Originally posted: | 2013-11-23 |
Last updated | 2016-05-03 |
App Name (2 apps used consecutively) | AOMEI Backupper FREE (used to clone a drive) AOMEI Partition Assistant FREE (used to resize a partition) |
Thumbs-Up Rating | :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup: - that's just for the cloning and partition management; backup was not trialled/tested. |
App URL | http://www.backup-utility.com/download.html On that page AOMEI Backupper has two alternative installation files: One size: 60MB, supports both Windows 7/8/Vista/XP and Windows Server 2003/2008/2012 (link to CNET download) The other size: 20MB, it only supports Windows 7/8 and Server 2008 R2/2012. (link to a "local" download) |
App Version Reviewed | AOMEI Backupper v1.6 AOMEI Partition Assistant SE v5.2 |
Test System Specs | MS Win7-64 Home Premium |
Supported OSes | PC Windows (various) |
Support Methods | Support website: http://www.backup-utility.com/support.html |
Upgrade Policy | Free upgrades. |
Trial Version Available? | Not applicable - this is FREEware. |
Pricing Scheme | AOMEI Backupper + AOMEI Partition Assistant are FREEware. See also: AOMEI Partition Assistant Professional Edition 5.5 free (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=36765.msg344283#msg344283) |
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There are 21 bad sectors on the disk surface. The contents of these sectors were moved to the spare area.
Based on the number of remapping operations, the health of the disk was decreased in different steps.
There are 1 weak sectors found on the disk surface. They may be remapped anytime in the later use of the disk.
7408 errors occured during data transfer. This may indicate problem of the device or with data/power cables. It is recommended to examine and replace the cables if possible.
At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further.
it is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there.
It is recommended to continuously monitor the hard disk status.
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CHENGDU AOMEI® Tech Co., Ltd.- so that probably explains the awkward use of English. It took me a while to understand that the Cloning function is part of AOMEI Backupper.
Address: 3F, SOHO Business Port, No.5 HongJiXin Rd, Chengdu, China
Postcode: 610000
So I went online and ordered a hard drive I had been keeping my eyes on - a Western Digital Black 2.5 inch 500GB SATA 7200RPM 16MB Cache Hard Drive Model: WD5000BPKX. (The failing Seagate drive was a discontinued model.)-IainB (November 23, 2013, 05:51 AM)
Download AOMEI Backupper Full Version 1.6
Platform: Windows 7, 8, Vista, XP and Windows Server 2003, 2008, 2012
Size: 60MB
Download AOMEI Backupper for Win7 1.6
Platform: Windows 7, 8 and Server 2008 R2, 2012
Size: 20MB
On the download page (http://www.backup-utility.com/download.html), it says:The software has two installation files:I downloaded and installed the smaller file, then executed AOMEI Backupper. Click-click-click with the mouse - and in less than 20 seconds I had started cloning my failing Seagate drive to the new WD drive.
One size: 60MB, supports both Windows 7/8/Vista/XP and Windows Server 2003/2008/2012, you can download according to your OS. (link to CNET download)
The other size: 20MB, it only supports Windows 7/8 and Server 2008 R2/2012. (link to a "loal" download)-IainB (November 23, 2013, 05:51 AM)
...I downloaded and installed the smaller file, then executed AOMEI Backupper. Click-click-click with the mouse - and in less than 20 seconds I had started cloning my failing Seagate drive to the new WD drive.I was impressed, and subsequent testing of the clone (which I am using as my primary now) indicates nothing amiss so far.
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Could you maybe suggest some areas where I could poke around to check up on the output?-IainB (November 25, 2013, 05:30 PM)
Yes, it seems to have been an easy, painless process. The cloned system behaves just like it was the old one. No hiccups. I had been expecting much worse.Could you maybe suggest some areas where I could poke around to check up on the output?The best check is, of course, a fully functioning system. If it appears to be working OK and your installed programs, (especially things like AV and virtual devices, if you have any), work OK then I'd say it's working fine.-IainB (November 25, 2013, 05:30 PM)-4wd (November 26, 2013, 03:14 AM)
I am a bit confused as to what "cloning" means as opposed to creating an image and what the advantage would be?Yes, I found it confuzzling too.-beethoven (December 13, 2013, 10:48 PM)
:Thmbsup: Well, I successfully restored one system image via Aomei Backerupper free version (henceforth 'AB')-tomos (July 27, 2015, 04:18 PM)
When you create an image, the whole concept is to take everything. If you don't want that, you are making a plain file backup.-Shades (August 01, 2015, 08:29 AM)
Depending on the format used for the generated image file, there might be software that allows you to peek inside those files, allowing you to read and copy stuff from that image file.Yeah,-Shades (August 01, 2015, 08:29 AM)
Hard-core tools, software that does not use the installed Windows, doesn't care. This type of software is probably not for the faint of heart...but imho is usually less messy that the kind that uses Windows.-Shades (August 01, 2015, 02:06 PM)
When you create an image, the whole concept is to take everything. If you don't want that, you are making a plain file backup.-Shades (August 01, 2015, 08:29 AM)
hiberfile.sys and the paging file are often excluded by default by this type of software when creating an image file-tomos (August 01, 2015, 09:03 AM)
@dr_andus: Not sure I understand the Q or what you are requiring to do. For example, what's the difference between your definitions of the System backup and the Disk backup?-IainB (May 02, 2016, 05:23 PM)
If the system files are on the same disk as all your data, then presumably they can be backed up incrementally, if you specify that for the relevant system folders when running backups. Not sure what the value would be in that though-IainB (May 02, 2016, 05:23 PM)
Note: Also you can create a full backup of disks or system partitions by selecting "Disk/System Backup" here.
...It took over 7 hrs today to back up my system and then verify the backup, so I'd rather not do a full system backup every time if I don't have to.- it would seem that you might not have a clear strategy.
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If the device is from 2009, chances are that your USB hard disk is of the USB 2.0 kind. Although theoretical speeds of USB 2.0 are higher, in practice you are happy if such a device can sustain a read/write throughput of 20MByte/sec. If the rest of your computer is from around the same period, chances are that your internal hard disk(s) is/are connected to SATA 2 port(s). 4 to 5 years ago the successor of SATA2 came out, which doubled the speed of SATA2. Around that same time USB 3.0 also came out.
A SATA3 internal hard disk in combination with an USB 3.0 device connected on a USB 3.0 port will cut the time it takes to create your backup significantly.-Shades (May 03, 2016, 07:35 AM)
For the bulky size of the full backup: Does it contain Windows restore points? Windows has a knack of not adding certain parts of its bulk, to keep the total byte count a lot lower than the actual amount of bytes stored on the hard disk (for example: the folder 'System Volume Information' on each and every partition of your hard disk collects a lot of 'cruft' over time). A tool such AOMEI doing a full backup won't skip such folders.-Shades (May 03, 2016, 07:35 AM)
Incremental backups have the big advantage of being small almost all the time. And as a result, those won't take up much of your time. The disadvantage is that restoring data from such backups can take a long time...and if you have used unreliable media somewhere in the 'chain' of backups, restoring data can become a major headache very quickly.-Shades (May 03, 2016, 07:35 AM)
While the option 'verify' makes you think that your data is backed up safely, if you don't actually test your backups (both incremental and full) the only thing you did was losing time by writing a pile of verified useless garbage. Don't find out you are (royally) screwed the moment a failure occurred and you need to restore your backup. Test your backups when your computer is in working condition first, because you can easily create a new backup if the previous one fails to restore.-Shades (May 03, 2016, 07:35 AM)
The resulting image file was 427GB. Again, if all my data is c. 250GB, what's the extra stuff?-dr_andus (May 03, 2016, 03:25 AM)
can you check the C drive and see how full it is (not just data)?-tomos (May 03, 2016, 01:23 PM)
I've used aomei successfully a couple of times now for restoring images.
I always do a new image, always the system backup option as it will catch any mini boot partitions as well.
I never do incremental, just delete older images (I usually try an keep at least two).-tomos (May 03, 2016, 01:23 PM)
Could you figure out how long the backup should take -- using Shade's estimate of 20MB/s ?
Ten hours sounds like an awful long time (sounds far too long to me but I'm not going to do the maths now).-tomos (May 03, 2016, 01:23 PM)
AOMEI Pro Backupper ... free for 8 more hours from "now" at http://sharewareonsale.com/s/aomei-backupper-pro-freebie-sale
Main pro advantage seems to be clone image ability-tsaint (May 03, 2016, 05:07 PM)
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AOMEI Pro Backupper ... free for 8 more hours from "now" at http://sharewareonsale.com/s/aomei-backupper-pro-freebie-saleI just now downloaded and installed it. I noticed that it sets up a bunch of Services on installation. Could be an overhead...
Main pro advantage seems to be clone image ability
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They have a sale the coming weekend; 7+8'th of May 2016I've made a note of that website also.
The offer prices are not yet revealed, but "up to 65% off for a bundle"
Scroll all down: http://www.backup-utility.com/landing/aomei-weekend-sales.html
________________________-Curt (May 03, 2016, 04:51 PM)
I'm still a bit confused -- you say C drive has 189GB, but you also mention 250GB.
Even if you backed up the whole drive, I dont see why you should get an image of over 400GB - unless I missed something big, things aren't adding up there.-tomos (May 04, 2016, 03:57 AM)
I see... So what are the use cases for System vs. Disk backup? Wouldn't I be always better off doing a complete Disk backup then, to make sure I don't ever lose anything?-dr_andus (May 04, 2016, 05:16 AM)
More Aomei experiences [Aomei Partition Manager]:
I wanted to delete a partition; incorporate the freed-up space into 'C'; then divide 'C' into three partitions:
[C | Data | Partition-with-space-for-one-backup-image]
Aomei Partition Assistant:
# I created a boot usb-flash-drive (it's Win PE)
# on a laptop with three partitions (one a miniscule one with some Dell tools), I:
- deleted the 12GB 'Recovery' partition
- I then had to *move* (and resize) the 'C partition so as it would take over the now unallocated space (this was slow: I had to use an 'up' arrow to increase the size of 'C')
At this stage I rebooted: everything was fine so I created a new 'System image' using Aomei Backerupper
I then booted again with Aomei Partition and:
- split 'C' into two partitions
- then split the newly made partition into two partitions
[..] worked fine :up:-tomos (August 02, 2015, 12:20 PM)
I guess copying *everything* could cover you if you ever want to replace the harddrive -- but I have no idea how good aomei backupper is at that.
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... Things tend to change, and now that Windows 10 offers some more useful backup functionality - especially the apparently really useful backup and restore functionality of File History - I shall trial it, and maybe, after I have trialled it, it could well end up becoming my new de facto backup/recovery tool to a PHD. ...I recently finally got around to trialling the Win10 File History utility.-IainB (May 02, 2016, 07:29 PM)
File was not backed up due to its full path exceeding MAX_PATH limit or containing unsupported characters:
C:\Users\[UserID]\OneDrive\C-Drive\Workdata.004\LIBRARY\Private\Some directory ID\Another directory ID\Application for registration as a something with a very long filename that goes on and on and on - Form-XXKF-06-2015 [BLANK].pdf
If you want it to be protected, try using different directory and file names.
Once the Free AOMEI Backupper Pro v4.1 was downloaded, I couldn't figure out - HOW THE HECK DO YOU REGISTER using the key sent separately via email?the offer continues today.
Others had asked this Q in the discussion thread at BDJ, but there seemed to be no answer as yet.
At the time of installation of this latest version, my installation does not ask for a key or anything. It just works.
The installer removed an earlier Pro version that I had and asked if I would like to keep the key, or something, so I said "Yes".
I wonder - is that how it "registered" - i.e., automatically using the old key?-IainB (June 19, 2018, 11:11 PM)
...It sounds like yours is registered, but hard to know...Yes, I was fairly sure that was likely to be the case.-tomos (June 20, 2018, 04:20 PM)
The license is tied to the Machine ID. So if you upgrade from 4.0.6 to 4.1.0 and elect to keep the registration(it will ask), it will upgrade to a registered version of 4.1.0. Which is what happened to you (and me).
If you clone the partition to another HD, the registration will be invalid since it uses the HD serial number (and other stuff) for the registration algorithm.
Copied from: AOMEI Backupper Pro - Backup and Restore Software - 100% off PC - <http://www.bitsdujour.com/software/aomei-backupper-professional#comments138248>
I was aware that the registration was probably attached to the Machine ID but not that it was attached to the HDD ID also. That could be a good reason for NOT using AOMEI Backupper Pro.I'm presuming this is only the case for the free version :-\ unfortunately Aomei hasn't clarified this (unless they did since my last post).-IainB (June 20, 2018, 09:02 PM)