Hm. I can only say that calendar in my kitchen ends on 31st of December, 2011. And that's before Mayan :(
-fenixproductions
Ha! This makes me wonder (given all the hype) if your next years calendar will show December 21, 2012 as the last day with a note that says in small print at bottom...
"In case the world does not end, please attach the enclosed addendum of December 22 thru 31 here. Please note the addendum was shipped in the original shipping envelope. If you have lost your addendum, don't bother contacting us for replacements since you would need to allow six to eight weeks to receive the replacement."
The calendar doesn't "end" any more than the one hanging on your wall does on December 31st. It's just the beginning of a new cycle, end of story. It's happened before in recorded history several times (notice: no cataclysms those times) and it will happen again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calendar#Long_Count
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html
-JavaJones
Oshyan,
Thanks for breathing what appears to be reality into this hype-laden subject. I appreciate the links.
Not to mention that the date from the Mayan calendar may not be properly correlated with our (Gregorian) calendar anyway: http://www.livescience.com/culture/mayan-apocalypse-miscalculated-calendar-101018.html
- Oshyan
Yep, I was aware of that one.
I am not a conspiracy buff, but I have been in positions where what went to press was not the true reality. My experiences have made me a bit hesitant to eliminate "hype" just because the "experts" say so. I'll give two personal examples that I had a part in myself. Whether you choose to accept what I relate as fact or fiction and the commensurate ramifications, you will have to judge for yourself. I will simply state what I write is my own experience and it is fact.
1st Experience
In 1996 I had stumbled across some info (call it, "theinfo") on a major far-reaching initiative (call it, "theinitiative") on the internet about a prominent figure (call him, "theman"), wherein I said to myself, "Wow, this internet thing really does offer an opportunity to get the real dope on what is really going on!" After several hours (and the loss of a night's sleep) I had unearthed no less than seventeen specific sites that were about "theinitiative" with much, what I considered sensitive and damaging information about "theman" and his supporting staff. Frankly, I was astounded that morning. I could not believe that many unique sites which checked and cross-checked (read: validated) would allow information of that nature to be available to the public at large! It is important to note all 17 sites were unique domains, AFAICT.
After about six weeks, on a whim late one night, I decided to search for "theinitiative" again. I only found two sites that were hits. One was "404." The other was a site I never came across before. This second site displayed two frames. On one frame was most of the particulars of "theinfo" on "theinitiative" including the name of "theman." Even some damaging information was related. Unfortunately, the other frame was the "eyewitness" report of an FBI agent which had uncovered and was smuggling space alien embryos to a safe place to keep the tiny alien embryos from being destroyed! To this day, I can not discover anything about "theinitiative" and the connection to "theman."
The implications are obvious. What was six weeks earlier seventeen unique web sites sharing numerous aspects and a lot of important individuals involved in some pretty important stuff was now reduced to a "National Inquirer" type context right next to the plot to save alien embryos. For me, the implications are too clear to dismiss.
2nd Experience
I think it was mid 2007 when a multi-week campaign by a newspaper to discredit a community of people with the help of an ex-member, I'll call "Richie" blew up in their face. This issue was quite distressing, so much so that when the newspaper covered their tracks I made a plea on DC with this post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=8500.msg61156#msg61156) on May 11, 2007.
After many weeks of caustic lies expounded on by "Richie," this community began receiving threats of all sorts and initiatives were being discussed to remove children from the families that were part of this community among other "mob" actions. FYI - I did not participate in the forum, but lurked constantly to try and discern who the various players were on that forum. Remember, these were my long-time friends (20+ years) some of who had turned foes that I knew. It was not difficult building my "roster." I had intended on approaching various people and assist in some kind of reconciliation effort. I never got the chance. One night I was lurking the forum and was shocked, but relieved to see that "Richie" had confessed he had gotten offended and was going to get even. He named others in the plot and communicated details that no one else would have known in such specifics. I knew it was "Richie." I knew "Richie." I first met him as a young boy of nine (?). I visited with him and his family every Friday evening for three years and then still was involved with his growing up. I attended his wedding to a young woman I knew almost from her infancy.
I tried to return to those pages in short order, but to my dismay the forum had been deleted. In a further attempt to discover pertinent details I attempted to search the paper's database. Again, nothing even though the previous 4-5 issues of the Sunday paper prominently displayed "front-page" news about the "crimes" of the community. After about a weeks worth of effort to find evidence of the newspaper and the reporter's callous misdoings, it became obvious that no information could be found anywhere. Even a exhaustive search of Google's "cached pages" yielded nothing.
Again, the implications are obvious.
FWIW - I am not an Art Bell/George Noory fan. I can count the number of times I have listened to Coast to Coast on one hand and I can count the total number of times I have listened to those of that ilk on the other hand.
While I have no concern you are attempting to do a "cover up," the two factual and personal instances I have related above allow me to read the "experts" you cited with an open mind. I recognize that if any of the potentially catastrophic happenings were real, we in the general public would be lied to in order to manipulate the population. Remember the reality concerning a particular defoliant named, "Agent Orange?" Consider how the "mad" Jewish "Zionists," as they were labeled by the Nazi dailies and periodicals, kept adding a lot of "hype" and sensationalism about "railroad stock cars," "ovens," "fire!" and "extermination." I'm persuaded many Jews were cursed with constant remembrances of the "hype" they dismissed as not plausible. Don't fall into the "yeah, but that was Hitler's boys" trap. The point is the population of Europe to the tune of six million plus that were Jewish were lied to to serve the purposes of the government. Given the intelligence quotient of the audience here, there is no need to expound further on this point.
Ask yourself, if a real cataclysm of any sort was impending, would the "experts" and government spokespersons tell us the truth? Food for thought, eh?
Thanks for the reply,
Calvin
@CodeTRUCKER
I completely know what you mean in your spoilers!
The sad thing is: after the years you may start believing that all of that was in your head :(
"So in my head..."
When first versions of particular Browser reached the market there was "Crash IE" project around to make this Browser more popular.
It worked simply:
1. put malicious code on your website which will change IE homepage and crash it,
2. new homepage will show big "Get Browser" button.
Some Big Company got an idea to pay 1$ for each hijacked IE which could have homepage address composed as:
http://bigcompany.com/getbrowser/?q=http://mypage.com
mypage.com owner could get nice amount of money thanks to that.
It made some media to roar, Big Company abandoned this approach and after the month... any info couldn't be found about.
The ending, of course, is as sad as being called a liar (the best) or crazy f&*k (the worst).