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Title: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 11, 2013, 05:48 AM
Hi all,

I have been struck by a violent nostalgia access and I am currently looking for an old song.  It was sung, in the seventies, as far as I remember, by a young girl, possibly British, and she sang in some kind of a non-existing language.  Possibly using also words like pop, whizz, and so forth.

I'd be most grateful if someone could identify this very unique song.

Thanks in advance,
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Ath on November 11, 2013, 06:06 AM
What country was it released in? Not every song is released/available in every country :-[
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 11, 2013, 06:52 AM
Good point !

One of my sisters brought the 45rpm from either the UK or France.  I am pretty sure it was on the radio in France too but I was around 10 years old at that time.  And of course my sisters don't remember anything about this song.

Thanks !
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: 40hz on November 11, 2013, 07:16 AM
I'm guessing it might be somebody singing a Breton variant of puirt-a-beul vocalisms (rather than a made up language) - but the date and the fact it was a pop performer have me stumped.

If anybody here would know who that is, it probably would be app103. She's the only person I know who is even more into fringe and obscure musicians, instruments, and idioms than I am. ;D

How about it April? You're our resident whiz for this sort of thing. :)
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: joiwind on November 11, 2013, 08:47 AM
I think it might be a song performed by Jane Birkin and written by Serge Gainsbourg - but I can't remember the title !!!  :D
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Ath on November 11, 2013, 09:58 AM
a song performed by Jane Birkin and written by Serge Gainsbourg
Their most popular, EU-wide IMHO, was Je t'aime (lyrics) (http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858542056/)
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: TaoPhoenix on November 11, 2013, 11:11 AM
I'm guessing it might be somebody singing a Breton variant of puirt-a-beul vocalisms (rather than a made up language) - but the date and the fact it was a pop performer have me stumped.

Not necessarily "Pop Performer" ... "using words like Pop". ("Maybe")

Heh this sounds like a programmer's dream!
"Go Go Music Database Boolean Search!

Give me all 45's from the 70's with female singers in France and UK with Non-Obviously-Identifiable-Language"!

That Language thing really chops it down because it knocks out all the English and French songs. So you for example might not recognize Japanese (on a cross-euro cheap Italian re-issue etc) but say there's 500,000 eligible songs from the 70's on 45
RPM, Non-English Non-French would chop out 490,000 of them!

:)

Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on November 11, 2013, 11:22 AM
I have been struck by a violent nostalgia access and I am currently looking for an old song.  It was sung, in the seventies, as far as I remember, by a young girl, possibly British, and she sang in some kind of a non-existing language.  Possibly using also words like pop, whizz, and so forth.
I'd be most grateful if someone could identify this very unique song.

Come on, MerleOne, I am certain you can remember just a little more! What year? Was it slow or fast - soft or hard - did they use an accordion, or maybe some drums, or, or?
 :tellme:
I was born in 1957 and the radio was my friend, so just maybe...

Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on November 11, 2013, 11:36 AM
My instinct says "Look what they've done to my song" with both English and French lyrics.

No, of course not, it has been played so many times since then that MerleOne would know it.

Hm... what then?
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on November 11, 2013, 11:50 AM
L:\PlayList\Sukiyaki - Kyu Sakamoto.mp3




Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: tomos on November 11, 2013, 11:59 AM
^ enjoyed that Curt :-)



I presume with words like pop & whiz, that it was something very poppy?
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on November 11, 2013, 12:06 PM
some kind of a non-existing language.  Possibly using also words like pop, whizz, and so forth

- TaoPhoenix and the word "possibly" made me think Japanese could be right. However, it was first released already in 1961, so it's probably not the one he's asking for.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 11, 2013, 12:25 PM
I think it might be a song performed by Jane Birkin and written by Serge Gainsbourg - but I can't remember the title !!!  :D

Thanks but I am 100% sure is was not a JB/SG song.  The performer was much younger I think than JB even at that time.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 11, 2013, 12:34 PM
I have been struck by a violent nostalgia access and I am currently looking for an old song.  It was sung, in the seventies, as far as I remember, by a young girl, possibly British, and she sang in some kind of a non-existing language.  Possibly using also words like pop, whizz, and so forth.
I'd be most grateful if someone could identify this very unique song.

Come on, MerleOne, I am certain you can remember just a little more! What year? Was it slow or fast - soft or hard - did they use an accordion, or maybe some drums, or, or?
 :tellme:
I was born in 1957 and the radio was my friend, so just maybe...

Well, the difficulty is that I heard this song less than ten times probably.  What year : I would say sometimes between 70 and 75 (I was 14 that year).  Rather Soft.  I think the music was from a synthetizer (like pop corn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjxNnqTcHhg) but much softer.  Maybe there was only a guitar. Can't remember about drums, or other instruments, I just recall the very young voice and these strange words.  The melody was, how could I say, very attractive (compelling?): when I heard it I couldn't do anything else, just listen to it.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 11, 2013, 12:36 PM
^ enjoyed that Curt :-)



I presume with words like pop & whiz, that it was something very poppy?


Sorry, I was not clear about that point, I was trying to describe the possible usage of onomatopoeia, but I don't think there was too many of them in that song.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 11, 2013, 12:38 PM
Look what they've done to my song

Not that one, sorry, I don't think any word could be recognized.  I was much too young to speak English back then but I think I could identify it was English, and it wasn't.  Just the accent of the singer.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 11, 2013, 12:57 PM
puirt-a-beul

Yes, it could very well be, regarding the lyrics.  The music was however very different.  Very "commercial". And more like "pop" music from that time.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on November 11, 2013, 01:22 PM
I am wondering if the song could have been Irish: Gaudete by Steeleye Span from 1973, here from 2008 but almost a copy of their original version:


Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: 40hz on November 11, 2013, 02:28 PM
I was thinking something more along the lines of Talitha Mackenzie's  :-* Fair Shoulders - or Fionnaghuala if you speak Gaelic. (I don't!)



Even if it's not, Talitha is well worth a listen. :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 11, 2013, 03:19 PM
I am wondering if the song could have been Irish: Gaudete by Steeleye Span from 1973, here from 2008 but almost a copy of their original version:


Nice song, but not that one.  Thanks for the find.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 11, 2013, 03:20 PM
I was thinking something more along the lines of Talitha Mackenzie's  :-* Fair Shoulders - or Fionnaghuala if you speak Gaelic. (I don't!)

Even if it's not, Talitha is well worth a listen. :Thmbsup:

Not that one either, but nice to discover it.  The one I was looking for was less "rythmy".
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: tomos on November 11, 2013, 03:53 PM
I am wondering if the song could have been Irish: Gaudete by Steeleye Span from 1973, here from 2008 but almost a copy of their original version:

another one I enjoyed Curt :up: - but definitely not Irish -
Latin lyrics, with a melody of unknown (possibly Skandinavian) origin -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudete
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: tomos on November 11, 2013, 04:02 PM
I was thinking something more along the lines of Talitha Mackenzie's  :-* Fair Shoulders - or Fionnaghuala if you speak Gaelic. (I don't!)

*not* wanting to go off-topic :-[
Spoiler
enjoyed that :up: - the version I knew growing up was from the Bothy Band - from the album with the wonderful name "Old Hag you have killed me" ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmLlY3Z96Y

Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on November 11, 2013, 05:50 PM
I am wondering if the song could have been Irish: Gaudete ...
... definitely not Irish - Latin lyrics, with a melody of unknown (possibly Skandinavian) origin - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudete

-thanks a lot for this interesting information, Tom. Because I right away didn't understand what they were saying, I never bothered to actually listen to the lyrics.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: app103 on November 11, 2013, 09:08 PM
If anybody here would know who that is, it probably would be app103. She's the only person I know who is even more into fringe and obscure musicians, instruments, and idioms than I am. ;D

How about it April? You're our resident whiz for this sort of thing. :)

Unfortunately, I can't help with this one. Not really an expert in foreign language (non-English) music.

Only one artist comes to mind when referring to songs in a made up language, and that would be Adiemus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiemus), but they didn't come into existence till the 90's...and they really couldn't be considered pop, any way. (new age)

Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 12, 2013, 03:24 AM
If anybody here would know who that is, it probably would be app103. She's the only person I know who is even more into fringe and obscure musicians, instruments, and idioms than I am. ;D

How about it April? You're our resident whiz for this sort of thing. :)

Unfortunately, I can't help with this one. Not really an expert in foreign language (non-English) music.

Only one artist comes to mind when referring to songs in a made up language, and that would be Adiemus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiemus), but they didn't come into existence till the 90's...and they really couldn't be considered pop, any way. (new age)


Thanks, but definitely not that one, the singer is alone, and has a child-like voice.  I have a little hope to identify this song by asking a friend of my sisters that spent some time in UK.  But in any cases, keep sending suggestions and many thanks for all those already received.  If I could just remember the melody, this would help a lot, but for the moment it's gone.  Hypnosis  maybe ?

I have a similar experience with Köln Recital by Keith Jarett.  At that time, when one of my sisters brought back home this record and played it, I was mesmerized by this strange music.  Many years later, I came across a CD transcription of that legendary concert, and when I listened to it again after all those years, I couldn't recognize it, only the strangeness of the music was familiar.  I guess it would be the same here.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Edvard on November 13, 2013, 02:30 AM
I think I have an inkling of what you're looking for, but I heard it a long time ago in the company of some very interesting individuals whose whereabouts I no longer know.

You mentioned french; perhaps a female singer covering Plastic Bertrand's "Ça Plane Pour Moi"? (the lyrics apparently make no sense, even in the original french).



As an aside, I did find something interesting in my searches:



Prisencolinensinainciusolw
The song was produced with the purpose of exposing Italian pop artists and musicians who were deceiving the public, pretending to speak/understand English lyrics and plagiarizing American and English songs, so this was a satirical parody to underscore the fact that those artists and musicians were not fluent in any form of English at all, and the Italian public would accept and popularize any song sounding like English, whether or not it was accurate.

Or maybe it could be one of these?:
http://www.who-sang-that-song.com/nonsense-word-song-titles.html
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Edvard on November 13, 2013, 02:42 AM
Not the '70s, but the gestalt bears a resemblance:

Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: tomos on November 13, 2013, 04:54 AM
[Plastic Bertrand - Ca Plane Pour Moi]

really enjoyed hearing that again :up:
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on November 13, 2013, 10:38 AM
After The Gold Rush by Prelude 1974





Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 13, 2013, 01:09 PM
I think I have an inkling of what you're looking for, but I heard it a long time ago in the company of some very interesting individuals whose whereabouts I no longer know.

You mentioned french; perhaps a female singer covering Plastic Bertrand's "Ça Plane Pour Moi"? (the lyrics apparently make no sense, even in the original french).

As an aside, I did find something interesting in my searches:

Prisencolinensinainciusolw
The song was produced with the purpose of exposing Italian pop artists and musicians who were deceiving the public, pretending to speak/understand English lyrics and plagiarizing American and English songs, so this was a satirical parody to underscore the fact that those artists and musicians were not fluent in any form of English at all, and the Italian public would accept and popularize any song sounding like English, whether or not it was accurate.

Or maybe it could be one of these?:
http://www.who-sang-that-song.com/nonsense-word-song-titles.html


Thanks.  It was none of them but I'll definitely have a look to the website you mention.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 13, 2013, 01:11 PM
Not the '70s, but the gestalt bears a resemblance:

I happen to have this album. I think one of the tracks was used by Newtek, a US company that made the "Video Toaster" for Amiga a while back.  And sorry, it's not part of this album.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on November 13, 2013, 01:13 PM
After The Gold Rush by Prelude 1974


Thanks for the suggestion and no alas, not that one.  The singer was alone and younger. AFAIR.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on December 22, 2013, 10:14 AM
Hi all,

A friend of mine, actually a friend of my sisters, was able to recall the melody, but not the title neither the singer.  She thinks however she might be Finnish, so much for a non existing language...

Here is the public link to this tune :
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14809726/Tune_Nov2013.mp3

If this inspires anyone...

Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on December 22, 2013, 05:02 PM
sorry, I couldn't help it

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Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on December 22, 2013, 05:06 PM
sorry, I couldn't help it
 (see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=36513.msg344988#msg344988))
Nice !
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: mouser on December 22, 2013, 07:52 PM
She thinks however she might be Finnish, so much for a non existing language...

wait.. you mean the Finnish language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language) is a real thing?  I thought it was a made up language like Klingon..  :huh:
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Target on December 22, 2013, 08:45 PM
wait.. you mean the Finnish language is a real thing?  I thought it was a made up language like Klingon..  :huh:

so you thought it sounded bjorked?
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on December 23, 2013, 04:43 AM
wait.. you mean the Finnish language is a real thing?  I thought it was a made up language like Klingon..  :huh:

so you thought it sounded bjorked?

Yeah, all resistance to this tune is futile/useless !
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on December 23, 2013, 04:44 AM
wait.. you mean the Finnish language is a real thing?  I thought it was a made up language like Klingon..  :huh:

so you thought it sounded bjorked?

BTW Bjork is from Iceland, I don't know if icelandish and finnish are related.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on December 23, 2013, 04:48 AM
She thinks however she might be Finnish, so much for a non existing language...

wait.. you mean the Finnish language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language) is a real thing?  I thought it was a made up language like Klingon..  :huh:

That's just a wild guess, from her.  But since she teaches linguistics in La Sorbonne in Paris, I guess this might be a clue.  In the seventies I has never heard of finnish before, so there was no way I could dinstinguish it from a made up language.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: tomos on December 23, 2013, 08:42 AM
She thinks however she might be Finnish, so much for a non existing language...

wait.. you mean the Finnish language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language) is a real thing?  I thought it was a made up language like Klingon..  :huh:

I thought it was a language invented on the Muppets.
But on searching, I discovered that was Sweedish :D

Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Gwen7 on December 23, 2013, 11:59 AM
She thinks however she might be Finnish, so much for a non existing language...

wait.. you mean the Finnish language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language) is a real thing?  I thought it was a made up language like Klingon..  :huh:

lol! you're joking. i hope.

fyi: Tolkien modeled his elvish language (called: quenyan) on the finnish language. if you go look on youtube for readings from the Kalevala (finland's national epic) you can hear what it sounds like. it's a pretty language. Tolkein also borrowed from the Kalevala for his own stories. :-)
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Edvard on December 27, 2013, 01:56 PM
Relevant:



Instant happiness  :Thmbsup:
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on July 26, 2014, 07:06 AM
Eureka : it is Ekkoleg by Grethe Agatz,
http://www.watzatsong.com/fr/found/Grethe%20Agatz-BO%20Viva%20la%20muerte%20(Ekkoleg)-63781.html

I heard it by chance in a TV movie broadcasted a few days ago and it was mentioned at the end of the credits.

Thanks to all who helped !
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: TaoPhoenix on July 26, 2014, 09:25 AM

That other link appears to have been taken down, but here is a YouTube link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfDr0g2twB0

And it's in Danish.

Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on July 26, 2014, 10:53 AM
That other link appears to have been taken down, but here is a YouTube link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfDr0g2twB0

And it's in Danish.


Thanks for the fixed link.  And it's funny, I spent 9 months in Denmark but that was 15 years later...  And even when I listen to this tune now, I barely recognize Danish.  No wonder it was so hard to identify it.  BTW, the website pointed by my link seems interesting in case of another mystery tune...
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on March 01, 2015, 07:51 AM
the French original from 1970: "C'est pour mon papa et moi"

http://www.bide-et-musique.com/song/5445.html

Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on March 01, 2015, 08:26 AM
the French original from 1970: "C'est pour mon papa et moi"

http://www.bide-et-musique.com/song/5445.html



Thanks for this find !  Let's say Michel Jonasz, co-writer, has already been much more inspired...  May I ask how you came to this page ?  Anyway, thanks a lot !
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: Curt on March 06, 2015, 07:44 AM
^ No mystery: I didn't like the Danish version, so I followed some of the links from watzatsong.
Title: Re: Looking for a seventies music title...
Post by: MerleOne on March 06, 2015, 06:07 PM
Thanks.  BTW, "bide" in French is the slang word for "belly" but also means "total failure", it applies mainly to music and movies...