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Main Area and Open Discussion => Living Room => Topic started by: Renegade on June 01, 2008, 12:57 AM
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This is VERY off-topic for software, but I'm curious...
How many people here have heard of or tried "drinking vinegar?"
It's exactly that -- vinegar that's meant for drinking. Comes in different flavors, and it's absolutely FANTASTIC!
Think of "drinking yoghurt," but for vinegar. (Drinking yoghurt is available in North America and Europe, right?)
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I think this trend started in Japan a couple of years back (like many other weird stuff). Heard about fruit flavoured vinegar beverages but have'nt tried one yet.
Drinking yoghurt is available in North America and Europe, right?
and in Asia, the Middle-East...
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Drinking yoghurt is a traditional drink in Turkey, Iran, Iraq and some other mideast countries.
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Heard of it, never tried it.
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I'd like to see the distinction between those who have only heard of it and those who have actually tried it in the poll.
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I'd like to see the distinction between those who have only heard of it and those who have actually tried it in the poll.
-Deozaan
I am first :D... I answered no, but if Apple Cider falls in this category... then it would be a big YES :drinksmiley:.
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We have drinking yoghurt in .dk, but never heard of drinking vinegar - and it sounds like a really bad idea to me. Vinegar is a biiiit to acidic for your whole system, generally, and which decent properties does it have?
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f0dder, no its not bad, if you research the question, you will find it's not bad to drink it.. (some thing I done when I was worried if it was bad to drink as much vinegar as I did.. lol)
I love vinegar, I can eat any food with it, and yes, I usually drink a few mouth fulls with my meals :D
(not to mention sauce, sauce and vinegar, I don't think I would eat as much with out them.. )
edit: I drink regular vinegar.. this vinegar made especially for drinking, never tried that tho.. I'm happy with my V, I don't drink drink it, but with meals I have a substantial amount :P
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never tried it, but IMHO normal vinegar is disgusting on its own
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Well, my father once had a bottle of wine that tasted like vinegar, apparently he left it in the barrel for too long. And still he claimed it was great :D
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I've heard of it only for an alternative medical treatment for, if memory serves me correctly(don't trust my memory as I don't ;)), I believe kidney stones.
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Well, my father once had a bottle of wine that tasted like vinegar, apparently he left it in the barrel for too long. And still he claimed it was great :D
-Lashiec
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Vinegar:
apparently (from what I've read & I'm not quoting/digging up sources :P) cider vinegar is the good one
It's the only vinegar that actually stimulates digestion/digestive juices - all other vinegars actually inhibit digestion.
Apparently it's good for lots of other things - but I couldnt for the life of me tell you what but, if I'm making a salad dressing that's always the first ingredient
I misread the the poll as simply drinking vinegar (as opposed to "drinking vinegar?")
Never heard of that (the "drinking vinegar?"), but then never thought I'd see "green tea" soft drinks in the corner shop either...
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We have quite a few variants of drinking yoghurt in India & people are really fond of it, I personally find it disgusting.
Drinking vinegar I've never heard of... can't be good for the body, can it?
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I've seen this thread and even have heard some discussions in IRC about this topic over the past couple days.
One thing I find very curious is that most of us here seem to be absolutely disgusted by the idea of drinking vinegar, with many of us saying it can't be good for the body. Yet how many of us don't think twice about drinking alcohol? It's a product known for liver damage, addiction, and other undesirable side effects, yet I would venture to guess that most people in this thread drink alcoholic beverages at least a couple of times a week.
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Excellent point, Deozaan. I only drink on occasions but yeah, it's something one never gives a second thought to. Maybe we're conditioned to think drinking booze is OK, or even 'cool'. Incidentally advertising liquor is illegal here, so some companies have started manufacturing water & apple juice and promoting their main product with wink-wink ads for apple juice. ;D
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I'd like to see the distinction between those who have only heard of it and those who have actually tried it in the poll.
-Deozaan
I am first :D...
-PhilB66
Not quite. Look above Deozaan's post. :P ;D
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Deozaan, - alcohol is actually good for your digestion too!!
(you can tell digestion is a theme for me :D)
Although I remember reading a claim somewhere that the combination of fatty meats & alcohol causes a particularly high rate of liver damage (cirrhosis)
Also supposed to be good for the heart - in moderation naturally
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It's supposed to be very good for you.
For a fun read on the topic (kind of), check out Aesop and his little escapades with his master. (He feeds people all pickled things and gets people sick.)
It SOUNDS bizarre, but honestly, it's some of the best stuff you'll ever try. Think "Uber-Awesome Kool-Aid!"
I've been drinking it for a long time, but never actually read any of the English on the bottles. A couple weeks ago I read the English, "Drinking Vinegar", and while I knew what it was, it just all of a sudden seemed very strange to actually read it in English. (Korean is kind of like that... What sounds normal in Korean makes no sense at all in English.)
So, anyone that's tried it, how did you like it? (I'm going to go have another glass now! :) )
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For all of you who were participating in the contest to choose which day Renegade would truly lose his mind, please check your entry cards. The one closest to June 1st has won. To claim your prize*, if you believe you are the winner, please send your winning card to:
Renegade Mental Breakdown Contest
P.O. Box 32423523
Rural Route GTD
Korea
*prize money will be awarded in the form of vinegar and clam juice.
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if you believe you are the winner, please send your winning card to
-mouser
I can't right now, I'm too busy bottling my fish and chips ;)
Renegade, just how did you get turned on to drinking this in the first place?
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For all of you who were participating in the contest to choose which day Renegade would truly lose his mind, please check your entry cards. The one closest to June 1st has won. To claim your prize*, if you believe you are the winner, please send your winning card to:
Renegade Mental Breakdown Contest
P.O. Box 32423523
Rural Route GTD
Korea
*prize money will be awarded in the form of vinegar and clam juice.
-mouser
The correct address is:
Renegade Mental Breakdown Contest
P.O. Box 5150
Rural Route GDT
Korea
Mouser, don't you know your Van Halen? (5150 is the California code for the criminally insane. :) ) And it's "Guitar & Drum Trainer." Not "Guitar Trainer & Drums!" ;) You're confusing me with a self-help guru, that no self-respecting criminally insane musical wacko would ever be caught dead impersonating! (Unless it were to do something both criminal and insane!)
@cranioscopical
I don't remember exactly. It was a few years ago. It was new in the store and I'm a complete drinking fanatic. If I could drink all my meals I would. I LOVE to drink. I'll try damn near anything that's liquid. (That's "near" for those with smarty pants comments! ;) )
Anyways, like I mentioned before, I just recently read the English (I can read Korean) and noticed just how bizarre it looks. As I don't spend much time outside of Korea and Asia, I was curious as to if others around the world had heard of it or tried it.
But really, it is THAT good. It sounds completely wacked and totally insane, but it really does taste amazingly good! My friend's uncle is nuts for it and I can't blame him.
And yes, when I get to places in South East Asia, one of my favorite things is to get into the corner stores and grocery stores and buy drinks! And fresh fruit! Love it!
I've had some drinks that I don't care for like "black jelly drink" and some others, but it's always worth a try. (I like grass jelly drink, just not the "black" version.)
For those that have never been to SE Asia... It just rocks! It's a MUST do for everyone at least once in their lives.
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grass jelly drink-Renegade
Learn something every day; I must admit I'd never heard of that. I'll have to find some and try it.
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Apple cider vinegar is actually good for some cleaning your dietary track
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grass jelly drink-Renegade
Learn something every day; I must admit I'd never heard of that. I'll have to find some and try it.
-cranioscopical
In HK, you get it for desert with creamy milk.
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Check out Crazy Asian Drinks (http://www.noapologiespress.com/presents/asiandrink/)
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grass jelly drink-Renegade
Learn something every day; I must admit I'd never heard of that. I'll have to find some and try it.
-cranioscopical
In HK, you get it for desert with creamy milk.
(see attachment in previous post (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=13513.msg115105#msg115105))
-PhilB66
The stuff in that pic is the black stuff... Not too fond of it. The regular green grass jelly stuff is better. Well, I like it better. It's watery though. Not milky.
Oh, and for those that like to DRINK ( ;) ), try pomegranate drinking vinegar with tequila and Cointreau -- a Vinegarita! Marvelous! Just sucking back some right now!
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As for that "Crazy Asian Drinks" site... What a complete waste! They're a bunch of (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif)ing lame (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif)ed (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif)heads with no (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif)ing clue about anything other than their own (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif)-(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif)ed (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif)-(https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif) tiny world of trailer parks and budwiser. (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/esmileys/gen3/1Small/cenzor.gif) them. While there certainly are some interesting things out there, they have nothing useful to say.
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One thing I find very curious is that most of us here seem to be absolutely disgusted by the idea of drinking vinegar, with many of us saying it can't be good for the body. Yet how many of us don't think twice about drinking alcohol? It's a product known for liver damage, addiction, and other undesirable side effects, yet I would venture to guess that most people in this thread drink alcoholic beverages at least a couple of times a week.
-Deozaan
I don't know how good it will be for the body, but I tell you it would be absolutely disgusting for your tongue and your sense of taste, I know that first hand when I add too much vinegar to my green salads, yuck, I have a bad taste during all day.
Offtopic: It's better to add more oil and less vinegar, and if you can, use balsamic vinegar, which is absolutely delicious (compared to other kinds of vinegar, that is :P)
Although I remember reading a claim somewhere that the combination of fatty meats & alcohol causes a particularly high rate of liver damage (cirrhosis)
Also supposed to be good for the heart - in moderation naturally
-tomos
Don't know about cirrhosis, but too much wine with meals is bad for your weight. And yes, one or two glasses of red wine is good for heart, at least that's what doctors say now, they could change opinion tomorrow :D, and it's due to the presence of tannins in grapes. Personally, I prefer chocolate, it has the same effect ;D
Oh, and for those that like to DRINK ( ;) ), try pomegranate drinking vinegar with tequila and Cointreau -- a Vinegarita! Marvelous! Just sucking back some right now!
-Renegade
Vinegar, tequila AND Cointreau >_<
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Apple Cider vinegar is actually one of the healthiest things you can get. I used to shot it as a kid, and still do it every now and then. Try peppermint herbal tea with 3 sugars and a dash of vinegar......
AC Vinegar has many medicinal uses, most of which I can't remember, it is, however, a strong aphrodisiac and can be used to bring cows into heat. A few tablespoons in their food should do it, also increases lactation.
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I think people are missing the difference in vinegars here. From what I understand, drinking vinegar as Renegade is talking about is a mild flavored drink that is not far from wine and may even be made by letting wine "go bad" (never researched it, though it certainly would make sense).
The vinegars other people think of is typically distilled white vinegar or balsamic vinegar, neither of which is in the same category. I get the feeling few people actually know how many different types of vinegars there are out there and how different they are. Like wines ranging from sweet to dry, red, white, rose, flavored, etc.; vinegars come in MANY different ranges for different purposes. While I agree that distilled white vinegar would be absolutely horrible to drink strait (in my opinion); I can certainly imagine much milder vinegars that are tons healthier than colas and other soda pops and just as tasty.
All this from someone who has never tried it :P
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steeladept: I was definitely thinking about the "regular" kind of vinegar (white or balsamic doesn't matter too much wrt. drinking it straight ;)), and read the post table as "drinking{verb} vinegar", not "drinking{qualifier} vinegar".
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Hello Everyone!
I couldn't resist the subject on drinking vinegar!
I am your man, the vinegarman, the connoisseur of drinking vinegar, I have tried many Japanese, and Taiwanese drinks, before, I started my research on one brand! You may think why I chose, the brand, well to be honest it offered the most beneficial health benefits.
Many japanese Vinegars claim to be the best and charge a premium price, although it is actually a myth, the best quality vinegar of all, is the Balsamic vinegars, from where they originate, however, you cannot drink them, they are purely for foods, kitchens, ect!
My testing on the brand over a 9 month period, was for specific sports, and athletic interest, I have been a fanatic athlete in over 40 years, and knowing my weightloss capabilities, when training, I could apply, this knowledge for testing of vinegar....
No vinegar, i can lose half kg a week when running...drinking vinegar and doing the same run, I can lose 1kg per week....
Drink vinegar and no run, no significant loss over 8 weeks! The myth of drink vinegar and lose weight is busted, however I proved, it does, improve the metabolic cycle, once the metabolism is kick started. So yes you can lose more weight by drink vinegar, because it does optimize the metabolic pathways, and is relevant for ATP production, if fatigued, because of all the acids in the drinking vinegar.... Like i say not all vinegars. The Japanese vinegars appear to be less superior, than the brand i tested, because they mix the fruit juice into the vinegar after the vinegar fermentation process is finished.
The brand I chose, ferments the fresh fruit juice at the beginning of the process, the base ingredient is glutinous brown rice, which contains 18 amino acids, and all the krebs cycle acids too. So obviously, you are getting a 5 star rated fuel, that produces ATP, so when fatigue is felt, it's because ATP is depleted, drinking vinegar will provide the right mixture of acids, for synthesis. Its highly refreshing and energy giving, not only that, my monthly blood tests, revealed a consistent reduction in cholesterol and blood sugar.
Drinking vinegar takes the strain off the liver, by attacking carbs, that are consumed, reducing blood sugar spikes, it will give a feeling of satiety, and release the fuel, glucose slowly into the blood, so your endurance is increased significantly.
I drink a liter a day when not training and probably 2 liters on training days. The vinegars I chose are specially brewed for drinking by agricultural chemists, they have used biotech to develop the mother vinegar, to take the vinegar taste away, so what you have is a fantastic beverage of fermented fruits and brown rice....rice also being a more mellow taste, than western vinegars, with age, it becomes even more mellow.
For more information, you should really contact me at www.drinkingvinegar.com and my blog on vinegars...I will be adding more vinegars soon, but basically, specially brewed vinegars are for health,, to get a real good one, is difficult, without knowledge, of how it should be brewed.
Apple cider vinegar for example is very poor when compared, because their is no amino acids at all, in apple cider vinegar, and the fruit compared to plum, and other chosen fruits, apple is rated the worst for health benefits...like i say, the industry is booming because of bio-tech and chinese traditional medicine, fruits are chosen for there specific health benefits. Vinegar balances the body pH value to help maintain health and will reduce the free radicals, that cause cancers, there is plenty of research on the internet with facts, but its very important to know the acids the vinegar produces. Vinegar is not acetic acid, by the way, Vinegar is a product of acetic acid and will dilute, when consumed, acting as a neutraliser of acid, and alkaline. because the vinegars have a higher pH than stomach acid, and a lower one than alkaline.
So it balances the body, when the wrong diet is eaten.
Hope you find this post informative. www.drinkingvinegar.com
It's true to say many laymen haven't a clue about vinegars and are completely ignorant and stupid, to think vinegar for foods is the same as drinking vinegars, there are 3 kinds of vinegars, that can be thought of, and that is brewed vinegar, the best, mixed vinegar, synthetic and brewed and lastly synthetic vinegar, which is the worst....distilled vinegar doesn't have any health benefits at all, that is why it is distilled.
All vinegars are made in the same way wine is made, it is fermented until all the alcohol is gone, the only difference with health is, that fresh fruit juice must be fermented to get the increase in bio organic activity of bacteria, to be of any good. Drinking health vinegars can be also very expensive, the process takes much longer than any normal beverage, the plus, is that they do not go flat or lose taste so quickly, and will be the same after a year or 2. They are preservatives, also for the body, and reduce ageing too! leave your email address for more info on the website.
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@drinkingwhatever
What's your relation to Chung Hwa? and 121tw.com?
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VINEGAR DRINKS CATCHING ON (http://web-japan.org/trends/lifestyle/lif050125.html) (I swear it wasn't me pressing the Caps Lock. I just did a simple copy paste operation)
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Question: What's your relation to Chung Hwa? and 121tw.com?
what has that got to do with drinkingvinegar, It was pretty obvious to see, that you guys don't have a clue of drinking vinegar, and I do, simply because i drink it everyday, and have done the research on vinegar... I am not suggesting any form of brand, i have simply pointed you all in the right direction about chosing vinegars for drinking, and the reasons why....I personally couldn't careless about brand names....what i do care about is being ripped off financially by all the con artists, that are attempting to sell vinegar drinks....
The biggest con of all, is the so called fresh fruit stalls...that actually show fresh fruit, but only grind half an apple or a portion of fruit, and fill it up with ice and water, calling it 100% natural....they don't tell you, they added 20ml of syrup in, which gives it the tastes and sugars, and a vinegar drink, would be a quick squirt of rice vinegar, into the juice, and charge you a premium price with no real health benefits, from fermentation.
Not only that, you guys are probably on the other side of the world, scratching your heads, wondering what the hell drinking vinegar is all about, clueless, like the guy, that believes the vinegar taste on the tongue, would be enough to make him puke! Just look on youtube at all the idiots, drinking vinegar because they have heard of benefits of health, and are dumb enough to drink food vinegars with higher acetic acid content, which can actually burn the throat!
Why should you all care what my relationship is to any of those companies? This is about information and facts...you don't believe me, why don't you all look up, metabolism on wikipedia and see the listed acids that open up the pathways of the metabolism, there are 10! And if you check the 18 amino acids on wikipedia, you will also gain some knowledge of health benefits of each one of them....all you have to do then is find a vinegar, that meets the requirements, and is a beverage too, so you can enjoy the refreshing tangy taste that has been around for hundreds of years.
Also look up red yeast rice on wikipedia, which is also used for vinegar, and you will see, it is a listed drug in the USA, because the US stole the patents for stints, from traditional chinese medicine recipes, for the reduction of cholesterol. Facts facts and more facts! yes i do understand and speak chinese and have a interest in traditional chinese medicine too.
Specially brewed vinegars for health can be used for mixing cocktails, add in yoghurt or milk, even make jellies with them, or topping on ice cream....surprising what you can learn, if you have an interest, isn't it!
I will say I do not have a direct link to any of the companies, and I do not work for them at all, but i am actually collecting data, for a drinking vinegar book, which maybe published at the end of the year, but mostly to do with health and energy for sport, the other major factor is, that my passion of vinegar drinking, will lead to my own brand label within another year, after all, i have done the research and know, what the people want, for their money, and that is value and benefits.
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Take a look at the ingredients of gatorade and any other beverage on the market and check for E211 preservative also known as sodium benzoate and read this link, you can read about the crap that your consuming:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/caution-some-soft-drinks-may-seriously-harm-your-health-450593.html
I have no idea where you guys are, but drinking vinegars are not really available in the west yet! But they will be eventually. Happy healthy lifestyle! The vinegarman
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Why was my post deleted?
-drinkingvinegar
https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=13513.msg115767#msg115767
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Why was my post deleted?
-drinkingvinegar
https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=13513.msg115767#msg115767
-scancode
Thanks, I found it eventually, it takes a little time finding the way around the forum!
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Thanks, I found it eventually, it takes a little time finding the way around the forum!
-drinkingvinegar
Heh... Welcome on board, and have a nice stay on our forums...
Why don't you post on this thread (https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=124.0) and let us know a bit more about yourself?
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(Drinking yoghurt is available in North America and Europe, right?)
-Renegade
Yup. I can buy Yakult at Real Canadian Superstore...
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in america they sell fruit flavored "kefir" which is very similar to drinking yoghurt and is delicious.
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what has that got to do with drinkingvinegar
1. Drinking vinegar is not one word but two or is that just a strategy to promote your page rank mr. 'online branding specialist'?
2. There's absolutely no need to get defensive/aggressive.
It was pretty obvious to see, that you guys don't have a clue of drinking vinegar, and I do, simply because i drink it everyday, and have done the research on vinegar... I am not suggesting any form of brand, i have simply pointed you all in the right direction about chosing vinegars for drinking, and the reasons why....I personally couldn't careless about brand names
Then why linking to drinkingvinegar.com Chung Hwa Food Industries? I mean, nothing wrong here, but you could have just enlighten us, share your knowledge, etc. I do appreciate the information shared, but the Website you were linking to is a commercial endeavour, all about the promotion of a single brand. Your business is about 'import and distribution, sole agent for Singapore for health vinegar'. When you provide a link to a Website you should state your affiliation! That's DC policy.
Why should you all care what my relationship is to any of those companies? This is about information and facts...I will say I do not have a direct link to any of the companies, and I do not work for them at all
Listen, I don't care about your affiliations just don't lie about them. 121tw is registered to you too.
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The vinegarman
Will the real vinegarman (http://www.vinegarman.com/) please stand up?
Oh, one more thing, should we drink vinegar or should we not?
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Will the real vinegarman (http://www.vinegarman.com/) please stand up?
-PhilB66
The plot thickens ... - from that site
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"the inhabitants here are quite friendly"
we know better - Renegade is friendly :D
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Just for the record: unless science was, like, totally wrong back when I had biology class, vinegar does boost your metabolism (probably part of why some diets suggest frying your food in vinegar instead of oil/whatever).
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probably part of why some diets suggest frying your food in vinegar instead of oil/whatever
-f0dder
that's called boiling :) mind you they used to "boil" people in oil in the good old days, so why not fry them in vinegar :D
Sounds like a scary taste sensation to me though (but then I have no need to increase my metabolism - the opposite in fact...)
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I'm not a big apple cider vinegar user but i have confidence in the people at Bragg's
http://www.bragg.com/FAQ/faq_applecider.html#acv_faq4
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we know better - Renegade is friendly :D
-tomos
But only until somebody tries to do something nasty to me like bite my nose. Then I become very sour and nasty! ;)
No vinegar, i can lose half kg a week when running...drinking vinegar and doing the same run, I can lose 1kg per week....
I'll be reading your blog, and drinking a $20 bottle of balsamic a week! (Seriously, I'm really interested as I really need to lose a few myself!)
Oh, and mouser... NYAH! :P See! I'm not insane! (Or at least I'm not alone in my insanity... ;) )
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Oh, and mouser... NYAH! :P See! I'm not insane! (Or at least I'm not alone in my insanity... ;) )
-Renegade
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"and drinking a $20 bottle of balsamic a week!"
go on! go for something more exotic - those rice vinegars sound intriguing - to me at any rate :)
Finally got to google "drinking vinegar" - mostly sites about cider vinegar, but here's an intriguing one from the first page
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Then I read up on vinegar cause I realised I didnt know what distinguished it from alcohol -
afraid I'm still not sure apart from that with vinegar they start the process with ethanol which basically is a purified vodka by the sounds of it, and then the fact it has a certain PH & a certain acidity (think they the same thing actually..)
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Mostly vinegar is left in barrels for oxidation more time than regular wine (ya know, because alcohol covers a great deal of beverages, not all of them valid for making vinegar out of it, I think, although I'd kill to see beer-based vinegar ;D), for taking as an example one drink I'm familiar with.
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I'd kill to see beer-based vinegar ;D-Lashiec
http://www.dcimports.com/babeervinegar.html
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Cool! Let's see who am I going to kill now...
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Cool! Let's see who am I going to kill now...
-Lashiec
/me points at mouser.
Btw... saw that link? DCimports :tellme:
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Hehehe, yeah, maybe a side business of mouser ;D
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I'll say one thing for the Renegade/drinking-vinegar thread, in terms
of length it looks as if it could give SQL-Notes some competition!
:)
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I'll say one thing for the Renegade/drinking-vinegar thread, in terms
of length it looks as if it could give SQL-Notes some competition!
-cranioscopical
Don't tease me, I could re-activate it... 37 pages is rather odd, 40 sounds like a nice round number ;)
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I'll say one thing for the Renegade/drinking-vinegar thread, in terms
of length it looks as if it could give SQL-Notes some competition!
:)
-cranioscopical
That's just sour grapes...
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r odd, 40 sounds like a nice round
-PPLandry
42 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_Life%2C_the_Universe%2C_and_Everything), you heretic! ;)
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That's just sour grapes...-Darwin
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42, you heretic!-f0dder
Time to throw in the towel?
Don't tease me...-PPLandry
Tease you? Quite the reverse!
Why, I'll not charge you a cent for the idea of distributing SQL-N
with a pre-installed drinking-vinegar grid.
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I think we can formulate a theory relating the length of a thread and the probability of a SQL Notes mention ;D
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That thread already exists:
https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=12774.0
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D'oh! And I posted on it :-[
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Been a while! Oh I see a couple of peeps. are not so happy! No lies, at all, of course they are my websites, any person with the idiots guide to the internet, could have found that out. It's my hobby....I have more than those websites too.
I'm actually retired, well semi, and yes i am a branding specialist, but at the moment, I'm gathering data on a book, and yes, at the moment there is only one brand of vinegar, but as you can also see, i try not to advertise it, for a reason!
I know things that nobody else knows, because my in depth research is spot on, I don't take any sides, i search vinegars of quality, with proven facts, and when i say proven, I mean independant bio-chemistry reports...There are far too many vinegar makers, conning people.
At the end of my data gathering I will probably write a book, mostly on health and wellness, for fitness, because that is my interest. Not only that, I wll be producing my own brand label too!
So once again, there was no lies told, I just don't see any real benefits, of informing anyone what i do in my spare time. I am an export consultant, so what.... I also don't have the time to be on here every day, although i can see, that many do need answers to questions...
And to put it so bluntly, I thought this forum had a little more logical thinking, than most others, but nope, afraid not! OK lets take the simple Apple cider Vinegar, hands up, who thinks amino acids comes from fruits! Mmmm well done. The process of fermentation of vinegar is a natural fermentation process, no brewers yeast, the mother vinegar kick starts the process.
The only thing to know about vinegars, is that a vinegar fermented with fruit, is better than a vinegar, with added fruit juice.
Sorghum is used as a base, to get the full benefits of the Amino acids, normally black rice or brown rice, both aged over time become mellow enough to drink in the vinegar state, but if fermented with fruit, the health benefits are increased. Apple cider doesn't have amino acids unless they have added sorghum rice grains.
So you have 18 aminos, plus the normal fermentation of the citric acid cycle, krebs cycle, with 8 acids or enzymes....no matter what vinegar, you will always have the basic krebs cycle acids, but not the aminos, there are of course many other micronutrients.
Balsamic is the most beneficial but like i said, you cannot drink and enjoy. a little on food is OK. Bio chemists are changing all this...
Brands for drinking, well if you look on youtube, they have had just about all the brands of vinegars they could find in the west, but not a drinking vinegar. And for the guy, that suggested drinking vinegar is two words, well full marks to him, I have a seven year old daughter that spotted that ;D.
So you think drinkingvinegar is a key word, for SEO what does that tell you, you are smart ;D, I'll bet my bottom $ 95% of the forum could figure that one out. But it's a shame you are chasing up the wrong tree, doctor watson, with egg on your face. Although I'll forgive you :D
Such an intelligent bunch on here, but you will never make a good businessman, if you think I was attempting to advertise, if you think i could survive on this forum, or any other forum, so all of a sudden, the intelligence level is signified with a halo, and a cabbage, not all of you of course! Just the pink panther, and he's just as funny :D
Have you any idea what it would cost to send vinegar in the post :o
Oh well. I'm off again, hang in there guys and don't work too hard, quite a few of you need to use your skills, on vinegar research, I think! 8)