised this before now. It has possibilities!    :)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 24, 2012, 09:36 AM
Ok so I don't have an answer but I may have another clue.
I'm guessing that that "code" is in fact a hex COLOR number.

My guess is that something (a hotkey) is causing an application (CHS suggests the culprit is irfanview?) to copy a pixel color hex code to the clipboard.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 26, 2012, 05:23 PM
Cranioscopical, I must apologize, it seems your error was in fact a bug in v2.16.02, which has now been corrected in new version.  See https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.0 for more info.  No need to download the new version since you have already restarted, which also fixes the error.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: digideth on March 14, 2013, 05:56 PM
Whats the deal with CHS?

Did it get rolled back a few versions or something... some how I have version 2.17.01 installed?

So should I install version 2.16.02 instead.

I am confused.... help please, thank you!
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on March 14, 2013, 06:00 PM
Just a mistake in my part in not updating the version here -- the latest version is 2.17.1
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: digideth on March 14, 2013, 08:43 PM
Just a mistake in my part in not updating the version here -- the latest version is 2.17.1

thank you!  :D
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on May 23, 2013, 02:56 PM
Bugfix update -- could be important for anyone using an app that has not behaved well with CHS (or other clipboard tools) in the past.

v2.18.01 - May 18, 2013
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on May 23, 2013, 03:00 PM
A big thank you to Jesper and Hamradio and others for helping me test the new version and track down CHS bugs.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on May 23, 2013, 04:24 PM
Is it just my system, or is there something slightly odd about 2.18.01's accelerator keys?  The first time I press the hotkey then W to bring up the main window, they don't work as expected.  That is, if I press Alt+F, nothing happens, even though the File menu is underlined.  I have to press Alt and release it to highlight File, then press Enter to drop down the menu.  This is with the cursor on All clips in the tree, but, CHS 2.18.01 starts with All coloured grey, not blue to indicate it's active.  If I click on it to make it go blue, or likewise on New clips, the accelerator keys work as expected, i.e. Alt+F immediately drops down the File menu, Alt+L the layouts, etc.

I don't know if this happened before, but I don't remember it.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on May 23, 2013, 04:41 PM
I see what you mean.  I don't think it's a new thing.. I think it has to do with CHS starting the focus in the search/filter edit box, and it must have behaved like this for quite some time.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on June 12, 2013, 06:17 PM
Minor update:
v2.19.01 - June 12, 2013
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 26, 2013, 09:31 AM
Beta release, feedback wanted:

v2.20.01 Beta - Aug 26, 2013
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 26, 2013, 04:35 PM
Beta release, feedback wanted:

v2.20.01 Beta - Aug 26, 2013
mouser, if I go to the program home page, it only lists 2.19.01.  Where's the beta, and is there a portable beta, please?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 26, 2013, 04:54 PM
first post updated with link to beta, both portable and installer.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on August 28, 2013, 02:05 AM

Hi Mouser,

Suggestion - maybe add just a few lines with regards to installing/upgrading?

a) upgrading portable versions  (e.g. after unzipping the new version, what files to copy over the existing version, so it will adopt previous settings?
Personally, I guess only the ClipboardHelpAndSpell.exe should be replaced?)

b) upgrading from portable to installer version - how to proceed, specifically when the portable is installed on a different drive.
Maybe the installer version will overwrite existing database/.ini files?

I admit... I did not try it, as I donot want to mess things up  :)

Keep up the good work!

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: tomos on August 28, 2013, 03:41 AM
maybe add just a few lines with regards to installing/upgrading?

a) upgrading portable versions  (e.g. after unzipping the new version, what files to copy over the existing version, so it will adopt previous settings?
Personally, I guess only the ClipboardHelpAndSpell.exe should be replaced?)

b) upgrading from portable to installer version - how to proceed, specifically when the portable is installed on a different drive.
Maybe the installer version will overwrite existing database/.ini files?

Settings came up lately -
a) the portable has ini files and database in the install folder - the portable download has none of these - I copy over everything from the portable zip - settings and database are kept.
b) the install version - the setting files and the database are by default stored in the MyDocs/Donationcoder/etc folder. Below are the subfolders/files in the CH&S MyDocs folder (i.e. the installed version - but best get confirmation there of what to copy). They would need to be replaced from the portable version.

Spoiler
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subfolders:
==========
Database
PresetViews
PresetFormats
Backups
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files:
==========
ClipboardHelpAndSpell.ini
ClipboardHelpAndSpell_UserTools.ini

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on August 28, 2013, 10:08 AM
Thanks.
a) Upgrading Portable->Portable: that is clear then.
of course only the rootfolder data, i.e. not overwriting \backup \database folder..   :)
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b) Install-version over portable: well, I donot know, I have the portable version entirely on a different partition, in fact in a containerfile (Bestcrypt container)
I first open the container, then I launch the portable version from desktop link.
When installing the 'Install-version' - it should be possible to:

1) select to overwrite the portable version and accept the \database and \backup folder there
or better
2) install in a separate folder and then
   - import database and backup from portable \database \backup
   - import the .ini settings

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 28, 2013, 10:35 AM
The portable zip is made so you can overwrite ALL files; the only caveat is that you should not ever edit the ConfigDir_Default.ini; if you want to customize the ConfigDir where stuff is stored, edit ConfigDir.ini.

If you want to move from portable to Installer, or vice versa, the only thing to do is remember to exit CHS first.  Then move your database directory (and ClipboardHelpAndSpell.ini file) from the old to the new.  In installer version the files are under the user documents\DonationCoder folder.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 28, 2013, 02:37 PM
mouser,

Thanks for putting up the portable beta clearly.

I just copied the new/newer files from the archive over the portable directory, not bothering with identical ones.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 28, 2013, 03:09 PM
Beta release, feedback wanted:

v2.20.01 Beta - Aug 26, 2013

Template:
@Paste MemPad note style
%ExcerptText%

URL: %Notes%
[ Web site visited %CreationDateTime% ]

%ClipText%


Clipping your same post and pasting with this template still gives this:
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\nFirst Author\nAdministrator\n*****\nPosts: 31,430\n\n\nplarker mouser see users location on a map

URL: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=1514.msg336041;topicseen#msg336041
[ Web site visited 2013-08-28 ]

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when it should give this:
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First Author
Administrator
*****
Posts: 31,430


plarker mouser see users location on a map

URL: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=1514.msg336041;topicseen#msg336041
[ Web site visited 2013-08-28 ]

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i.e., those \n are still coming out as-is, not being converted to "real linefeeds."
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 28, 2013, 04:04 PM
I cannot reproduce this -- can you check again and see if you detect any pattern to when it might be displaying as \n instead of pasting the real newlines?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on August 29, 2013, 12:08 AM
Hi Mouser

v2.20.01 Beta - Aug 26, 2013
...
    [Improvement] Merge separator is now a MRU-based combo box list.
...

eh ... am not sure ...

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on August 29, 2013, 12:11 AM
The portable zip is made so you can overwrite ALL files; the only caveat is that you should not ever edit the ConfigDir_Default.ini; if you want to customize the ConfigDir where stuff is stored, edit ConfigDir.ini.

If you want to move from portable to Installer, or vice versa, the only thing to do is remember to exit CHS first.  Then move your database directory (and ClipboardHelpAndSpell.ini file) from the old to the new.  In installer version the files are under the user documents\DonationCoder folder.

Thanks Mouser!

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 29, 2013, 09:00 AM
dcwul62, you found a bug in the merge separator dialog. Now fixed if you redownload.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 29, 2013, 03:15 PM
I cannot reproduce this -- can you check again and see if you detect any pattern to when it might be displaying as \n instead of pasting the real newlines?
Using CHS 2.20.01, c:\NoInst\ClipboardHelpAndSpell\
ClipboardHelpAndSpell.exe   10196152   2013.8.29   8:55.52
MD5 991ac7b09eb41f237df9a9c154ff6723

Using NoteTab Pro (http://www.notetab.com/) plain text editor as the "catching" application, the one to paste into.  Workflow: clip from app using mouse.  Alt-Tab to NoteTab Pro.  Standard Ctrl+V paste.  Open new file.  Ctrl+Alt+Q for CHS popup, Additional actions on last clip, cursor down to my own template as posted above, paste again and compare.

Standard Ctrl+V paste works as expected.  The "\n problem" (which also shows "\t" on occasion) only happens with clips from Web browsers; I tried both Firefox and Opera.  It doesn't happen with either NoteTab Pro itself or an RTF word processor, Polyedit, pasting into NoteTab Pro.  The "\n" and "\t" always show in the popup even if not pasted as such, though I presume that's by design, to show more of the content.

If there's something wrong with my own template, what is it?  Do templates need an end delimiter, or is the "@" that starts the next one enough?

Further:

On the popup, if you want Additional actions for clips before the current one, you have to Shift+Click.  For us keyboard users, please could you make the Windows Menu key do the same thing?

Minor typo on the Paste Templates section of Options: "templlate" should be "template."  That's the last word above the template menu box.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 29, 2013, 03:28 PM
If you just paste through CHS without using template, does it paste with proper newlines or the \n problem?

And can you check if in CHS itself the clip has newlines in the clip or \n.


In other words, do we have reason to believe its the template system instead of something happening every time CHS pastes or something happening at time of capture?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 29, 2013, 03:50 PM
If you just paste through CHS without using template, does it paste with proper newlines or the \n problem?
Proper newlines.

And can you check if in CHS itself the clip has newlines in the clip or \n.
If you mean in Main window the window that shows the body text of the clip, it shows newlines, not \n.

In other words, do we have reason to believe its the template system instead of something happening every time CHS pastes or something happening at time of capture?
That seems to mean a problem with the template system?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 29, 2013, 04:04 PM
If you just paste through CHS without using template, does it paste with proper newlines or the \n problem?

forgive me for belaboring these questions it's just im staring at the code and i am having a hell of a time seeing how the template pasting is changing newlines when normal pasting isn't, so i have to make sure we are really comparing apples to apples and i need to make sure you aren't just seeing that Ctrl+V works but template paste doesn't.

can you make sure that even if the item is say the 3rd one down in your ctrl+alt+q quick paste menu, that the newlines paste properly if you trigger the pasting of item 3 from the quick paste menu (by hitting ctrl+alt+q and then hitting 3) but fails if you trigger it from the menu asking to paste via template?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 29, 2013, 04:14 PM
Ok wait, stop the presses.

I see now your template has both %ExcerptText% and %CllipText% in it.
And you may be seeing that %ClipText% is fine and has the proper newlines.
And that it is only the EXCERPT that has the \n in it.

If *that* is what you are saying (or seeing), then that is by design.  The excerpt is meant to be a short one line thing.  %ClipText% is the actual text of the clip properly formatted with newlines.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 29, 2013, 04:18 PM
can you make sure that even if the item is say the 3rd one down in your ctrl+alt+q quick paste menu, that the newlines paste properly if you trigger the pasting of item 3 from the quick paste menu (by hitting ctrl+alt+q and then hitting 3) but fails if you trigger it from the menu asking to paste via template?
I used the 8th one down because that was a Web clip, whereas the more recent ones were text editor.  Yes, Ctrl+Alt+Q, 8, pastes normally; but Ctrl+Alt+Q, cursor to 8, Shift+Click, choose my template, pastes with \n.  But I've just realised something I should have seen before - this only happens with the title line.  That is, normal paste gives this:

Benjamin Black

A pseudonym used by
John Banville
Search Authors

Search Books

 
About Benjamin Black


But using my template gives this:
Benjamin Black\n\nA pseudonym used by\nJohn Banville\nSearch Authors\n\nSearch Books\n\n \nAbout Ben

URL: http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/b/benjamin-black/
[ Web site visited 2013-08-29 ]

Benjamin Black

A pseudonym used by
John Banville
Search Authors

Search Books

 
About Benjamin Black

(this is part of the FantasticFiction record at http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/b/benjamin-black/)

The rest of the text pastes normally.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 29, 2013, 04:26 PM
Ok so that now makes sense. The %ClipText% is replacing with the full text and proper newlines.  The %ClipExcerpt% is abbreviated version all on one line with \n where the newlines would otherwise be.

That is by design.  It seems like what you want is to simply remove the %ClipExcerpt% line from your template!
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 29, 2013, 04:32 PM
I see now your template has both %ExcerptText% and %CllipText% in it.
And you may be seeing that %ClipText% is fine and has the proper newlines.
And that it is only the EXCERPT that has the \n in it.

If *that* is what you are saying (or seeing), then that is by design.  The excerpt is meant to be a short one line thing.  %ClipText% is the actual text of the clip properly formatted with newlines.
Yes, that does seem to be what I'm seeing.  It looks like I'd better replace %ExcerptText% with %WindowTitle% as being closer to what I wanted.  What I was trying for was the first line of the clip without the app title, to be used as the heading for what gets pasted.

I presume that's why I'm seeing \n and \t in the popups, because they're excerpts?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on August 29, 2013, 04:50 PM
I presume that's why I'm seeing \n and \t in the popups, because they're excerpts?
yes.  well and the menu captions are only intended to be one line long.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on August 29, 2013, 04:59 PM
the menu captions are only intended to be one line long.
End of non-bug report  :-[
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on August 29, 2013, 11:35 PM
first post updated with link to beta, both portable and installer.
@mouser - about 'merge+MRU based combo box': wonderful! also nice the last setting 'sticks' for the next merge.
as always - t h a n k s!
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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on September 01, 2013, 04:32 AM
hi mouser

//
2.20.01 Beta - Aug 26, 2013
...
   [Improvement] Installer now offers to install desktop icon.
//

You also have a .ico file for the portable version?

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With me the desktop button looks like there is no ico or program attached.

When selecting 'Properties' the right picture is displayed though.
When I wish to add and icon to the desktop link, and selecting other icon,
the CHS picture/ico does stick, i.e. nothing changes.

If you donot of have separate .ico  - forget it, nothing special, it's only 'a nice to have'  :)

keep up the good work!

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on September 08, 2013, 04:58 PM
mouser,

CHS has a template macro %Title%.  ClipMate has a template macro #TITLE#.  The two are completely different, viz.:

CHS:
Firefox [firefox.exe]

URL: http://www.horstmuc.de/win.htm
[ Web site visited 2013-09-08 ]

Horst Schaeffer's Software Pages

ClipMate:
Horst Schaeffer's Software Pages MemPad PopSel Qsel Reminder

http://www.horstmuc.de/win.htm

[ Web site visited 08/09/2013, 22:45:15 ]

Slight difference in formatting, but the point I want to make is that %Title% doesn't mean what the average non-coder end-user thinks it means.  What I want is more what ClipMate does, at least where possible with Web clips: the title as defined in the page's HTML, <TITLE>Horst Schaeffer's Software Pages</TITLE> for the above example.  Or, the first line of text for other clips.  %Title% giving the name of the application clipped from isn't what most of us would expect.  If you coders still need it, please can there be a new macro for page/clip title?  Maybe that's the equivalent of %ExcerptText% but with plain-pasting, not escaped newlines and tabs.

Thanks...
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on September 08, 2013, 05:12 PM
Good points.

In CHS the title field is actually configurable by the user.  As you might have gotten used to by now, i have referred to it somewhat inconsistently.  In the options on the Clipboard tab it the "Clip Naming Template".  I should change that to Clip TITLE template.

As for grabbing the web page title, I guess in CHS this is captured as the Window Title.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: rjbull on September 11, 2013, 03:32 PM
The drawback with %WindowTitle% is that it includes the name of the application clipped from, which, when gathering information from the web or desktop applications, has to be edited out.  However, I suppose there's no way to avoid at least some editing and one could probably semi-automate some of it by using CHS's other functions or third-party tools, though then it's two clip actions rather than just one.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on October 04, 2013, 01:18 AM
@mouser v.2.20.01 
With me, check for updates - nothing seems to happen.
Maybe because with beta's this may not make sense(?), maybe the link to the latest version is broken, I don't know.
Leave this to you. Would expect CHS to at least 'tell me' that I am running the latest version. Agree?
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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on October 04, 2013, 01:22 AM
It will not report to you when there is a new beta.
This is by design so that most people only get the stable non-betas.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on November 19, 2013, 12:31 AM
Latest beta:

v2.22.02 - Nov 19, 2013

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on November 19, 2013, 04:07 PM
Very nice. I had been needing these changes for quite a while. Thankyou very much.    :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on November 19, 2013, 05:20 PM
Thanks Iain, glad to hear it's useful.  I'm going to try to fix up a couple more outstanding minor things for CHS and then put out a new official release this week.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: cranioscopical on November 19, 2013, 05:27 PM
Just when I began to wonder if CH+S could get any better... it did! Works very nicely.

I must say that the options panels in CH+S (and others of mouser's programs seem to be growing more difficult to navigate). The demo movies help with that, fortunately.
 
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on November 20, 2013, 03:49 AM
I've uploaded a new version with a rewritten export function.
Once I get some positive beta tester reports that the new functions are working I would like to release this as a new official release.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: IainB on November 20, 2013, 06:13 AM
I think you might need to change/check the title of this thread throughout, and related headings, to be consistent with "v2.22.02 - Nov 19, 2013".
It's a bit confuzzling otherwise.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on November 21, 2013, 08:05 AM
As soon as I get some more test reports, this will be the next official release.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on November 22, 2013, 06:26 AM
Ok it's official:
v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: cranioscopical on November 22, 2013, 11:29 AM
Ok it's official:
v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013

And very nice, too!

Thank you fro enhancing a long-time favorite!  :up:
 

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: michaelkenward on November 24, 2013, 06:45 AM
ClipMate is unarguably an amazing program -- only reason I even look at other things is the size and importability of CM.  It goes so far beyond the call of duty for a clipboard extender, it would probably be better referred to as a data management solution with Clip Board monitoring support ;)

ClipMate also seems to be on its last legs. No updates in quite some time. The Forum is dead – probably to fend off complaints about its lack of development. The developer has gone to earth.

Which is why I am looking for an alternative.  If Clipboard Help+Spell can handle the bits that I use, then I am on board.

But how do I transfer all those bits and pieces from ClipMate? Could take time.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on November 24, 2013, 06:50 AM
Now that is an interesting question.

Might be time to add some importing options to CHS.

But let's have that conversation in a new thread.  I've started on here: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=36599
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on February 26, 2014, 06:30 AM
ClipMate is unarguably an amazing program -- only reason I even look at other things is the size and importability of CM.  It goes so far beyond the call of duty for a clipboard extender, it would probably be better referred to as a data management solution with Clip Board monitoring support ;)

ClipMate also seems to be on its last legs. No updates in quite some time. The Forum is dead – probably to fend off complaints about its lack of development. The developer has gone to earth.

Which is why I am looking for an alternative.  If Clipboard Help+Spell can handle the bits that I use, then I am on board.

But how do I transfer all those bits and pieces from ClipMate? Could take time.

-michaelkenward (November 24, 2013, 06:45 AM)

Ken, actually, what I do with CM is to export the clips to individual txt files (File-Export, tag Name file Item Title)
Use X1 on them .. :-)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on February 26, 2014, 07:16 AM
Now that is an interesting question.

Might be time to add some importing options to CHS.

But let's have that conversation in a new thread.  I've started on here: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=36599

Hi Mouser
Any developments on CHS ?
Just wonder, have you been able to tackle the export issues?
(export clips to individual text files adding date-time created)

Keep up the good work!

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: dcwul62 on June 01, 2014, 06:57 AM
bump
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.23.01 - Nov 22, 2013
Post by: mouser on June 01, 2014, 08:25 AM
Sorry, CHS has just been at the back of my to-update queue for for a bit, but I'm just about to get to it in my rotation.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: mouser on July 14, 2014, 09:47 AM
v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: IainB on July 16, 2014, 04:03 AM
@Mouser: Many thanks for those changes. Though they weren't fixing any show-stoppers, I've needed some of those changes for a while - in terms of priority, they come under "Nice-to-have", or maybe "Highly desirable", for me.

There is one niggly annoyance I find with CHS and which has persisted across migration from XP to Win7 to Win8/8.1: the recent clips from the top of the popup Quick Paste Menu (Ctrl+Alt+Q) simply disappear, and you are left with just one or two default items in that list. Is there any way to control this behaviour?

There are also two unexplained problems I have which seem to be CHS-related:
1. After copying some rich text+images from (say) a webpage to Clipboard, when pasting rich text contents, only the bare unformatted text gets pasted. I have to copy the source material twice (in succession) to be able to paste all the RTF content. This is repeatable whether pasting into MS Word or MS OneNote.

2. When pasting such twice-copied RTF content into OneNote, the result is a sort of "smart" paste - the RTF content is pasted correctly, and is followed by a reference string containing the source URL. For example:
"From <https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=36936.new#new>"
However, when pasting such twice-copied RTF content into Word, the content is pasted correctly, but is not followed by any reference string containing the source URL.

In CHS, I use:

Ideally, I'd like the RTF Paste into Word to be "smart" - to include the same reference string (URL) as per OneNote - but I'm not sure how to control this.
I know the URL and other source reference data are in the Clipboard, and I know there's a switch in CHS to set some of this ON in a paste template, but the latter would seem clunky for what I am after.
If anyone could help to throw some light on workarounds to control these dynamically, I'd be grateful.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: mouser on July 16, 2014, 05:07 AM
There is one niggly annoyance I find with CHS and which has persisted across migration from XP to Win7 to Win8/8.1: the recent clips from the top of the popup Quick Paste Menu (Ctrl+Alt+Q) simply disappear, and you are left with just one or two default items in that list. Is there any way to control this behaviour?

You are seeing the default behavior of CHS, which is to only show on that menu recent clips from the last few days.
You can find instructions on changing that in this post: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=4134.msg357920#msg357920
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: mouser on July 16, 2014, 05:09 AM
Ideally, I'd like the RTF Paste into Word to be "smart"
The RTF paste is a current limitation of CHS -- in that it only stores text and images, and not more elaborate clipboard datatypes.  That is on my todo list to improve.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: IainB on July 16, 2014, 06:23 AM
Ideally, I'd like the RTF Paste into Word to be "smart"
The RTF paste is a current limitation of CHS -- in that it only stores text and images, and not more elaborate clipboard datatypes.  That is on my todo list to improve.

Yes, that was what I thought, but I could not figure out how come the "smart" paste works into OneNote but not into Word. Are not both pastes being made by CHS? Maybe I misunderstand how it works.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: IainB on July 16, 2014, 06:36 AM
There is one niggly annoyance I find with CHS and which has persisted across migration from XP to Win7 to Win8/8.1: the recent clips from the top of the popup Quick Paste Menu (Ctrl+Alt+Q) simply disappear, and you are left with just one or two default items in that list. Is there any way to control this behaviour?

You are seeing the default behavior of CHS, which is to only show on that menu recent clips from the last few days.
You can find instructions on changing that in this post: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=4134.msg357920#msg357920

Got it. Very simple once it's pointed out. Many thanks:
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To change the default behavior that only shows recent clips on the quick paste pop-up menu, it's a bit trickier -- unnecessarily complex i would agree: On the menu window right click on the "Quick Paste" group, and choose "Edit this Group", then in the box next to SQL, you can DELETE the phrase "AND CreationDateTime > DateTimeMinusOneDay" or perhaps change it to "AND CreationDateTime > DateTimeMinusThirtyDays"

Mine had been set (I guess as the default) to "=DateTimeMinusOneHour".
I changed it to "=DateTimeMinusThreeDays". I shall see how that goes.
It reminded me that CHS has got some pretty nifty features buried away in the back room.   :Thmbsup:
I must explore it some more...
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: mouser on July 16, 2014, 06:44 AM
Yes, that was what I thought, but I could not figure out how come the "smart" paste works into OneNote but not into Word. Are not both pastes being made by CHS?


First thing to try always, is just copying and pasting using normal windows clipboard, Ctrl+C followed by Ctrl+V.

When you do that, CHS is totally out of the loop.  So that will show you what the programs can really put on, and retrieve from, the clipboard.  Some programs can put multiple versions of a clip into the clipboard, some versions with extra information that only certain applications know how to handle when it is pasted.

Once you do that, you might find that some applications put extra information into the clipboard that CHS does not perceive or store.  If you copy something to the clipboard (Ctrl+C) but then later paste it using the CHS quick paste menu, then you will see what CHS puts on the clipboard during the paste operation, and if it's less than a native Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: IainB on July 16, 2014, 07:21 PM
There is one niggly annoyance I find with CHS and which has persisted across migration from XP to Win7 to Win8/8.1: the recent clips from the top of the popup Quick Paste Menu (Ctrl+Alt+Q) simply disappear, and you are left with just one or two default items in that list. Is there any way to control this behaviour?

You are seeing the default behavior of CHS, which is to only show on that menu recent clips from the last few days.
You can find instructions on changing that in this post: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=4134.msg357920#msg357920

Got it. Very simple once it's pointed out. Many thanks:
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To change the default behavior that only shows recent clips on the quick paste pop-up menu, it's a bit trickier -- unnecessarily complex i would agree: On the menu window right click on the "Quick Paste" group, and choose "Edit this Group", then in the box next to SQL, you can DELETE the phrase "AND CreationDateTime > DateTimeMinusOneDay" or perhaps change it to "AND CreationDateTime > DateTimeMinusThirtyDays"

Mine had been set (I guess as the default) to "=DateTimeMinusOneHour".
I changed it to "=DateTimeMinusThreeDays". I shall see how that goes.
It reminded me that CHS has got some pretty nifty features buried away in the back room.   :Thmbsup:
I must explore it some more...

Just a note for posterity, to record that the edit/change (above) to the virtual folder called "Quick Paste" does not work and produces the error:
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Error DBG109: DBISAM Engine Error # 11949 SQL parsing error -
Expected column name but instead found DateTimeMinusThreeDays in
SELECT SQL statement at line I, column 226
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That appears to be because you can only put certain fixed, predefined date/time field names into the SQL, and "=DateTimeMinusThreeDays" is not one of them, as per the note in that particular virtual folder, which says (my emphasis):
A virtual folder shows the contents of all other folders, as filtered by an
sql conditional expression based on database fields.  You can use a
virtual folder for example to show all entries in a certain date range, or
just clips marked favorites, or clips from certain groups, or any
combination.

ex.: IsFavorite=true AND Application like ultraedit

You can also use some special fields to test for special folders:
IsInRecyleBin, IsInClipboard, IsInClipboardNew , IsInClipboardOld ,
IsInFavorites

And some special date/time fields: DateTimeCurrent ,
DateTimeMinusThirtyMinutes , DateTimeMinusOneHour ,
DateTimeMinusSixHours , DateTimeMinusTwelveHours ,
DateTimeMinusOneDay ,DateTimeMinusTwoDays ,
DateTimeMinusFiveDays, DateTimeMinusSevenDays ,
DateTimeMinusFourteenDays, DateTimeMinusThirtyDays


ex. ModificationDateTime > DateTimeMinusTwoDays  AND NOT
IsInRecycleBin will show all items added in the last two weeks that is
not currently in the recyclebin subtree.

So I plumped for"=DateTimeMinusTwoDays", which seems to be working fine for my needs, at present.

Yours truly, of course, did not read/register the full import of the above information before making the initial change. If I had, then I would not have created the error.
More haste, less speed...    :-[
One is fortunate if one learns something new every day.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: mouser on July 16, 2014, 07:28 PM
you could put in a custom date expression if you wanted to get a very specific time period.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: IainB on July 16, 2014, 08:00 PM
Yes, that was what I thought, but I could not figure out how come the "smart" paste works into OneNote but not into Word. Are not both pastes being made by CHS?


First thing to try always, is just copying and pasting using normal windows clipboard, Ctrl+C followed by Ctrl+V.

When you do that, CHS is totally out of the loop.  So that will show you what the programs can really put on, and retrieve from, the clipboard.  Some programs can put multiple versions of a clip into the clipboard, some versions with extra information that only certain applications know how to handle when it is pasted.

Once you do that, you might find that some applications put extra information into the clipboard that CHS does not perceive or store.  If you copy something to the clipboard (Ctrl+C) but then later paste it using the CHS quick paste menu, then you will see what CHS puts on the clipboard during the paste operation, and if it's less than a native Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V.

Yes. You are right, of course.
As a test, I shut down CHS, and tried the copy/paste and the copy-copy/paste, copying from a web page in Firefox and pasting into OneNote and Word.
The result:

OneNote always specially formats URLs pasted into it, and in this case it presumably collects the URL from the Clipboard (which contains all the available data about the clip), puts angle brackets around it, formats it and precedes it with a formatted text string "From ".

In Firefox, the first Copy is a result of auto-copy on mouse-selected text. The second copy is made using Ctrl-C. If I copy from a webpage in IE, there is no function for auto-copy on mouse-selected text, so the first and second copies are made using Ctrl+C. So there are evidently idiosyncrasies in the browsers. Also, pasting from IE takes a lot longer (even has a progress bar) than from Firefox, which is almost instantaneous.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: IainB on July 16, 2014, 08:01 PM
you could put in a custom date expression if you wanted to get a very specific time period.

Thanks. Could you give me an example please?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: mouser on July 16, 2014, 08:14 PM
I think something like this would work

AND CreationDateTime > DateTimeCurrent-3

I *THINK* that would work and give you three days back.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: IainB on July 17, 2014, 04:14 AM
^^ Thanks. That errors out - doesn't seem to work - though it looks like it should.
I don't know what the syntax/rules are for this.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: mouser on July 17, 2014, 07:50 AM
I'll have to play with it and report.. sometimes I feel like I don't know my own software   :-[
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.24.01 - July 14, 2014
Post by: dcwul62 on August 03, 2014, 02:09 AM
Mouser, thanks for the update.
have you been able to check the issues reported in posts

- Suggestion: Updated Find and Replace
- Export to single .txt files (adding date-time)
- Export to txt-Import into Excel-some minor flaws

keep up the good work!
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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.25.01 Beta - Oct 4, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 04, 2014, 04:55 PM
v2.25.04 Beta - October 5, 2014
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.25.03 Beta - Oct 5, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 05, 2014, 02:41 PM
I've added a couple of important features to the beta; i'd appreciate any bug reports.

New stuff:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.25.03 Beta - Oct 5, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 05, 2014, 03:16 PM
I'm going to try to make a couple more screencast videos about CHS and maybe redo the old introductory video.  Just going over tips and tricks and some of the more unusual features.  Let me know if there are some features or operations you'd like me to hit on.

Old existing screencasts are here: https://www.donationcoder.com/screencasts/chs
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.25.04 Beta - Oct 5, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 05, 2014, 11:27 PM
I've made a bunch of improvements that could hypothetically cause problems, so i'd love to hear more reports of beta testers before i release this one as official.  anyone?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 08, 2014, 02:34 AM
v2.26.0 is official.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: tomos on October 08, 2014, 05:11 AM
Only got to update today: Win7 x64

I had long ago removed the hotkey to open the main window - the toggle key tempted me to add it again:
All other letter are working fiine as shortcuts, and the 'W is working correctly otherwise

It is a German keyboard which should not make any difference -
Spoiler
maybe it's pronouncing the 'W' with a German accent? (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/WHISTLE.GIF) :-[


(Note: Ctrl+Alt+W was previously being used by Popup quotes, so I removed it there and closed popup quotes - but the problem remained)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 08, 2014, 05:13 AM
works fine here -- i wonder if you dont have some other tool that has assigned alt+w and is catching it..
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: tomos on October 08, 2014, 05:26 AM
works fine here -- i wonder if you dont have some other tool that has assigned alt+w and is catching it..

yeah, thanks for checking - it's actually nothing to do with CH+S:
As a hotkey, Ctrl+Alt+W also changes to Ctrl+Alt+V in other apps :o

I'm looking at my AHK file but I havent modified that in years...
will pursue in own thread if I need more help with it.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: Armando on October 09, 2014, 02:04 AM
v2.26.0 is official.

Many thanks! :-*
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: dcwul62 on October 09, 2014, 09:07 AM
As always, many thanks Mouser... :Thmbsup:
Tiny thing...
The help file:

It does display anything.
Does it have something to do with Norton or MBAM or what...?

Don't have a clue...  :(

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 09, 2014, 09:22 AM
Are you using the portable version of CHS?

Windows sometimes does a very messed up thing with .chm help files you download from the internet, it silently marks them as untrusted and "blocks" the help file and refuses to display any contents in them, while not telling you what it is doing.

If this ever happens to you, right-click on the .chm help file in your file explorer, choose file properties from the menu, and you should see an "Unblock" button you can press to fix the problem.

More info and screenshots of unblocking process here: http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/B59D2B24D624B823862575FC0056F3D0
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: dcwul62 on October 09, 2014, 09:34 AM
Ah!

Many thanks Mouser, that solved it.
Also many thanks for the quick reply.

ps  : yes, I am indeed using the portable version


Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: Armando on October 09, 2014, 06:10 PM
Can DCUpdater detect CH+S original "installation" folder, even if CH+S is used in "portable mode" ? Just asking as -- without noticing -- I let DCUpdater install a separate instance of CH+S. Uninstalled it right after, of course.

I might have missed something: to update the portable "version", should I just download it and unpack it in the folder where it resides ? Or should I use the updater and just change the installation folder path?

(No rush)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 09, 2014, 06:18 PM
Can DCUpdater detect CH+S original "installation" folder, even if CH+S is used in "portable mode" ?


No; DCUpdater can *not* be used for portable installs.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: Armando on October 10, 2014, 01:50 AM
Thanks mouser. Of course, that's what I thought. Strangely though, DCUpdater offered to update CH+S which is in portable mode.I don't know how that happened.

At that point, I didn't remember my CH+S install was portable, so I agreed to update... but I quickly remembered when the newly CH+S started with an empty DB (as there was now 2 CH+S installed). A first "Oh my... what happened" followed by "hmmm... maybe it just installed a new version somewhere else".
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 10, 2014, 10:00 AM
Ah.. yes I hadn't anticipated the use of DcUpdater in portable installs.  I'm going to have to cogitate on this one a bit.. The best advice for now is to uninstall DcUpdater if you are using portable installs.  The new versions of my tools don't need DcUpdater to check for updates, they will check and report when updates are available even without it.  The only thing DcUpdater really buys you is that it will automatically download and run the new installer, wheras without it you are just taking to the website.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: Armando on October 10, 2014, 02:29 PM
OK, thanks mouser.  Maybe DCUpdater should then only check those apps that really depend on it (if any) to get updated -- like older versions of your tools.
For all others, when they check if there's an update or not : if they're portable, the users are taken to the website, if they're not, DCUpdater is started, etc. Or something like that... Whatever. Thanks again!
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: dcwul62 on October 10, 2014, 11:44 PM

Please allow me to comment on the matter of updating a portable version.

As for me, I am using a 3rd party tool (Beyond Compare) to do a foldercompare of the existing portable version with the new, extracted folder and only update what is necessary, such as the .exe or .chm files.
Folders like Backups, Database, Presetviews and .ini, .dat files, i.e. 'user'-files/folders to be skipped.

Maybe, one time in future, a small 'PortableUpdater' cud be added?
Or
Alternatively have a portable update zip, containing the changed files and folders only?

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: rjbull on October 12, 2014, 04:26 PM
As for me, I am using a 3rd party tool (Beyond Compare) to do a foldercompare of the existing portable version with the new, extracted folder and only update what is necessary
Why not use an unarchiver that checks for new/changed files?  I use the one built into my favourite file manager, Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/).  It gives various options, a particularly useful one being Overwrite all older.

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: dcwul62 on October 13, 2014, 04:49 AM
Yes, there definitely are a number of tools around doing the same thing.
It is a matter of personal taste I suppose.

I donot use Total Commander, but Directory Opus.
Just counted the number of clicks to get to  the below view (around 13). It does not support drag and drop, so you have to
click, click, expand, click ... to select folder 1 and click,click, click... to select folder 2.
On top I need to do some window resizing to see the differences, etc.
After the job that I again need to some extra clicks to close the view and and resize window panels back to normal again.

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Now within Beyond Compare the steps are kept to an absolute minimum. Rightclick folder 1, right click folder b, compare is launched.

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all that said, I guess for Mouser it is not a big issue to create a portable update or something  :-)




Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: IainB on October 19, 2014, 05:19 PM
@rjbull and @dcwul62: If you open the .ZIP file for the latest portable version and then select and copy all its contents to the installed portable proggie's folder, doesn't Windows Explorer check first and ask you if you want to install newer/older versions and/or overwrite, etc.?
I use xplorer² which enables file comparison and all that sort of thing too, but it is not necessary for updating "portable" proggie folders, since Windows Explorer does the folder contents compare by default, before copying files across. This is on Win8.1 PRO-64, but I think it was just the same on Win7.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: IainB on October 19, 2014, 05:25 PM
@mouser: DCUpdater apparently thinks the CHS version on the web is older than the installed version 2.26.0:

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: rjbull on October 20, 2014, 03:13 PM
@rjbull and @dcwul62: If you open the .ZIP file for the latest portable version and then select and copy all its contents to the installed portable proggie's folder, doesn't Windows Explorer check first and ask you if you want to install newer/older versions and/or overwrite, etc.?
I wouldn't know.  As I wrote, I use the much superior Total Commander  :)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: mouser on October 20, 2014, 03:21 PM
Thanks Iain, i need to update the update file :)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: IainB on October 20, 2014, 04:16 PM
...I wouldn't know.  As I wrote, I use the much superior Total Commander  :)
...Eh? Misses the point.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: rjbull on October 21, 2014, 02:54 PM
...I wouldn't know.  As I wrote, I use the much superior Total Commander  :)
...Eh? Misses the point.
My first post made the point, not very explicitly perhaps, that there's no "need" to make downloads of CHS that only contain updated files (which is what I understood the OP to want) when one can rely on a good file manager to overwrite new/changed files and ignore the rest.  Unless, of course, one is on dialup and really, really wants to minimise download size.  I have been in the habit - for about 15 years - of using Total Commander for my file management needs, and almost never use Windows Explorer, so don't know what it offers.  I imagine most frequent PC users do likewise.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: Paul1149 on October 26, 2014, 01:06 PM
I guess this is the place to report a bug? But I will not be able to follow this thread.

Formatting presets are not working in latest version (2.26.0). I have several case changes and html tag inserts, triggered by Ctrl-Alt-NUM {x}. The only one that has worked - once - is the Ctrl-Alt-NUM 5 preset, which happens to be Title Case.

Also, if I may, a suggestion. I would like to see the dialog for formatting presets right off the main options window. It could have a list of all the presets in a left pane, and all their parameters in a right pane. There could be a Save control in the right, which would not close the dialog. It took me a long time to find where the presets were, and then longer to figure out how to work with them.

I can only follow this thread for a couple of days.

Thanks!
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: mouser on November 01, 2014, 06:18 AM
Formatting presets are not working in latest version
they seem to be working well for me -- anyone else with this problem?

Also, if I may, a suggestion. I would like to see the dialog for formatting presets right off the main options window.
this is a good idea -- putting it on my todo list.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.26.0 - Oct 8, 2014
Post by: Paul1149 on November 01, 2014, 03:47 PM
I have to admit, I just tried it again and it seems to be working fine. Can't figure that one out.

Thanks for your reply,
Paul

BTW, just acquainting myself with FRR. Awesome piece of work. I'm going to deploy it on my laptop refurbs.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.27.0 BETA - Dec 19, 2014
Post by: mouser on December 20, 2014, 11:11 AM
v2.27.0 BETA - Dec 19, 2014
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.28.0 BETA - Apr 23, 2015
Post by: mouser on April 23, 2015, 10:32 AM
v2.28.0 - Apr 23, 2015
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.29.0 - Apr 28, 2015
Post by: mouser on April 28, 2015, 01:25 AM
v2.29.0 - Apr 28, 2015
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.29.0 - Apr 28, 2015
Post by: IainB on May 09, 2015, 10:55 AM
On 2015-05-09 using CHS v2.29.0, I got a spurious error:
Access violation at address 0080DF94 in module
'ClipboardHeIpAndSpeII.exe'. Read of address 00000008.


I was busy editing notes in CHS at the time.
The error did not stop the CHS process, but I closed CHS down and restarted it anyway, just in case, and then got CHS to Verify, Repair, Optimize database .
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.31.0 - Sep 15, 2015
Post by: mouser on September 13, 2015, 03:00 PM
v2.31.0 Beta - Sep 15, 2015
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.31.0 - Sep 15, 2015
Post by: IainB on September 14, 2015, 03:22 AM
@mouser: Just installed this. Thanks.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 BETA - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: mouser on November 01, 2015, 09:10 PM
New beta up, would appreciate feedback:

v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 BETA - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: IainB on November 02, 2015, 02:29 AM
@mouser: Just installed ClipboardHelpAndSpellSetup (v2.32.0 beta 2015-11-01).
Thanks for the changes/fixes.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 BETA - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: mouser on November 04, 2015, 11:03 AM
I'd like to release a new official update if no one finds any new bugs with the beta.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 BETA - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: IainB on November 04, 2015, 04:07 PM
Feedback on CHS v2.32.0 Beta:
1. Editing a filtered (Ctrl+F) text clip had been a real problem. This now works just fine (I typed up the text of this DCF comment in such a clip). Thankyou!    :Thmbsup:

2. During the editing, I moved back and forth between some clips in the filtered view, copying from them and pasting into the clip being edited. This would be realistic because it is what I would typically want to do in adding to or building a new text note in CHS, and it was not really workable before. It seemed to work OK, but then CHS seemed to stop and then displayed one of the copied clips (like it was slowly moving through the clips), then back to the one I was editing, and then Windows Explorer crashed, but CHS was apparently OK, but VERY slow to display again on screen at first.
When Explorer had restarted, I continued and repeated the exercise, but was unable to repeat the crash, so I don't know whether the crash was related to CHS.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: mouser on November 06, 2015, 06:18 AM
v2.32.0 is now official.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: aarontx on November 06, 2015, 07:17 AM
I unzip the portable download to my app folder and upon launching I continuously get the message that there is a new version available.  It is still only showing v2.29.0.

Is it possible the install executable has been updated but not the portable zip download?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: mouser on November 06, 2015, 07:29 AM
Thank you aarontx for the fast report!
It seems I uploaded the new version to the beta directory instead of the main directory(!)

I've reuploaded now to the proper directory -- please redownload and try now.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: Dogtamer on November 06, 2015, 08:02 AM
Thank you aarontx for the fast report!
It seems I uploaded the new version to the beta directory instead of the main directory(!)

I've reuploaded now to the proper directory -- please redownload and try now.

Was still finding v. 2.29 download is invoked by the "or get the portable zip" download link @ the index pg (https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/clipboardhelpandspell/index.html) when began writing this, but decided to try download one more time - voila!  Thanks, mouser, for producing such a eminently-useful product!

PS- later addition:
Just realized my donation from 28Apr15 had not been activated due to my lack of following simple directions; activated today & directed total available to your acct.  Sorry this took so long!
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: aarontx on November 09, 2015, 07:44 AM
Thank you aarontx for the fast report!
It seems I uploaded the new version to the beta directory instead of the main directory(!)

I've reuploaded now to the proper directory -- please redownload and try now.


Thanks mouser for the quick update to the code!  This is one of my most used utilitie apps and has saved my butt so many times.  I copy tons of code that I am writing, sometimes before I get the opportunity to save and this has allowed me to go back in time to revert to old, unsaved code, or even to an older version that I didn't save or put in source control.

Thanks for this FANTASTIC app!
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: mouser on November 09, 2015, 07:59 AM
aww, thanks  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: smaragdus on November 15, 2015, 05:35 PM
@mouser
Hello,
The download page says its version 2.32.0 while it is actually 2.33.0. I couldn't find a change log for this version.
Regards
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: mouser on November 15, 2015, 05:40 PM
Unofficial update:

v2.33.0 - Nov 13, 2014
[BugFix] Try#2 at fixing bug when using "paste clip using sendkeys" from right-click menu, the SendKeys special characters were being replace (see here); now you need to start a clip with {sendkeys} if you expect to have such replacements performed.



To explain: There are some console tools (putty, telnet) where if you want to paste some text (like login password), you cannot use Ctrl+V, and CHS must simulate typing keys (you can access this feature by right-clicking on quick paste menu item).  The sendkey simulation code is capable of simulating special keys (like control keys, etc.) using special syntax, but this special syntax made it do weird things if you are trying to paste text with characters like "!+{" in it.  So the new routine when using the senkeys method ignores such special characters by default.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: smaragdus on November 15, 2015, 05:47 PM
@mouser
Many thanks for the detailed information you provided. But what means unofficial update- version 2.33.0 is a Beta or a stable release?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: mouser on November 15, 2015, 06:03 PM
It just means its the official current release but i didn't bother to update website or updater since 99.999% of people have no need for the fix and i hate to bug people with updater notifications so soon after previous release.  I'll make it official in a bit.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: smaragdus on November 15, 2015, 06:14 PM
I got it, thanks. I posted here because of the version number discrepancy at download page and inside program's About menu (I supposed it might be an unintentional omission).
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: IainB on November 21, 2015, 08:14 AM
Looks like a logic error in the newish CHS feature for Virtual Folders:
I hadn't needed to use it previously and was just now (2015-11-22) looking to see where in CHS the "new item in the right-click grid menu to help you to make a new VIRTUAL FOLDER group with just the searched for clips":
And don't forget you can also use the quick search box at the top to filter the clips you want and then drag and drop them into a different group.
In fact you've given me a good great idea to make a new item in the right-click grid menu to help you to make a new VIRTUAL FOLDER group with just the searched for clips -- i think that will help people use the virtual folder idea.  Working on that now..
___________________________

I did a search in my clips for "H G Wells" and several clips were displayed in the search results. I then selected them with the cursor, and used the menu to create an SQL VF (Virtual Folder) for them, based on the search, but the result had an error in the SQL, as below (see red error message at foot of image):
"Error X19: DBISAM Engine Error # 10051 Filter error for the table 'ClipTabIe' - Expected expression but instead found ) in filter expression at line I, column 1026 (Hint: check virtual group sql)"

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The text of the SQL is:
(Lower(ClipText) LIKE '%h%' OR Lower(Title) LIKE '%h%' OR Lower(Application) LIKE '%h%' OR Lower(Description) LIKE '%h%' OR Lower(UserKeywords) LIKE '%h%') AND (Lower(ClipText) LIKE '%g%' OR Lower(Title) LIKE '%g%' OR Lower(Application) LIKE '%g%' OR Lower(Description) LIKE '%g%' OR Lower(UserKeywords) LIKE '%g%') AND (Lower(ClipText) LIKE '%wells%' OR Lower(Title) LIKE '%wells%' OR Lower(Application) LIKE '%wells%' OR Lower(Description) LIKE '%wells%' OR Lower(UserKeywords) LIKE '%wells%') AND

Removing the last "AND" in the SQL fixes the error.
This error was repeatable.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: mouser on November 21, 2015, 08:17 AM
thx very much for report, i will fix in next release.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.32.0 - Nov 1, 2015
Post by: IainB on November 21, 2015, 09:01 AM
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: mouser on January 04, 2016, 02:21 AM
Minor update:

v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: smaragdus on January 04, 2016, 04:31 AM
@mouser
First- happy new year and best wishes!
The latest version shows wrong version number- 2.33.0.
Regards
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: mouser on January 04, 2016, 04:38 AM
Thanks for the heads-up, you are correct, fixing.
Title: CHS - Access violation at address 0080DF94 - Read of address 00000008.
Post by: IainB on January 07, 2016, 08:14 AM
On 2015-05-09 using CHS v2.29.0, I got a spurious error:
Access violation at address 0080DF94 in module
'ClipboardHeIpAndSpeII.exe'. Read of address 00000008.

I was busy editing notes in CHS at the time.
The error did not stop the CHS process, but I closed CHS down and restarted it anyway, just in case, and then got CHS to Verify, Repair, Optimize database .
_________________________

I can better define this problem now: (see image below - actual text copy is in the spoiler below that)

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Spoiler
In CHS, if you leave the cursor inside one or any (not sure if it applies to ALL) of the fields in the Grid pane, and then do a search, then the below Read of address 00000008 error occurs.
In the example below, I had left the cursor inside the Notes field when I did the search.
It seems to make no difference whether the field involved is in a record which is included as one of the search results.
This is a repeatable, non-fatal error.

Screen clipping taken: 2016-01-06 21:16
   ---------------------------
   Clipboard Help+Spell
   ---------------------------
   Access violation at address 0080E8C8 in module
   'ClipboardHelpAndSpell.exe'. Read of address 00000008.
   ---------------------------
   OK   
   ---------------------------

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: mouser on January 07, 2016, 08:17 AM
Nice work  :up: :up: :up:

I can confirm and reproduce this bug.. It's wonderful that you figured out a reliable way to trigger it, because now I can fix it  :Thmbsup:

Will try to get out an update this week.

Thanks IainB, both for finding the bug and for your good natured spirit about the hunt!
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: IainB on January 07, 2016, 08:46 AM
^ You're welcome - and thanks right back to you.   :Thmbsup:
I quite enjoy analysing software problems - if I use that software for my own purposes. It can only tend to benefit myself in the longer term.
I only tripped over it by chance, whilst doing some serious experimentation/discovery with CHS, I felt pleased to have finally found a consistent explanation of the trigger.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: mouser on May 15, 2016, 11:46 AM
v2.36.0 BETA - May 13, 2016
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: IainB on May 16, 2016, 09:52 AM
Thanks for the update, but I am getting this when I try to update using the FARR DCUppdater (yes, is the correct spelling):

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I haven't figured out what the problem is yet.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: mouser on May 16, 2016, 09:54 AM
Not sure why you are getting that error BUT:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: IainB on May 16, 2016, 05:39 PM
Ach, I'm half asleep, got no sleep last night.
As to the error message, for always I have had CHS set up as one of several FARR plugins and so that when I run DcUppdater ("Check for updates now" from the standard FARR Help menu), it checks for latest version updates for FARR and all plugins at the same time - updating whatever is listed in the Installables folder - in one hit. I've never seen that error message before, so thought I should mention it. I haven't figured out the root cause yet, but, as I only recently migrated FARR to this new (refurbished) laptop that I am using, I suspect that I may have inadvertently fouled up the FARR DcUppdater settings or not set it "PORTABLE" or something.    :-[
As for it being a CHS Beta update, my apologies - I was in too much of a hurry and did not read the post properly and thus did not register that this latest CHS version was a Beta update. I have now updated it separately via the opening post to this thread.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: IainB on May 17, 2016, 12:57 AM
[BugFix] Fixed bug where clip title edit field could temporarily disappear if previous clip was an image and window was minimized before capturing a text clip.
_______________________________

Thought I should mention this: I noticed by chance in one instance the other day that, when the condition arose where the clip title edit field did happen to temporarily disappear, I chanced to inadvertently restore it by maximising and then minimizing the CHS window.

Since I can't make that condition arise to order, I was unable to test for consistency/repeatability.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: vietnam rum on September 11, 2016, 09:50 PM
Read of address 00000008.

I received an Access violation - Read of address 00000008 and found this thread.
Got the error when doing a search - program continued to work after closing  the error boxes.

You message shows  v2.36.0 BETA - May 13, 2016
I can not locate it on our site.

I am running v2.34.0 and it is the only one i see for download.

Thanks, excellent program.
Vietnamrum


Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: vietnam rum on September 11, 2016, 10:17 PM
Just found link to Beta 2.36 on the first page. I did not see it originally because my search took me to page 12.
https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/clipboardhelpandspell/index.html
Shows 2.34

Forum CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016

Please post a sticky with current Beta so it is easy to find.

Thanks, excellent program.
Vietnamrum
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: dr_andus on October 01, 2016, 07:10 PM
I have never tried CHS but I'm just wondering, how is CHS's performance once the database gets large such as 400MB+?

The reason I'm asking is because I have a ClipCache Pro database of that size, and ClipCache is painfully slow now with any operation involving that database.

My laptop is reasonably powerful (core i7 5500U, 16GB RAM).

Basically I'm wondering if CHS could handle working with databases of this size better. E.g. I wanted to delete the larger clippings there, or put them into folders by year, but everything is so slow (freezes) that it's just not feasible with ClipCache.

The other thing I'm wondering if it's at all possible to import a ClipCache database into CHS.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: IainB on October 02, 2016, 07:16 PM
@dr_andus: I'd be interested in any CHS performance factors/limitations you may discover on this. Please could you post your results here, as and when any turn up?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: mouser on October 03, 2016, 05:01 AM
how is CHS's performance once the database gets large such as 400MB+?

That's a good question, but i don't know the answer.. If there is interest we could find out -- I could write a function that generates some random clip data and we can see how it performs.

My suspicion is that, assuming the clips are in different "folders", so that it's not trying to sort and search 400mb of data at a time, that CHS will perform pretty well, but that's just my guess.  It's also quite possible that it performs very similarly to ClipCache... A factor involved here is how many clips there are (a relatively small number of large clips will perform better i would guess than a million clips).

What I will say is that CHS does try to "help" you not accumulate 400mb worth of clip data, by employing configurable options that will automatically move default (non-favorited) captured clips by default from new to old to trash groups.

As for importing, CHS doesn't have a way to import clips (though it can export them).  I would be willing to write a simple import function if you can get your data out of your existing program in a fairly clean and simple format.  The easiest would be one line per clip, with a line being just the clip text, no extra data like date, etc.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: dr_andus on October 03, 2016, 05:24 AM
Hi mouser - thanks for your reply.

There doesn't seem to be an export function in ClipCache (and it can only import its own older version files).

Yes, the problem is that I have now one mega folder with 46,375 clips accumulated over 4 years, ranging in size from a couple of bytes to 16MB. No matter how I sort it or what I try to do with it, it now takes minutes to complete every operation (such as sort by size or date or search).

This was not by design. I just never had the patience to figure out the app and develop a workflow. Instead, it just runs in the background and saves every clip. This might not be an optimal workflow but it has the advantage that I can find things that I never knew I had (such when I find that I lost a bit of text somewhere ages ago and then I find a copy of it in ClipCache, which is a godsend).

So for me this is a backup solution, as none of my other backups protect me from some apps truncating text while I'm working on it or from me accidentally deleting text. The clipboard memory can be a last resort in finding lost stuff.

I guess I just have to start a new database, so that the current one stops growing.

Don't trouble yourself with the import script. I'll just need to take CHS for a test drive, as I'm curious about those rules you mentioned. Though I wouldn't want to defeat the unconscious backup function.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: tomos on October 03, 2016, 08:00 AM
I'll just need to take CHS for a test drive, as I'm curious about those rules you mentioned. Though I wouldn't want to defeat the unconscious backup function.

You can stop it deleting anything.
I do remember having some performance issues some years back when I had everything being saved (unfortunately I cant find any record of it). I think it better as mouser says to group older clips in folders maybe by date.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
Post by: dr_andus on October 03, 2016, 08:45 AM
@Tom - thanks for the suggestion. Though it's now too late for my 400MB file (it would be just too painful to try to restructure it now), going forward I'll try to use folders by year or month.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: mouser on December 16, 2016, 03:29 PM
v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016

You should find that browsing through clips is noticeably faster now -- for some folks the speed improvement may be huge; thanks to Iain for his help tracking down the slowdown.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: IainB on December 16, 2016, 10:26 PM
Cross-posted from: Re: Problem: CHS consistently very slow to display clips. Need workaround or fix. (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=43216.msg404754#msg404754)
This can definitely be flagged as "FIXED" now!
I have downloaded CHS v2.38 BETA Portable.zip and installed it, from
CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016 (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=1514.msg10153#msg10153)

Thanks a lot for doing this speed-up. Nice work. You raised the bar of CHS' performance.   :Thmbsup:
 CHS v2.38 BETA is blazingly fast - just like it should be. Out of interest, I was just comparing it side-by-side with CHS v2.36 BETA on another laptop. No contest!
And thanks also for improving the functional ergonomics of the Home/End keys. It's only a small ergonomic improvement, but, when one uses those keys as frequently as I tend do on a daily basis, then it can all add up so that even a small ergonomic improvement like that can make for a vast improvement over time, in terms of time saved.

By contrast, the speed-up is also an ergonomic improvement, but it's a big deal (massive) improvement for this user, and it changes one's whole perception of the ease-of-use of CHS. After this fix, one can now better use CHS for the sorts of things it should and could have been useful for, by design, but which one had avoided using it for, because it was effectively crippled by such a proverbial PITB. (Because of my critical view and high expectations, I am usually extremely impatient with computer software and can't abide "laggy" functionality in a GUI that I need to use.)

A much happier user now!    :)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: IainB on December 17, 2016, 05:34 PM
Odd thing here. Text is in the spoiler below.

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Spoiler
      CHS "hang" with unusual icon with a little green arrow, in the Systray.
      Whilst messing about on 2016-12-15 (0429hrs) with testing the CHS "laggy" problem (not absolutely sure, but I think it was CHS v2.37), CHS hung (stopped responding), and I noticed that it had this icon with a little green arrow in the Systray. Since I had never seen it before, I took a screenshot, meaning to ask you what the icon signified. Then I killed the CHS process (in Process Hacker) and restarted CHS - and promptly forgot about it.
      
      Then, with CHS v2.38 the same thing happened earlier this morning (2016-12-18) - CHS hung, the little icon was there, and I killed the CHS process (in Process Hacker) and restarted CHS.
      
      
      I don't know what the little icon with the green arrow signifies. Could it be related to a CHS hang? Since I had never seen it before (previous CHS v2.36), I wondered whether you had introduced it in v2.37.

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: IainB on December 17, 2016, 05:46 PM
Under what circumstances would CHS (v2.36) put files:
- into the CHS program folder?
I recall taking a clip of the contents of the first file, but there is no clip in CHS, so I may have subsequently deleted it.
The contents of the second file appear to be a very garbled version of the contents of the first file.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: mouser on December 17, 2016, 06:42 PM
That icon will be shown while it's trying to copy a clip to the clipboard.

As for tmpin and tempout, those are used when CHS is trying to invoke a custom external exe tool that you have configured as part of modifying the clipboard text.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: IainB on December 17, 2016, 08:08 PM
^^Thanks!
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: mouser on December 19, 2016, 06:03 PM
Would love to hear more beta tester reports..
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: mouser on December 21, 2016, 06:57 AM
I'd really love to hear some more reports that the beta works well before I release it officially..
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: IainB on December 21, 2016, 07:00 PM
CHS v2.38 BETA still running very nicely on my Win10-64 Pro super-discounted (>50%) Dick Smith closing-down-sale Intel i7 Pavilion 15 laptop (a nice laptop, but not without its shortcomings).
CHS is now blazingly fast, and, after years of teeth grinding sluggishness - finally, a pleasure to use!    :-*    :Thmbsup:

For Christmas(??), before you wrap it up, I would respectfully request that that you consider these changes (already suggested elsewhere on the DC Forum):

There is also one new request:    :)   (ingratiating smiley)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
Post by: tomos on December 22, 2016, 03:54 AM
I'd really love to hear some more reports that the beta works well before I release it officially..

just installed and using in my usual very basic manner -- does seem much more responsive; everything working fine so far :up:
Windows 7 x64

For the record:
I have WinAnti-Ransom [WAR] installed. It blocks every install: normally I click the Allow button, run the exe again, and it works fine.
CHS extracts to a different temp folder every times it's run, so keeps getting blocked by WAR (as the previous 'Allow' was for a different path).  I had to disable it in order to install.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: mouser on December 22, 2016, 08:09 PM
New official (non-beta) release:

v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: IainB on December 23, 2016, 05:48 AM
@mouser: Thanks. I have dl CHS v3.29 (portable ,ZIP version) and it's going fine.
Title: Re: CHS LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - "invisible" Title pasting error.
Post by: IainB on December 25, 2016, 06:07 PM
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The text in the clip is in the spoiler:
Spoiler
I had just selected the default Title "NOTE" and pasted over it with the clipboard string: "Words and Phrases to Lose in 2017" - which was the article title for the URL saved in the Memo pane.
Note the string is invisible in the Title in the Memo pane, though it is visible (correctly) in the Grid pane.
This was the second instance - the first was in the
lower clip in the Grid. It is inconsistently repeatable, but happens often. The invisible string will appear in the Title field in the Memo pane after a re-sort.


@mouser: This non-fatal, episodic error first occurred some time ago in CHS v3.6, and as it was a minor annoyance I did not think to mention it until today (using CHS v3.9) - when I recalled your request for feedback.
So I took the time to repeat it after its first occurrence today - just to see if I could repeat it - and I was able to do so, per the screenshot above.
I had never bothered before, because it was a minor issue.

However, it is an inconsistently repeatable error, as I can't make it occur every time I try, so I have not yet figured out the exact conditions to force it to happen, though it only seems to happen when something has been pasted (not typed) into the Title field in the Memo pane - whereupon the text "NOTE" in the Title field is cleared/deleted, but the pasted string is not yet displayed.

The "invisible" Title text of the changed clip in the Memo pane only becomes visible after the clips have been re-arranged in the Grid display, which can happen if the user clicks on one of the other clips in the Grid (whereupon the clip just edited is moved to the bottom of the Grid), or re-sorts the Grid. Either of those actions seems to force the CHS GUI display to be updated/re-displayed. I think that probably indicates that the bug may simply be due to a delay in displaying whatever is in the relevant display output buffer for the Title field in the Memo pane.

An additional note (may be relevant):
I am experiencing this error more frequently now, because I have changed my work processes to work around the problem of CHS not capturing the URL metadata of text clipped from some web browsers. I am now usually using Slimjet (a Chrome-based browser), and CHS does not capture the URL metadata of clips from Chrome browsers (though it is always captured in the Clipboard).

So I now have a frequently-used tedious manual workaround consisting of these steps:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: mouser on January 16, 2017, 01:04 PM
Can I get an update about this bug -- is it still happening?

The latest version of CHS seems to have been a great success in terms of speed improvements.  I would like to squash any remaining oddities..
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: IainB on January 17, 2017, 12:04 AM
@mouser: To answer your Q, from my perspective:
The described episodic and non-fatal CHS problem of tardy display of the Title text copied/pasted into the Memo pane is still occurring - e.g., I noticed it sometimes occurring yesterday, whilst I was doing  a fair amount of clipping and editing in CHS.

As I think I have already pointed out, the problem is nothing new, having been observed by me for a long time and on different laptops and versions of Windows. Because it is episodic, it would probably only be observed by people who were - like me - periodically engaged in doing a lot of editing of clip Titles, with the Title text being copied/pasted into the Memo pane, from the same or another existing clip. Even then, unless the user was - like me - an analytical user accusomed to testing software, the problem might well pass unnoticed.

Similarly with the tooth-grindingly chronic, laggy scrolling refresh timing problem, it seems. Fortunately, that seems to have been almost fully fixed now (thankyou very much!), with CHS most of the time now being/feeling blazingly fast by comparison with its earlier performance levels. Such a great improvement. I am now getting the sub-second response times I would expect and like to get from CHS on my computer system. As one inevitably becomes accustomed to this new, faster level of ergonomic performance, it of course reduces one's tolerance/expectations for delays even further, so that I can now very occasionally perceive those very brief, almost imperceptible, and intermittent lags that might still manifest for some so far inexplicable reason. These are minor imperfections. It's all about "better. faster, bigger or smaller", I suppose.

Two things that I have thought might be desirable improvements:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL v2.39.0 - "invisible" Title pasting error.
Post by: IainB on January 20, 2017, 10:36 PM
I have accidentally discovered how to consistently reproduce this obscure "error" - except it is NOT an error at all, as CHS seems to be doing exactly what it was probably designed to do.

What I have "discovered" is that the Title field in the Memo pane seems to be able to accept multiple lines of pasted text, including line feeds - I'm not sure what the max text limit might be.
So, if you copy a string which has an invisible linefeed character embedded at the end and then paste it into the Title field in the Memo pane, the result will be as follows:

Thus, when the Memo pane is refreshed, the Title field then reverts to displaying just the first line of text, as was already being displayed in the Grid pane. So, the apparent delay in displaying the first line of text is not a delay at all.

Far from it being an "error", I would suggest that this is an undocumented feature of CHS which could be turned into a rather useful feature for users of CHS, by the simple expedient of making the Title field window in the Memo pane able to be draggable-down by the user, so as to expand its depth to display "n" more lines of title text, as may be required by the user.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: mouser on January 21, 2017, 08:17 AM
awesome find. nice to have another mystery solved.
but i'd consider that a bug -- you shouldn't be able to have a title with newlines in it. I will fix.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION - text editing hotkey standardisation.
Post by: IainB on January 24, 2017, 11:05 PM
I had forgotten to note this as I had become so accustomed to working around it:
When editing text in the body of a clip, the "standard" Windows text editing hotkeys seem to work OK, including, for example:

However, these hotkeys do NOT seem to work this way when editing text in most/any of the other fields in CHS which can hold editable text - but they probably should.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION - v2.39.0 thinks it is an older version?
Post by: IainB on February 02, 2017, 07:13 AM
This is a minor issue. I thought it was occurring because of something I had done, but if it is, then I can't figure out what I have done!
This window saying a new version of CHS v2.39.0 is available always pops up at CHS start, even though the version being executed is definitely v2.39.0 (or at least, it thinks it is and that is the version number given in the file version field for that .exe file).
When I installed this version, I copied it from a .ZIP "portable" file, rather than use an installer.

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Title: Re: CHS v2.39.0 - Suggested change in Options
Post by: IainB on February 19, 2017, 11:18 AM
Current CHS v2.39.0
Win10-64 Pro
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Suggested change:

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Change options in "Quick Paste Pop-up menu" to read:
  - Only show Clip Title Text that is INSIDE [] square brackets.
Add new, mutually exclusive option:
  - Only show Clip Title Text that is OUTSIDE [] square brackets.
(NB: square brackets and parentheses look the same in miniscule font.)
Title: Re: CHS v2.39.0 - queries re clips in Groups and child VFs.
Post by: IainB on February 19, 2017, 12:44 PM
Current CHS v2.39.0
Win10-64 Pro
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Query:
If I create a  new "Group" in the Tree pane called "All Things" and with the assigned default ID#32, and

then:
Questions:

Sorry if the answers are obvious, but I can't figure 'em out.
Title: Re: CHS v2.39.0 - request for change re fonts in Options + Quick Note panels.
Post by: IainB on February 19, 2017, 01:16 PM
Current CHS v2.39.0
Win10-64 Pro
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In the CHS Help document, the text in the RHS pane can be zoomed in/out, which is great for those of us as need specs to read the screen.

The visible characters (text) in the CHS Options panels is fixed, minuscule and pixely (character lines seem to be drawn one pixel thick) making them hard to read, and even specs don't help much as the light pollution from glary screens tends to swamp those visible characters making them appear faint (grey) rather than black - so contrast is lost (harder to distinguish and read).
The same seems true of the CHS Add a Quick Note panel.

Using the system magifier pane/lens is a useful, but clunky workaround for this problem.
What would seem to be needed is the ability to zoom in/out or (better) to adjust fonts/colours as can be done for the CHS GUI  - which latter is great by the way.
Title: Re: CHS v2.39.0 - suggested simplification using a toggle switch.
Post by: IainB on February 21, 2017, 10:42 PM
Current CHS v2.39.0
Win10-64 Pro
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Could conserve space and simplify using a toggle switch here:

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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: mouser on February 28, 2017, 12:29 PM
Questions:
How can the Child clips all be automatically "inherited" upwards by the Parent group?
How can the tree display be arranged in alphameric order of name?

It's an interesting question regarding parents of virtual folders.. Currently the parents do not show inherited contents of virtual folders -- but I could change that.. Let me think about adding an option for that.

Regarding arranging the tree alphabetically -- you must manually drag and drop to reorder groups in the tree.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: IainB on March 01, 2017, 08:14 AM
...Regarding arranging the tree alphabetically -- you must manually drag and drop to reorder groups in the tree.
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@mouser: I already tried that and it doesn't seem to work. Tried it again just now, with same result. Maybe I am doing it wrong? We're taking about the tree in the Tree pane here - right?
In fact trying to move stuff around manually like that in the tre seems to be really difficult/kludgy in CHS, so I figured it was not in the design.
Maybe there is an option I need to set somewhere?   :tellme:
In any event, whilst having to do it manually might actually be useful and OK for small trees or groups, it could be too tedious in a larger/more complex tree, and so it would be best to have an automated option in those cases (also less error-prone).

Request: New option for Alphameric (Ascending/Descending) sorting in the whole tree or just in a specified group/sub-group, please.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: mouser on March 01, 2017, 03:46 PM
@mouser: I already tried that and it doesn't seem to work. Tried it again just now, with same result. Maybe I am doing it wrong? We're taking about the tree in the Tree pane here - right?
In fact trying to move stuff around manually like that in the tre seems to be really difficult/kludgy in CHS, so I figured it was not in the design.

You know, you are right.  You can drag and drop groups to move them in and out of parents in order to hierarchically arrange them, but you can't reorder them within a group using drag and drop.

To change their relative order WITHIN a group, right-click and edit the group and then change the DISPLAY ORDER WEIGHT setting -- the lower it is the higher in the order it is.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: IainB on March 01, 2017, 09:10 PM
Ah, OK. Thanks for that. I shall try as you suggest. (Is this an "undocumented feature"?)

Made me think: If you just sort of discovered it as well, then does it mean that I am the only CHS user to have experienced/reported this problem? I would have thought that other CHS users would have experienced similar problems - no?
Maybe I might be "pushing the technical boundaries" as a user of CHS.    :D

It's certainly one of the most useful info-gathering and storing tools that I have. It's actually the first one I usually rely on in my info-gathering processes.
Title: Re: CHS LATEST VERSION INFO - v2.41 Beta - Tree pane sorting problem.
Post by: IainB on March 15, 2017, 05:55 AM
@mouser:
To change their relative order WITHIN a group, right-click and edit the group and then change the DISPLAY ORDER WEIGHT setting -- the lower it is the higher in the order it is.
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Since you wrote the above I have installed CHS v2.41 Portable High-DPI Beta, but I don't think that version had been changed as regards the alphameric sorting problem in the Tree pane of the CHS GUI - the problem being that there appears to be no facility for such sorting.

Sadlement, your suggestion (quoted above, and which I have tried) is kinda useless to all intents and purposes - it does not really address the problem and at best would seem to be simply an impractical, tedious manual kludge that arguably nobody would find of much practical use.
I don't wish to appear ungrateful, but would I be correct in taking your response, therefore, as an indication that you don't intend adding the alphameric tree-sorting functionality that would seem to be clearly lacking in the Tree pane?    :tellme:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: mouser on March 15, 2017, 06:03 AM
would I be correct in taking your response, therefore, as an indication that you don't intend adding the alphameric tree-sorting functionality that would seem to be clearly lacking in the Tree pane? 


It wouldn't be too hard for me to add a right-click function on a group node that said "Sort children alphabetically".
This function would simply set the "DISPLAY ORDER WEIGHT" of each child so that it showed alphabetically.  You could always manually change child weights to rearrange after that.
Note that newly added children would require performing the operation again.
Title: Re: CHS LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: IainB on March 15, 2017, 06:22 AM
It wouldn't be too hard for me to add a right-click function on a group node that said "Sort children alphabetically".
This function would simply set the "DISPLAY ORDER WEIGHT" of each child so that it showed alphabetically.  You could always manually change child weights to rearrange after that.
Note that newly added children would require performing the operation again.
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I think that could be just the ticket. Practical and a time-saver.    :up:
It would also allow for the user to (say) later disrupt an alphameric ordering by introducing a new item at random and then not re-sorting - i.e., users would not be forced to always put up with a purely alphameric sort, if they didn't want it.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
Post by: IainB on March 15, 2017, 06:25 AM
I noticed this a while back, but had forgotten to mention it.
I set up a search for "sage onion stuffing" (without the quotes) and then set it as a virtual group, using:
Menu | Edit | Create new (virtual) group matching current search filter term

This causes an error message to appear as red text in the status bar. The message disappears out of sight as it is evidently too long to all fit in the status bar.

The problem seems to be that the search SQL generated is incomplete:
(Lower(ClipText) LIKE '%sage%' OR Lower(Title) LIKE '%sage%' OR Lower(Application) LIKE '%sage%' OR Lower(Description) LIKE '%sage%' OR Lower(UserKeywords) LIKE '%sage%') AND (Lower(ClipText) LIKE '%onion%' OR Lower(Title) LIKE '%onion%' OR Lower(Application) LIKE '%onion%' OR Lower(Description) LIKE '%onion%' OR Lower(UserKeywords) LIKE '%onion%') AND (Lower(ClipText) LIKE '%stuffing%' OR Lower(Title) LIKE '%stuffing%' OR Lower(Application) LIKE '%stuffing%' OR Lower(Description) LIKE '%stuffin

I can't figure out what I am doing wrong to get this.
It is consistently repeatable.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: mouser on March 16, 2017, 07:12 AM
v2.41.0 Beta - Mar 15, 2017
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: mouser on March 16, 2017, 07:13 AM
I can't figure out what I am doing wrong to get this.

Well your sql is clearly incomplete as pasted.

Are you saying that CHS won't let you write a longer statement, or?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: IainB on March 16, 2017, 11:20 AM
Sorry, maybe I was not very clear about this. I think you misunderstand. It is not "my" SQL. What I pasted into the post above is merely a full copy of the sql generated by CHS, when it automatically created the virtual folder for the 3-word search term that had I put in the search box.
I love it that CHS generates the SQL for the user, but this example seems to show that the sql generated by CHS is truncated for some reason (hence the error report).
Maybe it's a buffer overflow, or something and the buffer needs to be expanded to a size where it is too big to fill up completely?

Is the 3-word search string too complex for the SQL generator to cope with, or have I written the 3-word search term incorrectly? (e.g., should it have a special syntax?) The generated SQL seems OK as far as it goes, it's just that it has been truncated during or after generation by CHS.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: mouser on March 16, 2017, 11:23 AM
the sql generated by CHS is truncated for some reason (hence the error report).

ah ok, let me look into that.

So you are saying that when you choose the menu item to create the new group based on sql of search string, you get the truncated incomplete result that you pasted in your post?
That you see that truncated expression when the dialog first pops up after choosing the command from the edit menu?

Or is the expression correct when it's first shown and then somehow gets truncated later?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: mouser on March 16, 2017, 11:30 AM
I can see from the code that there is a limit to the size of the virtual sql stored for a group at 500 bytes, so that's surely the problem you are hitting...
Easy for me to extend that for new databases.. now let me see how to fix this for existing databases..
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: cranioscopical on March 16, 2017, 07:05 PM
v2.41.0 Beta - Mar 15, 2017
Looks a lot nicer on 3000x2000
Under "Custom Appearance" I need to set the grid font higher than the standard to, say, 12 but I can't get grid row height to adapt to that. I get text that's 'chopped off' at the bottom. In the previous versions I had grid font at 12 and row height at 24. Any chance of a fix for that?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: mouser on March 16, 2017, 07:54 PM
Can I confirm something?

Testing it here I see that the grid row size is too small when the "Grid Row Height" number is set to 0 as it is by default, and I will try to fix that.
But I am able to manually set a custom "Grid Row Height" that seems to make the grid look correct with whatever font size I choose.

Can you confirm that, or take a screenshot to show me what the problem is?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: cranioscopical on March 16, 2017, 08:34 PM
Can I confirm something?

Testing it here I see that the grid row size is too small when the "Grid Row Height" number is set to 0 as it is by default, and I will try to fix that.
But I am able to manually set a custom "Grid Row Height" that seems to make the grid look correct with whatever font size I choose.

Can you confirm that, or take a screenshot to show me what the problem is?

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Grid font size set to 12, Row height set to 24, font she no fit in grid.

If it's okay in your version I've doubtless failed to grasp a concept....?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: mouser on March 16, 2017, 08:35 PM
And what does it look like if you increase row height to say 48?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 16, 2017
Post by: cranioscopical on March 16, 2017, 08:39 PM
As you were posting that, the light bulb came on, albeit flickering dimly, and I tried 48, which is just fine.   :-[
Title: Re: CHS v2.41.0 - odd episodic error on paste inside a clip.
Post by: IainB on March 18, 2017, 05:50 AM
Not seen this particular CHS behaviour before - looks like an odd episodic non-fatal bug or something.
I was editing several separate clips today, when I kicked myself for making a mistake: I had just pasted a text string, replacing the existing text, into the beginning of a clip's Title field in the Menu pane, and then started typing some more text after that, and then noticed that, instead of typing the new text after the end of the string I had just pasted, I was actually typing it in immediately before the beginning of that string.
The cursor was a blue colour (normally is black).

After correcting the situation, I thought "How did I make that silly mistake?"
So I repeated what I had just done:
- at which point, I noticed that the cursor - which should have been black and at the end of the string just pasted - was in fact now blue and positioned immediately before the first character of the string I had just pasted..

I repeated this with three other clips, and it was consistently repeatable for each.
However, after re-sorting and working with CHS (was busy saving clips) for about half an hour (without any intervening restart), it was no longer repeatable, and the colour of the cursor was restored to its usual black (not blue). I had not noticed the point at which it changed.

EDIT 2017-03-19 0008hrs: As an afterthought, I wondered whether this might have something to do with the cursor in CHS being different (thicker) when editing inside the Title field in the Memo pane, whereas it is a thin line when editing inside the clip text.
Title: Re: CHS v2.41.0 - auto-merge a text clip with an existing Image?
Post by: IainB on March 23, 2017, 03:44 PM
@mouser: You know how when you make an image clip, it saves to the database as a 2-part clip - one has a Clip Text tab, the other has a Clip Image tab?

Would it be possible to have a facility to somehow auto-merge a text clip with an existing Image that doesn't yet have any text (apart from the image file path/name)?
The way I do this at present is manual, tedious, and error prone - I just copy and paste stuff into that Image's text tab.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 24, 2017
Post by: mouser on March 24, 2017, 04:42 AM
v2.41.0 - Mar 24, 2017
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 24, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 19, 2017, 04:47 PM
I've just uploaded a new beta which should fix the sql filter size limit that was creating your bug, IainB.
Title: Re: CHS v2.42.0 April 20, 2017 (Beta) portable
Post by: IainB on April 19, 2017, 11:19 PM
@mouser: Thanks. I have downloaded it - CHS v2.42.0 April 20, 2017 (Beta) portable - and the SQL generation for the Virtual Folder works just fine now you have increased the field's max size limit. (What is the limit now, by the way?)
I saw there were only two files you had changed - the .EXE and the Help file.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.41.0 - Mar 24, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 20, 2017, 01:34 AM
What is the limit now, by the way?
It should be essentially unlimited now.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 21, 2017, 08:27 PM
v2.42.0 beta - April 21, 2017
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: cranioscopical on April 21, 2017, 10:17 PM
@mouser

Thanks for the continual improvements to your software!

Over the past couple of weeks CH+S has begun to appear like this in grid view (on several different machines).

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Any clues as to how I can fix it? Playing with options/custom appearance can mitigate the effect but the appearance of CH+S reverts to this on reboot.

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 22, 2017, 03:47 AM
This may be a stupid question, but can you elaborate on what is wrong with the way it looks?  And can you give me a screenshot of your Custom Appearance tab?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: cranioscopical on April 22, 2017, 07:05 AM
This may be a stupid question, but can you elaborate on what is wrong with the way it looks?
 
The 'Excerpt' data is all but illegible.


And can you give me a screenshot of your Custom Appearance tab?

Here's the custom appearance tab as of now.
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Also, here's the 'Excerpt' panel today (which looks fine). My problem is that the panel periodically reverts to the faded-blue look, and on several different computers.
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Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 22, 2017, 11:56 AM
Ok so there are a couple of things to nail down.

The "faded" dim look is, I think, the *normal* way CHS looks if you have selected the ALL group.  It's shows the grid rows as dimmed when the items are not within the group itself but instead in a child group.

Can you confirm that by unchecking the customize checkboxes on the Custom Appearance tab?

If so, do I then understand that your problem is that sometimes CHS is ignoring your Custom Appearance options?

When this happens is it ignoring ALL of your custom appearance options? Or only the one that effects "dimming"?

Does the problem only manifest itself on startup? or randomly in the middle of using it?

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: cranioscopical on April 22, 2017, 01:07 PM
You are absolutely right (of course) about the default dimmed view, I had forgotten that. Now that I have understood, I have mine set so that everything is visible under ALL.

Before taking this further let me confirm that, as usual, I am the problem. Perhaps I am performing some action out of habit. If so, I'll blame it on my unconscious  self-conscious  subconscious.

Thanks for the input.
 
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 24, 2017, 05:28 AM
Before taking this further let me confirm that, as usual, I am the problem.

Based on your description of the symptoms, I'm not sure yet.  Let me know if you think it might be something CHS is doing wrong.  It may still be that CHS is not applying reliably your settings when it starts?
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: kunkel321 on April 24, 2017, 08:27 AM
Mine is also like this....   Mostly.  Did I never notice before?  I dunno. 
EIDT:  This is 2.39.0 on Win 10 x64
(http://i.imgur.com/PHq3UiO.png)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 24, 2017, 11:48 AM
Mine is also like this....   Mostly. 

As I said before, it's by design that clips are dimmed when they are in a child group of the one you have selected.
If you don't like this behavior you have two choices, you can either disable the displaying of child group contents when viewing a group, or you can disable the differential coloring option which is on the bottom of the "Spellcheck and Display tab" and labeled as "Color Rows Based on Group Owner".
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: IainB on April 24, 2017, 12:12 PM
The "faded" dim look is, I think, the *normal* way CHS looks if you have selected the ALL group.  It's shows the grid rows as dimmed when the items are not within the group itself but instead in a child group.

Can you confirm that by unchecking the customize checkboxes on the Custom Appearance tab?

Yes, that has always been true for CHS, I think.
The "dimmed" rows seem to be just default colours, where the user can change them to be some other colour.
I usually set "Grid child row" to black, as that makes them more easily discernible (perceived more clearly) to my eyes, in the Grid pane. That simple change can make a big difference for ergonomic perception. It's worth playing around with, if the user wants to get things right for their peculiar eyesight.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: cranioscopical on April 24, 2017, 02:57 PM
Let me know if you think it might be something CHS is doing wrong.
Nope, it's all down to me - again :-[

For a recent beta I'd expunged existing copies of CH+S and hadn't properly restored the settings when I installed the new version.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 24, 2017, 03:03 PM
Well I'm glad to hear it's not a CHS bug.  I'll make the latest beta official soon.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: IainB on April 24, 2017, 09:43 PM
@cranioscopical:
...For a recent beta I'd expunged existing copies of CH+S and hadn't properly restored the settings when I installed the new version.
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-cranioscopical (April 24, 2017, 02:57 PM)
Not trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs, but if one keeps regularly making dated backup copies of:
- then one can restore these old settings files after an update, which will restore the old user settings where they had just been overwritten by the update.

I find that it also helps to backup/restore ConfigDir.ini, having set it to make CHS "portable", thus:
// IMPORTANT NOTE: Lines starting with // are COMMENTS; you need to remove // to make a line active

PORTABLE=TRUE
CONFIGDIR = .
...etc.

- all these being kept in the CHS app. folder as the "root" for config settings, which folder is not contained within a Program Files folder.
However, being "portable" like this stops the user settings being proliferated amongst the User-named folders - which suits me fine, though it might not suit everyone's needs.

Before I settled on the above approach, I would tend to get things confused after every CHS update and would end up manually restoring the settings from within CHS - a tedious exercise.

Hope this helps or is of use.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: IainB on April 24, 2017, 10:02 PM
Well I'm glad to hear it's not a CHS bug.  I'll make the latest beta official soon.

Eh? Sorry, I is confuzzled by all these Betas... I thought the thing in the OP (as v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017) is/was the latest version (not sure whether it's a Beta though) - is that not so?
Thinking it was, I today downloaded and installed the relevant files from there, for the portable version, because the ChangeLog seemed to indicate all those changes that you had made and that we had been testing, and I saw the .exe file was a different hash to my (Beta) version - which file had the same version number (but slightly earlier date).

What/where is the definitive latest version/Beta? Did I just step backwards, or sideways, or something? Oops.    :-[

Whichever version I have from the OP, it's working very nicely anyway and I am now enjoying making good use of the now fixed-up Virtual Folder SQL field (for which fix, thankyou very much), as it enables the full potential of the nifty VF functionality.    :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 24, 2017, 10:07 PM
You are using the latest version.

What I was saying is that since you guys haven't found any problems in the latest beta, I'll soon do what I always do at this point, which is upload a new official version soon (which will just be the last beta that you have already been using).  The official versions go out to everyone.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 21, 2017
Post by: IainB on April 24, 2017, 11:47 PM
^^ Ah, I see. Thanks.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 25, 2017
Post by: mouser on April 25, 2017, 12:52 PM
I've promoted v2.42 beta to an official release.

v2.42.0 - April 25, 2017
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 25, 2017
Post by: cranioscopical on April 25, 2017, 06:06 PM
Not trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs, but if one keeps regularly making dated backup copies of:

    The file ClipboardHelpAndSpell.ini
    The folder PresetViews

- then one can restore these old settings files after an update, which will restore the old user settings where they had just been overwritten by the update.
Thanks for taking the time IainB,

CH+S runs so well that it's a long time since I had to look into this stuff. I have most of this kind of thing automated but, while recently replacing 3 machines with new ones and significantly updating the remainder, some stuff fell through the cracks. Eggs are cracked, eggs are scrambled, grandma's lost it.
 
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 25, 2017
Post by: kunkel321 on April 26, 2017, 08:27 PM
... or you can disable the differential coloring option which is on the bottom of the "Spellcheck and Display tab" and labeled as "Color Rows Based on Group Owner".
Ah yes.  This prevents the grey.  Actually, the grey was only appearing if the parent folder "Clipboard" was selected.  If "Old" or "New" was selected, then the font was black.  If a Virtual Folder was selected, blue. 

Thanks Fellas.
Title: Re: CHS latest version thread - feature re table capture/paste (Part 1 of 3).
Post by: IainB on September 16, 2017, 10:13 AM
@mouser: wondering whether you can help with a feature requirement here:
(Text is in the spoiler below the last image posted re this.)
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Title: Re: CHS latest version thread - feature re table capture/paste (Part 2 of 3).
Post by: IainB on September 16, 2017, 10:14 AM
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Title: Re: CHS latest version thread - feature re table capture/paste (Part 3 of 3).
Post by: IainB on September 16, 2017, 10:14 AM
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Spoiler
      Puzzle - to ask @mouser for help - re CHS:
      This is the Google Earth Pro window displaying installed and version information: I used OneNote image clipping to capture it into OneNote.
      
      Screen clipping taken: 2017-09-16 15:10
      I wanted to put this into a table. I didn't have to do this, as OneNote indexes and searches text in images.
      I used the usual OneNote OCR feature to extract the text from the above image. The text was extracted in a linear fashion to Clipboard/CHS, rather jumbled-up. So, I pasted that into OneNote. This is the result (linear extraction of text, with OCR errors):
      About Google Earth
      
      Google Earth Pro
      7.3. O 3832 (32-bit)
      8/18/2017
      
      Microsoft Windows (6.2.9200 O)
      NVIDIA corporation (00021.00020.00016.04542)
      16384K 16384
      
      Google Earth Pro
      Build Date
      Build Time
      Renderer
      Opera ting System
      Video Driver
      Max Texture Size
      
      available memory 4095 MB
      kh.google.com
      
      I then laboriously (manually) put that text into a table. The OCR errors were corrected as I went. This is the table produced:
      About Google Earth
      Google Earth Pro
      7.3.0.3832 (32-bit)
      Build Date
      8/18/2017
      Build Time
      9:42:13 am
      Renderer
      OpenGL
      Operating System
      Microsoft Windows (6.2.9200 0
      Video Driver
      NVIDIA corporation (00021.00020.00016.04542)
      Max Texture Size
      16384x16384
      available video memory
      4095 MB
      Server
      kh.google.com
      
      Out of interest, I then:
              (a) used ASR (ABBYY Screenshot Reader) to OCR the text directly from the Google Earth Pro window, to the Clipboard:
             
              This resulted in a similar jumbled-up linear list of the words/characters read, but without any OCR errors. (Previous comparative tests with ABBY found it was very accurate - less error-prone - compared to OneNote.)
              (b) used ASR to OCR the text directly from the Google Earth Pro window, to the Clipboard, but in table (columnar) format:
             
      
      This is the text that went into CHS at (b): (Table --> Clipboard)
      
      Screen clipping taken: 2017-09-16 15:47
      
      If I then then paste (format paste) the Clipboard contents into OneNote, this is the result (non-linear text, arranged  in table form):
      Google Earth Pro   7.3.0.3832 (32-bit)
      Build Date   8/18/2017
      Build Time   9:42:13 am
      Renderer   OpenGL
      Operating System   Microsoft Windows (6.2.9200.0)
      Video Driver   NVIDIA Corporation (00021.00020.00016.04542)
      Max Texture Size   16384x16384
      available video memory 4095 MB   
      Server   kh.google.com
      
      But if I instead Paste (formatted paste from Clipboard) into the same clip in CHS, below the existing text, this is what the CHS clip contents then look like: (notice the "smart" translation of the server URL)
      
      (I know this formatting feature is regarded as something of a "bug" in CHS.)
      This formatted table can be repeatedly pasted into CHS (i.e., it is in the Clipboard), but not into OneNote - where it pastes as just text. The table contains text that can be edited and new lines added in CHS and without destroying the format. However, the table grid lines seem to be fixed in position - i.e. the table grid lines are not draggable.
      For example:
      
      
      However, because CHS is text-based, the formatted table does not persist (it is transient), and if the CHS focus is moved to another clip and then back to this one, this is the result (see red box highlighting the text) - the residual text from the little formatted table is all there (including the smart URL), but the table grid formatting is lost:
      
      
      Question to @mouser: Is there any way of doing this? (following):
              It would be an extremely useful time-saver (saving the tedium of reconstructing the table in OneNote) if I could copy the little formatted text table from the Clipboard, directly into OneNote (or another application) and have draggable grid lines, but this seems impossible. The little table only seems to exist briefly as a visible, formatted table in the CHS clip - as long as focus remains on that clip in CHS - i.e., it seems to be transient (not persistent) in CHS. Which is what one would expect.
              However, whilst it is still there in CHS, I would like to be able to somehow Paste that little formatted table  into a document.
             
              If this is not possible, then I have figured out a wrorkaround, which saves a bit of time but is a bit kludgy in that it uses Excel as an intermediary:
                      § Use the method of either the Table to Clipboard (Method #1) or Table to Microsoft Excel (Method #2) options in the ASR:
                     
             
                      § If the former (Method #1), then open Excel, open a new Excel spreadsheet, and Paste the Clipboard contents into the spreadsheet. Copy --> Paste the table from the spreadsheet into OneNote (or other document). Example below:
                      Google Earth Pro
                      7.3.0.3832 (32-bit)
                      Build Date
                      8/18/2017
                      Build Time
                      9:42:13 AM
                      Renderer
                      OpenGL
                      Operating System
                      Microsoft Windows (6.2.9200.0)
                      Video Driver
                      NVIDIA Corporation (00021.00020.00016.04542)
                      Max Texture Size
                      16384x16384
                      available video memory 4095 MB
                     
                      Server
                      kh.google.com
                     
                      § If the latter (Method #2), then the ASR will automatically open Excel in a new spreadsheet and Paste in the Clipboard contents. Copy --> Paste the table from the spreadsheet into OneNote (or other document). Example below:
                      Google Earth Pro
                      7.3.0.3832 (32-bit)
                      Build Date
                      8/18/2017
                      Build Time
                      9:42:13 am
                      Renderer
                      OpenGL
                      Operating System
                      Microsoft Windows (6.2.9200.0)
                      Video Driver
                      NVIDIA Corporation (00021.00020.00016.04542)
                      Max Texture Size
                      16384x16384
                      available video memory 4095 MB
                     
                      Server
                      kh.google.com
                     
                      § Of the two methods, Method #2 seems to be the more efficient.
                      § In the output of both methods, the table grid lines are draggable.
                      § The differences between the output from the two methods are minor, and, interestingly, in neither one does the "Smart" URL occur - which seems to me to be a loss, as it would be clickable - i.e., http://kh.google.com - and this is arguably what one would want (especially considering the Wiki-like hyperlinking facility already built-in to OneNote Notebooks, by design).


(This is the end of the 3 related comments.)
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 25, 2017
Post by: IainB on January 14, 2018, 07:39 PM
@mouser: I was playing around with some VFs (Virtual Folders) in CHS today, and I noticed in the "All" clips Grid display (which been sorted on "Modified" date/time) that 3 clips had had their "Modified" date/time field updated to the immediate past, though, as far as I was aware, I had not updated/changed the contents of these 3 clips in any way.
The 3 clips were 2x text clips and 1x image clip, from different years.

I am using CHS v2.42.0
Are you able to define what are all the conditions under which the "Modified" date/time will be updated?
I would like to understand this behaviour, as it changes the metadata of the clips.
TIA.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 25, 2017
Post by: mouser on January 16, 2018, 07:09 AM
Are you able to define what are all the conditions under which the "Modified" date/time will be updated?
After I finish updating the server and catch my breath I'll go through the source code and see if I can find out what events cause the modification time to be updated -- just remind me this week if I don't report back sooner.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.42.0 - Apr 25, 2017
Post by: IainB on August 22, 2018, 10:44 AM
@mouser: Just reminding you of 2 outstanding queries, some months later:
Re: CHS latest version thread - feature re table capture/paste (Part 3 of 3).
https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=1514.msg412816#msg412816
..."Is there any way ... to be able to somehow Paste that little formatted table into a document"?

I am using CHS v2.42.0
...Are you able to define what are all the conditions under which the "Modified" date/time will be updated?
I would like to understand this behaviour, as it changes the metadata of the clips.
TIA.

If it's too much trouble to dig up answers to these, then I'd quite understand.
They're not showstoppers for me.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: mouser on April 28, 2019, 09:56 AM
Beta v2.45 Apr 28, 2019

Download:

v2.45.1 - Apr 27, 2019
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 beta - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: IainB on April 29, 2019, 12:37 AM
Thanks! I am now running CHS Beta v2.45 portable.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 beta - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: mouser on April 29, 2019, 12:43 AM
 :up:
and remind me if you have any pending feature requests...
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: mouser on May 03, 2019, 04:38 AM
I've promoted the last beta release (2.45.01) to a normal release.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: chashnniel on May 06, 2019, 06:43 AM
The latest changelog said:
You can now set a hotkey to copy the text under the cursor :-\ (by triggering a Ctrl+C) and then APPENDING it to last clip.  Useful for building up clips.

I guess it refers to the option in hotkey -- copy and append

I tried to set it to ctrl + shift + L
And first I copyed 111 with ctrl + c, then I selected 222 and clicked CS+L. Then I clicked ctrl + v but I still get 222 (I thought it should be 111222)
Am I missing something?
Thx
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: mouser on May 06, 2019, 04:30 PM
Then I clicked ctrl + v but I still get 222 (I thought it should be 111222

Ah i see the confusion.
Ok what CHS is doing is appending the new item (222) to the LAST STORED CLIP in its database.  (can you check that that is the case?).

But it's not actually modifying the contents of your clipboard to be the appended complete text.

So it's useful for building up an appended clip but its not available automatically when you ctrl+V, you'd have to access the built up clip from the main CHS window.

I suppose I should fix that so that it ALSO modifies the clipboard with the full appended text.. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: mouser on May 06, 2019, 04:46 PM
Can you try this new beta and see if it fixes the issue:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: chashnniel on May 06, 2019, 06:29 PM
Can you try this new beta and see if it fixes the issue:
  • https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/clipboardhelpandspell/downloads/beta/ClipboardHelpAndSpellSetup.exe
  • https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/clipboardhelpandspell/downloads/beta/ClipboardHelpAndSpellPortable.zip
I tried this new version, and it works like a charm. :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: mouser on May 06, 2019, 06:37 PM
 :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: Curt on May 07, 2019, 03:35 AM
CHS has a link to the now former Tiny Spell homepage, but today that page is something unwanted else.
CHS > Help > Content > Extra Information > Spelling Tools > http://www.megspace.com/computers/tinyspell/
should probably be deleted.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: IainB on May 07, 2019, 07:00 AM
@mouser:
I have installed CHS v2.45.1. Beta (from the .ZIP file, per link above).
Seems to work just fine for me, though I haven't tested it for the issue that @chashnniel raises.

Have you incorporated a fix for the RAM-drive "allergy" that CHS seems to have (per separate discussion)? I'd like to force it to use TEMP in RAM drive again.
Thanks.
Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019
Post by: mouser on May 09, 2019, 01:00 AM
Iain can you point me to the thread about that so I can refresh my memory?
Title: Re: CHS LATEST v2.45.0 - Apr 28, 2019 - conflict re Win10 Fast Startup + ImDisk.
Post by: IainB on May 09, 2019, 10:05 AM
@Mouser:
Iain can you point me to the thread about that so I can refresh my memory?

Sure, here you go:

@mouser: Nope, the gotcha is still there after boot-up has completed with R:\Temp running OK.
As soon as CHS is restarted after setting the CHS Tweaks to Force to system Temp directory, the error:
   Error DBG103: DBISAM Engine Error # 11013 Access denied to table or backup file '124120'
 - pops up and and CHS is without any settings.
Whilst CHS is still thus active, I go into CHS to change the Tweaks, and this error pops up again:
   Error DBG103: DBISAM Engine Error # 11013 Access denied to table or backup file '124120'

I then set CHS Tweaks back to Let database engine decide and then terminate CHS and restart it. CHS then seems to start up just fine, with all settings correct as previously.
This seems to be consistently repeatable.

However, CHS is definitely "allergic" to the ImDisk RAMdisk under this current version of Win10-64 Home, whereas it was perfectly OK using that RAMdisk under Win10-64 Pro.
I presume that the likely cause could be some vestigial Registry entry in this Home version which remains even after fast startup has been disabled. I shall try to research that as I'd like to know.
It might be worth identifying exactly what CHS looks at when the user sets CHS Tweaks to Force to system Temp directory, as a good starting-point, because that's when the error is triggered - e.g., whether it checks the Registry for anything at that point.

As far as any other apps being similarly afflicted by this mysterious error, so far there's still been no sign. Pretty much everything that has to use system Temp will need to be happily using that ImDisk RAMdisk. Apart from CHS, everything else seems stable with it, so far.    :o

That's very odd.. I wonder if maybe CHS is getting the wrong directory information somehow and trying to write somewhere it shouldn't.
Maybe I can have it report where it really is trying to write.
AND at the lease I can have it try to give a better error about the likely source of trouble so people less rigorous than you have a chance at fixing the problem. 

^^ Yes, those could be useful ideas. Thanks.

By the way, I just had an installer automatically run itself from the RAMdisk Temp and it kept failing, but it ran OK from a directory on C: drive.
I recall this problem (installers failing when run from R:\Temp) being a problem sometimes, with some installers, so it's probably nothing new. I never could figure out the cause of that.

I just realised that CHS writes the file CHSDatabaseLockFile.lck to the ImDisk RAMdisk (R:\TEMP) without any apparent problem, so it's not totally "allergic" to the R:\TEMP directory.
Don't know if that helps any, but I thought I should mention it anyway.

Title: Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.46.0 - Dec 30, 2019
Post by: mouser on December 30, 2019, 04:32 PM
Just a minor update to get back into the habit of updating the program:
v2.46.1 - Dec 30, 2019